Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-Respected Sir Dakshinamoorthy ji

November 8, 2006

OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH Dear Lakshmi Ji, Thanks for your views.Please check Partha's chart and I hope you will get the answer. With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote: Om Gurave NamahNamaste Ramadas Raoji,Thanks for sharing your ashtama shani experiences with us. Your Saturn is not only lagna/2nd lord and shubhapati, but is also posited in the 9th house...indicating your great spirituality and dharmic nature. For such a person, it's no wonder that ashtama shani turned out to be beneficial. So, my conjecture about ashtama shani (in tandem with Tr Jupiter)triggering karmic life-events is not incorrect.Another point you've made about the lord of ashtama bhava being in Pushkaramsa and that having made the ashtama shani is also very interesting and thought provoking. incidentally, my 8th lord, moon is also in pushkaramsa. Is Partha's moon also in pushkaramsa? I'll have to check!!regards,Lakshmi sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote:>> OM SHRI

RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH> OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH> Dear Lakshmi Ji and other members of this list,> It is very interesting to read everybody's experiences during the difficult transits of Shani.> Now let me give some inputs of Shani's transit over 8th house from Lagna and Chandra in my life for the 1st time.Shani entered Simha Rashi on 7/9/1977 and entered Kanya Rashi on 27/7/1980.During the beginning of Shani's transit I was working in a Central -State government company and my salary was just revised just befor Shani entered Simha Rashi.In 1978,between April to May, there was a strike in our company,so there was no salary for one month but by May end, the strike ended with success and we got the salary for the strike period and also got promoted to a higher category from July 1978.During the same period, my engagement was fixed and I got married on 17th of Nov.1978.We both of us went to

different places during Jan.1979 including Tirupaty and Mantralaya Shri Raghavendra Swami Ji Brindavan.On Oct.1979, I was blessed with a male child also.Shani left Simha rashi on 27/7/1980.So during this whole trasnit of Shani on 8th house from Lagna and Chandra was a Blessed one> for me.During the above said period,Guru in transit was in Mithuna ( 6th house ), 7th house in 1978 and then in 1979 -1980 in Simha Rashi in 8th house.So this clearly indicates Shani's transit in 8th house from Lagna and Chandra Rashi has given beneficial results.For Makara Lagna, Shani is Lagna and 2nd house lord and is a benefic for this Lagna.Another important thing I learnt from this transit is eventhough the transit of Shani over 8th house is bad ,if his sign lord ie., Surya is placed in Meena Rashi in 3rd from both Lagna and Chandra and is in Pushkaramsha.This Surya's Pushkaramsha has lifted me and blessed with auspicious

results during the Shani's transit over Simha Rashi.During the above transit, Guru-Shani, Guru-Budha and Guru-Ketu was running using 360 Savana days per year.Now Shani again came to Simha rashi which is 8th from Lagna and Chandra.I pray God that this transit also proves beneficial to me in all the ways.> I am sharing this experience to all the members of the list for further discussion.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:> Om Gurave Namah> > Dear Karu,> > Namaste. > > It was very interesting to read about your experiences during Saturn > transit. I also agree that Saturn is one planet who teaches us hard > lessons and he's always kind to those who are willing to learn.> > Regarding Partha, he's like a child...walking out in a huff when he's > hurt

or angry, like we all are at some or other juncture in life. But > I must say that his affection for SJC and Guruji never wavered, and I > very much consider him as one of us. > > Thanks for bringing it to my notice because curiously enough this > ashtama shani seems to have favourably impacted on the chara karaka> (twa)s of the planets in trines & aspected by Tr Saturn in > navamsa...he's gained a lovely wife and a better job (moon as DK), > he's soon going to be a proud father (Mercury-PK), he's found > nurturing/protection from an equally lovely mother-like person > (Saturn as MK) and perhaps he's coming into his own or evolving as a > person too(Sun as AK). > > It could also have happened because Tr Jupiter was simultaneously > aspecting his natal 3rd, 5th, 6th, 7th and 9th houses by rasi/graha > drishtis. > >

Manifestation of dharmic & karmic connections? > > I do not know if he's found a Guru too.> > Regards,> Lakshmi> > sohamsa , "Karu" <heen@> wrote:> >> > Hare Rama Krshna> > > > Dear Lakshmi,> > > > I finished a real bad time when Saturn transit in Gemini, in my > Lagna. I have Rahu, Moon, Guru, Venus in trine to Gemini in navamsa > and I suffered a lot. Gemini is A5 and I forget all Manthra and > cleared the path for Yama Raj. When the Saturn in exact degrees of > Lagna, I lost all control over Dhi.> > > > But, due to blessings of Guru, I consider this was one of the best > time in my life. It removed fear of death, and gave me many in > retun. If I not face such terible time, I still consider God as > enemies,

and still my heart beat is depending on out siders. > > > > So Lakshmi, Why we are waiting for only adverse effects when Saturn > transit over 8th or any bad places ? For spiritual progress, this is > a disguise blessing. > > > > Partha has Sun and Moon in trine. Can you remember Partha > dissapointed and left us ? How do you explain this ? Is this has some > thing to do with Mana and self ? Again this is only a one angle of > looking. We may learn in more in future. Yes, Murthi also has lot to > do.> > Please pass my regards to Sasank and Ramesh. My best wishes and > congradulation for his win.> > > > Here is the chart of X PM.> > > > Dudley Senanayake> > June 19, 1911> > Time: 12:15:51 pm> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 79 E 51' 00", 6 N 56' 00"> >

> > Thanks> > Karu> > > > > > > > > > - > > b_lakshmi_ramesh > > sohamsa > > Tuesday, November 07, 2006 1:06 AM> > Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-Respected > Sir Dakshinamoorthy ji> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > Dear Karu,> > > > Namaste. No, I can't see the attachment, because do > not > > store attachments. Could you please give the birth data, so that > I > > can generate the chart and appreciate your input better?> > > > Thanks for the input from Devakeralam. I appreciate the point > you've > > made. In navamsa, I do not have any planets in trines or in 7th

> to Tr > > Saturn in cancer. Only Navamsa ascendant is in trines to Tr > saturn, > > so does that make any difference?> > > > But in Partha's case, there are planets in trines & 7th from Tr > > Saturn, but he said that he did not feel the adverse impct of > ashtama > > shani. > > > > I think one needs to analyse the transit effect from all the > > perspectives of murthi, operating dasa, natal & navamsa > placements > > and perhaps consider what result is predominantly thrown up by > these > > examinations.> > > > Sasank (my younger son) sends his loving regards to his favourite > > Karu uncle, and he's so happy that Australia won the Champions > > trophy. > > > > Regards,> > Lakshmi> > > > sohamsa , "Karu" <heen@> wrote:> > >> > > > > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA> > > > > > Dear Lakshmi,> > > Please see the attached chart.> > > > > > In 1952, When Saturn is in Lagna, as well as 8th from the Moon, > he > > was passing Mercury Mahadasa and Saturn Antar dasa. He became the > > prime minister of Sri Lanka. His father was the first prime > minister > > of Sri Lanka.> > > > > > Strong Mercury gave him the Rajayoga, but has Papa (or kroora) > > Argala from 12th lord Sun (Father). In the natal chart, Saturn > and > > Rahu obstruct argala of Sun, and promised to activate the Raja > yoga > > when the time comes. As soon as Saturn antar dasa came, his > father > > died and he

became the PM.> > > > > > See the Navamsa. Jupiter is in Capricorn, trine to Virgo. So Tr > > Saturn damage father's life as Jupiter is the lord of the 8th > from > > 9th house of Rasi. This proves, all negative effects come from > the > > bhavas related to planets in trine or 7th from the Sign of Tr > Saturn > > in Navamsa.> > > > > > Did you find in your Navamsa chart any planets in Trine or 7th > to > > Cancer ?> > > > > > Perhaps there can be many reasons, but I use this simple rule > from > > Devakaralam.> > > > > > Best Wishes> > > Karu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh > > > sohamsa > > > Thursday, November 02, 2006 8:51 PM> > > Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-Respected > > Sir Dakshinamoorthy ji> > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > Namaste Ramdas Raoji,> > > > > > Thanks for your learned explanation and bracing words. As you > > said, > > > Mother's grace can indeed ward off all evils, as do blessings > > from > > > good people like you. > > > > > > I do agree that a strong Jupiter in lagna gives me a lot of > > immunity. > > > I was also wondering if Saturn's association with the 8th > > house/lord > > > in the natal chart has something to do with this, because > Partha > >

had > > > also not experienced any malefic results of ashtama shani and > he > > has > > > Saturn in 8th house (cancer) in his natal chart. Ofcourse he > also > > had > > > Rahu dasa running and Rahu aspects 9th house, as does his > > dispositor, > > > Venus.> > > > > > This is just a thought...> > > > > > Regards,> > > Lakshmi> > > > > > sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao@> wrote:> > > >> > > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH> > > > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH> > > > Dear Lakshmi Ji,> > > > In your chart, Lagna lord Guru is in Lagna which is his Moola > > > Trikona Sthana and has got highest Shadbala

strength.This > > indicates > > > God's Blessings are with you ,so no planetary afflictions > during > > > their transit will affect your life !!Eventhough Guru is in the > > > beginning of the Rashi, he is in Devalokamsha.Also he has > highest > > > Vimshopaka Bala.So either Sadesathi or Kantaka Shani or Ashtama > > Shani > > > will not affect you.Just see, you are born on Thursday, your > > Janma > > > Nakshatra is Poorvashada ruled by Shukra who in Navamsha is > > placed in > > > Kumbhamsha which is near to Ucchamsha.So this indicates Mother > > Lalita > > > Tripura Sundari's Blessings are with you.So how the other > Grahas > > in > > > their adverse positions will harm you ??> > > > I think you got the reply now.> > > > With Shri Hari

Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> > > > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh@>> > > > sohamsa > > > > Tuesday, 31 October, 2006 10:03:34 AM> > > > Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-> Respected > > Sir > > > Dakshinamoorthy ji> > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > > > Namaste friends,> > > > > > > > I have one query regarding ashtama shani. Saturn has been > > > transiting > > > > my 8th house (both from lagna and from moon) for the past two > > and > > > odd > > > > years,

yet i have not faced any difficulty > > > whatsoever.. .healthwise, > > > > wealthwise or happinesswise! ! Except for a mild bout of > > jaundice > > > for > > > > my younger son, I have not experienced any difficulty, by > god's > > > > grace. On the contrary, infact, this period has been one of > the > > > > healthiest/happiest /most prosperous periods in my life, > > despite > > > the > > > > fact that i quit my job in may 2004!!> > > > > > > > I have observed from some of my friends' charts that ashtama > > shani > > > > has indeed been tough for them, so I am really puzzled and > > curious > > > > (also very thankful)as to how god has spared me. > > > > > > > > I request my friends to help me unravel

this puzzle. This > would > > > also > > > > help me to understand what factors can counteract ashtama > > shani, > > > > though I agree that analysis of one's own chart may not be > the > > best > > > > way to do that!!> > > > > > > > My birth data is > > > > > > > > September 1, 1960> > > > Time: 3:24:22 pm> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > Place: Hyderabad, AP (78 E 30', 17 N 20')> > > > > > > > If some one else has similar experience of a beneficial > ashtama > > > shani > > > > period(!!), i request them to share their birth data, so that > > it > > > > would help me in bettering my understanding.> > > > > > > >

Regards,> > > > Lakshmi> > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Kaartik Gor <astro_gor@ ..> > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Om Sai Ram> > > > > > > > > > Respected Sir,> > > > > > > > > > You are right in 8'th lord in 10'th ...In my Dasamsa D10 my > > 8'th > > > > lord (Saturn) is in 10'th (deblitated in Mesh).> > > > > > > > > > Jyotish gives me lot of satisfaction. ...any particular > > reason ??> > > > > > > > > > ALso I am undergoing Saturn Mahadasha and my Mercury > > antardasa is > > > > next which is also in 10'th house of D10....what are the > > effects of > > > > it being with a weak saturn ??> > > > >

> > > > > I think a weak saturn actually is good ?? am I right ??> > > > > > > > > > Any remedies for a better career...when will I get my > > promotion.> > > > > > > > > > Birth Data> > > > > > > > > > 04/05/1976> > > > > > > > > > 05:38:00 am> > > > > > > > > > Ahmedabad, Gujarat > > > > > > > > > > India> > > > > > > > > > Lagna is Aries and Moon Sign is Gemini.> > > > > > > > > > Thanking you in advance.> > > > > > > > > > Kaartik Gor> > > > > > > > > > dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer@ ...> wrote:> > > > > Dear Member:> > >

> > > > > > > As I have repeatedly said in my earlier posts, 8th lord in > > the > > > 10th > > > > > house is definitely not a good indicator for professional > > > > > satisfaction. In ashtakavarga chart (SAV), the no. of > bindus > > in > > > the > > > > > 12th house is significantly more than the no. of bindus in > > either > > > > > 10th house (service), 11th house (business) or even > > lagna....so, > > > on > > > > a > > > > > mundane level, your professional aspects look quite tough! > > > However, > > > > > in your case, the 6th lord Mars is also in the 10th. The > > > > combination > > > > > of 6th and 8th house lords may give mild vipareetha raaja > > yoga >

> > (by > > > > > traditional definitions, this is not vipareeta raja yoga; > by > > > > > tradition, the bad house lord should be in another bad > > > house...but > > > > in > > > > > practice, the combination of two bad lords does produce > some > > > > > vipareeta raaja yoga effects in many real cases. Astro > > > researchers > > > > > of this forum may check whether this "hypothesis" works!). > > Mars > > > in > > > > > your case, is also the lagna lord and it is in the house of > > its > > > > yoga > > > > > kaaraka Moreover, your 10th lord is in the 11th house which > > > > > indicates gains from one's profession. So, in my opinion, > you > > may > > > > be > > >

> > able to get a sudden life in your profession especially > after > > > your > > > > > 41st year. Kindly try to consolidate yourself in any > position > > not > > > > > only now, but even in the future. Take only considered > steps > > in > > > > > profession.> > > > > > > > > > Regarding spirituality, you will gain a lot by worship of > > Lord > > > > > Krishna signigying Moon....this will give you rare > spiritual > > > > > awakenings. Reading of Bhagavat Gita and Naaraayaneeyam > will > > be > > > > > auspicious to you. (Moon conjunct Rahu and Jupiter...Moon > is > > the > > > > 9th > > > > > house lord; Jupiter is the 5th house lord). Similarly, > > worship of

> > > > > Lord Lakshmi Narasimha or Goddess Pratiyangira will help > you > > to > > > > > awaken your kundalini shakti. (do either one...kindly do > not > > do > > > > both > > > > > at the same time if you are doing serious sadhanaas... I > have > > a > > > > strong > > > > > reason to say this though I would not like to divulge it to > > you > > > > now).> > > > > > > > > > Your spiritual life seems very promising. For success in > > > > > professional aspects, satisfy Sun by chanting 'Shri Raama > > > > > Pattaabhisheka sargam" with devotion regularly.> > > > > > > > > > Regarding ashtama sani, you will be out of its grasp from > > > November > > >

> > 2006. so, nothing to worry about the future due to ashtama > > sani. > > > > The > > > > > worst is probably over for you!> > > > > > > > > > Blessed be.> > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.> > > > > > > > > > In vedic astrology, "mgoel1973" > > <mgoel1973@> > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Respected Sir,> > > > > > My DOB is 16/9/72 and time is 12:22 pm.place of birth > > roorkee.> > > > > > > > > > > > Sir,> > > > > > Am I going under the period of ashtama shani.How this > will > > > affect > > > > > me.I > > > > > > am not doing well in the job area.What remedies should I

> do > > for > > > > > better > > > > > > job prospects and all round satisfaction, Sir,I am also > > > spritually > > > > > > inclined.What has the fate in store for me ?> > > > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > > > > http://uk.messenger .> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________> > > >

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November 8, 2006

sorry, I forgot that this discussion is on ashtama sani not on

sadesathi ....my apologies for jumping in without thinking.

sohamsa , " vadhris.rm " <vadhris wrote:

>

> hi all

>

> I have been keenly reading these mails as it the information is

very

> pertinent to my situation.

>

> My details

>

> DOB: Nov 15, 1968

> Location: Chennai

> Time: 9:30 AM

>

> Dhanur lagna, Simha Rasi. Have - retrograde Saturn with Rahu in

4th,

> guru, mangala, ketu in 10th. Moon in 9th. Shukra in lagna.

>

> Effects so far:

>

> 1. looking from mula dasa, starting in 1995, till date things were

> bad. Extremely bad since 2001. Son diagnosed wiht autism, severe

> pressure at work, home, son etc.

>

> 2. Very severe financial crisis since 2002 onwards. hand to mouth

> existence.

>

> Wearing Ruby (as per Sanjay ji's advise) and doing EK Jata mantra.

> Other remedies trying: Aditya hridayam, rudram on mondays (with

> complete fasting).

>

> Interestingly, fasting has beeen extremely difficult for me on

> Mondays - 8th lord? - by close of the day, I would faint of

hunger.

> I used to fast on Thursdays, it was relatively smooth.

>

> Not sure how long I have to wait, but my experience has been sade-

> sathi has been jolting !!

>

> regards

> sri

>

> sohamsa , " Jyotisa Shisya " <achyutagaddi@>

> wrote:

> >

> > |om|

> > Dear Sri Ramadas, pranaams

> >

> > As per the chart that I have for you, let us see if the following

> makes

> > better sense.

> >

> > July 1978 - Salary raise and promotion - Sani about to transit

3rd

> from Moon

> > in dasamsa

> >

> > Nov 1978 - Marriage - Sani in 12th from Moon in navamsa (sadesati)

> >

> > Oct 1979 - Birth of Child - Sani in 8th from Moon in saptamsa

> (astama

> > sani)...both Sani and Guru aspect the 5th house in saptamsa in

> transit.

> >

> > best regards

> > Hari

> >

> > On 11/7/06, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao@> wrote:

> > >

> > > *OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH*

> > > *OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH*

> > > Dear Lakshmi Ji and other members of this list,

> > > It is very interesting to read everybody's experiences during

the

> > > difficult transits of Shani.

> > > Now let me give some inputs of Shani's transit over 8th house

> from Lagna

> > > and Chandra in my life for the 1st time.Shani entered Simha

Rashi

> on

> > > 7/9/1977 and entered Kanya Rashi on 27/7/1980.During the

> beginning of

> > > Shani's transit I was working in a Central -State government

> company and my

> > > salary was just revised just befor Shani entered Simha

> Rashi.In1978,between April to May, there was a strike in our

> company,so there was no

> > > salary for one month but by May end, the strike ended with

> success and we

> > > got the salary for the strike period and also got promoted to a

> higher

> > > category from July 1978.During the same period, my engagement

was

> fixed

> > > and I got married on 17th of Nov.1978.We both of us went to

> different

> > > places during Jan.1979 including Tirupaty and Mantralaya Shri

> Raghavendra

> > > Swami Ji Brindavan.On Oct.1979, I was blessed with a male child

> also.Shanileft Simha rashi on 27/7/1980.So during this whole

trasnit

> of Shani on 8th

> > > house from Lagna and Chandra was a Blessed one for me.During

the

> above

> > > said period,Guru in transit was in Mithuna ( 6th house ), 7th

> house in 1978

> > > and then in 1979 -1980 in Simha Rashi in 8th house.So this

clearly

> > > indicates Shani's transit in 8th house from Lagna and Chandra

> Rashi has

> > > given beneficial results.For Makara Lagna, Shani is Lagna and

2nd

> house

> > > lord and is a benefic for this Lagna.Another important thing I

> learnt from

> > > this transit is eventhough the transit of Shani over 8th house

is

> bad ,if

> > > his sign lord ie., Surya is placed in Meena Rashi in 3rd from

> both Lagna and

> > > Chandra and is in Pushkaramsha.This Surya's Pushkaramsha has

> lifted me and

> > > blessed with auspicious results during the Shani's transit over

> Simha

> > > Rashi.During the above transit, Guru-Shani, Guru-Budha and Guru-

> Ketu was

> > > running using 360 Savana days per year.Now Shani again came to

> Simha rashi

> > > which is 8th from Lagna and Chandra.I pray God that this

transit

> also

> > > proves beneficial to me in all the ways.

> > > I am sharing this experience to all the members of the list for

> further

> > > discussion.

> > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

> > > Ramadas Rao.

> > >

> >

>

November 9, 2006

Parnam guru ji

i am reading this thread regularly as my own satrun is transting over 8th house .

Guru ji after seeing your chart I got one intuition and try to justified my feeling in words.

Guru ji As you mentioned that you got rise in salary , engaged, married and got son in this period as well .First of all at that time Jupiter Maha dasa (AMK) was going on and being placed in kama trikona guru done its job well. And rahu was transiting trine to AL so directed towards bohga marga.

Satrun is a karmic planet done his first job make you able to pay your "Pitri Rinna" while transiting over moksha trikona. After this you might have turned more towards Bhkati .

At this time you are under the dasa of Saturn . Satrun is in Nakshtra of AK chander As moksh karka also placed and transiting in 8th with mantra pada and the mantra pada lord and nasrgika AK has joined BK and varggotma jeva karka which will take your mind and body towards bhakti .

The time has come when you will able to take path towards real elightment bhakti.The dasa of Satrun is going to be over and

then the BK mercury dasa will come which will open new way for your soul level achievement. Guru ji I am not able to predict for you but you can take these as words my good wishes for you.

Regard

Amit puri

On 09/11/06, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote:

OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

Dear Lakshmi Ji,

Thanks for your views.Please check Partha's chart and I hope you will get the answer.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.

b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh@

> wrote:

Om Gurave NamahNamaste Ramadas Raoji,Thanks for sharing your ashtama shani experiences with us. Your Saturn is not only lagna/2nd lord and shubhapati, but is also posited

in the 9th house...indicating your great spirituality and dharmic nature. For such a person, it's no wonder that ashtama shani turned out to be beneficial. So, my conjecture about ashtama shani (in tandem with Tr Jupiter)triggering karmic life-events is not incorrect.

Another point you've made about the lord of ashtama bhava being in Pushkaramsa and that having made the ashtama shani is also very interesting and thought provoking. incidentally, my 8th lord, moon is

also in pushkaramsa. Is Partha's moon also in pushkaramsa? I'll have to check!!regards,Lakshmi

sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote:>> OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH> OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH> Dear Lakshmi Ji and other members of this list,

> It is very interesting to read everybody's experiences during the difficult transits of Shani.> Now let me give some inputs of Shani's transit over 8th house from Lagna and Chandra in my life for the 1st time.Shani entered Simha Rashi on 7/9/1977 and entered Kanya Rashi on 27/7/1980.During the beginning of Shani's transit I was working in a Central -State government company and my salary was just revised just befor Shani entered Simha Rashi.In 1978,between April to May, there was a strike in our company,so there was no salary for one month but by May end, the strike ended with success and we got the salary for the strike period and also got promoted to a higher category from July 1978.During the same period, my engagement was fixed and I got married on 17th of Nov.1978.We both of us went to different places during Jan.1979 including Tirupaty and Mantralaya Shri Raghavendra Swami Ji Brindavan.On Oct.1979, I was blessed with a male child also.Shani left Simha rashi on 27/7/1980.So during this whole trasnit of Shani on 8th house from Lagna and Chandra was a Blessed one> for me.During the above said period,Guru in transit was in Mithuna ( 6th house ), 7th house in 1978 and then in 1979 -1980 in Simha Rashi in 8th house.So this clearly indicates Shani's transit in 8th house from Lagna and Chandra Rashi has given beneficial results.For Makara Lagna, Shani is Lagna and 2nd house lord and is a benefic for this Lagna.Another important thing I learnt from this transit is eventhough the transit of Shani over 8th house is bad ,if his sign lord ie., Surya is placed in Meena Rashi in 3rd from both Lagna and Chandra and is in Pushkaramsha.This Surya's Pushkaramsha has lifted me and blessed with auspicious results during the Shani's transit over Simha Rashi.During the above transit, Guru-Shani, Guru-Budha and Guru-Ketu was running using 360 Savana days per year.Now Shani again came to Simha rashi which is 8th from Lagna and Chandra.I pray God that this transit also proves beneficial to me in all the ways.> I am sharing this experience to all the members of the list for further discussion.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:> Om Gurave Namah> > Dear Karu,> > Namaste. > > It was very interesting to read about your experiences during Saturn > transit. I also agree that Saturn is one planet who teaches us hard > lessons and he's always kind to those who are willing to learn.

> > Regarding Partha, he's like a child...walking out in a huff when he's > hurt or angry, like we all are at some or other juncture in life. But > I must say that his affection for SJC and Guruji never wavered, and I > very much consider him as one of us. > > Thanks for bringing it to my notice because curiously enough this > ashtama shani seems to have favourably impacted on the chara karaka> (twa)s of the planets in trines & aspected by Tr Saturn in > navamsa...he's gained a lovely wife and a better job (moon as DK), > he's soon going to be a proud father (Mercury-PK), he's found > nurturing/protection from an equally lovely mother-like person

> (Saturn as MK) and perhaps he's coming into his own or evolving as a > person too(Sun as AK). > > It could also have happened because Tr Jupiter was simultaneously > aspecting his natal 3rd, 5th, 6th, 7th and 9th houses by rasi/graha > drishtis. > > Manifestation of dharmic & karmic connections? > > I do not know if he's found a Guru too.> > Regards,> Lakshmi> >

sohamsa , " Karu " <heen@> wrote:> >> > Hare Rama Krshna> > > > Dear Lakshmi,> > > > I finished a real bad time when Saturn transit in Gemini, in my > Lagna. I have Rahu, Moon, Guru, Venus in trine to Gemini in navamsa > and I suffered a lot. Gemini is A5 and I forget all Manthra and > cleared the path for Yama Raj. When the Saturn in exact degrees of > Lagna, I lost all control over Dhi.> > > > But, due to blessings of Guru, I consider this was one of the best > time in my life. It removed fear of death, and gave me many in > retun. If I not face such terible time, I still consider God as > enemies, and still my heart beat is depending on out siders. > > > > So Lakshmi, Why we are waiting for only adverse effects when Saturn > transit over 8th or any bad places ? For spiritual progress, this is > a disguise blessing. > > > > Partha has Sun and Moon in trine. Can you remember Partha > dissapointed and left us ? How do you explain this ? Is this has some > thing to do with Mana and self ? Again this is only a one angle of > looking. We may learn in more in future. Yes, Murthi also has lot to > do.> > Please pass my regards to Sasank and Ramesh. My best wishes and > congradulation for his win.> > > > Here is the chart of X PM.> > > > Dudley Senanayake> > June 19, 1911> > Time: 12:15:51 pm> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 79 E 51' 00 " , 6 N 56' 00 "

> > > > Thanks> > Karu> > > > > > > > > > - > > b_lakshmi_ramesh > >

sohamsa > > Tuesday, November 07, 2006 1:06 AM> > Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-Respected > Sir Dakshinamoorthy ji

> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > Dear Karu,> > > > Namaste. No, I can't see the attachment, because do > not > > store attachments. Could you please give the birth data, so that > I > > can generate the chart and appreciate your input better?> > > > Thanks for the input from Devakeralam. I appreciate the point > you've > > made. In navamsa, I do not have any planets in trines or in 7th > to Tr > > Saturn in cancer. Only Navamsa ascendant is in trines to Tr > saturn, > > so does that make any difference?> > > > But in Partha's case, there are planets in trines & 7th from Tr > > Saturn, but he said that he did not feel the adverse impct of > ashtama > > shani. > > > > I think one needs to analyse the transit effect from all the > > perspectives of murthi, operating dasa, natal & navamsa > placements > > and perhaps consider what result is predominantly thrown up by > these > > examinations.> > > > Sasank (my younger son) sends his loving regards to his favourite > > Karu uncle, and he's so happy that Australia won the Champions > > trophy. > > > > Regards,> > Lakshmi> > > >

sohamsa , " Karu " <heen@> wrote:> > >> > > > > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA> > > > > > Dear Lakshmi,

> > > Please see the attached chart.> > > > > > In 1952, When Saturn is in Lagna, as well as 8th from the Moon, > he > > was passing Mercury Mahadasa and Saturn Antar dasa. He became the > > prime minister of Sri Lanka. His father was the first prime > minister > > of Sri Lanka.> > > > > > Strong Mercury gave him the Rajayoga, but has Papa (or kroora)

> > Argala from 12th lord Sun (Father). In the natal chart, Saturn > and > > Rahu obstruct argala of Sun, and promised to activate the Raja > yoga > > when the time comes. As soon as Saturn antar dasa came, his > father > > died and he became the PM.> > > > > > See the Navamsa. Jupiter is in Capricorn, trine to Virgo. So Tr > > Saturn damage father's life as Jupiter is the lord of the 8th > from > > 9th house of Rasi. This proves, all negative effects come from > the > > bhavas related to planets in trine or 7th from the Sign of Tr > Saturn > > in Navamsa.

> > > > > > Did you find in your Navamsa chart any planets in Trine or 7th > to > > Cancer ?> > > > > > Perhaps there can be many reasons, but I use this simple rule > from > > Devakaralam.> > > > > > Best Wishes> > > Karu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh > > > sohamsa

> > > Thursday, November 02, 2006 8:51 PM> > > Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-Respected > > Sir Dakshinamoorthy ji> > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > Namaste Ramdas Raoji,> > > > > > Thanks for your learned explanation and bracing words. As you > > said, > > > Mother's grace can indeed ward off all evils, as do blessings > > from > > > good people like you. > > > > > > I do agree that a strong Jupiter in lagna gives me a lot of > > immunity. > > > I was also wondering if Saturn's association with the 8th > > house/lord > > > in the natal chart has something to do with this, because > Partha

> > had > > > also not experienced any malefic results of ashtama shani and > he > > has > > > Saturn in 8th house (cancer) in his natal chart. Ofcourse he > also

> > had > > > Rahu dasa running and Rahu aspects 9th house, as does his > > dispositor, > > > Venus.> > > > > > This is just a thought...> > > > > > Regards,> > > Lakshmi> > > > > >

sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao@> wrote:> > > >> > > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH> > > > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

> > > > Dear Lakshmi Ji,> > > > In your chart, Lagna lord Guru is in Lagna which is his Moola > > > Trikona Sthana and has got highest Shadbala strength.This > > indicates > > > God's Blessings are with you ,so no planetary afflictions > during > > > their transit will affect your life !!Eventhough Guru is in the > > > beginning of the Rashi, he is in Devalokamsha.Also he has > highest > > > Vimshopaka Bala.So either Sadesathi or Kantaka Shani or Ashtama > > Shani > > > will not affect you.Just see, you are born on Thursday, your > > Janma > > > Nakshatra is Poorvashada ruled by Shukra who in Navamsha is > > placed in > > > Kumbhamsha which is near to Ucchamsha.So this indicates Mother > > Lalita > > > Tripura Sundari's Blessings are with you.So how the other > Grahas > > in > > > their adverse positions will harm you ??> > > > I think you got the reply now.

> > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> > > > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh@>

> > > > sohamsa

> > > > Tuesday, 31 October, 2006 10:03:34 AM> > > > Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-> Respected > > Sir > > > Dakshinamoorthy ji> > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > > > Namaste friends,> > > > > > > > I have one query regarding ashtama shani. Saturn has been > > > transiting > > > > my 8th house (both from lagna and from moon) for the past two > > and > > > odd > > > > years, yet i have not faced any difficulty > > > whatsoever.. .healthwise, > > > > wealthwise or happinesswise! ! Except for a mild bout of > > jaundice > > > for > > > > my younger son, I have not experienced any difficulty, by > god's > > > > grace. On the contrary, infact, this period has been one of > the > > > > healthiest/happiest /most prosperous periods in my life, > > despite > > > the > > > > fact that i quit my job in may 2004!!> > > > > > > > I have observed from some of my friends' charts that ashtama > > shani > > > > has indeed been tough for them, so I am really puzzled and > > curious > > > > (also very thankful)as to how god has spared me. > > > > > > > > I request my friends to help me unravel this puzzle. This > would > > > also > > > > help me to understand what factors can counteract ashtama > > shani, > > > > though I agree that analysis of one's own chart may not be > the > > best

> > > > way to do that!!> > > > > > > > My birth data is > > > > > > > > September 1, 1960> > > > Time: 3:24:22 pm> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > Place: Hyderabad, AP (78 E 30', 17 N 20')> > > > > > > > If some one else has similar experience of a beneficial > ashtama > > > shani > > > > period(!!), i request them to share their birth data, so that > > it > > > > would help me in bettering my understanding.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Lakshmi> > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Kaartik Gor <astro_gor@ ..> > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Om Sai Ram> > > > > > > > > > Respected Sir,

> > > > > > > > > > You are right in 8'th lord in 10'th ...In my Dasamsa D10 my > > 8'th > > > > lord (Saturn) is in 10'th (deblitated in Mesh).> > > > > > > > > > Jyotish gives me lot of satisfaction. ...any particular > > reason ??> > > > > > > > > > ALso I am undergoing Saturn Mahadasha and my Mercury

> > antardasa is > > > > next which is also in 10'th house of D10....what are the > > effects of > > > > it being with a weak saturn ??> > > > > > > > > > I think a weak saturn actually is good ?? am I right ??

> > > > > > > > > > Any remedies for a better career...when will I get my > > promotion.> > > > > > > > > > Birth Data> > > > > > > > > > 04/05/1976> > > > > > > > > > 05:38:00 am> > > > > > > > > > Ahmedabad, Gujarat > > > > > > > > > > India

> > > > > > > > > > Lagna is Aries and Moon Sign is Gemini.> > > > > > > > > > Thanking you in advance.> > > > > > > > > > Kaartik Gor

> > > > > > > > > > dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer@ ...> wrote:> > > > > Dear Member:> > > > > > > > > > As I have repeatedly said in my earlier posts, 8th lord in > > the > > > 10th > > > > > house is definitely not a good indicator for professional > > > > > satisfaction. In ashtakavarga chart (SAV), the no. of > bindus > > in > > > the > > > > > 12th house is significantly more than the no. of bindus in > > either > > > > > 10th house (service), 11th house (business) or even > > lagna....so, > > > on > > > > a > > > > > mundane level, your professional aspects look quite tough! > > > However, > > > > > in your case, the 6th lord Mars is also in the 10th. The > > > > combination > > > > > of 6th and 8th house lords may give mild vipareetha raaja > > yoga > > > (by > > > > > traditional definitions, this is not vipareeta raja yoga; > by > > > > > tradition, the bad house lord should be in another bad > > > house...but > > > > in > > > > > practice, the combination of two bad lords does produce > some > > > > > vipareeta raaja yoga effects in many real cases. Astro > > > researchers > > > > > of this forum may check whether this " hypothesis " works!). > > Mars > > > in > > > > > your case, is also the lagna lord and it is in the house of > > its > > > > yoga > > > > > kaaraka Moreover, your 10th lord is in the 11th house which > > > > > indicates gains from one's profession. So, in my opinion, > you > > may > > > > be > > > > > able to get a sudden life in your profession especially > after > > > your > > > > > 41st year. Kindly try to consolidate yourself in any > position > > not > > > > > only now, but even in the future. Take only considered > steps > > in > > > > > profession.> > > > > > > > > > Regarding spirituality, you will gain a lot by worship of > > Lord > > > > > Krishna signigying Moon....this will give you rare > spiritual > > > > > awakenings. Reading of Bhagavat Gita and Naaraayaneeyam > will > > be > > > > > auspicious to you. (Moon conjunct Rahu and Jupiter...Moon > is > > the > > > > 9th > > > > > house lord; Jupiter is the 5th house lord). Similarly, > > worship of > > > > > Lord Lakshmi Narasimha or Goddess Pratiyangira will help > you > > to > > > > > awaken your kundalini shakti. (do either one...kindly do > not > > do > > > > both > > > > > at the same time if you are doing serious sadhanaas... I > have > > a > > > > strong > > > > > reason to say this though I would not like to divulge it to > > you > > > > now).> > > > > > > > > > Your spiritual life seems very promising. For success in > > > > > professional aspects, satisfy Sun by chanting 'Shri Raama > > > > > Pattaabhisheka sargam " with devotion regularly.

> > > > > > > > > > Regarding ashtama sani, you will be out of its grasp from > > > November > > > > > 2006. so, nothing to worry about the future due to ashtama > > sani. > > > > The > > > > > worst is probably over for you!> > > > > > > > > > Blessed be.> > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI

..> > > > > > > > > > In vedic astrology, " mgoel1973 " > > <mgoel1973@> > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Respected Sir,

> > > > > > My DOB is 16/9/72 and time is 12:22 pm.place of birth > > roorkee.> > > > > > > > > > > > Sir,> > > > > > Am I going under the period of ashtama shani.How this > will > > > affect > > > > > me.I > > > > > > am not doing well in the job area.What remedies should I > do > > for > > > > > better > > > > > > job prospects and all round satisfaction, Sir,I am also > > > spritually > > > > > > inclined.What has the fate in store for me ?> > > > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Dear Shri Ramadas Rao,

I will be losing my job by month end for the 2nd time in few

months. Can you please find time to let me know when will I get a

job? My birth date is 23-3-1960 3.50 AM Gulbarga. My moon is in

makara rasi.

