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Hi Jim,

 

Sure, lemon soap's great... let's see.. citrus potpourri (with all those lemon

peels you'll have after you make all the rest of the stuff),

lemon (squeezed to castile soap) - water added; as a dish detergent,

lemon-squeezed to one quart water and one quart white vinegar as an all

purpose cleaner/disinfectant... lemon pie, lemon cake... hhhhhhmmmmmmmm...

lemoned out here!!!!!!! :-) Let's see, we have this one lil dwarf

lemon tree which has TWO lemons on it.. but - the lemons are Ponderosa ones...

so it looks so funny with the poor tree being about 2 1/2 ft

tall and here's these two grapefruit sized lemons on it! We're waiting for the

lemons to either ripen OR the tree to fall over!!!!!!!!!!! Take

care!

 

Hugs,

 

Marilyn

 

" James W. French " wrote:

 

> ok what i need is an idea t use lots of fresh lemons in????????

>

> how about lemon soap?.... or ???? have a myer lemon tree that is going

> to blessme with many lemons this year right away....

>

> Thanks Jim

>

>

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What a neat poem. It was funny, your timing and all. I was sitting here at

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situation of looking for work...not knowing where the answers lie or will

come from...and I looked outside and saw the sunshine shining brightly. It

was great timing ;-) Hope everyone has a great weekend!

 

Have a wonderful day!

 

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Monday, October 15, 2001 5:59 PM

Anthrax and TCM

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[Guest guest]

I want to share this incredable book, " Finding Your own North Star, claiming the

life you were meant to live. " It was back ordered on Amazon several times, but

is well worth the wait. If anyone out there is looking for exercises and wisdom

that will assit them towards getting to their core, this is delightful find. The

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Chapter Titles give a good idea about the content:

the disconnected self, reconnecting: how your essential self says " no, " Getting

to yes, just because you are paranoid doesn't mean the everybody is not out to

get you, getting everybody on your side, how holly got her bod back (listening

to body wisdom), soul shrapnel: repairing your emotional compass, reading your

emotional compass, chrating your course, advaced compass reading: intuition, a

map of change, etc....

 

One of her gems that I use from her writing is her analogy of " taking turtle

steps. " If one is moving towards something, even if it is only a tiny bit at a

time, there is great joy in going at any pace. This is especially helpful to

me. She wrote her thesis 15 " a day in one year. (Sometimes the 15 " would carry

her into several hours, but if it did not, then she was true to her mission by

giving it 15 " ) The true beauty of the turtle steps that I can take are more

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goal that I can't spend enough time or energy on due to fatigue, time

constraints etc..it keeps the process clean from the " if only, " " I can't

because " spoils.)

 

Thanks for the eft file, it was most helpful.

 

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[Guest guest]

Judy,

 

If you like her (she's been on Oprah a few times) then you'll love Barbara

Sher's books. Shes amazing. I love her perspective, shes so down to earth.

Helps you find your dreams and helps you find out whats stopping you from

going for them.

 

Kate

 

At 09:26 28/11/2001 -0500, you wrote:

>I want to share this incredable book, " Finding Your own North Star,

>claiming the life you were meant to live. " It was back ordered on Amazon

>several times, but is well worth the wait. If anyone out there is looking

>for exercises and wisdom that will assit them towards getting to their

>core, this is delightful find. The author, Marth Beck, has combined

>physical, mental and emotional work so beautifully; learning from the

>mystical moments of life change in her " Life Designs " practice and in her

>own life. She uses lots of humor in her writing.

 

 

 

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Welcome, Laure. I'm a SWAC/Santa Fe 2000 graduate. What conference in June?

 

--Jody Herriott

 

-

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Monday, March 04, 2002 6:38 AM

 

Greetings! I'm a third year student at Southwest Acupuncture College in Santa Fe, NM.I came to this medicine after 8 years of nursing practice, havingspecialized in infectious disease nursing including AIDS/HIV. I love thismedicine in its many dimensions. In regards to herbs, however, I feel,perhaps like many students, rather wobbly in terms of my preparation forprescribing herbs skillfully and effectively. I'm grateful for this siteand the potential it offers as a resource. Perhaps I'll meet some of you atthe conference in June! Laure LivermanChinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education.

[Guest guest]

Doug,

 

Where do your order your collidal silver? The one you get best results with.

[Guest guest]

Hi Roo

I've used colloidal silver for many years with varied results, which

I have come to realize is a direct result of the quality of the CS

being used. There are good grades, some that you might as well be

using water, and now one that is far superior to anything else

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Everything I have used it for it has been of help. They just

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bacteria and virus', that other CS's are not even touching. It's

presently awaiting FDA " recognition " as being effective, as all the

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, Indigo Rooster <indigo_rooster>

wrote:

> This evening I will be bringing home my 7 month old

> collie puppy from the vet. I won't go into the long

> story, but I am very frustrated with the veterinarian

> and rapidly going broke from the fees I am being

> charged, and with no improvement in my dog's

> condition. He has tested positive for parvo-virus, and

> I have successfully nursed two dogs back from this

> dreaded illness in the past. I hope to do well with

> this sweet pup, also.

>

> My question to you all is concerning Colloidal Silver.

> I have found information regarding its usefullness in

> treating canine parvovirus, and I would appreciate

> input and helpful advise from anyone who has any

> experience with this remedy. I understand that I can

> use it along with his prescription medications, and

> that I should supplement it with acidophilus. Any

> advise would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Thank you in advance,

> Roo

>

>

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[Guest guest]

http://www.coralconnection.net/dh6405 will give you both audio and

written info.

 

, SuppyZ@a... wrote:

> Doug,

>

> Where do your order your collidal silver? The one you get best

results with.

[Guest guest]

FOR " ROO " RE: your puppy and Parvo-Virus:

 

We use CS water and make our own every week. It is great. [More below]

 

We know this is a CS group:

BUT I have *something else* to tell you about Parvo-Virus and

hopefully SAVING that little puppy of yours. [if you get this quick

enough] Don't see your full email address in your post.

 

We put about 1 inch of distilled water in a cup and add 20 drops

of " 3% Hydrogen Peroxide " [from the drug store...the one you use for

cuts- don't worry about what the label warning says! They don't want

you to know that it can heal you for " pennies! " ]... and we gave it to

our little Chihuahua that contacted Parvo...and it worked.

 

Dosage: Only give about 1 teaspoon with an eye dropper into puppy's

mouth - just slip it into the side of his lips and squirt

quickly...he will swallow. [Give about 2 teaspoons to a larger puppy]

 

Do this about 3 times the first day. You should see a difference [if

you caught it in time]

 

Repeat for about 3 days.

 

After puppy is better...just add to puppy regular drinking dish about

8 drops to 2 cups of distilled water. [larger puppy: add about 15

drops to 2 cups of distilled water] This should increase his appetite

also. You can do this once every month.

 

You can use this for any type of animal illness. Let us know if this

works for you. And if anyone has had experience with hydrogen

peroxide...let me know...I am doing research on this also.

 

Regarding CS Water: here is a list of some of the things it has done

for us:

1. It is especially good for skin problems. [especially animals skin]

2. It heals the external skin very fast.

3. Works on burns well.

4. keeps bowels regular.

5. Clears sinuses.

6. Gives some energy - even to diabetics.

7. Really helps with toothaches.

 

Michael and Lynnette

[Guest guest]

Toast!

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

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sexooo

herbal remedies

Friday, April 24, 1998 7:45 PM

[herbal remedies]

Dog ...

[Guest guest]

Yes! Contact them and tell them to get their butts in gear, stop selling

people's information and gathering computer IDs, secure the rest of their

servers and hire some techs who flippin' know something!

 

*lol* Sorry...you touched the techie button.

 

Sara Thustra,

Digital herbalist

*heh*

 

On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 06:47:17 -0700 " Steve " wrote:

 

> Hi everyone! Is it just me or is anybody else having trouble with

> ?? I checked to see if has changed my options, but none

> of my options have been changed. I am still a member. I am still on

> digest. However, I have not been receiving my digests over the

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> Becky

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi!

 

> 1. What is the TCM explaination for the cause of an

> autoimmune disease like lupus?

 

Lupus is usually (always?) characterised by some sort

of yin deficiency, liver vacuity / congestion.

 

> 2. Why do more women tend to suffer from this

> disease ?

 

Because women naturally tend to be yin deficient.

 

Two bits.

Bye,

Hugo

 

 

 

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In a message dated 04/12/2002 5:17:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

subincor writes:

 

<< If women had abundant yin, wouldn't theirlivers be healthy? Bye for now >>

 

Not necessarily. I met a woman recently who said that the doctors thought

she may have the beginnings of Lupus. This woman was anything but Yin

Deficient. Overweight, damp, sluggish ... ate mostly cheese, milk, eggs and

salads.

 

Ok .... one could argue that such a person would become Yin Deficient with

such a poor diet and age (she was in her mid 50's) ... but she was certainly

not a good candidate for Yin tonics. Therefore could one really view it as

Yin Defciency in terms of treatment under these circumstances? I see many

(if not more) women in daily life that fit the bill of Liver congestion than

Deficiency regardless of whether they may or may not actually be Yin

Deficient.

 

Lynn

[Guest guest]

Because women naturally tend to be yin deficient.

And, have Liver issues.

Kit

 

 

 

At 03:50 AM 4/12/02 +0100, you wrote:

 

Hi!

 

> 1. What is the TCM explaination for the cause of an

> autoimmune disease like lupus?

 

Lupus is usually (always?) characterised by some sort

of yin deficiency, liver vacuity / congestion.

 

> 2. Why do more women tend to suffer from this

> disease ?

 

Because women naturally tend to be yin deficient.

 

Two bits.

Bye,

Hugo 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Oh I see

 

I wrote:

<tt>Because women naturally tend to be yin

deficient.<br>

 

Kit replied:

</tt><font size=3>And, have Liver issues.<br>

 

Yes. Isn't the root of the liver weakness yin

deficiency? If women had abundant yin, wouldn't their

livers be healthy?

 

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Well, I suppose if your calling Blood a Yin substance....

Women and the Liver are usually due to Liver Blood issues

for the obvious reason. Kit

 

 

At 01:15 PM 4/12/02 +0100, you wrote:

Oh I see

 

I wrote:

<tt>Because women naturally tend to be yin

deficient.<br>

 

Kit replied:

</tt><font size=3>And, have Liver issues.<br>

 

Yes. Isn't the root of the liver weakness yin

deficiency? If women had abundant yin, wouldn't their

livers be healthy?

 

Bye for now,

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I thought that women tend toward a Blood deficiency because of the menstruation.

 

I haven't seen as much gender specifity with Yin deficiency.

 

I've also seen Lupus present as Blood level heat. The commonality to all

Lupus is that there is heat involved, whether due to excess or deficiency.

 

-al.

 

Kit wrote:

>

> Because women naturally tend to be yin deficient.

> And, have Liver issues.

> Kit

>

> At 03:50 AM 4/12/02 +0100, you wrote:

>

> > Hi!

> >

> > > 1. What is the TCM explaination for the cause of an

> > > autoimmune disease like lupus?

> >

> > Lupus is usually (always?) characterised by some sort

> > of yin deficiency, liver vacuity / congestion.

> >

> > > 2. Why do more women tend to suffer from this

> > > disease ?

> >

> > Because women naturally tend to be yin deficient.

> >

> > Two bits.

> > Bye,

> > Hugo 

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

In message <002701c1e1c6$5a90d560$7619a818, John R. Wahnish, L.Ac.

<TCM writes

>Hello all,

>

>Two questions for the group.

>

>

>1. What is the TCM explaination for the cause of an autoimmune disease like

>lupus?

>

>2. Why do more women tend to suffer from this disease ?

>

>Thanks for any help,

>John

I thought I liked tricky questions until now!

I am not at all sure that there can be any " explanation for the cause of an

autoimmune disease like lupus " .

You really do have to look at each patients presenting signs & symptoms to

unravel each case with this one (which is true of all autoimmune conditions I

guess). It will be multi-causal, that is a complex pattern of deficiency and

excess, possibly along the lines of :-

deficiency (Kidney esp.) >>

>> stagnation (check Gall Bladder/Bladder) >>

>> (damp) >>

>> heat.

It's also fair to say that I have yet to see any one presenting with this type

of condition who did not have severely compromised Spleen issues also.

I agree with Al in the following ---

 

" I've also seen Lupus present as Blood level heat. The commonality to all

Lupus is that there is heat involved, whether due to excess or deficiency " .

 

Four level differentiation can be useful in such cases.

 

There may be two other factors worth considering here - I assume all of the

above is fairly regular material!!! they are:

Retained pathogen - check previous medical history esp. past medications

(anti-biotics are what to look for).

Also when all else fails consider Yin Fire!! which can look like Damp Heat but

does significantly compromise the Yuan Qi.

 

Sorry to sound to vague - but it is a tricky one.

 

> As to " Why do more women tend to suffer from this disease "

well that's more complex than the first question!!

I think that it is all to do with the Blood Xu + Yin Xu + Damp issues, etc.

etc. etc. irregularities in the Chong Mai (medication(again)) and childbirth

are all factors here.

 

I hope that's of some value - if not sorry

Regards

Barry

[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

--- Al Stone <alstone wrote:

> I thought that women tend toward a Blood deficiency

> because of the menstruation.

 

Yes. The only connection I made, and I'm assuming

that's what you're addressing here, is that blood

falls under the category of yin.

 

> I haven't seen as much gender specifity with Yin

> deficiency.

 

I see very much gender specificity regarding women

and blood deficiency.

I had grouped blood under yin, called it yin, and was

probably too vague with my assertion.

 

> I've also seen Lupus present as Blood level heat.

> The commonality to all

> Lupus is that there is heat involved, whether due to

> excess or deficiency.

 

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks.

 

Hugo

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hello,

 

> Hugo wrote:

> << If women had abundant yin, wouldn't theirlivers

> be healthy? Bye for now >>

 

> Not necessarily. I met a woman recently who said

> that the doctors thought

> she may have the beginnings of Lupus. This woman

> was anything but Yin

> Deficient. Overweight, damp, sluggish ... ate

> mostly cheese, milk, eggs and

> salads.

 

Sure. Turbid yin arising from Spleen weakness. My

mistake was to be too general.

 

> Ok .... one could argue that such a person would

> become Yin Deficient with

> such a poor diet and age (she was in her mid 50's)

> ... but she was certainly

> not a good candidate for Yin tonics. Therefore

> could one really view it as

> Yin Defciency in terms of treatment under these

> circumstances?

 

That depends on whether she has yin-deficiency signs.

If she does, then she is yin-deficienct. If she

doesn't, then she is not. Either way, treatment must

focus on draining / drying dampness and tonifying the

spleen, right?

Blood ('yin') vacuity often arises from

malnourishment.

 

> I see many

> (if not more) women in daily life that fit the bill

> of Liver congestion than

> Deficiency regardless of whether they may or may not

> actually be Yin

> Deficient.

 

Why do you think that is? We know that liver

congestion can be aggravated by liv blood/yin def and

that liver blood/yin deficiency can aggravate liver

congestion. In your experience does the congestion

come first?

I wonder because of the standard diet we see, which

is certainly not conducive to keeping the liver soft,

and it seems to me that the dietary damage starts

before stress becomes the adult issue we know it to

be, i.e. when the child is very very young.

Does that make any sense to you?

 

Thanks,

Hugo

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

Kit wrote:

Well, I suppose if your calling Blood a Yin

substance....

Women and the Liver are usually due to Liver Blood

issues for the obvious reason.

 

I was, and ok.

 

Bye,

Hugo

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Try plantitherbs.com, for a start.

 

 

On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, at 01:11 PM, Pamela Zilavy wrote:

 

> I would like to grow some Shou Wu. What was your source for seeds or

> seedlings?

> Thank you,

> -pz

>

> > I'd love to try a he shou wu stout, for a start!

> >

> >

> Sounds tantalizing. Shou wu dried in thin slices makes an interesting

> snack. I grew and harvested a small amount. It would work well in stout.

> Frances Gander

>

>

>

>

>