A very promising chart for France

[Guest guest]

Dear Jolastro,

 

Nice to see your efforts in this area and the fact that the chart is showing good promise with regard to a historical fit.

 

Next is to test it with some predictions. I´ll suggest the following:

 

Until 26 October, transit KETU, now at 23° 35' Cancer and 2nd house, will be aspecting natal 2nd lord MOON at 22° 28' Pisces and 10th house. With Moon-KETU period operating, this situation could be expected to place pressure on the indications of the MOON and 2nd house. As the Moon is considered the queen of the planetary cabinet and is placed in the 10th house of the executive, some sudden crisis involving the wealth of the country could put a strain on the government. As the Moon is strong in the chart, we would not expect a permanent setback to the indications of the Moon.

 

Moreover, since last week and for a few more days, 4th lord MERCURY has been passing over the close aspect of the natal nodal axis. This aspect would be expected to bring some disturbance to the collective sentiments. The disturbance could be linked to the aspect of transit Ketu to natal Moon. With Mercury in retrograde motion, this aspect ends in a few daysa. By next weekend, when transit MERCURY passes over the aspect of the natal Moon, the efforts of the government would be expected to give reassurances. However, the crisis would be expected to continue for three more weeks and peak around 9-15 October.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

zemastro <zemastroSAMVA Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 5:28:43 PM Re: A very promising chart for FranceDear Thor, and friends, I remember an important event, interesting for us: on the 26 and 27december 1999, a huge storm devasteted lots of french's forest anddisturbed significantly the life of numerous people. Storms are rarein France.In the referendum chart, Sun's period was running and Kétu'ssub-period just began 3 days ago. Transit Ketu afflicted exactly natalSun in 4H (land) from 8H (natural desasters). Jupiter (wealth ?)wasstationnary on natal Ketu.Another storm disturb the north of France on the 18 january 2007:Moon/Saturn running. Natal Ketu afflicts natal and transit Saturn.Best

wishes,Jolastro---

[Guest guest]

Dear friends,

 

The French government is active at work on dealing with this crisis.

 

France's Sarkozy battles fallout from financial crisis

 

 

 

by Carole Landry 45 minutes ago

 

PARIS (AFP) - President Nicolas Sarkozy on Monday battled to contain fallout from the global financial crisis, moving ahead with plans for a world summit and calling a meeting of French banking and insurance chiefs.

http://news./s/afp/20080929/bs_afp/francefinancebankinguspoliticseconomy

 

It would be good to know more from our French members how the financial crisis is developing in their country.

 

In any event, we will see soon enough how the government efforts fare there...

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

Cosmologer <cosmologerSAMVA Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 6:01:51 PMRe: Re: A very promising chart for France

 

Dear Jolastro,

 

Nice to see your efforts in this area and the fact that the chart is showing good promise with regard to a historical fit.

 

Next is to test it with some predictions. I´ll suggest the following:

 

Until 26 October, transit KETU, now at 23° 35' Cancer and 2nd house, will be aspecting natal 2nd lord MOON at 22° 28' Pisces and 10th house. With Moon-KETU period operating, this situation could be expected to place pressure on the indications of the MOON and 2nd house. As the Moon is considered the queen of the planetary cabinet and is placed in the 10th house of the executive, some sudden crisis involving the wealth of the country could put a strain on the government. As the Moon is strong in the chart, we would not expect a permanent setback to the indications of the Moon.

 

Moreover, since last week and for a few more days, 4th lord MERCURY has been passing over the close aspect of the natal nodal axis. This aspect would be expected to bring some disturbance to the collective sentiments. The disturbance could be linked to the aspect of transit Ketu to natal Moon. With Mercury in retrograde motion, this aspect ends in a few daysa. By next weekend, when transit MERCURY passes over the aspect of the natal Moon, the efforts of the government would be expected to give reassurances. However, the crisis would be expected to continue for three more weeks and peak around 9-15 October.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

zemastro <zemastroSAMVA Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 5:28:43 PM Re: A very promising chart for FranceDear Thor, and friends, I remember an important event, interesting for us: on the 26 and 27december 1999, a huge storm devasteted lots of french's forest anddisturbed significantly the life of numerous people. Storms are rarein France.In the referendum chart, Sun's period was running and Kétu'ssub-period just began 3 days ago. Transit Ketu afflicted exactly natalSun in 4H (land) from 8H (natural desasters). Jupiter (wealth ?)wasstationnary on natal Ketu.Another storm disturb the north of France on the 18 january 2007:Moon/Saturn running. Natal Ketu afflicts natal and transit Saturn.Best

wishes,Jolastro---

[Guest guest]

Hello Thor, and all list members,

 

It will be really interesting to follow french news and compare with

what the referendum chart forecasts.

 

I also keep in mind that I don't find any significant event in january

1986 (except death of very popular french singer, Daniel Balavoine)

whereas astrological configurations where serious. What is your

opinion about that ? Do we have to conclude something now, or just

wait and see ?

 

Best regards,

Jolastro

 

 

SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote:

>

> Dear friends,

>

> The French government is active at work on dealing with�this crisis.

>

> France's Sarkozy battles fallout from financial crisis

> by Carole Landry 45 minutes ago

> PARIS (AFP) - President Nicolas Sarkozy on Monday battled to contain

fallout from the global financial crisis, moving ahead with plans for

a world summit and calling a meeting of French banking and insurance

chiefs.