I am also going through Ashtama shani and I have multiple problems

at this time.

With Best Regards

Yamini

sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote:

>

> OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

> OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

> Dear Lakshmi Ji,

> Thanks for your views.Please check Partha's chart and I hope you

will get the answer.

> With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

> Ramadas Rao.

>

> b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste Ramadas Raoji,

>

> Thanks for sharing your ashtama shani experiences with us. Your

> Saturn is not only lagna/2nd lord and shubhapati, but is also

posited

> in the 9th house...indicating your great spirituality and dharmic

> nature. For such a person, it's no wonder that ashtama shani

turned

> out to be beneficial. So, my conjecture about ashtama shani (in

> tandem with Tr Jupiter)triggering karmic life-events is not

incorrect.

>

> Another point you've made about the lord of ashtama bhava being in

> Pushkaramsa and that having made the ashtama shani is also very

> interesting and thought provoking. incidentally, my 8th lord, moon

is

> also in pushkaramsa. Is Partha's moon also in pushkaramsa? I'll

have

> to check!!

>

> regards,

> Lakshmi

>

> sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao@> wrote:

> >

> > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

> > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

> > Dear Lakshmi Ji and other members of this list,

> > It is very interesting to read everybody's experiences during

the

> difficult transits of Shani.

> > Now let me give some inputs of Shani's transit over 8th house

> from Lagna and Chandra in my life for the 1st time.Shani entered

> Simha Rashi on 7/9/1977 and entered Kanya Rashi on

27/7/1980.During

> the beginning of Shani's transit I was working in a Central -State

> government company and my salary was just revised just befor Shani

> entered Simha Rashi.In 1978,between April to May, there was a

strike

> in our company,so there was no salary for one month but by May

end,

> the strike ended with success and we got the salary for the strike

> period and also got promoted to a higher category from July

> 1978.During the same period, my engagement was fixed and I got

> married on 17th of Nov.1978.We both of us went to different places

> during Jan.1979 including Tirupaty and Mantralaya Shri Raghavendra

> Swami Ji Brindavan.On Oct.1979, I was blessed with a male child

> also.Shani left Simha rashi on 27/7/1980.So during this whole

trasnit

> of Shani on 8th house from Lagna and Chandra was a Blessed one

> > for me.During the above said period,Guru in transit was in

Mithuna

> ( 6th house ), 7th house in 1978 and then in 1979 -1980 in Simha

> Rashi in 8th house.So this clearly indicates Shani's transit in

8th

> house from Lagna and Chandra Rashi has given beneficial

results.For

> Makara Lagna, Shani is Lagna and 2nd house lord and is a benefic

for

> this Lagna.Another important thing I learnt from this transit is

> eventhough the transit of Shani over 8th house is bad ,if his sign

> lord ie., Surya is placed in Meena Rashi in 3rd from both Lagna

and

> Chandra and is in Pushkaramsha.This Surya's Pushkaramsha has

lifted

> me and blessed with auspicious results during the Shani's transit

> over Simha Rashi.During the above transit, Guru-Shani, Guru-Budha

and

> Guru-Ketu was running using 360 Savana days per year.Now Shani

again

> came to Simha rashi which is 8th from Lagna and Chandra.I pray God

> that this transit also proves beneficial to me in all the ways.

> > I am sharing this experience to all the members of the list for

> further discussion.

> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

> > Ramadas Rao.

> >

> > b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Dear Karu,

> >

> > Namaste.

> >

> > It was very interesting to read about your experiences during

> Saturn

> > transit. I also agree that Saturn is one planet who teaches us

hard

> > lessons and he's always kind to those who are willing to learn.

> >

> > Regarding Partha, he's like a child...walking out in a huff when

> he's

> > hurt or angry, like we all are at some or other juncture in

life.

> But

> > I must say that his affection for SJC and Guruji never wavered,

and

> I

> > very much consider him as one of us.

> >

> > Thanks for bringing it to my notice because curiously enough

this

> > ashtama shani seems to have favourably impacted on the chara

karaka

> > (twa)s of the planets in trines & aspected by Tr Saturn in

> > navamsa...he's gained a lovely wife and a better job (moon as

DK),

> > he's soon going to be a proud father (Mercury-PK), he's found

> > nurturing/protection from an equally lovely mother-like person

> > (Saturn as MK) and perhaps he's coming into his own or evolving

as

> a

> > person too(Sun as AK).

> >

> > It could also have happened because Tr Jupiter was

simultaneously

> > aspecting his natal 3rd, 5th, 6th, 7th and 9th houses by

rasi/graha

> > drishtis.

> >

> > Manifestation of dharmic & karmic connections?

> >

> > I do not know if he's found a Guru too.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Lakshmi

> >

> > sohamsa , " Karu " <heen@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hare Rama Krshna

> > >

> > > Dear Lakshmi,

> > >

> > > I finished a real bad time when Saturn transit in Gemini, in

my

> > Lagna. I have Rahu, Moon, Guru, Venus in trine to Gemini in

navamsa

> > and I suffered a lot. Gemini is A5 and I forget all Manthra and

> > cleared the path for Yama Raj. When the Saturn in exact degrees

of

> > Lagna, I lost all control over Dhi.

> > >

> > > But, due to blessings of Guru, I consider this was one of the

> best

> > time in my life. It removed fear of death, and gave me many in

> > retun. If I not face such terible time, I still consider God as

> > enemies, and still my heart beat is depending on out siders.

> > >

> > > So Lakshmi, Why we are waiting for only adverse effects when

> Saturn

> > transit over 8th or any bad places ? For spiritual progress,

this

> is

> > a disguise blessing.

> > >

> > > Partha has Sun and Moon in trine. Can you remember Partha

> > dissapointed and left us ? How do you explain this ? Is this has

> some

> > thing to do with Mana and self ? Again this is only a one angle

of

> > looking. We may learn in more in future. Yes, Murthi also has

lot

> to

> > do.

> > > Please pass my regards to Sasank and Ramesh. My best wishes

and

> > congradulation for his win.

> > >

> > > Here is the chart of X PM.

> > >

> > > Dudley Senanayake

> > > June 19, 1911

> > > Time: 12:15:51 pm

> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > Place: 79 E 51' 00 " , 6 N 56' 00 "

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Karu

> > >

> > > -

> > > b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > > sohamsa

> > > Tuesday, November 07, 2006 1:06 AM

> > > Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-

Respected

> > Sir Dakshinamoorthy ji

> > >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > >

> > > Dear Karu,

> > >

> > > Namaste. No, I can't see the attachment, because

do

> > not

> > > store attachments. Could you please give the birth data, so

that

> > I

> > > can generate the chart and appreciate your input better?

> > >

> > > Thanks for the input from Devakeralam. I appreciate the point

> > you've

> > > made. In navamsa, I do not have any planets in trines or in

7th

> > to Tr

> > > Saturn in cancer. Only Navamsa ascendant is in trines to Tr

> > saturn,

> > > so does that make any difference?

> > >

> > > But in Partha's case, there are planets in trines & 7th from

Tr

> > > Saturn, but he said that he did not feel the adverse impct of

> > ashtama

> > > shani.

> > >

> > > I think one needs to analyse the transit effect from all the

> > > perspectives of murthi, operating dasa, natal & navamsa

> > placements

> > > and perhaps consider what result is predominantly thrown up by

> > these

> > > examinations.

> > >

> > > Sasank (my younger son) sends his loving regards to his

favourite

> > > Karu uncle, and he's so happy that Australia won the Champions

> > > trophy.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Lakshmi

> > >

> > > sohamsa , " Karu " <heen@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lakshmi,

> > > > Please see the attached chart.

> > > >

> > > > In 1952, When Saturn is in Lagna, as well as 8th from the

Moon,

> > he

> > > was passing Mercury Mahadasa and Saturn Antar dasa. He became

the

> > > prime minister of Sri Lanka. His father was the first prime

> > minister

> > > of Sri Lanka.

> > > >

> > > > Strong Mercury gave him the Rajayoga, but has Papa (or

kroora)

> > > Argala from 12th lord Sun (Father). In the natal chart, Saturn

> > and

> > > Rahu obstruct argala of Sun, and promised to activate the Raja

> > yoga

> > > when the time comes. As soon as Saturn antar dasa came, his

> > father

> > > died and he became the PM.

> > > >

> > > > See the Navamsa. Jupiter is in Capricorn, trine to Virgo. So

Tr

> > > Saturn damage father's life as Jupiter is the lord of the 8th

> > from

> > > 9th house of Rasi. This proves, all negative effects come from

> > the

> > > bhavas related to planets in trine or 7th from the Sign of Tr

> > Saturn

> > > in Navamsa.

> > > >

> > > > Did you find in your Navamsa chart any planets in Trine or

7th

> > to

> > > Cancer ?

> > > >

> > > > Perhaps there can be many reasons, but I use this simple

rule

> > from

> > > Devakaralam.

> > > >

> > > > Best Wishes

> > > > Karu

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > > > sohamsa

> > > > Thursday, November 02, 2006 8:51 PM

> > > > Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-

Respected

> > > Sir Dakshinamoorthy ji

> > > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Ramdas Raoji,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for your learned explanation and bracing words. As

you

> > > said,

> > > > Mother's grace can indeed ward off all evils, as do

blessings

> > > from

> > > > good people like you.

> > > >

> > > > I do agree that a strong Jupiter in lagna gives me a lot of

> > > immunity.

> > > > I was also wondering if Saturn's association with the 8th

> > > house/lord

> > > > in the natal chart has something to do with this, because

> > Partha

> > > had

> > > > also not experienced any malefic results of ashtama shani

and

> > he

> > > has

> > > > Saturn in 8th house (cancer) in his natal chart. Ofcourse he

> > also

> > > had

> > > > Rahu dasa running and Rahu aspects 9th house, as does his

> > > dispositor,

> > > > Venus.

> > > >

> > > > This is just a thought...

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Lakshmi

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

> > > > > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

> > > > > Dear Lakshmi Ji,

> > > > > In your chart, Lagna lord Guru is in Lagna which is his

Moola

> > > > Trikona Sthana and has got highest Shadbala strength.This

> > > indicates

> > > > God's Blessings are with you ,so no planetary afflictions

> > during

> > > > their transit will affect your life !!Eventhough Guru is in

the

> > > > beginning of the Rashi, he is in Devalokamsha.Also he has

> > highest

> > > > Vimshopaka Bala.So either Sadesathi or Kantaka Shani or

Ashtama

> > > Shani

> > > > will not affect you.Just see, you are born on Thursday, your

> > > Janma

> > > > Nakshatra is Poorvashada ruled by Shukra who in Navamsha is

> > > placed in

> > > > Kumbhamsha which is near to Ucchamsha.So this indicates

Mother

> > > Lalita

> > > > Tripura Sundari's Blessings are with you.So how the other

> > Grahas

> > > in

> > > > their adverse positions will harm you ??

> > > > > I think you got the reply now.

> > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

> > > > > Ramadas Rao.

> > > > >

> > > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh@>

> > > > > sohamsa

> > > > > Tuesday, 31 October, 2006 10:03:34 AM

> > > > > Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-

> > Respected

> > > Sir

> > > > Dakshinamoorthy ji

> > > > >

> > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste friends,

> > > > >

> > > > > I have one query regarding ashtama shani. Saturn has been

> > > > transiting

> > > > > my 8th house (both from lagna and from moon) for the past

two

> > > and

> > > > odd

> > > > > years, yet i have not faced any difficulty

> > > > whatsoever.. .healthwise,

> > > > > wealthwise or happinesswise! ! Except for a mild bout of

> > > jaundice

> > > > for

> > > > > my younger son, I have not experienced any difficulty, by

> > god's

> > > > > grace. On the contrary, infact, this period has been one

of

> > the

> > > > > healthiest/happiest /most prosperous periods in my life,

> > > despite

> > > > the

> > > > > fact that i quit my job in may 2004!!

> > > > >

> > > > > I have observed from some of my friends' charts that

ashtama

> > > shani

> > > > > has indeed been tough for them, so I am really puzzled and

> > > curious

> > > > > (also very thankful)as to how god has spared me.

> > > > >

> > > > > I request my friends to help me unravel this puzzle. This

> > would

> > > > also

> > > > > help me to understand what factors can counteract ashtama

> > > shani,

> > > > > though I agree that analysis of one's own chart may not be

> > the

> > > best

> > > > > way to do that!!

> > > > >

> > > > > My birth data is

> > > > >

> > > > > September 1, 1960

> > > > > Time: 3:24:22 pm

> > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > > Place: Hyderabad, AP (78 E 30', 17 N 20')

> > > > >

> > > > > If some one else has similar experience of a beneficial

> > ashtama

> > > > shani

> > > > > period(!!), i request them to share their birth data, so

that

> > > it

> > > > > would help me in bettering my understanding.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Kaartik Gor

<astro_gor@ ..>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Om Sai Ram

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Sir,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You are right in 8'th lord in 10'th ...In my Dasamsa D10

my

> > > 8'th

> > > > > lord (Saturn) is in 10'th (deblitated in Mesh).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Jyotish gives me lot of satisfaction. ...any particular

> > > reason ??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ALso I am undergoing Saturn Mahadasha and my Mercury

> > > antardasa is

> > > > > next which is also in 10'th house of D10....what are the

> > > effects of

> > > > > it being with a weak saturn ??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I think a weak saturn actually is good ?? am I right ??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Any remedies for a better career...when will I get my

> > > promotion.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Birth Data

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 04/05/1976

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 05:38:00 am

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ahmedabad, Gujarat

> > > > > >

> > > > > > India

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lagna is Aries and Moon Sign is Gemini.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanking you in advance.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Kaartik Gor

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Member:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As I have repeatedly said in my earlier posts, 8th lord

in

> > > the

> > > > 10th

> > > > > > house is definitely not a good indicator for

professional

> > > > > > satisfaction. In ashtakavarga chart (SAV), the no. of

> > bindus

> > > in

> > > > the

> > > > > > 12th house is significantly more than the no. of bindus

in

> > > either

> > > > > > 10th house (service), 11th house (business) or even

> > > lagna....so,

> > > > on

> > > > > a

> > > > > > mundane level, your professional aspects look quite

tough!

> > > > However,

> > > > > > in your case, the 6th lord Mars is also in the 10th. The

> > > > > combination

> > > > > > of 6th and 8th house lords may give mild vipareetha

raaja

> > > yoga

> > > > (by

> > > > > > traditional definitions, this is not vipareeta raja

yoga;

> > by

> > > > > > tradition, the bad house lord should be in another bad

> > > > house...but

> > > > > in

> > > > > > practice, the combination of two bad lords does produce

> > some

> > > > > > vipareeta raaja yoga effects in many real cases. Astro

> > > > researchers

> > > > > > of this forum may check whether this " hypothesis "

works!).

> > > Mars

> > > > in

> > > > > > your case, is also the lagna lord and it is in the house

of

> > > its

> > > > > yoga

> > > > > > kaaraka Moreover, your 10th lord is in the 11th house

which

> > > > > > indicates gains from one's profession. So, in my

opinion,

> > you

> > > may

> > > > > be

> > > > > > able to get a sudden life in your profession especially

> > after

> > > > your

> > > > > > 41st year. Kindly try to consolidate yourself in any

> > position

> > > not

> > > > > > only now, but even in the future. Take only considered

> > steps

> > > in

> > > > > > profession.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regarding spirituality, you will gain a lot by worship

of

> > > Lord

> > > > > > Krishna signigying Moon....this will give you rare

> > spiritual

> > > > > > awakenings. Reading of Bhagavat Gita and Naaraayaneeyam

> > will

> > > be

> > > > > > auspicious to you. (Moon conjunct Rahu and

Jupiter...Moon

> > is

> > > the

> > > > > 9th

> > > > > > house lord; Jupiter is the 5th house lord). Similarly,

> > > worship of

> > > > > > Lord Lakshmi Narasimha or Goddess Pratiyangira will help

> > you

> > > to

> > > > > > awaken your kundalini shakti. (do either one...kindly do

> > not

> > > do

> > > > > both

> > > > > > at the same time if you are doing serious sadhanaas... I

> > have

> > > a

> > > > > strong

> > > > > > reason to say this though I would not like to divulge it

to

> > > you

> > > > > now).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Your spiritual life seems very promising. For success in

> > > > > > professional aspects, satisfy Sun by chanting 'Shri

Raama

> > > > > > Pattaabhisheka sargam " with devotion regularly.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regarding ashtama sani, you will be out of its grasp

from

> > > > November

> > > > > > 2006. so, nothing to worry about the future due to

ashtama

> > > sani.

> > > > > The

> > > > > > worst is probably over for you!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In vedic astrology, " mgoel1973 "

> > > <mgoel1973@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected Sir,

> > > > > > > My DOB is 16/9/72 and time is 12:22 pm.place of birth

> > > roorkee.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sir,

> > > > > > > Am I going under the period of ashtama shani.How this

> > will

> > > > affect

> > > > > > me.I

> > > > > > > am not doing well in the job area.What remedies should

I

> > do

> > > for

> > > > > > better

> > > > > > > job prospects and all round satisfaction, Sir,I am

also

> > > > spritually

> > > > > > > inclined.What has the fate in store for me ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

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November 9, 2006

Om Gurave Namah

Namaste Ramdas Raoji,

Yes, Partha's moon, his 8th lord, is also in pushkara navamsa as well

as in pushkara bhaga. This information is given by Partha himself.

So, your point about 8th lord's strength turning ashtama shani into a

beneficial experience is already proved in 3 cases. Perhaps other

friends would share their experiences & feelings. The following is

the table given by Partha about pushkara navamsa.

Mesha sign

Thul navamsa(7th)

Dhanu navamsa(9th)

Vrishabha sign

Vrishabh navamsa(5rd)

Meen navamsa(3rd)

Mithun sign

Vrishabh navamsa(8th )

Meen navamsa(6th)

Karka sign

Kanya navamsa(3rd)

Karka navamsa(1st)

Simha sign

Thul navamsa(7th)

Dhanu navamsa(9th)

Kanya sign

Vrishabh navamsa(5th)

Meen navamsa(3rd)

Thul sign

Vrishabh navamsa(8th)

Meen navamsa(6th)

Vrischik sign

Kanya navamsa(3rd)

Karka navamsa(1st)

Dhanu sign

Thul navamsa(7th)

Dhanu navamsa(9th)

Makar sign

Vrishabh navamsa(5th)

Meen navamsa(3rd)

Kumbh sign

Vrishabh navamsa(8th)

Meen navamsa(6th)

Meen sign

Kanya navamsa(3rd)

Karka navamsa(1st)

Regards,

Lakshmi

sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote:

>

> OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

> OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

> Dear Lakshmi Ji,

> Thanks for your views.Please check Partha's chart and I hope you

will get the answer.

> With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

> Ramadas Rao.

>

> b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste Ramadas Raoji,

>

> Thanks for sharing your ashtama shani experiences with us. Your

> Saturn is not only lagna/2nd lord and shubhapati, but is also

posited

> in the 9th house...indicating your great spirituality and dharmic

> nature. For such a person, it's no wonder that ashtama shani turned

> out to be beneficial. So, my conjecture about ashtama shani (in

> tandem with Tr Jupiter)triggering karmic life-events is not

incorrect.

>

> Another point you've made about the lord of ashtama bhava being in

> Pushkaramsa and that having made the ashtama shani is also very

> interesting and thought provoking. incidentally, my 8th lord, moon

is

> also in pushkaramsa. Is Partha's moon also in pushkaramsa? I'll

have

> to check!!

>

> regards,

> Lakshmi

>

> sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao@> wrote:

> >

> > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

> > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

> > Dear Lakshmi Ji and other members of this list,

> > It is very interesting to read everybody's experiences during the

> difficult transits of Shani.

> > Now let me give some inputs of Shani's transit over 8th house

> from Lagna and Chandra in my life for the 1st time.Shani entered

> Simha Rashi on 7/9/1977 and entered Kanya Rashi on 27/7/1980.During

> the beginning of Shani's transit I was working in a Central -State

> government company and my salary was just revised just befor Shani

> entered Simha Rashi.In 1978,between April to May, there was a

strike

> in our company,so there was no salary for one month but by May end,

> the strike ended with success and we got the salary for the strike

> period and also got promoted to a higher category from July

> 1978.During the same period, my engagement was fixed and I got

> married on 17th of Nov.1978.We both of us went to different places

> during Jan.1979 including Tirupaty and Mantralaya Shri Raghavendra

> Swami Ji Brindavan.On Oct.1979, I was blessed with a male child

> also.Shani left Simha rashi on 27/7/1980.So during this whole

trasnit

> of Shani on 8th house from Lagna and Chandra was a Blessed one

> > for me.During the above said period,Guru in transit was in

Mithuna

> ( 6th house ), 7th house in 1978 and then in 1979 -1980 in Simha

> Rashi in 8th house.So this clearly indicates Shani's transit in 8th

> house from Lagna and Chandra Rashi has given beneficial results.For

> Makara Lagna, Shani is Lagna and 2nd house lord and is a benefic

for

> this Lagna.Another important thing I learnt from this transit is

> eventhough the transit of Shani over 8th house is bad ,if his sign

> lord ie., Surya is placed in Meena Rashi in 3rd from both Lagna and

> Chandra and is in Pushkaramsha.This Surya's Pushkaramsha has lifted

> me and blessed with auspicious results during the Shani's transit

> over Simha Rashi.During the above transit, Guru-Shani, Guru-Budha

and

> Guru-Ketu was running using 360 Savana days per year.Now Shani

again

> came to Simha rashi which is 8th from Lagna and Chandra.I pray God

> that this transit also proves beneficial to me in all the ways.

> > I am sharing this experience to all the members of the list for

> further discussion.

> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

> > Ramadas Rao.

> >

> > b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Dear Karu,

> >

> > Namaste.

> >

> > It was very interesting to read about your experiences during

> Saturn

> > transit. I also agree that Saturn is one planet who teaches us

hard

> > lessons and he's always kind to those who are willing to learn.

> >

> > Regarding Partha, he's like a child...walking out in a huff when

> he's

> > hurt or angry, like we all are at some or other juncture in life.

> But

> > I must say that his affection for SJC and Guruji never wavered,

and

> I

> > very much consider him as one of us.

> >

> > Thanks for bringing it to my notice because curiously enough this

> > ashtama shani seems to have favourably impacted on the chara

karaka

> > (twa)s of the planets in trines & aspected by Tr Saturn in

> > navamsa...he's gained a lovely wife and a better job (moon as

DK),

> > he's soon going to be a proud father (Mercury-PK), he's found

> > nurturing/protection from an equally lovely mother-like person

> > (Saturn as MK) and perhaps he's coming into his own or evolving

as

> a

> > person too(Sun as AK).

> >

> > It could also have happened because Tr Jupiter was simultaneously

> > aspecting his natal 3rd, 5th, 6th, 7th and 9th houses by

rasi/graha

> > drishtis.

> >

> > Manifestation of dharmic & karmic connections?

> >

> > I do not know if he's found a Guru too.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Lakshmi

> >

> > sohamsa , " Karu " <heen@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hare Rama Krshna

> > >

> > > Dear Lakshmi,

> > >

> > > I finished a real bad time when Saturn transit in Gemini, in my

> > Lagna. I have Rahu, Moon, Guru, Venus in trine to Gemini in

navamsa

> > and I suffered a lot. Gemini is A5 and I forget all Manthra and

> > cleared the path for Yama Raj. When the Saturn in exact degrees

of

> > Lagna, I lost all control over Dhi.

> > >

> > > But, due to blessings of Guru, I consider this was one of the

> best

> > time in my life. It removed fear of death, and gave me many in

> > retun. If I not face such terible time, I still consider God as

> > enemies, and still my heart beat is depending on out siders.

> > >

> > > So Lakshmi, Why we are waiting for only adverse effects when

> Saturn

> > transit over 8th or any bad places ? For spiritual progress, this

> is

> > a disguise blessing.

> > >

> > > Partha has Sun and Moon in trine. Can you remember Partha

> > dissapointed and left us ? How do you explain this ? Is this has

> some

> > thing to do with Mana and self ? Again this is only a one angle

of

> > looking. We may learn in more in future. Yes, Murthi also has lot

> to

> > do.

> > > Please pass my regards to Sasank and Ramesh. My best wishes and

> > congradulation for his win.

> > >

> > > Here is the chart of X PM.

> > >

> > > Dudley Senanayake

> > > June 19, 1911

> > > Time: 12:15:51 pm

> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > Place: 79 E 51' 00 " , 6 N 56' 00 "

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Karu

> > >

> > > -

> > > b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > > sohamsa

> > > Tuesday, November 07, 2006 1:06 AM

> > > Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-Respected

> > Sir Dakshinamoorthy ji

> > >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > >

> > > Dear Karu,

> > >

> > > Namaste. No, I can't see the attachment, because

do

> > not

> > > store attachments. Could you please give the birth data, so

that

> > I

> > > can generate the chart and appreciate your input better?

> > >

> > > Thanks for the input from Devakeralam. I appreciate the point

> > you've

> > > made. In navamsa, I do not have any planets in trines or in 7th

> > to Tr

> > > Saturn in cancer. Only Navamsa ascendant is in trines to Tr

> > saturn,

> > > so does that make any difference?

> > >

> > > But in Partha's case, there are planets in trines & 7th from Tr

> > > Saturn, but he said that he did not feel the adverse impct of

> > ashtama

> > > shani.

> > >

> > > I think one needs to analyse the transit effect from all the

> > > perspectives of murthi, operating dasa, natal & navamsa

> > placements

> > > and perhaps consider what result is predominantly thrown up by

> > these

> > > examinations.

> > >

> > > Sasank (my younger son) sends his loving regards to his

favourite

> > > Karu uncle, and he's so happy that Australia won the Champions

> > > trophy.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Lakshmi

> > >

> > > sohamsa , " Karu " <heen@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lakshmi,

> > > > Please see the attached chart.

> > > >

> > > > In 1952, When Saturn is in Lagna, as well as 8th from the

Moon,

> > he

> > > was passing Mercury Mahadasa and Saturn Antar dasa. He became

the

> > > prime minister of Sri Lanka. His father was the first prime

> > minister

> > > of Sri Lanka.

> > > >

> > > > Strong Mercury gave him the Rajayoga, but has Papa (or

kroora)

> > > Argala from 12th lord Sun (Father). In the natal chart, Saturn

> > and

> > > Rahu obstruct argala of Sun, and promised to activate the Raja

> > yoga

> > > when the time comes. As soon as Saturn antar dasa came, his

> > father

> > > died and he became the PM.

> > > >

> > > > See the Navamsa. Jupiter is in Capricorn, trine to Virgo. So

Tr

> > > Saturn damage father's life as Jupiter is the lord of the 8th

> > from

> > > 9th house of Rasi. This proves, all negative effects come from

> > the

> > > bhavas related to planets in trine or 7th from the Sign of Tr

> > Saturn

> > > in Navamsa.

> > > >

> > > > Did you find in your Navamsa chart any planets in Trine or

7th

> > to

> > > Cancer ?

> > > >

> > > > Perhaps there can be many reasons, but I use this simple rule

> > from

> > > Devakaralam.

> > > >

> > > > Best Wishes

> > > > Karu

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > > > sohamsa

> > > > Thursday, November 02, 2006 8:51 PM

> > > > Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-

Respected

> > > Sir Dakshinamoorthy ji

> > > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Ramdas Raoji,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for your learned explanation and bracing words. As you

> > > said,

> > > > Mother's grace can indeed ward off all evils, as do blessings

> > > from

> > > > good people like you.

> > > >

> > > > I do agree that a strong Jupiter in lagna gives me a lot of

> > > immunity.

> > > > I was also wondering if Saturn's association with the 8th

> > > house/lord

> > > > in the natal chart has something to do with this, because

> > Partha

> > > had

> > > > also not experienced any malefic results of ashtama shani and

> > he

> > > has

> > > > Saturn in 8th house (cancer) in his natal chart. Ofcourse he

> > also

> > > had

> > > > Rahu dasa running and Rahu aspects 9th house, as does his

> > > dispositor,

> > > > Venus.

> > > >

> > > > This is just a thought...

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Lakshmi

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

> > > > > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

> > > > > Dear Lakshmi Ji,

> > > > > In your chart, Lagna lord Guru is in Lagna which is his

Moola

> > > > Trikona Sthana and has got highest Shadbala strength.This

> > > indicates

> > > > God's Blessings are with you ,so no planetary afflictions

> > during

> > > > their transit will affect your life !!Eventhough Guru is in

the

> > > > beginning of the Rashi, he is in Devalokamsha.Also he has

> > highest

> > > > Vimshopaka Bala.So either Sadesathi or Kantaka Shani or

Ashtama

> > > Shani

> > > > will not affect you.Just see, you are born on Thursday, your

> > > Janma

> > > > Nakshatra is Poorvashada ruled by Shukra who in Navamsha is

> > > placed in

> > > > Kumbhamsha which is near to Ucchamsha.So this indicates

Mother

> > > Lalita

> > > > Tripura Sundari's Blessings are with you.So how the other

> > Grahas

> > > in

> > > > their adverse positions will harm you ??

> > > > > I think you got the reply now.

> > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

> > > > > Ramadas Rao.

> > > > >

> > > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh@>

> > > > > sohamsa

> > > > > Tuesday, 31 October, 2006 10:03:34 AM

> > > > > Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-

> > Respected

> > > Sir

> > > > Dakshinamoorthy ji

> > > > >

> > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste friends,

> > > > >

> > > > > I have one query regarding ashtama shani. Saturn has been

> > > > transiting

> > > > > my 8th house (both from lagna and from moon) for the past

two

> > > and

> > > > odd

> > > > > years, yet i have not faced any difficulty

> > > > whatsoever.. .healthwise,

> > > > > wealthwise or happinesswise! ! Except for a mild bout of

> > > jaundice

> > > > for

> > > > > my younger son, I have not experienced any difficulty, by

> > god's

> > > > > grace. On the contrary, infact, this period has been one of

> > the

> > > > > healthiest/happiest /most prosperous periods in my life,

> > > despite

> > > > the

> > > > > fact that i quit my job in may 2004!!

> > > > >

> > > > > I have observed from some of my friends' charts that

ashtama

> > > shani

> > > > > has indeed been tough for them, so I am really puzzled and

> > > curious

> > > > > (also very thankful)as to how god has spared me.

> > > > >

> > > > > I request my friends to help me unravel this puzzle. This

> > would

> > > > also

> > > > > help me to understand what factors can counteract ashtama

> > > shani,

> > > > > though I agree that analysis of one's own chart may not be

> > the

> > > best

> > > > > way to do that!!

> > > > >

> > > > > My birth data is

> > > > >

> > > > > September 1, 1960

> > > > > Time: 3:24:22 pm

> > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > > Place: Hyderabad, AP (78 E 30', 17 N 20')

> > > > >

> > > > > If some one else has similar experience of a beneficial

> > ashtama

> > > > shani

> > > > > period(!!), i request them to share their birth data, so

that

> > > it

> > > > > would help me in bettering my understanding.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Kaartik Gor

<astro_gor@ ..>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Om Sai Ram

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Sir,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You are right in 8'th lord in 10'th ...In my Dasamsa D10

my

> > > 8'th

> > > > > lord (Saturn) is in 10'th (deblitated in Mesh).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Jyotish gives me lot of satisfaction. ...any particular

> > > reason ??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ALso I am undergoing Saturn Mahadasha and my Mercury

> > > antardasa is

> > > > > next which is also in 10'th house of D10....what are the

> > > effects of

> > > > > it being with a weak saturn ??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I think a weak saturn actually is good ?? am I right ??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Any remedies for a better career...when will I get my

> > > promotion.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Birth Data

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 04/05/1976

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 05:38:00 am

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ahmedabad, Gujarat

> > > > > >

> > > > > > India

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lagna is Aries and Moon Sign is Gemini.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanking you in advance.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Kaartik Gor

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Member:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As I have repeatedly said in my earlier posts, 8th lord

in

> > > the

> > > > 10th

> > > > > > house is definitely not a good indicator for professional

> > > > > > satisfaction. In ashtakavarga chart (SAV), the no. of

> > bindus

> > > in

> > > > the

> > > > > > 12th house is significantly more than the no. of bindus

in

> > > either

> > > > > > 10th house (service), 11th house (business) or even

> > > lagna....so,

> > > > on

> > > > > a

> > > > > > mundane level, your professional aspects look quite

tough!

> > > > However,

> > > > > > in your case, the 6th lord Mars is also in the 10th. The

> > > > > combination

> > > > > > of 6th and 8th house lords may give mild vipareetha raaja

> > > yoga

> > > > (by

> > > > > > traditional definitions, this is not vipareeta raja yoga;

> > by

> > > > > > tradition, the bad house lord should be in another bad

> > > > house...but

> > > > > in

> > > > > > practice, the combination of two bad lords does produce

> > some

> > > > > > vipareeta raaja yoga effects in many real cases. Astro

> > > > researchers

> > > > > > of this forum may check whether this " hypothesis "

works!).

> > > Mars

> > > > in

> > > > > > your case, is also the lagna lord and it is in the house

of

> > > its

> > > > > yoga

> > > > > > kaaraka Moreover, your 10th lord is in the 11th house

which

> > > > > > indicates gains from one's profession. So, in my opinion,

> > you

> > > may

> > > > > be

> > > > > > able to get a sudden life in your profession especially

> > after

> > > > your

> > > > > > 41st year. Kindly try to consolidate yourself in any

> > position

> > > not

> > > > > > only now, but even in the future. Take only considered

> > steps

> > > in

> > > > > > profession.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regarding spirituality, you will gain a lot by worship of

> > > Lord

> > > > > > Krishna signigying Moon....this will give you rare

> > spiritual

> > > > > > awakenings. Reading of Bhagavat Gita and Naaraayaneeyam

> > will

> > > be

> > > > > > auspicious to you. (Moon conjunct Rahu and Jupiter...Moon

> > is

> > > the

> > > > > 9th

> > > > > > house lord; Jupiter is the 5th house lord). Similarly,

> > > worship of

> > > > > > Lord Lakshmi Narasimha or Goddess Pratiyangira will help

> > you

> > > to

> > > > > > awaken your kundalini shakti. (do either one...kindly do

> > not

> > > do

> > > > > both

> > > > > > at the same time if you are doing serious sadhanaas... I

> > have

> > > a

> > > > > strong

> > > > > > reason to say this though I would not like to divulge it

to

> > > you

> > > > > now).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Your spiritual life seems very promising. For success in

> > > > > > professional aspects, satisfy Sun by chanting 'Shri Raama

> > > > > > Pattaabhisheka sargam " with devotion regularly.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regarding ashtama sani, you will be out of its grasp from

> > > > November

> > > > > > 2006. so, nothing to worry about the future due to

ashtama

> > > sani.

> > > > > The

> > > > > > worst is probably over for you!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In vedic astrology, " mgoel1973 "

> > > <mgoel1973@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected Sir,

> > > > > > > My DOB is 16/9/72 and time is 12:22 pm.place of birth

> > > roorkee.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sir,

> > > > > > > Am I going under the period of ashtama shani.How this

> > will

> > > > affect

> > > > > > me.I

> > > > > > > am not doing well in the job area.What remedies should

I

> > do

> > > for

> > > > > > better

> > > > > > > job prospects and all round satisfaction, Sir,I am also

> > > > spritually

> > > > > > > inclined.What has the fate in store for me ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

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November 9, 2006

Om Gurave Namah

Namaste Ramdas Raoji,

Raghu Nemani's moon is also in pushkaramsa...and he did have a

successful period, though not without some bad & sad events...which

are perhaps attributable to Saturn's transit over natal Rahu?

Regards,

Lakshmi

sohamsa , " b_lakshmi_ramesh "

<b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

>

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste Ramdas Raoji,

>

> Yes, Partha's moon, his 8th lord, is also in pushkara navamsa as

well

> as in pushkara bhaga. This information is given by Partha himself.

>

> So, your point about 8th lord's strength turning ashtama shani into

a

> beneficial experience is already proved in 3 cases. Perhaps other

> friends would share their experiences & feelings. The following is

> the table given by Partha about pushkara navamsa.

>

> Mesha sign

> Thul navamsa(7th)

> Dhanu navamsa(9th)

>

> Vrishabha sign

> Vrishabh navamsa(5rd)

> Meen navamsa(3rd)

>

> Mithun sign

> Vrishabh navamsa(8th )

> Meen navamsa(6th)

>

> Karka sign

> Kanya navamsa(3rd)

> Karka navamsa(1st)

>

> Simha sign

> Thul navamsa(7th)

> Dhanu navamsa(9th)

>

> Kanya sign

> Vrishabh navamsa(5th)

> Meen navamsa(3rd)

>

> Thul sign

> Vrishabh navamsa(8th)

> Meen navamsa(6th)

>

> Vrischik sign

> Kanya navamsa(3rd)

> Karka navamsa(1st)

>

> Dhanu sign

> Thul navamsa(7th)

> Dhanu navamsa(9th)

>

> Makar sign

> Vrishabh navamsa(5th)

> Meen navamsa(3rd)

>

> Kumbh sign

> Vrishabh navamsa(8th)

> Meen navamsa(6th)

>

> Meen sign

> Kanya navamsa(3rd)

> Karka navamsa(1st)

>

> Regards,

> Lakshmi

>

> sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao@> wrote:

> >

> > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

> > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

> > Dear Lakshmi Ji,

> > Thanks for your views.Please check Partha's chart and I hope

you

> will get the answer.

> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

> > Ramadas Rao.

> >

> > b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Namaste Ramadas Raoji,

> >

> > Thanks for sharing your ashtama shani experiences with us. Your

> > Saturn is not only lagna/2nd lord and shubhapati, but is also

> posited

> > in the 9th house...indicating your great spirituality and dharmic

> > nature. For such a person, it's no wonder that ashtama shani

turned

> > out to be beneficial. So, my conjecture about ashtama shani (in

> > tandem with Tr Jupiter)triggering karmic life-events is not

> incorrect.

> >

> > Another point you've made about the lord of ashtama bhava being

in

> > Pushkaramsa and that having made the ashtama shani is also very

> > interesting and thought provoking. incidentally, my 8th lord,

moon

> is

> > also in pushkaramsa. Is Partha's moon also in pushkaramsa? I'll

> have

> > to check!!

> >

> > regards,

> > Lakshmi

> >

> > sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao@> wrote:

> > >

> > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

> > > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

> > > Dear Lakshmi Ji and other members of this list,

> > > It is very interesting to read everybody's experiences during

the

> > difficult transits of Shani.

> > > Now let me give some inputs of Shani's transit over 8th house

> > from Lagna and Chandra in my life for the 1st time.Shani entered

> > Simha Rashi on 7/9/1977 and entered Kanya Rashi on

27/7/1980.During

> > the beginning of Shani's transit I was working in a Central -

State

> > government company and my salary was just revised just befor

Shani

> > entered Simha Rashi.In 1978,between April to May, there was a

> strike

> > in our company,so there was no salary for one month but by May

end,

> > the strike ended with success and we got the salary for the

strike

> > period and also got promoted to a higher category from July

> > 1978.During the same period, my engagement was fixed and I got

> > married on 17th of Nov.1978.We both of us went to different

places

> > during Jan.1979 including Tirupaty and Mantralaya Shri

Raghavendra

> > Swami Ji Brindavan.On Oct.1979, I was blessed with a male child

> > also.Shani left Simha rashi on 27/7/1980.So during this whole

> trasnit

> > of Shani on 8th house from Lagna and Chandra was a Blessed one

> > > for me.During the above said period,Guru in transit was in

> Mithuna

> > ( 6th house ), 7th house in 1978 and then in 1979 -1980 in Simha

> > Rashi in 8th house.So this clearly indicates Shani's transit in

8th

> > house from Lagna and Chandra Rashi has given beneficial

results.For

> > Makara Lagna, Shani is Lagna and 2nd house lord and is a benefic

> for

> > this Lagna.Another important thing I learnt from this transit is

> > eventhough the transit of Shani over 8th house is bad ,if his

sign

> > lord ie., Surya is placed in Meena Rashi in 3rd from both Lagna

and

> > Chandra and is in Pushkaramsha.This Surya's Pushkaramsha has

lifted

> > me and blessed with auspicious results during the Shani's transit

> > over Simha Rashi.During the above transit, Guru-Shani, Guru-Budha

> and

> > Guru-Ketu was running using 360 Savana days per year.Now Shani

> again

> > came to Simha rashi which is 8th from Lagna and Chandra.I pray

God

> > that this transit also proves beneficial to me in all the ways.

> > > I am sharing this experience to all the members of the list for

> > further discussion.

> > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

> > > Ramadas Rao.

> > >

> > > b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > >

> > > Dear Karu,

> > >

> > > Namaste.

> > >

> > > It was very interesting to read about your experiences during

> > Saturn

> > > transit. I also agree that Saturn is one planet who teaches us

> hard

> > > lessons and he's always kind to those who are willing to learn.

> > >

> > > Regarding Partha, he's like a child...walking out in a huff

when

> > he's

> > > hurt or angry, like we all are at some or other juncture in

life.

> > But

> > > I must say that his affection for SJC and Guruji never wavered,

> and

> > I

> > > very much consider him as one of us.

> > >

> > > Thanks for bringing it to my notice because curiously enough

this

> > > ashtama shani seems to have favourably impacted on the chara

> karaka

> > > (twa)s of the planets in trines & aspected by Tr Saturn in

> > > navamsa...he's gained a lovely wife and a better job (moon as

> DK),

> > > he's soon going to be a proud father (Mercury-PK), he's found

> > > nurturing/protection from an equally lovely mother-like person

> > > (Saturn as MK) and perhaps he's coming into his own or evolving

> as

> > a

> > > person too(Sun as AK).

> > >

> > > It could also have happened because Tr Jupiter was

simultaneously

> > > aspecting his natal 3rd, 5th, 6th, 7th and 9th houses by

> rasi/graha

> > > drishtis.

> > >

> > > Manifestation of dharmic & karmic connections?

> > >

> > > I do not know if he's found a Guru too.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Lakshmi

> > >

> > > sohamsa , " Karu " <heen@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hare Rama Krshna

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lakshmi,

> > > >

> > > > I finished a real bad time when Saturn transit in Gemini, in

my

> > > Lagna. I have Rahu, Moon, Guru, Venus in trine to Gemini in

> navamsa

> > > and I suffered a lot. Gemini is A5 and I forget all Manthra and

> > > cleared the path for Yama Raj. When the Saturn in exact degrees

> of

> > > Lagna, I lost all control over Dhi.

> > > >

> > > > But, due to blessings of Guru, I consider this was one of the

> > best

> > > time in my life. It removed fear of death, and gave me many in

> > > retun. If I not face such terible time, I still consider God as

> > > enemies, and still my heart beat is depending on out siders.

> > > >

> > > > So Lakshmi, Why we are waiting for only adverse effects when

> > Saturn

> > > transit over 8th or any bad places ? For spiritual progress,

this

> > is

> > > a disguise blessing.

> > > >

> > > > Partha has Sun and Moon in trine. Can you remember Partha

> > > dissapointed and left us ? How do you explain this ? Is this

has

> > some

> > > thing to do with Mana and self ? Again this is only a one angle

> of

> > > looking. We may learn in more in future. Yes, Murthi also has

lot

> > to

> > > do.

> > > > Please pass my regards to Sasank and Ramesh. My best wishes

and

> > > congradulation for his win.

> > > >

> > > > Here is the chart of X PM.

> > > >

> > > > Dudley Senanayake

> > > > June 19, 1911

> > > > Time: 12:15:51 pm

> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > Place: 79 E 51' 00 " , 6 N 56' 00 "

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Karu

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > > > sohamsa

> > > > Tuesday, November 07, 2006 1:06 AM

> > > > Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-

Respected

> > > Sir Dakshinamoorthy ji

> > > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > >

> > > > Dear Karu,

> > > >

> > > > Namaste. No, I can't see the attachment, because

> do

> > > not

> > > > store attachments. Could you please give the birth data, so

> that

> > > I

> > > > can generate the chart and appreciate your input better?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for the input from Devakeralam. I appreciate the point

> > > you've

> > > > made. In navamsa, I do not have any planets in trines or in

7th

> > > to Tr

> > > > Saturn in cancer. Only Navamsa ascendant is in trines to Tr

> > > saturn,

> > > > so does that make any difference?

> > > >

> > > > But in Partha's case, there are planets in trines & 7th from

Tr

> > > > Saturn, but he said that he did not feel the adverse impct of

> > > ashtama

> > > > shani.

> > > >

> > > > I think one needs to analyse the transit effect from all the

> > > > perspectives of murthi, operating dasa, natal & navamsa

> > > placements

> > > > and perhaps consider what result is predominantly thrown up

by

> > > these

> > > > examinations.

> > > >

> > > > Sasank (my younger son) sends his loving regards to his

> favourite

> > > > Karu uncle, and he's so happy that Australia won the

Champions

> > > > trophy.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Lakshmi

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa , " Karu " <heen@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Lakshmi,

> > > > > Please see the attached chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > In 1952, When Saturn is in Lagna, as well as 8th from the

> Moon,

> > > he

> > > > was passing Mercury Mahadasa and Saturn Antar dasa. He became

> the

> > > > prime minister of Sri Lanka. His father was the first prime

> > > minister

> > > > of Sri Lanka.

> > > > >

> > > > > Strong Mercury gave him the Rajayoga, but has Papa (or

> kroora)

> > > > Argala from 12th lord Sun (Father). In the natal chart,

Saturn

> > > and

> > > > Rahu obstruct argala of Sun, and promised to activate the

Raja

> > > yoga

> > > > when the time comes. As soon as Saturn antar dasa came, his

> > > father

> > > > died and he became the PM.

> > > > >

> > > > > See the Navamsa. Jupiter is in Capricorn, trine to Virgo.

So

> Tr

> > > > Saturn damage father's life as Jupiter is the lord of the 8th

> > > from

> > > > 9th house of Rasi. This proves, all negative effects come

from

> > > the

> > > > bhavas related to planets in trine or 7th from the Sign of Tr

> > > Saturn

> > > > in Navamsa.

> > > > >

> > > > > Did you find in your Navamsa chart any planets in Trine or

> 7th

> > > to

> > > > Cancer ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Perhaps there can be many reasons, but I use this simple

rule

> > > from

> > > > Devakaralam.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best Wishes

> > > > > Karu

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > > > > sohamsa

> > > > > Thursday, November 02, 2006 8:51 PM

> > > > > Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-

> Respected

> > > > Sir Dakshinamoorthy ji

> > > > >

> > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste Ramdas Raoji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for your learned explanation and bracing words. As

you

> > > > said,

> > > > > Mother's grace can indeed ward off all evils, as do

blessings

> > > > from

> > > > > good people like you.

> > > > >

> > > > > I do agree that a strong Jupiter in lagna gives me a lot of

> > > > immunity.

> > > > > I was also wondering if Saturn's association with the 8th

> > > > house/lord

> > > > > in the natal chart has something to do with this, because

> > > Partha

> > > > had

> > > > > also not experienced any malefic results of ashtama shani

and

> > > he

> > > > has

> > > > > Saturn in 8th house (cancer) in his natal chart. Ofcourse

he

> > > also

> > > > had

> > > > > Rahu dasa running and Rahu aspects 9th house, as does his

> > > > dispositor,

> > > > > Venus.

> > > > >

> > > > > This is just a thought...

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao@>

> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

> > > > > > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

> > > > > > Dear Lakshmi Ji,

> > > > > > In your chart, Lagna lord Guru is in Lagna which is his

> Moola

> > > > > Trikona Sthana and has got highest Shadbala strength.This

> > > > indicates

> > > > > God's Blessings are with you ,so no planetary afflictions

> > > during

> > > > > their transit will affect your life !!Eventhough Guru is in

> the

> > > > > beginning of the Rashi, he is in Devalokamsha.Also he has

> > > highest

> > > > > Vimshopaka Bala.So either Sadesathi or Kantaka Shani or

> Ashtama

> > > > Shani

> > > > > will not affect you.Just see, you are born on Thursday,

your

> > > > Janma

> > > > > Nakshatra is Poorvashada ruled by Shukra who in Navamsha is

> > > > placed in

> > > > > Kumbhamsha which is near to Ucchamsha.So this indicates

> Mother

> > > > Lalita

> > > > > Tripura Sundari's Blessings are with you.So how the other

> > > Grahas

> > > > in

> > > > > their adverse positions will harm you ??

> > > > > > I think you got the reply now.

> > > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

> > > > > > Ramadas Rao.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh@>

> > > > > > sohamsa

> > > > > > Tuesday, 31 October, 2006 10:03:34 AM

> > > > > > Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-

> > > Respected

> > > > Sir

> > > > > Dakshinamoorthy ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaste friends,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have one query regarding ashtama shani. Saturn has been

> > > > > transiting

> > > > > > my 8th house (both from lagna and from moon) for the past

> two

> > > > and

> > > > > odd

> > > > > > years, yet i have not faced any difficulty

> > > > > whatsoever.. .healthwise,

> > > > > > wealthwise or happinesswise! ! Except for a mild bout of

> > > > jaundice

> > > > > for

> > > > > > my younger son, I have not experienced any difficulty, by

> > > god's

> > > > > > grace. On the contrary, infact, this period has been one

of

> > > the

> > > > > > healthiest/happiest /most prosperous periods in my life,

> > > > despite

> > > > > the

> > > > > > fact that i quit my job in may 2004!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have observed from some of my friends' charts that

> ashtama

> > > > shani

> > > > > > has indeed been tough for them, so I am really puzzled

and

> > > > curious

> > > > > > (also very thankful)as to how god has spared me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I request my friends to help me unravel this puzzle. This

> > > would

> > > > > also

> > > > > > help me to understand what factors can counteract ashtama

> > > > shani,

> > > > > > though I agree that analysis of one's own chart may not

be

> > > the

> > > > best

> > > > > > way to do that!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My birth data is

> > > > > >

> > > > > > September 1, 1960

> > > > > > Time: 3:24:22 pm

> > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > > > Place: Hyderabad, AP (78 E 30', 17 N 20')

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If some one else has similar experience of a beneficial

> > > ashtama

> > > > > shani

> > > > > > period(!!), i request them to share their birth data, so

> that

> > > > it

> > > > > > would help me in bettering my understanding.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Kaartik Gor

> <astro_gor@ ..>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Om Sai Ram

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected Sir,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You are right in 8'th lord in 10'th ...In my Dasamsa

D10

> my

> > > > 8'th

> > > > > > lord (Saturn) is in 10'th (deblitated in Mesh).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Jyotish gives me lot of satisfaction. ...any particular

> > > > reason ??

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ALso I am undergoing Saturn Mahadasha and my Mercury

> > > > antardasa is

> > > > > > next which is also in 10'th house of D10....what are the

> > > > effects of

> > > > > > it being with a weak saturn ??

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I think a weak saturn actually is good ?? am I right ??

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Any remedies for a better career...when will I get my

> > > > promotion.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Birth Data

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 04/05/1976

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 05:38:00 am

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ahmedabad, Gujarat

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > India

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lagna is Aries and Moon Sign is Gemini.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanking you in advance.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Kaartik Gor

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Member:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As I have repeatedly said in my earlier posts, 8th lord

> in

> > > > the

> > > > > 10th

> > > > > > > house is definitely not a good indicator for

professional

> > > > > > > satisfaction. In ashtakavarga chart (SAV), the no. of

> > > bindus

> > > > in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > 12th house is significantly more than the no. of bindus

> in

> > > > either

> > > > > > > 10th house (service), 11th house (business) or even

> > > > lagna....so,

> > > > > on

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > mundane level, your professional aspects look quite

> tough!

> > > > > However,

> > > > > > > in your case, the 6th lord Mars is also in the 10th.

The

> > > > > > combination

> > > > > > > of 6th and 8th house lords may give mild vipareetha

raaja

> > > > yoga

> > > > > (by

> > > > > > > traditional definitions, this is not vipareeta raja

yoga;

> > > by

> > > > > > > tradition, the bad house lord should be in another bad

> > > > > house...but

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > practice, the combination of two bad lords does produce

> > > some

> > > > > > > vipareeta raaja yoga effects in many real cases. Astro

> > > > > researchers

> > > > > > > of this forum may check whether this " hypothesis "

> works!).

> > > > Mars

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > your case, is also the lagna lord and it is in the

house

> of

> > > > its

> > > > > > yoga

> > > > > > > kaaraka Moreover, your 10th lord is in the 11th house

> which

> > > > > > > indicates gains from one's profession. So, in my

opinion,

> > > you

> > > > may

> > > > > > be

> > > > > > > able to get a sudden life in your profession especially

> > > after

> > > > > your

> > > > > > > 41st year. Kindly try to consolidate yourself in any

> > > position

> > > > not

> > > > > > > only now, but even in the future. Take only considered

> > > steps

> > > > in

> > > > > > > profession.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regarding spirituality, you will gain a lot by worship

of

> > > > Lord

> > > > > > > Krishna signigying Moon....this will give you rare

> > > spiritual

> > > > > > > awakenings. Reading of Bhagavat Gita and Naaraayaneeyam

> > > will

> > > > be

> > > > > > > auspicious to you. (Moon conjunct Rahu and

Jupiter...Moon

> > > is

> > > > the

> > > > > > 9th

> > > > > > > house lord; Jupiter is the 5th house lord). Similarly,

> > > > worship of

> > > > > > > Lord Lakshmi Narasimha or Goddess Pratiyangira will

help

> > > you

> > > > to

> > > > > > > awaken your kundalini shakti. (do either one...kindly

do

> > > not

> > > > do

> > > > > > both

> > > > > > > at the same time if you are doing serious sadhanaas...

I

> > > have

> > > > a

> > > > > > strong

> > > > > > > reason to say this though I would not like to divulge

it

> to

> > > > you

> > > > > > now).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Your spiritual life seems very promising. For success

in

> > > > > > > professional aspects, satisfy Sun by chanting 'Shri

Raama

> > > > > > > Pattaabhisheka sargam " with devotion regularly.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regarding ashtama sani, you will be out of its grasp

from

> > > > > November

> > > > > > > 2006. so, nothing to worry about the future due to

> ashtama

> > > > sani.

> > > > > > The

> > > > > > > worst is probably over for you!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In vedic astrology, " mgoel1973 "

> > > > <mgoel1973@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Respected Sir,

> > > > > > > > My DOB is 16/9/72 and time is 12:22 pm.place of birth

> > > > roorkee.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sir,

> > > > > > > > Am I going under the period of ashtama shani.How this

> > > will

> > > > > affect

> > > > > > > me.I

> > > > > > > > am not doing well in the job area.What remedies

should

> I

> > > do

> > > > for

> > > > > > > better

> > > > > > > > job prospects and all round satisfaction, Sir,I am

also

> > > > > spritually

> > > > > > > > inclined.What has the fate in store for me ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > >

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November 9, 2006

||Jay Gurudev||

Lakshmi bahen, I forgot to add that my Saturn is obviously in

Pushkar Navamansha. actaully a " Visha Yoag " in 12th having both the

opposite palnets within one degree, Vargottama & in Pushkar

Navamansha. probably Vishyoga got strength of vargottam &

pushkaramsa. Amruta is spoied by Visha. terrible!! i don't want to

think more...

My 8th lord saturn is in Pushkaramasha. during transit of Saturn

from 8th of my Natal moon & saturn, I came under a terrible threat.

Doctor told my parents that if we would have been delayed by one

day, they would have had no option then to cut my left Lag from the

region of Knee. BUT & it's a big BUT that it was not needed & i was

saved by lord Shiva who sits in my 12th consuming all the wish by

himself.

warm regards,

Utpal Pathak

sohamsa , " b_lakshmi_ramesh "

<b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

>

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste Ramdas Raoji,

>

> Raghu Nemani's moon is also in pushkaramsa...and he did have a

> successful period, though not without some bad & sad

events...which

> are perhaps attributable to Saturn's transit over natal Rahu?

>

> Regards,

> Lakshmi

>

> sohamsa , " b_lakshmi_ramesh "

> <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Namaste Ramdas Raoji,

> >

> > Yes, Partha's moon, his 8th lord, is also in pushkara navamsa as

> well

> > as in pushkara bhaga. This information is given by Partha

himself.

> >

> > So, your point about 8th lord's strength turning ashtama shani

into

> a

> > beneficial experience is already proved in 3 cases. Perhaps

other

> > friends would share their experiences & feelings. The following

is

> > the table given by Partha about pushkara navamsa.

> >

> > Mesha sign

> > Thul navamsa(7th)

> > Dhanu navamsa(9th)

> >

> > Vrishabha sign

> > Vrishabh navamsa(5rd)

> > Meen navamsa(3rd)

> >

> > Mithun sign

> > Vrishabh navamsa(8th )

> > Meen navamsa(6th)

> >

> > Karka sign

> > Kanya navamsa(3rd)

> > Karka navamsa(1st)

> >

> > Simha sign

> > Thul navamsa(7th)

> > Dhanu navamsa(9th)

> >

> > Kanya sign

> > Vrishabh navamsa(5th)

> > Meen navamsa(3rd)

> >

> > Thul sign

> > Vrishabh navamsa(8th)

> > Meen navamsa(6th)

> >

> > Vrischik sign

> > Kanya navamsa(3rd)

> > Karka navamsa(1st)

> >

> > Dhanu sign

> > Thul navamsa(7th)

> > Dhanu navamsa(9th)

> >

> > Makar sign

> > Vrishabh navamsa(5th)

> > Meen navamsa(3rd)

> >

> > Kumbh sign

> > Vrishabh navamsa(8th)

> > Meen navamsa(6th)

> >

> > Meen sign

> > Kanya navamsa(3rd)

> > Karka navamsa(1st)

> >

> > Regards,

> > Lakshmi

> >

> > sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao@> wrote:

> > >

> > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

> > > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

> > > Dear Lakshmi Ji,

> > > Thanks for your views.Please check Partha's chart and I hope

> you

> > will get the answer.

> > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

> > > Ramadas Rao.

> > >

> > > b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > >

> > > Namaste Ramadas Raoji,

> > >

> > > Thanks for sharing your ashtama shani experiences with us.

Your

> > > Saturn is not only lagna/2nd lord and shubhapati, but is also

> > posited

> > > in the 9th house...indicating your great spirituality and

dharmic

> > > nature. For such a person, it's no wonder that ashtama shani

> turned

> > > out to be beneficial. So, my conjecture about ashtama shani

(in

> > > tandem with Tr Jupiter)triggering karmic life-events is not

> > incorrect.

> > >

> > > Another point you've made about the lord of ashtama bhava

being

> in

> > > Pushkaramsa and that having made the ashtama shani is also

very

> > > interesting and thought provoking. incidentally, my 8th lord,

> moon

> > is

> > > also in pushkaramsa. Is Partha's moon also in pushkaramsa?

I'll

> > have

> > > to check!!

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lakshmi

> > >

> > > sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

> > > > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

> > > > Dear Lakshmi Ji and other members of this list,

> > > > It is very interesting to read everybody's experiences

during

> the

> > > difficult transits of Shani.

> > > > Now let me give some inputs of Shani's transit over 8th

house

> > > from Lagna and Chandra in my life for the 1st time.Shani

entered

> > > Simha Rashi on 7/9/1977 and entered Kanya Rashi on

> 27/7/1980.During

> > > the beginning of Shani's transit I was working in a Central -

> State

> > > government company and my salary was just revised just befor

> Shani

> > > entered Simha Rashi.In 1978,between April to May, there was a

> > strike

> > > in our company,so there was no salary for one month but by May

> end,

> > > the strike ended with success and we got the salary for the

> strike

> > > period and also got promoted to a higher category from July

> > > 1978.During the same period, my engagement was fixed and I got

> > > married on 17th of Nov.1978.We both of us went to different

> places

> > > during Jan.1979 including Tirupaty and Mantralaya Shri

> Raghavendra

> > > Swami Ji Brindavan.On Oct.1979, I was blessed with a male

child

> > > also.Shani left Simha rashi on 27/7/1980.So during this whole

> > trasnit

> > > of Shani on 8th house from Lagna and Chandra was a Blessed one

> > > > for me.During the above said period,Guru in transit was in

> > Mithuna

> > > ( 6th house ), 7th house in 1978 and then in 1979 -1980 in

Simha

> > > Rashi in 8th house.So this clearly indicates Shani's transit

in

> 8th

> > > house from Lagna and Chandra Rashi has given beneficial

> results.For

> > > Makara Lagna, Shani is Lagna and 2nd house lord and is a

benefic

> > for

> > > this Lagna.Another important thing I learnt from this transit

is

> > > eventhough the transit of Shani over 8th house is bad ,if his

> sign

> > > lord ie., Surya is placed in Meena Rashi in 3rd from both

Lagna

> and

> > > Chandra and is in Pushkaramsha.This Surya's Pushkaramsha has

> lifted

> > > me and blessed with auspicious results during the Shani's

transit

> > > over Simha Rashi.During the above transit, Guru-Shani, Guru-

Budha

> > and

> > > Guru-Ketu was running using 360 Savana days per year.Now Shani

> > again

> > > came to Simha rashi which is 8th from Lagna and Chandra.I pray

> God

> > > that this transit also proves beneficial to me in all the ways.

> > > > I am sharing this experience to all the members of the list

for

> > > further discussion.

> > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

> > > > Ramadas Rao.

> > > >

> > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:

> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > >

> > > > Dear Karu,

> > > >

> > > > Namaste.

> > > >

> > > > It was very interesting to read about your experiences

during

> > > Saturn

> > > > transit. I also agree that Saturn is one planet who teaches

us

> > hard

> > > > lessons and he's always kind to those who are willing to

learn.

> > > >

> > > > Regarding Partha, he's like a child...walking out in a huff

> when

> > > he's

> > > > hurt or angry, like we all are at some or other juncture in

> life.

> > > But

> > > > I must say that his affection for SJC and Guruji never

wavered,

> > and

> > > I

> > > > very much consider him as one of us.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for bringing it to my notice because curiously enough

> this

> > > > ashtama shani seems to have favourably impacted on the chara

> > karaka

> > > > (twa)s of the planets in trines & aspected by Tr Saturn in

> > > > navamsa...he's gained a lovely wife and a better job (moon

as

> > DK),

> > > > he's soon going to be a proud father (Mercury-PK), he's

found

> > > > nurturing/protection from an equally lovely mother-like

person

> > > > (Saturn as MK) and perhaps he's coming into his own or

evolving

> > as

> > > a

> > > > person too(Sun as AK).

> > > >

> > > > It could also have happened because Tr Jupiter was

> simultaneously

> > > > aspecting his natal 3rd, 5th, 6th, 7th and 9th houses by

> > rasi/graha

> > > > drishtis.

> > > >

> > > > Manifestation of dharmic & karmic connections?

> > > >

> > > > I do not know if he's found a Guru too.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Lakshmi

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa , " Karu " <heen@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hare Rama Krshna

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Lakshmi,

> > > > >

> > > > > I finished a real bad time when Saturn transit in Gemini,

in

> my

> > > > Lagna. I have Rahu, Moon, Guru, Venus in trine to Gemini in

> > navamsa

> > > > and I suffered a lot. Gemini is A5 and I forget all Manthra

and

> > > > cleared the path for Yama Raj. When the Saturn in exact

degrees

> > of

> > > > Lagna, I lost all control over Dhi.

> > > > >

> > > > > But, due to blessings of Guru, I consider this was one of

the

> > > best

> > > > time in my life. It removed fear of death, and gave me many

in

> > > > retun. If I not face such terible time, I still consider God

as

> > > > enemies, and still my heart beat is depending on out siders.

> > > > >

> > > > > So Lakshmi, Why we are waiting for only adverse effects

when

> > > Saturn

> > > > transit over 8th or any bad places ? For spiritual progress,

> this

> > > is

> > > > a disguise blessing.

> > > > >

> > > > > Partha has Sun and Moon in trine. Can you remember Partha

> > > > dissapointed and left us ? How do you explain this ? Is this

> has

> > > some

> > > > thing to do with Mana and self ? Again this is only a one

angle

> > of

> > > > looking. We may learn in more in future. Yes, Murthi also

has

> lot

> > > to

> > > > do.

> > > > > Please pass my regards to Sasank and Ramesh. My best

wishes

> and

> > > > congradulation for his win.

> > > > >

> > > > > Here is the chart of X PM.

> > > > >

> > > > > Dudley Senanayake

> > > > > June 19, 1911

> > > > > Time: 12:15:51 pm

> > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > > Place: 79 E 51' 00 " , 6 N 56' 00 "

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > Karu

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > > > > sohamsa

> > > > > Tuesday, November 07, 2006 1:06 AM

> > > > > Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-

> Respected

> > > > Sir Dakshinamoorthy ji

> > > > >

> > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Karu,

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste. No, I can't see the attachment, because

groups

> > do

> > > > not

> > > > > store attachments. Could you please give the birth data,

so

> > that

> > > > I

> > > > > can generate the chart and appreciate your input better?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for the input from Devakeralam. I appreciate the

point

> > > > you've

> > > > > made. In navamsa, I do not have any planets in trines or

in

> 7th

> > > > to Tr

> > > > > Saturn in cancer. Only Navamsa ascendant is in trines to

Tr

> > > > saturn,

> > > > > so does that make any difference?

> > > > >

> > > > > But in Partha's case, there are planets in trines & 7th

from

> Tr

> > > > > Saturn, but he said that he did not feel the adverse impct

of

> > > > ashtama

> > > > > shani.

> > > > >

> > > > > I think one needs to analyse the transit effect from all

the

> > > > > perspectives of murthi, operating dasa, natal & navamsa

> > > > placements

> > > > > and perhaps consider what result is predominantly thrown

up

> by

> > > > these

> > > > > examinations.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sasank (my younger son) sends his loving regards to his

> > favourite

> > > > > Karu uncle, and he's so happy that Australia won the

> Champions

> > > > > trophy.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa , " Karu " <heen@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Lakshmi,

> > > > > > Please see the attached chart.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In 1952, When Saturn is in Lagna, as well as 8th from

the

> > Moon,

> > > > he

> > > > > was passing Mercury Mahadasa and Saturn Antar dasa. He

became

> > the

> > > > > prime minister of Sri Lanka. His father was the first

prime

> > > > minister

> > > > > of Sri Lanka.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Strong Mercury gave him the Rajayoga, but has Papa (or

> > kroora)

> > > > > Argala from 12th lord Sun (Father). In the natal chart,

> Saturn

> > > > and

> > > > > Rahu obstruct argala of Sun, and promised to activate the

> Raja

> > > > yoga

> > > > > when the time comes. As soon as Saturn antar dasa came,

his

> > > > father

> > > > > died and he became the PM.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > See the Navamsa. Jupiter is in Capricorn, trine to

Virgo.

> So

> > Tr

> > > > > Saturn damage father's life as Jupiter is the lord of the

8th

> > > > from

> > > > > 9th house of Rasi. This proves, all negative effects come

> from

> > > > the

> > > > > bhavas related to planets in trine or 7th from the Sign of

Tr

> > > > Saturn

> > > > > in Navamsa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Did you find in your Navamsa chart any planets in Trine

or

> > 7th

> > > > to

> > > > > Cancer ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Perhaps there can be many reasons, but I use this simple

> rule

> > > > from

> > > > > Devakaralam.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best Wishes

> > > > > > Karu

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > > > > > sohamsa

> > > > > > Thursday, November 02, 2006 8:51 PM

> > > > > > Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-

> > Respected

> > > > > Sir Dakshinamoorthy ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaste Ramdas Raoji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for your learned explanation and bracing words.

As

> you

> > > > > said,

> > > > > > Mother's grace can indeed ward off all evils, as do

> blessings

> > > > > from

> > > > > > good people like you.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I do agree that a strong Jupiter in lagna gives me a lot

of

> > > > > immunity.

> > > > > > I was also wondering if Saturn's association with the

8th

> > > > > house/lord

> > > > > > in the natal chart has something to do with this,

because

> > > > Partha

> > > > > had

> > > > > > also not experienced any malefic results of ashtama

shani

> and

> > > > he

> > > > > has

> > > > > > Saturn in 8th house (cancer) in his natal chart.

Ofcourse

> he

> > > > also

> > > > > had

> > > > > > Rahu dasa running and Rahu aspects 9th house, as does

his

> > > > > dispositor,

> > > > > > Venus.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This is just a thought...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa , Ramadas Rao

<ramadasrao@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

> > > > > > > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

> > > > > > > Dear Lakshmi Ji,

> > > > > > > In your chart, Lagna lord Guru is in Lagna which is

his

> > Moola

> > > > > > Trikona Sthana and has got highest Shadbala

strength.This

> > > > > indicates

> > > > > > God's Blessings are with you ,so no planetary

afflictions

> > > > during

> > > > > > their transit will affect your life !!Eventhough Guru is

in

> > the

> > > > > > beginning of the Rashi, he is in Devalokamsha.Also he

has

> > > > highest

> > > > > > Vimshopaka Bala.So either Sadesathi or Kantaka Shani or

> > Ashtama

> > > > > Shani

> > > > > > will not affect you.Just see, you are born on Thursday,

> your

> > > > > Janma

> > > > > > Nakshatra is Poorvashada ruled by Shukra who in Navamsha

is

> > > > > placed in

> > > > > > Kumbhamsha which is near to Ucchamsha.So this indicates

> > Mother

> > > > > Lalita

> > > > > > Tripura Sundari's Blessings are with you.So how the

other

> > > > Grahas

> > > > > in

> > > > > > their adverse positions will harm you ??

> > > > > > > I think you got the reply now.

> > > > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

> > > > > > > Ramadas Rao.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh@>

> > > > > > > sohamsa

> > > > > > > Tuesday, 31 October, 2006 10:03:34 AM

> > > > > > > Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-

> > > > Respected

> > > > > Sir

> > > > > > Dakshinamoorthy ji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaste friends,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have one query regarding ashtama shani. Saturn has

been

> > > > > > transiting

> > > > > > > my 8th house (both from lagna and from moon) for the

past

> > two

> > > > > and

> > > > > > odd

> > > > > > > years, yet i have not faced any difficulty

> > > > > > whatsoever.. .healthwise,

> > > > > > > wealthwise or happinesswise! ! Except for a mild bout

of

> > > > > jaundice

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > my younger son, I have not experienced any difficulty,

by

> > > > god's

> > > > > > > grace. On the contrary, infact, this period has been

one

> of

> > > > the

> > > > > > > healthiest/happiest /most prosperous periods in my

life,

> > > > > despite

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > fact that i quit my job in may 2004!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have observed from some of my friends' charts that

> > ashtama

> > > > > shani

> > > > > > > has indeed been tough for them, so I am really puzzled

> and

> > > > > curious

> > > > > > > (also very thankful)as to how god has spared me.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I request my friends to help me unravel this puzzle.

This

> > > > would

> > > > > > also

> > > > > > > help me to understand what factors can counteract

ashtama

> > > > > shani,

> > > > > > > though I agree that analysis of one's own chart may

not

> be

> > > > the

> > > > > best

> > > > > > > way to do that!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My birth data is

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > September 1, 1960

> > > > > > > Time: 3:24:22 pm

> > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > > > > Place: Hyderabad, AP (78 E 30', 17 N 20')

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If some one else has similar experience of a

beneficial

> > > > ashtama

> > > > > > shani

> > > > > > > period(!!), i request them to share their birth data,

so

> > that

> > > > > it

> > > > > > > would help me in bettering my understanding.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Kaartik Gor

> > <astro_gor@ ..>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Om Sai Ram

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Respected Sir,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You are right in 8'th lord in 10'th ...In my Dasamsa

> D10

> > my

> > > > > 8'th

> > > > > > > lord (Saturn) is in 10'th (deblitated in Mesh).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Jyotish gives me lot of satisfaction. ...any

particular

> > > > > reason ??

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ALso I am undergoing Saturn Mahadasha and my Mercury

> > > > > antardasa is

> > > > > > > next which is also in 10'th house of D10....what are

the

> > > > > effects of

> > > > > > > it being with a weak saturn ??

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I think a weak saturn actually is good ?? am I

right ??

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Any remedies for a better career...when will I get

my

> > > > > promotion.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Birth Data

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 04/05/1976

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 05:38:00 am

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ahmedabad, Gujarat

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > India

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lagna is Aries and Moon Sign is Gemini.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanking you in advance.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Kaartik Gor

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Member:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > As I have repeatedly said in my earlier posts, 8th

lord

> > in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > 10th

> > > > > > > > house is definitely not a good indicator for

> professional

> > > > > > > > satisfaction. In ashtakavarga chart (SAV), the no.

of

> > > > bindus

> > > > > in

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > 12th house is significantly more than the no. of

bindus

> > in

> > > > > either

> > > > > > > > 10th house (service), 11th house (business) or even

> > > > > lagna....so,

> > > > > > on

> > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > mundane level, your professional aspects look quite

> > tough!

> > > > > > However,

> > > > > > > > in your case, the 6th lord Mars is also in the 10th.

> The

> > > > > > > combination

> > > > > > > > of 6th and 8th house lords may give mild vipareetha

> raaja

> > > > > yoga

> > > > > > (by

> > > > > > > > traditional definitions, this is not vipareeta raja

> yoga;

> > > > by

> > > > > > > > tradition, the bad house lord should be in another

bad

> > > > > > house...but

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > practice, the combination of two bad lords does

produce

> > > > some

> > > > > > > > vipareeta raaja yoga effects in many real cases.

Astro

> > > > > > researchers

> > > > > > > > of this forum may check whether this " hypothesis "

> > works!).

