trying to treat my ADHD'r son

January 18, 2007

didn't seem like milk is an allergy at all..

and i can't seem to get the pancake right.. so i buy them at the store... and

am switching over froma syrup to maybe something else to put on it..maybe the

syrup isn't helping in calming him in teh am..

as for chicken he loves chicken legs..but i can't seem to cook them right at

all..they either burn, taste nasty or never get done enuff..grr

he likes ready made oat meal but not the regualr hot oatmeal.. he loves his

eggs and he's not much on smoothie as a meal.. he loves it.. just own't take it

in place of a meal.. he acts like he's missing something..you know?

Ieneke van Houten <ienvan wrote:

Heather:< yes joined flylady..>

Good onya! Less chaos in the house

really helps. I was so lucky my mother

was BO (born organized).

<im in process of switching from frozen food

cooking to natural cooking..>

Smart woman! May I remind you of the

Saving Dinner service? It will make it so

much easier on you!

If he truly is allergic to milk, that will

still be too much, but he may not be.

Eggs are good!

Pancakes or waffles are frozen or from a

package, right?

Making pancakes or waffles from scratch can

be a bit of a challenge if you are all trying to

rush out the door in the morning....

How about toast?

Does he like smoothies? Hot cereal?

Would he be willing to try a regular chicken

breast or drumstick, instead of the pre-breaded

stuff? Likewise, would he eat regular fish?

a hamburger every now and then.. he does love his

bread and hamburgers and he gets mad when i don't

let him have the hamburger or cheese..>

There is nothing wrong with a beef pattie

made from good whole ground beef.

It really is not hard. Is he very picky?

January 18, 2007

oops lol my mistake..ur right im not doing the cook all night verison yet.. i

start next week need to clean out my backup refrigerator to make room lol of

course my freezer is stocked w/ the preservative junk

Ieneke van Houten <ienvan wrote: Heather Anderson wrote:

<yes thanks for info..tryed rescue rememdies to no effect..

we did biofeedback and 4000 dollars later to no effect...

we do the low sugar diet and no additives and so on to

no effect.. you see my frustration/>

Dear Heather,

So sorry, I didn't realize you had done all that

already! Did I get mixed up somewhere?

I thought you were the one describing

yourself as a " Microwave Mom " ?

So I pictured you as putting a ready-to-go

frozen something into the infernal machine.

All that ready to go stuff is LOADED with

junk. Even some of the stuff in health food

stores. See the interview with Dr Blaylock

on http://newstarget.com

Hey, I even checked the archives, to make

sure MY ADD didn't get in the way here,.

Yup, that was you. On December 29 you wrote:

<looks like ill have to check this book out..

my new homeo doc wants all sugars, milk and

processed stuff removed from his diet..

only im a micorwave mom so have no clue

as of what to cook.>

How long did you do them all for?

You say he is on no additives. Does that

mean you are cooking from scratch now?

The trouble with food-based treatments

is that it often takes a while.

You don't get results that fast. If you are

used to the instant result of, say, Ritalin,

you may think nothing is working.

SOME people notice an instant result when

they remove wheat for instance. But not

everyone.

Dr Phil Bate has created a CD that is helping

a lot of ADD kids, seems to work for a

fraction of the price of bio-feedback,

and you just plug it in while the kid sleeps,

so at least there is no stress about dragging

him into sessions etc.

Worth looking into. http://drbate.com

For the record: I make NO money off

this one.

The trouble with ADD symptoms is that

the ROOT cause for one may be different

from someone else. So you have to attack it

from a lot of angles.

If the kid is free of all additives and toxins

etc, but he has learning disabilities and they

are trying to teach him in a way that makes

no sense to him, he will still act out.

And likewise, if he has the best possible teacher

but his brain is full of poisons put there by

parasites and heavy metal poisoning, he

won't be able to take anything in anyway.

Do you get the picture?

You might also think and/and instead of either/or.

There may be a place for the ADD meds, in

combination with natural methods.

A child on medication needs good food and

a functioning digestive system even more.

And, last but not least: the poor kid has to

constantly put up with being the one in need

of fixing. Some Emotional Freedom Technique

can really help with the extra burden of that.

It really is easy once you see it done.

http://tinyurl.com/ygv7ur

This link goes to the page on ADD.

Ien in the Kootenays

***********************************************

" If the brain were so simple we could understand it,

we would be so simple that we couldn't " .~Lyall Watson

Our ADD family thrives on whole wild food

http://wholewildfoods.net

*********************************************

January 18, 2007

we are using zeolite since dec 27.. i guess it takes a while to week out ny

problems? im assuming zeolite is overall cleanse? if not do i need mroe

specific one? he is also on a probiotic.

Marguerite Wright <momsherbs wrote: Perhaps he could use a

good detox. I have a good colon

cleanse I could suggest. Feel free to contact me if

you are interested.

Marguerite

Certified Herbalist and Health Consultant

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January 18, 2007

, " M " <mariposa1111 wrote:

Where do I go to have " brain mapping done for my son? Thanks, Dottie

> as you can see there are a lot of cures for adhd and add, the best

> option is to start with a brain mapping of the patient and figure out

> what he/she needs. then you can work with a practitioner to build in

> the appropriate components. if you need referrals i know of a couple

> and can recommend. it's worth it in the beginning to do it right. best.

>

> , " Ieneke van Houten "

> <ienvan@> wrote:

> >

> > Heather Anderson wrote:

> > <yes thanks for info..tryed rescue rememdies to no effect..

> > we did biofeedback and 4000 dollars later to no effect...

> > we do the low sugar diet and no additives and so on to

> > no effect.. you see my frustration/>

> >

> > Dear Heather,

> > So sorry, I didn't realize you had done all that

> > already! Did I get mixed up somewhere?

> > I thought you were the one describing

> > yourself as a " Microwave Mom " ?

> >

> > So I pictured you as putting a ready-to-go

> > frozen something into the infernal machine.

> > All that ready to go stuff is LOADED with

> > junk. Even some of the stuff in health food

> > stores. See the interview with Dr Blaylock

> > on http://newstarget.com

> >

> > Hey, I even checked the archives, to make

> > sure MY ADD didn't get in the way here,.

> > Yup, that was you. On December 29 you wrote:

> > <looks like ill have to check this book out..

> > my new homeo doc wants all sugars, milk and

> > processed stuff removed from his diet..

> > only im a micorwave mom so have no clue

> > as of what to cook.>

> >

> > How long did you do them all for?

> > You say he is on no additives. Does that

> > mean you are cooking from scratch now?

> >

> > The trouble with food-based treatments

> > is that it often takes a while.

> > You don't get results that fast. If you are

> > used to the instant result of, say, Ritalin,

> > you may think nothing is working.

> >

> > SOME people notice an instant result when

> > they remove wheat for instance. But not

> > everyone.

> >

> > Dr Phil Bate has created a CD that is helping

> > a lot of ADD kids, seems to work for a

> > fraction of the price of bio-feedback,

> > and you just plug it in while the kid sleeps,

> > so at least there is no stress about dragging

> > him into sessions etc.

> > Worth looking into. http://drbate.com

> > For the record: I make NO money off

> > this one.

> >

> > The trouble with ADD symptoms is that

> > the ROOT cause for one may be different

> > from someone else. So you have to attack it

> > from a lot of angles.

> >

> > If the kid is free of all additives and toxins

> > etc, but he has learning disabilities and they

> > are trying to teach him in a way that makes

> > no sense to him, he will still act out.

> >

> > And likewise, if he has the best possible teacher

> > but his brain is full of poisons put there by

> > parasites and heavy metal poisoning, he

> > won't be able to take anything in anyway.

> >

> > Do you get the picture?

> > You might also think and/and instead of either/or.

> > There may be a place for the ADD meds, in

> > combination with natural methods.

> >

> > A child on medication needs good food and

> > a functioning digestive system even more.

> >

> > And, last but not least: the poor kid has to

> > constantly put up with being the one in need

> > of fixing. Some Emotional Freedom Technique

> > can really help with the extra burden of that.

> > It really is easy once you see it done.

> >

> > http://tinyurl.com/ygv7ur

> >

> > This link goes to the page on ADD.

> >

> > Ien in the Kootenays

> > ***********************************************

> > " If the brain were so simple we could understand it,

> > we would be so simple that we couldn't " .~Lyall Watson

> > Our ADD family thrives on whole wild food

> > http://wholewildfoods.net

> > *********************************************

> >

January 19, 2007

Time for a transition period, perhaps? He's used to the convenience

foods, which are designed to be addictive, and he needs to get used

to whole foods, which you can't do overnight. We did all this with

our daughter when she came up allergic to wheat (though our son is

the ADHD one, he will try anything, so it was easy to get him to

change over, especially when he realised how much better he felt

about life and himself with the change in diet). How old is your son?

Start with one favourite at a time, and make subtle changes, like

perhaps jam " syrup " on the pancakes. You simply heat his favourite

jam to syrup consistency, and drizzle on the pancakes.

Easy pancake recipe, and has similar consistency to wheat/gluten

flour pancakes:

Small recipe to begin with:

1/2 cup each corn flour (very finely ground) and brown rice flour

1/2 tsp salt

3 tsp aluminium-free baking powder

1 tsp raw sugar or sucanat (evaporated cane juice)

2 eggs

approx 1 cup milk (enough to make it just the right pancake batter

consistency)

You can double, triple, etc the recipe, and store in the fridge.

Both our children use them for sandwiches, snacks, etc, so I always

have some in the fridge.

