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[Guest guest]

I think I'm still trying to find out what I want to be when I grow up.

Speaking as a new grandfather, I can assure you that growing up isn't a

function of time.

 

I grew up in an airline family, so I wanted to be an aeronautical engineer

as a kid. At least I did until I found out about all the math.

Professionally, Ive been a mechanic, nursing assistant, retail clerk and

manager, emergency medical technician. As an amateur, I've been a geologist,

archaeologist, botanist, and an assortment of other things.

 

Currently, I'm working as a computer printing consultant while completing my

education as a massage therapist and independently studying the growing and

use of herbs. I don't know if my body will permit me to pursue massage

therapy full-time or not, but the trip's been well worth it.

 

It's been an interesting journey. I wonder what's next.....

 

It's certain

 

> " diane DI " <redtail29

>

>

> (unknown)

>Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:12:33 -0000

>

>Interesting.... I wanted to be a cowboy or a solider until about 10

>then I wanted to be a gym teacher... Huh didnt get to be any of them.

>Ended up being an Radiographer (Xray tech).

>Diane

>

 

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>I find the carrot somment on the last thread interesting. Are there any

>other comments you can add (i.e. carrots downward energy can promote

>bedwetting)?

 

I'll be on the lookout for any other foods with downward energy that can promote

bedwetting.

 

It's ok to give the kids carrots at lunch. Just not at supper which is too

close to bedtime.

 

Victoria

 

 

 

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> " victoria_dragon " <victoria_dragon

>Chinese Traditional Medicine

>Chinese Traditional Medicine

>Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] (unknown)

>Thu, 11 May 2000 16:17:32 -0700

>

>

> >I find the carrot somment on the last thread interesting. Are there any

> >other comments you can add (i.e. carrots downward energy can promote

> >bedwetting)?

>

>I'll be on the lookout for any other foods with downward energy that can

>promote bedwetting.

>

>It's ok to give the kids carrots at lunch. Just not at supper which is too

>close to bedtime.

>

>Victoria

>

>

>

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THank you. I am in the process of training my son and a few nights before

this was posted about I gave him carrots at supper and he did wet that

night.Now I know.

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Luke,

 

I have read Racketeering in Medicine (some many years ago). Found it

interesting.

 

I personally have not had too much problem with codes, insurance

reimbursements, etc. I find that some plans (Cigna for one) pay pretty well.

I don't have a problem using a code for " migraine " instead of " liver yang

rising. " It is just not a big deal in my life. Of course, American Specialty

Health Plans has horrible reimbursements and none of us should join because

it harms everyone.

 

Luke, would you mind terribly checking your emails for spelling and so on?

What is " prescend " in your last message? " American " was misspelled too. I

like what you have to say, but sometimes your presentation seems a little --

rushed? -- and therefore not as pleasant to read.

 

Thank you.

 

Julie

[Guest guest]

Welcome, Alane. Sounds like you have quite the emotional (and special) job!

The group is great and like you, I read most of the messages at work and

don't respond a lot but I do read them and learn. Chris has given us the

opportunity to purchase fine product, great prices and if only she could

bottle her energy and sell that, I'd be all set!

[Guest guest]

>

> I want to ask if any of you know something about Anodea Judith.I

> am very impressed by her book Eastern Body,Western

> Mind and I want to get in touch with her,i would like

> to attend some classes or workshops.

 

Welcome to the list, Antonela,

 

Anodea Judith has a website and just recently sent a schedule of her

chakra workshops which I will pass on to the whole list. I've

attended a class with her at the Open Center in NYC years ago that was

great!

 

Many blessings,

MichelleH

 

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We hope to see you and your chakras on the Rainbow Bridge in 2001!

 

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(800) 603-3117 (303) 245-4800

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Omega Institute (800) 944-1001

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selene.

SANTA CRUZ , CA June 15-17: Spirit Moving: Journeys into Trance &

Ritual (831) 440-0645

BEN LOMOND, CA July 2-8: Art and Spirit, Quaker Center, (831)

336-8333 or mail

 

NINI GRIDLEY (fullspectrum)

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[Guest guest]

Thank you very much for this information,Michelle.It's

great and I'll definitelly get in touch

--- Michelle Hughes <lunarmm wrote:

> >

> > I want to ask if any of you know something about

> Anodea Judith.I

> > am very impressed by her book Eastern Body,Western

> > Mind and I want to get in touch with her,i would

> like

> > to attend some classes or workshops.