> > > > > Mars

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > your case, is also the lagna lord and it is in the

> house

> > of

> > > > > its

> > > > > > > yoga

> > > > > > > > kaaraka Moreover, your 10th lord is in the 11th

house

> > which

> > > > > > > > indicates gains from one's profession. So, in my

> opinion,

> > > > you

> > > > > may

> > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > able to get a sudden life in your profession

especially

> > > > after

> > > > > > your

> > > > > > > > 41st year. Kindly try to consolidate yourself in any

> > > > position

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > > only now, but even in the future. Take only

considered

> > > > steps

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > profession.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regarding spirituality, you will gain a lot by

worship

> of

> > > > > Lord

> > > > > > > > Krishna signigying Moon....this will give you rare

> > > > spiritual

> > > > > > > > awakenings. Reading of Bhagavat Gita and

Naaraayaneeyam

> > > > will

> > > > > be

> > > > > > > > auspicious to you. (Moon conjunct Rahu and

> Jupiter...Moon

> > > > is

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > 9th

> > > > > > > > house lord; Jupiter is the 5th house lord).

Similarly,

> > > > > worship of

> > > > > > > > Lord Lakshmi Narasimha or Goddess Pratiyangira will

> help

> > > > you

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > > awaken your kundalini shakti. (do either

one...kindly

> do

> > > > not

> > > > > do

> > > > > > > both

> > > > > > > > at the same time if you are doing serious

sadhanaas...

> I

> > > > have

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > strong

> > > > > > > > reason to say this though I would not like to

divulge

> it

> > to

> > > > > you

> > > > > > > now).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Your spiritual life seems very promising. For

success

> in

> > > > > > > > professional aspects, satisfy Sun by chanting 'Shri

> Raama

> > > > > > > > Pattaabhisheka sargam " with devotion regularly.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regarding ashtama sani, you will be out of its grasp

> from

> > > > > > November

> > > > > > > > 2006. so, nothing to worry about the future due to

> > ashtama

> > > > > sani.

> > > > > > > The

> > > > > > > > worst is probably over for you!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In vedic astrology, " mgoel1973 "

> > > > > <mgoel1973@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Respected Sir,

> > > > > > > > > My DOB is 16/9/72 and time is 12:22 pm.place of

birth

> > > > > roorkee.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sir,

> > > > > > > > > Am I going under the period of ashtama shani.How

this

> > > > will

> > > > > > affect

> > > > > > > > me.I

> > > > > > > > > am not doing well in the job area.What remedies

> should

> > I

> > > > do

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > > better

> > > > > > > > > job prospects and all round satisfaction, Sir,I am

> also

> > > > > > spritually

> > > > > > > > > inclined.What has the fate in store for me ?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > >

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November 9, 2006

Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

Dear Ramadasji and other learned members,

1. Ashtama shani from lagna was the

most difficult period for me, primarily impacting my career. I was also

running Saturn-Venus dasa during that time, both being functional malefics

for Leo lagna. Next transit was ashtama from Moon as Moon is in 2H. This

was difficult too. Things improved thereafter.

2. Previous ashtama shani from lagna

was in college days and that period was good. I was running Rahu-Venus

then. Rahu is in Pisces in my 8H.

Regards

July

31, 1949

Time: 9:04:00

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East

of GMT)

Place: 73

E 13' 00 " , 22 N 18' 00 "

Vadodara, India

Ramesh

vedic_pathak

Sent by: sohamsa

11/09/2006 04:39 AM

Please respond to

sohamsa

To

sohamsa

cc

Subject

Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-Respected

Sir Dakshinamoorthy ji

||Jay Gurudev||

Lakshmi bahen, I forgot to add that my Saturn is obviously in

Pushkar Navamansha. actaully a " Visha Yoag " in 12th having both

the

opposite palnets within one degree, Vargottama & in Pushkar

Navamansha. probably Vishyoga got strength of vargottam &

pushkaramsa. Amruta is spoied by Visha. terrible!! i don't want to

think more...

My 8th lord saturn is in Pushkaramasha. during transit of Saturn

from 8th of my Natal moon & saturn, I came under a terrible threat.

Doctor told my parents that if we would have been delayed by one

day, they would have had no option then to cut my left Lag from the

region of Knee. BUT & it's a big BUT that it was not needed & i

was

saved by lord Shiva who sits in my 12th consuming all the wish by

himself.

warm regards,

Utpal Pathak

sohamsa ,

" b_lakshmi_ramesh "

<b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

>

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste Ramdas Raoji,

>

> Raghu Nemani's moon is also in pushkaramsa...and he did have a

> successful period, though not without some bad & sad

events...which

> are perhaps attributable to Saturn's transit over natal Rahu?

>

> Regards,

> Lakshmi

>

> sohamsa ,

" b_lakshmi_ramesh "

> <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Namaste Ramdas Raoji,

> >

> > Yes, Partha's moon, his 8th lord, is also in pushkara navamsa

as

> well

> > as in pushkara bhaga. This information is given by Partha

himself.

> >

> > So, your point about 8th lord's strength turning ashtama shani

into

> a

> > beneficial experience is already proved in 3 cases. Perhaps

other

> > friends would share their experiences & feelings. The following

is

> > the table given by Partha about pushkara navamsa.

> >

> > Mesha sign

> > Thul navamsa(7th)

> > Dhanu navamsa(9th)

> >

> > Vrishabha sign

> > Vrishabh navamsa(5rd)

> > Meen navamsa(3rd)

> >

> > Mithun sign

> > Vrishabh navamsa(8th )

> > Meen navamsa(6th)

> >

> > Karka sign

> > Kanya navamsa(3rd)

> > Karka navamsa(1st)

> >

> > Simha sign

> > Thul navamsa(7th)

> > Dhanu navamsa(9th)

> >

> > Kanya sign

> > Vrishabh navamsa(5th)

> > Meen navamsa(3rd)

> >

> > Thul sign

> > Vrishabh navamsa(8th)

> > Meen navamsa(6th)

> >

> > Vrischik sign

> > Kanya navamsa(3rd)

> > Karka navamsa(1st)

> >

> > Dhanu sign

> > Thul navamsa(7th)

> > Dhanu navamsa(9th)

> >

> > Makar sign

> > Vrishabh navamsa(5th)

> > Meen navamsa(3rd)

> >

> > Kumbh sign

> > Vrishabh navamsa(8th)

> > Meen navamsa(6th)

> >

> > Meen sign

> > Kanya navamsa(3rd)

> > Karka navamsa(1st)

> >

> > Regards,

> > Lakshmi

> >

> > sohamsa ,

Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao@> wrote:

> > >

> > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

> > > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

> > > Dear Lakshmi Ji,

> > > Thanks for your views.Please check Partha's chart and I

hope

> you

> > will get the answer.

> > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

> > > Ramadas Rao.

> > >

> > > b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > >

> > > Namaste Ramadas Raoji,

> > >

> > > Thanks for sharing your ashtama shani experiences with us.

Your

> > > Saturn is not only lagna/2nd lord and shubhapati, but is

also

> > posited

> > > in the 9th house...indicating your great spirituality and

dharmic

> > > nature. For such a person, it's no wonder that ashtama shani

> turned

> > > out to be beneficial. So, my conjecture about ashtama shani

(in

> > > tandem with Tr Jupiter)triggering karmic life-events is

not

> > incorrect.

> > >

> > > Another point you've made about the lord of ashtama bhava

being

> in

> > > Pushkaramsa and that having made the ashtama shani is also

very

> > > interesting and thought provoking. incidentally, my 8th

lord,

> moon

> > is

> > > also in pushkaramsa. Is Partha's moon also in pushkaramsa?

I'll

> > have

> > > to check!!

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lakshmi

> > >

> > > sohamsa ,

Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

> > > > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

> > > > Dear Lakshmi Ji and other members of this list,

> > > > It is very interesting to read everybody's experiences

during

> the

> > > difficult transits of Shani.

> > > > Now let me give some inputs of Shani's transit over

8th

house

> > > from Lagna and Chandra in my life for the 1st time.Shani

entered

> > > Simha Rashi on 7/9/1977 and entered Kanya Rashi on

> 27/7/1980.During

> > > the beginning of Shani's transit I was working in a Central

-

> State

> > > government company and my salary was just revised just befor

> Shani

> > > entered Simha Rashi.In 1978,between April to May, there

was a

> > strike

> > > in our company,so there was no salary for one month but

by May

> end,

> > > the strike ended with success and we got the salary for

the

> strike

> > > period and also got promoted to a higher category from July

> > > 1978.During the same period, my engagement was fixed and

I got

> > > married on 17th of Nov.1978.We both of us went to different

> places

> > > during Jan.1979 including Tirupaty and Mantralaya Shri

> Raghavendra

> > > Swami Ji Brindavan.On Oct.1979, I was blessed with a male

child

> > > also.Shani left Simha rashi on 27/7/1980.So during this

whole

> > trasnit

> > > of Shani on 8th house from Lagna and Chandra was a Blessed

one

> > > > for me.During the above said period,Guru in transit

was in

> > Mithuna

> > > ( 6th house ), 7th house in 1978 and then in 1979 -1980

in

Simha

> > > Rashi in 8th house.So this clearly indicates Shani's transit

in

> 8th

> > > house from Lagna and Chandra Rashi has given beneficial

> results.For

> > > Makara Lagna, Shani is Lagna and 2nd house lord and is a

benefic

> > for

> > > this Lagna.Another important thing I learnt from this transit

is

> > > eventhough the transit of Shani over 8th house is bad ,if

his

> sign

> > > lord ie., Surya is placed in Meena Rashi in 3rd from both

Lagna

> and

> > > Chandra and is in Pushkaramsha.This Surya's Pushkaramsha

has

> lifted

> > > me and blessed with auspicious results during the Shani's

transit

> > > over Simha Rashi.During the above transit, Guru-Shani, Guru-

Budha

> > and

> > > Guru-Ketu was running using 360 Savana days per year.Now

Shani

> > again

> > > came to Simha rashi which is 8th from Lagna and Chandra.I

pray

> God

> > > that this transit also proves beneficial to me in all the

ways.

> > > > I am sharing this experience to all the members of

the list

for

> > > further discussion.

> > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

> > > > Ramadas Rao.

> > > >

> > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:

> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > >

> > > > Dear Karu,

> > > >

> > > > Namaste.

> > > >

> > > > It was very interesting to read about your experiences

during

> > > Saturn

> > > > transit. I also agree that Saturn is one planet who

teaches

us

> > hard

> > > > lessons and he's always kind to those who are willing

to

learn.

> > > >

> > > > Regarding Partha, he's like a child...walking out in

a huff

> when

> > > he's

> > > > hurt or angry, like we all are at some or other juncture

in

> life.

> > > But

> > > > I must say that his affection for SJC and Guruji never

wavered,

> > and

> > > I

> > > > very much consider him as one of us.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for bringing it to my notice because curiously

enough

> this

> > > > ashtama shani seems to have favourably impacted on

the chara

> > karaka

> > > > (twa)s of the planets in trines & aspected by Tr

Saturn in

> > > > navamsa...he's gained a lovely wife and a better job

(moon

as

> > DK),

> > > > he's soon going to be a proud father (Mercury-PK),

he's

found

> > > > nurturing/protection from an equally lovely mother-like

person

> > > > (Saturn as MK) and perhaps he's coming into his own

or

evolving

> > as

> > > a

> > > > person too(Sun as AK).

> > > >

> > > > It could also have happened because Tr Jupiter was

> simultaneously

> > > > aspecting his natal 3rd, 5th, 6th, 7th and 9th houses

by

> > rasi/graha

> > > > drishtis.

> > > >

> > > > Manifestation of dharmic & karmic connections?

> > > >

> > > > I do not know if he's found a Guru too.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Lakshmi

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa ,

" Karu " <heen@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hare Rama Krshna

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Lakshmi,

> > > > >

> > > > > I finished a real bad time when Saturn transit

in Gemini,

in

> my

> > > > Lagna. I have Rahu, Moon, Guru, Venus in trine to Gemini

in

> > navamsa

> > > > and I suffered a lot. Gemini is A5 and I forget all

Manthra

and

> > > > cleared the path for Yama Raj. When the Saturn in exact

degrees

> > of

> > > > Lagna, I lost all control over Dhi.

> > > > >

> > > > > But, due to blessings of Guru, I consider this

was one of

the

> > > best

> > > > time in my life. It removed fear of death, and gave

me many

in

> > > > retun. If I not face such terible time, I still consider

God

as

> > > > enemies, and still my heart beat is depending on out

siders.

> > > > >

> > > > > So Lakshmi, Why we are waiting for only adverse

effects

when

> > > Saturn

> > > > transit over 8th or any bad places ? For spiritual

progress,

> this

> > > is

> > > > a disguise blessing.

> > > > >

> > > > > Partha has Sun and Moon in trine. Can you remember

Partha

> > > > dissapointed and left us ? How do you explain this

? Is this

> has

> > > some

> > > > thing to do with Mana and self ? Again this is only

a one

angle

> > of

> > > > looking. We may learn in more in future. Yes, Murthi

also

has

> lot

> > > to

> > > > do.

> > > > > Please pass my regards to Sasank and Ramesh. My

best

wishes

> and

> > > > congradulation for his win.

> > > > >

> > > > > Here is the chart of X PM.

> > > > >

> > > > > Dudley Senanayake

> > > > > June 19, 1911

> > > > > Time: 12:15:51 pm

> > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > > Place: 79 E 51' 00 " , 6 N 56' 00 "

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > Karu

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > > > > sohamsa

> > > > > Tuesday, November 07, 2006 1:06 AM

> > > > > Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-

> Respected

> > > > Sir Dakshinamoorthy ji

> > > > >

> > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Karu,

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste. No, I can't see the attachment, because

groups

> > do

> > > > not

> > > > > store attachments. Could you please give the birth

data,

so

> > that

> > > > I

> > > > > can generate the chart and appreciate your input

better?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for the input from Devakeralam. I appreciate

the

point

> > > > you've

> > > > > made. In navamsa, I do not have any planets in

trines or

in

> 7th

> > > > to Tr

> > > > > Saturn in cancer. Only Navamsa ascendant is in

trines to

Tr

> > > > saturn,

> > > > > so does that make any difference?

> > > > >

> > > > > But in Partha's case, there are planets in trines

& 7th

from

> Tr

> > > > > Saturn, but he said that he did not feel the adverse

impct

of

> > > > ashtama

> > > > > shani.

> > > > >

> > > > > I think one needs to analyse the transit effect

from all

the

> > > > > perspectives of murthi, operating dasa, natal

& navamsa

> > > > placements

> > > > > and perhaps consider what result is predominantly

thrown

up

> by

> > > > these

> > > > > examinations.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sasank (my younger son) sends his loving regards

to his

> > favourite

> > > > > Karu uncle, and he's so happy that Australia won

the

> Champions

> > > > > trophy.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa ,

" Karu " <heen@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Lakshmi,

> > > > > > Please see the attached chart.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In 1952, When Saturn is in Lagna, as well

as 8th from

the

> > Moon,

> > > > he

> > > > > was passing Mercury Mahadasa and Saturn Antar

dasa. He

became

> > the

> > > > > prime minister of Sri Lanka. His father was the

first

prime

> > > > minister

> > > > > of Sri Lanka.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Strong Mercury gave him the Rajayoga, but

has Papa (or

> > kroora)

> > > > > Argala from 12th lord Sun (Father). In the natal

chart,

> Saturn

> > > > and

> > > > > Rahu obstruct argala of Sun, and promised to activate

the

> Raja

> > > > yoga

> > > > > when the time comes. As soon as Saturn antar dasa

came,

his

> > > > father

> > > > > died and he became the PM.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > See the Navamsa. Jupiter is in Capricorn,

trine to

Virgo.

> So

> > Tr

> > > > > Saturn damage father's life as Jupiter is the

lord of the

8th

> > > > from

> > > > > 9th house of Rasi. This proves, all negative effects

come

> from

> > > > the

> > > > > bhavas related to planets in trine or 7th from

the Sign of

Tr

> > > > Saturn

> > > > > in Navamsa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Did you find in your Navamsa chart any planets

in Trine

or

> > 7th

> > > > to

> > > > > Cancer ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Perhaps there can be many reasons, but I

use this simple

> rule

> > > > from

> > > > > Devakaralam.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best Wishes

> > > > > > Karu

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > > > > > sohamsa

> > > > > > Thursday, November 02, 2006 8:51 PM

> > > > > > Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-

> > Respected

> > > > > Sir Dakshinamoorthy ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaste Ramdas Raoji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for your learned explanation and bracing

words.

As

> you

> > > > > said,

> > > > > > Mother's grace can indeed ward off all evils,

as do

> blessings

> > > > > from

> > > > > > good people like you.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I do agree that a strong Jupiter in lagna

gives me a lot

of

> > > > > immunity.

> > > > > > I was also wondering if Saturn's association

with the

8th

> > > > > house/lord

> > > > > > in the natal chart has something to do with

this,

because

> > > > Partha

> > > > > had

> > > > > > also not experienced any malefic results

of ashtama

shani

> and

> > > > he

> > > > > has

> > > > > > Saturn in 8th house (cancer) in his natal

chart.

Ofcourse

> he

> > > > also

> > > > > had

> > > > > > Rahu dasa running and Rahu aspects 9th house,

as does

his

> > > > > dispositor,

> > > > > > Venus.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This is just a thought...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa ,

Ramadas Rao

<ramadasrao@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

> > > > > > > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

> > > > > > > Dear Lakshmi Ji,

> > > > > > > In your chart, Lagna lord Guru is in

Lagna which is

his

> > Moola

> > > > > > Trikona Sthana and has got highest Shadbala

strength.This

> > > > > indicates

> > > > > > God's Blessings are with you ,so no planetary

afflictions

> > > > during

> > > > > > their transit will affect your life !!Eventhough

Guru is

in

> > the

> > > > > > beginning of the Rashi, he is in Devalokamsha.Also

he

has

> > > > highest

> > > > > > Vimshopaka Bala.So either Sadesathi or Kantaka

Shani or

> > Ashtama

> > > > > Shani

> > > > > > will not affect you.Just see, you are born

on Thursday,

> your

> > > > > Janma

> > > > > > Nakshatra is Poorvashada ruled by Shukra

who in Navamsha

is

> > > > > placed in

> > > > > > Kumbhamsha which is near to Ucchamsha.So

this indicates

> > Mother

> > > > > Lalita

> > > > > > Tripura Sundari's Blessings are with you.So

how the

other

> > > > Grahas

> > > > > in

> > > > > > their adverse positions will harm you ??

> > > > > > > I think you got the reply now.

> > > > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

> > > > > > > Ramadas Rao.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh@>

> > > > > > > sohamsa

> > > > > > > Tuesday, 31 October, 2006 10:03:34

AM

> > > > > > > Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-

> > > > Respected

> > > > > Sir

> > > > > > Dakshinamoorthy ji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaste friends,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have one query regarding ashtama shani.

Saturn has

been

> > > > > > transiting

> > > > > > > my 8th house (both from lagna and from

moon) for the

past

> > two

> > > > > and

> > > > > > odd

> > > > > > > years, yet i have not faced any difficulty

> > > > > > whatsoever.. .healthwise,

> > > > > > > wealthwise or happinesswise! ! Except

for a mild bout

of

> > > > > jaundice

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > my younger son, I have not experienced

any difficulty,

by

> > > > god's

> > > > > > > grace. On the contrary, infact, this

period has been

one

> of

> > > > the

> > > > > > > healthiest/happiest /most prosperous

periods in my

life,

> > > > > despite

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > fact that i quit my job in may 2004!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have observed from some of my friends'

charts that

> > ashtama

> > > > > shani

> > > > > > > has indeed been tough for them, so I

am really puzzled

> and

> > > > > curious

> > > > > > > (also very thankful)as to how god has

spared me.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I request my friends to help me unravel

this puzzle.

This

> > > > would

> > > > > > also

> > > > > > > help me to understand what factors can

counteract

ashtama

> > > > > shani,

> > > > > > > though I agree that analysis of one's

own chart may

not

> be

> > > > the

> > > > > best

> > > > > > > way to do that!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My birth data is

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > September 1, 1960

> > > > > > > Time: 3:24:22 pm

> > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > > > > Place: Hyderabad, AP (78 E 30', 17 N

20')

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If some one else has similar experience

of a

beneficial

> > > > ashtama

> > > > > > shani

> > > > > > > period(!!), i request them to share

their birth data,

so

> > that

> > > > > it

> > > > > > > would help me in bettering my understanding.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Kaartik

Gor

> > <astro_gor@ ..>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Om Sai Ram

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Respected Sir,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You are right in 8'th lord in 10'th

....In my Dasamsa

> D10

> > my

> > > > > 8'th

> > > > > > > lord (Saturn) is in 10'th (deblitated

in Mesh).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Jyotish gives me lot of satisfaction.

....any

particular

> > > > > reason ??

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ALso I am undergoing Saturn Mahadasha

and my Mercury

> > > > > antardasa is

> > > > > > > next which is also in 10'th house of

D10....what are

the

> > > > > effects of

> > > > > > > it being with a weak saturn ??

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I think a weak saturn actually

is good ?? am I

right ??

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Any remedies for a better career...when

will I get

my

> > > > > promotion.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Birth Data

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 04/05/1976

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 05:38:00 am

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ahmedabad, Gujarat

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > India

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lagna is Aries and Moon Sign is

Gemini.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanking you in advance.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Kaartik Gor

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer@

....> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Member:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > As I have repeatedly said in my

earlier posts, 8th

lord

> > in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > 10th

> > > > > > > > house is definitely not a good

indicator for

> professional

> > > > > > > > satisfaction. In ashtakavarga chart

(SAV), the no.

of

> > > > bindus

> > > > > in

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > 12th house is significantly more

than the no. of

bindus

> > in

> > > > > either

> > > > > > > > 10th house (service), 11th house

(business) or even

> > > > > lagna....so,

> > > > > > on

> > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > mundane level, your professional

aspects look quite

> > tough!

> > > > > > However,

> > > > > > > > in your case, the 6th lord Mars

is also in the 10th.

> The

> > > > > > > combination

> > > > > > > > of 6th and 8th house lords may

give mild vipareetha

> raaja

> > > > > yoga

> > > > > > (by

> > > > > > > > traditional definitions, this is

not vipareeta raja

> yoga;

> > > > by

> > > > > > > > tradition, the bad house lord should

be in another

bad

> > > > > > house...but

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > practice, the combination of two

bad lords does

produce

> > > > some

> > > > > > > > vipareeta raaja yoga effects in

many real cases.

Astro

> > > > > > researchers

> > > > > > > > of this forum may check whether

this " hypothesis "

> > works!).

> > > > > Mars

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > your case, is also the lagna lord

and it is in the

> house

> > of

> > > > > its

> > > > > > > yoga

> > > > > > > > kaaraka Moreover, your 10th lord

is in the 11th

house

> > which

> > > > > > > > indicates gains from one's profession.

So, in my

> opinion,

> > > > you

> > > > > may

> > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > able to get a sudden life in your

profession

especially

> > > > after

> > > > > > your

> > > > > > > > 41st year. Kindly try to consolidate

yourself in any

> > > > position

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > > only now, but even in the future.

Take only

considered

> > > > steps

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > profession.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regarding spirituality, you will

gain a lot by

worship

> of

> > > > > Lord

> > > > > > > > Krishna signigying Moon....this

will give you rare

> > > > spiritual

> > > > > > > > awakenings. Reading of Bhagavat

Gita and

Naaraayaneeyam

> > > > will

> > > > > be

> > > > > > > > auspicious to you. (Moon conjunct

Rahu and

> Jupiter...Moon

> > > > is

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > 9th

> > > > > > > > house lord; Jupiter is the 5th

house lord).

Similarly,

> > > > > worship of

> > > > > > > > Lord Lakshmi Narasimha or Goddess

Pratiyangira will

> help

> > > > you

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > > awaken your kundalini shakti. (do

either

one...kindly

> do

> > > > not

> > > > > do

> > > > > > > both

> > > > > > > > at the same time if you are doing

serious

sadhanaas...

> I

> > > > have

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > strong

> > > > > > > > reason to say this though I would

not like to

divulge

> it

> > to

> > > > > you

> > > > > > > now).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Your spiritual life seems very

promising. For

success

> in

> > > > > > > > professional aspects, satisfy Sun

by chanting 'Shri

> Raama

> > > > > > > > Pattaabhisheka sargam " with

devotion regularly.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regarding ashtama sani, you will

be out of its grasp

> from

> > > > > > November

> > > > > > > > 2006. so, nothing to worry about

the future due to

> > ashtama

> > > > > sani.

> > > > > > > The

> > > > > > > > worst is probably over for you!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In vedic astrology@ .

com, " mgoel1973 "

> > > > > <mgoel1973@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Respected Sir,

> > > > > > > > > My DOB is 16/9/72 and time

is 12:22 pm.place of

birth

> > > > > roorkee.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sir,

> > > > > > > > > Am I going under the period

of ashtama shani.How

this

> > > > will

> > > > > > affect

> > > > > > > > me.I

> > > > > > > > > am not doing well in the job

area.What remedies

> should

> > I

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November 9, 2006

Dear Utpal ji, Lakshmi ji and Ramdas Rao ji,

Vwry interesting. My 8th lord Jupiter (simha lagna - guru in 12th house in rashi

as well) is also in Pushkaramsha (in karaka in D9 and most of D charts) and

incidently, sade sati did very good for me. Now I am going through ashtama

Shani..so I will be observing now as to how does it work in this transit. (March

8, 1967; 17.40 IST, Jodhpur-India 73E04 / 26N17).

Yes, shani's tranit over natal rahu (in 9th house) was painful / unfruitful

period.

regards / Prafulla Gang

Remember, if two men agree on everything? Only one is doing the thinking!

************************************************

>

> vedic_pathak

> Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:39:58 -0000

> sohamsa

> Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-Respected Sir

> Dakshinamoorthy ji

>

> ||Jay Gurudev||

>

> Lakshmi bahen, I forgot to add that my Saturn is obviously in

> Pushkar Navamansha. actaully a " Visha Yoag " in 12th having both the

> opposite palnets within one degree, Vargottama & in Pushkar

> Navamansha. probably Vishyoga got strength of vargottam &

> pushkaramsa. Amruta is spoied by Visha. terrible!! i don't want to

> think more...

>

> My 8th lord saturn is in Pushkaramasha. during transit of Saturn

> from 8th of my Natal moon & saturn, I came under a terrible threat.

> Doctor told my parents that if we would have been delayed by one

> day, they would have had no option then to cut my left Lag from the

> region of Knee. BUT & it's a big BUT that it was not needed & i was

> saved by lord Shiva who sits in my 12th consuming all the wish by

> himself.

>

> warm regards,

>

> Utpal Pathak

>

> sohamsa , " b_lakshmi_ramesh "

> <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

>>

>> Om Gurave Namah

>>

>> Namaste Ramdas Raoji,

>>

>> Raghu Nemani's moon is also in pushkaramsa...and he did have a

>> successful period, though not without some bad & sad

> events...which

>> are perhaps attributable to Saturn's transit over natal Rahu?

>>

>> Regards,

>> Lakshmi

>>

>> sohamsa , " b_lakshmi_ramesh "

>> <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:

>>>

>>> Om Gurave Namah

>>>

>>> Namaste Ramdas Raoji,

>>>

>>> Yes, Partha's moon, his 8th lord, is also in pushkara navamsa as

>> well

>>> as in pushkara bhaga. This information is given by Partha

> himself.

>>>

>>> So, your point about 8th lord's strength turning ashtama shani

> into

>> a

>>> beneficial experience is already proved in 3 cases. Perhaps

> other

>>> friends would share their experiences & feelings. The following

> is

>>> the table given by Partha about pushkara navamsa.

>>>

>>> Mesha sign

>>> Thul navamsa(7th)

>>> Dhanu navamsa(9th)

>>>

>>> Vrishabha sign

>>> Vrishabh navamsa(5rd)

>>> Meen navamsa(3rd)

>>>

>>> Mithun sign

>>> Vrishabh navamsa(8th )

>>> Meen navamsa(6th)

>>>

>>> Karka sign

>>> Kanya navamsa(3rd)

>>> Karka navamsa(1st)

>>>

>>> Simha sign

>>> Thul navamsa(7th)

>>> Dhanu navamsa(9th)

>>>

>>> Kanya sign

>>> Vrishabh navamsa(5th)

>>> Meen navamsa(3rd)

>>>

>>> Thul sign

>>> Vrishabh navamsa(8th)

>>> Meen navamsa(6th)

>>>

>>> Vrischik sign

>>> Kanya navamsa(3rd)

>>> Karka navamsa(1st)

>>>

>>> Dhanu sign

>>> Thul navamsa(7th)

>>> Dhanu navamsa(9th)

>>>

>>> Makar sign

>>> Vrishabh navamsa(5th)

>>> Meen navamsa(3rd)

>>>

>>> Kumbh sign

>>> Vrishabh navamsa(8th)

>>> Meen navamsa(6th)

>>>

>>> Meen sign

>>> Kanya navamsa(3rd)

>>> Karka navamsa(1st)

>>>

>>> Regards,

>>> Lakshmi

>>>

>>> sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao@> wrote:

>>>>

>>>> OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

>>>> OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

>>>> Dear Lakshmi Ji,

>>>> Thanks for your views.Please check Partha's chart and I hope

>> you

>>> will get the answer.

>>>> With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

>>>> Ramadas Rao.

>>>>

>>>> b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:

>>>> Om Gurave Namah

>>>>

>>>> Namaste Ramadas Raoji,

>>>>

>>>> Thanks for sharing your ashtama shani experiences with us.

> Your

>>>> Saturn is not only lagna/2nd lord and shubhapati, but is also

>>> posited

>>>> in the 9th house...indicating your great spirituality and

> dharmic

>>>> nature. For such a person, it's no wonder that ashtama shani

>> turned

>>>> out to be beneficial. So, my conjecture about ashtama shani

> (in

>>>> tandem with Tr Jupiter)triggering karmic life-events is not

>>> incorrect.

>>>>

>>>> Another point you've made about the lord of ashtama bhava

> being

>> in

>>>> Pushkaramsa and that having made the ashtama shani is also

> very

>>>> interesting and thought provoking. incidentally, my 8th lord,

>> moon

>>> is

>>>> also in pushkaramsa. Is Partha's moon also in pushkaramsa?

> I'll

>>> have

>>>> to check!!

>>>>

>>>> regards,

>>>> Lakshmi

>>>>

>>>> sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao@>

> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

>>>>> OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

>>>>> Dear Lakshmi Ji and other members of this list,

>>>>> It is very interesting to read everybody's experiences

> during

>> the

>>>> difficult transits of Shani.

>>>>> Now let me give some inputs of Shani's transit over 8th

> house

>>>> from Lagna and Chandra in my life for the 1st time.Shani

> entered

>>>> Simha Rashi on 7/9/1977 and entered Kanya Rashi on

>> 27/7/1980.During

>>>> the beginning of Shani's transit I was working in a Central -

>> State

>>>> government company and my salary was just revised just befor

>> Shani

>>>> entered Simha Rashi.In 1978,between April to May, there was a

>>> strike

>>>> in our company,so there was no salary for one month but by May

>> end,

>>>> the strike ended with success and we got the salary for the

>> strike

>>>> period and also got promoted to a higher category from July

>>>> 1978.During the same period, my engagement was fixed and I got

>>>> married on 17th of Nov.1978.We both of us went to different

>> places

>>>> during Jan.1979 including Tirupaty and Mantralaya Shri

>> Raghavendra

>>>> Swami Ji Brindavan.On Oct.1979, I was blessed with a male

> child

>>>> also.Shani left Simha rashi on 27/7/1980.So during this whole

>>> trasnit

>>>> of Shani on 8th house from Lagna and Chandra was a Blessed one

>>>>> for me.During the above said period,Guru in transit was in

>>> Mithuna

>>>> ( 6th house ), 7th house in 1978 and then in 1979 -1980 in

> Simha

>>>> Rashi in 8th house.So this clearly indicates Shani's transit

> in

>> 8th

>>>> house from Lagna and Chandra Rashi has given beneficial

>> results.For

>>>> Makara Lagna, Shani is Lagna and 2nd house lord and is a

> benefic

>>> for

>>>> this Lagna.Another important thing I learnt from this transit

> is

>>>> eventhough the transit of Shani over 8th house is bad ,if his

>> sign

>>>> lord ie., Surya is placed in Meena Rashi in 3rd from both

> Lagna

>> and

>>>> Chandra and is in Pushkaramsha.This Surya's Pushkaramsha has

>> lifted

>>>> me and blessed with auspicious results during the Shani's

> transit

>>>> over Simha Rashi.During the above transit, Guru-Shani, Guru-

> Budha

>>> and

>>>> Guru-Ketu was running using 360 Savana days per year.Now Shani

>>> again

>>>> came to Simha rashi which is 8th from Lagna and Chandra.I pray

>> God

>>>> that this transit also proves beneficial to me in all the ways.

>>>>> I am sharing this experience to all the members of the list

> for

>>>> further discussion.

>>>>> With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

>>>>> Ramadas Rao.

>>>>>

>>>>> b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:

>>>>> Om Gurave Namah

>>>>>

>>>>> Dear Karu,

>>>>>

>>>>> Namaste.

>>>>>

>>>>> It was very interesting to read about your experiences

> during

>>>> Saturn

>>>>> transit. I also agree that Saturn is one planet who teaches

> us

>>> hard

>>>>> lessons and he's always kind to those who are willing to

> learn.

>>>>>

>>>>> Regarding Partha, he's like a child...walking out in a huff

>> when

>>>> he's

>>>>> hurt or angry, like we all are at some or other juncture in

>> life.

>>>> But

>>>>> I must say that his affection for SJC and Guruji never

> wavered,

>>> and

>>>> I

>>>>> very much consider him as one of us.

>>>>>

>>>>> Thanks for bringing it to my notice because curiously enough

>> this

>>>>> ashtama shani seems to have favourably impacted on the chara

>>> karaka

>>>>> (twa)s of the planets in trines & aspected by Tr Saturn in

>>>>> navamsa...he's gained a lovely wife and a better job (moon

> as

>>> DK),

>>>>> he's soon going to be a proud father (Mercury-PK), he's

> found

>>>>> nurturing/protection from an equally lovely mother-like

> person

>>>>> (Saturn as MK) and perhaps he's coming into his own or

> evolving

>>> as

>>>> a

>>>>> person too(Sun as AK).

>>>>>

>>>>> It could also have happened because Tr Jupiter was

>> simultaneously

>>>>> aspecting his natal 3rd, 5th, 6th, 7th and 9th houses by

>>> rasi/graha

>>>>> drishtis.

>>>>>

>>>>> Manifestation of dharmic & karmic connections?

>>>>>

>>>>> I do not know if he's found a Guru too.

>>>>>

>>>>> Regards,

>>>>> Lakshmi

>>>>>

>>>>> sohamsa , " Karu " <heen@> wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Hare Rama Krshna

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Dear Lakshmi,

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I finished a real bad time when Saturn transit in Gemini,

> in

>> my

>>>>> Lagna. I have Rahu, Moon, Guru, Venus in trine to Gemini in

>>> navamsa

>>>>> and I suffered a lot. Gemini is A5 and I forget all Manthra

> and

>>>>> cleared the path for Yama Raj. When the Saturn in exact

> degrees

>>> of

>>>>> Lagna, I lost all control over Dhi.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> But, due to blessings of Guru, I consider this was one of

> the

>>>> best

>>>>> time in my life. It removed fear of death, and gave me many

> in

>>>>> retun. If I not face such terible time, I still consider God

> as

>>>>> enemies, and still my heart beat is depending on out siders.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> So Lakshmi, Why we are waiting for only adverse effects

> when

>>>> Saturn

>>>>> transit over 8th or any bad places ? For spiritual progress,

>> this

>>>> is

>>>>> a disguise blessing.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Partha has Sun and Moon in trine. Can you remember Partha

>>>>> dissapointed and left us ? How do you explain this ? Is this

>> has

>>>> some

>>>>> thing to do with Mana and self ? Again this is only a one

> angle

>>> of

>>>>> looking. We may learn in more in future. Yes, Murthi also

> has

>> lot

>>>> to

>>>>> do.

>>>>>> Please pass my regards to Sasank and Ramesh. My best

> wishes

>> and

>>>>> congradulation for his win.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Here is the chart of X PM.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Dudley Senanayake

>>>>>> June 19, 1911

>>>>>> Time: 12:15:51 pm

>>>>>> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

>>>>>> Place: 79 E 51' 00 " , 6 N 56' 00 "

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Thanks

>>>>>> Karu

>>>>>>

>>>>>> -

>>>>>> b_lakshmi_ramesh

>>>>>> sohamsa

>>>>>> Tuesday, November 07, 2006 1:06 AM

>>>>>> Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-

>> Respected

>>>>> Sir Dakshinamoorthy ji

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Om Gurave Namah

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Dear Karu,

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Namaste. No, I can't see the attachment, because

> groups

>>> do

>>>>> not

>>>>>> store attachments. Could you please give the birth data,

> so

>>> that

>>>>> I

>>>>>> can generate the chart and appreciate your input better?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Thanks for the input from Devakeralam. I appreciate the

> point

>>>>> you've

>>>>>> made. In navamsa, I do not have any planets in trines or

> in

>> 7th

>>>>> to Tr

>>>>>> Saturn in cancer. Only Navamsa ascendant is in trines to

> Tr

>>>>> saturn,

>>>>>> so does that make any difference?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> But in Partha's case, there are planets in trines & 7th

> from

>> Tr

>>>>>> Saturn, but he said that he did not feel the adverse impct

> of

>>>>> ashtama

>>>>>> shani.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I think one needs to analyse the transit effect from all

> the

>>>>>> perspectives of murthi, operating dasa, natal & navamsa

>>>>> placements

>>>>>> and perhaps consider what result is predominantly thrown

> up

>> by

>>>>> these

>>>>>> examinations.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Sasank (my younger son) sends his loving regards to his

>>> favourite

>>>>>> Karu uncle, and he's so happy that Australia won the

>> Champions

>>>>>> trophy.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Regards,

>>>>>> Lakshmi

>>>>>>

>>>>>> sohamsa , " Karu " <heen@> wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> HARE RAMA KRISHNA

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Dear Lakshmi,

>>>>>>> Please see the attached chart.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> In 1952, When Saturn is in Lagna, as well as 8th from

> the

>>> Moon,

>>>>> he

>>>>>> was passing Mercury Mahadasa and Saturn Antar dasa. He

> became

>>> the

>>>>>> prime minister of Sri Lanka. His father was the first

> prime

>>>>> minister

>>>>>> of Sri Lanka.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Strong Mercury gave him the Rajayoga, but has Papa (or

>>> kroora)

>>>>>> Argala from 12th lord Sun (Father). In the natal chart,

>> Saturn

>>>>> and

>>>>>> Rahu obstruct argala of Sun, and promised to activate the

>> Raja

>>>>> yoga

>>>>>> when the time comes. As soon as Saturn antar dasa came,

> his

>>>>> father

>>>>>> died and he became the PM.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> See the Navamsa. Jupiter is in Capricorn, trine to

> Virgo.

>> So

>>> Tr

>>>>>> Saturn damage father's life as Jupiter is the lord of the

> 8th

>>>>> from

>>>>>> 9th house of Rasi. This proves, all negative effects come

>> from

>>>>> the

>>>>>> bhavas related to planets in trine or 7th from the Sign of

> Tr

>>>>> Saturn

>>>>>> in Navamsa.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Did you find in your Navamsa chart any planets in Trine

> or

>>> 7th

>>>>> to

>>>>>> Cancer ?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Perhaps there can be many reasons, but I use this simple

>> rule

>>>>> from

>>>>>> Devakaralam.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Best Wishes

>>>>>>> Karu

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> -

>>>>>>> b_lakshmi_ramesh

>>>>>>> sohamsa

>>>>>>> Thursday, November 02, 2006 8:51 PM

>>>>>>> Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-

>>> Respected

>>>>>> Sir Dakshinamoorthy ji

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Om Gurave Namah

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Namaste Ramdas Raoji,

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Thanks for your learned explanation and bracing words.

> As

>> you

>>>>>> said,

>>>>>>> Mother's grace can indeed ward off all evils, as do

>> blessings

>>>>>> from

>>>>>>> good people like you.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I do agree that a strong Jupiter in lagna gives me a lot

> of

>>>>>> immunity.

>>>>>>> I was also wondering if Saturn's association with the

> 8th

>>>>>> house/lord

>>>>>>> in the natal chart has something to do with this,

> because

>>>>> Partha

>>>>>> had

>>>>>>> also not experienced any malefic results of ashtama

> shani

>> and

>>>>> he

>>>>>> has

>>>>>>> Saturn in 8th house (cancer) in his natal chart.

> Ofcourse

>> he

>>>>> also

>>>>>> had

>>>>>>> Rahu dasa running and Rahu aspects 9th house, as does

> his

>>>>>> dispositor,

>>>>>>> Venus.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> This is just a thought...

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Regards,

>>>>>>> Lakshmi

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> sohamsa , Ramadas Rao

> <ramadasrao@>

>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

>>>>>>>> OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

>>>>>>>> Dear Lakshmi Ji,

>>>>>>>> In your chart, Lagna lord Guru is in Lagna which is

> his

>>> Moola

>>>>>>> Trikona Sthana and has got highest Shadbala

> strength.This

>>>>>> indicates

>>>>>>> God's Blessings are with you ,so no planetary

> afflictions

>>>>> during

>>>>>>> their transit will affect your life !!Eventhough Guru is

> in

>>> the

>>>>>>> beginning of the Rashi, he is in Devalokamsha.Also he

> has

>>>>> highest

>>>>>>> Vimshopaka Bala.So either Sadesathi or Kantaka Shani or

>>> Ashtama

>>>>>> Shani

>>>>>>> will not affect you.Just see, you are born on Thursday,

>> your

>>>>>> Janma

>>>>>>> Nakshatra is Poorvashada ruled by Shukra who in Navamsha

> is

>>>>>> placed in

>>>>>>> Kumbhamsha which is near to Ucchamsha.So this indicates

>>> Mother

>>>>>> Lalita

>>>>>>> Tripura Sundari's Blessings are with you.So how the

> other

>>>>> Grahas

>>>>>> in

>>>>>>> their adverse positions will harm you ??

>>>>>>>> I think you got the reply now.

>>>>>>>> With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

>>>>>>>> Ramadas Rao.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh@>

>>>>>>>> sohamsa

>>>>>>>> Tuesday, 31 October, 2006 10:03:34 AM

>>>>>>>> Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-

>>>>> Respected

>>>>>> Sir

>>>>>>> Dakshinamoorthy ji

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Om Gurave Namah

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Namaste friends,

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I have one query regarding ashtama shani. Saturn has

> been

>>>>>>> transiting

>>>>>>>> my 8th house (both from lagna and from moon) for the

> past

>>> two

>>>>>> and

>>>>>>> odd

>>>>>>>> years, yet i have not faced any difficulty

>>>>>>> whatsoever.. .healthwise,

>>>>>>>> wealthwise or happinesswise! ! Except for a mild bout

> of

>>>>>> jaundice

>>>>>>> for

>>>>>>>> my younger son, I have not experienced any difficulty,

> by

>>>>> god's

>>>>>>>> grace. On the contrary, infact, this period has been

> one

>> of

>>>>> the

>>>>>>>> healthiest/happiest /most prosperous periods in my

> life,

>>>>>> despite

>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>> fact that i quit my job in may 2004!!

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I have observed from some of my friends' charts that

>>> ashtama

>>>>>> shani

>>>>>>>> has indeed been tough for them, so I am really puzzled

>> and

>>>>>> curious

>>>>>>>> (also very thankful)as to how god has spared me.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I request my friends to help me unravel this puzzle.

> This

>>>>> would

>>>>>>> also

>>>>>>>> help me to understand what factors can counteract

> ashtama

>>>>>> shani,

>>>>>>>> though I agree that analysis of one's own chart may

> not

>> be

>>>>> the

>>>>>> best

>>>>>>>> way to do that!!

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> My birth data is

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> September 1, 1960

>>>>>>>> Time: 3:24:22 pm

>>>>>>>> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

>>>>>>>> Place: Hyderabad, AP (78 E 30', 17 N 20')

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> If some one else has similar experience of a

> beneficial

>>>>> ashtama

>>>>>>> shani

>>>>>>>> period(!!), i request them to share their birth data,

> so

>>> that

>>>>>> it

>>>>>>>> would help me in bettering my understanding.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Regards,

>>>>>>>> Lakshmi

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> sohamsa@ .com, Kaartik Gor

>>> <astro_gor@ ..>

>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Om Sai Ram

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Respected Sir,

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> You are right in 8'th lord in 10'th ...In my Dasamsa

>> D10

>>> my

>>>>>> 8'th

>>>>>>>> lord (Saturn) is in 10'th (deblitated in Mesh).

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Jyotish gives me lot of satisfaction. ...any

> particular

>>>>>> reason ??

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> ALso I am undergoing Saturn Mahadasha and my Mercury

>>>>>> antardasa is

>>>>>>>> next which is also in 10'th house of D10....what are

> the

>>>>>> effects of

>>>>>>>> it being with a weak saturn ??

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> I think a weak saturn actually is good ?? am I

> right ??

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Any remedies for a better career...when will I get

> my

>>>>>> promotion.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Birth Data

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> 04/05/1976

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> 05:38:00 am

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Ahmedabad, Gujarat

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> India

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Lagna is Aries and Moon Sign is Gemini.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Thanking you in advance.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Kaartik Gor

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer@ ...> wrote:

>>>>>>>>> Dear Member:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> As I have repeatedly said in my earlier posts, 8th

> lord

>>> in

>>>>>> the

>>>>>>> 10th

>>>>>>>>> house is definitely not a good indicator for

>> professional

>>>>>>>>> satisfaction. In ashtakavarga chart (SAV), the no.

> of

>>>>> bindus

>>>>>> in

>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>> 12th house is significantly more than the no. of

> bindus

>>> in

>>>>>> either

>>>>>>>>> 10th house (service), 11th house (business) or even

>>>>>> lagna....so,

>>>>>>> on

>>>>>>>> a

>>>>>>>>> mundane level, your professional aspects look quite

>>> tough!

>>>>>>> However,

>>>>>>>>> in your case, the 6th lord Mars is also in the 10th.

>> The

>>>>>>>> combination

>>>>>>>>> of 6th and 8th house lords may give mild vipareetha

>> raaja

>>>>>> yoga

>>>>>>> (by

>>>>>>>>> traditional definitions, this is not vipareeta raja

>> yoga;

>>>>> by

>>>>>>>>> tradition, the bad house lord should be in another

> bad

>>>>>>> house...but

>>>>>>>> in

>>>>>>>>> practice, the combination of two bad lords does

> produce

>>>>> some

>>>>>>>>> vipareeta raaja yoga effects in many real cases.

> Astro

>>>>>>> researchers

>>>>>>>>> of this forum may check whether this " hypothesis "

>>> works!).

>>>>>> Mars

>>>>>>> in

>>>>>>>>> your case, is also the lagna lord and it is in the

>> house

>>> of

>>>>>> its

>>>>>>>> yoga

>>>>>>>>> kaaraka Moreover, your 10th lord is in the 11th

> house

>>> which

>>>>>>>>> indicates gains from one's profession. So, in my

>> opinion,

>>>>> you

>>>>>> may

>>>>>>>> be

>>>>>>>>> able to get a sudden life in your profession

> especially

>>>>> after

>>>>>>> your

>>>>>>>>> 41st year. Kindly try to consolidate yourself in any

>>>>> position

>>>>>> not

>>>>>>>>> only now, but even in the future. Take only

> considered

>>>>> steps

>>>>>> in

>>>>>>>>> profession.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Regarding spirituality, you will gain a lot by

> worship

>> of

>>>>>> Lord

>>>>>>>>> Krishna signigying Moon....this will give you rare

>>>>> spiritual

>>>>>>>>> awakenings. Reading of Bhagavat Gita and

> Naaraayaneeyam

>>>>> will

>>>>>> be

>>>>>>>>> auspicious to you. (Moon conjunct Rahu and

>> Jupiter...Moon

>>>>> is

>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>> 9th

>>>>>>>>> house lord; Jupiter is the 5th house lord).

> Similarly,

>>>>>> worship of

>>>>>>>>> Lord Lakshmi Narasimha or Goddess Pratiyangira will

>> help

>>>>> you

>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>> awaken your kundalini shakti. (do either

> one...kindly

>> do

>>>>> not

>>>>>> do

>>>>>>>> both

>>>>>>>>> at the same time if you are doing serious

> sadhanaas...

>> I

>>>>> have

>>>>>> a

>>>>>>>> strong

>>>>>>>>> reason to say this though I would not like to

> divulge

>> it

>>> to

>>>>>> you

>>>>>>>> now).

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Your spiritual life seems very promising. For

> success

>> in

>>>>>>>>> professional aspects, satisfy Sun by chanting 'Shri

>> Raama

>>>>>>>>> Pattaabhisheka sargam " with devotion regularly.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Regarding ashtama sani, you will be out of its grasp

>> from

>>>>>>> November

>>>>>>>>> 2006. so, nothing to worry about the future due to

>>> ashtama

>>>>>> sani.

>>>>>>>> The

>>>>>>>>> worst is probably over for you!

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Blessed be.

>>>>>>>>> Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

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>>>>>>>>> In vedic astrology, " mgoel1973 "

>>>>>> <mgoel1973@>

>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Respected Sir,

>>>>>>>>>> My DOB is 16/9/72 and time is 12:22 pm.place of

> birth

>>>>>> roorkee.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Sir,

>>>>>>>>>> Am I going under the period of ashtama shani.How

> this

>>>>> will

>>>>>>> affect

>>>>>>>>> me.I

>>>>>>>>>> am not doing well in the job area.What remedies

>> should

>>> I

>>>>> do

>>>>>> for

>>>>>>>>> better

>>>>>>>>>> job prospects and all round satisfaction, Sir,I am

>> also

>>>>>>> spritually

>>>>>>>>>> inclined.What has the fate in store for me ?

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OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH Dear Lakshmi Ji, Thanks for the informations given.So I strongly feel that if the 8th lord is in Pushkaramsha, during Shani's transit over 8th from Chandra will give auspicious results. But on the same time, if some malefic planet is there in 8th house and Shani's transit over such a planet will produce some untoward incidents but such bad incidents will happen related to the Karakattwas of such malefic planet. I hope this helps. With Shri Hari vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote: Om Gurave NamahNamaste Ramdas Raoji,Yes, Partha's moon, his 8th lord, is also in pushkara navamsa as well as in pushkara bhaga. This information is given by Partha himself. So, your point about 8th lord's strength turning ashtama shani into a beneficial experience is already proved in 3 cases. Perhaps other friends would share their experiences & feelings. The following is the table given by Partha about pushkara navamsa.Mesha signThul navamsa(7th)Dhanu navamsa(9th)Vrishabha signVrishabh

navamsa(5rd)Meen navamsa(3rd)Mithun signVrishabh navamsa(8th )Meen navamsa(6th)Karka signKanya navamsa(3rd)Karka navamsa(1st)Simha signThul navamsa(7th)Dhanu navamsa(9th)Kanya signVrishabh navamsa(5th)Meen navamsa(3rd)Thul signVrishabh navamsa(8th)Meen navamsa(6th)Vrischik signKanya navamsa(3rd)Karka navamsa(1st)Dhanu signThul navamsa(7th)Dhanu navamsa(9th)Makar signVrishabh navamsa(5th)Meen navamsa(3rd)Kumbh signVrishabh navamsa(8th)Meen navamsa(6th)Meen signKanya navamsa(3rd)Karka navamsa(1st)Regards,Lakshmisohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote:>> OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH> OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH> Dear Lakshmi Ji,> Thanks for your views.Please check

Partha's chart and I hope you will get the answer.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:> Om Gurave Namah> > Namaste Ramadas Raoji,> > Thanks for sharing your ashtama shani experiences with us. Your > Saturn is not only lagna/2nd lord and shubhapati, but is also posited > in the 9th house...indicating your great spirituality and dharmic > nature. For such a person, it's no wonder that ashtama shani turned > out to be beneficial. So, my conjecture about ashtama shani (in > tandem with Tr Jupiter)triggering karmic life-events is not incorrect.> > Another point you've made about the lord of ashtama bhava being in > Pushkaramsa and that having made the ashtama shani is also very > interesting and thought provoking. incidentally, my 8th lord, moon is >

also in pushkaramsa. Is Partha's moon also in pushkaramsa? I'll have > to check!!> > regards,> Lakshmi > > sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao@> wrote:> >> > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH> > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH> > Dear Lakshmi Ji and other members of this list,> > It is very interesting to read everybody's experiences during the > difficult transits of Shani.> > Now let me give some inputs of Shani's transit over 8th house > from Lagna and Chandra in my life for the 1st time.Shani entered > Simha Rashi on 7/9/1977 and entered Kanya Rashi on 27/7/1980.During > the beginning of Shani's transit I was working in a Central -State > government company and my salary was just revised just befor Shani > entered Simha Rashi.In 1978,between

April to May, there was a strike > in our company,so there was no salary for one month but by May end, > the strike ended with success and we got the salary for the strike > period and also got promoted to a higher category from July > 1978.During the same period, my engagement was fixed and I got > married on 17th of Nov.1978.We both of us went to different places > during Jan.1979 including Tirupaty and Mantralaya Shri Raghavendra > Swami Ji Brindavan.On Oct.1979, I was blessed with a male child > also.Shani left Simha rashi on 27/7/1980.So during this whole trasnit > of Shani on 8th house from Lagna and Chandra was a Blessed one> > for me.During the above said period,Guru in transit was in Mithuna > ( 6th house ), 7th house in 1978 and then in 1979 -1980 in Simha > Rashi in 8th house.So this clearly indicates Shani's transit in 8th > house from Lagna and Chandra

Rashi has given beneficial results.For > Makara Lagna, Shani is Lagna and 2nd house lord and is a benefic for > this Lagna.Another important thing I learnt from this transit is > eventhough the transit of Shani over 8th house is bad ,if his sign > lord ie., Surya is placed in Meena Rashi in 3rd from both Lagna and > Chandra and is in Pushkaramsha.This Surya's Pushkaramsha has lifted > me and blessed with auspicious results during the Shani's transit > over Simha Rashi.During the above transit, Guru-Shani, Guru-Budha and > Guru-Ketu was running using 360 Savana days per year.Now Shani again > came to Simha rashi which is 8th from Lagna and Chandra.I pray God > that this transit also proves beneficial to me in all the ways.> > I am sharing this experience to all the members of the list for > further discussion.> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,>

> Ramadas Rao.> > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:> > Om Gurave Namah> > > > Dear Karu,> > > > Namaste. > > > > It was very interesting to read about your experiences during > Saturn > > transit. I also agree that Saturn is one planet who teaches us hard > > lessons and he's always kind to those who are willing to learn.> > > > Regarding Partha, he's like a child...walking out in a huff when > he's > > hurt or angry, like we all are at some or other juncture in life. > But > > I must say that his affection for SJC and Guruji never wavered, and > I > > very much consider him as one of us. > > > > Thanks for bringing it to my notice because curiously enough this > > ashtama shani seems to have favourably impacted on the

chara karaka> > (twa)s of the planets in trines & aspected by Tr Saturn in > > navamsa...he's gained a lovely wife and a better job (moon as DK), > > he's soon going to be a proud father (Mercury-PK), he's found > > nurturing/protection from an equally lovely mother-like person > > (Saturn as MK) and perhaps he's coming into his own or evolving as > a > > person too(Sun as AK). > > > > It could also have happened because Tr Jupiter was simultaneously > > aspecting his natal 3rd, 5th, 6th, 7th and 9th houses by rasi/graha > > drishtis. > > > > Manifestation of dharmic & karmic connections? > > > > I do not know if he's found a Guru too.> > > > Regards,> > Lakshmi> > > > sohamsa , "Karu" <heen@> wrote:> > >> > > Hare Rama Krshna> > > > > > Dear Lakshmi,> > > > > > I finished a real bad time when Saturn transit in Gemini, in my > > Lagna. I have Rahu, Moon, Guru, Venus in trine to Gemini in navamsa > > and I suffered a lot. Gemini is A5 and I forget all Manthra and > > cleared the path for Yama Raj. When the Saturn in exact degrees of > > Lagna, I lost all control over Dhi.> > > > > > But, due to blessings of Guru, I consider this was one of the > best > > time in my life. It removed fear of death, and gave me many in > > retun. If I not face such terible time, I still consider God as > > enemies, and still my heart beat is depending on out siders. > > > > > >

So Lakshmi, Why we are waiting for only adverse effects when > Saturn > > transit over 8th or any bad places ? For spiritual progress, this > is > > a disguise blessing. > > > > > > Partha has Sun and Moon in trine. Can you remember Partha > > dissapointed and left us ? How do you explain this ? Is this has > some > > thing to do with Mana and self ? Again this is only a one angle of > > looking. We may learn in more in future. Yes, Murthi also has lot > to > > do.> > > Please pass my regards to Sasank and Ramesh. My best wishes and > > congradulation for his win.> > > > > > Here is the chart of X PM.> > > > > > Dudley Senanayake> > > June 19, 1911> > > Time: 12:15:51 pm> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > Place: 79 E

51' 00", 6 N 56' 00"> > > > > > Thanks> > > Karu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh > > > sohamsa > > > Tuesday, November 07, 2006 1:06 AM> > > Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-Respected > > Sir Dakshinamoorthy ji> > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > Dear Karu,> > > > > > Namaste. No, I can't see the attachment, because do > > not > > > store attachments. Could you please give the birth data, so that > > I > > > can generate the chart and appreciate your input better?> > >

> > > Thanks for the input from Devakeralam. I appreciate the point > > you've > > > made. In navamsa, I do not have any planets in trines or in 7th > > to Tr > > > Saturn in cancer. Only Navamsa ascendant is in trines to Tr > > saturn, > > > so does that make any difference?> > > > > > But in Partha's case, there are planets in trines & 7th from Tr > > > Saturn, but he said that he did not feel the adverse impct of > > ashtama > > > shani. > > > > > > I think one needs to analyse the transit effect from all the > > > perspectives of murthi, operating dasa, natal & navamsa > > placements > > > and perhaps consider what result is predominantly thrown up by > > these > > > examinations.> > > > > > Sasank (my younger

son) sends his loving regards to his favourite > > > Karu uncle, and he's so happy that Australia won the Champions > > > trophy. > > > > > > Regards,> > > Lakshmi> > > > > > sohamsa , "Karu" <heen@> wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA> > > > > > > > Dear Lakshmi,> > > > Please see the attached chart.> > > > > > > > In 1952, When Saturn is in Lagna, as well as 8th from the Moon, > > he > > > was passing Mercury Mahadasa and Saturn Antar dasa. He became the > > > prime minister of Sri Lanka. His father was the first prime > > minister > > > of Sri Lanka.> > > > > > > >

Strong Mercury gave him the Rajayoga, but has Papa (or kroora) > > > Argala from 12th lord Sun (Father). In the natal chart, Saturn > > and > > > Rahu obstruct argala of Sun, and promised to activate the Raja > > yoga > > > when the time comes. As soon as Saturn antar dasa came, his > > father > > > died and he became the PM.> > > > > > > > See the Navamsa. Jupiter is in Capricorn, trine to Virgo. So Tr > > > Saturn damage father's life as Jupiter is the lord of the 8th > > from > > > 9th house of Rasi. This proves, all negative effects come from > > the > > > bhavas related to planets in trine or 7th from the Sign of Tr > > Saturn > > > in Navamsa.> > > > > > > > Did you find in your Navamsa chart any planets in Trine or 7th >

> to > > > Cancer ?> > > > > > > > Perhaps there can be many reasons, but I use this simple rule > > from > > > Devakaralam.> > > > > > > > Best Wishes> > > > Karu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh > > > > sohamsa > > > > Thursday, November 02, 2006 8:51 PM> > > > Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-Respected > > > Sir Dakshinamoorthy ji> > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > > > Namaste Ramdas Raoji,> > >

> > > > > Thanks for your learned explanation and bracing words. As you > > > said, > > > > Mother's grace can indeed ward off all evils, as do blessings > > > from > > > > good people like you. > > > > > > > > I do agree that a strong Jupiter in lagna gives me a lot of > > > immunity. > > > > I was also wondering if Saturn's association with the 8th > > > house/lord > > > > in the natal chart has something to do with this, because > > Partha > > > had > > > > also not experienced any malefic results of ashtama shani and > > he > > > has > > > > Saturn in 8th house (cancer) in his natal chart. Ofcourse he > > also > > > had > > > > Rahu dasa running and Rahu aspects 9th house, as does his

> > > dispositor, > > > > Venus.> > > > > > > > This is just a thought...> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Lakshmi> > > > > > > > sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH> > > > > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH> > > > > Dear Lakshmi Ji,> > > > > In your chart, Lagna lord Guru is in Lagna which is his Moola > > > > Trikona Sthana and has got highest Shadbala strength.This > > > indicates > > > > God's Blessings are with you ,so no planetary afflictions > > during > > > > their transit will affect your life !!Eventhough Guru is in

the > > > > beginning of the Rashi, he is in Devalokamsha.Also he has > > highest > > > > Vimshopaka Bala.So either Sadesathi or Kantaka Shani or Ashtama > > > Shani > > > > will not affect you.Just see, you are born on Thursday, your > > > Janma > > > > Nakshatra is Poorvashada ruled by Shukra who in Navamsha is > > > placed in > > > > Kumbhamsha which is near to Ucchamsha.So this indicates Mother > > > Lalita > > > > Tripura Sundari's Blessings are with you.So how the other > > Grahas > > > in > > > > their adverse positions will harm you ??> > > > > I think you got the reply now.> > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> > > > > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh@>> > > > > sohamsa > > > > > Tuesday, 31 October, 2006 10:03:34 AM> > > > > Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-> > Respected > > > Sir > > > > Dakshinamoorthy ji> > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > > > > > Namaste friends,> > > > > > > > > > I have one query regarding ashtama shani. Saturn has been > > > > transiting > > > > > my 8th house (both from lagna and from moon) for the past two > > > and > > > > odd > > > > > years, yet i

have not faced any difficulty > > > > whatsoever.. .healthwise, > > > > > wealthwise or happinesswise! ! Except for a mild bout of > > > jaundice > > > > for > > > > > my younger son, I have not experienced any difficulty, by > > god's > > > > > grace. On the contrary, infact, this period has been one of > > the > > > > > healthiest/happiest /most prosperous periods in my life, > > > despite > > > > the > > > > > fact that i quit my job in may 2004!!> > > > > > > > > > I have observed from some of my friends' charts that ashtama > > > shani > > > > > has indeed been tough for them, so I am really puzzled and > > > curious > > > > > (also very thankful)as to how god has spared me.

> > > > > > > > > > I request my friends to help me unravel this puzzle. This > > would > > > > also > > > > > help me to understand what factors can counteract ashtama > > > shani, > > > > > though I agree that analysis of one's own chart may not be > > the > > > best > > > > > way to do that!!> > > > > > > > > > My birth data is > > > > > > > > > > September 1, 1960> > > > > Time: 3:24:22 pm> > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > Place: Hyderabad, AP (78 E 30', 17 N 20')> > > > > > > > > > If some one else has similar experience of a beneficial > > ashtama > > > > shani > > > > >

period(!!), i request them to share their birth data, so that > > > it > > > > > would help me in bettering my understanding.> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > Lakshmi> > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Kaartik Gor <astro_gor@ ..> > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Om Sai Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sir,> > > > > > > > > > > > You are right in 8'th lord in 10'th ...In my Dasamsa D10 my > > > 8'th > > > > > lord (Saturn) is in 10'th (deblitated in Mesh).> > > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish gives me lot of satisfaction. ...any particular > > > reason ??> > > >

> > > > > > > > ALso I am undergoing Saturn Mahadasha and my Mercury > > > antardasa is > > > > > next which is also in 10'th house of D10....what are the > > > effects of > > > > > it being with a weak saturn ??> > > > > > > > > > > > I think a weak saturn actually is good ?? am I right ??> > > > > > > > > > > > Any remedies for a better career...when will I get my > > > promotion.> > > > > > > > > > > > Birth Data> > > > > > > > > > > > 04/05/1976> > > > > > > > > > > > 05:38:00 am> > > > > > > > > > > > Ahmedabad, Gujarat > > > > > > > > > > > > India> >

> > > > > > > > > > Lagna is Aries and Moon Sign is Gemini.> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you in advance.> > > > > > > > > > > > Kaartik Gor> > > > > > > > > > > > dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > Dear Member:> > > > > > > > > > > > As I have repeatedly said in my earlier posts, 8th lord in > > > the > > > > 10th > > > > > > house is definitely not a good indicator for professional > > > > > > satisfaction. In ashtakavarga chart (SAV), the no. of > > bindus > > > in > > > > the > > > > > > 12th house is significantly more than the no. of bindus in > > >

either > > > > > > 10th house (service), 11th house (business) or even > > > lagna....so, > > > > on > > > > > a > > > > > > mundane level, your professional aspects look quite tough! > > > > However, > > > > > > in your case, the 6th lord Mars is also in the 10th. The > > > > > combination > > > > > > of 6th and 8th house lords may give mild vipareetha raaja > > > yoga > > > > (by > > > > > > traditional definitions, this is not vipareeta raja yoga; > > by > > > > > > tradition, the bad house lord should be in another bad > > > > house...but > > > > > in > > > > > > practice, the combination of two bad lords does produce > > some > > > >

> > vipareeta raaja yoga effects in many real cases. Astro > > > > researchers > > > > > > of this forum may check whether this "hypothesis" works!). > > > Mars > > > > in > > > > > > your case, is also the lagna lord and it is in the house of > > > its > > > > > yoga > > > > > > kaaraka Moreover, your 10th lord is in the 11th house which > > > > > > indicates gains from one's profession. So, in my opinion, > > you > > > may > > > > > be > > > > > > able to get a sudden life in your profession especially > > after > > > > your > > > > > > 41st year. Kindly try to consolidate yourself in any > > position > > > not > > > > > > only now, but

even in the future. Take only considered > > steps > > > in > > > > > > profession.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding spirituality, you will gain a lot by worship of > > > Lord > > > > > > Krishna signigying Moon....this will give you rare > > spiritual > > > > > > awakenings. Reading of Bhagavat Gita and Naaraayaneeyam > > will > > > be > > > > > > auspicious to you. (Moon conjunct Rahu and Jupiter...Moon > > is > > > the > > > > > 9th > > > > > > house lord; Jupiter is the 5th house lord). Similarly, > > > worship of > > > > > > Lord Lakshmi Narasimha or Goddess Pratiyangira will help > > you > > > to > > > > > > awaken your

kundalini shakti. (do either one...kindly do > > not > > > do > > > > > both > > > > > > at the same time if you are doing serious sadhanaas... I > > have > > > a > > > > > strong > > > > > > reason to say this though I would not like to divulge it to > > > you > > > > > now).> > > > > > > > > > > > Your spiritual life seems very promising. For success in > > > > > > professional aspects, satisfy Sun by chanting 'Shri Raama > > > > > > Pattaabhisheka sargam" with devotion regularly.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding ashtama sani, you will be out of its grasp from > > > > November > > > > > > 2006. so, nothing to worry about the future due to

ashtama > > > sani. > > > > > The > > > > > > worst is probably over for you!> > > > > > > > > > > > Blessed be.> > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.> > > > > > > > > > > > In vedic astrology, "mgoel1973" > > > <mgoel1973@> > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Respected Sir,> > > > > > > My DOB is 16/9/72 and time is 12:22 pm.place of birth > > > roorkee.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir,> > > > > > > Am I going under the period of ashtama shani.How this > > will > > > > affect > > > > > > me.I > > > > > > > am not doing

well in the job area.What remedies should I > > do > > > for > > > > > > better > > > > > > > job prospects and all round satisfaction, Sir,I am also > > > > spritually > > > > > > > inclined.What has the fate in store for me ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > > > > > http://uk.messenger .> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH Dear Lakshmi Ji, Yes, you are correct.Shani's transit over Rahu has given evil results. With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote: Om Gurave

NamahNamaste Ramdas Raoji,Raghu Nemani's moon is also in pushkaramsa...and he did have a successful period, though not without some bad & sad events...which are perhaps attributable to Saturn's transit over natal Rahu?Regards,Lakshmisohamsa , "b_lakshmi_ramesh" <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:>> Om Gurave Namah> > Namaste Ramdas Raoji,> > Yes, Partha's moon, his 8th lord, is also in pushkara navamsa as well > as in pushkara bhaga. This information is given by Partha himself. > > So, your point about 8th lord's strength turning ashtama shani into a > beneficial experience is already proved in 3 cases. Perhaps other > friends would share their experiences & feelings. The following is > the table given by Partha about pushkara navamsa.>

> > Mesha sign> Thul navamsa(7th)> Dhanu navamsa(9th)> > Vrishabha sign> Vrishabh navamsa(5rd)> Meen navamsa(3rd)> > Mithun sign> Vrishabh navamsa(8th )> Meen navamsa(6th)> > Karka sign> Kanya navamsa(3rd)> Karka navamsa(1st)> > Simha sign> Thul navamsa(7th)> Dhanu navamsa(9th)> > Kanya sign> Vrishabh navamsa(5th)> Meen navamsa(3rd)> > Thul sign> Vrishabh navamsa(8th)> Meen navamsa(6th)> > Vrischik sign> Kanya navamsa(3rd)> Karka navamsa(1st)> > Dhanu sign> Thul navamsa(7th)> Dhanu navamsa(9th)> > Makar sign> Vrishabh navamsa(5th)> Meen navamsa(3rd)> > Kumbh sign> Vrishabh navamsa(8th)> Meen navamsa(6th)> > Meen sign> Kanya navamsa(3rd)> Karka

navamsa(1st)> > Regards,> Lakshmi> > > > sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao@> wrote:> >> > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH> > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH> > Dear Lakshmi Ji,> > Thanks for your views.Please check Partha's chart and I hope you > will get the answer.> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> > Ramadas Rao.> > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:> > Om Gurave Namah> > > > Namaste Ramadas Raoji,> > > > Thanks for sharing your ashtama shani experiences with us. Your > > Saturn is not only lagna/2nd lord and shubhapati, but is also > posited > > in the 9th house...indicating your great spirituality and dharmic > >

nature. For such a person, it's no wonder that ashtama shani turned > > out to be beneficial. So, my conjecture about ashtama shani (in > > tandem with Tr Jupiter)triggering karmic life-events is not > incorrect.> > > > Another point you've made about the lord of ashtama bhava being in > > Pushkaramsa and that having made the ashtama shani is also very > > interesting and thought provoking. incidentally, my 8th lord, moon > is > > also in pushkaramsa. Is Partha's moon also in pushkaramsa? I'll > have > > to check!!> > > > regards,> > Lakshmi > > > > sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao@> wrote:> > >> > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH> > > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH> > > Dear

Lakshmi Ji and other members of this list,> > > It is very interesting to read everybody's experiences during the > > difficult transits of Shani.> > > Now let me give some inputs of Shani's transit over 8th house > > from Lagna and Chandra in my life for the 1st time.Shani entered > > Simha Rashi on 7/9/1977 and entered Kanya Rashi on 27/7/1980.During > > the beginning of Shani's transit I was working in a Central -State > > government company and my salary was just revised just befor Shani > > entered Simha Rashi.In 1978,between April to May, there was a > strike > > in our company,so there was no salary for one month but by May end, > > the strike ended with success and we got the salary for the strike > > period and also got promoted to a higher category from July > > 1978.During the same period, my engagement was

fixed and I got > > married on 17th of Nov.1978.We both of us went to different places > > during Jan.1979 including Tirupaty and Mantralaya Shri Raghavendra > > Swami Ji Brindavan.On Oct.1979, I was blessed with a male child > > also.Shani left Simha rashi on 27/7/1980.So during this whole > trasnit > > of Shani on 8th house from Lagna and Chandra was a Blessed one> > > for me.During the above said period,Guru in transit was in > Mithuna > > ( 6th house ), 7th house in 1978 and then in 1979 -1980 in Simha > > Rashi in 8th house.So this clearly indicates Shani's transit in 8th > > house from Lagna and Chandra Rashi has given beneficial results.For > > Makara Lagna, Shani is Lagna and 2nd house lord and is a benefic > for > > this Lagna.Another important thing I learnt from this transit is > > eventhough the transit

of Shani over 8th house is bad ,if his sign > > lord ie., Surya is placed in Meena Rashi in 3rd from both Lagna and > > Chandra and is in Pushkaramsha.This Surya's Pushkaramsha has lifted > > me and blessed with auspicious results during the Shani's transit > > over Simha Rashi.During the above transit, Guru-Shani, Guru-Budha > and > > Guru-Ketu was running using 360 Savana days per year.Now Shani > again > > came to Simha rashi which is 8th from Lagna and Chandra.I pray God > > that this transit also proves beneficial to me in all the ways.> > > I am sharing this experience to all the members of the list for > > further discussion.> > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> > > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:> > > Om Gurave

Namah> > > > > > Dear Karu,> > > > > > Namaste. > > > > > > It was very interesting to read about your experiences during > > Saturn > > > transit. I also agree that Saturn is one planet who teaches us > hard > > > lessons and he's always kind to those who are willing to learn.> > > > > > Regarding Partha, he's like a child...walking out in a huff when > > he's > > > hurt or angry, like we all are at some or other juncture in life. > > But > > > I must say that his affection for SJC and Guruji never wavered, > and > > I > > > very much consider him as one of us. > > > > > > Thanks for bringing it to my notice because curiously enough this > > > ashtama shani seems to have favourably impacted on the chara

> karaka> > > (twa)s of the planets in trines & aspected by Tr Saturn in > > > navamsa...he's gained a lovely wife and a better job (moon as > DK), > > > he's soon going to be a proud father (Mercury-PK), he's found > > > nurturing/protection from an equally lovely mother-like person > > > (Saturn as MK) and perhaps he's coming into his own or evolving > as > > a > > > person too(Sun as AK). > > > > > > It could also have happened because Tr Jupiter was simultaneously > > > aspecting his natal 3rd, 5th, 6th, 7th and 9th houses by > rasi/graha > > > drishtis. > > > > > > Manifestation of dharmic & karmic connections? > > > > > > I do not know if he's found a Guru too.> > > > > > Regards,> > >

Lakshmi> > > > > > sohamsa , "Karu" <heen@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Hare Rama Krshna> > > > > > > > Dear Lakshmi,> > > > > > > > I finished a real bad time when Saturn transit in Gemini, in my > > > Lagna. I have Rahu, Moon, Guru, Venus in trine to Gemini in > navamsa > > > and I suffered a lot. Gemini is A5 and I forget all Manthra and > > > cleared the path for Yama Raj. When the Saturn in exact degrees > of > > > Lagna, I lost all control over Dhi.> > > > > > > > But, due to blessings of Guru, I consider this was one of the > > best > > > time in my life. It removed fear of death, and gave me many in > > > retun. If I not face such terible

time, I still consider God as > > > enemies, and still my heart beat is depending on out siders. > > > > > > > > So Lakshmi, Why we are waiting for only adverse effects when > > Saturn > > > transit over 8th or any bad places ? For spiritual progress, this > > is > > > a disguise blessing. > > > > > > > > Partha has Sun and Moon in trine. Can you remember Partha > > > dissapointed and left us ? How do you explain this ? Is this has > > some > > > thing to do with Mana and self ? Again this is only a one angle > of > > > looking. We may learn in more in future. Yes, Murthi also has lot > > to > > > do.> > > > Please pass my regards to Sasank and Ramesh. My best wishes and > > > congradulation for his win.> > > >

> > > > Here is the chart of X PM.> > > > > > > > Dudley Senanayake> > > > June 19, 1911> > > > Time: 12:15:51 pm> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > Place: 79 E 51' 00", 6 N 56' 00"> > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > Karu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh > > > > sohamsa > > > > Tuesday, November 07, 2006 1:06 AM> > > > Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-Respected > > > Sir Dakshinamoorthy ji> > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave

Namah> > > > > > > > Dear Karu,> > > > > > > > Namaste. No, I can't see the attachment, because > do > > > not > > > > store attachments. Could you please give the birth data, so > that > > > I > > > > can generate the chart and appreciate your input better?> > > > > > > > Thanks for the input from Devakeralam. I appreciate the point > > > you've > > > > made. In navamsa, I do not have any planets in trines or in 7th > > > to Tr > > > > Saturn in cancer. Only Navamsa ascendant is in trines to Tr > > > saturn, > > > > so does that make any difference?> > > > > > > > But in Partha's case, there are planets in trines & 7th from Tr > > > > Saturn, but he

said that he did not feel the adverse impct of > > > ashtama > > > > shani. > > > > > > > > I think one needs to analyse the transit effect from all the > > > > perspectives of murthi, operating dasa, natal & navamsa > > > placements > > > > and perhaps consider what result is predominantly thrown up by > > > these > > > > examinations.> > > > > > > > Sasank (my younger son) sends his loving regards to his > favourite > > > > Karu uncle, and he's so happy that Australia won the Champions > > > > trophy. > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Lakshmi> > > > > > > > sohamsa , "Karu" <heen@> wrote:> >

> > >> > > > > > > > > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA> > > > > > > > > > Dear Lakshmi,> > > > > Please see the attached chart.> > > > > > > > > > In 1952, When Saturn is in Lagna, as well as 8th from the > Moon, > > > he > > > > was passing Mercury Mahadasa and Saturn Antar dasa. He became > the > > > > prime minister of Sri Lanka. His father was the first prime > > > minister > > > > of Sri Lanka.> > > > > > > > > > Strong Mercury gave him the Rajayoga, but has Papa (or > kroora) > > > > Argala from 12th lord Sun (Father). In the natal chart, Saturn > > > and > > > > Rahu obstruct argala of Sun, and promised to activate the Raja > > > yoga >

> > > when the time comes. As soon as Saturn antar dasa came, his > > > father > > > > died and he became the PM.> > > > > > > > > > See the Navamsa. Jupiter is in Capricorn, trine to Virgo. So > Tr > > > > Saturn damage father's life as Jupiter is the lord of the 8th > > > from > > > > 9th house of Rasi. This proves, all negative effects come from > > > the > > > > bhavas related to planets in trine or 7th from the Sign of Tr > > > Saturn > > > > in Navamsa.> > > > > > > > > > Did you find in your Navamsa chart any planets in Trine or > 7th > > > to > > > > Cancer ?> > > > > > > > > > Perhaps there can be many reasons, but I use this simple rule > > >

from > > > > Devakaralam.> > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes> > > > > Karu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh > > > > > sohamsa > > > > > Thursday, November 02, 2006 8:51 PM> > > > > Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-> Respected > > > > Sir Dakshinamoorthy ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > > > > > Namaste Ramdas Raoji,> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your

learned explanation and bracing words. As you > > > > said, > > > > > Mother's grace can indeed ward off all evils, as do blessings > > > > from > > > > > good people like you. > > > > > > > > > > I do agree that a strong Jupiter in lagna gives me a lot of > > > > immunity. > > > > > I was also wondering if Saturn's association with the 8th > > > > house/lord > > > > > in the natal chart has something to do with this, because > > > Partha > > > > had > > > > > also not experienced any malefic results of ashtama shani and > > > he > > > > has > > > > > Saturn in 8th house (cancer) in his natal chart. Ofcourse he > > > also > > > > had > > > >

> Rahu dasa running and Rahu aspects 9th house, as does his > > > > dispositor, > > > > > Venus.> > > > > > > > > > This is just a thought...> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > Lakshmi> > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao@> > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH> > > > > > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH> > > > > > Dear Lakshmi Ji,> > > > > > In your chart, Lagna lord Guru is in Lagna which is his > Moola > > > > > Trikona Sthana and has got highest Shadbala strength.This > > > > indicates > > > > > God's

Blessings are with you ,so no planetary afflictions > > > during > > > > > their transit will affect your life !!Eventhough Guru is in > the > > > > > beginning of the Rashi, he is in Devalokamsha.Also he has > > > highest > > > > > Vimshopaka Bala.So either Sadesathi or Kantaka Shani or > Ashtama > > > > Shani > > > > > will not affect you.Just see, you are born on Thursday, your > > > > Janma > > > > > Nakshatra is Poorvashada ruled by Shukra who in Navamsha is > > > > placed in > > > > > Kumbhamsha which is near to Ucchamsha.So this indicates > Mother > > > > Lalita > > > > > Tripura Sundari's Blessings are with you.So how the other > > > Grahas > > > > in > > > > > their

adverse positions will harm you ??> > > > > > I think you got the reply now.> > > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> > > > > > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh@>> > > > > > sohamsa > > > > > > Tuesday, 31 October, 2006 10:03:34 AM> > > > > > Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-> > > Respected > > > > Sir > > > > > Dakshinamoorthy ji> > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste

friends,> > > > > > > > > > > > I have one query regarding ashtama shani. Saturn has been > > > > > transiting > > > > > > my 8th house (both from lagna and from moon) for the past > two > > > > and > > > > > odd > > > > > > years, yet i have not faced any difficulty > > > > > whatsoever.. .healthwise, > > > > > > wealthwise or happinesswise! ! Except for a mild bout of > > > > jaundice > > > > > for > > > > > > my younger son, I have not experienced any difficulty, by > > > god's > > > > > > grace. On the contrary, infact, this period has been one of > > > the > > > > > > healthiest/happiest /most prosperous periods in my life, > > > >

despite > > > > > the > > > > > > fact that i quit my job in may 2004!!> > > > > > > > > > > > I have observed from some of my friends' charts that > ashtama > > > > shani > > > > > > has indeed been tough for them, so I am really puzzled and > > > > curious > > > > > > (also very thankful)as to how god has spared me. > > > > > > > > > > > > I request my friends to help me unravel this puzzle. This > > > would > > > > > also > > > > > > help me to understand what factors can counteract ashtama > > > > shani, > > > > > > though I agree that analysis of one's own chart may not be > > > the > > > > best > > > > > > way

to do that!!> > > > > > > > > > > > My birth data is > > > > > > > > > > > > September 1, 1960> > > > > > Time: 3:24:22 pm> > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > Place: Hyderabad, AP (78 E 30', 17 N 20')> > > > > > > > > > > > If some one else has similar experience of a beneficial > > > ashtama > > > > > shani > > > > > > period(!!), i request them to share their birth data, so > that > > > > it > > > > > > would help me in bettering my understanding.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Lakshmi> > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@

..com, Kaartik Gor > <astro_gor@ ..> > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Om Sai Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sir,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right in 8'th lord in 10'th ...In my Dasamsa D10 > my > > > > 8'th > > > > > > lord (Saturn) is in 10'th (deblitated in Mesh).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish gives me lot of satisfaction. ...any particular > > > > reason ??> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ALso I am undergoing Saturn Mahadasha and my Mercury > > > > antardasa is > > > > > > next which is also in 10'th house of D10....what are the > > > > effects of

> > > > > > it being with a weak saturn ??> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think a weak saturn actually is good ?? am I right ??> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any remedies for a better career...when will I get my > > > > promotion.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth Data> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 04/05/1976> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 05:38:00 am> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahmedabad, Gujarat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > India> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna is Aries and Moon Sign is Gemini.> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > Thanking you in advance.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kaartik Gor> > > > > > > > > > > > > > dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > Dear Member:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > As I have repeatedly said in my earlier posts, 8th lord > in > > > > the > > > > > 10th > > > > > > > house is definitely not a good indicator for professional > > > > > > > satisfaction. In ashtakavarga chart (SAV), the no. of > > > bindus > > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > 12th house is significantly more than the no. of bindus > in > > > > either > > > > > > > 10th house

(service), 11th house (business) or even > > > > lagna....so, > > > > > on > > > > > > a > > > > > > > mundane level, your professional aspects look quite > tough! > > > > > However, > > > > > > > in your case, the 6th lord Mars is also in the 10th. The > > > > > > combination > > > > > > > of 6th and 8th house lords may give mild vipareetha raaja > > > > yoga > > > > > (by > > > > > > > traditional definitions, this is not vipareeta raja yoga; > > > by > > > > > > > tradition, the bad house lord should be in another bad > > > > > house...but > > > > > > in > > > > > > > practice, the combination of two bad lords does

produce > > > some > > > > > > > vipareeta raaja yoga effects in many real cases. Astro > > > > > researchers > > > > > > > of this forum may check whether this "hypothesis" > works!). > > > > Mars > > > > > in > > > > > > > your case, is also the lagna lord and it is in the house > of > > > > its > > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > kaaraka Moreover, your 10th lord is in the 11th house > which > > > > > > > indicates gains from one's profession. So, in my opinion, > > > you > > > > may > > > > > > be > > > > > > > able to get a sudden life in your profession especially > > > after > > > > > your > > >

> > > > 41st year. Kindly try to consolidate yourself in any > > > position > > > > not > > > > > > > only now, but even in the future. Take only considered > > > steps > > > > in > > > > > > > profession.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding spirituality, you will gain a lot by worship of > > > > Lord > > > > > > > Krishna signigying Moon....this will give you rare > > > spiritual > > > > > > > awakenings. Reading of Bhagavat Gita and Naaraayaneeyam > > > will > > > > be > > > > > > > auspicious to you. (Moon conjunct Rahu and Jupiter...Moon > > > is > > > > the > > > > > > 9th > > > > > > >

house lord; Jupiter is the 5th house lord). Similarly, > > > > worship of > > > > > > > Lord Lakshmi Narasimha or Goddess Pratiyangira will help > > > you > > > > to > > > > > > > awaken your kundalini shakti. (do either one...kindly do > > > not > > > > do > > > > > > both > > > > > > > at the same time if you are doing serious sadhanaas... I > > > have > > > > a > > > > > > strong > > > > > > > reason to say this though I would not like to divulge it > to > > > > you > > > > > > now).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your spiritual life seems very promising. For success in > > > > > > >

professional aspects, satisfy Sun by chanting 'Shri Raama > > > > > > > Pattaabhisheka sargam" with devotion regularly.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding ashtama sani, you will be out of its grasp from > > > > > November > > > > > > > 2006. so, nothing to worry about the future due to > ashtama > > > > sani. > > > > > > The > > > > > > > worst is probably over for you!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blessed be.> > > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > In vedic astrology, "mgoel1973" > > > > <mgoel1973@> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> >

> > > > > > Respected Sir,> > > > > > > > My DOB is 16/9/72 and time is 12:22 pm.place of birth > > > > roorkee.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir,> > > > > > > > Am I going under the period of ashtama shani.How this > > > will > > > > > affect > > > > > > > me.I > > > > > > > > am not doing well in the job area.What remedies should > I > > > do > > > > for > > > > > > > better > > > > > > > > job prospects and all round satisfaction, Sir,I am also > > > > > spritually > > > > > > > > inclined.What has the fate in store for me ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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November 10, 2006

Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

Dear Yamini,

Here is my attempt;

1. You are going through ashtama Shani

from Lagna and Moon, plus Rahu antar in Jupiter MD usually is not very

smooth, as Jupiter does not like Rahu.

2. Anubhava may be related to 6H,i.e.

enmity, competition, health etc.

3. But then job front Jupiter is well

placed from Sun in D10 and will give good job availability. Rahu being

in trines to Moon gives anxieties. Placement of Rahu from Moon does not

indicate strong need or drive to find a job. Rahu is 11L placed in 2H,

so it should continue to bring you income. Current PD of Saturn, placed

in 5H, should give you new jobs.

4. I would time new job around X-mas

time, if you loose this one.

5. For Rahu in 9H, Sanjayji recommends

praying to Guru.

6. Just for information Moon is under

curse from Rahu and Mars. Difficult to remove since Mars is exalted and

Rahu is always retro. Also Rahu is AK. But the moola dasa indicates that

the period has passed. Moon being in lagna, shows that intention was good

and hence end result should be good!

I hope to learn from the comments of

gurus and co-students.

Best regards

Ramesh

yamini_krishnamoorti

Sent by: sohamsa

11/08/2006 04:44 AM

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Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-Respected

Sir Dakshinamoorthy ji

Dear All,

I will be losing my job by month end for the 2nd time in few

months. My birth date is 23-3-1960 3.50 AM Gulbarga. Sravana star

and I am also going through Ashtama shani.I am currently facing

multiple problems at home and in career. Kindly help me also.

With Best Regards

Yamini

sohamsa ,

" Michael Travass "

<michael.travass wrote:

>

> Dear Ramadas Rao,

>

> My Moon is located in Libra, AL in Sagittarius and Lagna is

Kumbha. During

> the period of Kantaka shani when Saturn was in Cancer I was

promoted, got a

> huge raise and relocated to a new place.

>

> I also made a deal to purchase a house in the first week of Oct

this year.

> Just before shani transited to Leo the owner withdrew from the

deal and I

> couldn't purchase the house. I have difficulties with my present

owner about

> my rent contract (which has expired).

>

> After shani entered Leo my difficulties at work has increased four

fold

> (note that I did not have much problems in Kantaka shani period)

and my

> relationship with my girl friend has finally ended.

>

> Shani in Leo is not an adverse transit for my chart but has seem

to have

> done lot of damage. Is it something to do with delayed results. I

mean to

> say are shani results delayed by 4 to 6 months.

>

> Regards,

>

> Mike

>

> sohamsa

[sohamsa ]

On

Behalf Of

> Ramadas Rao

> Tuesday, November 07, 2006 4:58 PM

> sohamsa

> Re: Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-

Respected Sir

> Dakshinamoorthy ji

>

> OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

> OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

> Dear Lakshmi Ji and other members of this list,

> It is very interesting to read everybody's experiences during the

difficult

> transits of Shani.

> Now let me give some inputs of Shani's transit over 8th house from

Lagna and

> Chandra in my life for the 1st time.Shani entered Simha Rashi on

7/9/1977

> and entered Kanya Rashi on 27/7/1980.During the beginning of

Shani's transit

> I was working in a Central -State government company and my salary

was just

> revised just befor Shani entered Simha Rashi.In 1978,between April

to May,

> there was a strike in our company,so there was no salary for one

month but

> by May end, the strike ended with success and we got the salary

for the

> strike period and also got promoted to a higher category from July

> 1978.During the same period, my engagement was fixed and I got

married on

> 17th of Nov.1978.We both of us went to different places during

Jan.1979

> including Tirupaty and Mantralaya Shri Raghavendra Swami Ji

Brindavan.On

> Oct.1979, I was blessed with a male child also.Shani left Simha

rashi on

> 27/7/1980.So during this whole trasnit of Shani on 8th house from

Lagna and

> Chandra was a Blessed one for me.During the above said period,Guru

in

> transit was in Mithuna ( 6th house ), 7th house in 1978 and then

in 1979

> -1980 in Simha Rashi in 8th house.So this clearly indicates

Shani's transit

> in 8th house from Lagna and Chandra Rashi has given beneficial

results.For

> Makara Lagna, Shani is Lagna and 2nd house lord and is a benefic

for this

> Lagna.Another important thing I learnt from this transit is

eventhough the

> transit of Shani over 8th house is bad ,if his sign lord ie.,

Surya is

> placed in Meena Rashi in 3rd from both Lagna and Chandra and is in

> Pushkaramsha.This Surya's Pushkaramsha has lifted me and blessed

with

> auspicious results during the Shani's transit over Simha

Rashi.During the

> above transit, Guru-Shani, Guru-Budha and Guru-Ketu was running

using 360

> Savana days per year.Now Shani again came to Simha rashi which is

8th from

> Lagna and Chandra.I pray God that this transit also proves

beneficial to me

> in all the ways.

> I am sharing this experience to all the members of the list for

further

> discussion.

> With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

> Ramadas Rao.

>

> b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote:

>

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Dear Karu,

>

> Namaste.

>

> It was very interesting to read about your experiences during

Saturn

> transit. I also agree that Saturn is one planet who teaches us

hard

> lessons and he's always kind to those who are willing to learn.

>

> Regarding Partha, he's like a child...walking out in a huff when

he's

> hurt or angry, like we all are at some or other juncture in life.

But

> I must say that his affection for SJC and Guruji never wavered,

and I

> very much consider him as one of us.

>

> Thanks for bringing it to my notice because curiously enough this

> ashtama shani seems to have favourably impacted on the chara karaka

> (twa)s of the planets in trines & aspected by Tr Saturn in

> navamsa...he's gained a lovely wife and a better job (moon as DK),

> he's soon going to be a proud father (Mercury-PK), he's found

> nurturing/protection from an equally lovely mother-like person

> (Saturn as MK) and perhaps he's coming into his own or evolving as

a

> person too(Sun as AK).

>

> It could also have happened because Tr Jupiter was simultaneously

> aspecting his natal 3rd, 5th, 6th, 7th and 9th houses by

rasi/graha

> drishtis.

>

> Manifestation of dharmic & karmic connections?

>

> I do not know if he's found a Guru too.

>

> Regards,

> Lakshmi

>

> sohamsa@ <sohamsa%

40> .com, " Karu "

> <heen@> wrote:

> >

> > Hare Rama Krshna

> >

> > Dear Lakshmi,

> >

> > I finished a real bad time when Saturn transit in Gemini, in

my

> Lagna. I have Rahu, Moon, Guru, Venus in trine to Gemini in

navamsa

> and I suffered a lot. Gemini is A5 and I forget all Manthra and

> cleared the path for Yama Raj. When the Saturn in exact degrees of

> Lagna, I lost all control over Dhi.

> >

> > But, due to blessings of Guru, I consider this was one of the

best

> time in my life. It removed fear of death, and gave me many in

> retun. If I not face such terible time, I still consider God as

> enemies, and still my heart beat is depending on out siders.

> >

> > So Lakshmi, Why we are waiting for only adverse effects when

Saturn

> transit over 8th or any bad places ? For spiritual progress, this

is

> a disguise blessing.

> >

> > Partha has Sun and Moon in trine. Can you remember Partha

> dissapointed and left us ? How do you explain this ? Is this has

some

> thing to do with Mana and self ? Again this is only a one angle of

> looking. We may learn in more in future. Yes, Murthi also has lot

to

> do.

> > Please pass my regards to Sasank and Ramesh. My best wishes and

> congradulation for his win.

> >

> > Here is the chart of X PM.

> >

> > Dudley Senanayake

> > June 19, 1911

> > Time: 12:15:51 pm

> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > Place: 79 E 51' 00 " , 6 N 56' 00 "

> >

> > Thanks

> > Karu

> >

> > -

> > b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40>

..com

> > Tuesday, November 07, 2006 1:06 AM

> > Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-Respected

> Sir Dakshinamoorthy ji

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Dear Karu,

> >

> > Namaste. No, I can't see the attachment, because

do

> not

> > store attachments. Could you please give the birth data, so that

> I

> > can generate the chart and appreciate your input better?

> >

> > Thanks for the input from Devakeralam. I appreciate the point

> you've

> > made. In navamsa, I do not have any planets in trines or in 7th

> to Tr

> > Saturn in cancer. Only Navamsa ascendant is in trines to Tr

> saturn,

> > so does that make any difference?

> >

> > But in Partha's case, there are planets in trines & 7th from

Tr

> > Saturn, but he said that he did not feel the adverse impct of

> ashtama

> > shani.

> >

> > I think one needs to analyse the transit effect from all the

> > perspectives of murthi, operating dasa, natal & navamsa

> placements

> > and perhaps consider what result is predominantly thrown up by

> these

> > examinations.

> >

> > Sasank (my younger son) sends his loving regards to his

favourite

> > Karu uncle, and he's so happy that Australia won the Champions

> > trophy.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Lakshmi

> >

> > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%

40> .com, " Karu "

> <heen@> wrote:

> > >

> > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA

> > >

> > > Dear Lakshmi,

> > > Please see the attached chart.

> > >

> > > In 1952, When Saturn is in Lagna, as well as 8th from the

Moon,

> he

> > was passing Mercury Mahadasa and Saturn Antar dasa. He became

the

> > prime minister of Sri Lanka. His father was the first prime

> minister

> > of Sri Lanka.

> > >

> > > Strong Mercury gave him the Rajayoga, but has Papa (or kroora)

> > Argala from 12th lord Sun (Father). In the natal chart, Saturn

> and

> > Rahu obstruct argala of Sun, and promised to activate the Raja

> yoga

> > when the time comes. As soon as Saturn antar dasa came, his

> father

> > died and he became the PM.

> > >

> > > See the Navamsa. Jupiter is in Capricorn, trine to Virgo.

So

Tr

> > Saturn damage father's life as Jupiter is the lord of the 8th

> from

> > 9th house of Rasi. This proves, all negative effects come from

> the

> > bhavas related to planets in trine or 7th from the Sign of Tr

> Saturn

> > in Navamsa.

> > >

> > > Did you find in your Navamsa chart any planets in Trine

or 7th

> to

> > Cancer ?

> > >

> > > Perhaps there can be many reasons, but I use this simple

rule

> from

> > Devakaralam.

> > >

> > > Best Wishes

> > > Karu

> > >

> > > -

> > > b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%

40> .com

> > > Thursday, November 02, 2006 8:51 PM

> > > Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-

Respected

> > Sir Dakshinamoorthy ji

> > >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > >

> > > Namaste Ramdas Raoji,

> > >

> > > Thanks for your learned explanation and bracing words. As

you

> > said,

> > > Mother's grace can indeed ward off all evils, as do blessings

> > from

> > > good people like you.

> > >

> > > I do agree that a strong Jupiter in lagna gives me a lot

of

> > immunity.

> > > I was also wondering if Saturn's association with the 8th

> > house/lord

> > > in the natal chart has something to do with this, because

> Partha

> > had

> > > also not experienced any malefic results of ashtama shani

and

> he

> > has

> > > Saturn in 8th house (cancer) in his natal chart. Ofcourse

he

> also

> > had

> > > Rahu dasa running and Rahu aspects 9th house, as does his

> > dispositor,

> > > Venus.

> > >

> > > This is just a thought...

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Lakshmi

> > >

> > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%

40> .com,

> Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

> > > > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

> > > > Dear Lakshmi Ji,

> > > > In your chart, Lagna lord Guru is in Lagna which is

his

Moola

> > > Trikona Sthana and has got highest Shadbala strength.This

> > indicates

> > > God's Blessings are with you ,so no planetary afflictions

> during

> > > their transit will affect your life !!Eventhough Guru is

in

the

> > > beginning of the Rashi, he is in Devalokamsha.Also he has

> highest

> > > Vimshopaka Bala.So either Sadesathi or Kantaka Shani or

Ashtama

> > Shani

> > > will not affect you.Just see, you are born on Thursday,

your

> > Janma

> > > Nakshatra is Poorvashada ruled by Shukra who in Navamsha

is

> > placed in

> > > Kumbhamsha which is near to Ucchamsha.So this indicates

Mother

> > Lalita

> > > Tripura Sundari's Blessings are with you.So how the other

> Grahas

> > in

> > > their adverse positions will harm you ??

> > > > I think you got the reply now.

> > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

> > > > Ramadas Rao.

> > > >

> > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh@>

> > > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%

40> .com

> > > > Tuesday, 31 October, 2006 10:03:34 AM

> > > > Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-

> Respected

> > Sir

> > > Dakshinamoorthy ji

> > > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > >

> > > > Namaste friends,

> > > >

> > > > I have one query regarding ashtama shani. Saturn has

been

> > > transiting

> > > > my 8th house (both from lagna and from moon) for the

past

two

> > and

> > > odd

> > > > years, yet i have not faced any difficulty

> > > whatsoever.. .healthwise,

> > > > wealthwise or happinesswise! ! Except for a mild bout

of

> > jaundice

> > > for

> > > > my younger son, I have not experienced any difficulty,

by

> god's

> > > > grace. On the contrary, infact, this period has been

one of

> the

> > > > healthiest/happiest /most prosperous periods in my

life,

> > despite

> > > the

> > > > fact that i quit my job in may 2004!!

> > > >

> > > > I have observed from some of my friends' charts that

ashtama

> > shani

> > > > has indeed been tough for them, so I am really puzzled

and

> > curious

> > > > (also very thankful)as to how god has spared me.

> > > >

> > > > I request my friends to help me unravel this puzzle.

This

> would

> > > also

> > > > help me to understand what factors can counteract ashtama

> > shani,

> > > > though I agree that analysis of one's own chart may

not be

> the

> > best

> > > > way to do that!!

> > > >

> > > > My birth data is

> > > >

> > > > September 1, 1960

> > > > Time: 3:24:22 pm

> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > Place: Hyderabad, AP (78 E 30', 17 N 20')

> > > >

> > > > If some one else has similar experience of a beneficial

> ashtama

> > > shani

> > > > period(!!), i request them to share their birth data,

so

that

> > it

> > > > would help me in bettering my understanding.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Lakshmi

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa@ .com, Kaartik Gor <astro_gor@

...>

> > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Om Sai Ram

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Sir,

> > > > >

> > > > > You are right in 8'th lord in 10'th ...In my Dasamsa

D10

my

> > 8'th

> > > > lord (Saturn) is in 10'th (deblitated in Mesh).

> > > > >

> > > > > Jyotish gives me lot of satisfaction. ...any particular

> > reason ??

> > > > >

> > > > > ALso I am undergoing Saturn Mahadasha and my Mercury

> > antardasa is

> > > > next which is also in 10'th house of D10....what are

the

> > effects of

> > > > it being with a weak saturn ??

> > > > >

> > > > > I think a weak saturn actually is good ?? am I

right ??

> > > > >

> > > > > Any remedies for a better career...when will I

get my

> > promotion.

> > > > >

> > > > > Birth Data

> > > > >

> > > > > 04/05/1976

> > > > >

> > > > > 05:38:00 am

> > > > >

> > > > > Ahmedabad, Gujarat

> > > > >

> > > > > India

> > > > >

> > > > > Lagna is Aries and Moon Sign is Gemini.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanking you in advance.

> > > > >

> > > > > Kaartik Gor

> > > > >

> > > > > dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer@ ...>

wrote:

> > > > > Dear Member:

> > > > >

> > > > > As I have repeatedly said in my earlier posts,

8th lord in

> > the

> > > 10th

> > > > > house is definitely not a good indicator for professional

> > > > > satisfaction. In ashtakavarga chart (SAV), the

no. of

> bindus

> > in

> > > the

> > > > > 12th house is significantly more than the no.

of bindus in

> > either

> > > > > 10th house (service), 11th house (business) or

even

> > lagna....so,

> > > on

> > > > a

> > > > > mundane level, your professional aspects look

quite tough!

> > > However,

> > > > > in your case, the 6th lord Mars is also in the

10th. The

> > > > combination

> > > > > of 6th and 8th house lords may give mild vipareetha

raaja

> > yoga

> > > (by

> > > > > traditional definitions, this is not vipareeta

raja yoga;

> by

> > > > > tradition, the bad house lord should be in another

bad

> > > house...but

> > > > in

> > > > > practice, the combination of two bad lords does

produce

> some

> > > > > vipareeta raaja yoga effects in many real cases.

Astro

> > > researchers

> > > > > of this forum may check whether this " hypothesis "

works!).

> > Mars

> > > in

> > > > > your case, is also the lagna lord and it is in

the house

of

> > its

> > > > yoga

> > > > > kaaraka Moreover, your 10th lord is in the 11th

house

which

> > > > > indicates gains from one's profession. So, in

my opinion,

> you

> > may

> > > > be

> > > > > able to get a sudden life in your profession especially

> after

> > > your

> > > > > 41st year. Kindly try to consolidate yourself

in any

> position

> > not

> > > > > only now, but even in the future. Take only considered

> steps

> > in

> > > > > profession.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regarding spirituality, you will gain a lot by

worship of

> > Lord

> > > > > Krishna signigying Moon....this will give you

rare

> spiritual

> > > > > awakenings. Reading of Bhagavat Gita and Naaraayaneeyam

> will

> > be

> > > > > auspicious to you. (Moon conjunct Rahu and Jupiter...Moon

> is

> > the

> > > > 9th

> > > > > house lord; Jupiter is the 5th house lord). Similarly,

> > worship of

> > > > > Lord Lakshmi Narasimha or Goddess Pratiyangira

will help

> you

> > to

> > > > > awaken your kundalini shakti. (do either one...kindly

do

> not

> > do

> > > > both

> > > > > at the same time if you are doing serious sadhanaas...

I

> have

> > a

> > > > strong

> > > > > reason to say this though I would not like to

divulge it

to

> > you

> > > > now).

> > > > >

> > > > > Your spiritual life seems very promising. For

success in

> > > > > professional aspects, satisfy Sun by chanting

'Shri Raama

> > > > > Pattaabhisheka sargam " with devotion regularly.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regarding ashtama sani, you will be out of its

grasp from

> > > November

> > > > > 2006. so, nothing to worry about the future due

to ashtama

> > sani.

> > > > The

> > > > > worst is probably over for you!

> > > > >

> > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > >

> > > > > In vedic astrology, " mgoel1973 "

> > <mgoel1973@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Sir,

> > > > > > My DOB is 16/9/72 and time is 12:22 pm.place

of birth

> > roorkee.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sir,

> > > > > > Am I going under the period of ashtama shani.How

this

> will

> > > affect

> > > > > me.I

> > > > > > am not doing well in the job area.What remedies

should I

> do

> > for

> > > > > better

> > > > > > job prospects and all round satisfaction,

Sir,I am also

> > > spritually

> > > > > > inclined.What has the fate in store for me

?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > >

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November 11, 2006

Dear Shri. Rameshji, Shri Ramdas Rao, and All,

Shri. Rameshji,Thank you for giving me positive input on job front.

I must profusely also thank Shri. Ramadas Rao for his help and

guidance.

With Best Regards

Yamini

sohamsa , Ramesh.F.Gangaramani wrote:

>

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

> Dear Yamini,

> Here is my attempt;

> 1. You are going through ashtama Shani from Lagna and Moon, plus

Rahu

> antar in Jupiter MD usually is not very smooth, as Jupiter does

not like

> Rahu.

> 2. Anubhava may be related to 6H,i.e. enmity, competition, health

etc.

> 3. But then job front Jupiter is well placed from Sun in D10 and

will give

> good job availability. Rahu being in trines to Moon gives

anxieties.

> Placement of Rahu from Moon does not indicate strong need or drive

to find

> a job. Rahu is 11L placed in 2H, so it should continue to bring

you

> income. Current PD of Saturn, placed in 5H, should give you new

jobs.

> 4. I would time new job around X-mas time, if you loose this one.

> 5. For Rahu in 9H, Sanjayji recommends praying to Guru.

> 6. Just for information Moon is under curse from Rahu and Mars.

Difficult

> to remove since Mars is exalted and Rahu is always retro. Also

Rahu is AK.

> But the moola dasa indicates that the period has passed. Moon

being in

> lagna, shows that intention was good and hence end result should

be good!

> I hope to learn from the comments of gurus and co-students.

> Best regards

> Ramesh

yamini_krishnamoorti

> Sent by: sohamsa

> 11/08/2006 04:44 AM

> Please respond to

> sohamsa

>

> To

> sohamsa

> cc

>

> Subject

> Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-Respected Sir

Dakshinamoorthy

> ji

Dear All,

>

> I will be losing my job by month end for the 2nd time in few

> months. My birth date is 23-3-1960 3.50 AM Gulbarga. Sravana star

> and I am also going through Ashtama shani.I am currently facing

> multiple problems at home and in career. Kindly help me also.

>

> With Best Regards

> Yamini

>

> sohamsa , " Michael Travass "

> <michael.travass@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ramadas Rao,

> >

> > My Moon is located in Libra, AL in Sagittarius and Lagna is

> Kumbha. During

> > the period of Kantaka shani when Saturn was in Cancer I was

> promoted, got a

> > huge raise and relocated to a new place.

> >

> > I also made a deal to purchase a house in the first week of Oct

> this year.

> > Just before shani transited to Leo the owner withdrew from the

> deal and I

> > couldn't purchase the house. I have difficulties with my present

> owner about

> > my rent contract (which has expired).

> >

> > After shani entered Leo my difficulties at work has increased

four

> fold

> > (note that I did not have much problems in Kantaka shani period)

> and my

> > relationship with my girl friend has finally ended.

> >

> > Shani in Leo is not an adverse transit for my chart but has seem

> to have

> > done lot of damage. Is it something to do with delayed results.

I

> mean to

> > say are shani results delayed by 4 to 6 months.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Mike

> >

> > sohamsa [sohamsa ]

On

> Behalf Of

> > Ramadas Rao

> > Tuesday, November 07, 2006 4:58 PM

> > sohamsa

> > Re: Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-

> Respected Sir

> > Dakshinamoorthy ji

> >

> > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

> > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

> > Dear Lakshmi Ji and other members of this list,

> > It is very interesting to read everybody's experiences during

the

> difficult

> > transits of Shani.

> > Now let me give some inputs of Shani's transit over 8th house

from

> Lagna and

> > Chandra in my life for the 1st time.Shani entered Simha Rashi on

> 7/9/1977

> > and entered Kanya Rashi on 27/7/1980.During the beginning of

> Shani's transit

> > I was working in a Central -State government company and my

salary

> was just

> > revised just befor Shani entered Simha Rashi.In 1978,between

April

> to May,

> > there was a strike in our company,so there was no salary for one

> month but

> > by May end, the strike ended with success and we got the salary

> for the

> > strike period and also got promoted to a higher category from

July

> > 1978.During the same period, my engagement was fixed and I got

> married on

> > 17th of Nov.1978.We both of us went to different places during

> Jan.1979

> > including Tirupaty and Mantralaya Shri Raghavendra Swami Ji

> Brindavan.On

> > Oct.1979, I was blessed with a male child also.Shani left Simha

> rashi on

> > 27/7/1980.So during this whole trasnit of Shani on 8th house

from

> Lagna and

> > Chandra was a Blessed one for me.During the above said

period,Guru

> in

> > transit was in Mithuna ( 6th house ), 7th house in 1978 and then

> in 1979

> > -1980 in Simha Rashi in 8th house.So this clearly indicates

> Shani's transit

> > in 8th house from Lagna and Chandra Rashi has given beneficial

> results.For

> > Makara Lagna, Shani is Lagna and 2nd house lord and is a benefic

> for this

> > Lagna.Another important thing I learnt from this transit is

> eventhough the

> > transit of Shani over 8th house is bad ,if his sign lord ie.,

> Surya is

> > placed in Meena Rashi in 3rd from both Lagna and Chandra and is

in

> > Pushkaramsha.This Surya's Pushkaramsha has lifted me and blessed

> with

> > auspicious results during the Shani's transit over Simha

> Rashi.During the

> > above transit, Guru-Shani, Guru-Budha and Guru-Ketu was running

> using 360

> > Savana days per year.Now Shani again came to Simha rashi which

is

> 8th from

> > Lagna and Chandra.I pray God that this transit also proves

> beneficial to me

> > in all the ways.