>

http://news./s/afp/20080929/bs_afp/francefinancebankinguspoliticseconom\

y

> �

> It would be�good to know more from our French�members how the

financial crisis is developing�in their country.

> �

> In any event, we will�see soon enough�how the government

efforts�fare there...

> �

> Best wishes,

> �

> Thor

>

>

>

>

> Cosmologer <cosmologer

> SAMVA

> Monday, September 29, 2008 6:01:51 PM

> Re: Re: A very promising chart for France

>

>

> Dear Jolastro,

>

> Nice to see your efforts in this area and the fact that the chart is

showing�good promise with regard to a�historical fit.

>

> Next is to test it with some predictions. I�ll suggest the following:

>

> Until 26 October,�transit KETU, now at 23� 35' Cancer and 2nd house,

will be aspecting natal 2nd lord MOON at 22� 28' Pisces and 10th

house. With Moon-KETU period operating, this situation could be

expected to place pressure on the indications of the MOON and 2nd

house. As the Moon is considered the queen of the planetary�cabinet

and�is placed�in the 10th house of the executive, some sudden crisis

involving the wealth of the country could put a strain on the

government. As the Moon is strong in the chart, we would not expect a

permanent setback to the indications of the Moon.

>

> Moreover, since last week�and for a few more days, 4th lord MERCURY

has been�passing over the close aspect of the natal nodal axis. This

aspect would be expected to�bring some disturbance to the collective

sentiments. The disturbance could�be linked to the aspect of transit

Ketu to natal Moon.�With Mercury in retrograde motion, this aspect

ends in a few daysa. By next weekend, when transit MERCURY passes over

the aspect of the natal Moon, the efforts of the government would be

expected to�give reassurances. However, the crisis would be expected

to continue for three more weeks and peak around 9-15 October.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Thor

>

>

>

>

> zemastro <zemastro

> SAMVA

> Monday, September 29, 2008 5:28:43 PM

> Re: A very promising chart for France

>

>

>

> Dear Thor, and friends,

>

> I remember an important event, interesting for us: on the 26 and 27

> december 1999, a huge storm devasteted lots of french's forest and

> disturbed significantly the life of numerous people. Storms are rare

> in France.

>

> In the referendum chart, Sun's period was running and Kétu's

> sub-period just began 3 days ago. Transit Ketu afflicted exactly natal

> Sun in 4H (land) from 8H (natural desasters). Jupiter (wealth ?)was

> stationnary on natal Ketu.

>

> Another storm disturb the north of France on the 18 january 2007:

> Moon/Saturn running. Natal Ketu afflicts natal and transit Saturn.

>

> Best wishes,

> Jolastro

>

>

>

>

>

> ---

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Jolastro,

 

Your finding is actually offering further confirmation of this chart!

 

Aside from bad placements, the aspects in January 1986 weren´t that bad. The nodes were moving at normal speed over natal 7th lord JUPITER. Hence, the setbacks would not have been expected to be significant at that time.

 

To check for significant events, we should focus on

- stationary placements of FB planets in aspect to the natal or

- transit nodes or the stationary nodes aspects to natal or transit FB planets

 

The weak planets so afflicted would be expected to produce more difficulty than strong planets, like the Moon in the Referendum chart.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

zemastro <zemastroSAMVA Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 9:24:39 AM Re: A very promising chart for FranceHello Thor, and all list members,It will be really interesting to follow french news and compare withwhat the referendum chart forecasts.I also keep in mind that I don't find any significant event in january1986 (except death of very popular french singer, Daniel Balavoine)whereas astrological configurations where serious. What is youropinion about that ? Do we have to conclude something now, or justwait and see ?Best regards,JolastroSAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote:>> Dear

friends,> > The French government is active at work on dealing with�this crisis. > > France's Sarkozy battles fallout from financial crisis > by Carole Landry 45 minutes ago > PARIS (AFP) - President Nicolas Sarkozy on Monday battled to containfallout from the global financial crisis, moving ahead with plans fora world summit and calling a meeting of French banking and insurancechiefs. >http://news./s/afp/20080929/bs_afp/francefinancebankinguspoliticseconomy> �> It would be�good to know more from our French�members how thefinancial crisis is developing�in their country.> �> In any event, we will�see soon enough�how the governmentefforts�fare there...> �> Best wishes,>

�> Thor> > > > > Cosmologer <cosmologer> SAMVA > Monday, September 29, 2008 6:01:51 PM> Re: Re: A very promising chart for France> > > Dear Jolastro,> > Nice to see your efforts in this area and the fact that the chart isshowing�good promise with regard to a�historical fit. > > Next is to test it with some predictions. I�ll suggest the following:> > Until 26 October,�transit KETU, now at 23� 35' Cancer and 2nd house,will be aspecting natal 2nd lord MOON at 22� 28' Pisces and 10thhouse. With Moon-KETU period operating, this situation could beexpected to place pressure on the indications of the MOON and 2ndhouse.

