Guest guest Report post Posted February 1, 2009 Dear Singhji, This is KP learnt and applied in bits, but not complete. 1) Can you answer why is it , that though I have all planets signifying 6th and 12th house, due to their being placed in Constellation of Nodes, and the Nodes occupy 6/12 axis, yet why have I never been admitted in a hospital or face dany health problems of any worry? 2) Rahu has actually done very good for me. I do not accept it as a Badhak just because you think it is placed with the badhak ? Can you explain the astrological reason for it being a Badhaka ? 3) Does Jupiter does not signify any other houses ? 4) Where are the roles of the sublords of other planets and Cusps ? 5) You write that Sun, Mercury, Ketu, Mars, rahu, jupiter, Moon are significators of 12th house. But dont they signify other houses too ? 6) You write that " You should be careful when the signicators of 6th, 8th, 12th, and badhaka will act together in dasha, bhukti and anthras. " This is not just for me, but for everybody living in this world . 7) By the way, venus has given me the most pleasures in Life during its dasha . Can you please explain me astrologically ( KP ) why none of your points match with actual hapennings in my Life ? regards, Bhaskar. , " hbk1hbk_2100 " <hbk1hbk_2100 wrote: > > Hello Bhaskar, > > 1. You have Moon, Mars, Rahu in the constellation of Ketu in 6th > house. > > 2. Jupiter is the strong significator of 8th house as there is no > planet in jupiter's nakshatra, and there is no occupant in eighth > house. > > 3. Sun, Mercury, Ketu, Mars, rahu, jupiter, Moon are significators of > 12th house. > > 4. For Leo ascendant Mars is the badhaka planet as it rules the 9th > house. Rahu in conjunction with Mars will be a strong badhaka planet. > > Most of your planets are in the subs of rahu. I did not get into > further details as it will take too much of my time. > > You should be careful when the signicators of 6th, 8th, 12th, and > badhaka will act together in dasha, bhukti and anthras. > > Rahu and Venus are very strong badhaka planets for you. Venus is > occupant of 9th house and no planet in its constellation. > > You should be very careful when rahu, venus, will act with > significators of 8th house Jupiter and the 12th house significators > mentioned above. > > > > Regards > > G. Singh > > Strong significators: > > 1 SAT, VENUS > 2. MERCURY > 3. VENUS > 4. JUPITER, MARS > 5. JUPITER, SAT > 6. MOON, MARS, RAHU, SAT, KETU > 7. SAT > 8. JUPITER > 9. VENUS, MARS > 10. VENUS, SAT, MERCURY, VENUS > 11. MERCURY > 12. SUN, MERCURY, KETU, MARS, JUPITER , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Singh, > > > > I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but just 2 > > astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is because > most > > of the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. But if you > wish > > you may try. > > > > 28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( near > > Vijaywada,Andhra). > > > > You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every where. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , " hbk1hbk_2100 " <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hello Bhaskar, > > > > > > Could you please provide me with your birth data. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Singh ji, > > > > > > > > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been > admitted > > > to > > > > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas Grace. > See > > > these > > > > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular > house ( > > > > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too, > therefore > > > one > > > > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where in such > > > cases > > > > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic houses > figuring > > > in > > > > the calculations respectively. > > > > > > > > Unless its a pure case. > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " hbk1hbk_2100 " > <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house. > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you have > > > > > found, all > > > > > > nine planets signifying one house . > > > > > > > > > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe > just > > > > > once in > > > > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 > with 7 > > > > > Planets > > > > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not > > > happen, > > > > > but > > > > > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in such > rare > > > > > example. > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and > even > > > if > > > > > you > > > > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare > > > example > > > > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP > Readers, > > > and > > > > > other > > > > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study > such > > > rare > > > > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sudhagarceg " > <sudhagarceg@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In some > > > charts > > > > > i > > > > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. FOr > > > example > > > > > all > > > > > > the > > > > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all > the 9 > > > > > planets > > > > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > > > > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents in > all > > > the > > > > > > > periods? > > > > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and > comfort > > > in > > > > > > > all the periods? > > > > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem > > > effectively. > > > > > > > Thank you sirs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 2, 2009 Respected Dr.Lutther Rath, That given birth details is mine in which all the nine plantes signified 8th house. Birth details are as below DOB : 18,November,1984 TOB : 15:27 POB : Gobichettipalayam (77E27,11N38) , Luther Rath <rathluther wrote: > > Dear Sudhagarji, > I hope it is your good name. I beg excuse if I am wrong. > Kindly send the birth detals of the person in whose chart all 9 planets signify VIII. Some points may be brought to the table of the group, why he should not meet accidents in all periods. There is no point in just saying they signify VIII. One of the senior members may take up the case to enlighten what is what. I request every senior member who has the answer.There may be very many things in the chart to learn. We may be able to have an idea why a planet signifying a house does not give the result. > It's my sincere request to all to be involved in the mater. > With due regards to all members. > Dr. Luther Rath. > > > > > ________________________________ > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish > > Friday, January 30, 2009 10:05:37 PM > Re: i > > > > Dear Sudhir, > > On what base do you feel that he is still trying to get married. Please > explain this. > > Those who are fortunate to have long Life, have done good deeds in their > previous Lives, which is why we must respect them. > > I agree with Shri Raichurji. But why you disagree has to be explained > point wise, with astrological pointers. > > As far as Shri Raichurji is concerned, there is nothing to prove, for > indeed any person having all planets signifying 11th house, would be > certainly consiered the most fortunate. > > You must explain your comments, in light of above. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > @gro ups.com, " sudhir " <taurus.sudhir@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Raichur > > > > I do not agree. May be he is trying to get married yet. > > > > Instead I feel you are the most fortunate man to have long life > > > > Regards > > > > Sudhir > > Consulting astrologer > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -\ > -------- > > > > > > > > - > > Raichur-a-r > > @gro ups.com > > Friday, January 30, 2009 12:33 PM > > Re: Re: i > > > > > > Congratulations. You are the most fortunate man. COULD you send us the > Birth details, so wen keep on record, such a chart > > > > > > raichur anant > > > > > > --- On Fri, 30/1/09, hbk1hbk_2100 hbk1hbk_2100@ ... wrote: > > > > hbk1hbk_2100 hbk1hbk_2100@ ... > > Re: i > > @gro ups.com > > Friday, 30 January, 2009, 1:53 AM > > > > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house. > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " > > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you have > > found, all > > > nine planets signifying one house . > > > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe just > > once in > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 with 7 > > Planets > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not happen, > > but > > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in such rare > > example. > > > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and even if > > you > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare example > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP Readers, and > > other > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study such rare > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " sudhagarceg " > > <sudhagarceg@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In some charts > > i > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. FOr example > > all > > > the > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all the 9 > > planets > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents in all the > > > > periods? > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and comfort in > > > > all the periods? > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem effectively. > > > > Thank you sirs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 2, 2009 dear members find the horoscope redrawn as per kpsw of mine. It is zipped for transmission raichur anant --- On Sun, 1/2/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: i Date: Sunday, 1 February, 2009, 7:32 PMDear Singh, I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but just 2 astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is because most of the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. But if you wish you may try. 28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( near Vijaywada,Andhra). You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every where. regards/Bhaskar. , "hbk1hbk_2100" <hbk1hbk_2100 wrote: > > Hello Bhaskar, > > Could you please provide me with your birth data. > > Regards > > G. Singh > > , "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Singh ji, > > > > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been admitted > to > > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas Grace. See > these > > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular house ( > > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too, therefore > one > > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where in such > cases > > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic houses figuring > in > > the calculations respectively. > > > > Unless its a pure case. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "hbk1hbk_2100" <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > wrote: > > > > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house. > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > , "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you have > > > found, all > > > > nine planets signifying one house . > > > > > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe just > > > once in > > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 with 7 > > > Planets > > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not > happen, > > > but > > > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in such rare > > > example. > > > > > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and even > if > > > you > > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare > example > > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP Readers, > and > > > other > > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study such > rare > > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "sudhagarceg" <sudhagarceg@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In some > charts > > > i > > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house... FOr > example > > > all > > > > the > > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all the 9 > > > planets > > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents in all > the > > > > > periods? > > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and comfort > in > > > > > all the periods? > > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem > effectively. > > > > > Thank you sirs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 2, 2009 Dear Mr RaichurKindly clarify as to why Bhsker never met with an accident/ illhealth.Regardssujata--- On Mon, 2/2/09, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:Raichur-a-r <raichurarRe: Re: i , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotishMonday, 2 February, 2009, 2:36 PM dear members find the horoscope redrawn as per kpsw of mine. It is zipped for transmission raichur anant --- On Sun, 1/2/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> Re: i@gro ups.comSunday, 1 February, 2009, 7:32 PMDear Singh,I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but just 2astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is because mostof the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. But if you wishyou may try.28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( nearVijaywada,Andhra) .You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every where.regards/Bhaskar..@gro ups.com, "hbk1hbk_2100"<hbk1hbk_2100@ ...>wrote:>> Hello Bhaskar,>> Could you please provide me with your birth data.>> Regards>> G. Singh>> --- In @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:> >> >> > Dear Singh ji,> >> > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been admitted> to> > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas Grace. See> these> > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular house (> > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too, therefore> one> > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where in such> cases> > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic houses figuring> in> > the calculations respectively.> >> > Unless its a pure case.> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> >> >> > @gro ups.com, "hbk1hbk_2100"<hbk1hbk_2100@>> > wrote:> > >> > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house.> > >> > > G. Singh> > >> > >> > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar"bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where youhave> > > found, all> > > > nine planets signifying one house .> > > >> > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybejust> > > once in> > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962with 7> > > Planets> > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not> happen,> > > but> > > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in suchrare> > > example.> > > >> > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, andeven> if> > > you> > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare> example> > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KPReaders,> and> > > other> > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to studysuch> rare> > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively" .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com, "sudhagarceg"<sudhagarceg@>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sirs,> > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. Insome> charts> > > i> > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house...FOr> example> > > all> > > > the> > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart allthe 9> > > planets> > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean?> > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will getaccidents in all> the> > > > > periods?> > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luckand comfort> in> > > > > all the periods?> > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem> effectively.> > > > > Thank you sirs.> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 2, 2009 Dear Sudhagar Jee, Thank you for your reply. I am interested to study such mysterious charts. Of course for learning. I shall erect the chart and see. With regards. Dr. Luther Rath sudhagarceg <sudhagarceg Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 11:23:04 AM Re: i Respected Dr.Lutther Rath,That given birth details is mine in which all the nine plantes signified 8th house. Birth details are as belowDOB : 18,November, 1984TOB : 15:27POB : Gobichettipalayam (77E27,11N38)@gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sudhagarji,> I hope it is your good name. I beg excuse if I am wrong.> Kindly send the birth detals of the person in whose chart all 9 planets signify VIII. Some points may be brought to the table of the group, why he should not meet accidents in all periods. There is no point in just saying they signify VIII. One of the senior members may take up the case to enlighten what is what. I request every senior member who has the answer.There may be very many things in the chart to learn. We may be able to have an idea why a planet signifying a house does not give the result.> It's my sincere request to all to be involved in the mater.> With due regards to all members.> Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> @. ..> Friday, January 30, 2009 10:05:37 PM> Re: i> > > > Dear Sudhir,> > On what base do you feel that he is still trying to get married. Please> explain this.> > Those who are fortunate to have long Life, have done good deeds in their> previous Lives, which is why we must respect them.> > I agree with Shri Raichurji. But why you disagree has to be explained> point wise, with astrological pointers.> > As far as Shri Raichurji is concerned, there is nothing to prove, for> indeed any person having all planets signifying 11th house, would be> certainly consiered the most fortunate.> > You must explain your comments, in light of above.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > @gro ups.com, "sudhir" <taurus.sudhir@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Raichur> >> > I do not agree. May be he is trying to get married yet.> >> > Instead I feel you are the most fortunate man to have long life> >> > Regards> >> > Sudhir> > Consulting astrologer> >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -\> --------> >> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----> > Raichur-a-r> > @gro ups.com> > Friday, January 30, 2009 12:33 PM> > Re: Re: i> >> >> > Congratulations. You are the most fortunate man. COULD you send us the> Birth details, so wen keep on record, such a chart> >> >> > raichur anant> >> >> > --- On Fri, 30/1/09, hbk1hbk_2100 hbk1hbk_2100@ ... wrote:> >> > hbk1hbk_2100 hbk1hbk_2100@ ...> > Re: i> > @gro ups.com> > Friday, 30 January, 2009, 1:53 AM> >> >> > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house.> >> > G. Singh> >> >> > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar"> > bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote:> > >> > >> > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you have> > found, all> > > nine planets signifying one house .> > >> > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe just> > once in> > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 with 7> > Planets> > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not happen,> > but> > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in such rare> > example.> > >> > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and even if> > you> > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare example> > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP Readers, and> > other> > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study such rare> > > charts " to learn KP system effectively" .> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > @gro ups.com, "sudhagarceg"> > <sudhagarceg@ >> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sirs,> > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In some charts> > i> > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. FOr example> > all> > > the> > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all the 9> > planets> > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean?> > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents in all the> > > > periods?> > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and comfort in> > > > all the periods?> > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem effectively.> > > > Thank you sirs.> > > >> > >> >> >> >> > ------------ --------- --------- ------> >> > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 2, 2009 Dear Sujata ji, Previously also you have mis-spelt my name on 3-4 occasions. Just reminding you my good name is " Bhaskar ". I kept mum previously but has been repeating too many times. With due respects to you, Bhaskar. , sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote:>> Dear Mr Raichur> Kindly clarify as to why Bhsker never met with an accident/ illhealth.> Regards> sujata> > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Raichur-a-r raichurar wrote:> Raichur-a-r raichurar Re: Re: i> , "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish Monday, 2 February, 2009, 2:36 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > dear members> find the horoscope redrawn as per kpsw of mine. It is zipped for transmission> > > raichur anant > > --- On Sun, 1/2/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> Re: i> @gro ups.com> Sunday, 1 February, 2009, 7:32 PM> > Dear Singh,> > I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but just 2> astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is because most> of the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. But if you wish> you may try.> > 28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( near> Vijaywada,Andhra) .> > You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every where.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > @gro ups.com, "hbk1hbk_2100"> <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...>> wrote:> >> > Hello Bhaskar,> >> > Could you please provide me with your birth data.> >> > Regards> >> > G. Singh> >> > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Singh ji,> > >> > > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been admitted> > to> > > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas Grace. See> > these> > > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular house (> > > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too, therefore> > one> > > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where in such> > cases> > > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic houses figuring> > in> > > the calculations respectively.> > >> > > Unless its a pure case.> > >> > > regards/Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > @gro ups.com, "hbk1hbk_2100"> <hbk1hbk_2100@>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house.> > > >> > > > G. Singh> > > >> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar"> bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you> have> > > > found, all> > > > > nine planets signifying one house .> > > > >> > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe> just> > > > once in> > > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962> with 7> > > > Planets> > > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not> > happen,> > > > but> > > > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in such> rare> > > > example.> > > > >> > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and> even> > if> > > > you> > > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare> > example> > > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP> Readers,> > and> > > > other> > > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study> such> > rare> > > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively" .> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > @gro ups.com, "sudhagarceg"> <sudhagarceg@>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Sirs,> > > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In> some> > charts> > > > i> > > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house...> FOr> > example> > > > all> > > > > the> > > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all> the 9> > > > planets> > > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean?> > > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get> accidents in all> > the> > > > > > periods?> > > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck> and comfort> > in> > > > > > all the periods?> > > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem> > effectively.> > > > > > Thank you sirs.> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 2, 2009 Sujata, Pl. refer the excellent book,ASTROSECRETS & K.P.,my the late Mr.M.P. Shanmugham,and edited by Mr.K.Subramaniam...if in one's Birth Chart,the s/l of the VIIIth signiofies I,V IX & XI...one will never meet with an accident in his life... L.Y.Rao. sujata das <sujatadash1 Sent: Monday, 2 February, 2009 6:48:49 PMRe: Re: i Dear Mr RaichurKindly clarify as to why Bhsker never met with an accident/ illhealth.Regardssujata--- On Mon, 2/2/09, Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote: Raichur-a-r <raichurar >Re: Re: i@gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>Monday, 2 February, 2009, 2:36 PM dear members find the horoscope redrawn as per kpsw of mine. It is zipped for transmission raichur anant --- On Sun, 1/2/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> Re: i@gro ups.comSunday, 1 February, 2009, 7:32 PMDear Singh,I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but just 2astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is because mostof the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. But if you wishyou may try.28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( nearVijaywada,Andhra) .You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every where.regards/Bhaskar. .@gro ups.com, "hbk1hbk_2100"<hbk1hbk_2100@ ...>wrote:>> Hello Bhaskar,>> Could you please provide me with your birth data.>> Regards>> G. Singh>> --- In @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:> >> >> > Dear Singh ji,> >> > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been admitted> to> > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas Grace. See> these> > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular house (> > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too, therefore> one> > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where in such> cases> > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic houses figuring> in> > the calculations respectively.> >> > Unless its a pure case.> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> >> >> > @gro ups.com, "hbk1hbk_2100"<hbk1hbk_2100@>> > wrote:> > >> > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house.> > >> > > G. Singh> > >> > >> > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar"bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where youhave> > > found, all> > > > nine planets signifying one house .> > > >> > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybejust> > > once in> > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962with 7> > > Planets> > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not> happen,> > > but> > > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in suchrare> > > example.> > > >> > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, andeven> if> > > you> > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare> example> > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KPReaders,> and> > > other> > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to studysuch> rare> > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively" .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com, "sudhagarceg"<sudhagarceg@>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sirs,> > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. Insome> charts> > > i> > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house...FOr> example> > > all> > > > the> > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart allthe 9> > > planets> > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean?> > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will getaccidents in all> the> > > > > periods?> > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luckand comfort> in> > > > > all the periods?> > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem> effectively.> > > > > Thank you sirs.> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 2, 2009 PRANAM ALL,I analysed the horoscope of sri bhaskar on 02-02-2009 @19.38 hrs 16.14N, 80.35ERuling Planets:Asc : sun kethuMoon : mar vend.l moonNow bhaskarji`s Asc is in sun ven sun as per the recorded time. At the time of judgement ascis occupied by sat both rahu and kethu represnts him. so final r.p are sun, mars, ven, rah,kethu.as mars is moon sign lord and aspecting it from the star of sun another r.p i think he is strong. mars wil be Asc sub lord and rahu s-s lord. (i left kethu because he rules his brth star.) for confirmation i opened k.p 2 reader which give 55 on the right side page.(asking the query who rules his asc sub) 55 falls in mer,rah,mars. HIS BRTH TIME COMES TO 10.21 AM.NOW ASC csl Mars is in kethu star and sub of rahu. kethu in 6th and rahu is in 12th with mars in kethu star. So asc csl is clearly signifying 6,12. But please note that 6,8,12 csl is mercury l/o 2,11 in 10 (no planet in mer stars ) in the star of rahu and sub of sat(no planets in sat stars). rahu in 12 sat in 5 in sun star l/o asc in 10. So mer is signifying 2,10,11,12 at star level and 1,5,7,10 at sub level. So 6,8,and 12th cusps are promising favourable results.Sun,mer (l/o1,l/o11)are in sextile with asc promising good health and fast recovery.As 6th csl is mercury in a dual sign good at sub level he does not having any major healthproblems.mercury wil give fast recovery from all minor health problems.Bhaskarji this is my analysis i may be wrong . if u can give some of your past events to tally your BT it will be good.learned members, correct me if i am wrong.regards.vgr --- On Mon, 2/2/09, sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote:sujata das <sujatadash1Re: Re: i Date: Monday, 2 February, 2009, 6:48 PM Dear Mr RaichurKindly clarify as to why Bhsker never met with an accident/ illhealth.Regardssujata--- On Mon, 2/2/09, Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote:Raichur-a-r <raichurar >Re: Re: i@gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>Monday, 2 February, 2009, 2:36 PM dear members find the horoscope redrawn as per kpsw of mine. It is zipped for transmission raichur anant --- On Sun, 1/2/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> Re: i@gro ups.comSunday, 1 February, 2009, 7:32 PMDear Singh,I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but just 2astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is because mostof the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. But if you wishyou may try.28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( nearVijaywada,Andhra) .You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every where.regards/Bhaskar. .@gro ups.com, "hbk1hbk_2100"<hbk1hbk_2100@ ...>wrote:>> Hello Bhaskar,>> Could you please provide me with your birth data.>> Regards>> G. Singh>> --- In @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:> >> >> > Dear Singh ji,> >> > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been admitted> to> > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas Grace. See> these> > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular house (> > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too, therefore> one> > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where in such> cases> > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic houses figuring> in> > the calculations respectively.> >> > Unless its a pure case.> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> >> >> > @gro ups.com, "hbk1hbk_2100"<hbk1hbk_2100@>> > wrote:> > >> > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house.> > >> > > G. Singh> > >> > >> > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar"bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where youhave> > > found, all> > > > nine planets signifying one house .> > > >> > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybejust> > > once in> > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962with 7> > > Planets> > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not> happen,> > > but> > > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in suchrare> > > example.> > > >> > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, andeven> if> > > you> > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare> example> > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KPReaders,> and> > > other> > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to studysuch> rare> > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively" .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com, "sudhagarceg"<sudhagarceg@>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sirs,> > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. Insome> charts> > > i> > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house...FOr> example> > > all> > > > the> > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart allthe 9> > > planets> > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean?> > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will getaccidents in all> the> > > > > periods?> > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luckand comfort> in> > > > > all the periods?> > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem> effectively.> > > > > Thank you sirs.> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 2, 2009 Shri Yogeshrao ji, He may be a very strict person and at times not comfortable to read, because of his rude and blunt utterabces , but he is a great astrologer no doubt about this. He provides references at the click of a button at the right times, which shows he is well read and knows what he is into. I know about this rule which he has just mentioned, and I appreciate him, for locating this and putting this for the other members who do not remember this. Great work, and a great presence of Shri Yogesh ji in this great forum. regards/Bhaskar. , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: > > Sujata, > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Pl. refer the excellent book,ASTROSECRETS & K.P.,my the late Mr.M.P. Shanmugham,and edited by Mr.K.Subramaniam...if in one's Birth Chart,the s/l of the VIIIth signiofies I,V IX & XI...one will never meet with an accident in his life... > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â L.Y.Rao. > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â > > > > > ________________________________ > sujata das sujatadash1 > > Monday, 2 February, 2009 6:48:49 PM > Re: Re: i > > > Dear Mr Raichur > Kindly clarify as to why Bhsker never met with an accident/ illhealth. > Regards > sujata > > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Raichur-a-r raichurar > wrote: > > Raichur-a-r raichurar > > Re: Re: i > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > Monday, 2 February, 2009, 2:36 PM > > > dear members > find the horoscope redrawn as per kpsw of mine. It is zipped for transmission > > > raichur anant > > --- On Sun, 1/2/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > Re: i > @gro ups.com > Sunday, 1 February, 2009, 7:32 PM > > > Dear Singh, > > I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but just 2 > astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is because most > of the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. But if you wish > you may try. > > 28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( near > Vijaywada,Andhra) . > > You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every where. > > regards/Bhaskar. . > > > > > @gro ups.com, " hbk1hbk_2100 " > <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...> > wrote: > > > > Hello Bhaskar, > > > > Could you please provide me with your birth data. > > > > Regards > > > > G. Singh > > > > --- In > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Singh ji, > > > > > > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been admitted > > to > > > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas Grace. See > > these > > > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular house ( > > > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too, therefore > > one > > > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where in such > > cases > > > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic houses figuring > > in > > > the calculations respectively. > > > > > > Unless its a pure case. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, > " hbk1hbk_2100 " > <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house. > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you > have > > > > found, all > > > > > nine planets signifying one house . > > > > > > > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe > just > > > > once in > > > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 > with 7 > > > > Planets > > > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not > > happen, > > > > but > > > > > as per > Traditional this signification may be there in such > rare > > > > example. > > > > > > > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and > even > > if > > > > you > > > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare > > example > > > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP > Readers, > > and > > > > other > > > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study > such > > rare > > > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " sudhagarceg " > <sudhagarceg@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In > some > > charts > > > > i > > > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house... > FOr > > example > > > > all > > > > > the > > > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all > the 9 > > > > planets > > > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > > > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get > accidents in all > > the > > > > > > periods? > > > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck > and comfort > > in > > > > > > all the periods? > > > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem > > effectively. > > > > > > Thank you sirs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 2, 2009 Dear Pavanji, I have rectified my birth time to around 15.00am or 15.30 " maximum . I was married on 9th May 1984. One Female child born on 26th May 1985 One male child born on 16th November 1988 Hope this helps. regards/Bhaskar. , vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 wrote: > > PRANAM ALL, > > I analysed the horoscope of sri bhaskar on 02-02-2009 @19.38 hrs 16.14N, 80.35E > > Ruling Planets: > > Asc : sun kethu > > Moon : mar ven > > d.l  moon > > > Now bhaskarji`s Asc is in sun ven sun as per the recorded time. At the time of judgement ascis occupied by sat both rahu and kethu represnts him. so final r.p are sun, mars, ven, rah,kethu.as mars is moon sign lord and aspecting it from the star of sun another r.p i think he is strong. mars wil be Asc sub lord and rahu s-s lord. (i left kethu because he rules his brth star.) for confirmation i opened k.p 2 reader which give 55 on the right side page. > (asking the query who rules his asc sub) 55 falls in mer,rah,mars. > > HIS BRTH TIME COMES TO 10.21 AM. > > NOW ASC csl Mars is in kethu star and sub of rahu. kethu in 6th and rahu is in 12th with mars in kethu star. So asc csl is clearly signifying 6,12. But please note that 6,8,12 csl is mercury l/o 2,11 in 10 (no planet in mer stars ) in the star of rahu and sub of sat(no planets in sat stars). rahu in 12 sat in 5 in sun star l/o asc in 10. So mer is signifying 2,10,11,12 at star level and 1,5,7,10 at sub level. So 6,8,and 12th cusps are promising favourable results. > Sun,mer (l/o1,l/o11)are in sextile with asc promising good health and fast recovery. > > As 6th csl is mercury in a dual sign good at sub level he does not having any major health > problems.mercury wil give fast recovery from all minor health problems. > > Bhaskarji this is my analysis i may be wrong . if u can give some of your past events to tally your BT it will be good. > > learned members, correct me if i am wrong. > > regards. > > vgr > >  > > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, sujata das sujatadash1 wrote: > sujata das sujatadash1 > Re: Re: i > > Monday, 2 February, 2009, 6:48 PM > > > > > Dear Mr Raichur > Kindly clarify as to why Bhsker never met with an accident/ illhealth. > Regards > sujata > > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Raichur-a-r raichurar > wrote: > Raichur-a-r raichurar > > Re: Re: i > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > Monday, 2 February, 2009, 2:36 PM > > > dear members > find the horoscope redrawn as per kpsw of mine. It is zipped for transmission > > > raichur anant > > --- On Sun, 1/2/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > Re: i > @gro ups.com > Sunday, 1 February, 2009, 7:32 PM > > Dear Singh, > > I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but just 2 > astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is because most > of the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. But if you wish > you may try. > > 28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( near > Vijaywada,Andhra) . > > You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every where. > > regards/Bhaskar. . > > > > > @gro ups.com, " hbk1hbk_2100 " > <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...> > wrote: > > > > Hello Bhaskar, > > > > Could you please provide me with your birth data. > > > > Regards > > > > G. Singh > > > > --- In > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Singh ji, > > > > > > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been admitted > > to > > > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas Grace. See > > these > > > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular house ( > > > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too, therefore > > one > > > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where in such > > cases > > > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic houses figuring > > in > > > the calculations respectively. > > > > > > Unless its a pure case. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, > " hbk1hbk_2100 " > <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house. > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you > have > > > > found, all > > > > > nine planets signifying one house . > > > > > > > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe > just > > > > once in > > > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 > with 7 > > > > Planets > > > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not > > happen, > > > > but > > > > > as per > Traditional this signification may be there in such > rare > > > > example. > > > > > > > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and > even > > if > > > > you > > > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare > > example > > > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP > Readers, > > and > > > > other > > > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study > such > > rare > > > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " sudhagarceg " > <sudhagarceg@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In > some > > charts > > > > i > > > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house... > FOr > > example > > > > all > > > > > the > > > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all > the 9 > > > > planets > > > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > > > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get > accidents in all > > the > > > > > > periods? > > > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck > and comfort > > in > > > > > > all the periods? > > > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem > > effectively. > > > > > > Thank you sirs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2009 Dear VGR jee, I appreciate your analysis. Thanks. Dr. Luther Rath vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 9:03:14 PMRe: Re: i PRANAM ALL,I analysed the horoscope of sri bhaskar on 02-02-2009 @19.38 hrs 16.14N, 80.35ERuling Planets:Asc : sun kethuMoon : mar vend.l moonNow bhaskarji`s Asc is in sun ven sun as per the recorded time. At the time of judgement ascis occupied by sat both rahu and kethu represnts him. so final r.p are sun, mars, ven, rah,kethu.as mars is moon sign lord and aspecting it from the star of sun another r.p i think he is strong. mars wil be Asc sub lord and rahu s-s lord. (i left kethu because he rules his brth star.) for confirmation i opened k.p 2 reader which give 55 on the right side page.(asking the query who rules his asc sub) 55 falls in mer,rah,mars. HIS BRTH TIME COMES TO 10.21 AM.NOW ASC csl Mars is in kethu star and sub of rahu. kethu in 6th and rahu is in 12th with mars in kethu star. So asc csl is clearly signifying 6,12. But please note that 6,8,12 csl is mercury l/o 2,11 in 10 (no planet in mer stars ) in the star of rahu and sub of sat(no planets in sat stars). rahu in 12 sat in 5 in sun star l/o asc in 10. So mer is signifying 2,10,11,12 at star level and 1,5,7,10 at sub level. So 6,8,and 12th cusps are promising favourable results.Sun,mer (l/o1,l/o11) are in sextile with asc promising good health and fast recovery.As 6th csl is mercury in a dual sign good at sub level he does not having any major healthproblems.mercury wil give fast recovery from all minor health problems.Bhaskarji this is my analysis i may be wrong . if u can give some of your past events to tally your BT it will be good.learned members, correct me if i am wrong.regards.vgr --- On Mon, 2/2/09, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote: sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>Re: Re: i@gro ups.comMonday, 2 February, 2009, 6:48 PM Dear Mr RaichurKindly clarify as to why Bhsker never met with an accident/ illhealth.Regardssujata--- On Mon, 2/2/09, Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote: Raichur-a-r <raichurar >Re: Re: i@gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>Monday, 2 February, 2009, 2:36 PM dear members find the horoscope redrawn as per kpsw of mine. It is zipped for transmission raichur anant --- On Sun, 1/2/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> Re: i@gro ups.comSunday, 1 February, 2009, 7:32 PMDear Singh,I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but just 2astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is because mostof the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. But if you wishyou may try.28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( nearVijaywada,Andhra) .You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every where.regards/Bhaskar. .@gro ups.com, "hbk1hbk_2100"<hbk1hbk_2100@ ...>wrote:>> Hello Bhaskar,>> Could you please provide me with your birth data.>> Regards>> G. Singh>> --- In @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:> >> >> > Dear Singh ji,> >> > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been admitted> to> > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas Grace. See> these> > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular house (> > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too, therefore> one> > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where in such> cases> > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic houses figuring> in> > the calculations respectively.> >> > Unless its a pure case.> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> >> >> > @gro ups.com, "hbk1hbk_2100"<hbk1hbk_2100@>> > wrote:> > >> > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house.> > >> > > G. Singh> > >> > >> > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar"bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where youhave> > > found, all> > > > nine planets signifying one house .> > > >> > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybejust> > > once in> > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962with 7> > > Planets> > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not> happen,> > > but> > > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in suchrare> > > example.> > > >> > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, andeven> if> > > you> > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare> example> > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KPReaders,> and> > > other> > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to studysuch> rare> > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively" .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com, "sudhagarceg"<sudhagarceg@>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sirs,> > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. Insome> charts> > > i> > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house...FOr> example> > > all> > > > the> > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart allthe 9> > > planets> > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean?> > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will getaccidents in all> the> > > > > periods?> > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luckand comfort> in> > > > > all the periods?> > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem> effectively.> > > > > Thank you sirs.> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2009 Here's another chart (mine) with all nine planets point to 8th house.... By coincidence, my name is Sudhakar too. Have attempted a BTR calculation which is also added in the attached document Best Sudhakar On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote: Dear Sudhagar Jee, Thank you for your reply. I am interested to study such mysterious charts. Of course for learning. I shall erect the chart and see. With regards. Dr. Luther Rath sudhagarceg <sudhagarceg Monday, February 2, 2009 11:23:04 AM Re: i Respected Dr.Lutther Rath,That given birth details is mine in which all the nine plantes signified 8th house. Birth details are as belowDOB : 18,November, 1984TOB : 15:27POB : Gobichettipalayam (77E27,11N38) @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sudhagarji,> I hope it is your good name. I beg excuse if I am wrong. > Kindly send the birth detals of the person in whose chart all 9 planets signify VIII. Some points may be brought to the table of the group, why he should not meet accidents in all periods. There is no point in just saying they signify VIII. One of the senior members may take up the case to enlighten what is what. I request every senior member who has the answer.There may be very many things in the chart to learn. We may be able to have an idea why a planet signifying a house does not give the result. > It's my sincere request to all to be involved in the mater.> With due regards to all members.> Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > @. ..> Friday, January 30, 2009 10:05:37 PM> Re: i> > > > Dear Sudhir,> > On what base do you feel that he is still trying to get married. Please> explain this.> > Those who are fortunate to have long Life, have done good deeds in their> previous Lives, which is why we must respect them.> > I agree with Shri Raichurji. But why you disagree has to be explained> point wise, with astrological pointers.> > As far as Shri Raichurji is concerned, there is nothing to prove, for> indeed any person having all planets signifying 11th house, would be > certainly consiered the most fortunate.> > You must explain your comments, in light of above.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > @gro ups.com, " sudhir " <taurus.sudhir@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Raichur> >> > I do not agree. May be he is trying to get married yet.> >> > Instead I feel you are the most fortunate man to have long life > >> > Regards> >> > Sudhir> > Consulting astrologer> >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -\> --------> >> > > >> > -> > Raichur-a-r> > @gro ups.com> > Friday, January 30, 2009 12:33 PM > > Re: Re: i> >> >> > Congratulations. You are the most fortunate man. COULD you send us the> Birth details, so wen keep on record, such a chart> > > >> > raichur anant> >> >> > --- On Fri, 30/1/09, hbk1hbk_2100 hbk1hbk_2100@ ... wrote:> >> > hbk1hbk_2100 hbk1hbk_2100@ ...> > Re: i > > @gro ups.com> > Friday, 30 January, 2009, 1:53 AM> >> >> > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house. > >> > G. Singh> >> >> > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " > > bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > >> > >> > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you have> > found, all> > > nine planets signifying one house .> > >> > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe just > > once in> > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 with 7> > Planets> > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not happen,> > but > > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in such rare> > example.> > >> > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and even if> > you > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare example> > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP Readers, and> > other> > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study such rare> > > charts " to learn KP system effectively " .> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > @gro ups.com, " sudhagarceg " > > <sudhagarceg@ >> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sirs,> > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In some charts> > i > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. FOr example> > all> > > the> > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all the 9> > planets > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean?> > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents in all the> > > > periods?> > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and comfort in> > > > all the periods?> > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem effectively.> > > > Thank you sirs.> > > >> > >> > > >> >> > ------------ --------- --------- ------> >> > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2009 Dear Mr.Bhaskar,If you permit, I would like to some analysis of your chart.Regards,AjoySent on my BlackBerry® from Vodafone Essar"Bhaskar" Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:54:32 -0000 Re: i Dear Pavanji, I have rectified my birth time to around 15.00am or 15.30 " maximum . I was married on 9th May 1984. One Female child born on 26th May 1985 One male child born on 16th November 1988 Hope this helps. regards/Bhaskar. , vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 wrote: > > PRANAM ALL, > > I analysed the horoscope of sri bhaskar on 02-02-2009 @19.38 hrs 16.14N, 80.35E > > Ruling Planets: > > Asc : sun kethu > > Moon : mar ven > > d.l  moon > > > Now bhaskarji`s Asc is in sun ven sun as per the recorded time. At the time of judgement ascis occupied by sat both rahu and kethu represnts him. so final r.p are sun, mars, ven, rah,kethu.as mars is moon sign lord and aspecting it from the star of sun another r.p i think he is strong. mars wil be Asc sub lord and rahu s-s lord. (i left kethu because he rules his brth star.) for confirmation i opened k.p 2 reader which give 55 on the right side page. > (asking the query who rules his asc sub) 55 falls in mer,rah,mars. > > HIS BRTH TIME COMES TO 10.21 AM. > > NOW ASC csl Mars is in kethu star and sub of rahu. kethu in 6th and rahu is in 12th with mars in kethu star. So asc csl is clearly signifying 6,12. But please note that 6,8,12 csl is mercury l/o 2,11 in 10 (no planet in mer stars ) in the star of rahu and sub of sat(no planets in sat stars). rahu in 12 sat in 5 in sun star l/o asc in 10. So mer is signifying 2,10,11,12 at star level and 1,5,7,10 at sub level. So 6,8,and 12th cusps are promising favourable results. > Sun,mer (l/o1,l/o11)are in sextile with asc promising good health and fast recovery. > > As 6th csl is mercury in a dual sign good at sub level he does not having any major health > problems.mercury wil give fast recovery from all minor health problems. > > Bhaskarji this is my analysis i may be wrong . if u can give some of your past events to tally your BT it will be good. > > learned members, correct me if i am wrong. > > regards. > > vgr > >  > > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, sujata das sujatadash1 wrote: > sujata das sujatadash1 > Re: Re: i > > Monday, 2 February, 2009, 6:48 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr Raichur > Kindly clarify as to why Bhsker never met with an accident/ illhealth. > Regards > sujata > > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Raichur-a-r raichurar > wrote: > Raichur-a-r raichurar > > Re: Re: i > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > Monday, 2 February, 2009, 2:36 PM > > > > > > > > > > dear members > find the horoscope redrawn as per kpsw of mine. It is zipped for transmission > > > raichur anant > > --- On Sun, 1/2/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > Re: i > @gro ups.com > Sunday, 1 February, 2009, 7:32 PM > > Dear Singh, > > I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but just 2 > astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is because most > of the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. But if you wish > you may try. > > 28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( near > Vijaywada,Andhra) . > > You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every where. > > regards/Bhaskar. . > > > > > @gro ups.com, " hbk1hbk_2100 " > <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...> > wrote: > > > > Hello Bhaskar, > > > > Could you please provide me with your birth data. > > > > Regards > > > > G. Singh > > > > > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Singh ji, > > > > > > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been admitted > > to > > > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas Grace. See > > these > > > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular house ( > > > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too, therefore > > one > > > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where in such > > cases > > > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic houses figuring > > in > > > the calculations respectively. > > > > > > Unless its a pure case. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, > " hbk1hbk_2100 " > <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house. > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you > have > > > > found, all > > > > > nine planets signifying one house . > > > > > > > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe > just > > > > once in > > > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 > with 7 > > > > Planets > > > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not > > happen, > > > > but > > > > > as per > Traditional this signification may be there in such > rare > > > > example. > > > > > > > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and > even > > if > > > > you > > > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare > > example > > > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP > Readers, > > and > > > > other > > > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study > such > > rare > > > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " sudhagarceg " > <sudhagarceg@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In > some > > charts > > > > i > > > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house... > FOr > > example > > > > all > > > > > the > > > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all > the 9 > > > > planets > > > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > > > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get > accidents in all > > the > > > > > > periods? > > > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck > and comfort > > in > > > > > > all the periods? > > > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem > > effectively. > > > > > > Thank you sirs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2009 Dear Ajoy Bhai, Please go ahead. regards/Bhaskar. , ajoy_matchless wrote: > > > Dear Mr.Bhaskar, > > If you permit, I would like to some analysis of your chart. > > Regards, > Ajoy > Sent on my BlackBerry® from Vodafone Essar > > > " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish > > Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:54:32 > > Re: i > > > > Dear Pavanji, > > I have rectified my birth time to around 15.00am or 15.30 " maximum . > > I was married on 9th May 1984. > > One Female child born on 26th May 1985 > > One male child born on 16th November 1988 > > Hope this helps. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > , vgr pavan vgr_pavan1@ wrote: > > > > PRANAM ALL, > > > > I analysed the horoscope of sri bhaskar on 02-02-2009 @19.38 hrs > 16.14N, 80.35E > > > > Ruling Planets: > > > > Asc : sun kethu > > > > Moon : mar ven > > > > d.l  moon > > > > > > Now bhaskarji`s Asc is in sun ven sun as per the recorded time. At the > time of judgement ascis occupied by sat both rahu and kethu represnts > him. so final r.p are sun, mars, ven, rah,kethu.as mars is moon > sign lord and aspecting it from the star of sun another r.p i think he > is strong. mars wil be Asc sub lord and rahu s-s lord. (i left kethu > because he rules his brth star.) for confirmation i opened k.p 2 reader > which give 55 on the right side page. > > (asking the query who rules his asc sub) 55 falls in mer,rah,mars. > > > > HIS BRTH TIME COMES TO 10.21 AM. > > > > NOW ASC csl Mars is in kethu star and sub of rahu. kethu in 6th and > rahu is in 12th with mars in kethu star. So asc csl is clearly > signifying 6,12. But please note that 6,8,12 csl is mercury l/o 2,11 in > 10 (no planet in mer stars ) in the star of rahu and sub of sat(no > planets in sat stars). rahu in 12 sat in 5 in sun star l/o asc in 10. So > mer is signifying 2,10,11,12 at star level and 1,5,7,10 at sub level. So > 6,8,and 12th cusps are promising favourable results. > > Sun,mer (l/o1,l/o11)are in sextile with asc promising good health and > fast recovery. > > > > As 6th csl is mercury in a dual sign good at sub level he does not > having any major health > > problems.mercury wil give fast recovery from all minor health > problems. > > > > Bhaskarji this is my analysis i may be wrong . if u can give some > of your past events to tally your BT it will be good. > > > > learned members, correct me if i am wrong. > > > > regards. > > > > vgr > > > >  > > > > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, sujata das sujatadash1@ wrote: > > sujata das sujatadash1@ > > Re: Re: i > > > > Monday, 2 February, 2009, 6:48 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr Raichur > > Kindly clarify as to why Bhsker never met with an accident/ illhealth. > > Regards > > sujata > > > > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Raichur-a-r raichurar > wrote: > > Raichur-a-r raichurar > > > Re: Re: i > > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. > in> > > Monday, 2 February, 2009, 2:36 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear members > > find the horoscope redrawn as per kpsw of mine. It is zipped for > transmission > > > > > > raichur anant > > > > --- On Sun, 1/2/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > Re: i > > @gro ups.com > > Sunday, 1 February, 2009, 7:32 PM > > > > Dear Singh, > > > > I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but just 2 > > astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is because > most > > of the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. But if you wish > > you may try. > > > > 28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( near > > Vijaywada,Andhra) . > > > > You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every where. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. . > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hello Bhaskar, > > > > > > Could you please provide me with your birth data. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > --- In > > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Singh ji, > > > > > > > > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been > admitted > > > to > > > > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas Grace. See > > > these > > > > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular house > ( > > > > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too, therefore > > > one > > > > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where in such > > > cases > > > > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic houses > figuring > > > in > > > > the calculations respectively. > > > > > > > > Unless its a pure case. > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, > > " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house. > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " > > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you > > have > > > > > found, all > > > > > > nine planets signifying one house . > > > > > > > > > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe > > just > > > > > once in > > > > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 > > with 7 > > > > > Planets > > > > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not > > > happen, > > > > > but > > > > > > as per > > Traditional this signification may be there in such > > rare > > > > > example. > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and > > even > > > if > > > > > you > > > > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare > > > example > > > > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP > > Readers, > > > and > > > > > other > > > > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study > > such > > > rare > > > > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " sudhagarceg " > > <sudhagarceg@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > > > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In > > some > > > charts > > > > > i > > > > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house... > > FOr > > > example > > > > > all > > > > > > the > > > > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all > > the 9 > > > > > planets > > > > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > > > > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get > > accidents in all > > > the > > > > > > > periods? > > > > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck > > and comfort > > > in > > > > > > > all the periods? > > > > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem > > > effectively. > > > > > > > Thank you sirs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2009 Dear Pavan ji, A good effort on Your part. A small observation - At time of Your Judgement the RP's were as under - Ascendant lord - The Sun Moon starLord - Venus Moon raashi Lord - Mars Day Lord - Moon - (Kethu ) Ascendant star lord - Kethu As per my recorded time of 10.14 am the equation stands as under - Leo ascendant - Raashi lord - Sun, StarLord Venus, SubLord - Sun. The RP's are used only for those factors on which we are doubtful in the chart. Here the Lagna Lord is not doubtful in my natal Chart, because Lagna is at 15 degrees so no question of Lagna changing . Therefore what you are looking for confirmation , is the StarLord and the Sub lord. Since we have not used any of the above RP's for confirming the Lagna Lord, even the Sun stays in the RP's. My question to you now, is why dont you allow the Sun from the RP's to be used as the SubLord for the ascendant which in any case is The Sun, and confirms it. Of course Venus confirms the StarLord as it is. Thus the timings does not require any rectification unless one wishes to confirm the SubSubLord and fine tune it. But in any case, what happened to the Sun amongst the RP's you have used for rectification purposes ? regards, Bhaskar. , vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 wrote:>> PRANAM ALL,> > I analysed the horoscope of sri bhaskar on 02-02-2009 @19.38 hrs 16.14N, 80.35E> > Ruling Planets:> > Asc : sun kethu> > Moon : mar ven> > d.l  moon> > > Now bhaskarji`s Asc is in sun ven sun as per the recorded time. At the time of judgement ascis occupied by sat both rahu and kethu represnts him. so final r.p are sun, mars, ven, rah,kethu.as mars is moon sign lord and aspecting it from the star of sun another r.p i think he is strong. mars wil be Asc sub lord and rahu s-s lord. (i left kethu because he rules his brth star.) for confirmation i opened k.p 2 reader which give 55 on the right side page.> (asking the query who rules his asc sub) 55 falls in mer,rah,mars. > > HIS BRTH TIME COMES TO 10.21 AM.> > NOW ASC csl Mars is in kethu star and sub of rahu. kethu in 6th and rahu is in 12th with mars in kethu star. So asc csl is clearly signifying 6,12. But please note that 6,8,12 csl is mercury l/o 2,11 in 10 (no planet in mer stars ) in the star of rahu and sub of sat(no planets in sat stars). rahu in 12 sat in 5 in sun star l/o asc in 10. So mer is signifying 2,10,11,12 at star level and 1,5,7,10 at sub level. So 6,8,and 12th cusps are promising favourable results.> Sun,mer (l/o1,l/o11)are in sextile with asc promising good health and fast recovery.> > As 6th csl is mercury in a dual sign good at sub level he does not having any major health> problems.mercury wil give fast recovery from all minor health problems.> > Bhaskarji this is my analysis i may be wrong . if u can give some of your past events to tally your BT it will be good.> > learned members, correct me if i am wrong.> > regards.> > vgr> >  > > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, sujata das sujatadash1 wrote:> sujata das sujatadash1 Re: Re: i> > Monday, 2 February, 2009, 6:48 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr Raichur> Kindly clarify as to why Bhsker never met with an accident/ illhealth.> Regards> sujata> > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Raichur-a-r raichurar > wrote:> Raichur-a-r raichurar >> Re: Re: i> @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> Monday, 2 February, 2009, 2:36 PM> > > > > > > > > > dear members> find the horoscope redrawn as per kpsw of mine. It is zipped for transmission> > > raichur anant > > --- On Sun, 1/2/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> Re: i> @gro ups.com> Sunday, 1 February, 2009, 7:32 PM> > Dear Singh,> > I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but just 2> astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is because most> of the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. But if you wish> you may try.> > 28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( near> Vijaywada,Andhra) .> > You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every where.> > regards/Bhaskar. .> > > > > @gro ups.com, "hbk1hbk_2100"> <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...>> wrote:> >> > Hello Bhaskar,> >> > Could you please provide me with your birth data.> >> > Regards> >> > G. Singh> >> > --- In> @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Singh ji,> > >> > > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been admitted> > to> > > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas Grace. See> > these> > > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular house (> > > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too, therefore> > one> > > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where in such> > cases> > > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic houses figuring> > in> > > the calculations respectively.> > >> > > Unless its a pure case.> > >> > > regards/Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > @gro ups.com,> "hbk1hbk_2100"> <hbk1hbk_2100@>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house.> > > >> > > > G. Singh> > > >> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar"> bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you> have> > > > found, all> > > > > nine planets signifying one house .> > > > >> > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe> just> > > > once in> > > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962> with 7> > > > Planets> > > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not> > happen,> > > > but> > > > > as per> Traditional this signification may be there in such> rare> > > > example.> > > > >> > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and> even> > if> > > > you> > > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare> > example> > > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP> Readers,> > and> > > > other> > > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study> such> > rare> > > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively" .> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > @gro ups.com, "sudhagarceg"> <sudhagarceg@>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Sirs,> >> > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In> some> > charts> > > > i> > > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house...> FOr> > example> > > > all> > > > > the> > > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all> the 9> > > > planets> > > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean?> > > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get> accidents in all> > the> > > > > > periods?> > > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck> and comfort> > in> > > > > > all the periods?> > > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem> > effectively.> > > > > > Thank you sirs.> > > > > >> > > > >> > >> >> > >> >> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2009 Dear BHASKAR JI AND PAVAN JIHope good analysis and appeal to the same.Before trying to do the BTR immediately , if we look into the any possibilities of any connection between the star/sub lord of the Asc of natal with the RPs at the time if judgement may help us if any BTR is required at all. Its my humble thought.May be other memnbers analysis on this will take us into an one more never ending thread.Lets wait for Ajai's analysis as Bhaskar ji has given a go ahead.RegardsAdith On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Pavan ji, A good effort on Your part. A small observation - At time of Your Judgement the RP's were as under - Ascendant lord - The Sun Moon starLord - Venus Moon raashi Lord - Mars Day Lord - Moon - (Kethu ) Ascendant star lord - Kethu As per my recorded time of 10.14 am the equation stands as under - Leo ascendant - Raashi lord - Sun, StarLord Venus, SubLord - Sun. The RP's are used only for those factors on which we are doubtful in the chart. Here the Lagna Lord is not doubtful in my natal Chart, because Lagna is at 15 degrees so no question of Lagna changing . Therefore what you are looking for confirmation , is the StarLord and the Sub lord. Since we have not used any of the above RP's for confirming the Lagna Lord, even the Sun stays in the RP's. My question to you now, is why dont you allow the Sun from the RP's to be used as the SubLord for the ascendant which in any case is The Sun, and confirms it. Of course Venus confirms the StarLord as it is. Thus the timings does not require any rectification unless one wishes to confirm the SubSubLord and fine tune it. But in any case, what happened to the Sun amongst the RP's you have used for rectification purposes ? regards, Bhaskar. , vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 wrote:>> PRANAM ALL,> > I analysed the horoscope of sri bhaskar on 02-02-2009 @19.38 hrs 16.14N, 80.35E > > Ruling Planets:> > Asc : sun kethu> > Moon : mar ven> > d.l  moon> > > Now bhaskarji`s Asc is in sun ven sun as per the recorded time. At the time of judgement ascis occupied by sat both rahu and kethu represnts him. so final r.p are sun, mars, ven, rah,kethu.as mars is moon sign lord and aspecting it from the star of sun another r.p i think he is strong. mars wil be Asc sub lord and rahu s-s lord. (i left kethu because he rules his brth star.) for confirmation i opened k.p 2 reader which give 55 on the right side page. > (asking the query who rules his asc sub) 55 falls in mer,rah,mars. > > HIS BRTH TIME COMES TO 10.21 AM.> > NOW ASC csl Mars is in kethu star and sub of rahu. kethu in 6th and rahu is in 12th with mars in kethu star. So asc csl is clearly signifying 6,12. But please note that 6,8,12 csl is mercury l/o 2,11 in 10 (no planet in mer stars ) in the star of rahu and sub of sat(no planets in sat stars). rahu in 12 sat in 5 in sun star l/o asc in 10. So mer is signifying 2,10,11,12 at star level and 1,5,7,10 at sub level. So 6,8,and 12th cusps are promising favourable results. > Sun,mer (l/o1,l/o11)are in sextile with asc promising good health and fast recovery.> > As 6th csl is mercury in a dual sign good at sub level he does not having any major health> problems.mercury wil give fast recovery from all minor health problems. > > Bhaskarji this is my analysis i may be wrong . if u can give some of your past events to tally your BT it will be good.> > learned members, correct me if i am wrong. > > regards.> > vgr> >  > > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, sujata das sujatadash1 wrote:> sujata das sujatadash1 > Re: Re: i> > Monday, 2 February, 2009, 6:48 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr Raichur> Kindly clarify as to why Bhsker never met with an accident/ illhealth.> Regards> sujata> > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Raichur-a-r raichurar > wrote: > Raichur-a-r raichurar >> Re: Re: i> @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > Monday, 2 February, 2009, 2:36 PM> > > > > > > > > > dear members> find the horoscope redrawn as per kpsw of mine. It is zipped for transmission > > > raichur anant > > --- On Sun, 1/2/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > Re: i> @gro ups.com> Sunday, 1 February, 2009, 7:32 PM> > Dear Singh,> > I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but just 2 > astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is because most> of the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. But if you wish> you may try.> > 28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( near > Vijaywada,Andhra) .> > You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every where.> > regards/Bhaskar. .> > > > > @gro ups.com, " hbk1hbk_2100 " > <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...>> wrote:> >> > Hello Bhaskar,> >> > Could you please provide me with your birth data.> >> > Regards> >> > G. Singh > >> > --- In> @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Singh ji, > > >> > > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been admitted> > to> > > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas Grace. See> > these > > > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular house (> > > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too, therefore> > one> > > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where in such > > cases> > > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic houses figuring> > in> > > the calculations respectively.> > >> > > Unless its a pure case. > > >> > > regards/Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > @gro ups.com, > " hbk1hbk_2100 " > <hbk1hbk_2100@>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house.> > > >> > > > G. Singh > > > >> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " > bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you> have> > > > found, all> > > > > nine planets signifying one house . > > > > >> > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe> just> > > > once in> > > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 > with 7> > > > Planets> > > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not> > happen,> > > > but> > > > > as per> Traditional this signification may be there in such > rare> > > > example.> > > > >> > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and> even> > if> > > > you> > > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare > > example> > > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP> Readers,> > and> > > > other> > > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study > such> > rare> > > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively " .> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > @gro ups.com, " sudhagarceg " > <sudhagarceg@>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Sirs,> >> > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In> some> > charts> > > > i > > > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house...> FOr> > example> > > > all> > > > > the> > > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all > the 9> > > > planets> > > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean?> > > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get> accidents in all > > the> > > > > > periods?> > > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck> and comfort> > in> > > > > > all the periods? > > > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem> > effectively.> > > > > > Thank you sirs.> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2009 Dear Adithji, Yes . The RP's taken at time of judgement by are so very perfect by Pavanji, that actually there is no rectification required on the birth time as per my view. But my view is always open to cross examinations by the Experts. regards/Bhaskar. , " adith kasinath.g.k " <gkadithkasinath wrote: > > Dear BHASKAR JI AND PAVAN JI > > Hope good analysis and appeal to the same. > > Before trying to do the BTR immediately , if we look into the any > possibilities of any connection between the star/sub lord of the Asc of > natal with the RPs at the time if judgement may help us if any BTR is > required at all. > > Its my humble thought. > May be other memnbers analysis on this will take us into an one more never > ending thread. > > Lets wait for Ajai's analysis as Bhaskar ji has given a go ahead. > > Regards > Adith > > > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotishwrote: > > > Dear Pavan ji, > > > > A good effort on Your part. > > > > A small observation - > > > > *At time of Your Judgement the RP's were as under -* > > Ascendant lord - The Sun > > Moon starLord - Venus > > Moon raashi Lord - Mars > > Day Lord - Moon - (Kethu ) > > > > Ascendant star lord - Kethu > > > > As per my recorded time of 10.14 am the equation stands as under - > > > > Leo ascendant - Raashi lord - Sun, StarLord Venus, SubLord - Sun. > > > > *The RP's are used only for those factors on which we are doubtful in the > > chart.* Here the Lagna Lord is not doubtful in my natal Chart, because > > Lagna is at 15 degrees so no question of Lagna changing . Therefore what you > > are looking for confirmation , is the StarLord and the Sub lord. Since we > > have not used any of the above RP's for confirming the Lagna Lord, even the > > Sun stays in the RP's. My question to you now, is why dont you allow the Sun > > from the RP's to be used as the SubLord for the ascendant which in any case > > is The Sun, and confirms it. Of course Venus confirms the StarLord as it is. > > Thus the timings does not require any rectification unless one wishes to > > confirm the SubSubLord and fine tune it. > > > > But in any case, what happened to the Sun amongst the RP's you have used > > for rectification purposes ? > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , vgr pavan vgr_pavan1@ wrote: > > > > > > PRANAM ALL, > > > > > > I analysed the horoscope of sri bhaskar on 02-02-2009 @19.38 hrs > > 16.14N, 80.35E > > > > > > Ruling Planets: > > > > > > Asc : sun kethu > > > > > > Moon : mar ven > > > > > > d.l  moon > > > > > > > > > Now bhaskarji`s Asc is in sun ven sun as per the recorded time. At the > > time of judgement ascis occupied by sat both rahu and kethu represnts him. > > so final r.p are sun, mars, ven, rah,kethu.as mars is moon sign lord and > > aspecting it from the star of sun another r.p i think he is strong. mars wil > > be Asc sub lord and rahu s-s lord. (i left kethu because he rules his brth > > star.) for confirmation i opened k.p 2 reader which give 55 on the right > > side page. > > > (asking the query who rules his asc sub) 55 falls in mer,rah,mars. > > > > > > HIS BRTH TIME COMES TO 10.21 AM. > > > > > > NOW ASC csl Mars is in kethu star and sub of rahu. kethu in 6th and rahu > > is in 12th with mars in kethu star. So asc csl is clearly signifying 6,12. > > But please note that 6,8,12 csl is mercury l/o 2,11 in 10 (no planet in mer > > stars ) in the star of rahu and sub of sat(no planets in sat stars). rahu in > > 12 sat in 5 in sun star l/o asc in 10. So mer is signifying 2,10,11,12 at > > star level and 1,5,7,10 at sub level. So 6,8,and 12th cusps are promising > > favourable results. > > > Sun,mer (l/o1,l/o11)are in sextile with asc promising good health and > > fast recovery. > > > > > > As 6th csl is mercury in a dual sign good at sub level he does not having > > any major health > > > problems.mercury wil give fast recovery from all minor health problems. > > > > > > Bhaskarji this is my analysis i may be wrong . if u can give some of > > your past events to tally your BT it will be good. > > > > > > learned members, correct me if i am wrong. > > > > > > regards. > > > > > > vgr > > > > > >  > > > > > > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, sujata das sujatadash1@ wrote: > > > sujata das sujatadash1@ > > > > > Re: Re: i > > > > > > Monday, 2 February, 2009, 6:48 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr Raichur > > > Kindly clarify as to why Bhsker never met with an accident/ illhealth. > > > Regards > > > sujata > > > > > > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Raichur-a-r raichurar > wrote: > > > Raichur-a-r raichurar > > > > Re: Re: i > > > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. > > in> > > > Monday, 2 February, 2009, 2:36 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear members > > > find the horoscope redrawn as per kpsw of mine. It is zipped for > > transmission > > > > > > > > > raichur anant > > > > > > --- On Sun, 1/2/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > > Re: i > > > @gro ups.com > > > Sunday, 1 February, 2009, 7:32 PM > > > > > > Dear Singh, > > > > > > I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but just 2 > > > astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is because most > > > of the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. But if you wish > > > you may try. > > > > > > 28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( near > > > Vijaywada,Andhra) . > > > > > > You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every where. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > Could you please provide me with your birth data. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > --- In > > > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Singh ji, > > > > > > > > > > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been admitted > > > > to > > > > > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas Grace. See > > > > these > > > > > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular house ( > > > > > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too, therefore > > > > one > > > > > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where in such > > > > cases > > > > > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic houses figuring > > > > in > > > > > the calculations respectively. > > > > > > > > > > Unless its a pure case. > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, > > > " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you > > > have > > > > > > found, all > > > > > > > nine planets signifying one house . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe > > > just > > > > > > once in > > > > > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 > > > with 7 > > > > > > Planets > > > > > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not > > > > happen, > > > > > > but > > > > > > > as per > > > Traditional this signification may be there in such > > > rare > > > > > > example. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and > > > even > > > > if > > > > > > you > > > > > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare > > > > example > > > > > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP > > > Readers, > > > > and > > > > > > other > > > > > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study > > > such > > > > rare > > > > > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " sudhagarceg " > > > <sudhagarceg@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > > > > > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In > > > some > > > > charts > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house... > > > FOr > > > > example > > > > > > all > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all > > > the 9 > > > > > > planets > > > > > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > > > > > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get > > > accidents in all > > > > the > > > > > > > > periods? > > > > > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck > > > and comfort > > > > in > > > > > > > > all the periods? > > > > > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem > > > > effectively. > > > > > > > > Thank you sirs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2009 Hello Bhaskar, Let me give you my brief thoughts as I have very aggressive schedule. Rahu in your chart is in 12th house and most of your planets are connected with Rahu. But understand Rahu is in your Lagna lord Sun's sign. Sun the ruler of 1st house is in 10th house. Rahu in Leo is stronger than sun to give 1st house and 10th house results. So planets in rahu's nakshtra are giving you 10th house and 1st house results more predominantly and your health is okay. Alot depends on the analysis of the house cusp lords, but it is fruitful only if your birth time is very accurate. Also even if a planet is in 12th house but if it is close to the 1st house cusp, it will end up giving 1st house results instead of 12th house results. Now you tell me how accurate your birth time is as I don't have time for your BTR. But be careful in Rahu / Mars period especially if Rahu is transiting in Mars nakshatra at that time because these two planets can do big harm, and then you will remember me. Regards G. Singh , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Singhji, > > This is KP learnt and applied in bits, but not complete. > > 1) Can you answer why is it , that though I have all planets signifying > 6th and 12th house, due to their being placed in Constellation of Nodes, > and the Nodes occupy 6/12 axis, yet why have I never been admitted in a > hospital or face dany health problems of any worry? > > 2) Rahu has actually done very good for me. I do not accept it as a > Badhak just because you think it is placed with the badhak ? Can you > explain the astrological reason for it being a Badhaka ? > > 3) Does Jupiter does not signify any other houses ? > > 4) Where are the roles of the sublords of other planets and Cusps ? > > 5) You write that Sun, Mercury, Ketu, Mars, rahu, jupiter, Moon are > significators of 12th house. But dont they signify other houses too ? > > 6) You write that " You should be careful when the signicators of 6th, > 8th, 12th, and badhaka will act together in dasha, bhukti and anthras. > " This is not just for me, but for everybody living in this world . > > 7) By the way, venus has given me the most pleasures in Life during its > dasha . > > Can you please explain me astrologically ( KP ) why none of your points > match with actual hapennings in my Life ? > > regards, > > Bhaskar. , " hbk1hbk_2100 " <hbk1hbk_2100@> > wrote: > > > > Hello Bhaskar, > > > > 1. You have Moon, Mars, Rahu in the constellation of Ketu in 6th > > house. > > > > 2. Jupiter is the strong significator of 8th house as there is no > > planet in jupiter's nakshatra, and there is no occupant in eighth > > house. > > > > 3. Sun, Mercury, Ketu, Mars, rahu, jupiter, Moon are significators of > > 12th house. > > > > 4. For Leo ascendant Mars is the badhaka planet as it rules the 9th > > house. Rahu in conjunction with Mars will be a strong badhaka planet. > > > > Most of your planets are in the subs of rahu. I did not get into > > further details as it will take too much of my time. > > > > You should be careful when the signicators of 6th, 8th, 12th, and > > badhaka will act together in dasha, bhukti and anthras. > > > > Rahu and Venus are very strong badhaka planets for you. Venus is > > occupant of 9th house and no planet in its constellation. > > > > You should be very careful when rahu, venus, will act with > > significators of 8th house Jupiter and the 12th house significators > > mentioned above. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Strong significators: > > > > 1 SAT, VENUS > > 2. MERCURY > > 3. VENUS > > 4. JUPITER, MARS > > 5. JUPITER, SAT > > 6. MOON, MARS, RAHU, SAT, KETU > > 7. SAT > > 8. JUPITER > > 9. VENUS, MARS > > 10. VENUS, SAT, MERCURY, VENUS > > 11. MERCURY > > 12. SUN, MERCURY, KETU, MARS, JUPITER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Singh, > > > > > > I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but just 2 > > > astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is because > > most > > > of the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. But if you > > wish > > > you may try. > > > > > > 28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( near > > > Vijaywada,Andhra). > > > > > > You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every where. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " hbk1hbk_2100 " <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > Could you please provide me with your birth data. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Singh ji, > > > > > > > > > > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been > > admitted > > > > to > > > > > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas Grace. > > See > > > > these > > > > > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular > > house ( > > > > > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too, > > therefore > > > > one > > > > > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where in such > > > > cases > > > > > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic houses > > figuring > > > > in > > > > > the calculations respectively. > > > > > > > > > > Unless its a pure case. > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you have > > > > > > found, all > > > > > > > nine planets signifying one house . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe > > just > > > > > > once in > > > > > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 > > with 7 > > > > > > Planets > > > > > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not > > > > happen, > > > > > > but > > > > > > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in such > > rare > > > > > > example. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and > > even > > > > if > > > > > > you > > > > > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare > > > > example > > > > > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP > > Readers, > > > > and > > > > > > other > > > > > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study > > such > > > > rare > > > > > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sudhagarceg " > > <sudhagarceg@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In some > > > > charts > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. FOr > > > > example > > > > > > all > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all > > the 9 > > > > > > planets > > > > > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > > > > > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents in > > all > > > > the > > > > > > > > periods? > > > > > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and > > comfort > > > > in > > > > > > > > all the periods? > > > > > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem > > > > effectively. > > > > > > > > Thank you sirs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 4, 2009 Dear Bhaskar ji,My rough study on your case on the accident part:As per the points given by Sri.Kudandhai nathan (on Trigons)we have to consider the sub of the the houses 4,8,12 for accidents. When any one of the sublord of these 3 is transitting in the sign where all these 3 sublords are connected ( vide signlord,stralord and sublord), and if the Das Bukthi and Andra of these Sublords connected are running and when Sun and Moon and Asc.,are transitting in that senstive points , the accident will happen to a native. If the Bhadaka and Maraka are connected along with these, the incident will end in danger to the native. But if the 1,5,9 sub lords are connected in any sign of the chart, the native will escape from such accidents. In your case, the 1,5,9 sublords are Sun,Moon and Sun. These sensitive link can be seen in Leo, Sun sign, Sun Star and Moon sub. This is good to save you. If we look at the 4,8,12 sub lords, surprisingly all the three happen to be Jupiter. No planet is in Jupiter. So the unfavorable link should involve in Jupiter sign,jupiter star and jupiter sub. But this link is not present in any sign. For example , if we take Pisces, Jupiter sign lord and Jupiter star lord are ok, but jupiter sub is not there. But as Jupiter is more stronger , i doubt if Jupiter sign and jupiter star lord itslef is enough to create unfovarable result? Moreover, The running Dasa .Bukthi must link to these. So the next Dasa Jupiter may cause such event? The running Dasa Rahu is closely conjuncted with Mars . also Rahu is the sublord of Jupiter. So when Rahu Dasa, Jupiter Bukthi, when Jupiter transits in Jupiter star and also the sun,moon and lagna are transiting in such sensitive point, may it lead to Accidents? Also we can see Jupiter is lord of 5 and in 5 . The star lord of Jupiter Moon is the sub lord of 5th cusp, so it may help you escape such bad incidents. (as I am out of reach to my software ,as I am out , i could not go through well the transit movements and other points. but i took a copy of your chart in hand). All the above reasons may be favoarble in saving you such accidents. Dear Bhaskar ji, these are my rough findings which I need your or other seniors expertise to tune up. If you address to my concerns/doubts in the above , that will be more appreciated and I shall be obliged. Thanks and Regards Adith On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Adithji,Yes .The RP's taken at time of judgement by are so very perfect by Pavanji,that actually there is no rectification required on the birth time asper my view. But my view is always open to cross examinations by the Experts.regards/Bhaskar. , " adith kasinath.g.k " <gkadithkasinath wrote:>> Dear BHASKAR JI AND PAVAN JI>> Hope good analysis and appeal to the same.>> Before trying to do the BTR immediately , if we look into the any > possibilities of any connection between the star/sub lord of the Ascof> natal with the RPs at the time if judgement may help us if any BTR is> required at all.>> Its my humble thought. > May be other memnbers analysis on this will take us into an one morenever> ending thread.>> Lets wait for Ajai's analysis as Bhaskar ji has given a go ahead.>> Regards> Adith >>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotishwrote: >> > Dear Pavan ji,> >> > A good effort on Your part.> >> > A small observation -> >> > *At time of Your Judgement the RP's were as under -* > > Ascendant lord - The Sun> > Moon starLord - Venus> > Moon raashi Lord - Mars> > Day Lord - Moon - (Kethu )> >> > Ascendant star lord - Kethu> >> > As per my recorded time of 10.14 am the equation stands as under - > >> > Leo ascendant - Raashi lord - Sun, StarLord Venus, SubLord - Sun.> >> > *The RP's are used only for those factors on which we are doubtfulin the> > chart.* Here the Lagna Lord is not doubtful in my natal Chart, because> > Lagna is at 15 degrees so no question of Lagna changing . Thereforewhat you> > are looking for confirmation , is the StarLord and the Sub lord.Since we> > have not used any of the above RP's for confirming the Lagna Lord, even the> > Sun stays in the RP's. My question to you now, is why dont you allowthe Sun> > from the RP's to be used as the SubLord for the ascendant which inany case> > is The Sun, and confirms it. Of course Venus confirms the StarLord as it is.> > Thus the timings does not require any rectification unless onewishes to> > confirm the SubSubLord and fine tune it.> >> > But in any case, what happened to the Sun amongst the RP's you have used> > for rectification purposes ?> >> > regards,> >> > Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> > , vgr pavan vgr_pavan1@ wrote: > > >> > > PRANAM ALL,> > >> > > I analysed the horoscope of sri bhaskar on 02-02-2009 @19.38hrs> > 16.14N, 80.35E> > >> > > Ruling Planets: > > >> > > Asc : sun kethu> > >> > > Moon : mar ven> > >> > > d.l  moon> > >> > >> > > Now bhaskarji`s Asc is in sun ven sun as per the recorded time. At the> > time of judgement ascis occupied by sat both rahu and kethurepresnts him.> > so final r.p are sun, mars, ven, rah,kethu.as mars is moon sign lord and> > aspecting it from the star of sun another r.p i think he is strong.mars wil> > be Asc sub lord and rahu s-s lord. (i left kethu because he ruleshis brth> > star.) for confirmation i opened k.p 2 reader which give 55 on the right> > side page.> > > (asking the query who rules his asc sub) 55 falls in mer,rah,mars.> > >> > > HIS BRTH TIME COMES TO 10.21 AM.> > >> > > NOW ASC csl Mars is in kethu star and sub of rahu. kethu in 6th and rahu> > is in 12th with mars in kethu star. So asc csl is clearly signifying6,12.> > But please note that 6,8,12 csl is mercury l/o 2,11 in 10 (no planetin mer> > stars ) in the star of rahu and sub of sat(no planets in sat stars). rahu in> > 12 sat in 5 in sun star l/o asc in 10. So mer is signifying2,10,11,12 at> > star level and 1,5,7,10 at sub level. So 6,8,and 12th cusps arepromising> > favourable results. > > > Sun,mer (l/o1,l/o11)are in sextile with asc promising good healthand> > fast recovery.> > >> > > As 6th csl is mercury in a dual sign good at sub level he does not having> > any major health> > > problems.mercury wil give fast recovery from all minor healthproblems.> > >> > > Bhaskarji this is my analysis i may be wrong . if u can give some of> > your past events to tally your BT it will be good.> > >> > > learned members, correct me if i am wrong.> > >> > > regards.> > >> > > vgr > > >> > > Â> > >> > > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, sujata das sujatadash1@ wrote:> > > sujata das sujatadash1@> >> > > Re: Re: i > > > > > > Monday, 2 February, 2009, 6:48 PM> > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Mr Raichur> > > Kindly clarify as to why Bhsker never met with an accident/ illhealth.> > > Regards> > > sujata> > >> > > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Raichur-a-r raichurar > wrote:> > > Raichur-a-r raichurar > > > > Re: Re: i> > > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co. > > in>> > > Monday, 2 February, 2009, 2:36 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > >> > > dear members> > > find the horoscope redrawn as per kpsw of mine. It is zipped for> > transmission> > >> > >> > > raichur anant > > >> > > --- On Sun, 1/2/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:> > >> > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > > Re: i> > > @gro ups.com> > > Sunday, 1 February, 2009, 7:32 PM> > >> > > Dear Singh, > > >> > > I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but just 2> > > astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is becausemost> > > of the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. But if you wish> > > you may try.> > >> > > 28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( near> > > Vijaywada,Andhra) .> > >> > > You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every where. > > >> > > regards/Bhaskar. .> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > @gro ups.com, " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Hello Bhaskar,> > > >> > > > Could you please provide me with your birth data. > > > >> > > > Regards> > > >> > > > G. Singh> > > >> > > > --- In> > > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Singh ji,> > > > >> > > > > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been admitted> > > > to> > > > > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas Grace.See> > > > these> > > > > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular house (> > > > > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too,therefore> > > > one> > > > > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where in such> > > > cases> > > > > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic housesfiguring> > > > in> > > > > the calculations respectively. > > > > >> > > > > Unless its a pure case.> > > > >> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > @gro ups.com,> > > " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house.> > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " > > > bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you > > > have> > > > > > found, all> > > > > > > nine planets signifying one house .> > > > > > >> > > > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe > > > just> > > > > > once in> > > > > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962> > > with 7> > > > > > Planets > > > > > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not> > > > happen,> > > > > > but> > > > > > > as per> > > Traditional this signification may be there in such > > > rare> > > > > > example.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and> > > even > > > > if> > > > > > you> > > > > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with suchrare> > > > example> > > > > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP > > > Readers,> > > > and> > > > > > other> > > > > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study> > > such> > > > rare > > > > > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively " .> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " sudhagarceg " > > > <sudhagarceg@> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Sirs,> > > >> > > > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In > > > some> > > > charts> > > > > > i> > > > > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house...> > > FOr> > > > example > > > > > > all> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all> > > the 9> > > > > > planets > > > > > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean?> > > > > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get> > > accidents in all> > > > the > > > > > > > > periods?> > > > > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck> > > and comfort> > > > in> > > > > > > > all the periods? > > > > > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem> > > > effectively.> > > > > > > > Thank you sirs.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > >> > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 4, 2009 Dear Friends,Recent posts in this thread, points towards a confusion in analysis of the charts where we have all the planets (or many planets) signifying a single house. Some of the quotes are -Raichur ji said, " you are the most fortunate man " Sujata ji said, " why Bhaskar never met with an accident/ illhelath " Sunil ji said " This would naturally mean that no matter what dasha or bhukti the native is running, there will be improvement in his monetary situation. " I believe that we are missing one very fundamental points in birth chart analysis and that is the reason there seems some confusion. The point that a person will get what is promised in his chart. Not everybody get results of a house signified by a planets. For example, suppose I have all planets signifying 12th house, I may get foreign travel but not hospitalization or vice-versa in my lifetime. As per KP, to figure out what is promised for a house and what is not, we need to check the sub-lord of the cusp of that house. In above example, if 12th cuspal sub lord is signifying 1st and 6th, one may get hospitalization. If 12th cuspal sub lord signifying 3rd, 9th, 12th, he may get foreign travels etc. If 12th cuspal sublord signifying 1st, 3rd, 6th, 9th, 12th etc. he may get both hospitalization and foreign travel. It depends. We should also see the nature of the sub lord to get a better idea. Let us take example of Mr. G. Singh's chart. He has all the nine planets signifying 11th house. 11th house tells us about matters related to " Profit or gain, income, all kinds of receipts, acquisition, gain, desire, passion, fulfillment of one's desire, wealth or riches, brothers and sisters - elder one, friends " Will he get all? In my opinion, he will get everything that is promised in his chart. In his chart, 11th house sub lord is Moon signifying 11, 10, 3, 8, and 5. 5th house is negating quite a few benefits of 11th house e.g. gain from competition/ others etc. 10th house is also negating some of the benefits of 11th house by being 12th to 11th house. 8th house is not good generally for quite a few matters including income and gains. It definately tells use that the things would not have come as easy to his as it looks from the high level view of the chart. 5th house and 8th house suggests that he is fortunate in relationships and love affairs, as he told us. So to reiterate my point again - one gets what is promised in the chart. Thanks & Regards,Punit PandeyOn Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:50 AM, hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100 wrote: Hello Bhaskar, Let me give you my brief thoughts as I have very aggressive schedule. Rahu in your chart is in 12th house and most of your planets are connected with Rahu. But understand Rahu is in your Lagna lord Sun's sign. Sun the ruler of 1st house is in 10th house. Rahu in Leo is stronger than sun to give 1st house and 10th house results. So planets in rahu's nakshtra are giving you 10th house and 1st house results more predominantly and your health is okay. Alot depends on the analysis of the house cusp lords, but it is fruitful only if your birth time is very accurate. Also even if a planet is in 12th house but if it is close to the 1st house cusp, it will end up giving 1st house results instead of 12th house results. Now you tell me how accurate your birth time is as I don't have time for your BTR. But be careful in Rahu / Mars period especially if Rahu is transiting in Mars nakshatra at that time because these two planets can do big harm, and then you will remember me. Regards G. Singh , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Singhji, > > This is KP learnt and applied in bits, but not complete. > > 1) Can you answer why is it , that though I have all planets signifying > 6th and 12th house, due to their being placed in Constellation of Nodes, > and the Nodes occupy 6/12 axis, yet why have I never been admitted in a > hospital or face dany health problems of any worry? > > 2) Rahu has actually done very good for me. I do not accept it as a > Badhak just because you think it is placed with the badhak ? Can you > explain the astrological reason for it being a Badhaka ? > > 3) Does Jupiter does not signify any other houses ? > > 4) Where are the roles of the sublords of other planets and Cusps ? > > 5) You write that Sun, Mercury, Ketu, Mars, rahu, jupiter, Moon are > significators of 12th house. But dont they signify other houses too ? > > 6) You write that " You should be careful when the signicators of 6th, > 8th, 12th, and badhaka will act together in dasha, bhukti and anthras. > " This is not just for me, but for everybody living in this world . > > 7) By the way, venus has given me the most pleasures in Life during its > dasha . > > Can you please explain me astrologically ( KP ) why none of your points > match with actual hapennings in my Life ? > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > , " hbk1hbk_2100 " <hbk1hbk_2100@> > wrote: > > > > Hello Bhaskar, > > > > 1. You have Moon, Mars, Rahu in the constellation of Ketu in 6th > > house. > > > > 2. Jupiter is the strong significator of 8th house as there is no > > planet in jupiter's nakshatra, and there is no occupant in eighth > > house. > > > > 3. Sun, Mercury, Ketu, Mars, rahu, jupiter, Moon are significators of > > 12th house. > > > > 4. For Leo ascendant Mars is the badhaka planet as it rules the 9th > > house. Rahu in conjunction with Mars will be a strong badhaka planet. > > > > Most of your planets are in the subs of rahu. I did not get into > > further details as it will take too much of my time. > > > > You should be careful when the signicators of 6th, 8th, 12th, and > > badhaka will act together in dasha, bhukti and anthras. > > > > Rahu and Venus are very strong badhaka planets for you. Venus is > > occupant of 9th house and no planet in its constellation. > > > > You should be very careful when rahu, venus, will act with > > significators of 8th house Jupiter and the 12th house significators > > mentioned above. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Strong significators: > > > > 1 SAT, VENUS > > 2. MERCURY > > 3. VENUS > > 4. JUPITER, MARS > > 5. JUPITER, SAT > > 6. MOON, MARS, RAHU, SAT, KETU > > 7. SAT > > 8. JUPITER > > 9. VENUS, MARS > > 10. VENUS, SAT, MERCURY, VENUS > > 11. MERCURY > > 12. SUN, MERCURY, KETU, MARS, JUPITER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Singh, > > > > > > I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but just 2 > > > astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is because > > most > > > of the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. But if you > > wish > > > you may try. > > > > > > 28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( near > > > Vijaywada,Andhra). > > > > > > You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every where. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " hbk1hbk_2100 " <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > Could you please provide me with your birth data. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Singh ji, > > > > > > > > > > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been > > admitted > > > > to > > > > > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas Grace. > > See > > > > these > > > > > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular > > house ( > > > > > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too, > > therefore > > > > one > > > > > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where in such > > > > cases > > > > > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic houses > > figuring > > > > in > > > > > the calculations respectively. > > > > > > > > > > Unless its a pure case. > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you have > > > > > > found, all > > > > > > > nine planets signifying one house . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe > > just > > > > > > once in > > > > > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 > > with 7 > > > > > > Planets > > > > > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not > > > > happen, > > > > > > but > > > > > > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in such > > rare > > > > > > example. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and > > even > > > > if > > > > > > you > > > > > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare > > > > example > > > > > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP > > Readers, > > > > and > > > > > > other > > > > > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study > > such > > > > rare > > > > > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sudhagarceg " > > <sudhagarceg@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In some > > > > charts > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. FOr > > > > example > > > > > > all > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all > > the 9 > > > > > > planets > > > > > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > > > > > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents in > > all > > > > the > > > > > > > > periods? > > > > > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and > > comfort > > > > in > > > > > > > > all the periods? > > > > > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem > > > > effectively. > > > > > > > > Thank you sirs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 4, 2009 Dear Shri Singhji , I thank you for your kind analysis on my chart, and indebted towards same. This excersise has been volunteered by you, and you have been kind enough to venture predictions without my asking you to do so which is appreciated. Please know that I am aware of your tight schedule through your mails, and have not tried to embark on your time , at any point of time. My Birth time is accurate in the sense that its rectified by me to 10.15 but that will not change the subLord, so any preditions given by anybody should remain the same. Rahu Mars is a long way to go. Shall think of how to cross the bridge when it appears in sight. Normally any planets in the 12th Cusp I would consider to give the effects of the first Cusp only if near 4 degrees to it, strictly speaking. In my case the difference of orb is 9 degrees so no question of first house results even if one goes by traditional methods of 1/3rd. , " hbk1hbk_2100 " <hbk1hbk_2100 wrote: > > Hello Bhaskar, > > Let me give you my brief thoughts as I have very aggressive > schedule. > > Rahu in your chart is in 12th house and most of your planets are > connected with Rahu. But understand Rahu is in your Lagna lord Sun's > sign. Sun the ruler of 1st house is in 10th house. Rahu in Leo is > stronger than sun to give 1st house and 10th house results. So > planets in rahu's nakshtra are giving you 10th house and 1st house > results more predominantly and your health is okay. Alot depends on > the analysis of the house cusp lords, but it is fruitful only if > your birth time is very accurate. Also even if a planet is in 12th > house but if it is close to the 1st house cusp, it will end up > giving 1st house results instead of 12th house results. Now you tell > me how accurate your birth time is as I don't have time for your BTR. > > But be careful in Rahu / Mars period especially if Rahu is > transiting in Mars nakshatra at that time because these two planets > can do big harm, and then you will remember me. > > Regards > > G. Singh > > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Singhji, > > > > This is KP learnt and applied in bits, but not complete. > > > > 1) Can you answer why is it , that though I have all planets > signifying > > 6th and 12th house, due to their being placed in Constellation of > Nodes, > > and the Nodes occupy 6/12 axis, yet why have I never been admitted > in a > > hospital or face dany health problems of any worry? > > > > 2) Rahu has actually done very good for me. I do not accept it as a > > Badhak just because you think it is placed with the badhak ? Can > you > > explain the astrological reason for it being a Badhaka ? > > > > 3) Does Jupiter does not signify any other houses ? > > > > 4) Where are the roles of the sublords of other planets and Cusps ? > > > > 5) You write that Sun, Mercury, Ketu, Mars, rahu, jupiter, Moon > are > > significators of 12th house. But dont they signify other houses > too ? > > > > 6) You write that " You should be careful when the signicators of > 6th, > > 8th, 12th, and badhaka will act together in dasha, bhukti and > anthras. > > " This is not just for me, but for everybody living in this world . > > > > 7) By the way, venus has given me the most pleasures in Life > during its > > dasha . > > > > Can you please explain me astrologically ( KP ) why none of your > points > > match with actual hapennings in my Life ? > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " hbk1hbk_2100 " <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hello Bhaskar, > > > > > > 1. You have Moon, Mars, Rahu in the constellation of Ketu in 6th > > > house. > > > > > > 2. Jupiter is the strong significator of 8th house as there is no > > > planet in jupiter's nakshatra, and there is no occupant in eighth > > > house. > > > > > > 3. Sun, Mercury, Ketu, Mars, rahu, jupiter, Moon are > significators of > > > 12th house. > > > > > > 4. For Leo ascendant Mars is the badhaka planet as it rules the > 9th > > > house. Rahu in conjunction with Mars will be a strong badhaka > planet. > > > > > > Most of your planets are in the subs of rahu. I did not get into > > > further details as it will take too much of my time. > > > > > > You should be careful when the signicators of 6th, 8th, 12th, and > > > badhaka will act together in dasha, bhukti and anthras. > > > > > > Rahu and Venus are very strong badhaka planets for you. Venus is > > > occupant of 9th house and no planet in its constellation. > > > > > > You should be very careful when rahu, venus, will act with > > > significators of 8th house Jupiter and the 12th house > significators > > > mentioned above. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Strong significators: > > > > > > 1 SAT, VENUS > > > 2. MERCURY > > > 3. VENUS > > > 4. JUPITER, MARS > > > 5. JUPITER, SAT > > > 6. MOON, MARS, RAHU, SAT, KETU > > > 7. SAT > > > 8. JUPITER > > > 9. VENUS, MARS > > > 10. VENUS, SAT, MERCURY, VENUS > > > 11. MERCURY > > > 12. SUN, MERCURY, KETU, MARS, JUPITER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Singh, > > > > > > > > I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but > just 2 > > > > astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is > because > > > most > > > > of the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. But if > you > > > wish > > > > you may try. > > > > > > > > 28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( near > > > > Vijaywada,Andhra). > > > > > > > > You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every > where. > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " hbk1hbk_2100 " > <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > Could you please provide me with your birth data. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Singh ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been > > > admitted > > > > > to > > > > > > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas > Grace. > > > See > > > > > these > > > > > > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular > > > house ( > > > > > > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too, > > > therefore > > > > > one > > > > > > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where > in such > > > > > cases > > > > > > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic houses > > > figuring > > > > > in > > > > > > the calculations respectively. > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless its a pure case. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where > you have > > > > > > > found, all > > > > > > > > nine planets signifying one house . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens > maybe > > > just > > > > > > > once in > > > > > > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 > > > with 7 > > > > > > > Planets > > > > > > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may > not > > > > > happen, > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in > such > > > rare > > > > > > > example. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, > and > > > even > > > > > if > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such > rare > > > > > example > > > > > > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP > > > Readers, > > > > > and > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to > study > > > such > > > > > rare > > > > > > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sudhagarceg " > > > <sudhagarceg@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > > > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In > some > > > > > charts > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. > FOr > > > > > example > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart > all > > > the 9 > > > > > > > planets > > > > > > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > > > > > > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents > in > > > all > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > periods? > > > > > > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and > > > comfort > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > all the periods? > > > > > > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem > > > > > effectively. > > > > > > > > > Thank you sirs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 4, 2009 Dear Punit I oveflooked his 6th sublord signifying 5 1 11. Thankyou.Analysing the results of nodes is rather dicey Regards sujata --- On Wed, 4/2/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: Punit Pandey <punitpRe: Re: i Date: Wednesday, 4 February, 2009, 12:06 PM Dear Friends,Recent posts in this thread, points towards a confusion in analysis of the charts where we have all the planets (or many planets) signifying a single house. Some of the quotes are -Raichur ji said, "you are the most fortunate man"Sujata ji said, "why Bhaskar never met with an accident/ illhelath"Sunil ji said "This would naturally mean that no matter what dasha or bhukti the native is running, there will be improvement in his monetary situation."I believe that we are missing one very fundamental points in birth chart analysis and that is the reason there seems some confusion. The point that a person will get what is promised in his chart. Not everybody get results of a house signified by a planets. For example, suppose I have all planets signifying 12th house, I may get foreign travel but not hospitalization or vice-versa in my lifetime. As per KP, to figure out what is promised for a house and what is not, we need to check the sub-lord of the cusp of that house. In above example, if 12th cuspal sub lord is signifying 1st and 6th, one may get hospitalization. If 12th cuspal sub lord signifying 3rd, 9th, 12th, he may get foreign travels etc. If 12th cuspal sublord signifying 1st, 3rd, 6th, 9th, 12th etc. he may get both hospitalization and foreign travel. It depends. We should also see the nature of the sub lord to get a better idea.. Let us take example of Mr. G. Singh's chart. He has all the nine planets signifying 11th house. 11th house tells us about matters related to "Profit or gain, income, all kinds of receipts, acquisition, gain, desire, passion, fulfillment of one's desire, wealth or riches, brothers and sisters - elder one, friends" Will he get all? In my opinion, he will get everything that is promised in his chart. In his chart, 11th house sub lord is Moon signifying 11, 10, 3, 8, and 5. 5th house is negating quite a few benefits of 11th house e.g. gain from competition/ others etc. 10th house is also negating some of the benefits of 11th house by being 12th to 11th house. 8th house is not good generally for quite a few matters including income and gains. It definately tells use that the things would not have come as easy to his as it looks from the high level view of the chart. 5th house and 8th house suggests that he is fortunate in relationships and love affairs, as he told us. So to reiterate my point again - one gets what is promised in the chart. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:50 AM, hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100@ > wrote: Hello Bhaskar,Let me give you my brief thoughts as I have very aggressive schedule. Rahu in your chart is in 12th house and most of your planets are connected with Rahu. But understand Rahu is in your Lagna lord Sun's sign. Sun the ruler of 1st house is in 10th house.. Rahu in Leo is stronger than sun to give 1st house and 10th house results. So planets in rahu's nakshtra are giving you 10th house and 1st house results more predominantly and your health is okay. Alot depends on the analysis of the house cusp lords, but it is fruitful only if your birth time is very accurate. Also even if a planet is in 12th house but if it is close to the 1st house cusp, it will end up giving 1st house results instead of 12th house results. Now you tell me how accurate your birth time is as I don't have time for your BTR.But be careful in Rahu / Mars period especially if Rahu is transiting in Mars nakshatra at that time because these two planets can do big harm, and then you will remember me. RegardsG. Singh@gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> > Dear Singhji,> > This is KP learnt and applied in bits, but not complete.> > 1) Can you answer why is it , that though I have all planets signifying> 6th and 12th house, due to their being placed in Constellation of Nodes,> and the Nodes occupy 6/12 axis, yet why have I never been admitted in a> hospital or face dany health problems of any worry?> > 2) Rahu has actually done very good for me. I do not accept it as a> Badhak just because you think it is placed with the badhak ? Can you> explain the astrological reason for it being a Badhaka ?> > 3) Does Jupiter does not signify any other houses ?> > 4) Where are the roles of the sublords of other planets and Cusps ?> > 5) You write that Sun, Mercury, Ketu, Mars, rahu, jupiter, Moon are> significators of 12th house. But dont they signify other houses too ?> > 6) You write that " You should be careful when the signicators of 6th,> 8th, 12th, and badhaka will act together in dasha, bhukti and anthras.> " This is not just for me, but for everybody living in this world .> > 7) By the way, venus has given me the most pleasures in Life during its> dasha .> > Can you please explain me astrologically ( KP ) why none of your points> match with actual hapennings in my Life ?> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "hbk1hbk_2100" <hbk1hbk_2100@>> wrote:> >> > Hello Bhaskar,> >> > 1. You have Moon, Mars, Rahu in the constellation of Ketu in 6th> > house.> >> > 2. Jupiter is the strong significator of 8th house as there is no> > planet in jupiter's nakshatra, and there is no occupant in eighth> > house.> >> > 3. Sun, Mercury, Ketu, Mars, rahu, jupiter, Moon are significators of> > 12th house.> >> > 4. For Leo ascendant Mars is the badhaka planet as it rules the 9th> > house. Rahu in conjunction with Mars will be a strong badhaka planet.> >> > Most of your planets are in the subs of rahu. I did not get into> > further details as it will take too much of my time.> >> > You should be careful when the signicators of 6th, 8th, 12th, and> > badhaka will act together in dasha, bhukti and anthras.> >> > Rahu and Venus are very strong badhaka planets for you. Venus is> > occupant of 9th house and no planet in its constellation.> >> > You should be very careful when rahu, venus, will act with> > significators of 8th house Jupiter and the 12th house significators> > mentioned above.> >> >> >> > Regards> >> > G. Singh> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Strong significators:> >> > 1 SAT, VENUS> > 2. MERCURY> > 3. VENUS> > 4. JUPITER, MARS> > 5. JUPITER, SAT> > 6. MOON, MARS, RAHU, SAT, KETU> > 7. SAT> > 8. JUPITER> > 9. VENUS, MARS> > 10. VENUS, SAT, MERCURY, VENUS> > 11. MERCURY> > 12. SUN, MERCURY, KETU, MARS, JUPITER> >> >> >> >> >> >> > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Singh,> > >> > > I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but just 2> > > astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is because> > most> > > of the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. But if you> > wish> > > you may try.> > >> > > 28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( near> > > Vijaywada,Andhra) .> > >> > > You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every where.> > >> > > regards/Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > @gro ups.com, "hbk1hbk_2100" <hbk1hbk_2100@>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Hello Bhaskar,> > > >> > > > Could you please provide me with your birth data.> > > >> > > > Regards> > > >> > > > G. Singh> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Singh ji,> > > > >> > > > > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been> > admitted> > > > to> > > > > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas Grace.> > See> > > > these> > > > > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular> > house (> > > > > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too,> > therefore> > > > one> > > > > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where in such> > > > cases> > > > > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic houses> > figuring> > > > in> > > > > the calculations respectively.> > > > >> > > > > Unless its a pure case.> > > > >> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > @gro ups.com, "hbk1hbk_2100"> > <hbk1hbk_2100@>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house.> > > > > >> > > > > > G. Singh> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you have> > > > > > found, all> > > > > > > nine planets signifying one house .> > > > > > >> > > > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe> > just> > > > > > once in> > > > > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962> > with 7> > > > > > Planets> > > > > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not> > > > happen,> > > > > > but> > > > > > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in such> > rare> > > > > > example.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and> > even> > > > if> > > > > > you> > > > > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare> > > > example> > > > > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP> > Readers,> > > > and> > > > > > other> > > > > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study> > such> > > > rare> > > > > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively".> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "sudhagarceg"> > <sudhagarceg@>> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Sirs,> > > > > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In some> > > > charts> > > > > > i> > > > > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. FOr> > > > example> > > > > > all> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all> > the 9> > > > > > planets> > > > > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean?> > > > > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents in> > all> > > > the> > > > > > > > periods?> > > > > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and> > comfort> > > > in> > > > > > > > all the periods?> > > > > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem> > > > effectively.> > > > > > > > Thank you sirs.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 4, 2009 Dear BaskarjiHope you received my earlier mail on the analysis.I will be obliged if if you comment on the sameRegardsAdithOn Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 11:54 AM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath wrote: Dear Bhaskar ji,My rough study on your case on the accident part:As per the points given by Sri.Kudandhai nathan (on Trigons)we have to consider the sub of the the houses 4,8,12 for accidents. When any one of the sublord of these 3 is transitting in the sign where all these 3 sublords are connected ( vide signlord,stralord and sublord), and if the Das Bukthi and Andra of these Sublords connected are running and when Sun and Moon and Asc.,are transitting in that senstive points , the accident will happen to a native. If the Bhadaka and Maraka are connected along with these, the incident will end in danger to the native. But if the 1,5,9 sub lords are connected in any sign of the chart, the native will escape from such accidents. In your case, the 1,5,9 sublords are Sun,Moon and Sun. These sensitive link can be seen in Leo, Sun sign, Sun Star and Moon sub. This is good to save you. If we look at the 4,8,12 sub lords, surprisingly all the three happen to be Jupiter. No planet is in Jupiter. So the unfavorable link should involve in Jupiter sign,jupiter star and jupiter sub. But this link is not present in any sign. For example , if we take Pisces, Jupiter sign lord and Jupiter star lord are ok, but jupiter sub is not there. But as Jupiter is more stronger , i doubt if Jupiter sign and jupiter star lord itslef is enough to create unfovarable result? Moreover, The running Dasa .Bukthi must link to these. So the next Dasa Jupiter may cause such event? The running Dasa Rahu is closely conjuncted with Mars . also Rahu is the sublord of Jupiter. So when Rahu Dasa, Jupiter Bukthi, when Jupiter transits in Jupiter star and also the sun,moon and lagna are transiting in such sensitive point, may it lead to Accidents? Also we can see Jupiter is lord of 5 and in 5 . The star lord of Jupiter Moon is the sub lord of 5th cusp, so it may help you escape such bad incidents. (as I am out of reach to my software ,as I am out , i could not go through well the transit movements and other points. but i took a copy of your chart in hand). All the above reasons may be favoarble in saving you such accidents. Dear Bhaskar ji, these are my rough findings which I need your or other seniors expertise to tune up. If you address to my concerns/doubts in the above , that will be more appreciated and I shall be obliged. Thanks and Regards Adith On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Adithji,Yes .The RP's taken at time of judgement by are so very perfect by Pavanji,that actually there is no rectification required on the birth time asper my view. But my view is always open to cross examinations by the Experts.regards/Bhaskar. , " adith kasinath.g.k " <gkadithkasinath wrote:>> Dear BHASKAR JI AND PAVAN JI>> Hope good analysis and appeal to the same.>> Before trying to do the BTR immediately , if we look into the any > possibilities of any connection between the star/sub lord of the Ascof> natal with the RPs at the time if judgement may help us if any BTR is> required at all.>> Its my humble thought. > May be other memnbers analysis on this will take us into an one morenever> ending thread.>> Lets wait for Ajai's analysis as Bhaskar ji has given a go ahead.>> Regards> Adith >>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotishwrote: >> > Dear Pavan ji,> >> > A good effort on Your part.> >> > A small observation -> >> > *At time of Your Judgement the RP's were as under -* > > Ascendant lord - The Sun> > Moon starLord - Venus> > Moon raashi Lord - Mars> > Day Lord - Moon - (Kethu )> >> > Ascendant star lord - Kethu> >> > As per my recorded time of 10.14 am the equation stands as under - > >> > Leo ascendant - Raashi lord - Sun, StarLord Venus, SubLord - Sun.> >> > *The RP's are used only for those factors on which we are doubtfulin the> > chart.* Here the Lagna Lord is not doubtful in my natal Chart, because> > Lagna is at 15 degrees so no question of Lagna changing . Thereforewhat you> > are looking for confirmation , is the StarLord and the Sub lord.Since we> > have not used any of the above RP's for confirming the Lagna Lord, even the> > Sun stays in the RP's. My question to you now, is why dont you allowthe Sun> > from the RP's to be used as the SubLord for the ascendant which inany case> > is The Sun, and confirms it. Of course Venus confirms the StarLord as it is.> > Thus the timings does not require any rectification unless onewishes to> > confirm the SubSubLord and fine tune it.> >> > But in any case, what happened to the Sun amongst the RP's you have used> > for rectification purposes ?> >> > regards,> >> > Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> > , vgr pavan vgr_pavan1@ wrote: > > >> > > PRANAM ALL,> > >> > > I analysed the horoscope of sri bhaskar on 02-02-2009 @19.38hrs> > 16.14N, 80.35E> > >> > > Ruling Planets: > > >> > > Asc : sun kethu> > >> > > Moon : mar ven> > >> > > d.l  moon> > >> > >> > > Now bhaskarji`s Asc is in sun ven sun as per the recorded time. At the> > time of judgement ascis occupied by sat both rahu and kethurepresnts him.> > so final r.p are sun, mars, ven, rah,kethu.as mars is moon sign lord and> > aspecting it from the star of sun another r.p i think he is strong.mars wil> > be Asc sub lord and rahu s-s lord. (i left kethu because he ruleshis brth> > star.) for confirmation i opened k.p 2 reader which give 55 on the right> > side page.> > > (asking the query who rules his asc sub) 55 falls in mer,rah,mars.> > >> > > HIS BRTH TIME COMES TO 10.21 AM.> > >> > > NOW ASC csl Mars is in kethu star and sub of rahu. kethu in 6th and rahu> > is in 12th with mars in kethu star. So asc csl is clearly signifying6,12.> > But please note that 6,8,12 csl is mercury l/o 2,11 in 10 (no planetin mer> > stars ) in the star of rahu and sub of sat(no planets in sat stars). rahu in> > 12 sat in 5 in sun star l/o asc in 10. So mer is signifying2,10,11,12 at> > star level and 1,5,7,10 at sub level. So 6,8,and 12th cusps arepromising> > favourable results. > > > Sun,mer (l/o1,l/o11)are in sextile with asc promising good healthand> > fast recovery.> > >> > > As 6th csl is mercury in a dual sign good at sub level he does not having> > any major health> > > problems.mercury wil give fast recovery from all minor healthproblems.> > >> > > Bhaskarji this is my analysis i may be wrong . if u can give some of> > your past events to tally your BT it will be good.> > >> > > learned members, correct me if i am wrong.> > >> > > regards.> > >> > > vgr > > >> > > Â> > >> > > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, sujata das sujatadash1@ wrote:> > > sujata das sujatadash1@> >> > > Re: Re: i > > > > > > Monday, 2 February, 2009, 6:48 PM> > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Mr Raichur> > > Kindly clarify as to why Bhsker never met with an accident/ illhealth.> > > Regards> > > sujata> > >> > > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Raichur-a-r raichurar > wrote:> > > Raichur-a-r raichurar > > > > Re: Re: i> > > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co. > > in>> > > Monday, 2 February, 2009, 2:36 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > >> > > dear members> > > find the horoscope redrawn as per kpsw of mine. It is zipped for> > transmission> > >> > >> > > raichur anant > > >> > > --- On Sun, 1/2/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:> > >> > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > > Re: i> > > @gro ups.com> > > Sunday, 1 February, 2009, 7:32 PM> > >> > > Dear Singh, > > >> > > I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but just 2> > > astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is becausemost> > > of the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. But if you wish> > > you may try.> > >> > > 28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( near> > > Vijaywada,Andhra) .> > >> > > You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every where. > > >> > > regards/Bhaskar. .> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > @gro ups.com, " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Hello Bhaskar,> > > >> > > > Could you please provide me with your birth data. > > > >> > > > Regards> > > >> > > > G. Singh> > > >> > > > --- In> > > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Singh ji,> > > > >> > > > > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been admitted> > > > to> > > > > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas Grace.See> > > > these> > > > > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular house (> > > > > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too,therefore> > > > one> > > > > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where in such> > > > cases> > > > > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic housesfiguring> > > > in> > > > > the calculations respectively. > > > > >> > > > > Unless its a pure case.> > > > >> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > @gro ups.com,> > > " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house.> > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " > > > bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you > > > have> > > > > > found, all> > > > > > > nine planets signifying one house .> > > > > > >> > > > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe > > > just> > > > > > once in> > > > > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962> > > with 7> > > > > > Planets > > > > > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not> > > > happen,> > > > > > but> > > > > > > as per> > > Traditional this signification may be there in such > > > rare> > > > > > example.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and> > > even > > > > if> > > > > > you> > > > > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with suchrare> > > > example> > > > > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP > > > Readers,> > > > and> > > > > > other> > > > > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study> > > such> > > > rare > > > > > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively " .> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " sudhagarceg " > > > <sudhagarceg@> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Sirs,> > > >> > > > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In > > > some> > > > charts> > > > > > i> > > > > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house...> > > FOr> > > > example > > > > > > all> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all> > > the 9> > > > > > planets > > > > > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean?> > > > > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get> > > accidents in all> > > > the > > > > > > > > periods?> > > > > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck> > > and comfort> > > > in> > > > > > > > all the periods? > > > > > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem> > > > effectively.> > > > > > > > Thank you sirs.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > >> > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 4, 2009 Dear Punit jee, In my view when somany planets signifying a house then we must look for sub lord or sub-sub lord for final analysis that will give the real picture. As Mr.Sing have 9 planets signifying 11 house but sub and sub-sub lord are different.When a particular Dasa period running it will analyse by sub theory and he will get the result as per sub lord or by sub-sub lord.In traditional Astrology it will also analyse by other divisions.In general by only Rahi-chart predication will be wrong. Kp system is best tool to analyse the chart as like Mr.Sing or some common chart with same placing but results are very different as like born child with difference of few minutes ,as twins . We must know the traditional astrology for right conclusion as like " Bhavatm-Bhavam " theory.11th house is 8 from 4th house,6th from 6th house it will give some negative result,12th from 12th house.So these all give us some more help to analyse. Thanks, M.S.Bohra , Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > Recent posts in this thread, points towards a confusion in analysis of the > charts where we have all the planets (or many planets) signifying a single > house. Some of the quotes are - > > Raichur ji said, " you are the most fortunate man " > Sujata ji said, " why Bhaskar never met with an accident/ illhelath " > Sunil ji said " This would naturally mean that no matter what dasha or bhukti > the native is running, there will be improvement in his monetary situation. " > > I believe that we are missing one very fundamental points in birth chart > analysis and that is the reason there seems some confusion. The point that a > *person will get what is promised in his chart. *Not everybody get results > of a house signified by a planets. For example, suppose I have all planets > signifying 12th house, I may get foreign travel but not hospitalization or > vice-versa in my lifetime. *As per KP, to figure out what is promised for a > house and what is not, we need to check the sub-lord of the cusp of that > house. *In above example, if 12th cuspal sub lord is signifying 1st and 6th, > one may get hospitalization. If 12th cuspal sub lord signifying 3rd, 9th, > 12th, he may get foreign travels etc. If 12th cuspal sublord signifying 1st, > 3rd, 6th, 9th, 12th etc. he may get both hospitalization and foreign travel. > It depends. We should also see the nature of the sub lord to get a better > idea. > > Let us take example of Mr. G. Singh's chart. He has all the nine planets > signifying 11th house. 11th house tells us about matters related to " Profit > or gain, income, all kinds of receipts, acquisition, gain, desire, passion, > fulfillment of one's desire, wealth or riches, brothers and sisters - elder > one, friends " Will he get all? In my opinion, he will get everything that is > promised in his chart. In his chart, 11th house sub lord is Moon signifying > 11, 10, 3, 8, and 5. 5th house is negating quite a few benefits of 11th > house e.g. gain from competition/ others etc. 10th house is also negating > some of the benefits of 11th house by being 12th to 11th house. 8th house is > not good generally for quite a few matters including income and gains. It > definately tells use that the things would not have come as easy to his as > it looks from the high level view of the chart. 5th house and 8th house > suggests that he is fortunate in relationships and love affairs, as he told > us. *So to reiterate my point again - one gets what is promised in the > chart. * > > Thanks & Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:50 AM, hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100 wrote: > > > Hello Bhaskar, > > > > Let me give you my brief thoughts as I have very aggressive > > schedule. > > > > Rahu in your chart is in 12th house and most of your planets are > > connected with Rahu. But understand Rahu is in your Lagna lord Sun's > > sign. Sun the ruler of 1st house is in 10th house. Rahu in Leo is > > stronger than sun to give 1st house and 10th house results. So > > planets in rahu's nakshtra are giving you 10th house and 1st house > > results more predominantly and your health is okay. Alot depends on > > the analysis of the house cusp lords, but it is fruitful only if > > your birth time is very accurate. Also even if a planet is in 12th > > house but if it is close to the 1st house cusp, it will end up > > giving 1st house results instead of 12th house results. Now you tell > > me how accurate your birth time is as I don't have time for your BTR. > > > > But be careful in Rahu / Mars period especially if Rahu is > > transiting in Mars nakshatra at that time because these two planets > > can do big harm, and then you will remember me. > > > > > > Regards > > > > G. Singh > > > > <%40>, > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Singhji, > > > > > > This is KP learnt and applied in bits, but not complete. > > > > > > 1) Can you answer why is it , that though I have all planets > > signifying > > > 6th and 12th house, due to their being placed in Constellation of > > Nodes, > > > and the Nodes occupy 6/12 axis, yet why have I never been admitted > > in a > > > hospital or face dany health problems of any worry? > > > > > > 2) Rahu has actually done very good for me. I do not accept it as a > > > Badhak just because you think it is placed with the badhak ? Can > > you > > > explain the astrological reason for it being a Badhaka ? > > > > > > 3) Does Jupiter does not signify any other houses ? > > > > > > 4) Where are the roles of the sublords of other planets and Cusps ? > > > > > > 5) You write that Sun, Mercury, Ketu, Mars, rahu, jupiter, Moon > > are > > > significators of 12th house. But dont they signify other houses > > too ? > > > > > > 6) You write that " You should be careful when the signicators of > > 6th, > > > 8th, 12th, and badhaka will act together in dasha, bhukti and > > anthras. > > > " This is not just for me, but for everybody living in this world . > > > > > > 7) By the way, venus has given me the most pleasures in Life > > during its > > > dasha . > > > > > > Can you please explain me astrologically ( KP ) why none of your > > points > > > match with actual hapennings in my Life ? > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, > > " hbk1hbk_2100 " <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > 1. You have Moon, Mars, Rahu in the constellation of Ketu in 6th > > > > house. > > > > > > > > 2. Jupiter is the strong significator of 8th house as there is no > > > > planet in jupiter's nakshatra, and there is no occupant in eighth > > > > house. > > > > > > > > 3. Sun, Mercury, Ketu, Mars, rahu, jupiter, Moon are > > significators of > > > > 12th house. > > > > > > > > 4. For Leo ascendant Mars is the badhaka planet as it rules the > > 9th > > > > house. Rahu in conjunction with Mars will be a strong badhaka > > planet. > > > > > > > > Most of your planets are in the subs of rahu. I did not get into > > > > further details as it will take too much of my time. > > > > > > > > You should be careful when the signicators of 6th, 8th, 12th, and > > > > badhaka will act together in dasha, bhukti and anthras. > > > > > > > > Rahu and Venus are very strong badhaka planets for you. Venus is > > > > occupant of 9th house and no planet in its constellation. > > > > > > > > You should be very careful when rahu, venus, will act with > > > > significators of 8th house Jupiter and the 12th house > > significators > > > > mentioned above. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Strong significators: > > > > > > > > 1 SAT, VENUS > > > > 2. MERCURY > > > > 3. VENUS > > > > 4. JUPITER, MARS > > > > 5. JUPITER, SAT > > > > 6. MOON, MARS, RAHU, SAT, KETU > > > > 7. SAT > > > > 8. JUPITER > > > > 9. VENUS, MARS > > > > 10. VENUS, SAT, MERCURY, VENUS > > > > 11. MERCURY > > > > 12. SUN, MERCURY, KETU, MARS, JUPITER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, > > " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Singh, > > > > > > > > > > I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but > > just 2 > > > > > astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is > > because > > > > most > > > > > of the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. But if > > you > > > > wish > > > > > you may try. > > > > > > > > > > 28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( near > > > > > Vijaywada,Andhra). > > > > > > > > > > You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every > > where. > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, > > " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you please provide me with your birth data. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, > > " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Singh ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been > > > > admitted > > > > > > to > > > > > > > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas > > Grace. > > > > See > > > > > > these > > > > > > > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular > > > > house ( > > > > > > > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too, > > > > therefore > > > > > > one > > > > > > > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where > > in such > > > > > > cases > > > > > > > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic houses > > > > figuring > > > > > > in > > > > > > > the calculations respectively. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless its a pure case. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, > > " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40>, > > " Bhaskar " > > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where > > you have > > > > > > > > found, all > > > > > > > > > nine planets signifying one house . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens > > maybe > > > > just > > > > > > > > once in > > > > > > > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 > > > > with 7 > > > > > > > > Planets > > > > > > > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may > > not > > > > > > happen, > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in > > such > > > > rare > > > > > > > > example. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, > > and > > > > even > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such > > rare > > > > > > example > > > > > > > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP > > > > Readers, > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to > > study > > > > such > > > > > > rare > > > > > > > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40>, > > " sudhagarceg " > > > > <sudhagarceg@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > > > > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In > > some > > > > > > charts > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. > > FOr > > > > > > example > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart > > all > > > > the 9 > > > > > > > > planets > > > > > > > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > > > > > > > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents > > in > > > > all > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > periods? > > > > > > > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and > > > > comfort > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > all the periods? > > > > > > > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem > > > > > > effectively. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you sirs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 4, 2009 Dear Adithji, I thank you for bringing in a very educative subject on board, related to accidents and putting your presentation on same.// As per the points given by Sri.Kudandhai nathan (on Trigons)we have to consider the sub of the the houses 4,8,12 for accidents.When any one of the sublord of these 3 is transitting in the sign where all these 3 sublords are connected ( vide signlord,stralord and sublord), and if the Das Bukthi and Andra of these Sublords connected are running and when Sun and Moon and Asc.,are transitting in that senstive points , the accident will happen to a native. If the Bhadaka and Maraka are connected along with these, the incident will end in danger to the native. // But how does one get to the actual dates or nearabout dates with so much extensive matching of all the pointers ? This seems rather difficult. I suppose I would began by checking what the StarLord of any DashaLord has to offer, and then move on to further pointers suggested by you. // But if the 1,5,9 sub lords are connected in any sign of the chart, the native will escape from such accidents. In your case, the 1,5,9 sublords are Sun,Moon and Sun. These sensitive link can be seen in Leo, Sun sign, Sun Star and Moon sub. This is good to save you.// I am happy now. All this talk on my chart on ill health and accidents has really brought me depression mentally, since last 2-3 days. Whatever faith one may have on his Horoscope or God, after all we are humans and mortals, the fear factor is always present. I hope they also tell me when will I become wealthy enough to make my family happy, and become a better astrologer. // If we look at the 4,8,12 sub lords, surprisingly all the three happen to be Jupiter. No planet is in Jupiter.So the unfavorable link should involve in Jupiter sign,jupiter star and jupiter sub. But this link is not present in any sign. For example , if we take Pisces, Jupiter sign lord and Jupiter star lord are ok, but jupiter sub is not there. But as Jupiter is more stronger , i doubt if Jupiter sign and jupiter star lord itslef is enough to create unfovarable result? // When I change my birth timings to 10.15am, the SubLord of 4th changes to Mercury. What happens in this case ? // Moreover, The running Dasa .Bukthi must link to these. So the next Dasa Jupiter may cause such event? The running Dasa Rahu is closely conjuncted with Mars . also Rahu is the sublord of Jupiter. So when Rahu Dasa, Jupiter Bukthi, when Jupiter transits in Jupiter star and also the sun,moon and lagna are transiting in such sensitive point, may it lead to Accidents? // Also we can see Jupiter is lord of 5 and in 5 . The star lord of Jupiter Moon is the sub lord of 5th cusp, so it may help you escape such bad incidents. (as I am out of reach to my software ,as I am out , i could not go through well the transit movements and other points. but i took a copy of your chart in hand). All the above reasons may be favoarble in saving you such accidents.// I am not an expert on accidents and keep away from such fearful topics especially on my own chart . But since you have done some hard work on my chart my views are as under . I would primarily see the 8th Cuspal Sub Lord to bring in accidents . For me this planet is Jupiter. It can bring accidents through further planets connected to it as under - 1) Planets in star of occupants in 8th - I have no planets in 8th. 2) Planets in star of owner of 8th - No planet in Owner of 8th who is Jupiter again. 3) Other planets in Sub of 8th - Only Moon. But Moon is not connected to the badhaksthana in any manner, so it should be safe. Or I would rather think in this manner and keep myself free from negative thinking. By the way, the Guru antardasha, do you think could cause Heart trouble ? Or as they say 5 and 8th causes Love affair ( Platonic ?) . What do you think I would suffer from in Guru antar coming in shortly ? It may be difficult for one to reply. In both cases dil ka mamla hai. ( By the way I am not into any affair since I got married quarter of a century ago) Or do you think it could also be a birth of a child to my first child who is a daughter ? Could 5,8 denote surgery to ones child ? Thanks and regards, Bhaskar. , "adith kasinath.g.k" <gkadithkasinath wrote:>> Dear Baskarji> > Hope you received my earlier mail on the analysis.> I will be obliged if if you comment on the same> > Regards> Adith> > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 11:54 AM, adith kasinath.g.k <> gkadithkasinath wrote:> > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> >> > My rough study on your case on the accident part:> >> > As per the points given by Sri.Kudandhai nathan (on Trigons)we have to> > consider the sub of the the houses 4,8,12 for accidents.> >> > When any one of the sublord of these 3 is transitting in the sign where all> > these 3 sublords are connected ( vide signlord,stralord and sublord), and> > if the Das Bukthi and Andra of these Sublords connected are running and when> > Sun and Moon and Asc.,are transitting in that senstive points , the accident> > will happen to a native. If the Bhadaka and Maraka are connected along with> > these, the incident will end in danger to the native.> >> > But if the 1,5,9 sub lords are connected in any sign of the chart, the> > native will escape from such accidents.> >> > In your case, the 1,5,9 sublords are Sun,Moon and Sun. These sensitive link> > can be seen in Leo, Sun sign, Sun Star and Moon sub. This is good to save> > you.> >> > If we look at the 4,8,12 sub lords, surprisingly all the three happen to be> > Jupiter. No planet is in Jupiter.> > So the unfavorable link should involve in Jupiter sign,jupiter star and> > jupiter sub. But this link is not present in any sign. For example , if we> > take Pisces, Jupiter sign lord and Jupiter star lord are ok, but jupiter sub> > is not there. But as Jupiter is more stronger , i doubt if Jupiter sign and> > jupiter star lord itslef is enough to create unfovarable result?> >> > Moreover, The running Dasa .Bukthi must link to these. So the next Dasa> > Jupiter may cause such event?> > The running Dasa Rahu is closely conjuncted with Mars . also Rahu is the> > sublord of Jupiter. So when Rahu Dasa, Jupiter Bukthi, when Jupiter transits> > in Jupiter star and also the sun,moon and lagna are transiting in such> > sensitive point, may it lead to Accidents?> >> > Also we can see Jupiter is lord of 5 and in 5 . The star lord of Jupiter> > Moon is the sub lord of 5th cusp, so it may help you escape such bad> > incidents.> > (as I am out of reach to my software ,as I am out , i could not go> > through well the transit movements and other points. but i took a copy of> > your chart in hand).> >> > All the above reasons may be favoarble in saving you such accidents.> >> > Dear Bhaskar ji, these are my rough findings which I need your or other> > seniors expertise to tune up. If you address to my concerns/doubts in the> > above , that will be more appreciated and I shall be obliged.> >> > Thanks and Regards> > Adith> > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotishwrote:> >> >>> >> Dear Adithji,> >>> >> Yes .> >>> >> The RP's taken at time of judgement by are so very perfect by Pavanji,> >> that actually there is no rectification required on the birth time as> >> per my view. But my view is always open to cross examinations by the> >> Experts.> >>> >> regards/Bhaskar.> >>> >> <%40>, "adith> >> kasinath.g.k"> >>> >> gkadithkasinath@ wrote:> >> >> >> > Dear BHASKAR JI AND PAVAN JI> >> >> >> > Hope good analysis and appeal to the same.> >> >> >> > Before trying to do the BTR immediately , if we look into the any> >> > possibilities of any connection between the star/sub lord of the Asc> >> of> >> > natal with the RPs at the time if judgement may help us if any BTR is> >> > required at all.> >> >> >> > Its my humble thought.> >> > May be other memnbers analysis on this will take us into an one more> >> never> >> > ending thread.> >> >> >> > Lets wait for Ajai's analysis as Bhaskar ji has given a go ahead.> >> >> >> > Regards> >> > Adith> >> >> >> >> >> > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish:> >>> >> >> >> > > Dear Pavan ji,> >> > >> >> > > A good effort on Your part.> >> > >> >> > > A small observation -> >> > >> >> > > *At time of Your Judgement the RP's were as under -*> >> > > Ascendant lord - The Sun> >> > > Moon starLord - Venus> >> > > Moon raashi Lord - Mars> >> > > Day Lord - Moon - (Kethu )> >> > >> >> > > Ascendant star lord - Kethu> >> > >> >> > > As per my recorded time of 10.14 am the equation stands as under -> >> > >> >> > > Leo ascendant - Raashi lord - Sun, StarLord Venus, SubLord - Sun.> >> > >> >> > > *The RP's are used only for those factors on which we are doubtful> >> in the> >> > > chart.* Here the Lagna Lord is not doubtful in my natal Chart,> >> because> >> > > Lagna is at 15 degrees so no question of Lagna changing . Therefore> >> what you> >> > > are looking for confirmation , is the StarLord and the Sub lord.> >> Since we> >> > > have not used any of the above RP's for confirming the Lagna Lord,> >> even the> >> > > Sun stays in the RP's. My question to you now, is why dont you allow> >> the Sun> >> > > from the RP's to be used as the SubLord for the ascendant which in> >> any case> >> > > is The Sun, and confirms it. Of course Venus confirms the StarLord> >> as it is.> >> > > Thus the timings does not require any rectification unless one> >> wishes to> >> > > confirm the SubSubLord and fine tune it.> >> > >> >> > > But in any case, what happened to the Sun amongst the RP's you have> >> used> >> > > for rectification purposes ?> >> > >> >> > > regards,> >> > >> >> > > Bhaskar.> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > <%40>, vgr> >> pavan vgr_pavan1@ wrote:> >> > > >> >> > > > PRANAM ALL,> >> > > >> >> > > > I analysed the horoscope of sri bhaskar on 02-02-2009 @19.38> >> hrs> >> > > 16.14N, 80.35E> >> > > >> >> > > > Ruling Planets:> >> > > >> >> > > > Asc : sun kethu> >> > > >> >> > > > Moon : mar ven> >> > > >> >> > > > d.l  moon> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > Now bhaskarji`s Asc is in sun ven sun as per the recorded time. At> >> the> >> > > time of judgement ascis occupied by sat both rahu and kethu> >> represnts him.> >> > > so final r.p are sun, mars, ven, rah,kethu.as mars is moon sign> >> lord and> >> > > aspecting it from the star of sun another r.p i think he is strong.> >> mars wil> >> > > be Asc sub lord and rahu s-s lord. (i left kethu because he rules> >> his brth> >> > > star.) for confirmation i opened k.p 2 reader which give 55 on the> >> right> >> > > side page.> >> > > > (asking the query who rules his asc sub) 55 falls in mer,rah,mars.> >> > > >> >> > > > HIS BRTH TIME COMES TO 10.21 AM.> >> > > >> >> > > > NOW ASC csl Mars is in kethu star and sub of rahu. kethu in 6th> >> and rahu> >> > > is in 12th with mars in kethu star. So asc csl is clearly signifying> >> 6,12.> >> > > But please note that 6,8,12 csl is mercury l/o 2,11 in 10 (no planet> >> in mer> >> > > stars ) in the star of rahu and sub of sat(no planets in sat stars).> >> rahu in> >> > > 12 sat in 5 in sun star l/o asc in 10. So mer is signifying> >> 2,10,11,12 at> >> > > star level and 1,5,7,10 at sub level. So 6,8,and 12th cusps are> >> promising> >> > > favourable results.> >> > > > Sun,mer (l/o1,l/o11)are in sextile with asc promising good health> >> and> >> > > fast recovery.> >> > > >> >> > > > As 6th csl is mercury in a dual sign good at sub level he does not> >> having> >> > > any major health> >> > > > problems.mercury wil give fast recovery from all minor health> >> problems.> >> > > >> >> > > > Bhaskarji this is my analysis i may be wrong . if u can give> >> some of> >> > > your past events to tally your BT it will be good.> >> > > >> >> > > > learned members, correct me if i am wrong.> >> > > >> >> > > > regards.> >> > > >> >> > > > vgr> >> > > >> >> > > > Â> >> > > >> >> > > > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, sujata das sujatadash1@ wrote:> >> > > > sujata das sujatadash1@> >> > >> >> > > > Re: Re: i> >> > > > <%40>> >> > > > Monday, 2 February, 2009, 6:48 PM> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > Dear Mr Raichur> >> > > > Kindly clarify as to why Bhsker never met with an accident/> >> illhealth.> >> > > > Regards> >> > > > sujata> >> > > >> >> > > > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Raichur-a-r raichurar > wrote:> >> > > > Raichur-a-r raichurar >> >> > > > Re: Re: i> >> > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@> >> .co.> >> > > in>> >> > > > Monday, 2 February, 2009, 2:36 PM> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > dear members> >> > > > find the horoscope redrawn as per kpsw of mine. It is zipped for> >> > > transmission> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > raichur anant> >> > > >> >> > > > --- On Sun, 1/2/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:> >> > > >> >> > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> >> > > > Re: i> >> > > > @gro ups.com> >> > > > Sunday, 1 February, 2009, 7:32 PM> >> > > >> >> > > > Dear Singh,> >> > > >> >> > > > I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but just 2> >> > > > astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is because> >> most> >> > > > of the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. But if you> >> wish> >> > > > you may try.> >> > > >> >> > > > 28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( near> >> > > > Vijaywada,Andhra) .> >> > > >> >> > > > You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every where.> >> > > >> >> > > > regards/Bhaskar. .> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > @gro ups.com, "hbk1hbk_2100"> >> > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...>> >> > > > wrote:> >> > > > >> >> > > > > Hello Bhaskar,> >> > > > >> >> > > > > Could you please provide me with your birth data.> >> > > > >> >> > > > > Regards> >> > > > >> >> > > > > G. Singh> >> > > > >> >> > > > > --- In> >> > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@> >> > > > > wrote:> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > Dear Singh ji,> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been> >> admitted> >> > > > > to> >> > > > > > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas Grace.> >> See> >> > > > > these> >> > > > > > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular> >> house (> >> > > > > > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too,> >> therefore> >> > > > > one> >> > > > > > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where in> >> such> >> > > > > cases> >> > > > > > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic houses> >> figuring> >> > > > > in> >> > > > > > the calculations respectively.> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > Unless its a pure case.> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > @gro ups.com,> >> > > > "hbk1hbk_2100"> >> > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@>> >> > > > > > wrote:> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house.> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > G. Singh> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar"> >> > > > bhaskar_jyotish@> >> > > > > > > wrote:> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you> >> > > > have> >> > > > > > > found, all> >> > > > > > > > nine planets signifying one house .> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe> >> > > > just> >> > > > > > > once in> >> > > > > > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962> >> > > > with 7> >> > > > > > > Planets> >> > > > > > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not> >> > > > > happen,> >> > > > > > > but> >> > > > > > > > as per> >> > > > Traditional this signification may be there in such> >> > > > rare> >> > > > > > > example.> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and> >> > > > even> >> > > > > if> >> > > > > > > you> >> > > > > > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such> >> rare> >> > > > > example> >> > > > > > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP> >> > > > Readers,> >> > > > > and> >> > > > > > > other> >> > > > > > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study> >> > > > such> >> > > > > rare> >> > > > > > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively" .> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "sudhagarceg"> >> > > > <sudhagarceg@>> >> > > > > > > > wrote:> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs,> >> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In> >> > > > some> >> > > > > charts> >> > > > > > > i> >> > > > > > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house...> >> > > > FOr> >> > > > > example> >> > > > > > > all> >> > > > > > > > the> >> > > > > > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all> >> > > > the 9> >> > > > > > > planets> >> > > > > > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean?> >> > > > > > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get> >> > > > accidents in all> >> > > > > the> >> > > > > > > > > periods?> >> > > > > > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck> >> > > > and comfort> >> > > > > in> >> > > > > > > > > all the periods?> >> > > > > > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem> >> > > > > effectively.> >> > > > > > > > > Thank you sirs.> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> >> > > >> >> > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
