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September 2, 2006

No way!

A really similar thing happened to me... In fact I remember having a

very similar conversation about stuff! You, me, this table, we're

all made of the same stuff. I also started to realise the fact that

we, including all matter such as stars and planets, are one thing.

Anyway, psychiatry took me on a trip to hell, I am only just getting

over it, I think it has given me some kind of post traumatic stress!

now I am learning to release the fear and anger, it didnt help that

I broke my back and arms trying to escape from a top window after

being held down by force and drugs forced in my mouth, which I

wouldnt swallow, so they opened my mouth with their fingers to get

the pills from where I was trying to hide them underneath my teeth

and forced them down my throat. Terrifying experience. A guy I know

who was stuck in there for years killed himself last year by jumping

infront of a train. I went to primary (elementary) school with him.

He was sexually abused by a catholic priest, then got into drugs and

ended up in psych wards. It ruined him. I know that the only thing

that got me through it was refusing medication at all

opportunities... as it makes you dependent, means you are under

control of the whole system, and also changes your brain... not what

the K needs. I also felt that I had very bad energy while on these

drugs. So, my advice, dont take meds, but find an outlet for

your " eccentricity " , be it artistic or exercise, or whatever feels

appropriate. I also had the same dettaching from smoking, alcohol

and started eating healthy food... whats this infront of me? A plate

of stewed pumpkins and millet? Yum!

So yeah, I dunno maybe the psych system is different where u are to

here in the UK, and it sounds like you had a less choppy ride

anyway, remember to focus on love, nourishment, healing and patience

and not fear and anger, pour love into all the relationships u

already have, including yourself, and don't listen to psychiatrists!

Who knows, what we are going through might actually become a lot

more common in the coming decades or centuries, at some point the

mainstream will become aware and stop sending us to psych wards!

Stay free, and be lucky on your journey.. JApo

, Jessi Dehne

<jdehne88 wrote:

>

> Hello. My name is Jessi and I am 19 years old. I just signed up

for

> this group, and have found it very helpful and comforting. I

recently

> experienced what I believe to be an " awakening " , but a few sites

told

> me to be careful when self diagnosing. I was wondering if anyone

has

> had similar experiences. So here's the story: I started changing

> habits for no apparent reason. I started eating healthier,

stopped

> smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol, and taking more time to

do

> just about everything. I just felt like I had no use for these

habits

> anymore. Sleeping was becoming more difficult each night. About

two

> weeks after " turning a new leaf " , I was having a conversation

with a

> friend about how we are all one, and how we're all made of the

same

> " stuff " . (I've believed in the power of words for quite some time

> now, but my experiences had never been this intense.) After

> contemplating and conversing for twenty minutes or so, I felt a

> tickling sensation travel up my spine. I said to my

friend, " whoa,

> that was weird. " The initial feeling was an intense bliss. Then

it

> literally felt like my soul was leaving my body and perhaps that

I was

> losing my mind, so I began to get very anxious. My heart began to

> race, my fingers went cold, and I began trembling. I didn't feel

> " real " , or " real " as I had experienced prior to this. I watched

> myself tap my arm with my fingers, but couldn't feel it. My

friend

> new something was up and asked if I wanted to go outside and get

some

> fresh air. I agreed, and he tried talking me back " down to

earth " .

> Everything seemed to look different, and although he was trying as

> best he could to help, a part of me didn't want him to. He was

saying

> that it would be okay, but I " knew " beyond any doubt, that he

didn't

> believe what he was saying. It took about forty-five minutes to

talk

> me down, but was able to fall asleep later that evening.

> The next morning, I started reading Tao Te Ching on the

internet,

> and the same feelings started to come again. I asked to be taken

to

> the hospital, and knew I wouldn't be able to drive myself so I

got a

> ride. While in the emergency room, I was having extreme mood

swings;

> laughing one minute, crying the next. I felt my deceased

grandmothers

> presence around me. They ended up sending me to the psych ward

and

> later I was diagnosed with bi-polar with psychotic tendencies.

> Psychology is just one way of looking at the human experience,

and I

> don't feel it does spirituality much justice. I believe that what

> happened to me was spiritual in nature, and don't feel the need to

> take the medication prescribed. I have found some of my own ways

to

> keep me grounded and more balanced. I've been out now for two

weeks,

> and more is revealed to me each day. I'm not anxious now about

what

> is happening to me; I feel I'm exactly where I need to be. Any

> comments would be greatly appreciated.

>

> ~Jessi

>

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September 2, 2006

hi Jessi,

Sounds to me like you have a very smart head on your

shoulders and are doing the right things, you seem to

listen to your own inner voice and so you have found

your own balance.

Blessings to you on this sacred path, thankyou for

sharing your story.

Are you doing the tibetans? And breathing?

Inlove Elektra x x x

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September 2, 2006

Jessi

Thank you for the story. It's a shame that they just slapped you with a

" Psychosis " --I don't know what implications this may have for your life. Are you

still taking the meds they prescribed to you?

I am extremely new to this Kundalini thing myself. My experieneces have not been

as intense as yours though. I have mostly experienced energy bursts, lack of

sleep, random chest pains, and intense heat--but nothing really consistent.

You'll find that this is a very warm, helpful, and beautiful group of people. I

don't say too much at the moment because I have no idea what they're talking

about half the time, LOL!...but I'm learning.

Good luck to you on your journey.

Blessings,

Ana

Jessi Dehne <jdehne88 wrote: Hello.

My name is Jessi and I am 19 years old. I just signed up for

this group, and have found it very helpful and comforting. I recently

experienced what I believe to be an " awakening " , but a few sites told

me to be careful when self diagnosing. I was wondering if anyone has

had similar experiences. So here's the story: I started changing

habits for no apparent reason. I started eating healthier, stopped

smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol, and taking more time to do

just about everything. I just felt like I had no use for these habits

anymore. Sleeping was becoming more difficult each night. About two

weeks after " turning a new leaf " , I was having a conversation with a

friend about how we are all one, and how we're all made of the same

" stuff " . (I've believed in the power of words for quite some time

now, but my experiences had never been this intense.) After

contemplating and conversing for twenty minutes or so, I felt a

tickling sensation travel up my spine. I said to my friend, " whoa,

that was weird. " The initial feeling was an intense bliss. Then it

literally felt like my soul was leaving my body and perhaps that I was

losing my mind, so I began to get very anxious. My heart began to

race, my fingers went cold, and I began trembling. I didn't feel

" real " , or " real " as I had experienced prior to this. I watched

myself tap my arm with my fingers, but couldn't feel it. My friend

new something was up and asked if I wanted to go outside and get some

fresh air. I agreed, and he tried talking me back " down to earth " .

Everything seemed to look different, and although he was trying as

best he could to help, a part of me didn't want him to. He was saying

that it would be okay, but I " knew " beyond any doubt, that he didn't

believe what he was saying. It took about forty-five minutes to talk

me down, but was able to fall asleep later that evening.

The next morning, I started reading Tao Te Ching on the internet,

and the same feelings started to come again. I asked to be taken to

the hospital, and knew I wouldn't be able to drive myself so I got a

ride. While in the emergency room, I was having extreme mood swings;

laughing one minute, crying the next. I felt my deceased grandmothers

presence around me. They ended up sending me to the psych ward and

later I was diagnosed with bi-polar with psychotic tendencies.

Psychology is just one way of looking at the human experience, and I

don't feel it does spirituality much justice. I believe that what

happened to me was spiritual in nature, and don't feel the need to

take the medication prescribed. I have found some of my own ways to

keep me grounded and more balanced. I've been out now for two weeks,

and more is revealed to me each day. I'm not anxious now about what

is happening to me; I feel I'm exactly where I need to be. Any

comments would be greatly appreciated.

~Jessi

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September 2, 2006

James,

Wow. I cannot believe that they were actually legally allowed to do this to you

in that psych ward! I myself have had pretty bad experiences in them as I was a

teenager in the 80's and the popular thing for frazzled parents in the US to do

back then was to lock their kids away in these places (along with a bogus

diagnosis and unneccessary medications) for as long as the insurance would cover

it.

I know this is negative, but I pretty much have a hatred for the medical and

consequent psychiatric establishment. This has prompted me to get my undergrad

degree (and Master's as we speak) in the field of Psychology in order to

" understand the enemy " more, and perhaps (who knows?) contribute to some

changes... As far as I understand it, " sanity " or " normalcy " is entirely

culturally defined anyway--so who's to say really what is " normal " ?

I'd love to get a degree in Parapsychology, but cannot seem to find a college or

university that offers one.

Anyway, thank you for sharing that. It allowed me to talk about something I had

been ashamed to speak about before.

Blessings to you and stay sane (lol, just kidding),

Ana

James <milliondegrees wrote: No

way!