>

> Welcome to the list, Antonela,

>

> Anodea Judith has a website and just recently sent a

> schedule of her

> chakra workshops which I will pass on to the whole

> list. I've

> attended a class with her at the Open Center in NYC

> years ago that was

> great!

>

> Many blessings,

> MichelleH

>

> *******************************************

> 2001 chakra workshops

> For more info, go to http://www.sacredcenters.com

> ***************************************

>

> Happy New Year!

>

> COSTA RICA!! For adventurous souls who can move on

> short notice,

> there is still time to register for a unique and

> exciting chakra

> experience in Costa Rica, February 3-10, 2001. This

> weeklong workshop

> includes, not only chakra yoga and deep

> self-inquiry, but white-water

> rafting, scenic nature tours to volcanoes and

> waterfalls, and flying

> through the rainforest canopy (in a harness!), as

> well as being held

> in beautiful surroundings in the mountains in the

> tropical

> countryside. The weather is warm and dry, yet still

> lush from the

> recent rainy season. For more details, call Omega

> Institute at the

> number below. There are still a few places left,

> but if you are too

> late for this year, it will happen again next year,

> January 26 -

> February 3, 2002.

>

> CERTIFICATION PROGRAM!! Shortly, you will receive

> notice of our all

> new Certification Program, created in response to

> the many students

> who have asked for further training. As soon as the

> web pages

> describing the details are complete, we will let you

> know via this

> list. Beyond that, the list will remain relatively

> quiet, in respect

> for crowded inboxes and too much spam.

>

> We hope to see you and your chakras on the Rainbow

> Bridge in 2001!

>

> Bright Blessings,

> Anodea Judith

> http://www.sacredcenters.com

>

> WORKSHOPS WITH ANODEA JUDITH.

> (anodea)

> (to register, call the numbers listed below for the

> individual

> workshops!)

>

> COSTA RICA February 3-10: 7-Day Intensive, Omega

> Institute

> (800)944-1001

> TORONTO, ONTARIO February 27: Evening Workshop,

> Baha’i Center

> (416) 924-3780

> LENOX, MA March 1-4: Introductory Chakra

> Weekend, Kripalu Yoga

> Center (800) 741-7353

> RYE, NY March 5-9: Principles of Mind-Body

> Therapy, Wainwright

> House (914) 967-6080

> BOULDER, CO April 20-22: Introductory Chakra

> Weekend, Naropa

> Institute

> (800) 603-3117 (303) 245-4800

> RHINEBECK, NY June 25-29: 5-Day Introductory

> Chakra Workshop,

> Omega Institute (800) 944-1001

> ARLINGTON, VA July 1-8: 7-Day Intermediate Chakra

> Intensive, Sun &

> Moon Yoga Studio

> (703) 525-9642

> LENOX, MA August 10-19: 9-Day Intermediate Chakra

> Intensive

> Kripalu Yoga Center

> (800) 741-7353 or (413) 448-3152 (taught

> with Selene Vega)

> BERN, SWITZERLAND August 27- September 9: Core

> Energetics

> Institute 031 333 11 77

> 8/27 - 9/1 General Audience 9/3 - 9/7

> Professional Training

> core.energetics

> NORTHERN CALIFORNIA October - April, Nine - Month

> Chakra Intensive

> (707) 823-8988

>

> Other recommended chakra related workshops:

>

> SELENE VEGA (selene)

> SANTA CRUZ, CA April - December: Nine-month

> Chakra Intensive

> (831) 440-0645 or

> selene.

> SANTA CRUZ , CA June 15-17: Spirit Moving:

> Journeys into Trance &

> Ritual (831) 440-0645

> BEN LOMOND, CA July 2-8: Art and Spirit, Quaker

> Center, (831)

> 336-8333 or mail

>

> NINI GRIDLEY (fullspectrum)

> NORFOLK, CT Feb. 27: Intro to the Chakras,

> Evening workshop,

> (860) 542-1111

> NORFOLK, CT March 6 - April 24: Full Spectrum

> Healing, (860)

> 542-1111

>

> ED LARK (EALark)

> SANTA ROSA, CA June 2-3: Chakras for Bodyworkers

> (707) 823-2727

>

>

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Ye. What we are discussing iswhat determines authority in medicine andhow individuals relate to that authority.

>>>>>Yes except that I would still state that CM has a strong Master Disciple tradition and at least at ACTCM for example, in the early 1980's the teachers continually commented that as students we should not challenge the information. And that it was considered extremely "impolite" to do so. When I did such questioning openly in China I was told very quietly that such questions should only be put privately at it is very "impolite" and "not done".

 

ah. Well...even if you find it and post it, Alon,it will not prove that questioning authority isnot a part of oriental culture, which is whatyou stated that provoked my response.

]>>>>I am referring to traditional

medical environment only

 

you can clarify whether or not you meant thatliterally or were simply exaggerating to makesome other point.

>>>>The only place I exaggerated is on the point of 100% cure rate, although I sure have a lot of "research" materiel from China that comes very close.

 

 

Maybe you should rethink your strategy of overstatingthings. Let me make this extremely clear.Your remark was a blatant racial slur. I find that sort of thing intolerable.

>>>>Well maybe your a victim of political correctness, but there was nothing racial about what I say. Differences in cultures are great and stating them is not bigotry, except here in the US perhaps.

Alon

[Guest guest]

Dear Pauline;

 

I think we may be talking about guilt or a perceived " wrong act " rather than

wickedness here.

 

JAT.

 

F

 

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I don't think that getting a period at any particular time would have

anything to do with morals. Pauline

 

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Was the dosage

listed below a daily dose?

 

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[davidfrierman]

Tuesday, July 24, 2001 2:11

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To:

 

 

(unknown)

 

Here is a

case history from a book I am helping my teacher to write on kidney disease

that may be of interest.

Case 2: Chang, a 59-year-old male cadre.

This patient’s first visit was on June 23,

1992. For the previous year he had been feeling heat rising from his

epigastrium, distention in his head, and dizziness. He had a red face, he was

irritable, and had palpitations. His tongue was red with a white, greasy

coating, and his pulse was slippery and wiry. A Western doctor diagnosed brain

arteriosclerosis. He was treated with Chinese and Western medication without

result. Dr. Chang found this patient irritable, anxious, and very easily

excited and angered. He often had flushing up and dizziness. Dr. Chang decided

to use bitter (taste) and cold (qi) to clear heat and cool blood. His

prescription consisted of:

Huanglian 10g

Huang qin 15g

dahuang 7g

shengdi 20g

maimendong 15g

chishao 15g

shihu 15g

yinchenhao 15g

pipaye 15g

gancao 10g

On the second visit, on July 2, 1992, this

patient had taken this prescription for eight days and the heat was much

reduced with his dizziness lessened. His tongue was red, with a thin white coat

and his pulse was wiry and slow. Dr. Chang modified the prescription was

follows:

Huanglian 10g

huangqin 15g

dahuang 7g

shengdi 20g

maimendong 15g

baishao 15g

shihu 15g

yinchenhao 15g

pipaye 15g

gancao 10g

zhike 15g

juhua 15g

sangye 15g

On the third visit, on July 10, this

patient had taken this modified prescription for six days. All his symptoms

were much improved, but he still had some slight attacks. Dr. Chang decided to

add some sedate yang herbs. The new prescription included:

Daizhishe 30g

huanglian 10g

haungqin 15g

dahuang 7g

muli 20g

zhenzhumu 30g

shengdi 20g

xuanshen 20g

longdancao 10g

huai niuxi 15g

shen gancao 10g

On the patient’s fourth visit, July 17, he

had taken this prescription for six days, and all his symptoms had disappeared.

But then, because of stress, they started to come back, but not as strongly as

before. Dr. Chang prescribed the following:

Huanglian 10g

haungqin 15g

dahuang 10g

taoren 15g

daizhishi 30g

zhenzhumu 30g

longdancao 10g

Zhi Zi (Gardeniae Jasminoidis, Fructus) 10g

mudanpi 15g

shengdi 20g

yinchenhao 15g

shen muli 20g

gancao 10g

maimendong 15g

The patient took this last formula for six

days and all his symptoms completely disappeared.

Dr. Chang believed that stirring of the

ministerial fire (xiang huo wang dong)

caused this patient’s dizziness. Different scholars have had different opinions

about the nature of this ministerial fire. Xian Ke Chao believed that

ministerial fire is stored in the kidney and is the same as life gate fire.

When there is insufficiency of liver-kidney yin, this ministerial fire can

become vacuity fire flaming upward in patterns such as hyperactive liver yang

or kidney effulgent fire with symptoms such as dizziness, headache, unclear

vision, irascibility, etc. The proper treatment strategy is to bring vacuity

fire back to the kidney.

Li Shi Zhen, in the other hand, thought

that ministerial fire was pericardium fire. He thought that since the heart

stores the spirit (shen) and is

the sovereign fire, the pericardium, being right next to the heart, stores the

ministerial fire. If this ministerial fire is out of control it is replete in

nature, and can cause palpitations, red face, irritability, and dizziness. Here

the treatment strategy must be to clear repletion heat.

Dr. Chang thought that both theories

applied in Chang’s case. Chang had both vacuous and replete fire, i.e.:

pericardium fire and kidney vacuity with yang rising. The treatment principle

had to include both supplementing yin and sedating yang, bringing the fire back

to the kidney and clearing pericardium fire.

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Sounds like a beautiful cat. i really dont know what

you can do to save him- someone else may- but what I

immediately thought of when I read your post was

Rescue Remedy would be great, to make him stress less

and more comfortable as he dies. Sometimes you just

have to do your best to make death as comfortable as

possible, and that is the most beautiful gift you

can give.

Did the vet give a name to the condition?

love

peela

--- mumofthree63 wrote:

> I have a big, beautiful Norweigan cat, Boogie, who

> it seems is dying.

> We had him to the emergency clinic & his bilirubin

> is off the page. A

> 3+ was the result of the test. His pee was bright

> orange, like B

> vitamins, but really concentrated. His weight has

> dropped down to 10

> lbs, and he is dehydrated, even though he's

> drinking. The vet says

> we're talking up in the thousand dollar mark to save

> his life, and he

> also found a mass in the liver area. Boogie won't

> eat, and we have

> been force feeding him through a syringe. I did a

> search & found that

> even with vet care, he needs to be force fed, or

> have a feeding tube

> inserted for 7 weeks. We spent 100.00 to have him

> looked at, and no

> way can we afford aggressive treatments for him. We

> have started him

> on milk thistle, spirulina, hawthorne, CoQ10, and

> aerobic oxygen. I

> do have him segregated from the other animals, his

> own food, water, &

> litter pan, so I can keep an eye on what he's doing.

> He has not

> voided either way, bowels or urine now for 3 days

> and this concerns

> me. No longer does he purr, and he shrinks back when

> touched.

>

> I was shocked at the rapid deterioration with his

> condition. Boogie

> has a double coat, so it was not so obvious that

> he'd lost weight.

> The vet says that with this illness, it happens so

> rapidly, that you

> tend not to notice, and only two days before this he

> seemed normal.

>

> Has anyone ever dealt with this? Is there something

> else I could use

> on him? I can afford herbs & supplements, but not

> much over a couple

> of hundred dollars. I don't know what else to do...

> I've thought of

> using Rescue Remedy, but my husband is not convinced

> that there's

> anything to validate using it, in other words he

> thinks this stuff is

> over hyped.

>

> We don't want to lose this guy. He is our family's

> Christmas day

> kitty. Just showed up on our porch 3 years ago. We

> also easily turned

> him into an indoor cat, and he takes care of Bella,

> our elderly

> rescued cat. It's tough having a big heart & a small

> paycheque when

> you have animals that you love so much... Any

> suggestions

> appreciated...

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

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The only thing I can suggest is Essiac. You can give it orally - if nothing esle it should ease his pain. Depending on whether or not any major organs are shutting down or are still operational. It cannot fix shutdowns but can give the poor little fellow some relief. Give him the same dosage as an adult (3 times a day)

Suzi

mumofthree63 wrote: I have a big, beautiful Norweigan cat, Boogie, who it seems is dying. We had him to the emergency clinic & his bilirubin is off the page. A 3+ was the result of the test. His pee was bright orange, like B vitamins, but really concentrated. His weight has dropped down to 10 lbs, and he is dehydrated, even though he's drinking. The vet says we're talking up in the thousand dollar mark to save his life, and he also found a mass in the liver area. Boogie won't eat, and we have been force feeding him through a syringe. I did a search & found that even with vet care, he needs to be force fed, or have a feeding tube inserted for 7 weeks. We spent 100.00 to have him looked at, and no way can we afford aggressive treatments for him. We have started him on milk thistle, spirulina, hawthorne, CoQ10, and aerobic oxygen. Ido have him segregated from the other animals, his own food, water, & litter pan, so I can keep an eye on what he's doing. He has notvoided either way, bowels or urine now for 3 days and this concerns me. No longer does he purr, and he shrinks back when touched.I was shocked at the rapid deterioration with his condition. Boogie has a double coat, so it was not so obvious that he'd lost weight.The vet says that with this illness, it happens so rapidly, that you tend not to notice, and only two days before this he seemed normal.Has anyone ever dealt with this? Is there something else I could use on him? I can afford herbs & supplements, but not much over a couple of hundred dollars. I don't know what else to do... I've thought of using Rescue Remedy, but my husband is not convinced that there's anything to validate using it, in other words he thinks this stuff is over hyped.We don't want to lose this guy. He is our family's Christmas day kitty. Just showed up on our porch 3 years ago. We also easily turned him into an indoor cat, and he takes care of Bella, our elderlyrescued cat. It's tough having a big heart & a small paycheque when you have animals that you love so much... Any suggestions appreciated...

[Guest guest]

Hi Suzi;

 

Thanks for the response... our cat was deathly ill, and severely

jaundiced, and after 2 trips to the vet, we were sure he was passing

on. He has improved overnight, and his tail was up this morning, as

he wandered around. What a pleasure that was after seeing him

immobilized for so many days. He also responded to touch, so that was

nice....

 

We noticed that he appeared to be constipated and helped him by

administering an enema. I have never had to do this with a cat. In

our desperation, we'd try just about anything. I guess it made a

difference, as he's almost himself. I don't think he's cured or

anything, but whatever we can do to help him we will try. I may try

the Essiac tea on him & see what happens...

 

Thanks again!

 

Deana

 

herbal remedies, Suzanne Nottmeier <suziesgoats>

wrote:

>

> The only thing I can suggest is Essiac. You can give it orally -

if nothing esle it should ease his pain. Depending on whether or not

any major organs are shutting down or are still operational. It

cannot fix shutdowns but can give the poor little fellow some relief.

Give him the same dosage as an adult (3 times a day)

> Suzi

[Guest guest]

Hi Peela;

 

Thanks for responding; our cat has improved, which is amazing to me,

as for the 2nd time the vet recommended euthanasia. We had noticed he

was constipated, and straining to go, and we administered an enema.

He must have known it would help him, for he sat still, and afterward,

used the litter pan.

 

This morning his tail is up, he is alert, and he is actually moving

about the upstairs. Responds to touch, though not purring as of

yet; would I love to hear him purr right now! Still not eating, but

we are giving him, milk thistle, dandelion, CoQ10, spirulina, and

hawthorn. I pray that we are doing something right. Today was the day

we were going to have him 'relieved of his suffering' if he did not

improve. So now we will just wait & see...

 

Oh, and the vet says it's either a tumour (cancer) on his liver, or

Hepatic Lipidosis. I think, after all my researching, that it's the

latter.

 

Thanks again, and will keep you posted...

 

Deana

 

herbal remedies, Peela <peelasacha> wrote:

> Sounds like a beautiful cat. i really dont know what

> you can do to save him- someone else may- but what I

> immediately thought of when I read your post was

> Rescue Remedy would be great, to make him stress less

> and more comfortable as he dies. Sometimes you just

> have to do your best to make death as comfortable as

> possible, and that is the most beautiful gift you

> can give.

> Did the vet give a name to the condition?

> love

> peela

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Deana, thats wonderful news.

love

Peela

 

 

--- mumofthree63 wrote:

> Hi Peela;

>

> Thanks for responding; our cat has improved, which

> is amazing to me,

> as for the 2nd time the vet recommended euthanasia.

> We had noticed he

> was constipated, and straining to go, and we

> administered an enema.

> He must have known it would help him, for he sat

> still, and afterward,

> used the litter pan.

>

> This morning his tail is up, he is alert, and he is

> actually moving

> about the upstairs. Responds to touch, though not

> purring as of

> yet; would I love to hear him purr right now! Still

> not eating, but

> we are giving him, milk thistle, dandelion, CoQ10,

> spirulina, and

> hawthorn. I pray that we are doing something right.

> Today was the day

> we were going to have him 'relieved of his

> suffering' if he did not

> improve. So now we will just wait & see...

>

> Oh, and the vet says it's either a tumour (cancer)

> on his liver, or

> Hepatic Lipidosis. I think, after all my

> researching, that it's the

> latter.

>

> Thanks again, and will keep you posted...

>

> Deana

>

> herbal remedies, Peela <peelasacha>

> wrote:

> > Sounds like a beautiful cat. i really dont know

> what

> > you can do to save him- someone else may- but what

> I

> > immediately thought of when I read your post was

> > Rescue Remedy would be great, to make him stress

> less

> > and more comfortable as he dies. Sometimes you

> just

> > have to do your best to make death as comfortable

> as

> > possible, and that is the most beautiful gift you

> > can give.

> > Did the vet give a name to the condition?

> > love

> > peela

>

>

>

 

 

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Hi again Peela;

 

I am truly amazed at this cat, he is determined to hang in there! My

husband went in to him this morning and he chirped and rubbed against

his hand. He had a BM last night all by himself, and there was a large

hairball in it. Blocked bowel perhaps?? Maybe not as serious as we

thought, but then if this keeps happening... Glad we hung in there

too, and didn't take the vets advice. I don't think he's right out of

the woods yet, but doesn't look as jaundiced as he did. Funny how the

vet never recommended giving him an enema. Have to figure these things

out yourself!!

 

Again, will keep you posted... and thanks!

 

Deana

 

herbal remedies, Peela <peelasacha> wrote:

> Deana, thats wonderful news.

> love

> Peela

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Thanks Suzi;

 

Boog has improved even more today, actually chirped a

greeting to my husband this morning, and rubbed

against his hand. He had a BM himself last night so we

are hopeful. Glad we didn't take the vets advice...

 

Thanks for your concern...

 

Deana

 

 

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Dear Deana,

Jumped in late on this thread, but very well done on your natural healing approach. To wrap things up, I'd get half of an Intestinal Cleanse #1 capsule down him as soon as you can to clean out the entire intestinal tract. Had I been in on the thread from the beginning, I'd have recommended that approach along with the enema immediately. This works with all other animals as well.

Love,

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

I am truly amazed at this cat, he is determined to hang in there! My husband went in to him this morning and he chirped and rubbed against his hand. He had a BM last night all by himself, and there was a large hairball in it. Blocked bowel perhaps?? Maybe not as serious as we thought, but then if this keeps happening... Glad we hung in there too, and didn't take the vets advice. I don't think he's right out of the woods yet, but doesn't look as jaundiced as he did. Funny how the vet never recommended giving him an enema. Have to figure these things out yourself!!Again, will keep you posted... and thanks!Deana

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Deana I'm so happy to hear about boogie! great job sistah!

 

>mumofthree63 >herbal remedies >herbal remedies >[herbal remedies] Re: (unknown) >Wed, 08 Aug 2001 15:55:59 -0000 > >Hi again Peela; > >I am truly amazed at this cat, he is determined to hang in there! My >husband went in to him this morning and he chirped and rubbed against >his hand. He had a BM last night all by himself, and there was a large >hairball in it. Blocked bowel perhaps?? Maybe not as serious as we >thought, but then if this keeps happening... Glad we hung in there >too, and didn't take the vets advice. I don't think he's right out of >the woods yet, but doesn't look as jaundiced as he did. Funny how the >vet never recommended giving him an enema. Have to figure these things >out yourself!! > >Again, will keep you posted... and thanks! > >Deana > >herbal remedies, Peela wrote: > > Deana, thats wonderful news. > > love > > Peela > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Hi Doc!

 

Thanks so much for your reply... you know what it's like for most

people talking about bowel health!! Both my husband & I are firm

believers in bowel health. I wonder though, are we doing the right

thing - giving this guy his nutrients in the back end?? We simply

cannot get him to take anything by mouth, sooo we are giving him

spirulina, milk thistle, dandelion, CoQ10, liquid B vitamins &

slippery elm, colloidal silver, Aerobic Oxygen and Manuka honey. Is

there anything other than the intestinal Cleanse # 1 that you

recommended? I am guessing that one should go in his mouth right??

Are we overdoing it? Given the alternatives, (euthanasia) I hope what

we are doing will make a difference. My husband is leaning toward the

thought that he has gall stones. I know that animals are susceptible

to alot of illnesses that humans get.

 

I appreciate your input, and thanks so much!

 

Deana

 

herbal remedies, " Ian Shillington N.D. "

<Dr.IanShillington@G...> wrote:

> Dear Deana,

> Jumped in late on this thread, but very well done on your natural

> healing approach. To wrap things up, I'd get half of an Intestinal

> Cleanse #1 capsule down him as soon as you can to clean out the

entire

> intestinal tract. Had I been in on the thread from the beginning,

I'd

> have recommended that approach along with the enema immediately.

This

> works with all other animals as well.

> Love,

> Doc

>

> Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D.

> 505-772-5889

> Dr.IanShillington@G...

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Best bet is still the IC#1. I would only use half a capsule on him and lubricate it with olive oil before I very quickly pushed it down his throat. I've done this before with cats and was lucky to come away with my arm still intact ;o) With dogs, you can camouflage it with some raw hamburger (every dog I've ever had inhaled raw hamburger). You definitely need to get some herbs down his gullet some how as this will clean out his entire intestinal tract.

Love,

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

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mumofthree63

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Wednesday, August 08, 2001 8:58 PM

[herbal remedies] Re: (unknown)

Hi Doc!Thanks so much for your reply... you know what it's like for most people talking about bowel health!! Both my husband & I are firm believers in bowel health. I wonder though, are we doing the right thing - giving this guy his nutrients in the back end?? We simply cannot get him to take anything by mouth, sooo we are giving him spirulina, milk thistle, dandelion, CoQ10, liquid B vitamins & slippery elm, colloidal silver, Aerobic Oxygen and Manuka honey. Is there anything other than the intestinal Cleanse # 1 that you recommended? I am guessing that one should go in his mouth right?? Are we overdoing it? Given the alternatives, (euthanasia) I hope what we are doing will make a difference. My husband is leaning toward the thought that he has gall stones. I know that animals are susceptible to alot of illnesses that humans get.I appreciate your input, and thanks so much!Deana

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Hi Doc;

 

Where do I get this IC #1?? What brand is it?? Is it

your own, or where can I get it?? From a health food

store??

 

Thanks Doc!

 

Deana

--- " Ian Shillington N.D. "

<Dr.IanShillington wrote:

> Best bet is still the IC#1. I would only use half a

> capsule on him and

> lubricate it with olive oil before I very quickly

> pushed it down his

> throat. I've done this before with cats and was

> lucky to come away with

> my arm still intact ;o) With dogs, you can

> camouflage it with some raw

> hamburger (every dog I've ever had inhaled raw

> hamburger). You

> definitely need to get some herbs down his gullet

> some how as this will

> clean out his entire intestinal tract.

> Love,

> Doc

 

 

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Hi

I have used an Amethyst in my cats drinking water for over a year now, and

neither has had a flea since!!

Crystal