> > I am sharing this experience to all the members of the list for

> further

> > discussion.

> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

> > Ramadas Rao.

> >

> > b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Dear Karu,

> >

> > Namaste.

> >

> > It was very interesting to read about your experiences during

> Saturn

> > transit. I also agree that Saturn is one planet who teaches us

> hard

> > lessons and he's always kind to those who are willing to learn.

> >

> > Regarding Partha, he's like a child...walking out in a huff when

> he's

> > hurt or angry, like we all are at some or other juncture in

life.

> But

> > I must say that his affection for SJC and Guruji never wavered,

> and I

> > very much consider him as one of us.

> >

> > Thanks for bringing it to my notice because curiously enough

this

> > ashtama shani seems to have favourably impacted on the chara

karaka

> > (twa)s of the planets in trines & aspected by Tr Saturn in

> > navamsa...he's gained a lovely wife and a better job (moon as

DK),

> > he's soon going to be a proud father (Mercury-PK), he's found

> > nurturing/protection from an equally lovely mother-like person

> > (Saturn as MK) and perhaps he's coming into his own or evolving

as

> a

> > person too(Sun as AK).

> >

> > It could also have happened because Tr Jupiter was

simultaneously

> > aspecting his natal 3rd, 5th, 6th, 7th and 9th houses by

> rasi/graha

> > drishtis.

> >

> > Manifestation of dharmic & karmic connections?

> >

> > I do not know if he's found a Guru too.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Lakshmi

> >

> > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%

> 40> .com, " Karu "

> > <heen@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hare Rama Krshna

> > >

> > > Dear Lakshmi,

> > >

> > > I finished a real bad time when Saturn transit in Gemini, in

my

> > Lagna. I have Rahu, Moon, Guru, Venus in trine to Gemini in

> navamsa

> > and I suffered a lot. Gemini is A5 and I forget all Manthra and

> > cleared the path for Yama Raj. When the Saturn in exact degrees

of

> > Lagna, I lost all control over Dhi.

> > >

> > > But, due to blessings of Guru, I consider this was one of the

> best

> > time in my life. It removed fear of death, and gave me many in

> > retun. If I not face such terible time, I still consider God as

> > enemies, and still my heart beat is depending on out siders.

> > >

> > > So Lakshmi, Why we are waiting for only adverse effects when

> Saturn

> > transit over 8th or any bad places ? For spiritual progress,

this

> is

> > a disguise blessing.

> > >

> > > Partha has Sun and Moon in trine. Can you remember Partha

> > dissapointed and left us ? How do you explain this ? Is this has

> some

> > thing to do with Mana and self ? Again this is only a one angle

of

> > looking. We may learn in more in future. Yes, Murthi also has

lot

> to

> > do.

> > > Please pass my regards to Sasank and Ramesh. My best wishes

and

> > congradulation for his win.

> > >

> > > Here is the chart of X PM.

> > >

> > > Dudley Senanayake

> > > June 19, 1911

> > > Time: 12:15:51 pm

> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > Place: 79 E 51' 00 " , 6 N 56' 00 "

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Karu

> > >

> > > -

> > > b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%

40> .com

> > > Tuesday, November 07, 2006 1:06 AM

> > > Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-

Respected

> > Sir Dakshinamoorthy ji

> > >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > >

> > > Dear Karu,

> > >

> > > Namaste. No, I can't see the attachment, because

do

> > not

> > > store attachments. Could you please give the birth data, so

that

> > I

> > > can generate the chart and appreciate your input better?

> > >

> > > Thanks for the input from Devakeralam. I appreciate the point

> > you've

> > > made. In navamsa, I do not have any planets in trines or in

7th

> > to Tr

> > > Saturn in cancer. Only Navamsa ascendant is in trines to Tr

> > saturn,

> > > so does that make any difference?

> > >

> > > But in Partha's case, there are planets in trines & 7th from

Tr

> > > Saturn, but he said that he did not feel the adverse impct of

> > ashtama

> > > shani.

> > >

> > > I think one needs to analyse the transit effect from all the

> > > perspectives of murthi, operating dasa, natal & navamsa

> > placements

> > > and perhaps consider what result is predominantly thrown up by

> > these

> > > examinations.

> > >

> > > Sasank (my younger son) sends his loving regards to his

> favourite

> > > Karu uncle, and he's so happy that Australia won the Champions

> > > trophy.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Lakshmi

> > >

> > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%

> 40> .com, " Karu "

> > <heen@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lakshmi,

> > > > Please see the attached chart.

> > > >

> > > > In 1952, When Saturn is in Lagna, as well as 8th from the

> Moon,

> > he

> > > was passing Mercury Mahadasa and Saturn Antar dasa. He became

> the

> > > prime minister of Sri Lanka. His father was the first prime

> > minister

> > > of Sri Lanka.

> > > >

> > > > Strong Mercury gave him the Rajayoga, but has Papa (or

kroora)

> > > Argala from 12th lord Sun (Father). In the natal chart, Saturn

> > and

> > > Rahu obstruct argala of Sun, and promised to activate the Raja

> > yoga

> > > when the time comes. As soon as Saturn antar dasa came, his

> > father

> > > died and he became the PM.

> > > >

> > > > See the Navamsa. Jupiter is in Capricorn, trine to Virgo. So

> Tr

> > > Saturn damage father's life as Jupiter is the lord of the 8th

> > from

> > > 9th house of Rasi. This proves, all negative effects come from

> > the

> > > bhavas related to planets in trine or 7th from the Sign of Tr

> > Saturn

> > > in Navamsa.

> > > >

> > > > Did you find in your Navamsa chart any planets in Trine or

7th

> > to

> > > Cancer ?

> > > >

> > > > Perhaps there can be many reasons, but I use this simple

rule

> > from

> > > Devakaralam.

> > > >

> > > > Best Wishes

> > > > Karu

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh

> > > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%

> 40> .com

> > > > Thursday, November 02, 2006 8:51 PM

> > > > Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-

> Respected

> > > Sir Dakshinamoorthy ji

> > > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Ramdas Raoji,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for your learned explanation and bracing words. As

you

> > > said,

> > > > Mother's grace can indeed ward off all evils, as do

blessings

> > > from

> > > > good people like you.

> > > >

> > > > I do agree that a strong Jupiter in lagna gives me a lot of

> > > immunity.

> > > > I was also wondering if Saturn's association with the 8th

> > > house/lord

> > > > in the natal chart has something to do with this, because

> > Partha

> > > had

> > > > also not experienced any malefic results of ashtama shani

and

> > he

> > > has

> > > > Saturn in 8th house (cancer) in his natal chart. Ofcourse he

> > also

> > > had

> > > > Rahu dasa running and Rahu aspects 9th house, as does his

> > > dispositor,

> > > > Venus.

> > > >

> > > > This is just a thought...

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Lakshmi

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%

> 40> .com,

> > Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

> > > > > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

> > > > > Dear Lakshmi Ji,

> > > > > In your chart, Lagna lord Guru is in Lagna which is his

> Moola

> > > > Trikona Sthana and has got highest Shadbala strength.This

> > > indicates

> > > > God's Blessings are with you ,so no planetary afflictions

> > during

> > > > their transit will affect your life !!Eventhough Guru is in

> the

> > > > beginning of the Rashi, he is in Devalokamsha.Also he has

> > highest

> > > > Vimshopaka Bala.So either Sadesathi or Kantaka Shani or

> Ashtama

> > > Shani

> > > > will not affect you.Just see, you are born on Thursday, your

> > > Janma

> > > > Nakshatra is Poorvashada ruled by Shukra who in Navamsha is

> > > placed in

> > > > Kumbhamsha which is near to Ucchamsha.So this indicates

Mother

> > > Lalita

> > > > Tripura Sundari's Blessings are with you.So how the other

> > Grahas

> > > in

> > > > their adverse positions will harm you ??

> > > > > I think you got the reply now.

> > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

> > > > > Ramadas Rao.

> > > > >

> > > > > b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh@>

> > > > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%

> 40> .com

> > > > > Tuesday, 31 October, 2006 10:03:34 AM

> > > > > Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-

> > Respected

> > > Sir

> > > > Dakshinamoorthy ji

> > > > >

> > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste friends,

> > > > >

> > > > > I have one query regarding ashtama shani. Saturn has been

> > > > transiting

> > > > > my 8th house (both from lagna and from moon) for the past

> two

> > > and

> > > > odd

> > > > > years, yet i have not faced any difficulty

> > > > whatsoever.. .healthwise,

> > > > > wealthwise or happinesswise! ! Except for a mild bout of

> > > jaundice

> > > > for

> > > > > my younger son, I have not experienced any difficulty, by

> > god's

> > > > > grace. On the contrary, infact, this period has been one

of

> > the

> > > > > healthiest/happiest /most prosperous periods in my life,

> > > despite

> > > > the

> > > > > fact that i quit my job in may 2004!!

> > > > >

> > > > > I have observed from some of my friends' charts that

ashtama

> > > shani

> > > > > has indeed been tough for them, so I am really puzzled and

> > > curious

> > > > > (also very thankful)as to how god has spared me.

> > > > >

> > > > > I request my friends to help me unravel this puzzle. This

> > would

> > > > also

> > > > > help me to understand what factors can counteract ashtama

> > > shani,

> > > > > though I agree that analysis of one's own chart may not be

> > the

> > > best

> > > > > way to do that!!

> > > > >

> > > > > My birth data is

> > > > >

> > > > > September 1, 1960

> > > > > Time: 3:24:22 pm

> > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > > Place: Hyderabad, AP (78 E 30', 17 N 20')

> > > > >

> > > > > If some one else has similar experience of a beneficial

> > ashtama

> > > > shani

> > > > > period(!!), i request them to share their birth data, so

> that

> > > it

> > > > > would help me in bettering my understanding.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Lakshmi

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Kaartik Gor

<astro_gor@ ..>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Om Sai Ram

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Sir,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You are right in 8'th lord in 10'th ...In my Dasamsa D10

> my

> > > 8'th

> > > > > lord (Saturn) is in 10'th (deblitated in Mesh).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Jyotish gives me lot of satisfaction. ...any particular

> > > reason ??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ALso I am undergoing Saturn Mahadasha and my Mercury

> > > antardasa is

> > > > > next which is also in 10'th house of D10....what are the

> > > effects of

> > > > > it being with a weak saturn ??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I think a weak saturn actually is good ?? am I right ??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Any remedies for a better career...when will I get my

> > > promotion.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Birth Data

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 04/05/1976

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 05:38:00 am

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ahmedabad, Gujarat

> > > > > >

> > > > > > India

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lagna is Aries and Moon Sign is Gemini.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanking you in advance.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Kaartik Gor

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Member:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As I have repeatedly said in my earlier posts, 8th lord

in

> > > the

> > > > 10th

> > > > > > house is definitely not a good indicator for

professional

> > > > > > satisfaction. In ashtakavarga chart (SAV), the no. of

> > bindus

> > > in

> > > > the

> > > > > > 12th house is significantly more than the no. of bindus

in

> > > either

> > > > > > 10th house (service), 11th house (business) or even

> > > lagna....so,

> > > > on

> > > > > a

> > > > > > mundane level, your professional aspects look quite

tough!

> > > > However,

> > > > > > in your case, the 6th lord Mars is also in the 10th. The

> > > > > combination

> > > > > > of 6th and 8th house lords may give mild vipareetha

raaja

> > > yoga

> > > > (by

> > > > > > traditional definitions, this is not vipareeta raja

yoga;

> > by

> > > > > > tradition, the bad house lord should be in another bad

> > > > house...but

> > > > > in

> > > > > > practice, the combination of two bad lords does produce

> > some

> > > > > > vipareeta raaja yoga effects in many real cases. Astro

> > > > researchers

> > > > > > of this forum may check whether this " hypothesis "

works!).

> > > Mars

> > > > in

> > > > > > your case, is also the lagna lord and it is in the house

> of

> > > its

> > > > > yoga

> > > > > > kaaraka Moreover, your 10th lord is in the 11th house

> which

> > > > > > indicates gains from one's profession. So, in my

opinion,

> > you

> > > may

> > > > > be

> > > > > > able to get a sudden life in your profession especially

> > after

> > > > your

> > > > > > 41st year. Kindly try to consolidate yourself in any

> > position

> > > not

> > > > > > only now, but even in the future. Take only considered

> > steps

> > > in

> > > > > > profession.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regarding spirituality, you will gain a lot by worship

of

> > > Lord

> > > > > > Krishna signigying Moon....this will give you rare

> > spiritual

> > > > > > awakenings. Reading of Bhagavat Gita and Naaraayaneeyam

> > will

> > > be

> > > > > > auspicious to you. (Moon conjunct Rahu and

Jupiter...Moon

> > is

> > > the

> > > > > 9th

> > > > > > house lord; Jupiter is the 5th house lord). Similarly,

> > > worship of

> > > > > > Lord Lakshmi Narasimha or Goddess Pratiyangira will help

> > you

> > > to

> > > > > > awaken your kundalini shakti. (do either one...kindly do

> > not

> > > do

> > > > > both

> > > > > > at the same time if you are doing serious sadhanaas... I

> > have

> > > a

> > > > > strong

> > > > > > reason to say this though I would not like to divulge it

> to

> > > you

> > > > > now).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Your spiritual life seems very promising. For success in

> > > > > > professional aspects, satisfy Sun by chanting 'Shri

Raama

> > > > > > Pattaabhisheka sargam " with devotion regularly.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regarding ashtama sani, you will be out of its grasp

from

> > > > November

> > > > > > 2006. so, nothing to worry about the future due to

ashtama

> > > sani.

> > > > > The

> > > > > > worst is probably over for you!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In vedic astrology, " mgoel1973 "

> > > <mgoel1973@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected Sir,

> > > > > > > My DOB is 16/9/72 and time is 12:22 pm.place of birth

> > > roorkee.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sir,

> > > > > > > Am I going under the period of ashtama shani.How this

> > will

> > > > affect

> > > > > > me.I

> > > > > > > am not doing well in the job area.What remedies should

I

> > do

> > > for

> > > > > > better

> > > > > > > job prospects and all round satisfaction, Sir,I am

also

> > > > spritually

> > > > > > > inclined.What has the fate in store for me ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > >

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November 11, 2006

Namaste Prafulla Bhai,

As i Indicated My 8th lord saturn is in Pushkaramsha, but Satrun's

transit from 8th of my moon was a period which threw great danger to

my body & education, almost whole life. but finally i survived

unhert.

It was not a rosy period for me. i think becuase Saturn is in " Vish

Yoga " in 12th, Natal 8th house from Lagna was Hemmed between Transit

Saturn & Transit Rahu and add to that Rahu/Rahu was running which is

placed in my 8th house in Rashi chart.

regards,

Utpal Pathak

sohamsa , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear Utpal ji, Lakshmi ji and Ramdas Rao ji,

>

> Vwry interesting. My 8th lord Jupiter (simha lagna - guru in 12th

house in rashi as well) is also in Pushkaramsha (in karaka in D9

and most of D charts) and incidently, sade sati did very good for

me. Now I am going through ashtama Shani..so I will be observing now

as to how does it work in this transit. (March 8, 1967; 17.40 IST,

Jodhpur-India 73E04 / 26N17).

>

> Yes, shani's tranit over natal rahu (in 9th house) was painful /

unfruitful period.

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> Remember, if two men agree on everything? Only one is doing the

thinking!

> ************************************************

>

> >

> > vedic_pathak

> > Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:39:58 -0000

> > sohamsa

> > Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-Respected

Sir

> > Dakshinamoorthy ji

> >

> > ||Jay Gurudev||

> >

> > Lakshmi bahen, I forgot to add that my Saturn is obviously in

> > Pushkar Navamansha. actaully a " Visha Yoag " in 12th having both

the

> > opposite palnets within one degree, Vargottama & in Pushkar

> > Navamansha. probably Vishyoga got strength of vargottam &

> > pushkaramsa. Amruta is spoied by Visha. terrible!! i don't want

to

> > think more...

> >

> > My 8th lord saturn is in Pushkaramasha. during transit of Saturn

> > from 8th of my Natal moon & saturn, I came under a terrible

threat.

> > Doctor told my parents that if we would have been delayed by one

> > day, they would have had no option then to cut my left Lag from

the

> > region of Knee. BUT & it's a big BUT that it was not needed & i

was

> > saved by lord Shiva who sits in my 12th consuming all the wish by

> > himself.

> >

> > warm regards,

> >

> > Utpal Pathak

> >

> > sohamsa , " b_lakshmi_ramesh "

> > <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:

> >>

> >> Om Gurave Namah

> >>

> >> Namaste Ramdas Raoji,

> >>

> >> Raghu Nemani's moon is also in pushkaramsa...and he did have a

> >> successful period, though not without some bad & sad

> > events...which

> >> are perhaps attributable to Saturn's transit over natal Rahu?

> >>

> >> Regards,

> >> Lakshmi

> >>

> >> sohamsa , " b_lakshmi_ramesh "

> >> <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:

> >>>

> >>> Om Gurave Namah

> >>>

> >>> Namaste Ramdas Raoji,

> >>>

> >>> Yes, Partha's moon, his 8th lord, is also in pushkara navamsa

as

> >> well

> >>> as in pushkara bhaga. This information is given by Partha

> > himself.

> >>>

> >>> So, your point about 8th lord's strength turning ashtama shani

> > into

> >> a

> >>> beneficial experience is already proved in 3 cases. Perhaps

> > other

> >>> friends would share their experiences & feelings. The following

> > is

> >>> the table given by Partha about pushkara navamsa.

> >>>

> >>> Mesha sign

> >>> Thul navamsa(7th)

> >>> Dhanu navamsa(9th)

> >>>

> >>> Vrishabha sign

> >>> Vrishabh navamsa(5rd)

> >>> Meen navamsa(3rd)

> >>>

> >>> Mithun sign

> >>> Vrishabh navamsa(8th )

> >>> Meen navamsa(6th)

> >>>

> >>> Karka sign

> >>> Kanya navamsa(3rd)

> >>> Karka navamsa(1st)

> >>>

> >>> Simha sign

> >>> Thul navamsa(7th)

> >>> Dhanu navamsa(9th)

> >>>

> >>> Kanya sign

> >>> Vrishabh navamsa(5th)

> >>> Meen navamsa(3rd)

> >>>

> >>> Thul sign

> >>> Vrishabh navamsa(8th)

> >>> Meen navamsa(6th)

> >>>

> >>> Vrischik sign

> >>> Kanya navamsa(3rd)

> >>> Karka navamsa(1st)

> >>>

> >>> Dhanu sign

> >>> Thul navamsa(7th)

> >>> Dhanu navamsa(9th)

> >>>

> >>> Makar sign

> >>> Vrishabh navamsa(5th)

> >>> Meen navamsa(3rd)

> >>>

> >>> Kumbh sign

> >>> Vrishabh navamsa(8th)

> >>> Meen navamsa(6th)

> >>>

> >>> Meen sign

> >>> Kanya navamsa(3rd)

> >>> Karka navamsa(1st)

> >>>

> >>> Regards,

> >>> Lakshmi

> >>>

> >>> sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao@>

wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>> OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

> >>>> OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

> >>>> Dear Lakshmi Ji,

> >>>> Thanks for your views.Please check Partha's chart and I hope

> >> you

> >>> will get the answer.

> >>>> With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

> >>>> Ramadas Rao.

> >>>>

> >>>> b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:

> >>>> Om Gurave Namah

> >>>>

> >>>> Namaste Ramadas Raoji,

> >>>>

> >>>> Thanks for sharing your ashtama shani experiences with us.

> > Your

> >>>> Saturn is not only lagna/2nd lord and shubhapati, but is also

> >>> posited

> >>>> in the 9th house...indicating your great spirituality and

> > dharmic

> >>>> nature. For such a person, it's no wonder that ashtama shani

> >> turned

> >>>> out to be beneficial. So, my conjecture about ashtama shani

> > (in

> >>>> tandem with Tr Jupiter)triggering karmic life-events is not

> >>> incorrect.

> >>>>

> >>>> Another point you've made about the lord of ashtama bhava

> > being

> >> in

> >>>> Pushkaramsa and that having made the ashtama shani is also

> > very

> >>>> interesting and thought provoking. incidentally, my 8th lord,

> >> moon

> >>> is

> >>>> also in pushkaramsa. Is Partha's moon also in pushkaramsa?

> > I'll

> >>> have

> >>>> to check!!

> >>>>

> >>>> regards,

> >>>> Lakshmi

> >>>>

> >>>> sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao@>

> > wrote:

> >>>>>

> >>>>> OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

> >>>>> OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

> >>>>> Dear Lakshmi Ji and other members of this list,

> >>>>> It is very interesting to read everybody's experiences

> > during

> >> the

> >>>> difficult transits of Shani.

> >>>>> Now let me give some inputs of Shani's transit over 8th

> > house

> >>>> from Lagna and Chandra in my life for the 1st time.Shani

> > entered

> >>>> Simha Rashi on 7/9/1977 and entered Kanya Rashi on

> >> 27/7/1980.During

> >>>> the beginning of Shani's transit I was working in a Central -

> >> State

> >>>> government company and my salary was just revised just befor

> >> Shani

> >>>> entered Simha Rashi.In 1978,between April to May, there was a

> >>> strike

> >>>> in our company,so there was no salary for one month but by May

> >> end,

> >>>> the strike ended with success and we got the salary for the

> >> strike

> >>>> period and also got promoted to a higher category from July

> >>>> 1978.During the same period, my engagement was fixed and I got

> >>>> married on 17th of Nov.1978.We both of us went to different

> >> places

> >>>> during Jan.1979 including Tirupaty and Mantralaya Shri

> >> Raghavendra

> >>>> Swami Ji Brindavan.On Oct.1979, I was blessed with a male

> > child

> >>>> also.Shani left Simha rashi on 27/7/1980.So during this whole

> >>> trasnit

> >>>> of Shani on 8th house from Lagna and Chandra was a Blessed one

> >>>>> for me.During the above said period,Guru in transit was in

> >>> Mithuna

> >>>> ( 6th house ), 7th house in 1978 and then in 1979 -1980 in

> > Simha

> >>>> Rashi in 8th house.So this clearly indicates Shani's transit

> > in

> >> 8th

> >>>> house from Lagna and Chandra Rashi has given beneficial

> >> results.For

> >>>> Makara Lagna, Shani is Lagna and 2nd house lord and is a

> > benefic

> >>> for

> >>>> this Lagna.Another important thing I learnt from this transit

> > is

> >>>> eventhough the transit of Shani over 8th house is bad ,if his

> >> sign

> >>>> lord ie., Surya is placed in Meena Rashi in 3rd from both

> > Lagna

> >> and

> >>>> Chandra and is in Pushkaramsha.This Surya's Pushkaramsha has

> >> lifted

> >>>> me and blessed with auspicious results during the Shani's

> > transit

> >>>> over Simha Rashi.During the above transit, Guru-Shani, Guru-

> > Budha

> >>> and

> >>>> Guru-Ketu was running using 360 Savana days per year.Now Shani

> >>> again

> >>>> came to Simha rashi which is 8th from Lagna and Chandra.I pray

> >> God

> >>>> that this transit also proves beneficial to me in all the

ways.

> >>>>> I am sharing this experience to all the members of the list

> > for

> >>>> further discussion.

> >>>>> With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

> >>>>> Ramadas Rao.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:

> >>>>> Om Gurave Namah

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Dear Karu,

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Namaste.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> It was very interesting to read about your experiences

> > during

> >>>> Saturn

> >>>>> transit. I also agree that Saturn is one planet who teaches

> > us

> >>> hard

> >>>>> lessons and he's always kind to those who are willing to

> > learn.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Regarding Partha, he's like a child...walking out in a huff

> >> when

> >>>> he's

> >>>>> hurt or angry, like we all are at some or other juncture in

> >> life.

> >>>> But

> >>>>> I must say that his affection for SJC and Guruji never

> > wavered,

> >>> and

> >>>> I

> >>>>> very much consider him as one of us.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Thanks for bringing it to my notice because curiously enough

> >> this

> >>>>> ashtama shani seems to have favourably impacted on the chara

> >>> karaka

> >>>>> (twa)s of the planets in trines & aspected by Tr Saturn in

> >>>>> navamsa...he's gained a lovely wife and a better job (moon

> > as

> >>> DK),

> >>>>> he's soon going to be a proud father (Mercury-PK), he's

> > found

> >>>>> nurturing/protection from an equally lovely mother-like

> > person

> >>>>> (Saturn as MK) and perhaps he's coming into his own or

> > evolving

> >>> as

> >>>> a

> >>>>> person too(Sun as AK).

> >>>>>

> >>>>> It could also have happened because Tr Jupiter was

> >> simultaneously

> >>>>> aspecting his natal 3rd, 5th, 6th, 7th and 9th houses by

> >>> rasi/graha

> >>>>> drishtis.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Manifestation of dharmic & karmic connections?

> >>>>>

> >>>>> I do not know if he's found a Guru too.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Regards,

> >>>>> Lakshmi

> >>>>>

> >>>>> sohamsa , " Karu " <heen@> wrote:

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Hare Rama Krshna

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Dear Lakshmi,

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> I finished a real bad time when Saturn transit in Gemini,

> > in

> >> my

> >>>>> Lagna. I have Rahu, Moon, Guru, Venus in trine to Gemini in

> >>> navamsa

> >>>>> and I suffered a lot. Gemini is A5 and I forget all Manthra

> > and

> >>>>> cleared the path for Yama Raj. When the Saturn in exact

> > degrees

> >>> of

> >>>>> Lagna, I lost all control over Dhi.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> But, due to blessings of Guru, I consider this was one of

> > the

> >>>> best

> >>>>> time in my life. It removed fear of death, and gave me many

> > in

> >>>>> retun. If I not face such terible time, I still consider God

> > as

> >>>>> enemies, and still my heart beat is depending on out siders.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> So Lakshmi, Why we are waiting for only adverse effects

> > when

> >>>> Saturn

> >>>>> transit over 8th or any bad places ? For spiritual progress,

> >> this

> >>>> is

> >>>>> a disguise blessing.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Partha has Sun and Moon in trine. Can you remember Partha

> >>>>> dissapointed and left us ? How do you explain this ? Is this

> >> has

> >>>> some

> >>>>> thing to do with Mana and self ? Again this is only a one

> > angle

> >>> of

> >>>>> looking. We may learn in more in future. Yes, Murthi also

> > has

> >> lot

> >>>> to

> >>>>> do.

> >>>>>> Please pass my regards to Sasank and Ramesh. My best

> > wishes

> >> and

> >>>>> congradulation for his win.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Here is the chart of X PM.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Dudley Senanayake

> >>>>>> June 19, 1911

> >>>>>> Time: 12:15:51 pm

> >>>>>> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> >>>>>> Place: 79 E 51' 00 " , 6 N 56' 00 "

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Thanks

> >>>>>> Karu

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> -

> >>>>>> b_lakshmi_ramesh

> >>>>>> sohamsa

> >>>>>> Tuesday, November 07, 2006 1:06 AM

> >>>>>> Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-

> >> Respected

> >>>>> Sir Dakshinamoorthy ji

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Om Gurave Namah

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Dear Karu,

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Namaste. No, I can't see the attachment, because

> > groups

> >>> do

> >>>>> not

> >>>>>> store attachments. Could you please give the birth data,

> > so

> >>> that

> >>>>> I

> >>>>>> can generate the chart and appreciate your input better?

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Thanks for the input from Devakeralam. I appreciate the

> > point

> >>>>> you've

> >>>>>> made. In navamsa, I do not have any planets in trines or

> > in

> >> 7th

> >>>>> to Tr

> >>>>>> Saturn in cancer. Only Navamsa ascendant is in trines to

> > Tr

> >>>>> saturn,

> >>>>>> so does that make any difference?

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> But in Partha's case, there are planets in trines & 7th

> > from

> >> Tr

> >>>>>> Saturn, but he said that he did not feel the adverse impct

> > of

> >>>>> ashtama

> >>>>>> shani.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> I think one needs to analyse the transit effect from all

> > the

> >>>>>> perspectives of murthi, operating dasa, natal & navamsa

> >>>>> placements

> >>>>>> and perhaps consider what result is predominantly thrown

> > up

> >> by

> >>>>> these

> >>>>>> examinations.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Sasank (my younger son) sends his loving regards to his

> >>> favourite

> >>>>>> Karu uncle, and he's so happy that Australia won the

> >> Champions

> >>>>>> trophy.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Regards,

> >>>>>> Lakshmi

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> sohamsa , " Karu " <heen@> wrote:

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> HARE RAMA KRISHNA

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Dear Lakshmi,

> >>>>>>> Please see the attached chart.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> In 1952, When Saturn is in Lagna, as well as 8th from

> > the

> >>> Moon,

> >>>>> he

> >>>>>> was passing Mercury Mahadasa and Saturn Antar dasa. He

> > became

> >>> the

> >>>>>> prime minister of Sri Lanka. His father was the first

> > prime

> >>>>> minister

> >>>>>> of Sri Lanka.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Strong Mercury gave him the Rajayoga, but has Papa (or

> >>> kroora)

> >>>>>> Argala from 12th lord Sun (Father). In the natal chart,

> >> Saturn

> >>>>> and

> >>>>>> Rahu obstruct argala of Sun, and promised to activate the

> >> Raja

> >>>>> yoga

> >>>>>> when the time comes. As soon as Saturn antar dasa came,

> > his

> >>>>> father

> >>>>>> died and he became the PM.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> See the Navamsa. Jupiter is in Capricorn, trine to

> > Virgo.

> >> So

> >>> Tr

> >>>>>> Saturn damage father's life as Jupiter is the lord of the

> > 8th

> >>>>> from

> >>>>>> 9th house of Rasi. This proves, all negative effects come

> >> from

> >>>>> the

> >>>>>> bhavas related to planets in trine or 7th from the Sign of

> > Tr

> >>>>> Saturn

> >>>>>> in Navamsa.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Did you find in your Navamsa chart any planets in Trine

> > or

> >>> 7th

> >>>>> to

> >>>>>> Cancer ?

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Perhaps there can be many reasons, but I use this simple

> >> rule

> >>>>> from

> >>>>>> Devakaralam.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Best Wishes

> >>>>>>> Karu

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> -

> >>>>>>> b_lakshmi_ramesh

> >>>>>>> sohamsa

> >>>>>>> Thursday, November 02, 2006 8:51 PM

> >>>>>>> Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-

> >>> Respected

> >>>>>> Sir Dakshinamoorthy ji

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Om Gurave Namah

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Namaste Ramdas Raoji,

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Thanks for your learned explanation and bracing words.

> > As

> >> you

> >>>>>> said,

> >>>>>>> Mother's grace can indeed ward off all evils, as do

> >> blessings

> >>>>>> from

> >>>>>>> good people like you.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> I do agree that a strong Jupiter in lagna gives me a lot

> > of

> >>>>>> immunity.

> >>>>>>> I was also wondering if Saturn's association with the

> > 8th

> >>>>>> house/lord

> >>>>>>> in the natal chart has something to do with this,

> > because

> >>>>> Partha

> >>>>>> had

> >>>>>>> also not experienced any malefic results of ashtama

> > shani

> >> and

> >>>>> he

> >>>>>> has

> >>>>>>> Saturn in 8th house (cancer) in his natal chart.

> > Ofcourse

> >> he

> >>>>> also

> >>>>>> had

> >>>>>>> Rahu dasa running and Rahu aspects 9th house, as does

> > his

> >>>>>> dispositor,

> >>>>>>> Venus.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> This is just a thought...

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Regards,

> >>>>>>> Lakshmi

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> sohamsa , Ramadas Rao

> > <ramadasrao@>

> >>> wrote:

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

> >>>>>>>> OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

> >>>>>>>> Dear Lakshmi Ji,

> >>>>>>>> In your chart, Lagna lord Guru is in Lagna which is

> > his

> >>> Moola

> >>>>>>> Trikona Sthana and has got highest Shadbala

> > strength.This

> >>>>>> indicates

> >>>>>>> God's Blessings are with you ,so no planetary

> > afflictions

> >>>>> during

> >>>>>>> their transit will affect your life !!Eventhough Guru is

> > in

> >>> the

> >>>>>>> beginning of the Rashi, he is in Devalokamsha.Also he

> > has

> >>>>> highest

> >>>>>>> Vimshopaka Bala.So either Sadesathi or Kantaka Shani or

> >>> Ashtama

> >>>>>> Shani

> >>>>>>> will not affect you.Just see, you are born on Thursday,

> >> your

> >>>>>> Janma

> >>>>>>> Nakshatra is Poorvashada ruled by Shukra who in Navamsha

> > is

> >>>>>> placed in

> >>>>>>> Kumbhamsha which is near to Ucchamsha.So this indicates

> >>> Mother

> >>>>>> Lalita

> >>>>>>> Tripura Sundari's Blessings are with you.So how the

> > other

> >>>>> Grahas

> >>>>>> in

> >>>>>>> their adverse positions will harm you ??

> >>>>>>>> I think you got the reply now.

> >>>>>>>> With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

> >>>>>>>> Ramadas Rao.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh@>

> >>>>>>>> sohamsa

> >>>>>>>> Tuesday, 31 October, 2006 10:03:34 AM

> >>>>>>>> Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-

> >>>>> Respected

> >>>>>> Sir

> >>>>>>> Dakshinamoorthy ji

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Om Gurave Namah

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Namaste friends,

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> I have one query regarding ashtama shani. Saturn has

> > been

> >>>>>>> transiting

> >>>>>>>> my 8th house (both from lagna and from moon) for the

> > past

> >>> two

> >>>>>> and

> >>>>>>> odd

> >>>>>>>> years, yet i have not faced any difficulty

> >>>>>>> whatsoever.. .healthwise,

> >>>>>>>> wealthwise or happinesswise! ! Except for a mild bout

> > of

> >>>>>> jaundice

> >>>>>>> for

> >>>>>>>> my younger son, I have not experienced any difficulty,

> > by

> >>>>> god's

> >>>>>>>> grace. On the contrary, infact, this period has been

> > one

> >> of

> >>>>> the

> >>>>>>>> healthiest/happiest /most prosperous periods in my

> > life,

> >>>>>> despite

> >>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>> fact that i quit my job in may 2004!!

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> I have observed from some of my friends' charts that

> >>> ashtama

> >>>>>> shani

> >>>>>>>> has indeed been tough for them, so I am really puzzled

> >> and

> >>>>>> curious

> >>>>>>>> (also very thankful)as to how god has spared me.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> I request my friends to help me unravel this puzzle.

> > This

> >>>>> would

> >>>>>>> also

> >>>>>>>> help me to understand what factors can counteract

> > ashtama

> >>>>>> shani,

> >>>>>>>> though I agree that analysis of one's own chart may

> > not

> >> be

> >>>>> the

> >>>>>> best

> >>>>>>>> way to do that!!

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> My birth data is

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> September 1, 1960

> >>>>>>>> Time: 3:24:22 pm

> >>>>>>>> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> >>>>>>>> Place: Hyderabad, AP (78 E 30', 17 N 20')

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> If some one else has similar experience of a

> > beneficial

> >>>>> ashtama

> >>>>>>> shani

> >>>>>>>> period(!!), i request them to share their birth data,

> > so

> >>> that

> >>>>>> it

> >>>>>>>> would help me in bettering my understanding.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Regards,

> >>>>>>>> Lakshmi

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> sohamsa@ .com, Kaartik Gor

> >>> <astro_gor@ ..>

> >>>>>> wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Om Sai Ram

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Respected Sir,

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> You are right in 8'th lord in 10'th ...In my Dasamsa

> >> D10

> >>> my

> >>>>>> 8'th

> >>>>>>>> lord (Saturn) is in 10'th (deblitated in Mesh).

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Jyotish gives me lot of satisfaction. ...any

> > particular

> >>>>>> reason ??

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> ALso I am undergoing Saturn Mahadasha and my Mercury

> >>>>>> antardasa is

> >>>>>>>> next which is also in 10'th house of D10....what are

> > the

> >>>>>> effects of

> >>>>>>>> it being with a weak saturn ??

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> I think a weak saturn actually is good ?? am I

> > right ??

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Any remedies for a better career...when will I get

> > my

> >>>>>> promotion.

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Birth Data

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> 04/05/1976

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> 05:38:00 am

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Ahmedabad, Gujarat

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> India

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Lagna is Aries and Moon Sign is Gemini.

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Thanking you in advance.

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Kaartik Gor

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer@ ...> wrote:

> >>>>>>>>> Dear Member:

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> As I have repeatedly said in my earlier posts, 8th

> > lord

> >>> in

> >>>>>> the

> >>>>>>> 10th

> >>>>>>>>> house is definitely not a good indicator for

> >> professional

> >>>>>>>>> satisfaction. In ashtakavarga chart (SAV), the no.

> > of

> >>>>> bindus

> >>>>>> in

> >>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>>> 12th house is significantly more than the no. of

> > bindus

> >>> in

> >>>>>> either

> >>>>>>>>> 10th house (service), 11th house (business) or even

> >>>>>> lagna....so,

> >>>>>>> on

> >>>>>>>> a

> >>>>>>>>> mundane level, your professional aspects look quite

> >>> tough!

> >>>>>>> However,

> >>>>>>>>> in your case, the 6th lord Mars is also in the 10th.

> >> The

> >>>>>>>> combination

> >>>>>>>>> of 6th and 8th house lords may give mild vipareetha

> >> raaja

> >>>>>> yoga

> >>>>>>> (by

> >>>>>>>>> traditional definitions, this is not vipareeta raja

> >> yoga;

> >>>>> by

> >>>>>>>>> tradition, the bad house lord should be in another

> > bad

> >>>>>>> house...but

> >>>>>>>> in

> >>>>>>>>> practice, the combination of two bad lords does

> > produce

> >>>>> some

> >>>>>>>>> vipareeta raaja yoga effects in many real cases.

> > Astro

> >>>>>>> researchers

> >>>>>>>>> of this forum may check whether this " hypothesis "

> >>> works!).

> >>>>>> Mars

> >>>>>>> in

> >>>>>>>>> your case, is also the lagna lord and it is in the

> >> house

> >>> of

> >>>>>> its

> >>>>>>>> yoga

> >>>>>>>>> kaaraka Moreover, your 10th lord is in the 11th

> > house

> >>> which

> >>>>>>>>> indicates gains from one's profession. So, in my

> >> opinion,

> >>>>> you

> >>>>>> may

> >>>>>>>> be

> >>>>>>>>> able to get a sudden life in your profession

> > especially

> >>>>> after

> >>>>>>> your

> >>>>>>>>> 41st year. Kindly try to consolidate yourself in any

> >>>>> position

> >>>>>> not

> >>>>>>>>> only now, but even in the future. Take only

> > considered

> >>>>> steps

> >>>>>> in

> >>>>>>>>> profession.

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Regarding spirituality, you will gain a lot by

> > worship

> >> of

> >>>>>> Lord

> >>>>>>>>> Krishna signigying Moon....this will give you rare

> >>>>> spiritual

> >>>>>>>>> awakenings. Reading of Bhagavat Gita and

> > Naaraayaneeyam

> >>>>> will

> >>>>>> be

> >>>>>>>>> auspicious to you. (Moon conjunct Rahu and

> >> Jupiter...Moon

> >>>>> is

> >>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>> 9th

> >>>>>>>>> house lord; Jupiter is the 5th house lord).

> > Similarly,

> >>>>>> worship of

> >>>>>>>>> Lord Lakshmi Narasimha or Goddess Pratiyangira will

> >> help

> >>>>> you

> >>>>>> to

> >>>>>>>>> awaken your kundalini shakti. (do either

> > one...kindly

> >> do

> >>>>> not

> >>>>>> do

> >>>>>>>> both

> >>>>>>>>> at the same time if you are doing serious

> > sadhanaas...

> >> I

> >>>>> have

> >>>>>> a

> >>>>>>>> strong

> >>>>>>>>> reason to say this though I would not like to

> > divulge

> >> it

> >>> to

> >>>>>> you

> >>>>>>>> now).

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Your spiritual life seems very promising. For

> > success

> >> in

> >>>>>>>>> professional aspects, satisfy Sun by chanting 'Shri

> >> Raama

> >>>>>>>>> Pattaabhisheka sargam " with devotion regularly.

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Regarding ashtama sani, you will be out of its grasp

> >> from

> >>>>>>> November

> >>>>>>>>> 2006. so, nothing to worry about the future due to

> >>> ashtama

> >>>>>> sani.

> >>>>>>>> The

> >>>>>>>>> worst is probably over for you!

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Blessed be.

> >>>>>>>>> Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> In vedic astrology, " mgoel1973 "

> >>>>>> <mgoel1973@>

> >>>>>>> wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> Respected Sir,

> >>>>>>>>>> My DOB is 16/9/72 and time is 12:22 pm.place of

> > birth

> >>>>>> roorkee.

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> Sir,

> >>>>>>>>>> Am I going under the period of ashtama shani.How

> > this

> >>>>> will

> >>>>>>> affect

> >>>>>>>>> me.I

> >>>>>>>>>> am not doing well in the job area.What remedies

> >> should

> >>> I

> >>>>> do

> >>>>>> for

> >>>>>>>>> better

> >>>>>>>>>> job prospects and all round satisfaction, Sir,I am

> >> also

> >>>>>>> spritually

> >>>>>>>>>> inclined.What has the fate in store for me ?

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> regards

> >>>>>>>>>>

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November 11, 2006

Dear Utpal ji,

Many thanks for sharing your experience.

One thing, which I observed is the 3rd /6th / 10th / 11th placement of saturn

from moon, often giving favourable results in sade sati / 4th/8th shani transit.

Members may share their experience on this possibility.

Inspite of simha lagna, I gained mostly with shani (though in 8th house) - e.g.

sadi sati, shani bhukti etc. Yes, as I stated - shani's transit over natal rahu

was really bad.

regards / Prafulla Gang

Remember, if two men agree on everything? Only one is doing the thinking!

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>

> vedic_pathak

> Sat, 11 Nov 2006 07:50:25 -0000

> sohamsa

> Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-Respected Sir

> Dakshinamoorthy ji

>

> Namaste Prafulla Bhai,

>

> As i Indicated My 8th lord saturn is in Pushkaramsha, but Satrun's

> transit from 8th of my moon was a period which threw great danger to

> my body & education, almost whole life. but finally i survived

> unhert.

>

> It was not a rosy period for me. i think becuase Saturn is in " Vish

> Yoga " in 12th, Natal 8th house from Lagna was Hemmed between Transit

> Saturn & Transit Rahu and add to that Rahu/Rahu was running which is

> placed in my 8th house in Rashi chart.

>

> regards,

>

> Utpal Pathak

>

> sohamsa , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote:

>>

>> Dear Utpal ji, Lakshmi ji and Ramdas Rao ji,

>>

>> Vwry interesting. My 8th lord Jupiter (simha lagna - guru in 12th

> house in rashi as well) is also in Pushkaramsha (in karaka in D9

> and most of D charts) and incidently, sade sati did very good for

> me. Now I am going through ashtama Shani..so I will be observing now

> as to how does it work in this transit. (March 8, 1967; 17.40 IST,

> Jodhpur-India 73E04 / 26N17).

>>

>> Yes, shani's tranit over natal rahu (in 9th house) was painful /

> unfruitful period.

>>

>> regards / Prafulla Gang

>>

>> Remember, if two men agree on everything? Only one is doing the

> thinking!

>> ************************************************

>>

>>>

>>> vedic_pathak

>>> Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:39:58 -0000

>>> sohamsa

>>> Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-Respected

> Sir

>>> Dakshinamoorthy ji

>>>

>>> ||Jay Gurudev||

>>>

>>> Lakshmi bahen, I forgot to add that my Saturn is obviously in

>>> Pushkar Navamansha. actaully a " Visha Yoag " in 12th having both

> the

>>> opposite palnets within one degree, Vargottama & in Pushkar

>>> Navamansha. probably Vishyoga got strength of vargottam &

>>> pushkaramsa. Amruta is spoied by Visha. terrible!! i don't want

> to

>>> think more...

>>>

>>> My 8th lord saturn is in Pushkaramasha. during transit of Saturn

>>> from 8th of my Natal moon & saturn, I came under a terrible

> threat.

>>> Doctor told my parents that if we would have been delayed by one

>>> day, they would have had no option then to cut my left Lag from

> the

>>> region of Knee. BUT & it's a big BUT that it was not needed & i

> was

>>> saved by lord Shiva who sits in my 12th consuming all the wish by

>>> himself.

>>>

>>> warm regards,

>>>

>>> Utpal Pathak

>>>

>>> sohamsa , " b_lakshmi_ramesh "

>>> <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:

>>>>

>>>> Om Gurave Namah

>>>>

>>>> Namaste Ramdas Raoji,

>>>>

>>>> Raghu Nemani's moon is also in pushkaramsa...and he did have a

>>>> successful period, though not without some bad & sad

>>> events...which

>>>> are perhaps attributable to Saturn's transit over natal Rahu?

>>>>

>>>> Regards,

>>>> Lakshmi

>>>>

>>>> sohamsa , " b_lakshmi_ramesh "

>>>> <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> Om Gurave Namah

>>>>>

>>>>> Namaste Ramdas Raoji,

>>>>>

>>>>> Yes, Partha's moon, his 8th lord, is also in pushkara navamsa

> as

>>>> well

>>>>> as in pushkara bhaga. This information is given by Partha

>>> himself.

>>>>>

>>>>> So, your point about 8th lord's strength turning ashtama shani

>>> into

>>>> a

>>>>> beneficial experience is already proved in 3 cases. Perhaps

>>> other

>>>>> friends would share their experiences & feelings. The following

>>> is

>>>>> the table given by Partha about pushkara navamsa.

>>>>>

>>>>> Mesha sign

>>>>> Thul navamsa(7th)

>>>>> Dhanu navamsa(9th)

>>>>>

>>>>> Vrishabha sign

>>>>> Vrishabh navamsa(5rd)

>>>>> Meen navamsa(3rd)

>>>>>

>>>>> Mithun sign

>>>>> Vrishabh navamsa(8th )

>>>>> Meen navamsa(6th)

>>>>>

>>>>> Karka sign

>>>>> Kanya navamsa(3rd)

>>>>> Karka navamsa(1st)

>>>>>

>>>>> Simha sign

>>>>> Thul navamsa(7th)

>>>>> Dhanu navamsa(9th)

>>>>>

>>>>> Kanya sign

>>>>> Vrishabh navamsa(5th)

>>>>> Meen navamsa(3rd)

>>>>>

>>>>> Thul sign

>>>>> Vrishabh navamsa(8th)

>>>>> Meen navamsa(6th)

>>>>>

>>>>> Vrischik sign

>>>>> Kanya navamsa(3rd)

>>>>> Karka navamsa(1st)

>>>>>

>>>>> Dhanu sign

>>>>> Thul navamsa(7th)

>>>>> Dhanu navamsa(9th)

>>>>>

>>>>> Makar sign

>>>>> Vrishabh navamsa(5th)

>>>>> Meen navamsa(3rd)

>>>>>

>>>>> Kumbh sign

>>>>> Vrishabh navamsa(8th)

>>>>> Meen navamsa(6th)

>>>>>

>>>>> Meen sign

>>>>> Kanya navamsa(3rd)

>>>>> Karka navamsa(1st)

>>>>>

>>>>> Regards,

>>>>> Lakshmi

>>>>>

>>>>> sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao@>

> wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

>>>>>> OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

>>>>>> Dear Lakshmi Ji,

>>>>>> Thanks for your views.Please check Partha's chart and I hope

>>>> you

>>>>> will get the answer.

>>>>>> With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

>>>>>> Ramadas Rao.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:

>>>>>> Om Gurave Namah

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Namaste Ramadas Raoji,

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Thanks for sharing your ashtama shani experiences with us.

>>> Your

>>>>>> Saturn is not only lagna/2nd lord and shubhapati, but is also

>>>>> posited

>>>>>> in the 9th house...indicating your great spirituality and

>>> dharmic

>>>>>> nature. For such a person, it's no wonder that ashtama shani

>>>> turned

>>>>>> out to be beneficial. So, my conjecture about ashtama shani

>>> (in

>>>>>> tandem with Tr Jupiter)triggering karmic life-events is not

>>>>> incorrect.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Another point you've made about the lord of ashtama bhava

>>> being

>>>> in

>>>>>> Pushkaramsa and that having made the ashtama shani is also

>>> very

>>>>>> interesting and thought provoking. incidentally, my 8th lord,

>>>> moon

>>>>> is

>>>>>> also in pushkaramsa. Is Partha's moon also in pushkaramsa?

>>> I'll

>>>>> have

>>>>>> to check!!

>>>>>>

>>>>>> regards,

>>>>>> Lakshmi

>>>>>>

>>>>>> sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao@>

>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

>>>>>>> OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

>>>>>>> Dear Lakshmi Ji and other members of this list,

>>>>>>> It is very interesting to read everybody's experiences

>>> during

>>>> the

>>>>>> difficult transits of Shani.

>>>>>>> Now let me give some inputs of Shani's transit over 8th

>>> house

>>>>>> from Lagna and Chandra in my life for the 1st time.Shani

>>> entered

>>>>>> Simha Rashi on 7/9/1977 and entered Kanya Rashi on

>>>> 27/7/1980.During

>>>>>> the beginning of Shani's transit I was working in a Central -

>>>> State

>>>>>> government company and my salary was just revised just befor

>>>> Shani

>>>>>> entered Simha Rashi.In 1978,between April to May, there was a

>>>>> strike

>>>>>> in our company,so there was no salary for one month but by May

>>>> end,

>>>>>> the strike ended with success and we got the salary for the

>>>> strike

>>>>>> period and also got promoted to a higher category from July

>>>>>> 1978.During the same period, my engagement was fixed and I got

>>>>>> married on 17th of Nov.1978.We both of us went to different

>>>> places

>>>>>> during Jan.1979 including Tirupaty and Mantralaya Shri

>>>> Raghavendra

>>>>>> Swami Ji Brindavan.On Oct.1979, I was blessed with a male

>>> child

>>>>>> also.Shani left Simha rashi on 27/7/1980.So during this whole

>>>>> trasnit

>>>>>> of Shani on 8th house from Lagna and Chandra was a Blessed one

>>>>>>> for me.During the above said period,Guru in transit was in

>>>>> Mithuna

>>>>>> ( 6th house ), 7th house in 1978 and then in 1979 -1980 in

>>> Simha

>>>>>> Rashi in 8th house.So this clearly indicates Shani's transit

>>> in

>>>> 8th

>>>>>> house from Lagna and Chandra Rashi has given beneficial

>>>> results.For

>>>>>> Makara Lagna, Shani is Lagna and 2nd house lord and is a

>>> benefic

>>>>> for

>>>>>> this Lagna.Another important thing I learnt from this transit

>>> is

>>>>>> eventhough the transit of Shani over 8th house is bad ,if his

>>>> sign

>>>>>> lord ie., Surya is placed in Meena Rashi in 3rd from both

>>> Lagna

>>>> and

>>>>>> Chandra and is in Pushkaramsha.This Surya's Pushkaramsha has

>>>> lifted

>>>>>> me and blessed with auspicious results during the Shani's

>>> transit

>>>>>> over Simha Rashi.During the above transit, Guru-Shani, Guru-

>>> Budha

>>>>> and

>>>>>> Guru-Ketu was running using 360 Savana days per year.Now Shani

>>>>> again

>>>>>> came to Simha rashi which is 8th from Lagna and Chandra.I pray

>>>> God

>>>>>> that this transit also proves beneficial to me in all the

> ways.

>>>>>>> I am sharing this experience to all the members of the list

>>> for

>>>>>> further discussion.

>>>>>>> With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

>>>>>>> Ramadas Rao.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote:

>>>>>>> Om Gurave Namah

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Dear Karu,

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Namaste.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> It was very interesting to read about your experiences

>>> during

>>>>>> Saturn

>>>>>>> transit. I also agree that Saturn is one planet who teaches

>>> us

>>>>> hard

>>>>>>> lessons and he's always kind to those who are willing to

>>> learn.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Regarding Partha, he's like a child...walking out in a huff

>>>> when

>>>>>> he's

>>>>>>> hurt or angry, like we all are at some or other juncture in

>>>> life.

>>>>>> But

>>>>>>> I must say that his affection for SJC and Guruji never

>>> wavered,

>>>>> and

>>>>>> I

>>>>>>> very much consider him as one of us.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Thanks for bringing it to my notice because curiously enough

>>>> this

>>>>>>> ashtama shani seems to have favourably impacted on the chara

>>>>> karaka

>>>>>>> (twa)s of the planets in trines & aspected by Tr Saturn in

>>>>>>> navamsa...he's gained a lovely wife and a better job (moon

>>> as

>>>>> DK),

>>>>>>> he's soon going to be a proud father (Mercury-PK), he's

>>> found

>>>>>>> nurturing/protection from an equally lovely mother-like

>>> person

>>>>>>> (Saturn as MK) and perhaps he's coming into his own or

>>> evolving

>>>>> as

>>>>>> a

>>>>>>> person too(Sun as AK).

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> It could also have happened because Tr Jupiter was

>>>> simultaneously

>>>>>>> aspecting his natal 3rd, 5th, 6th, 7th and 9th houses by

>>>>> rasi/graha

>>>>>>> drishtis.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Manifestation of dharmic & karmic connections?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I do not know if he's found a Guru too.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Regards,

>>>>>>> Lakshmi

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> sohamsa , " Karu " <heen@> wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Hare Rama Krshna

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Dear Lakshmi,

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I finished a real bad time when Saturn transit in Gemini,

>>> in

>>>> my

>>>>>>> Lagna. I have Rahu, Moon, Guru, Venus in trine to Gemini in

>>>>> navamsa

>>>>>>> and I suffered a lot. Gemini is A5 and I forget all Manthra

>>> and

>>>>>>> cleared the path for Yama Raj. When the Saturn in exact

>>> degrees

>>>>> of

>>>>>>> Lagna, I lost all control over Dhi.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> But, due to blessings of Guru, I consider this was one of

>>> the

>>>>>> best

>>>>>>> time in my life. It removed fear of death, and gave me many

>>> in

>>>>>>> retun. If I not face such terible time, I still consider God

>>> as

>>>>>>> enemies, and still my heart beat is depending on out siders.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> So Lakshmi, Why we are waiting for only adverse effects

>>> when

>>>>>> Saturn

>>>>>>> transit over 8th or any bad places ? For spiritual progress,

>>>> this

>>>>>> is

>>>>>>> a disguise blessing.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Partha has Sun and Moon in trine. Can you remember Partha

>>>>>>> dissapointed and left us ? How do you explain this ? Is this

>>>> has

>>>>>> some

>>>>>>> thing to do with Mana and self ? Again this is only a one

>>> angle

>>>>> of

>>>>>>> looking. We may learn in more in future. Yes, Murthi also

>>> has

>>>> lot

>>>>>> to

>>>>>>> do.

>>>>>>>> Please pass my regards to Sasank and Ramesh. My best

>>> wishes

>>>> and

>>>>>>> congradulation for his win.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Here is the chart of X PM.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Dudley Senanayake

>>>>>>>> June 19, 1911

>>>>>>>> Time: 12:15:51 pm

>>>>>>>> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

>>>>>>>> Place: 79 E 51' 00 " , 6 N 56' 00 "

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Thanks

>>>>>>>> Karu

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> -

>>>>>>>> b_lakshmi_ramesh

>>>>>>>> sohamsa

>>>>>>>> Tuesday, November 07, 2006 1:06 AM

>>>>>>>> Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-

>>>> Respected

>>>>>>> Sir Dakshinamoorthy ji

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Om Gurave Namah

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Dear Karu,

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Namaste. No, I can't see the attachment, because

>>> groups

>>>>> do

>>>>>>> not

>>>>>>>> store attachments. Could you please give the birth data,

>>> so

>>>>> that

>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>> can generate the chart and appreciate your input better?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Thanks for the input from Devakeralam. I appreciate the

>>> point

>>>>>>> you've

>>>>>>>> made. In navamsa, I do not have any planets in trines or

>>> in

>>>> 7th

>>>>>>> to Tr

>>>>>>>> Saturn in cancer. Only Navamsa ascendant is in trines to

>>> Tr

>>>>>>> saturn,

>>>>>>>> so does that make any difference?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> But in Partha's case, there are planets in trines & 7th

>>> from

>>>> Tr

>>>>>>>> Saturn, but he said that he did not feel the adverse impct

>>> of

>>>>>>> ashtama

>>>>>>>> shani.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I think one needs to analyse the transit effect from all

>>> the

>>>>>>>> perspectives of murthi, operating dasa, natal & navamsa

>>>>>>> placements

>>>>>>>> and perhaps consider what result is predominantly thrown

>>> up

>>>> by

>>>>>>> these

>>>>>>>> examinations.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Sasank (my younger son) sends his loving regards to his

>>>>> favourite

>>>>>>>> Karu uncle, and he's so happy that Australia won the

>>>> Champions

>>>>>>>> trophy.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Regards,

>>>>>>>> Lakshmi

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> sohamsa , " Karu " <heen@> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> HARE RAMA KRISHNA

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Dear Lakshmi,

>>>>>>>>> Please see the attached chart.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> In 1952, When Saturn is in Lagna, as well as 8th from

>>> the

>>>>> Moon,

>>>>>>> he

>>>>>>>> was passing Mercury Mahadasa and Saturn Antar dasa. He

>>> became

>>>>> the

>>>>>>>> prime minister of Sri Lanka. His father was the first

>>> prime

>>>>>>> minister

>>>>>>>> of Sri Lanka.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Strong Mercury gave him the Rajayoga, but has Papa (or

>>>>> kroora)

>>>>>>>> Argala from 12th lord Sun (Father). In the natal chart,

>>>> Saturn

>>>>>>> and

>>>>>>>> Rahu obstruct argala of Sun, and promised to activate the

>>>> Raja

>>>>>>> yoga

>>>>>>>> when the time comes. As soon as Saturn antar dasa came,

>>> his

>>>>>>> father

>>>>>>>> died and he became the PM.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> See the Navamsa. Jupiter is in Capricorn, trine to

>>> Virgo.

>>>> So

>>>>> Tr

>>>>>>>> Saturn damage father's life as Jupiter is the lord of the

>>> 8th

>>>>>>> from

>>>>>>>> 9th house of Rasi. This proves, all negative effects come

>>>> from

>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>> bhavas related to planets in trine or 7th from the Sign of

>>> Tr

>>>>>>> Saturn

>>>>>>>> in Navamsa.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Did you find in your Navamsa chart any planets in Trine

>>> or

>>>>> 7th

>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>> Cancer ?

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Perhaps there can be many reasons, but I use this simple

>>>> rule

>>>>>>> from

>>>>>>>> Devakaralam.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Best Wishes

>>>>>>>>> Karu

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> -

>>>>>>>>> b_lakshmi_ramesh

>>>>>>>>> sohamsa

>>>>>>>>> Thursday, November 02, 2006 8:51 PM

>>>>>>>>> Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-

>>>>> Respected

>>>>>>>> Sir Dakshinamoorthy ji

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Om Gurave Namah

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Namaste Ramdas Raoji,

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your learned explanation and bracing words.

>>> As

>>>> you

>>>>>>>> said,

>>>>>>>>> Mother's grace can indeed ward off all evils, as do

>>>> blessings

>>>>>>>> from

>>>>>>>>> good people like you.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> I do agree that a strong Jupiter in lagna gives me a lot

>>> of

>>>>>>>> immunity.

>>>>>>>>> I was also wondering if Saturn's association with the

>>> 8th

>>>>>>>> house/lord

>>>>>>>>> in the natal chart has something to do with this,

>>> because

>>>>>>> Partha

>>>>>>>> had

>>>>>>>>> also not experienced any malefic results of ashtama

>>> shani

>>>> and

>>>>>>> he

>>>>>>>> has

>>>>>>>>> Saturn in 8th house (cancer) in his natal chart.

>>> Ofcourse

>>>> he

>>>>>>> also

>>>>>>>> had

>>>>>>>>> Rahu dasa running and Rahu aspects 9th house, as does

>>> his

>>>>>>>> dispositor,

>>>>>>>>> Venus.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> This is just a thought...

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Regards,

>>>>>>>>> Lakshmi

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> sohamsa , Ramadas Rao

>>> <ramadasrao@>

>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

>>>>>>>>>> OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

>>>>>>>>>> Dear Lakshmi Ji,

>>>>>>>>>> In your chart, Lagna lord Guru is in Lagna which is

>>> his

>>>>> Moola

>>>>>>>>> Trikona Sthana and has got highest Shadbala

>>> strength.This

>>>>>>>> indicates

>>>>>>>>> God's Blessings are with you ,so no planetary

>>> afflictions

>>>>>>> during

>>>>>>>>> their transit will affect your life !!Eventhough Guru is

>>> in

>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>> beginning of the Rashi, he is in Devalokamsha.Also he

>>> has

>>>>>>> highest

>>>>>>>>> Vimshopaka Bala.So either Sadesathi or Kantaka Shani or

>>>>> Ashtama

>>>>>>>> Shani

>>>>>>>>> will not affect you.Just see, you are born on Thursday,

>>>> your

>>>>>>>> Janma

>>>>>>>>> Nakshatra is Poorvashada ruled by Shukra who in Navamsha

>>> is

>>>>>>>> placed in

>>>>>>>>> Kumbhamsha which is near to Ucchamsha.So this indicates

>>>>> Mother

>>>>>>>> Lalita

>>>>>>>>> Tripura Sundari's Blessings are with you.So how the

>>> other

>>>>>>> Grahas

>>>>>>>> in

>>>>>>>>> their adverse positions will harm you ??

>>>>>>>>>> I think you got the reply now.

>>>>>>>>>> With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

>>>>>>>>>> Ramadas Rao.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> b_lakshmi_ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh@>

>>>>>>>>>> sohamsa

>>>>>>>>>> Tuesday, 31 October, 2006 10:03:34 AM

>>>>>>>>>> Re: Ashtama Shani-Remedies/effects-

>>>>>>> Respected

>>>>>>>> Sir

>>>>>>>>> Dakshinamoorthy ji

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Om Gurave Namah

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Namaste friends,

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> I have one query regarding ashtama shani. Saturn has

>>> been

>>>>>>>>> transiting

>>>>>>>>>> my 8th house (both from lagna and from moon) for the

>>> past

>>>>> two

>>>>>>>> and

>>>>>>>>> odd

>>>>>>>>>> years, yet i have not faced any difficulty

>>>>>>>>> whatsoever.. .healthwise,

>>>>>>>>>> wealthwise or happinesswise! ! Except for a mild bout

>>> of

>>>>>>>> jaundice

>>>>>>>>> for

>>>>>>>>>> my younger son, I have not experienced any difficulty,

>>> by

>>>>>>> god's

>>>>>>>>>> grace. On the contrary, infact, this period has been

>>> one

>>>> of

>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>> healthiest/happiest /most prosperous periods in my

>>> life,

>>>>>>>> despite

>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>> fact that i quit my job in may 2004!!

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> I have observed from some of my friends' charts that

>>>>> ashtama

>>>>>>>> shani

>>>>>>>>>> has indeed been tough for them, so I am really puzzled

>>>> and

>>>>>>>> curious

>>>>>>>>>> (also very thankful)as to how god has spared me.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> I request my friends to help me unravel this puzzle.

>>> This

>>>>>>> would

>>>>>>>>> also

>>>>>>>>>> help me to understand what factors can counteract

>>> ashtama

>>>>>>>> shani,

>>>>>>>>>> though I agree that analysis of one's own chart may

>>> not

>>>> be

>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>> best

>>>>>>>>>> way to do that!!

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> My birth data is

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> September 1, 1960

>>>>>>>>>> Time: 3:24:22 pm

>>>>>>>>>> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

>>>>>>>>>> Place: Hyderabad, AP (78 E 30', 17 N 20')

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> If some one else has similar experience of a

>>> beneficial

>>>>>>> ashtama

>>>>>>>>> shani

>>>>>>>>>> period(!!), i request them to share their birth data,

>>> so

>>>>> that

>>>>>>>> it

>>>>>>>>>> would help me in bettering my understanding.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Regards,

>>>>>>>>>> Lakshmi

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> sohamsa@ .com, Kaartik Gor

>>>>> <astro_gor@ ..>

>>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Om Sai Ram

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Respected Sir,

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> You are right in 8'th lord in 10'th ...In my Dasamsa

>>>> D10

>>>>> my

>>>>>>>> 8'th

>>>>>>>>>> lord (Saturn) is in 10'th (deblitated in Mesh).

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Jyotish gives me lot of satisfaction. ...any

>>> particular

>>>>>>>> reason ??

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> ALso I am undergoing Saturn Mahadasha and my Mercury

>>>>>>>> antardasa is

>>>>>>>>>> next which is also in 10'th house of D10....what are

>>> the

>>>>>>>> effects of

>>>>>>>>>> it being with a weak saturn ??

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> I think a weak saturn actually is good ?? am I

>>> right ??

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Any remedies for a better career...when will I get

>>> my

>>>>>>>> promotion.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Birth Data

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> 04/05/1976

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> 05:38:00 am

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Ahmedabad, Gujarat

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> India

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Lagna is Aries and Moon Sign is Gemini.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Thanking you in advance.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Kaartik Gor

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer@ ...> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Member:

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> As I have repeatedly said in my earlier posts, 8th

>>> lord

>>>>> in

>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>> 10th

>>>>>>>>>>> house is definitely not a good indicator for

>>>> professional

>>>>>>>>>>> satisfaction. In ashtakavarga chart (SAV), the no.

>>> of

>>>>>>> bindus

>>>>>>>> in

>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>> 12th house is significantly more than the no. of

>>> bindus

>>>>> in

>>>>>>>> either

>>>>>>>>>>> 10th house (service), 11th house (business) or even

>>>>>>>> lagna....so,

>>>>>>>>> on

>>>>>>>>>> a

>>>>>>>>>>> mundane level, your professional aspects look quite

>>>>> tough!

>>>>>>>>> However,

>>>>>>>>>>> in your case, the 6th lord Mars is also in the 10th.

>>>> The

>>>>>>>>>> combination

>>>>>>>>>>> of 6th and 8th house lords may give mild vipareetha

>>>> raaja

>>>>>>>> yoga

>>>>>>>>> (by

>>>>>>>>>>> traditional definitions, this is not vipareeta raja

>>>> yoga;

>>>>>>> by

>>>>>>>>>>> tradition, the bad house lord should be in another

>>> bad

>>>>>>>>> house...but

>>>>>>>>>> in

>>>>>>>>>>> practice, the combination of two bad lords does

>>> produce

>>>>>>> some

>>>>>>>>>>> vipareeta raaja yoga effects in many real cases.

>>> Astro

>>>>>>>>> researchers

>>>>>>>>>>> of this forum may check whether this " hypothesis "

>>>>> works!).

>>>>>>>> Mars

>>>>>>>>> in

>>>>>>>>>>> your case, is also the lagna lord and it is in the

>>>> house

>>>>> of

>>>>>>>> its

>>>>>>>>>> yoga

>>>>>>>>>>> kaaraka Moreover, your 10th lord is in the 11th

>>> house

>>>>> which

>>>>>>>>>>> indicates gains from one's profession. So, in my

>>>> opinion,

>>>>>>> you

>>>>>>>> may

>>>>>>>>>> be

>>>>>>>>>>> able to get a sudden life in your profession

>>> especially

>>>>>>> after

>>>>>>>>> your

>>>>>>>>>>> 41st year. Kindly try to consolidate yourself in any

>>>>>>> position

>>>>>>>> not

>>>>>>>>>>> only now, but even in the future. Take only

>>> considered

>>>>>>> steps

>>>>>>>> in

>>>>>>>>>>> profession.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding spirituality, you will gain a lot by

>>> worship

>>>> of

>>>>>>>> Lord

>>>>>>>>>>> Krishna signigying Moon....this will give you rare

>>>>>>> spiritual

>>>>>>>>>>> awakenings. Reading of Bhagavat Gita and

>>> Naaraayaneeyam

>>>>>>> will

>>>>>>>> be

>>>>>>>>>>> auspicious to you. (Moon conjunct Rahu and

>>>> Jupiter...Moon

>>>>>>> is

>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>> 9th

>>>>>>>>>>> house lord; Jupiter is the 5th house lord).

>>> Similarly,

>>>>>>>> worship of

>>>>>>>>>>> Lord Lakshmi Narasimha or Goddess Pratiyangira will

>>>> help

>>>>>>> you

>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>> awaken your kundalini shakti. (do either

>>> one...kindly

>>>> do

>>>>>>> not

>>>>>>>> do

>>>>>>>>>> both

>>>>>>>>>>> at the same time if you are doing serious

>>> sadhanaas...

>>>> I

>>>>>>> have

>>>>>>>> a

>>>>>>>>>> strong

>>>>>>>>>>> reason to say this though I would not like to

>>> divulge

>>>> it

>>>>> to

>>>>>>>> you

>>>>>>>>>> now).

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Your spiritual life seems very promising. For

>>> success

>>>> in

>>>>>>>>>>> professional aspects, satisfy Sun by chanting 'Shri

>>>> Raama

>>>>>>>>>>> Pattaabhisheka sargam " with devotion regularly.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding ashtama sani, you will be out of its grasp

>>>> from

>>>>>>>>> November

>>>>>>>>>>> 2006. so, nothing to worry about the future due to

>>>>> ashtama

>>>>>>>> sani.

>>>>>>>>>> The

>>>>>>>>>>> worst is probably over for you!

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Blessed be.

>>>>>>>>>>> Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> In vedic astrology, " mgoel1973 "

>>>>>>>> <mgoel1973@>

>>>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Respected Sir,

>>>>>>>>>>>> My DOB is 16/9/72 and time is 12:22 pm.place of

>>> birth

>>>>>>>> roorkee.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Sir,

>>>>>>>>>>>> Am I going under the period of ashtama shani.How

>>> this

>>>>>>> will

>>>>>>>>> affect

>>>>>>>>>>> me.I

>>>>>>>>>>>> am not doing well in the job area.What remedies

>>>> should

>>>>> I

>>>>>>> do

>>>>>>>> for

>>>>>>>>>>> better

>>>>>>>>>>>> job prospects and all round satisfaction, Sir,I am

>>>> also

>>>>>>>>> spritually

>>>>>>>>>>>> inclined.What has the fate in store for me ?

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> regards

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

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OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH Dear Hari, I agree with you if we use different Varga charts but as I explained before, if we check about Pushakaramasha of the 8th lord from Chandra,then we can get the clear picture whether it gives good results or evil results.So Rashi and Navamsha charts are more important than any other varga charts.Also if we use Sripathy Bhava chart, we can calculate Bhava beginning, Bhava mid Point and Bhava end.So if Bhava Madhya or mid point Nakshatra is in Pushkaramasha, then that bhava also prospers.So if you check thise things in my Bhava chart, Bhava 2 mid point falls in Shatabhisha 4th Pada which falls in Pushkaramsha, Bhava 6 mid point falls in Aridra 4th Pada which also falls in Pushkaramsha and 10th Bhava Mid point falls in Vishaka 2nd pada

which also falls in Pushkaramsha.So now you can understand the importance of Pushkaramsha in Bhava charts also which clearly gives the auspicious results related the Bhavas having Pushkaramsha. I hope this helps you. With Shri Hari vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.Jyotisa Shisya <achyutagaddi wrote: |om|Dear Sri Ramadas, pranaamsAs per the

chart that I have for you, let us see if the following makes better sense.July 1978 - Salary raise and promotion - Sani about to transit 3rd from Moon in dasamsa Nov 1978 - Marriage - Sani in 12th from Moon in navamsa (sadesati)Oct 1979 - Birth of Child - Sani in 8th from Moon in saptamsa (astama sani)...both Sani and Guru aspect the 5th house in saptamsa in transit. best regardsHari On 11/7/06, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH Dear Lakshmi Ji and other members of this list, It is very interesting to read everybody's experiences during the difficult transits of Shani. Now let me give some inputs of Shani's transit over 8th house from Lagna and Chandra in my life for the 1st time.Shani entered Simha Rashi on 7/9/1977 and entered Kanya Rashi on 27/7/1980.During the beginning of Shani's transit I was working in a Central -State government company and my salary was just revised just befor Shani entered Simha Rashi.In 1978,between April to May, there was a strike in our company,so there was no salary for one month but by May end, the strike ended with success and we got the salary for the strike period and also got promoted to a higher category from July 1978.During the same period, my engagement was fixed and I got married on 17th of Nov.1978.We both of us went to different places during Jan.1979

including Tirupaty and Mantralaya Shri Raghavendra Swami Ji Brindavan.On Oct.1979, I was blessed with a male child also.Shani left Simha rashi on 27/7/1980.So during this whole trasnit of Shani on 8th house from Lagna and Chandra was a Blessed one for me.During the above said period,Guru in transit was in Mithuna ( 6th house ), 7th house in 1978 and then in 1979 -1980 in Simha Rashi in 8th house.So this clearly indicates Shani's transit in 8th house from Lagna and Chandra Rashi has given beneficial results.For Makara Lagna, Shani is Lagna and 2nd house lord and is a benefic for this Lagna.Another important thing I learnt from this transit is eventhough the transit of Shani over 8th house is bad ,if his sign lord ie., Surya is placed in Meena Rashi in 3rd from both Lagna and Chandra and is in Pushkaramsha.This Surya's Pushkaramsha has lifted me and blessed with auspicious results during the Shani's transit over Simha Rashi.During the above transit, Guru-Shani,

Guru-Budha and Guru-Ketu was running using 360 Savana days per year.Now Shani again came to Simha rashi which is 8th from Lagna and Chandra.I pray God that this transit also proves beneficial to me in all the ways. I am sharing this experience to all the members of the list for further discussion. With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.

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