headaches

[Guest guest]

So true. I once had a doctor (back when I still went to them) tell

me, " We don't worry about Why. "

 

I think that was the last time I ever went to one.

 

If you don't worry about Why, you can never fix the problem. Of

course, that's what they want. If the problem is never fixed, they

just keep coming back and coming back.

 

Terri

 

herbal remedies , " Lisa " <lisa wrote:

>

> I hate to state the obvious Susan, but most of us are here on this

list

> because we do NOT want to see medical doctors LOL. I've never yet

known

> an MD who could actually pinpoint a CAUSE of something, even if they

> did look for it - which they usually don't. Most medical doctors

only

> know how to identify SYMPTOMS and know how to treat them!

> Lisa de Haas

> Senior Moderator

>

> herbal remedies , susan <susan134@> wrote:

> >

> > Have you seen a medical doctor about the cause of these headaches?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

what I like to use for headaches, at least the ones that are towards

the front of my head, is dr christophers cayenne rub I just put a

little on my forehead and a little on my temples. Be sure not to get

too close to the eyes though. This usually works for me in just a few

minutes.

 

Amy W

[Guest guest]

Hi Stacy,

 

I know what you mean about MDs! Yours sounds creepy!! Yuck!!

 

I just know what Doc says about headaches in one of his writings - check out

the files for his articles where he mentions that " stoppage " is the most

common reason for headaches.

 

The best I can suggest is a Total Body Cleanse - you'll find all the info on

this in the files.

 

Along with that, you may want to see if the headache is stress related, and

if so, find the WHO! There's always a WHO with stress. And just like you get

rid of toxic food, you also need to get rid of toxic people (not literally

of course LOL, just get them out of your life).

 

Meanwhile, anything you can do to improve your lifestyle, diet, exercise,

sunshine - all that will help!!

 

love

Lisa

 

-

" Stacy Wilson " <dragn_lady

<herbal remedies >

Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:26 PM

Re: Herbal Remedies - headaches

 

 

> Thanks, Lisa! I HAVE seen medical doctors. I lost count at 6

> different ones concerning my headaches, including neurologists who

> only made me feel creept out, because he kept rubbing his privates

> into my back during the exam! Any wonder why I don't have faith in

> md's?

>

> I can't take magnesium, as I had reactions to it while delivering my

> middle two babies...had to have it because of preeclampsia. I HAVE

> been on preventative meds, but when you realize you are taking

> antiseizure meds, that kind of freaks you out.

>

> Thanks everyone. I appreciate it!

>

> Stacy

>

>

>

> herbal remedies , " Lisa " <lisa wrote:

>>

>> Oops sorry, that last message went before I'd entered my reply!

>>

>> Anywho... I have never yet met a herbalist who asked me if an MD had

>> been seen! If they do, I'll find another one!!

>>

>> Who says we have to see an MD for diagnosis? I sometimes do, but

>> only because I'm lacking the information and only if it's something

>> that requires a person to actually SEE the problem - and this is

>> only when I lack funds to see a real doctor (A Naturopath)!!!!.

>>

>> My route is to learn to take full reponsibility for my own health,

>> and to that end I am busy getting as much information as I can;

>> which is why I am part of this list. And I think this holds for most

>> of us on this list, which is why we post to the group and get help

>> for our health problems!

>>

>> love

>> Lisa de Haas

>> Senior Moderator

>>

>> herbal remedies , susan <susan134@> wrote:

>> >

>> > VERY TRUE, but there could be something very wrong, it is NOT up

>> to us to diagnose anything. We do need medical doctors ----be just

>> sometimes. If all could work together that would be wonderful, but

>> until that time comes....Let just say that the first thing an

>> herbalist need to know is IF a medical doctor has been seen and if

>> anything was found.

>> >

>> > Susan

>> >

>> > Lisa <lisa@> wrote:

>> > I hate to state the obvious Susan, but most of us are here on

>> this list

>> > because we do NOT want to see medical doctors LOL. I've never yet

>> known

>> > an MD who could actually pinpoint a CAUSE of something, even if

>> they

>> > did look for it - which they usually don't. Most medical doctors

>> only

>> > know how to identify SYMPTOMS and know how to treat them!

>> > Lisa de Haas

>> > Senior Moderator

>> >

>> > herbal remedies , susan <susan134@> wrote:

>> > >

>> > > Have you seen a medical doctor about the cause of these

>> headaches?

>> > >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

>> > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

>> > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any

>> natural remedy.

>> > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own

>> physician and to

>> > prescribe for your own health.

>> > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here

>> as long as

>> > they behave themselves.

>> > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and

>> any person

>> > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own

>> risk.

>> > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or

>> products from list members, you are agreeing to

>> > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner

>> and members free of any liability.

>> >

>> > Dr. Ian Shillington

>> > Doctor of Naturopathy

>> > Dr.IanShillington@

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > Visit your group " herbal remedies " on the web.

>> >

>> >

[Guest guest]

Have you tried Cayenne? When something is ill it needs circulation, all you have to do is put a dropperful or more in your water then see how your head feels. GinaStacy Wilson <dragn_lady wrote: Thanks, Lisa! I HAVE seen medical doctors. I lost count at 6different ones concerning my headaches, including neurologists who, "Lisa" <

Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.

[Guest guest]

Hi, Lisa.

 

Yeah, that doc went buh bye years ago! He was a major creep.

 

Some of my headaches are stress related. But then, I am mom to 4

girls...one turning 17 in a couple weeks, 7 1/2, almost 4 and almost

1. AND trying to sell my home in MA and find one in Georgia, all by

th end of June.

 

Stacy

 

 

herbal remedies , " Lisa de Haas " <lisa

wrote:

>

> Hi Stacy,

>

> I know what you mean about MDs! Yours sounds creepy!! Yuck!!

>

> I just know what Doc says about headaches in one of his writings -

check out

> the files for his articles where he mentions that " stoppage " is the

most

> common reason for headaches.

>

> The best I can suggest is a Total Body Cleanse - you'll find all the

info on

> this in the files.

>

> Along with that, you may want to see if the headache is stress

related, and

> if so, find the WHO! There's always a WHO with stress. And just like

you get

> rid of toxic food, you also need to get rid of toxic people (not

literally

> of course LOL, just get them out of your life).

>

> Meanwhile, anything you can do to improve your lifestyle, diet,

exercise,

> sunshine - all that will help!!

>

> love

> Lisa

>

> -

> " Stacy Wilson " <dragn_lady

> <herbal remedies >

> Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:26 PM

> Re: Herbal Remedies - headaches

>

>

> > Thanks, Lisa! I HAVE seen medical doctors. I lost count at 6

> > different ones concerning my headaches, including neurologists who

> > only made me feel creept out, because he kept rubbing his privates

> > into my back during the exam! Any wonder why I don't have faith in

> > md's?

> >

> > I can't take magnesium, as I had reactions to it while delivering my

> > middle two babies...had to have it because of preeclampsia. I HAVE

> > been on preventative meds, but when you realize you are taking

> > antiseizure meds, that kind of freaks you out.

> >

> > Thanks everyone. I appreciate it!

> >

> > Stacy

> >

> >

> >

> > herbal remedies , " Lisa " <lisa@> wrote:

> >>

> >> Oops sorry, that last message went before I'd entered my reply!

> >>

> >> Anywho... I have never yet met a herbalist who asked me if an MD had

> >> been seen! If they do, I'll find another one!!

> >>

> >> Who says we have to see an MD for diagnosis? I sometimes do, but

> >> only because I'm lacking the information and only if it's something

> >> that requires a person to actually SEE the problem - and this is

> >> only when I lack funds to see a real doctor (A Naturopath)!!!!.

> >>

> >> My route is to learn to take full reponsibility for my own health,

> >> and to that end I am busy getting as much information as I can;

> >> which is why I am part of this list. And I think this holds for most

> >> of us on this list, which is why we post to the group and get help

> >> for our health problems!

> >>

> >> love

> >> Lisa de Haas

> >> Senior Moderator

> >>

> >> herbal remedies , susan <susan134@> wrote:

> >> >

> >> > VERY TRUE, but there could be something very wrong, it is NOT up

> >> to us to diagnose anything. We do need medical doctors ----be just

> >> sometimes. If all could work together that would be wonderful, but

> >> until that time comes....Let just say that the first thing an

> >> herbalist need to know is IF a medical doctor has been seen and if

> >> anything was found.

> >> >

> >> > Susan

> >> >

> >> > Lisa <lisa@> wrote:

> >> > I hate to state the obvious Susan, but most of us are here on

> >> this list

> >> > because we do NOT want to see medical doctors LOL. I've never yet

> >> known

> >> > an MD who could actually pinpoint a CAUSE of something, even if

> >> they

> >> > did look for it - which they usually don't. Most medical doctors

> >> only

> >> > know how to identify SYMPTOMS and know how to treat them!

> >> > Lisa de Haas

> >> > Senior Moderator

> >> >

> >> > herbal remedies , susan <susan134@> wrote:

> >> > >

> >> > > Have you seen a medical doctor about the cause of these

> >> headaches?

> >> > >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> >> > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> >> > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any

> >> natural remedy.

> >> > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own

> >> physician and to

> >> > prescribe for your own health.

> >> > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here

> >> as long as

> >> > they behave themselves.

> >> > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and

> >> any person

> >> > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own

> >> risk.

> >> > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or

> >> products from list members, you are agreeing to

> >> > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner

> >> and members free of any liability.

> >> >

> >> > Dr. Ian Shillington

> >> > Doctor of Naturopathy

> >> > Dr.IanShillington@

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > Visit your group " herbal remedies " on the web.

> >> >

> >> >

[Guest guest]

Doc mentions that 80% of all headaches are due to stoppages. So on that note... how has your bowel movement been?

 

Perhaps if you tell us more about your general eating habits? exercise? Fresh air? etc..

 

love

Lisa de Haas

Senior Moderator

 

-

Yasmeen Parsley

herbal remedies

Tuesday, April 11, 2006 5:42 AM

Herbal Remedies - Headaches

Hi,I have been having a consistent headache for two months. It's prodominantly on one side of my head in the frontal area and by my temple, and the back on my head and sometimes in my neck. Doctors have been unable to properly diagnose me. Some claim it is sinusitus, others migraine, other tension. Some even thought is might be cluster.Massaging the area sometimes helps.

[Guest guest]

i would go and find a good massage therapist who does cranial work . it sounds like some of your neck + face muscles are tight . i read in one of my books lately [ wish i'd remember which on e] that a tight muscle can cause sinus problems .

 

sounds like tension and nerve inpingement to me . i would defenitly get a good neckmassage and maybe ssssome neckadjustment from a chiropractor .

 

gab

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/307 - Release 4/10/2006

[Guest guest]

Dear Beth,

Headaches and Migraines can be caused by many factors. It can be anything from a sensitivity to certain foods or your environment, all the way through to a hormonal imbalance or even fluctuating blood sugar levels! Your case may be quite complex and complicated, so more information is probably needed to make any assesment and therefor, any suggestions as to what to do. Have you seen any naturopaths? If so, what was their assesment? Did you see more than one? What other therapists have you seen?

Bright blessings,

Hania

 

Hania Trzaskowski BHSci.Nat

 

Chirinka Natural Therapies

Muscle Management

 

-

beth

herbal remedies

Sunday, June 25, 2006 11:04 AM

Herbal Remedies - headaches

 

 

im new to the group and have been doing alot of reading, but i havent seen anything about headaches. ive had daily headaches for about 6 yrs now. drs have done CAT scans, MRI's and they say they are tension headaches. ive tried anti depressants, anxiety meds, painkillers, stretching exercises, etc. the only thing that works is excedrin.........LOTS of it! i started out only taking two at a time, but over time you build an immunity to it and have to increase the dosage. i dont know what else to try. ive eliminated as much stress in my life as i can, but some things you just have to deal with. any ideas or suggestions would be greatly welcomed and i am to the point that i will try just about anything!..............beth

 

 

Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.3/374 - Release 23/06/2006

[Guest guest]

Water and alot of it, for starters! For an herb I have seen Cayenne tincture work over an over again for that problem. The other thing that would totally get rid of your problem do a TBD Total Body detox and that would lick your problem for sure. Ginabeth <dizzylizzy38 wrote: im new to the group and have been doing alot of reading, but i havent seen anything about headaches. ive had daily headaches for about 6 yrs now. drs have done CAT scans, MRI's and they say they are tension headaches. ive tried anti

depressants, anxiety meds, painkillers, stretching exercises, etc. the only thing that works is excedrin.........LOTS of it! i started out only taking two at a time, but over time you build an immunity to it and have to increase the dosage. i dont know what else to try. ive eliminated as much stress in my life as i can, but some things you just have to deal with. any ideas or suggestions would be greatly welcomed and i am to the point that i will try just about anything!..............bethHave a Happy and Healthy Day, Gina Kopera

Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail Beta.

[Guest guest]

beth ,

 

if they are tension headaches , go to a chiropractor and let them adjust your neck . then go to a massage therapist and get a good massage !

 

many years ago , befoe i ever became a massage therapist , i had headache problems . my kids gave the best face massages !!! my son [ 6-12 years old ] knew all the spots and could get rid of my headaches within less than 2 min !!! then he became a teenager and unfortunately he now is " tooo old " .

 

i have whiplash from a carwreck , and get headaches often . once i had them soo bad [ only 1 week ] that i screamed for a whole week . catscan found nothing . we had no insurance at the time or they would have checked further . went to ER ... all they gave me was shots and pills . chiro found a pinched nerve , did an adjustment and then massage .

 

hope you find relief !!!!!!!

 

MARANATHA !

 

 

gabriele

gcliburn

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Beth,

 

Boy do I know about headaches! I get at least 3 per week and they are

horrible, or were, for so long. I was taking Advil and tons of it. At

one point my liver was aching and I contributed it to ibuprofen

overdose. I began using magnetic bracelets for my headaches about 6

months ago and they have helped tremendously! I purchased them from my

chiropractor(about $20 each) but you can get them many places. When I

feel that headachey feeling coming on I put the bracelets on and it's

instant relief. I realize magnetic therapy doesn't work for everyone

but it's worth a try! And lots of water has helped too - drink spring

water throughout the day. I drink a gallon a day.

 

I wish you well.

 

Tori

[Guest guest]

ive tried the chiropractor route, he did say i had something out of place in my neck, but couldnt get it to go back in place. so that didnt work. i used to go for weekly massages, which were wonderful, but just not enough. thanks for the thought, thogabriele <gcliburn wrote: beth , if they are tension headaches , go to a chiropractor and

let them adjust your neck . then go to a massage therapist and get a good massage ! many years ago , befoe i ever became a massage therapist , i had headache problems . my kids gave the best face massages !!! my son [ 6-12 years old ] knew all the spots and could get rid of my headaches within less than 2 min !!! then he became a teenager and unfortunately he now is " tooo old " . i have whiplash from a carwreck , and get headaches often . once i had them soo bad [ only 1 week ] that i screamed for a whole week . catscan found nothing . we had no insurance at the time or they would have checked further . went to ER ... all they gave me was shots and pills . chiro found a pinched nerve , did an adjustment and then massage . hope you find relief !!!!!!! MARANATHA ! gabriele gcliburn

Ring'em or ping'em. Make PC-to-phone calls as low as 1¢/min with Messenger with Voice.

[Guest guest]

no, ive never seen a naturapaths. ive seen family drs, neurologists, psychologists, chiropractors, have gone several rounds of physical therapy. the last thing the drs tried was eye surgery to open my eyes more. they were thinking that maybe i was holding my head and neck funny since my eyes werent wide open. i havent dealt muich with doctors since THAT......lol. Hania Trzaskowski <chironmedicine wrote: Dear Beth, Headaches and Migraines can be caused by many factors. It can be

anything from a sensitivity to certain foods or your environment, all the way through to a hormonal imbalance or even fluctuating blood sugar levels! Your case may be quite complex and complicated, so more information is probably needed to make any assesment and therefor, any suggestions as to what to do. Have you seen any naturopaths? If so, what was their assesment? Did you see more than one? What other therapists have you seen? Bright blessings, Hania Hania Trzaskowski BHSci.Nat Chirinka Natural Therapies Muscle Management - beth herbal remedies Sunday, June 25, 2006 11:04 AM Herbal Remedies - headaches im new to the group and have been doing alot of reading, but i havent seen anything about headaches. ive had daily headaches for about 6 yrs now. drs have done CAT scans, MRI's and they say they are tension headaches. ive tried anti depressants, anxiety meds, painkillers, stretching exercises, etc. the only thing that works is excedrin.........LOTS of it! i started out only taking two at a time, but over time you build an immunity to it and have to

increase the dosage. i dont know what else to try. ive eliminated as much stress in my life as i can, but some things you just have to deal with. any ideas or suggestions would be greatly welcomed and i am to the point that i will try just about anything!..............beth Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.3/374 - Release 23/06/2006

Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Mail Beta.

[Guest guest]

Dear Beth,

Excedrin will eventually destroy your Liver, and when that happens, welcome to Cancer.

Headaches are usually caused by the following, in their order of importance.

1. Bowel Problems. (Clogged, sluggish, and constipated bowels)

2 Potassium / Salt imbalances resulting in Calcium and Magnesium deficiencies. The usual missing ingredient or lowest ingredient is usually the Potassium.

3. Hormonal Imbalances due to things being taken into the body that shouldn't be there - Coffee, Chocolate, Alcohol, Drugs, Commercial Meats loaded full of Hormones, Steroids, and Antibiotics.

4. Mental Reasons. Physical Trauma in the past can be a major mental cause behind headaches. These would include: Operations, Accidents, Rape, Spousal Abuse, and Drug Abuse.

and on and on...

Usually, 80% of my clients would get their headaches handled by the time we made it through #3.

Hope this helps.

In Health, Freedom, and Love,

Doc

 

Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc

 

-

beth

herbal remedies

Saturday, June 24, 2006 9:04 PM

Herbal Remedies - headaches

 

 

im new to the group and have been doing alot of reading, but i havent seen anything about headaches. ive had daily headaches for about 6 yrs now. drs have done CAT scans, MRI's and they say they are tension headaches. ive tried anti depressants, anxiety meds, painkillers, stretching exercises, etc. the only thing that works is excedrin.........LOTS of it! i started out only taking two at a time, but over time you build an immunity to it and have to increase the dosage. i dont know what else to try. ive eliminated as much stress in my life as i can, but some things you just have to deal with. any ideas or suggestions would be greatly welcomed and i am to the point that i will try just about anything!..............beth

[Guest guest]

 

Hello Beth - I would suggest going to see a naturopath for a full assessment. And if one doesn't get it, let them know or go to someone else!! ( We all have different bents on certain remedies, instead, and types of assessments...)

 

Some may ask you to go back to the doctor, most probably to get some tests done that the doctors wouldn't have dreamed of seeing as anything to do with headaches such as checking your insulin resistance & B sugar levels, hormonal status, etc) which may give the naturopath indication as to where the problem is possibly stemming from - i.e. - looking at the root causes of the problem. I know that over here, naturopaths can give some referrals for certain tests, however, they have to be payed for out of pocket, whereas the government pays for many tests if referred from a GP, so it's quite common over here that naturopaths send people back to their GP to ask for certain tests, usually to rule out certain diseases and serious causes.

(e.g. One of my colleagues saw a patient with persistent headaches that were developing over months. After taking a case, and finding other indicative symptoms, she was worried they may have been secondary to another health problem, and sent the patient back to the GP. After tests, it turned out to be a non- malignant tumour in the patients brain, The surgeons did their work, the naturopaths helped to quicken and improve healing and reduce risks of further complications......all in all, is the naturopath wasn't concerned and tried to treat it as a simple migraine or tension headache, that growth could have gotten much worse before detected.)

 

Give the assessment/ treatment regime a little while - if it doesn't seem to budge anything after a month or so, let the practitioner know. They can either try another angle, or refer you to someone who may specialise more in that area.

 

Herbal medicine is not about matching the disease to the cure, ( like a lot of people do with OTC products) but matching the herb to the individual and their unique underlying causes for their health concerns. In complicated cases, it is important to get a full assessment.

 

Bright blessings,

Hania

 

 

 

 

 

no, ive never seen a naturapaths. ive seen family drs, neurologists, psychologists, chiropractors, have gone several rounds of physical therapy. the last thing the drs tried was eye surgery to open my eyes more. they were thinking that maybe i was holding my head and neck funny since my eyes werent wide open. i havent dealt muich with doctors since THAT......lol. Hania Trzaskowski <chironmedicine wrote:

 

 

Dear Beth,

Headaches and Migraines can be caused by many factors. It can be anything from a sensitivity to certain foods or your environment, all the way through to a hormonal imbalance or even fluctuating blood sugar levels! Your case may be quite complex and complicated, so more information is probably needed to make any assesment and therefor, any suggestions as to what to do. Have you seen any naturopaths? If so, what was their assesment? Did you see more than one? What other therapists have you seen?

Bright blessings,

Hania

 

Hania Trzaskowski BHSci.Nat

 

Chirinka Natural Therapies

Muscle Management

 

-

beth

herbal remedies

Sunday, June 25, 2006 11:04 AM

Herbal Remedies - headaches

 

 

im new to the group and have been doing alot of reading, but i havent seen anything about headaches. ive had daily headaches for about 6 yrs now. drs have done CAT scans, MRI's and they say they are tension headaches. ive tried anti depressants, anxiety meds, painkillers, stretching exercises, etc. the only thing that works is excedrin.........LOTS of it! i started out only taking two at a time, but over time you build an immunity to it and have to increase the dosage. i dont know what else to try. ive eliminated as much stress in my life as i can, but some things you just have to deal with. any ideas or suggestions would be greatly welcomed and i am to the point that i will try just about anything!..............beth

 

 

Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.3/374 - Release 23/06/2006

 

 

 

Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Mail Beta.

 

 

 

Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.4/375 - Release 25/06/2006

[Guest guest]

 

Hi Tori

I have seen the bracelets give a lot of relief to many people. However, you can find that reliving the pain can only mask the problem - the pain is not there, but the problem still is. I would still try to endeavour to seek out the root causes of your headaches.

 

Writing a diary is a great start - when you feel one coming on, write down everything you did, ate, your recent sleeping hours, stressors, etc - for the past 24-38 hours before a headache came on. After a while, you will probably start to see a connection.

 

Herbal medicine that is based around symptomatic relief, and other forms of pain relief, whether drugs or natural, should only be just that - symptomatic relief. It is not a cure, nor a permanent way to deal with problems. ( I tell patients this all the time - they say " but it's natural isn't it?" even if natural, you could be masking a larger problems brewing even further underneath)

Yet again, pain relief is wonderful to give - and I have patients who use things such as magnetic bracelets, magnetic pillows, anodyne herbs, etc - however, it should never be a long term solution. The goal is to be pain free - without having to rely on anything as a crutch.

Wishing you all the best,

Hania

 

 

 

 

Hi Beth,Boy do I know about headaches! I get at least 3 per week and they are horrible, or were, for so long. I was taking Advil and tons of it. At one point my liver was aching and I contributed it to ibuprofen overdose. I began using magnetic bracelets for my headaches about 6 months ago and they have helped tremendously! I purchased them from my chiropractor(about $20 each) but you can get them many places. When I feel that headachey feeling coming on I put the bracelets on and it's instant relief. I realize magnetic therapy doesn't work for everyone but it's worth a try! And lots of water has helped too - drink spring water throughout the day. I drink a gallon a day.I wish you well.Tori

 

 

Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.4/375 - Release 25/06/2006

[Guest guest]

Hello,

My DD suffers from migraines/headaches since early childhood. We eat a pretty balanced diet but I have to wonder about the potassium/salt thing. I know part of it is stress, she is my little perfectionist! (she's 19 now). She has always thought if you can't do it right don't do it at all or even try!

One thing I found that works at least for awhile is a headache remedy I make for her, works best if done in a darkened room, but would at least help her through the school day. (couldn't go through the nurse, whose remedy for migraines was tums!).

 

It is a mixture of Lavender, Geranium, Rosewood and Peppermint EO's in Almond oil. My " other " daughter used the same thing for her asthma.

DD would rub it into her temples and then cup her hands over her mouth and nose and breath deeply. It would help her relax. The " other " daughter would just put it on her hands and breath deeply, stopped an asthma attack a few times.

 

Pam

On 6/26/06, Dr. Ian Shillington <DocShillington wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Beth,

Excedrin will eventually destroy your Liver, and when that happens, welcome to Cancer.

Headaches are usually caused by the following, in their order of importance.

1. Bowel Problems. (Clogged, sluggish, and constipated bowels)

2 Potassium / Salt imbalances resulting in Calcium and Magnesium deficiencies. The usual missing ingredient or lowest ingredient is usually the Potassium.

3. Hormonal Imbalances due to things being taken into the body that shouldn't be there - Coffee, Chocolate, Alcohol, Drugs, Commercial Meats loaded full of Hormones, Steroids, and Antibiotics.

 

4. Mental Reasons. Physical Trauma in the past can be a major mental cause behind headaches. These would include: Operations, Accidents, Rape, Spousal Abuse, and Drug Abuse.

 

and on and on...

Usually, 80% of my clients would get their headaches handled by the time we made it through #3.

Hope this helps.

In Health, Freedom, and Love,

Doc

 

Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc

 

 

-

beth

herbal remedies

 

Saturday, June 24, 2006 9:04 PM

Herbal Remedies - headaches

 

 

im new to the group and have been doing alot of reading, but i havent seen anything about headaches. ive had daily headaches for about 6 yrs now. drs have done CAT scans, MRI's and they say they are tension

headaches. ive tried anti depressants, anxiety meds, painkillers, stretching exercises, etc. the only thing that works is excedrin.........LOTS of it! i started out only taking two at a time, but over time you build an immunity to it and have to increase the dosage. i dont know what else to try. ive eliminated as much stress in my life as i can, but some things you just have to deal with. any ideas or suggestions would be greatly welcomed and i am to the point

that i will try just about anything!..............beth

[Guest guest]

i understand this about the excedrin, thats why i want to find other things to try. i was told about a year ago that i was low on potassium, and i read up on it and started taking a womens multi vitamin, and extra potassium, magnesium and calcium, and a B-complex. i took them daily for about 2 months. i did read somewhere that this guy that had headaches took massive amounts of the potassium, and it helped, but im just not sure how much to really take. but after the two months, i still had the headaches. there HAS been alot of stress in my life, physical abuse, etc as a child and a few rough times as an adult, but i think i handle that pretty well. theres some extra stuff going on right now and i started seeing a new dr. hes giving me buspar and im going to have blood drawn monday after fasting, he said just to make sure everything looks good. ive gotten alot of good ideas from this board, but now i need to find a place to go shopping for herbs. im in the sticks, so

ill have to see whats around here. as far as the hormones, i had a hysterectomy 3 yrs ago, but they left my ovaries. "Dr. Ian Shillington" <DocShillington wrote: Dear Beth, Excedrin will eventually destroy your Liver, and when that happens, welcome to Cancer. Headaches are usually caused by the following, in their order of importance. 1. Bowel Problems. (Clogged, sluggish, and constipated bowels) 2 Potassium / Salt imbalances resulting in Calcium and Magnesium deficiencies. The usual missing ingredient or lowest ingredient is usually the Potassium. 3. Hormonal Imbalances due to things being taken into the body that shouldn't be there - Coffee, Chocolate, Alcohol, Drugs, Commercial Meats loaded full of Hormones, Steroids, and Antibiotics. 4. Mental Reasons. Physical Trauma in the past can be a major mental cause behind headaches. These would include: Operations, Accidents, Rape, Spousal Abuse, and Drug Abuse. and on and on... Usually, 80% of my clients would get their headaches handled by the time we made it through #3. Hope this helps. In Health, Freedom, and Love, Doc Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc - beth herbal remedies Saturday, June 24, 2006 9:04 PM Herbal Remedies - headaches im new to the group and have been doing alot of reading, but i havent seen anything about headaches. ive had daily headaches for about 6 yrs now. drs have done CAT scans, MRI's and they say they are tension headaches. ive tried anti depressants, anxiety meds, painkillers, stretching exercises, etc. the only thing that works is excedrin.........LOTS of it! i started out only taking two at a time, but over time you build an immunity to it and have to increase the dosage. i dont know what else to try. ive eliminated as much stress in my life as i can, but some things you just have to deal with. any ideas or

suggestions would be greatly welcomed and i am to the point that i will try just about anything!..............beth

How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates.

[Guest guest]

Hello!!

I agree with DOC 100% - my protocol is pretty much the same when it comes to headaches with an unknown cause or headaches that arent secondary to other diseases. I do also find, quite often as well, things such as PMS being a common cause of headaches, especially ones of a cyclical nature.

quick question:

Doc, do you think that quite often that it is possible that trauma or stress underlies a sluggish or over contracted bowel? ( I have seen this quite often to be the case, and so do many of my collegues, was wondering if you found it to be the same..) This is where I find herbs such as Verbena and Melissa useful - any others you find quite useful in these cases within your practice??

Many smiles,

Hania

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Beth,

Excedrin will eventually destroy your Liver, and when that happens, welcome to Cancer.

Headaches are usually caused by the following, in their order of importance.

1. Bowel Problems. (Clogged, sluggish, and constipated bowels)

2 Potassium / Salt imbalances resulting in Calcium and Magnesium deficiencies. The usual missing ingredient or lowest ingredient is usually the Potassium.

3. Hormonal Imbalances due to things being taken into the body that shouldn't be there - Coffee, Chocolate, Alcohol, Drugs, Commercial Meats loaded full of Hormones, Steroids, and Antibiotics.

4. Mental Reasons. Physical Trauma in the past can be a major mental cause behind headaches. These would include: Operations, Accidents, Rape, Spousal Abuse, and Drug Abuse.

and on and on...

Usually, 80% of my clients would get their headaches handled by the time we made it through #3.

Hope this helps.

In Health, Freedom, and Love,

Doc

 

Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc

 

-

beth

herbal remedies

Saturday, June 24, 2006 9:04 PM

Herbal Remedies - headaches

 

 

im new to the group and have been doing alot of reading, but i havent seen anything about headaches. ive had daily headaches for about 6 yrs now. drs have done CAT scans, MRI's and they say they are tension headaches. ive tried anti depressants, anxiety meds, painkillers, stretching exercises, etc. the only thing that works is excedrin.........LOTS of it! i started out only taking two at a time, but over time you build an immunity to it and have to increase the dosage. i dont know what else to try. ive eliminated as much stress in my life as i can, but some things you just have to deal with. any ideas or suggestions would be greatly welcomed and i am to the point that i will try just about anything!..............beth

 

 

 

Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.5/376 - Release 26/06/2006

[Guest guest]

Yes, I agree with you 100%, I am masking the underlying problem. I'm

just so happy to be rid of the pain that I don't really think about

it. I know that my headaches are much worse when I'm eating too many

starchy carbs and sugars, also MSG, and when I'm under stress. I've

been eating only organic vegetarian diet lately and am feeling so much

better. I have only had 2 headaches the past few weeks.

 

I also think my bed may play a part. My mattress is too firm and I

often wake up stiff and feeling unrested.

 

I appreciate your help!

 

Tori

[Guest guest]

Dear Pam,

Here is an easy way to tell if it's Potassium or not.

Whup up a batch of simple Body Balance + (old Panther Piss Remedy) without the Black Walnut Hulls. You can do this by:

1. 8 oz of Black Strap Molasses.

2. 8 oz of Organic Apple Cider Vinegar.

Mix the two of these together and the next time you get a headache, immediately take 2 tablespoons of this mixture.

I've had people with Potassium deficiencies have a headache disappear in 5 seconds with this remedy.

Try it. If you like the remedy, eventually go whole hog and add the Black Walnut Hull Tincture to this remedy, which makes it far more effective and assimilable.

In Health, Freedom, and Love,

Doc

 

Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc

 

-

Pam Anderson

herbal remedies

Monday, June 26, 2006 7:50 PM

Re: Herbal Remedies - headaches

 

 

 

Hello,

My DD suffers from migraines/headaches since early childhood. We eat a pretty balanced diet but I have to wonder about the potassium/salt thing. I know part of it is stress, she is my little perfectionist! (she's 19 now). She has always thought if you can't do it right don't do it at all or even try!

One thing I found that works at least for awhile is a headache remedy I make for her, works best if done in a darkened room, but would at least help her through the school day. (couldn't go through the nurse, whose remedy for migraines was tums!).

It is a mixture of Lavender, Geranium, Rosewood and Peppermint EO's in Almond oil. My "other" daughter used the same thing for her asthma.

DD would rub it into her temples and then cup her hands over her mouth and nose and breath deeply. It would help her relax. The "other" daughter would just put it on her hands and breath deeply, stopped an asthma attack a few times.

Pam

On 6/26/06, Dr. Ian Shillington <DocShillington wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Beth,

Excedrin will eventually destroy your Liver, and when that happens, welcome to Cancer.

Headaches are usually caused by the following, in their order of importance.

1. Bowel Problems. (Clogged, sluggish, and constipated bowels)

2 Potassium / Salt imbalances resulting in Calcium and Magnesium deficiencies. The usual missing ingredient or lowest ingredient is usually the Potassium.

3. Hormonal Imbalances due to things being taken into the body that shouldn't be there - Coffee, Chocolate, Alcohol, Drugs, Commercial Meats loaded full of Hormones, Steroids, and Antibiotics.

4. Mental Reasons. Physical Trauma in the past can be a major mental cause behind headaches. These would include: Operations, Accidents, Rape, Spousal Abuse, and Drug Abuse.

and on and on...

Usually, 80% of my clients would get their headaches handled by the time we made it through #3.

Hope this helps.

In Health, Freedom, and Love,

Doc

 

Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc

 

-

beth

herbal remedies

Saturday, June 24, 2006 9:04 PM

Herbal Remedies - headaches

 

 

im new to the group and have been doing alot of reading, but i havent seen anything about headaches. ive had daily headaches for about 6 yrs now. drs have done CAT scans, MRI's and they say they are tension headaches. ive tried anti depressants, anxiety meds, painkillers, stretching exercises, etc. the only thing that works is excedrin.........LOTS of it! i started out only taking two at a time, but over time you build an immunity to it and have to increase the dosage. i dont know what else to try. ive eliminated as much stress in my life as i can, but some things you just have to deal with. any ideas or suggestions would be greatly welcomed and i am to the point that i will try just about anything!..............beth

[Guest guest]

Welllllllllll hon, you need to get yourself on a complete lifestyle changing program if you haven't already.

 

No one expects you to do it all in a day. The first place to begin is with diet. Check out my CD lecture on this and you'll have a good place to start.

 

Next you'll need to start some kind of exercise regimen. I don't care if you start by lifting one finger a day and then raise an additional finger on subsequent days, you need to begin somewhere. Gradients are the key here. The first time I started "Running" I was 52 years old, I ran 200 yards and fell over exhausted. I can now run 10 miles without stopping. The key here is to start somewhere even if it's only a little.

 

Sooooooooo.

 

1. Get the education you need from my lectures, this list, and other sources.

2. Start making your lifestyle changes with your diet switching over to 100% organic.

3. Start your exercise program.

4. Start an herbal Cleansing program and do some serious cleansing

 

You can do this. You truly can.

 

In Health, Freedom, and Love,

 

Doc

 

Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc

 

-

beth thunborg

herbal remedies

Monday, June 26, 2006 9:27 PM

Re: Herbal Remedies - headaches

 

 

i understand this about the excedrin, thats why i want to find other things to try. i was told about a year ago that i was low on potassium, and i read up on it and started taking a womens multi vitamin, and extra potassium, magnesium and calcium, and a B-complex. i took them daily for about 2 months. i did read somewhere that this guy that had headaches took massive amounts of the potassium, and it helped, but im just not sure how much to really take. but after the two months, i still had the headaches. there HAS been alot of stress in my life, physical abuse, etc as a child and a few rough times as an adult, but i think i handle that pretty well. theres some extra stuff going on right now and i started seeing a new dr. hes giving me buspar and im going to have blood drawn monday after fasting, he said just to make sure everything looks good. ive gotten alot of good ideas from this board, but now i need to find a place to go shopping for herbs. im in the sticks, so ill have to see whats around here. as far as the hormones, i had a hysterectomy 3 yrs ago, but they left my ovaries. "Dr. Ian Shillington" <DocShillington wrote:

 

 

Dear Beth,

Excedrin will eventually destroy your Liver, and when that happens, welcome to Cancer.

Headaches are usually caused by the following, in their order of importance.

1. Bowel Problems. (Clogged, sluggish, and constipated bowels)

2 Potassium / Salt imbalances resulting in Calcium and Magnesium deficiencies. The usual missing ingredient or lowest ingredient is usually the Potassium.

3. Hormonal Imbalances due to things being taken into the body that shouldn't be there - Coffee, Chocolate, Alcohol, Drugs, Commercial Meats loaded full of Hormones, Steroids, and Antibiotics.

4. Mental Reasons. Physical Trauma in the past can be a major mental cause behind headaches. These would include: Operations, Accidents, Rape, Spousal Abuse, and Drug Abuse.

and on and on...

Usually, 80% of my clients would get their headaches handled by the time we made it through #3.

Hope this helps.

In Health, Freedom, and Love,

Doc

 

Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc

 

-

beth

herbal remedies

Saturday, June 24, 2006 9:04 PM

Herbal Remedies - headaches

 

 

im new to the group and have been doing alot of reading, but i havent seen anything about headaches. ive had daily headaches for about 6 yrs now. drs have done CAT scans, MRI's and they say they are tension headaches. ive tried anti depressants, anxiety meds, painkillers, stretching exercises, etc. the only thing that works is excedrin.........LOTS of it! i started out only taking two at a time, but over time you build an immunity to it and have to increase the dosage. i dont know what else to try. ive eliminated as much stress in my life as i can, but some things you just have to deal with. any ideas or suggestions would be greatly welcomed and i am to the point that i will try just about anything!..............beth

 

 

 

How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates.

[Guest guest]

You're very welcome.

I wish you all success in handling them.

In Health, Freedom, and Love,

Doc

 

Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc

 

-

Tori

herbal remedies

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 11:18 AM

Herbal Remedies - Re: headaches

 

 

Yes, I agree with you 100%, I am masking the underlying problem. I'm just so happy to be rid of the pain that I don't really think about it. I know that my headaches are much worse when I'm eating too many starchy carbs and sugars, also MSG, and when I'm under stress. I've been eating only organic vegetarian diet lately and am feeling so much better. I have only had 2 headaches the past few weeks.I also think my bed may play a part. My mattress is too firm and I often wake up stiff and feeling unrested.I appreciate your help!Tori

[Guest guest]

the bed thing makes sense. ive slept on a soft sided waterbed for years and switched to a regular, firm bed about a month ago and even tho it took alot of getting used to, i dont have as many body aches like i did. i had hoped it would help with the headaches, but didnt......but i do feel better everywhere else!Tori <vcotten wrote: Yes, I agree with you 100%, I am masking the underlying problem. I'm just so happy to be rid of the pain that I don't really think about it. I know that my headaches are much worse when I'm eating too many starchy carbs

and sugars, also MSG, and when I'm under stress. I've been eating only organic vegetarian diet lately and am feeling so much better. I have only had 2 headaches the past few weeks.I also think my bed may play a part. My mattress is too firm and I often wake up stiff and feeling unrested.I appreciate your help!Tori

Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail Beta.

[Guest guest]

is there much difference between organic apple cider vinegar and what you can get at the grocery store? "Dr. Ian Shillington" <DocShillington wrote: Dear Pam, Here is an easy way to tell if it's Potassium or not. Whup up a batch of simple Body Balance + (old Panther Piss Remedy) without the Black Walnut Hulls. You can do this by: 1. 8 oz of Black Strap Molasses. 2. 8 oz of Organic Apple Cider Vinegar. Mix the two of these together and the next time you get a headache, immediately take 2 tablespoons of this mixture. I've had people with Potassium deficiencies have a headache disappear in 5 seconds with this remedy. Try it. If you like the remedy, eventually go whole hog and add the Black Walnut Hull Tincture to this remedy, which makes it far more effective and assimilable. In Health, Freedom, and Love, Doc Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc - Pam Anderson herbal remedies Monday, June 26, 2006 7:50 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - headaches Hello, My DD suffers from

migraines/headaches since early childhood. We eat a pretty balanced diet but I have to wonder about the potassium/salt thing. I know part of it is stress, she is my little perfectionist! (she's 19 now). She has always thought if you can't do it right don't do it at all or even try! One thing I found that works at least for awhile is a headache remedy I make for her, works best if done in a darkened room, but would at least help her through the school day. (couldn't go through the nurse, whose remedy for migraines was tums!). It is a mixture of Lavender, Geranium, Rosewood and Peppermint EO's in Almond oil. My "other" daughter used the same thing for her asthma. DD would rub it into her temples and then cup her hands over her mouth and nose and breath deeply. It would help her relax. The "other" daughter would just put it on her hands and breath deeply, stopped an asthma attack a few times. Pam On 6/26/06, Dr. Ian Shillington <DocShillington wrote: Dear Beth, Excedrin will eventually destroy your Liver, and when that happens, welcome to Cancer. Headaches are usually caused by the following, in their order of importance. 1. Bowel Problems. (Clogged, sluggish, and constipated bowels) 2 Potassium / Salt imbalances resulting in

Calcium and Magnesium deficiencies. The usual missing ingredient or lowest ingredient is usually the Potassium. 3. Hormonal Imbalances due to things being taken into the body that shouldn't be there - Coffee, Chocolate, Alcohol, Drugs, Commercial Meats loaded full of Hormones, Steroids, and Antibiotics. 4. Mental Reasons. Physical Trauma in the past can be a major mental cause behind headaches. These would include: Operations, Accidents, Rape, Spousal Abuse, and Drug Abuse. and on and on... Usually, 80% of my clients would get their headaches handled by the time we made it through #3. Hope this helps. In Health, Freedom, and Love, Doc Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc - beth herbal remedies Saturday,

June 24, 2006 9:04 PM Herbal Remedies - headaches im new to the group and have been doing alot of reading, but i havent seen anything about headaches. ive had daily headaches for about 6 yrs now. drs have done CAT scans, MRI's and they say they are tension headaches. ive tried anti depressants, anxiety meds, painkillers, stretching exercises, etc. the only thing that works is excedrin.........LOTS of it! i started out only taking two at a time, but over time you build an immunity to it and have to increase the dosage. i dont know what else to try. ive eliminated as much stress in my life as i can, but some things you just have to deal with. any ideas or suggestions would be greatly welcomed and i am to the point that i will try just about anything!..............beth

Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail Beta.