As the Moon is considered the queen of the planetary�cabinetand�is placed�in the 10th house of the executive, some sudden crisisinvolving the wealth of the country could put a strain on thegovernment. As the Moon is strong in the chart, we would not expect apermanent setback to the indications of the Moon. > > Moreover, since last week�and for a few more days, 4th lord MERCURYhas been�passing over the close aspect of the natal nodal axis. Thisaspect would be expected to�bring some disturbance to the collectivesentiments. The disturbance could�be linked to the aspect of transitKetu to natal Moon.�With Mercury in retrograde motion, this aspectends in a few daysa. By next weekend, when transit MERCURY passes overthe aspect of the natal Moon, the efforts of the government would beexpected to�give reassurances. However, the crisis would be expectedto

continue for three more weeks and peak around 9-15 October.> > Best wishes,> > Thor> > > > > zemastro <zemastro> SAMVA > Monday, September 29, 2008 5:28:43 PM> Re: A very promising chart for France> > > > Dear Thor, and friends, > > I remember an important event, interesting for us: on the 26 and 27> december 1999, a huge storm devasteted lots of french's forest and> disturbed significantly the life of numerous people. Storms are rare> in France.> > In the referendum chart, Sun's period was running and Kétu's> sub-period just began 3 days ago. Transit Ketu afflicted exactly natal> Sun in 4H (land) from 8H (natural

desasters). Jupiter (wealth ?)was> stationnary on natal Ketu.> > Another storm disturb the north of France on the 18 january 2007:> Moon/Saturn running. Natal Ketu afflicts natal and transit Saturn.> > Best wishes,> Jolastro> > > > > > ---> >

[Guest guest]

Hello Thor,

 

Thank you for this correction: I had forgotten importance of node's speed.

 

So, its rather a good news for our research.

 

Best wishes,

Jolastro

 

 

 

 

SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote:

>

> Hello Jolastro,

>

> Your finding is actually offering further confirmation of this chart!

>

> Aside from bad placements, the aspects in January 1986 weren�t that

bad. The nodes were moving at normal speed over natal 7th lord

JUPITER. Hence, the setbacks would not have been expected to be

significant at that time.

>

> To check for significant events, we should focus on�

> - stationary placements of FB planets�in aspect to the natal or

> - transit nodes or the stationary nodes aspects to natal or transit

FB planets

>

> The�weak planets so afflicted�would be expected to produce more

difficulty than strong planets, like the Moon in the Referendum chart.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Thor

>

>

>

>

> zemastro <zemastro

> SAMVA

> Tuesday, September 30, 2008 9:24:39 AM

> Re: A very promising chart for France

>

>

>

> Hello Thor, and all list members,

>

> It will be really interesting to follow french news and compare with

> what the referendum chart forecasts.

>

> I also keep in mind that I don't find any significant event in january

> 1986 (except death of very popular french singer, Daniel Balavoine)

> whereas astrological configurations where serious. What is your

> opinion about that ? Do we have to conclude something now, or just

> wait and see ?

>

> Best regards,

> Jolastro

>

>

> SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear friends,

> >

> > The French government is active at work on dealing with�this crisis.

> >

> > France's Sarkozy battles fallout from financial crisis

> > by Carole Landry 45 minutes ago

> > PARIS (AFP) - President Nicolas Sarkozy on Monday battled to contain

> fallout from the global financial crisis, moving ahead with plans for

> a world summit and calling a meeting of French banking and insurance

> chiefs.

> >

>

http://news./s/afp/20080929/bs_afp/francefinancebankinguspoliticseconom\

y

> > �

> > It would be�good to know more from our French�members how the

> financial crisis is developing�in their country.

> > �

> > In any event, we will�see soon enough�how the government

> efforts�fare there...

> > �

> > Best wishes,

> > �

> > Thor

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Cosmologer <cosmologer@>

> > SAMVA

> > Monday, September 29, 2008 6:01:51 PM

> > Re: Re: A very promising chart for France

> >

> >

> > Dear Jolastro,

> >

> > Nice to see your efforts in this area and the fact that the chart is

> showing�good promise with regard to a�historical fit.

> >

> > Next is to test it with some predictions. I�ll suggest the following:

> >

> > Until 26 October,�transit KETU, now at 23� 35' Cancer and 2nd house,

> will be aspecting natal 2nd lord MOON at 22� 28' Pisces and 10th

> house. With Moon-KETU period operating, this situation could be

> expected to place pressure on the indications of the MOON and 2nd

> house. As the Moon is considered the queen of the planetary�cabinet

> and�is placed�in the 10th house of the executive, some sudden crisis

> involving the wealth of the country could put a strain on the

> government. As the Moon is strong in the chart, we would not expect a

> permanent setback to the indications of the Moon.

> >

> > Moreover, since last week�and for a few more days, 4th lord MERCURY

> has been�passing over the close aspect of the natal nodal axis. This

> aspect would be expected to�bring some disturbance to the collective

> sentiments. The disturbance could�be linked to the aspect of transit

> Ketu to natal Moon.�With Mercury in retrograde motion, this aspect

> ends in a few daysa. By next weekend, when transit MERCURY passes over

> the aspect of the natal Moon, the efforts of the government would be

> expected to�give reassurances. However, the crisis would be expected

> to continue for three more weeks and peak around 9-15 October.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Thor

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > zemastro <zemastro@>

> > SAMVA

> > Monday, September 29, 2008 5:28:43 PM

> > Re: A very promising chart for France

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Thor, and friends,

> >

> > I remember an important event, interesting for us: on the 26 and 27

> > december 1999, a huge storm devasteted lots of french's forest and

> > disturbed significantly the life of numerous people. Storms are rare

> > in France.