Cheers

Andrea

NZ

On 18/01/2007, at 3:40 PM, heather anderson wrote:

> didn't seem like milk is an allergy at all..

>

> and i can't seem to get the pancake right.. so i buy them at the

> store... and am switching over froma syrup to maybe something else

> to put on it..maybe the syrup isn't helping in calming him in teh am..

>

> as for chicken he loves chicken legs..but i can't seem to cook them

> right at all..they either burn, taste nasty or never get done

> enuff..grr

>

> he likes ready made oat meal but not the regualr hot oatmeal.. he

> loves his eggs and he's not much on smoothie as a meal.. he loves

> it.. just own't take it in place of a meal.. he acts like he's

> missing something..you know?

January 19, 2007

We homeschool both our children. Son is 14.5 and daughter is 10.5.

I would never have called myself a patient person, but through my

children I have learned patience. It will come in time!

Andrea

NZ

On 18/01/2007, at 3:33 PM, heather anderson wrote:

> yea im leaning towards that end...seeming impossible any other

> way.. and i'm not the most patient soul so I was hoping to avoid it

> you knwoo/

>

> jmr1290 <jomarex wrote: Homeschooling might make

> things better. I have a " problem child " , and

> always thought about homeschooling. Figured I'd be too crabby and it

> would be worse, but when I finally did it, having more time to figure

> out how to deal with him has made everything better. Most school

> employees don't have the time, energy or inclination to deal with any

> problems that kids have, then the kids get away with all kinds of bad

> behavior, and think that's just the way it is.

>

> My son is still one hell of a handfull, but with my constant

> attention, and calling him on his behavior, things are no longer

> spiraling hopelessly out of control.

>

> good luck!!

> Joy

>

> , heather anderson

> <handerson4388 wrote:

> >

> > hmm thanks so much for the insight.. im thinking its gonna come down

> to me homeschooling only way to get around his behavior i guess in

> which case im dreading that...

> >

> > Barb <surrealthing55 wrote: HI, our oldest son

> struggled with mod-severe ADHD. Here's what we tried

> > that had some success:

> >

>

> Don't be flakey. Get Mail for Mobile and

> always stay connected to friends.

>

January 19, 2007

WOW, Andrea thanks for the great recipe (this is not my post -

however I do have a Gluten intolerant 12yr old).

There are also a lot of great recipes and info on Sue Dengates

website http://fedupwithfoodadditives.info/ she is one of my

favourite people. Sue and her husband have done extensive research on

food and behaviour in children.

Kind regards

Caroline

http://alwaysnaturallygreat.com

, Andrea Gauland

<dreaquince wrote:

>

> Time for a transition period, perhaps? He's used to the

convenience

> foods, which are designed to be addictive, and he needs to get

used

> to whole foods, which you can't do overnight. We did all this

with

> our daughter when she came up allergic to wheat (though our son is

> the ADHD one, he will try anything, so it was easy to get him to

> change over, especially when he realised how much better he felt

> about life and himself with the change in diet). How old is your

son?

>

> Start with one favourite at a time, and make subtle changes, like

> perhaps jam " syrup " on the pancakes. You simply heat his

favourite

> jam to syrup consistency, and drizzle on the pancakes.

>

> Easy pancake recipe, and has similar consistency to wheat/gluten

> flour pancakes:

>

> Small recipe to begin with:

> 1/2 cup each corn flour (very finely ground) and brown rice flour

> 1/2 tsp salt

> 3 tsp aluminium-free baking powder

> 1 tsp raw sugar or sucanat (evaporated cane juice)

>

> 2 eggs

> approx 1 cup milk (enough to make it just the right pancake batter

> consistency)

>

> You can double, triple, etc the recipe, and store in the fridge.

> Both our children use them for sandwiches, snacks, etc, so I

always

> have some in the fridge.

>

> Cheers

> Andrea

> NZ

>

> On 18/01/2007, at 3:40 PM, heather anderson wrote:

>

> > didn't seem like milk is an allergy at all..

> >

> > and i can't seem to get the pancake right.. so i buy them at the

> > store... and am switching over froma syrup to maybe something

else

> > to put on it..maybe the syrup isn't helping in calming him in teh

am..

> >

> > as for chicken he loves chicken legs..but i can't seem to cook

them

> > right at all..they either burn, taste nasty or never get done

> > enuff..grr

> >

> > he likes ready made oat meal but not the regualr hot oatmeal..

he

> > loves his eggs and he's not much on smoothie as a meal.. he

loves

> > it.. just own't take it in place of a meal.. he acts like he's

> > missing something..you know?

>

January 19, 2007

oooh never thought of turning the jam into liquid.. great idea...

not sure i understand you recipe though.. why the milk in the eggs?

Andrea Gauland <dreaquince wrote: