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[Guest guest]

I'm sure that most CM

practitioners will quite soon learn that CM provides them with insight

to understand, often quite easily, a wide range of problems and

medical issues that biomedicine is very fuzzy about, or even has no

conceptual tools to deal with.

On the other hand, I think it's important to acknowledge that

biomedicine can also be a very powerful form of medicine. I have

patients who almost undoubtedly would not be alive but for the

biomedical care they have received.

 

>>>>>Just some thoughts on this i heard in Taiwan. A very famous professor

addressing this point told me that CM is used mostly in patients that WM does

not conceder to be sick (although certainly in Taiwan you can see very ill

patients treated as well). He points out that CM has a very important place in

functional like cases that often are not considered sickness in WM. He was also

making the case that often CM is not as predictably effective in condition when

WM conceders the patient to be sick.In Taiwan they now have two (or more I am

not sure) programs where students go to school for 8 years to be qualified both

in CM and WM. I gave a talk at the Taipei program and their the head of the CM

department stated that he believes that the future mutual contribution of WM and

CM will improve CM practice. He did not comment on WM practice

Alon

 

 

[Guest guest]

This is probably a Catch 22 situation. To enable to CM community to

take charge of research along the lines that are relevant to its own

concerns, momentum and resources are needed before we can expect

funding, private or otherwise.

 

`>>>>While i was not the first author of my menopause study, I did the entire

design. It is possible to find MDs that understand CM at least to the extent of

clinical syndromes and uniqueness

Alon

 

 

[Guest guest]

I thought you were headed to Arid-zona?

 

Don Quai

 

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peacefulglow

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Sunday, January 04, 2004 10:19 PM

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Ummm actually, yes. The university I was

 

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Yep leaving Tuesday morning if the airport isn't snowed under. Can't

wait!!!!

herbal remedies , " Don Quai "

<mysticalherbalist> wrote:

> I thought you were headed to Arid-zona?

>

> Don Quai

> -

> peacefulglow

> herbal remedies

> Sunday, January 04, 2004 10:19 PM

> [herbal remedies] (unknown)

>

>

> Ummm actually, yes. The university I was

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Aw, do enjoy the sun and warmth for me will ya? Say hello to the state I have come to truly love.

 

Don Quai

And if you see my daughter tell her to email her dad once in a while!!! LOL

 

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Monday, January 05, 2004 1:28 AM

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Will do!

herbal remedies , " Don Quai "

<mysticalherbalist> wrote:

> Aw, do enjoy the sun and warmth for me will ya? Say hello to the

state I

> have come to truly love.

>

> Don Quai

> And if you see my daughter tell her to email her dad once in a

while!!! LOL

> -

> peacefulglow

> herbal remedies

> Monday, January 05, 2004 1:28 AM

> [herbal remedies] Re: (unknown)

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>

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Can't

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[Guest guest]

I am surprised that for every 2 or 3 posts that someone makes on this site,

there is at least one post to correct that person - not to live in a place where

they use water from the aquifers, or to quickly get their animal treated, or to

ask or not ask questions from their practioner. Can't we just let each other be

and trust that other people are using their conscience in their actions? Must

we correct each other here too?

 

Cat is doing what she feels she can or wants. Who or why argue with that?

Let's just let her be and give her whatever information we feel can help her.

This is what this is for, not for telling people what to do.

 

Twyla Hoodah <twylahoodah wrote:

Hi Victoria...after reading your post here, I just had to thank you so much for

what you do and for every effort you put into this site...I cannot thank you

enough for your generosity and insight!!

Twyla Hoodah, A.P.

 

victoria_dragon <victoria_dragon wrote:

> There is a lot of good stuff on this list which is why I am still

here. My

> question is why do you feel you have to use this means to see if

you have a good

> acupuncturist or the correct treatment?

 

This is not the impression I got in Cat's case at all. I got the

impression of someone who is fascinated by TCM, who has seen it work

very well in her life, and who wants to learn all she can about the

subject. Hers are the type of questions asked by people who may very

well end up working in the field of TCM in some capacity. If not

actually a healer or acupunctulist or massage therapist or TCM

dietician, etc., someone who writes about the subject or is involved

with TCM or alternative healing in some other way.

 

Think of someone holding an object in her hands who turns the object

over and over, examining it from every possible angle in order to

understand it thoroughly. These are the type of questions Cat (and

others) have asked.

 

In some cases people do come on the list for reassurance that not

only are their healers doing the correct thing but that TCM does

indeed work. And this is OK by me. One thing that motivated my

setting up this list was the realization that people who have some

familiarity with TCM are more likely to consult a TCM healer.

 

I originally set up Chinese Traditional Medicine so that friends and relatives in

other parts of the country could learn about TCM. That was the

original purpose of the group. In time not only did other people who

wished to learn about TCM joined, TCM students and professionals

began to join. The list began not only to be a place where students

could review and learn more but professionals could share

information. And I'm very glad of this. It's been a win-win-win

situation for all involved.

 

I want to remind readers that I am not a professional TCM healer. I'm

a person who had some very severe health problems who got a lot of

healing from TCM, and who decided that others needed access to

information about TCM. As I've said before on here, one of the things

that impressed me the most - in addition to the big improvement in 3

weeks after starting on the herbs - was the fact that so many of the

symptoms I had which had puzzled Western allopathic doctors were

spelled out in TCM. It was like, " Oh, that's just Kidney Yang

Deficiency. It's been known about for centuries. No big deal. And

here's how it's corrected. " The corrections worked, and worked well!

I also was very impressed by the fact that had I known TCM basics, I

could have gotten things from the local supermarket that would have

helped and alleviated some of my suffering.

 

I'm a person who is by nature and by training an engineer (Biological

Agricultural Engineering). See the problem, analyze the problem,

solve the problem - or at least improve things. I'm also a published

writer. In addition, I once taught in the Continuing Ed department

of a community college. I have a talent for explaining medical,

technical, and scientific information to people who do not have

backgrounds in those areas. That's my major contribution. I also have

talents for recognizing talent in others and for bringing people with

other talents together. And I know how people learn, and often

recognize what needs to be stressed and repeated. I know how to lay a

foundation. A very strong, stable foundation.(grin)

 

I do NOT have clinical experience as a healer - aside from my own

health problems. This list would be a lot less than it is without

the professionals and students who do have this knowledge and

understanding. It also would be less without those new to TCM asking

questions.

 

When I taught at a community college, at the end of every quarter,

the students got to grade the instructors. I'll admit to having very

mixed feelings about this. I mean I'm the one who went to school to

learn all that stuff! But, I also realized that those reports could

be very, very helpful to me. I began to learn how to be an even more

effective teacher than I had been. Often it involved no more than

wording something a little differently or explaining the first night

exactly what students would and would not get from the course.

 

I was very fortunate in that the TCM herbalist I saw was more than

happy to answer all my questions. And, there was no language barrier

in our case. But, as willing as he was to answer my many questions,

there was no way he could have answered everything I wanted to ask.

Time simply would not allow it. Fortunately, he also sold TCM books

that were geared to a wide range of depth. I remember that he seemed

quite pleased by the books I chose, passing up the more simple ones

for the more meaty ones. In time I moved beyond that and began to

order TCM books like Maciocia's through the local library. If the

books were good - like Marciocia's are - I would buy my own copy.

Eventually I set up this list. I would have loved to have had a

place like this list back when I was first beginning to learn. A

place where I could have asked questions of a lot of different

people. You would have heard the same questions from me that you hear

from Cat and others.

 

I also want to mention that Cat has so much respect for her

acupunturist that she fears the possibility of alienating her in any

way and no longer being able to get that help. There also is a

language barrier in this case, and it can be very frustrating for

both parties struggling to make themselves understood to each other.

Especially when it comes to technical information.

 

The clients who ask questions and learn all they can - not only from

the healer but also on their own - usually have the best prognosis

when it comes to their healings.

 

Victoria

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

At 07:37 AM 1/9/2004, you wrote:

> Can't we just let each other be and trust that other people are using

> their conscience in their actions?

 

I loved reading this. It's clear that the more we can be authentic then

the sooner that we can deal with or reverse a dangerous condition in the

body. Emotions are clearly tricky things, and Dr. Hamer,

http://www.newmedicine.ca says that they are everything in the healing

process. They're not just side posts on the highway, they are the highway.

 

Dr. Hamer is saying that the diagnosis is as much a part of the cancer as

the cancer, and as soon as a cancer is diagnosed, it creates a secondary

lesion which must be treated. So the first lesion, which brings up the

cancer diagnosis still needs treatment, but the second one, is also there

now. Not surprising that the " next " cancer that is normally diagnosed

after breast cancer is lung cancer. After assimilating Dr. Hamer's work,

it should give epiphanies to those that incorporate TCM into their work

about the role of the metal element in healing and particularly in how it

is injured during a " cancer " treatment, as implied by Sunny's experience.

 

Beingness and particularly being very clear, are important parts of

healing, and as practitioners we should use these missing cues to appraise

the clients need for reinforcements. I think we dont go far enough in

giving the client tools that let them BE in their process deeply. So,

we're not effective, because we're not dealing with the true roots. What's

particularly nice about TCM, is that the clues are so obvious and

tangible. Incorporating some of the more western uses of TCM 5 element,

and the emotions particularly, we CAN know, and be SURE. This is one of

the reasons why I see a definitely place for the use of homeopathy to be

used alongside TCM. When the anger is gone, it's gone, when using

homeopathy. Now, the wood chi is clear. Etc, etc....

 

being and becoming,

Moe

[Guest guest]

Twyla Hoodah wrote:

>Hi Victoria...after reading your post here, I just had to thank you so much for

what you do and for every effort you put into this site...I cannot thank you

enough for your generosity and insight!!

 

I totally agree. Victoria - Bless you hugely for taking the time to set up this

site and to pour so much of your personal energy into this wonderful space.

You write wonderfully thorough explanations. Indeed this has been a welath of

information for me. Cat

 

^. .^ ~

[Guest guest]

jamie farris wrote:

>Can't we just let each other be and trust that other people are using their

conscience in their actions?

 

That is an excellent thought ... for myself I try to take what fits for me, am

grateful that people take the time to write, but know that I can't use

everything all the time, because each of us is a little different. And if I

chose one piece of advice and have to leave something else, no offense intended

but I do appreciate all of the time and energy everyone puts into generously

sharing what each one knows. Cheers, Cat

 

^. .^ ~

[Guest guest]

Hi

I don´t know the Marcel Vogel crystals can you

explain?

Love Phyll

--- Taylor <emwtaylor wrote:

> Hi Everyone,

>

> A few years ago, I was fortunate enough to be

> introduced to the

> Marcel Vogel crystals and was trained in their use.

> Since then I've

> been collecting the crystals and a beautiful one

> arrived in the mail

> yesterday. It's now sitting on my windowsill

> soaking up sun and

> moonlight. They are wonderful to use in healing.

>

> Anyway, my 6 year old granddaughter was attracted to

> one of my

> smaller Vogel wands so I gave it to her. I

> instructed her in it's

> use and how to keep it nice. She has a small bag

> she keeps it in and

> my daughter tells me she takes it out whenever her

> leg hurts to help

> heal her leg (she takes dancing and sometimes that

> and growing pains

> hurt her legs).

>

> Of course, I'm proud Nana.

>

> Just thought I'd share.

>

> in California

>

>

 

 

=====

 

phyll

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

I guess I cannot help you, but i have had several tooth problem resolved with

herb/qikung/acup tx to cool and resolve stomach heat, and the points differed

for each person. But that is the way of this method.

 

glennvtiu <glennvtiu wrote:Hi! I am doing my thesis on the use of

acupuncture in dental

procedures, and am looking for a dentist practicing here in the

Philippines. Can someone help me?

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

merry meet,

have you tried and amber and jet necklace

[Guest guest]

I have one peice of amber i can work with but i will have to find some jet. Do

you know a good place to buy some online or in US? Thanks

 

liz

 

earthstones wrote:

 

merry meet,

have you tried and amber and jet necklace

 

 

 

files are online at Http://www.solarraven.com/crystal-entry.html

files, photos, and message archives can be found At:

 

, photos, and message archives can be found At:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

and i reackon smokey quartz goes with purple beautifully.

 

Eva

[Guest guest]

" Lumber Jack " <lumberjack98_28166 wrote:

 

> I have an inquiry from a friend of mine I was hoping someone could

> help me with...... I appreciate any input I can get.

>

> In chinese herbal medicine, what is recommended for metabolism?

>

> I see Ma Huang a lot - but isn't that what ephedrine is derived

> from?

 

Yes it is, but in chines medicine it's mostly used for respiratory

problems - congestion, asthma. Even though irresponsible

manufacturers have sold it as a weight loss aid, it's dangerous to do

so.

 

In chinese medicine, one herb is seldom used by itself. As there can

be several different reasons for weight imbalance, your friend needs

to see a health practioner to be prescribed the correct one for his

state.

 

sue

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

It's not a complete report Jasmina. You'll notice they don't say what other water sources were tested or what any other results are. We already know that natural spring water is better than distilled. But how many NATURAL springs are left that aren't polluted or messed with?

 

Love,

 

Zeb

 

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Jasmina Alisic

herbal remedies

Monday, May 03, 2004 11:31 AM

Herbal Remedies - (unknown)

 

 

 

 

 

 

I AM CONFUSED NOW. DOC WE NEED YOUR COMENT ON THIS

JASMINA

Finally, Physical Proof that Distilled Water is Inferior

 

 

 

 

Dr. Masaru Emoto, a visionary researcher from Japan received certification from the Open International University as a Doctor of Alternative Medicine. Subsequently he was introduced to the concept of micro cluster water in the US and Magnetic Resonance Analysis technology. The quest thus began to discover the mystery of water.

He undertook extensive research of water around the planet not so much as a scientific researcher but more from the perspective of an original thinker. At length he realized that it was in the frozen crystal form that water showed us its true nature.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Distilled Water

Water from a pure source

Dr Emoto began by studying the crystallization process of water It all started in 1994 when he took samples of water from various sources, froze a few droplets, examined them under a dark field microscope and photographed them. He photographed the crystal formations produced by water as it passes from liquid into freezing state.

It is like taking a snapshot of the water at that moment in time. He quickly realized that the crystals that formed from water depended highly on the natural health of the water. In other words, water from natural springs, healing water sources etc, formed beautiful and complex crystalline geometries - like snowflakes.

Water that had been distilled, polluted or passed through consumption had lost its inner order. This leads to the realization that natural healthy water carries an 'inner order' defining its nature and properties.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dr. Masaru Emoto

Article compiled from 3 Web sites:

 

 

Dr. Mercola's Comment:

In April I attended the SkaSys lecture by Dr. Hans Lechner. This amazing technology allows one to successfully harness consciousness as a diagnostic and therapeutic tool.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dr. Lechner shared detailed of his recent meeting with Dr. Emoto and it became clear that this technology could clearly demonstrate the danger of distilled water at a clear and easily seen level.

Although it is controversial I am firmly convinced that distilled water is harmful to your health.

One of the major foundational reasons is that distilled water is highly acidic. Most of us are far too acidic already and the last thing we need to be drinking is a fluid that will make us even more acidic.

Distilled water is alleged to be beneficial due to its lack of contaminants. Well, many of the devices that distill water are made of metal and will actually add certain toxic metals like nickel back to the water, which actually worsens health.

Since distilled water is like a vacuum without any minerals, it will actually leach beneficial minerals from your body to balance it out. While this maybe beneficial for a short period during some sort of detoxification regimen, this is usually highly counter productive in the long run.

Then there is the physics of the water. Water is structured and when it is distilled the structure becomes profoundly disturbed as you can see by the pictures above.

It is possible to restructure the water by putting it in a clear glass container, adding a few minerals and leaving it out in the sunshine for a day. This will help to restore the normal beneficial structure that water should have to promote health.

I believe it was the Asians who popularized the saying that one picture is worth a thousand words, so please enjoy the pictures which will help you appreciate the difference between natural spring water and distilled water.Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

No need to apologize Diana - glad you had a great weekend!

 

DonnaDiana <joseanddiana wrote:

Sorry guys...not too many posts this weekend.my hubby and I went out on saturday with another couple to yard sales, and being newleyweds, we need some help. So we found so many things to decorate our little home! We got lots of cool art, some nice things for the kitchen and stuff...it was fun!Then Sunday we took my mom out for dinner, it being her birthday today!At any rate, it was another busy weekend...I am looking forward to going away this coming weekend!Diana

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[Guest guest]

I was wondering about that myself!

 

 

-

Jasmina Alisic

herbal remedies

Wednesday, May 26, 2004 12:50 PM

Herbal Remedies - (unknown)

 

Did anybody tried products from Melaleuca.com. I would like to know how safe are they. Friend of mine told me that she loves them, and they are natural with tea tree oil. But I would like you opinions also.