> >

> > In the referendum chart, Sun's period was running and Kétu's

> > sub-period just began 3 days ago. Transit Ketu afflicted exactly natal

> > Sun in 4H (land) from 8H (natural desasters). Jupiter (wealth ?)was

> > stationnary on natal Ketu.

> >

> > Another storm disturb the north of France on the 18 january 2007:

> > Moon/Saturn running. Natal Ketu afflicts natal and transit Saturn.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> > Jolastro

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Professor,Thor,and all friends,

 

Other events in 1986: at the end of the year, the nodal axis became

stationnary on its natal position. Venus/Jupiter period was still

running. As Jupiter was transiting Aquarius sign, Saturn was

activated. Natal Saturn is afflicted by Ketu and was afflicted by

stationnary Rahu. At that time transit Saturn was weak in 6H.

 

During this transit, several bomb attack occured in Paris (08, 14, 15

and 17 sept.) and on the 17 november, Georges Besse, Director of

Renault(automotive industry), was assassinated. That day, Rahu was

exactly afflicting natal Saturn and the Sun (directors) entered the 6H.

 

Best wishes,

Jolastro

 

 

 

SAMVA , " zemastro " <zemastro wrote:

>

>

> Hello Thor,

>

> Thank you for this correction: I had forgotten importance of node's

speed.

>

> So, its rather a good news for our research.

>

> Best wishes,

> Jolastro

>

>

>

>

> SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote:

> >

> > Hello Jolastro,

> >

> > Your finding is actually offering further confirmation of this chart!

> >

> > Aside from bad placements, the aspects in January 1986 weren�t that

> bad. The nodes were moving at normal speed over natal 7th lord

> JUPITER. Hence, the setbacks would not have been expected to be

> significant at that time.

> >

> > To check for significant events, we should focus on�

> > - stationary placements of FB planets�in aspect to the natal or

> > - transit nodes or the stationary nodes aspects to natal or transit

> FB planets

> >

> > The�weak planets so afflicted�would be expected to produce more

> difficulty than strong planets, like the Moon in the Referendum chart.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Thor

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > zemastro <zemastro@>

> > SAMVA

> > Tuesday, September 30, 2008 9:24:39 AM

> > Re: A very promising chart for France

> >

> >

> >

> > Hello Thor, and all list members,

> >

> > It will be really interesting to follow french news and compare with

> > what the referendum chart forecasts.

> >

> > I also keep in mind that I don't find any significant event in january

> > 1986 (except death of very popular french singer, Daniel Balavoine)

> > whereas astrological configurations where serious. What is your

> > opinion about that ? Do we have to conclude something now, or just

> > wait and see ?

> >

> > Best regards,

> > Jolastro

> >

> >

> > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear friends,

> > >

> > > The French government is active at work on dealing with�this

crisis.

> > >

> > > France's Sarkozy battles fallout from financial crisis

> > > by Carole Landry 45 minutes ago

> > > PARIS (AFP) - President Nicolas Sarkozy on Monday battled to contain

> > fallout from the global financial crisis, moving ahead with plans for

> > a world summit and calling a meeting of French banking and insurance

> > chiefs.

> > >

> >

>

http://news./s/afp/20080929/bs_afp/francefinancebankinguspoliticseconom\

y

> > > �

> > > It would be�good to know more from our French�members how the

> > financial crisis is developing�in their country.

> > > �

> > > In any event, we will�see soon enough�how the government

> > efforts�fare there...

> > > �

> > > Best wishes,

> > > �

> > > Thor

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Cosmologer <cosmologer@>

> > > SAMVA

> > > Monday, September 29, 2008 6:01:51 PM

> > > Re: Re: A very promising chart for France

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Jolastro,

> > >

> > > Nice to see your efforts in this area and the fact that the chart is

> > showing�good promise with regard to a�historical fit.

> > >

> > > Next is to test it with some predictions. I�ll suggest the

following:

> > >

> > > Until 26 October,�transit KETU, now at 23� 35' Cancer and

2nd house,

> > will be aspecting natal 2nd lord MOON at 22� 28' Pisces and 10th

> > house. With Moon-KETU period operating, this situation could be

> > expected to place pressure on the indications of the MOON and 2nd

> > house. As the Moon is considered the queen of the planetary�cabinet

> > and�is placed�in the 10th house of the executive, some sudden

crisis

> > involving the wealth of the country could put a strain on the

> > government. As the Moon is strong in the chart, we would not expect a

> > permanent setback to the indications of the Moon.

> > >

> > > Moreover, since last week�and for a few more days, 4th lord

MERCURY

> > has been�passing over the close aspect of the natal nodal axis. This

> > aspect would be expected to�bring some disturbance to the collective

> > sentiments. The disturbance could�be linked to the aspect of transit

> > Ketu to natal Moon.�With Mercury in retrograde motion, this aspect

> > ends in a few daysa. By next weekend, when transit MERCURY passes over

> > the aspect of the natal Moon, the efforts of the government would be

> > expected to�give reassurances. However, the crisis would be expected

> > to continue for three more weeks and peak around 9-15 October.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > Thor

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > zemastro <zemastro@>

> > > SAMVA

> > > Monday, September 29, 2008 5:28:43 PM

> > > Re: A very promising chart for France

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Thor, and friends,

> > >

> > > I remember an important event, interesting for us: on the 26 and 27

> > > december 1999, a huge storm devasteted lots of french's forest and

> > > disturbed significantly the life of numerous people. Storms are rare

> > > in France.

> > >

> > > In the referendum chart, Sun's period was running and Kétu's

> > > sub-period just began 3 days ago. Transit Ketu afflicted exactly

natal

> > > Sun in 4H (land) from 8H (natural desasters). Jupiter (wealth ?)was

> > > stationnary on natal Ketu.

> > >

> > > Another storm disturb the north of France on the 18 january 2007:

> > > Moon/Saturn running. Natal Ketu afflicts natal and transit Saturn.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > > Jolastro

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Jolastro,

 

Very interesting.

 

I had also shared with the list bomb attacks that took place in the

autumn of 1996 - ten years later.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

SAMVA , " zemastro " <zemastro wrote:

>

>

>

> Dear Professor,Thor,and all friends,

>

> Other events in 1986: at the end of the year, the nodal axis became

> stationnary on its natal position. Venus/Jupiter period was still

> running. As Jupiter was transiting Aquarius sign, Saturn was

> activated. Natal Saturn is afflicted by Ketu and was afflicted by

> stationnary Rahu. At that time transit Saturn was weak in 6H.

>

> During this transit, several bomb attack occured in Paris (08, 14,

15

> and 17 sept.) and on the 17 november, Georges Besse, Director of

> Renault(automotive industry), was assassinated. That day, Rahu was

> exactly afflicting natal Saturn and the Sun (directors) entered the

6H.

>

> Best wishes,

> Jolastro

>

>

>

> SAMVA , " zemastro " <zemastro@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Hello Thor,

> >

> > Thank you for this correction: I had forgotten importance of

node's

> speed.

> >

> > So, its rather a good news for our research.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> > Jolastro

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello Jolastro,

> > >

> > > Your finding is actually offering further confirmation of this

chart!

> > >

> > > Aside from bad placements, the aspects in January 1986

weren�t that

> > bad. The nodes were moving at normal speed over natal 7th lord

> > JUPITER. Hence, the setbacks would not have been expected to be

> > significant at that time.

> > >

> > > To check for significant events, we should focus on�

> > > - stationary placements of FB planets�in aspect to the natal

or

> > > - transit nodes or the stationary nodes aspects to natal or

transit

> > FB planets

> > >

> > > The�weak planets so afflicted�would be expected to produce

more

> > difficulty than strong planets, like the Moon in the Referendum

chart.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > Thor

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > zemastro <zemastro@>

> > > SAMVA

> > > Tuesday, September 30, 2008 9:24:39 AM

> > > Re: A very promising chart for France

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hello Thor, and all list members,

> > >

> > > It will be really interesting to follow french news and compare

with

> > > what the referendum chart forecasts.

> > >

> > > I also keep in mind that I don't find any significant event in

january

> > > 1986 (except death of very popular french singer, Daniel

Balavoine)

> > > whereas astrological configurations where serious. What is your

> > > opinion about that ? Do we have to conclude something now, or

just

> > > wait and see ?

> > >

> > > Best regards,

> > > Jolastro

> > >

> > >

> > > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear friends,

> > > >

> > > > The French government is active at work on dealing with�this

> crisis.

> > > >

> > > > France's Sarkozy battles fallout from financial crisis

> > > > by Carole Landry 45 minutes ago

> > > > PARIS (AFP) - President Nicolas Sarkozy on Monday battled to

contain

> > > fallout from the global financial crisis, moving ahead with

plans for

> > > a world summit and calling a meeting of French banking and

insurance

> > > chiefs.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

http://news./s/afp/20080929/bs_afp/francefinancebankinguspoli

ticseconomy

> > > > �

> > > > It would be�good to know more from our French�members how

the

> > > financial crisis is developing�in their country.

> > > > �

> > > > In any event, we will�see soon enough�how the government

> > > efforts�fare there...

> > > > �

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > > �

> > > > Thor

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Cosmologer <cosmologer@>

> > > > SAMVA

> > > > Monday, September 29, 2008 6:01:51 PM

> > > > Re: Re: A very promising chart for France

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Jolastro,

> > > >

> > > > Nice to see your efforts in this area and the fact that the

chart is

> > > showing�good promise with regard to a�historical fit.

> > > >

> > > > Next is to test it with some predictions. I�ll suggest the

> following:

> > > >

> > > > Until 26 October,�transit KETU, now at 23� 35' Cancer and

> 2nd house,

> > > will be aspecting natal 2nd lord MOON at 22� 28' Pisces and

10th

> > > house. With Moon-KETU period operating, this situation could be

> > > expected to place pressure on the indications of the MOON and

2nd

> > > house. As the Moon is considered the queen of the

planetary�cabinet

> > > and�is placed�in the 10th house of the executive, some

sudden

> crisis

> > > involving the wealth of the country could put a strain on the

> > > government. As the Moon is strong in the chart, we would not

expect a

> > > permanent setback to the indications of the Moon.

> > > >

> > > > Moreover, since last week�and for a few more days, 4th lord

> MERCURY

> > > has been�passing over the close aspect of the natal nodal

axis. This

> > > aspect would be expected to�bring some disturbance to the

collective

> > > sentiments. The disturbance could�be linked to the aspect of

transit

> > > Ketu to natal Moon.�With Mercury in retrograde motion, this

aspect

> > > ends in a few daysa. By next weekend, when transit MERCURY

passes over

> > > the aspect of the natal Moon, the efforts of the government

would be

> > > expected to�give reassurances. However, the crisis would be

expected

> > > to continue for three more weeks and peak around 9-15 October.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > Thor

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > zemastro <zemastro@>

> > > > SAMVA

> > > > Monday, September 29, 2008 5:28:43 PM

> > > > Re: A very promising chart for France

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Thor, and friends,

> > > >

> > > > I remember an important event, interesting for us: on the 26

and 27

> > > > december 1999, a huge storm devasteted lots of french's

forest and

> > > > disturbed significantly the life of numerous people. Storms

are rare

> > > > in France.

> > > >

> > > > In the referendum chart, Sun's period was running and Kétu's

> > > > sub-period just began 3 days ago. Transit Ketu afflicted

exactly

> natal

> > > > Sun in 4H (land) from 8H (natural desasters). Jupiter

(wealth ?)was

> > > > stationnary on natal Ketu.

> > > >

> > > > Another storm disturb the north of France on the 18 january

2007:

> > > > Moon/Saturn running. Natal Ketu afflicts natal and transit

Saturn.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > > Jolastro

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ---

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Hello dear Jolastro, Your bringing up the events and their responding to transit planetary influences reinforce the belief in the proposed chart.

 

Best wishes.

 

 

 

-

zemastro

SAMVA

Tuesday, September 30, 2008 6:01 PM

Re: A very promising chart for France

 

 

Dear Professor,Thor,and all friends,Other events in 1986: at the end of the year, the nodal axis becamestationnary on its natal position. Venus/Jupiter period was stillrunning. As Jupiter was transiting Aquarius sign, Saturn wasactivated. Natal Saturn is afflicted by Ketu and was afflicted bystationnary Rahu. At that time transit Saturn was weak in 6H.During this transit, several bomb attack occured in Paris (08, 14, 15and 17 sept.) and on the 17 november, Georges Besse, Director ofRenault(automotive industry), was assassinated. That day, Rahu wasexactly afflicting natal Saturn and the Sun (directors) entered the 6H.Best wishes,JolastroSAMVA , "zemastro" <zemastro wrote:>> > Hello Thor,> > Thank you for this correction: I had forgotten importance of node'sspeed.> > So, its rather a good news for our research.> > Best wishes,> Jolastro> > > > > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote:> >> > Hello Jolastro,> > > > Your finding is actually offering further confirmation of this chart!> > > > Aside from bad placements, the aspects in January 1986 weren�t that> bad. The nodes were moving at normal speed over natal 7th lord> JUPITER. Hence, the setbacks would not have been expected to be> significant at that time.> > > > To check for significant events, we should focus on�> > - stationary placements of FB planets�in aspect to the natal or > > - transit nodes or the stationary nodes aspects to natal or transit> FB planets> > > > The�weak planets so afflicted�would be expected to produce more> difficulty than strong planets, like the Moon in the Referendum chart.> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Thor> > > > > > > > > > zemastro <zemastro@>> > SAMVA > > Tuesday, September 30, 2008 9:24:39 AM> > Re: A very promising chart for France> > > > > > > > Hello Thor, and all list members,> > > > It will be really interesting to follow french news and compare with> > what the referendum chart forecasts.> > > > I also keep in mind that I don't find any significant event in january> > 1986 (except death of very popular french singer, Daniel Balavoine)> > whereas astrological configurations where serious. What is your> > opinion about that ? Do we have to conclude something now, or just> > wait and see ?> > > > Best regards,> > Jolastro> > > > > > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear friends,> > > > > > The French government is active at work on dealing with�thiscrisis. > > > > > > France's Sarkozy battles fallout from financial crisis > > > by Carole Landry 45 minutes ago > > > PARIS (AFP) - President Nicolas Sarkozy on Monday battled to contain> > fallout from the global financial crisis, moving ahead with plans for> > a world summit and calling a meeting of French banking and insurance> > chiefs. > > >> >>http://news./s/afp/20080929/bs_afp/francefinancebankinguspoliticseconomy> > > �> > > It would be�good to know more from our French�members how the> > financial crisis is developing�in their country.> > > �> > > In any event, we will�see soon enough�how the government> > efforts�fare there...> > > �> > > Best wishes,> > > �> > > Thor> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cosmologer <cosmologer@>> > > SAMVA > > > Monday, September 29, 2008 6:01:51 PM> > > Re: Re: A very promising chart for France> > > > > > > > > Dear Jolastro,> > > > > > Nice to see your efforts in this area and the fact that the chart is> > showing�good promise with regard to a�historical fit. > > > > > > Next is to test it with some predictions. I�ll suggest thefollowing:> > > > > > Until 26 October,�transit KETU, now at 23� 35' Cancer and2nd house,> > will be aspecting natal 2nd lord MOON at 22� 28' Pisces and 10th> > house. With Moon-KETU period operating, this situation could be> > expected to place pressure on the indications of the MOON and 2nd> > house. As the Moon is considered the queen of the planetary�cabinet> > and�is placed�in the 10th house of the executive, some suddencrisis> > involving the wealth of the country could put a strain on the> > government. As the Moon is strong in the chart, we would not expect a> > permanent setback to the indications of the Moon. > > > > > > Moreover, since last week�and for a few more days, 4th lordMERCURY> > has been�passing over the close aspect of the natal nodal axis. This> > aspect would be expected to�bring some disturbance to the collective> > sentiments. The disturbance could�be linked to the aspect of transit> > Ketu to natal Moon.�With Mercury in retrograde motion, this aspect> > ends in a few daysa. By next weekend, when transit MERCURY passes over> > the aspect of the natal Moon, the efforts of the government would be> > expected to�give reassurances. However, the crisis would be expected> > to continue for three more weeks and peak around 9-15 October.> > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > Thor> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > zemastro <zemastro@>> > > SAMVA > > > Monday, September 29, 2008 5:28:43 PM> > > Re: A very promising chart for France> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Thor, and friends, > > > > > > I remember an important event, interesting for us: on the 26 and 27> > > december 1999, a huge storm devasteted lots of french's forest and> > > disturbed significantly the life of numerous people. Storms are rare> > > in France.> > > > > > In the referendum chart, Sun's period was running and Kétu's> > > sub-period just began 3 days ago. Transit Ketu afflicted exactlynatal> > > Sun in 4H (land) from 8H (natural desasters). Jupiter (wealth ?)was> > > stationnary on natal Ketu.> > > > > > Another storm disturb the north of France on the 18 january 2007:> > > Moon/Saturn running. Natal Ketu afflicts natal and transit Saturn.> > > > > > Best wishes,> > > Jolastro> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Professor,

 

Yes, this chart remains to be interisting to study. Lets look now at

the coming developpements, as Thor recently proposed.

 

Best wishes,

Jolastro

 

 

SAMVA , " SIHA " <vkchoudhry wrote:

>

> Hello dear Jolastro,

>

> Your bringing up the events and their responding to transit

planetary influences reinforce the belief in the proposed chart.

>

> Best wishes.

>

>

>

>

>

> -

> zemastro

> SAMVA

> Tuesday, September 30, 2008 6:01 PM

> Re: A very promising chart for France

>

>

>

>

> Dear Professor,Thor,and all friends,

>

> Other events in 1986: at the end of the year, the nodal axis became

> stationnary on its natal position. Venus/Jupiter period was still

> running. As Jupiter was transiting Aquarius sign, Saturn was

> activated. Natal Saturn is afflicted by Ketu and was afflicted by

> stationnary Rahu. At that time transit Saturn was weak in 6H.

>

> During this transit, several bomb attack occured in Paris (08, 14, 15

> and 17 sept.) and on the 17 november, Georges Besse, Director of

> Renault(automotive industry), was assassinated. That day, Rahu was

> exactly afflicting natal Saturn and the Sun (directors) entered

the 6H.

>

> Best wishes,

> Jolastro

>

> SAMVA , " zemastro " <zemastro@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Hello Thor,

> >

> > Thank you for this correction: I had forgotten importance of node's

> speed.

> >

> > So, its rather a good news for our research.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> > Jolastro

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello Jolastro,

> > >

> > > Your finding is actually offering further confirmation of this

chart!

> > >

> > > Aside from bad placements, the aspects in January 1986 weren�t

that

> > bad. The nodes were moving at normal speed over natal 7th lord

> > JUPITER. Hence, the setbacks would not have been expected to be

> > significant at that time.

> > >

> > > To check for significant events, we should focus on�

> > > - stationary placements of FB planets�in aspect to the natal or

> > > - transit nodes or the stationary nodes aspects to natal or

transit

> > FB planets

> > >

> > > The�weak planets so afflicted�would be expected to produce more

> > difficulty than strong planets, like the Moon in the Referendum

chart.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > Thor

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > zemastro <zemastro@>

> > > SAMVA

> > > Tuesday, September 30, 2008 9:24:39 AM

> > > Re: A very promising chart for France

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hello Thor, and all list members,

> > >

> > > It will be really interesting to follow french news and

compare with

> > > what the referendum chart forecasts.

> > >

> > > I also keep in mind that I don't find any significant event in

january

> > > 1986 (except death of very popular french singer, Daniel

Balavoine)

> > > whereas astrological configurations where serious. What is your

> > > opinion about that ? Do we have to conclude something now, or just

> > > wait and see ?

> > >

> > > Best regards,

> > > Jolastro

> > >

> > >

> > > SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear friends,

> > > >

> > > > The French government is active at work on dealing with�this

> crisis.

> > > >

> > > > France's Sarkozy battles fallout from financial crisis

> > > > by Carole Landry 45 minutes ago

> > > > PARIS (AFP) - President Nicolas Sarkozy on Monday battled to

contain

> > > fallout from the global financial crisis, moving ahead with

plans for

> > > a world summit and calling a meeting of French banking and

insurance

> > > chiefs.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

http://news./s/afp/20080929/bs_afp/francefinancebankinguspoliticseconom\

y

> > > > �

> > > > It would be�good to know more from our French�members how the

> > > financial crisis is developing�in their country.

> > > > �

> > > > In any event, we will�see soon enough�how the government

> > > efforts�fare there...

> > > > �

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > > �

> > > > Thor

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Cosmologer <cosmologer@>

> > > > SAMVA

> > > > Monday, September 29, 2008 6:01:51 PM

> > > > Re: Re: A very promising chart for France

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Jolastro,

> > > >

> > > > Nice to see your efforts in this area and the fact that the

chart is

> > > showing�good promise with regard to a�historical fit.

> > > >

> > > > Next is to test it with some predictions. I�ll suggest the

> following:

> > > >

> > > > Until 26 October,�transit KETU, now at 23� 35' Cancer and

> 2nd house,

> > > will be aspecting natal 2nd lord MOON at 22� 28' Pisces and 10th

> > > house. With Moon-KETU period operating, this situation could be

> > > expected to place pressure on the indications of the MOON and 2nd

> > > house. As the Moon is considered the queen of the

planetary�cabinet

> > > and�is placed�in the 10th house of the executive, some sudden

> crisis

> > > involving the wealth of the country could put a strain on the

> > > government. As the Moon is strong in the chart, we would not

expect a

> > > permanent setback to the indications of the Moon.

> > > >

> > > > Moreover, since last week�and for a few more days, 4th lord

> MERCURY

> > > has been�passing over the close aspect of the natal nodal

axis. This

> > > aspect would be expected to�bring some disturbance to the

collective

> > > sentiments. The disturbance could�be linked to the aspect of

transit

> > > Ketu to natal Moon.�With Mercury in retrograde motion, this aspect

> > > ends in a few daysa. By next weekend, when transit MERCURY

passes over

> > > the aspect of the natal Moon, the efforts of the government

would be

> > > expected to�give reassurances. However, the crisis would be

expected

> > > to continue for three more weeks and peak around 9-15 October.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > Thor

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > zemastro <zemastro@>

> > > > SAMVA

> > > > Monday, September 29, 2008 5:28:43 PM

> > > > Re: A very promising chart for France

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Thor, and friends,

> > > >

> > > > I remember an important event, interesting for us: on the 26

and 27

> > > > december 1999, a huge storm devasteted lots of french's

forest and

> > > > disturbed significantly the life of numerous people. Storms

are rare

> > > > in France.

> > > >

> > > > In the referendum chart, Sun's period was running and Kétu's

> > > > sub-period just began 3 days ago. Transit Ketu afflicted exactly

> natal

> > > > Sun in 4H (land) from 8H (natural desasters). Jupiter

(wealth ?)was

> > > > stationnary on natal Ketu.

> > > >

> > > > Another storm disturb the north of France on the 18 january

2007:

> > > > Moon/Saturn running. Natal Ketu afflicts natal and transit

Saturn.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > > Jolastro

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ---

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear friends,

 

I am following the predictions based on the 1° Gemini rising chart proposed for France:

 

"By next weekend, when transit MERCURY passes over the aspect of the natal Moon, the efforts of the government would be expected to give reassurances."

 

 

From The Times

 

October 2, 2008

 

France seeks €300bn rescue fund for Europe

 

 

 

Patrick Hosking Live: 24 hours of the Global Economy

 

France heaped pressure on Gordon Brown last night by floating an ambitious plan for a ¤300 billion (£237 billion) bailout fund to rescue crippled banks across Europe. As the world held its breath on the fate of America’s $700 billion bank bailout plan, President Sarkozy was seeking the backing of European leaders for his own lifeboat.

<snip>

Mr Sarkozy, whose country holds the European presidency, is seeking Mr Brown’s support before an emergency summit, scheduled tentatively for Saturday, with Silvio Berlusconi, the Italian Prime Minister, and Angela Merkel, the German Chancellor. His proposal was greeted with scepticism in Britain and outright hostility in Germany. It appears to involve the creation of a Europe-wide emergency fund that would be used to prop up banks when national governments are unable to intervene. http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/markets/article4864032.ece

 

Certainly, the government appears to have been busy with formulating initiatives, but we have yet to see news indicating the initiatives have given reassurances.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

 

Cosmologer <cosmologerSAMVA Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 6:01:51 PMRe: Re: A very promising chart for France

 

Dear Jolastro,

 

Nice to see your efforts in this area and the fact that the chart is showing good promise with regard to a historical fit.

 

Next is to test it with some predictions. I´ll suggest the following:

 

Until 26 October, transit KETU, now at 23° 35' Cancer and 2nd house, will be aspecting natal 2nd lord MOON at 22° 28' Pisces and 10th house. With Moon-KETU period operating, this situation could be expected to place pressure on the indications of the MOON and 2nd house. As the Moon is considered the queen of the planetary cabinet and is placed in the 10th house of the executive, some sudden crisis involving the wealth of the country could put a strain on the government. As the Moon is strong in the chart, we would not expect a permanent setback to the indications of the Moon.

 

Moreover, since last week and for a few more days, 4th lord MERCURY has been passing over the close aspect of the natal nodal axis. This aspect would be expected to bring some disturbance to the collective sentiments. The disturbance could be linked to the aspect of transit Ketu to natal Moon. With Mercury in retrograde motion, this aspect ends in a few daysa. By next weekend, when transit MERCURY passes over the aspect of the natal Moon, the efforts of the government would be expected to give reassurances. However, the crisis would be expected to continue for three more weeks and peak around 9-15 October.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor