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> I use very hot water to thoroughly immerse the cups and wash with

> antiseptic soap and rinse several times.

>

>>>>> Depending on the antiseptic soap it is probably safe but

>>>>> legally not sufficient.There are special solutions made for

>>>>> instrument sterilization. As i said before some of these will

>>>>> kill even HIV and Hep C in 30 seconds. Their cheep and you

>>>>> can get them from any surgical supply hours

>

>

 

 

Hi Dr. Alon!

 

What do you call them - brand names?

 

Regards,

 

Pete

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What do you call them - brand names?

>>>>I am not in my office but i believe the one i use is called virocydal 205. I

buy it at Moor Medical.

 

 

 

 

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It is completely safe and it has no side

effects, but have to worry about the people with high blood sugar reading

and the one who are on blood thinning medications

>>>>>Why worry about high blood sugar?, They always have signs of blood stasis

and i have been bleeding them for 20 years without a single problem. Blood

thinners may make one bleed longer but usually not a problem if you stay away

from large vessels. You can always sprinkle yunan bai on the bleeding site. Or

even better use a shaving bleeding stooping stick.

 

 

 

 

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Dear Kal,

I just read your post on cupping and bleeding

I have a patient (51yrs) who has very extensive varicous veins on his calf of

his right leg from under his knee fold down to his achilles tendon.

Aside from a little apprehension I think it would be so good to releive some of

the pressure......

any experience ? - anyone else too please.

 

many thanks

verena

Please visit my web site

www.giftofhealth.com

 

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KAL

Chinese Medicine

Sunday, February 20, 2005 3:27 AM

Re: cupping

 

 

Hi

 

I do cupping & bleeding in my clinic on a regular basis, and i have seen

remarkable results in my patients. It is completely safe and it has no side

effects, but have to worry about the people with high blood sugar reading

and the one who are on blood thinning medications.

 

It does increase the qi level in the meridians from there the blood

circulation will increase many symptoms will dissapear, mostly i focus on

(T8 - thorasic vertebra) between BL-17 & BL-18.

 

I use more than one incision / needle puncturing with several blood letting

points. (i.e. two rounds of cupping)

 

 

Khaled

 

 

 

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Sunday, February 20, 2005 11:10 AM

Re: cupping

 

 

>

> Don`t worry the bleeding. There is a special

> Acupuncture called Bleeding Acupuncture. It use cup

> draw the blood out on the Acupuncture point. The

> treatment can get a lot of effecttive that the common

> Acupuncture can not do.

>

>

>

>

> --- Stephen Lamade <lhommedieu µÄÕýÎÄ£º

>> The glass suction cups are great but if you are

>> bleeding the patient you

>> need to make sure that the blood does not get into

>> the rubber gasket on the

>> top of the cup. This can get very difficult to

>> clean out so when you take

>> the cup off do not invert it in this case. Clean

>> immediately.

>>

>> Fire cups are o.k. but I prefer to use larger sizes

>> for this. For

>> small/medicum cups you can use a small piece of thin

>> paper twisted like a

>> Hersey's Kiss around a dime. Place the " trivet " on

>> the area to be cupped

>> and light the top; place the cup immediately on top

>> and the flame will

>> extinguish before it goes down too low. This

>> creates a nice suction that is

>> generally stronger than if you use the " alchohol

>> swab/forceps " method.

>>

>> Best,

>>

>> Steve Lamade

>>

>>

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From the website:

 

http://www.chinajnbook.com/cupping/intro.htm

 

What is Cupping Therapy?

 

Cupping is an ancient Chinese method of causing local congestion. A

partial vacuum is created in cups placed on the skin either by means

of heat or suction. This draws up the underlying tissues. When the

cup is left in place on the skin for a few minutes, blood stasis is

formed and localized healing takes place.

 

Cupping therapy has been further developed as a means to open the

'Meridians' of the body. Meridians are the conduits in the body

through which energy flows to every part of the body and through

every organ and tissue. There are five meridians on the back that,

when opened, allow invigorating energy to travel the whole length of

the body. It has been found that cupping is probably the best way of

opening those meridians.

