Iodine, Hypothyroidism, etc.

[Guest guest]

Hi Angel,I can special order it thru my local Rite Aide Pharmacy (and I live in a very small town!); you can also order it over the internet at :http://bloodrootblacksalve.com/lugols.htm

andhttp://www.amazon.com/Lugols-Iodine-2-Fluid-Oz/dp/B000I20HJYThere were many more places, too; I just googled " Lugol's Solution " .

Good Luck.TrishOn Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 8:38 PM, <toreadpeoplehealthinfo wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Trish, would you mind sharing these " several places " you mention?

 

Also, who is it that can special order it for you?

 

Thanks,

Angel

 

 

 

 

Re: Iodine, Hypothyroidism, etc.

Posted by: " Trish Kleinfelder " tkleinfelder astrotrissh

Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:01 pm (PDT)

Hi. I found Lugol's Solution in several places; and I can 'special order'it from my local drugstore (no prescription required). It's about $30 apint.trish

 

 

 

-- I would rather be ashes than dust! I would rather that my spark should burn out in a brilliant blaze than it should be stifled by dry rot. I would rather be a superb meteor,

every atom of me in magnificent glow, than a sleepy and permanent planet. The proper function of man is to live, not to exist. I shall not waste my days in trying to prolong them. I shall use my time. "

--Jack London, American Author

[Guest guest]

Hi Angel:

 

If you're still looking for Lugol's Solution, you can purchase it from

this website:

http://www.jcrows.com/iodine.html

 

You'll also find a lot of information about iodine on this site. My

Naturopath told me to get some to test my iodine level. She had me

rub some on my arm and see how long it took for the yellow to

disappear (how long it took for my body to absorb it.) Less than 6

hours would indicate a deficiency. Mine took 10 hours so I was fine.

A friend took 6 hours so the doc recommended she eat more seaweed.

Another friend took only 3 hours, so she needed a supplement.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Sincerely,

Patti

 

oleander soup , <toreadpeoplehealthinfo wrote:

>

> Thank you, Michael. I appreciate your help in finding someone locally.

>

> Regarding the iodine, I've asked at my local Walmart, Walgreens,

Rite-Aid, and Long's pharmacies but NONE of them neither carry

in-stock, nor can order ingestable iodine. They only have the iodine

tincture for external use. I pestered them each pretty intensely to

confirm and verify and re-check both their databases and call and get

this confirmed verbally from their " sources. " A couple of them said

I must have a prescription to get it, the others didn't say that. Do

you know - must one have a prescription from a doctor to get it?

>

> Angel

>

>

> Re: Iodine, Hypothyroidism, etc.

> Posted by: " Michael Goebel " goebelchx goebelchx

> Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:36 pm (PDT)

> I will ask some questions for you and try to find a bay area

practitioner.

>

> Iodine tincture should be available at a pharmacy. Ask the pharmacist.

>

> Dr. Goebel

>

[Guest guest]

Trish, thanks for sharing this website. I found lots of interesting

info on it,including the Iosol that I take. I have also recently

learned that you must take selenium also when you take iodine - they

work synergistically and one without the other is not good for the

thyroid. I don't know if this is new knowledge, but it was new to me.

Bettyoleander soup , " Trish Kleinfelder "

<tkleinfelder wrote:

>

> Hi Angel,

> I can special order it thru my local Rite Aide Pharmacy (and I

live in a

> very small town!); you can also order it over the internet at :

>

> http://bloodrootblacksalve.com/lugols.htm

>

> and

>

> http://www.amazon.com/Lugols-Iodine-2-Fluid-Oz/dp/B000I20HJY

>

> There were many more places, too; I just googled " Lugol's Solution " .

>

> Good Luck.

>

> Trish

>

> On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 8:38 PM, <toreadpeoplehealthinfo wrote:

>

> > Trish, would you mind sharing these " several places " you

mention?

> >

> > Also, who is it that can special order it for you?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Angel

> >

> >

> >

> > Re: Iodine, Hypothyroidism, etc.

> >

<oleander soup/message/3513;_ylc=X3oDMTJy

dGlndWhxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0MzQ4NDc5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MDgxNA

Rtc2dJZAMzNTEzBHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2bXNnBHN0aW1lAzEyMDg0NzU4OTg-> Posted

> > by: " Trish Kleinfelder " tkleinfelder

> > <tkleinfelder?Subject=+Re%3A%20Iodine%2C%20Hypothyroidism%2C%

20etc%2E>

> > astrotrissh <http://profiles./astrotrissh> Thu Apr 17,

2008

> > 2:01 pm (PDT) Hi. I found Lugol's Solution in several places; and

I can

> > 'special order'

> > it from my local drugstore (no prescription required). It's about

$30 a

> > pint.

> > trish

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> I would rather be ashes than dust! I would rather that my

> spark should burn out in a brilliant blaze than it should

> be stifled by dry rot. I would rather be a superb meteor,

> every atom of me in magnificent glow, than a sleepy and

> permanent planet. The proper function of man is to live,

> not to exist. I shall not waste my days in trying to

> prolong them. I shall use my time. "

> --Jack London, American Author

>

[Guest guest]

Wouldn't you know it....even the NIH has something on this: http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/selenium.asp

 

People with iodine deficiency may also benefit from selenium supplementation. Iodine deficiency is rare in the U.S., but is still common in developing countries where access to iodine is limited [28]. Researchers believe that selenium deficiency may worsen the effects of iodine deficiency on thyroid function, and that adequate selenium nutritional status may help protect against some of the neurological effects of iodine deficiency [6,7]. Researchers involved in the Supplementation en Vitamines et Mineraux AntioXydants (SU.VI.MAX) study in France, which was designed to assess the effect of vitamin and mineral supplements on chronic disease risk, evaluated the relationship between goiter and selenium in a subset of this research population. Their findings suggest that selenium supplements may be protective against goiter, which refers to enlargement of the thyroid gland [29].

However, I take odds with the statement that Iodine deficiency is "rare" in America. Intelligence is rare. Ethics are rare. But not iodine deficiency.

 

David

 

 

In a message dated 4/21/2008 9:35:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tkleinfelder writes:

 

Hi, I didn't know that about selenium...Thanks! I'll look into it.Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos.

[Guest guest]

Thanx...I'd like to read it...however, keep in mind that we need very little selenium...and it is found in lots of foods.

 

David

 

 

In a message dated 4/21/2008 10:46:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time, beted711 writes:

What I read was a "print out" of an article in one of Dr. Douglas's forums. It stated it a bit differently than this article you quote. It made it sound as tho it was detrimental to take iodine unless selenium was also taken. I will see if I can locate that article and reread it. BettyNeed a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos.

[Guest guest]

Hi,I didn't know that about selenium...Thanks! I'll look into it.TrishOn Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 12:44 PM, beted711 <beted711 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Trish, thanks for sharing this website. I found lots of interesting

info on it,including the Iosol that I take. I have also recently

learned that you must take selenium also when you take iodine - they

work synergistically and one without the other is not good for the

thyroid. I don't know if this is new knowledge, but it was new to me.

Bettyoleander soup , " Trish Kleinfelder "

<tkleinfelder wrote:

>

> Hi Angel,

> I can special order it thru my local Rite Aide Pharmacy (and I

live in a

> very small town!); you can also order it over the internet at :

>

> http://bloodrootblacksalve.com/lugols.htm

>

> and

>

> http://www.amazon.com/Lugols-Iodine-2-Fluid-Oz/dp/B000I20HJY

>

> There were many more places, too; I just googled " Lugol's Solution " .

>

> Good Luck.

>

> Trish

>

> On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 8:38 PM, <toreadpeoplehealthinfo wrote:

>

> > Trish, would you mind sharing these " several places " you

mention?

> >

> > Also, who is it that can special order it for you?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Angel

> >

> >

> >

> > Re: Iodine, Hypothyroidism, etc.

> >

<oleander soup/message/3513;_ylc=X3oDMTJy

dGlndWhxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0MzQ4NDc5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MDgxNA

Rtc2dJZAMzNTEzBHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2bXNnBHN0aW1lAzEyMDg0NzU4OTg-> Posted

> > by: " Trish Kleinfelder " tkleinfelder

> > <tkleinfelder?Subject=+Re%3A%20Iodine%2C%20Hypothyroidism%2C%

20etc%2E>

> > astrotrissh <http://profiles./astrotrissh> Thu Apr 17,

2008

> > 2:01 pm (PDT) Hi. I found Lugol's Solution in several places; and

I can

> > 'special order'

> > it from my local drugstore (no prescription required). It's about

$30 a

> > pint.

> > trish

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> I would rather be ashes than dust! I would rather that my

> spark should burn out in a brilliant blaze than it should

> be stifled by dry rot. I would rather be a superb meteor,

> every atom of me in magnificent glow, than a sleepy and

> permanent planet. The proper function of man is to live,

> not to exist. I shall not waste my days in trying to

> prolong them. I shall use my time. "

> --Jack London, American Author

>

 

 

 

 

-- I would rather be ashes than dust! I would rather that my spark should burn out in a brilliant blaze than it should be stifled by dry rot. I would rather be a superb meteor,

every atom of me in magnificent glow, than a sleepy and permanent planet. The proper function of man is to live, not to exist. I shall not waste my days in trying to prolong them. I shall use my time. "

--Jack London, American Author

[Guest guest]

What I read was a " print out " of an article in one of Dr. Douglas's

forums. It stated it a bit differently than this article you quote.

It made it sound as tho it was detrimental to take iodine unless

selenium was also taken. I will see if I can locate that article and

reread it. Betty-- In oleander soup , ahzoov wrote:

>

> Wouldn't you know it....even the NIH has something on this:

> _http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/selenium.asp_

(http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/selenium.asp)

>

>

> People with iodine deficiency may also benefit from selenium

> supplementation. Iodine deficiency is rare in the U.S., but is

still common in developing

> countries where access to iodine is limited [_28_

> (http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/selenium.asp#en28) ].

Researchers believe that selenium deficiency may

> worsen the effects of iodine deficiency on thyroid function, and

that adequate

> selenium nutritional status may help protect against some of the

neurological

> effects of iodine deficiency [_6_

> (http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/selenium.asp#en6) ,_7_

(http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/selenium.asp#en7) ].

> Researchers involved in the Supplementation en Vitamines et

Mineraux AntioXydants

> (SU.VI.MAX) study in France, which was designed to assess the

effect of vitamin

> and mineral supplements on chronic disease risk, evaluated the

relationship

> between goiter and selenium in a subset of this research

population. Their

> findings suggest that selenium supplements may be protective

against goiter,

> which refers to enlargement of the thyroid gland [_29_

> (http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/selenium.asp#en29) ].

>

> However, I take odds with the statement that Iodine deficiency

is " rare " in

> America. Intelligence is rare. Ethics are rare. But not iodine

deficiency.

>

> David

>

>

> In a message dated 4/21/2008 9:35:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

> tkleinfelder writes:

>

> Hi,

> I didn't know that about selenium...Thanks! I'll look into it.

>

>

>

>

>

> **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S.

used car

> listings at AOL Autos.

> (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)

>

[Guest guest]

To my knowlenge we need 200mg selenium daily, so two just two BRAZIL NUTS- a day are all we need for our health,

each nut contains 120mg of selenium.

not all selenium tablets are good or the same, like chelate, L.selino. methionine chalate, or other selenium chalate, must be avoided as they are inorganic and are not digested by the body,

Please correct me if iam wrong.

regards Mary

 

-

ahzoov

oleander soup

Tuesday, April 22, 2008 1:48 PM

Re: Iodine, Hypothyroidism, etc.

 

 

 

Thanx...I'd like to read it...however, keep in mind that we need very little selenium...and it is found in lots of foods.

 

David

 

 

In a message dated 4/21/2008 10:46:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time, beted711 writes:

What I read was a "print out" of an article in one of Dr. Douglas's forums. It stated it a bit differently than this article you quote. It made it sound as tho it was detrimental to take iodine unless selenium was also taken. I will see if I can locate that article and reread it. Betty

 

 

Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos.

[Guest guest]

You are absolutely right......and the selenium that has been used in all these tests (which has actually moved the FDA to state that it "may" reduce the risk of certain cancers) is L-selenomethionine.

David

 

 

In a message dated 4/22/2008 2:36:36 A.M. Central Daylight Time, mary1kon writes:

 

To my knowlenge we need 200mg selenium daily, so two just two BRAZIL NUTS- a day are all we need for our health,

each nut contains 120mg of selenium.

not all selenium tablets are good or the same, like chelate, L.selino. methionine chalate, or other selenium chalate, must be avoided as they are inorganic and are not digested by the body,

Please correct me if iam wrong.

regards MaryNeed a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos.

[Guest guest]

Mary, did you mean 200 mcg of Selenium? Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I

think I read several years ago that 200 mg of selenium could be bad for

your body. jim K

oleander soup , ahzoov wrote:

>

> You are absolutely right......and the selenium that has been used in

all

> these tests (which has actually moved the FDA to state that it " may "

reduce the

> risk of certain cancers) is L-selenomethionine.

> David

>

>

> In a message dated 4/22/2008 2:36:36 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

> mary1kon writes:

>

> To my knowlenge we need 200mg selenium daily, so two just two BRAZIL

NUTS- a

> day are all we need for our health,

> each nut contains 120mg of selenium.

> not all selenium tablets are good or the same, like chelate, L.selino.

> methionine chalate, or other selenium chalate, must be avoided as they

are

> inorganic and are not digested by the body,

> Please correct me if iam wrong.

> regards Mary

>

>

>

>

>

> **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S.

used car

> listings at AOL Autos.

> (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)

>

[Guest guest]

David,I finally found it. The website is:

http://www.ithyroid.com/iodine.htm Scan down to " Interactions

between selenium and iodine " . It is true that we need only about

200mcg, and too much can cause problems, however our depleted soils

leave us with less minerals than previously, so we don't know how

much we are actually getting in our food. One more reason to eat

organically when possible. And to take supplements knowledgeably.

Bettyoleander soup , ahzoov wrote:

>

> Thanx...I'd like to read it...however, keep in mind that we need

very little

> selenium...and it is found in lots of foods.

>

> David

>

>

> In a message dated 4/21/2008 10:46:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

> beted711 writes:

>

> What I read was a " print out " of an article in one of Dr.

Douglas's

> forums. It stated it a bit differently than this article you

quote.

> It made it sound as tho it was detrimental to take iodine unless

> selenium was also taken. I will see if I can locate that article

and

> reread it. Betty

>

>

>

>

> **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S.

used car

> listings at AOL Autos.

> (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you David.

oops i forgot to mention the good L.selenomethionine, form of selenium.

good on you for correcting me there.

Mary

 

-

ahzoov

oleander soup

Tuesday, April 22, 2008 11:56 PM

Re: Iodine, Hypothyroidism, etc.

 

 

 

You are absolutely right......and the selenium that has been used in all these tests (which has actually moved the FDA to state that it "may" reduce the risk of certain cancers) is L-selenomethionine.

David

 

 

In a message dated 4/22/2008 2:36:36 A.M. Central Daylight Time, mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au writes:

 

To my knowlenge we need 200mg selenium daily, so two just two BRAZIL NUTS- a day are all we need for our health,

each nut contains 120mg of selenium.

not all selenium tablets are good or the same, like chelate, L.selino. methionine chalate, or other selenium chalate, must be avoided as they are inorganic and are not digested by the body,

Please correct me if iam wrong.

regards Mary

 

 

Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos.

[Guest guest]

No i mean 200mg for adults or 55mcg.

to make sure please ask others in the group, but my opinion is that the daily dose of selenium is 200mg, thats what i take anyway.

good luck Jim K.

regards Mary

 

-

shaco32

oleander soup

Wednesday, April 23, 2008 3:33 AM

Re: Iodine, Hypothyroidism, etc.

 

 

Mary, did you mean 200 mcg of Selenium? Forgive me if I'm wrong, but Ithink I read several years ago that 200 mg of selenium could be bad foryour body. jim Koleander soup , ahzoov wrote:>> You are absolutely right......and the selenium that has been used inall> these tests (which has actually moved the FDA to state that it "may"reduce the> risk of certain cancers) is L-selenomethionine.> David>>> In a message dated 4/22/2008 2:36:36 A.M. Central Daylight Time,> mary1kon writes:>> To my knowlenge we need 200mg selenium daily, so two just two BRAZILNUTS- a> day are all we need for our health,> each nut contains 120mg of selenium.> not all selenium tablets are good or the same, like chelate, L.selino.> methionine chalate, or other selenium chalate, must be avoided as theyare> inorganic and are not digested by the body,> Please correct me if iam wrong.> regards Mary>>>>>> **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S.used car> listings at AOL Autos.> (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)>

[Guest guest]

From the Life Extension websiteThe trace element selenium

was once thought to be nothing more than a curiosity. Chemically

similar to sulfur, which has known biological functions, and found in

soils throughout much of the world, selenium was nevertheless considered biologically irrelevant.

By the mid-twentieth century, however, scientists had discovered that selenium is an essential nutrient for animals. Without it, they realized, animals cannot function properly.

Entering the twenty-first century, we now know that selenium is crucial to the health of humans and animals alike. Moreover, in the nutritional sphere, selenium is considered a rising star that offers protection against a wide range of damaging diseases and conditions.

Selenium’s

promotion from irrelevant mineral to essential trace element is the

result of our growing understanding of its multifaceted, indispensable

roles in regulating metabolism, orchestrating normal growth, launching

successful reproductive efforts, neutralizing free radicals, and

defending the body against infections, among other key life processes.3

In fact, selenium

is so important to the human body that it is the only essential trace

element specified in the genetic code. Selenocysteine, known as the

twenty-first amino acid, is incorporated in numerous proteins under the

direction of human genetic code.4 Although plants do not appear to require selenium, many plants extract it from soil and store it in their tissues, where it is available for consumption by humans and animals.

In the early 1970s, scientists discovered that selenium

plays an integral role in protecting human cellular membranes from

peroxide damage, by virtue of its inclusion in glutathione peroxidase,

a natural antioxidant enzyme. Today, we know that selenium

is incorporated in at least 25 unique proteins in the body. Known as

selenoproteins, they play integral roles in everything from activating

thyroid hormone and regenerating spent vitamin C, to promoting healthy

pregnancies.5-8

 

 

 

 

Selenium’s Multiple RolesScientists have identified four different glutathione peroxidases containing selenium.3

In their crucial role as antioxidant enzymes, each of these distinct

proteins neutralizes potentially damaging free radicals, or reactive

oxygen species, by removing oxygen molecules and thus transforming the

threatening compounds into harmless molecules such as water or

alcohols. Their targets include destructive hydrogen peroxide and lipid

hydroperoxides.

Another selenium

complex, known as selenoprotein P, circulates in blood plasma and is

associated with cells lining the interior of blood vessels. Although

selenoprotein P’s functions remain sketchy, it is believed to protect

blood vessels by neutralizing the reactive oxygen species

peroxynitrate, and to act as a transport protein.5,9,10

 

 

 

 

Key to Thyroid Hormone RegulationStill

other selenium-containing proteins, the iodothyronine deiodinases, are

responsible for making active thyroid hormone available in the general

circulation. Indeed, the thyroid gland holds the highest selenium concentration of any organ in the body, due to selenium’s

crucial role in transforming inactive thyroxine, or T4, into

biologically active thyroid hormone (triiodothyronine, or T3), by

catalyzing the removal of iodine from T4. Three different selenium-containing enzymes are responsible for both activation and inactivation of thyroid hormone.

Selenium

is essential, therefore, to the success of important processes

regulated by thyroid hormone, such as normal growth, development, and

metabolism.11 Scientists recently examined selenium

status and thyroid health among 1,900 people in France in a large,

ongoing study of nutritional status and health. They determined that selenium

may offer significant protection against the development of goiter and

other abnormalities of the thyroid gland, particularly when iodine levels are low.Selenium. Selenium is required for appropriate thyroid hormone

synthesis, activation, and metabolism. Adequate selenium supports

efficient thyroid hormone synthesis and metabolism and protects the

thyroid gland from damage caused by excessive exposure to iodide

(Zimmerman MB 2002). Long-term selenium deficiency in experimental

animal models led to thyroid cell death and scarring after high iodide

loads (Kohrle J 1999). Selenium deficiency may seriously influence the

generation of free radicals, the conversion of thyroxineT4 to T3, and

the autoimmune process (Kohrle J 1999).

 

One study also found that selenium deficiency decreased the

inflammation that is associated with autoimmune thyroiditis. During

this study, female patients with autoimmune thyroiditis and elevated

antithyroid antibodies were given selenium. At the end of the study,

researchers found that a significant percentage of the patients had

normalized their antibody concentrations (Gartner R et al 2002)."

[Guest guest]

Very informative! Thanks for sharing that.

 

Betty