Regards

JasminaFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

Hello Jasmina,

 

I have tried their products and did so for about 7 years. I like their products in that they were the best I could find until I found Doc. My body always felt better using them etc. My only problem with them is that they are a multi level marketing group. That they do not do everything 100% organic if at all and that they do not list the quantities of everything they use not do they list the ingredients where they can be found easily.

 

I have found Terressentials far superior to them though. So they are definitely a step in the right direction for some and a step back for others.

 

The reason I stopped using them is because I could not find out what the ingredients and what amounts of ingredients they used in what formulas (unless they were vitamins) easily and to this day do not know what they use in their body soaps. They base everything off of the Tea Tree Oil products which is good. That's their winning point. I haven't bought from them in over 6 months so haven't really looked into it any further.

 

Hope that helps.

 

Love,

 

Zeb

 

-

Jasmina Alisic

herbal remedies

Wednesday, May 26, 2004 1:50 PM

Herbal Remedies - (unknown)

 

Did anybody tried products from Melaleuca.com. I would like to know how safe are they. Friend of mine told me that she loves them, and they are natural with tea tree oil. But I would like you opinions also.

Regards

JasminaFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

Thank you Zeb

I requested from them to e-mail me labels that list all ingrediants before I decide to buy anything.

Regards

Jasminazeb wrote:

 

Hello Jasmina,

 

I have tried their products and did so for about 7 years. I like their products in that they were the best I could find until I found Doc. My body always felt better using them etc. My only problem with them is that they are a multi level marketing group. That they do not do everything 100% organic if at all and that they do not list the quantities of everything they use not do they list the ingredients where they can be found easily.

 

I have found Terressentials far superior to them though. So they are definitely a step in the right direction for some and a step back for others.

 

The reason I stopped using them is because I could not find out what the ingredients and what amounts of ingredients they used in what formulas (unless they were vitamins) easily and to this day do not know what they use in their body soaps. They base everything off of the Tea Tree Oil products which is good. That's their winning point. I haven't bought from them in over 6 months so haven't really looked into it any further.

 

Hope that helps.

 

Love,

 

Zeb

 

-

Jasmina Alisic

herbal remedies

Wednesday, May 26, 2004 1:50 PM

Herbal Remedies - (unknown)

 

Did anybody tried products from Melaleuca.com. I would like to know how safe are they. Friend of mine told me that she loves them, and they are natural with tea tree oil. But I would like you opinions also.

Regards

JasminaFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of

the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

AWESOME!

 

Zeb

 

 

Thank you Zeb

I requested from them to e-mail me labels that list all ingrediants before I decide to buy anything.

Regards

Jasmina

[Guest guest]

MLM and not organic.

At one time, was fairly ethical 'for a Network Marketing company', but have gone down hill since inception.

They've never been certified organic.

Love,

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554DocShillington

 

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Jasmina Alisic

herbal remedies

Wednesday, May 26, 2004 1:50 PM

Herbal Remedies - (unknown)

 

Did anybody tried products from Melaleuca.com. I would like to know how safe are they. Friend of mine told me that she loves them, and they are natural with tea tree oil. But I would like you opinions also.

Regards

Jasmina

[Guest guest]

I have experience with Mela-Crappa and I can tell you "Run, don't walk."

-Shelby

 

Doc Shillington [DocShillington]Thursday, May 27, 2004 8:57 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - (unknown)

MLM and not organic.

At one time, was fairly ethical 'for a Network Marketing company', but have gone down hill since inception.

They've never been certified organic.

Love,

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554DocShillington

 

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Jasmina Alisic

herbal remedies

Wednesday, May 26, 2004 1:50 PM

Herbal Remedies - (unknown)

 

Did anybody tried products from Melaleuca.com. I would like to know how safe are they. Friend of mine told me that she loves them, and they are natural with tea tree oil. But I would like you opinions also.

Regards

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Thanks - I am also going on the vinegar one - much safer to clean with and cheaper!

 

Have a great weekend - weren't you going somewhere to sell your items?

 

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DonnaDiana <joseanddiana wrote:

Hey there, I did a search and found this company that makes organic herbal supplements :)Hope this helps, also http://www.organichope.com/english/dermatitis.html

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