 

Cupping has also been found to affect the body up to four inches into

the tissues, causing tissues to release toxins, activate the

lymphatic system, clear colon blockages, help activate and clear the

veins, arteries and capillaries, activate the skin, clear stretch

marks and improve varicose veins. Cupping is the best deep tissue

massage available. Cupping, the technique, is very useful and very

safe and can be easily learned and incorporated into your family

health practices.

 

 

 

 

 

From Lauren-

 

It can also be used to clear dampness from the body as well- usually

over spleen meridian points.

 

 

 

 

 

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Cupping theory is similar to Native American style. Native Americans would use a

wrap or thong in a specific area sometimes accompianied by a stick or stone to

bring energy for healing to a specific area. Sometimes lightly scraping or

tapping with a stick or stone would a method for similar effect.

 

Lauren Fortuna <llbeandip wrote:From the website:

 

http://www.chinajnbook.com/cupping/intro.htm

 

What is Cupping Therapy?

 

Cupping is an ancient Chinese method of causing local congestion. A

partial vacuum is created in cups placed on the skin either by means

of heat or suction. This draws up the underlying tissues. When the

cup is left in place on the skin for a few minutes, blood stasis is

formed and localized healing takes place.

 

Cupping therapy has been further developed as a means to open the

'Meridians' of the body. Meridians are the conduits in the body

through which energy flows to every part of the body and through

every organ and tissue. There are five meridians on the back that,

when opened, allow invigorating energy to travel the whole length of

the body. It has been found that cupping is probably the best way of

opening those meridians.

 

Cupping has also been found to affect the body up to four inches into

the tissues, causing tissues to release toxins, activate the

lymphatic system, clear colon blockages, help activate and clear the

veins, arteries and capillaries, activate the skin, clear stretch

marks and improve varicose veins. Cupping is the best deep tissue

massage available. Cupping, the technique, is very useful and very

safe and can be easily learned and incorporated into your family

health practices.

 

 

 

 

 

From Lauren-

 

It can also be used to clear dampness from the body as well- usually

over spleen meridian points.

 

 

 

 

 

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Cupping is also something that can be done at home. You can buy

those plastic cups with a pump so no fire is involved. This also

gives you a relative amount of control if you are a novice.

 

Eric

 

acupuncture , Hoang Ho <twomtns2002>

wrote:

> Cupping theory is similar to Native American style. Native

Americans would use a wrap or thong in a specific area sometimes

accompianied by a stick or stone to bring energy for healing to a

specific area. Sometimes lightly scraping or tapping with a stick or

stone would a method for similar effect.

>

> Lauren Fortuna <llbeandip@n...> wrote:From the website:

>

> http://www.chinajnbook.com/cupping/intro.htm

>

> What is Cupping Therapy?

>

> Cupping is an ancient Chinese method of causing local congestion.

A

> partial vacuum is created in cups placed on the skin either by

means

> of heat or suction. This draws up the underlying tissues. When

the

> cup is left in place on the skin for a few minutes, blood stasis

is

> formed and localized healing takes place.

>

> Cupping therapy has been further developed as a means to open the

> 'Meridians' of the body. Meridians are the conduits in the body

> through which energy flows to every part of the body and through

> every organ and tissue. There are five meridians on the back

that,

> when opened, allow invigorating energy to travel the whole length

of

> the body. It has been found that cupping is probably the best way

of

> opening those meridians.

>

> Cupping has also been found to affect the body up to four inches

into

> the tissues, causing tissues to release toxins, activate the

> lymphatic system, clear colon blockages, help activate and clear

the

> veins, arteries and capillaries, activate the skin, clear stretch

> marks and improve varicose veins. Cupping is the best deep tissue

> massage available. Cupping, the technique, is very useful and

very

> safe and can be easily learned and incorporated into your family

> health practices.

>

>

>

>

>

> From Lauren-

>

> It can also be used to clear dampness from the body as well-

usually

> over spleen meridian points.

>

>

>

>

>

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My Dad suggested t his, Eric, and I'm looking into it. He has a neat

vacuum in his garage -- I don't know its use -- but said I'd need

suction cups for my skin. I'll look into what you suggst. Thank you!!

 

 

Glenn

 

acupuncture , " Eric " <mach5_kel> wrote:

> Cupping is also something that can be done at home. You can buy

> those plastic cups with a pump so no fire is involved. >

> Eric

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thanks, for the info  

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