Guest guest Report post Posted January 29, 2009 Dear Sirs, Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In some charts i found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. FOr example all the nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all the 9 planets signifies 11 house. what does it mean? In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents in all the periods? In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and comfort in all the periods? Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem effectively. Thank you sirs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 29, 2009 Please give the chart details of those charts where you have found, all nine planets signifying one house . This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe just once in many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 with 7 Planets occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not happen, but as per Traditional this signification may be there in such rare example. I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and even if you have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare example charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP Readers, and other Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study such rare charts " to learn KP system effectively " . , " sudhagarceg " <sudhagarceg wrote: > > Dear Sirs, > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In some charts i > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. FOr example all the > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all the 9 planets > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents in all the > periods? > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and comfort in > all the periods? > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem effectively. > Thank you sirs. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 29, 2009 I have all nine planets signifying 11th house. G. Singh , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you have found, all > nine planets signifying one house . > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe just once in > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 with 7 Planets > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not happen, but > as per Traditional this signification may be there in such rare example. > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and even if you > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare example > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP Readers, and other > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study such rare > charts " to learn KP system effectively " . , " sudhagarceg " <sudhagarceg@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Sirs, > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In some charts i > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. FOr example all > the > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all the 9 planets > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents in all the > > periods? > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and comfort in > > all the periods? > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem effectively. > > Thank you sirs. > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 30, 2009 Respected sir, i mentioned that all 9 plantes signifies one house, not all the 9 planets in same house. For example: Sex : Male DOB : 18,November,1984 Time : 15:27 Place: Gobichettipalayam(77E27,11N28) in this natal chart all 9 signifies 8 th house.... Hope now i explained my point correctly, as am new to the kp system i may not able to expose my questions to the experts. Am very eager to learn what it means(all 9 signfies 8th house).. Thank you sir , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you have found, all > nine planets signifying one house . > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe just once in > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 with 7 Planets > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not happen, but > as per Traditional this signification may be there in such rare example. > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and even if you > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare example > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP Readers, and other > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study such rare > charts " to learn KP system effectively " . , " sudhagarceg " <sudhagarceg@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Sirs, > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In some charts i > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. FOr example all > the > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all the 9 planets > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents in all the > > periods? > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and comfort in > > all the periods? > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem effectively. > > Thank you sirs. > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 30, 2009 Congratulations. You are the most fortunate man. COULD you send us the Birth details, so wen keep on record, such a chart raichur anant --- On Fri, 30/1/09, hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100 wrote: hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100 Re: i Date: Friday, 30 January, 2009, 1:53 AMI have all nine planets signifying 11th house. G. Singh , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you have found, all > nine planets signifying one house . > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe just once in > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 with 7 Planets > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not happen, but > as per Traditional this signification may be there in such rare example. > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and even if you > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare example > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP Readers, and other > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study such rare > charts " to learn KP system effectively". > > > > > > > , "sudhagarceg" <sudhagarceg@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Sirs, > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In some charts i > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. FOr example all > the > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all the 9 planets > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents in all the > > periods? > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and comfort in > > all the periods? > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem effectively. > > Thank you sirs. > > > --- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 30, 2009 Dear Sudhagar, Yes I had understood properly what you had mentioned in your previopus post, which is why I had said that - As per Traditional , when I gave that date. By the way, occupancy of all planets ( 6- 8) in same Cusp may also be termed as " ......planets signifying x Cusp " In Your case this is not a pure case of all planets signifying the 8th Cusp , as you have 4 planets occupying the 8th Cusp while the rest in stars of these . Such cases can be plenty . Thus in your case you may not necessarily face " accidents " as you have mentioned unless the 3rd house and the karaka Venus is involved. Actually on the contrary you can do well technically as the 6th house connection to the 8th house gives financial gains, and is also good for commision through Life Insurance. I will not expand here, as I am not here to give any readings on your chart. Any technical profession or even a Surgeons profession , Computer animation, Beautician etc. can be indicated with such figures and not necessary evil results, always. regards, Bhaskar. , " sudhagarceg " <sudhagarceg wrote: > > Respected sir, > i mentioned that all 9 plantes signifies one house, not all > the 9 planets in same house. > > For example: > Sex : Male > DOB : 18,November,1984 > Time : 15:27 > Place: Gobichettipalayam(77E27,11N28) > in this natal chart all 9 signifies 8 th house.... > > Hope now i explained my point correctly, as am new to the kp system i > may not able to expose my questions to the experts. > Am very eager to learn what it means(all 9 signfies 8th house).. > Thank you sir > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote: > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you have found, > all > > nine planets signifying one house . > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe just > once in > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 with 7 > Planets > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not happen, > but > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in such rare > example. > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and even if > you > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare example > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP Readers, and > other > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study such rare > > charts " to learn KP system effectively " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sudhagarceg " <sudhagarceg@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In some charts i > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. FOr example > all > > the > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all the 9 > planets > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents in all the > > > periods? > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and comfort in > > > all the periods? > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem effectively. > > > Thank you sirs. > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 30, 2009 Dear Singh ji, I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been admitted to the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas Grace. See these are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular house ( Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too, therefore one need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where in such cases one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic houses figuring in the calculations respectively. Unless its a pure case. regards/Bhaskar. , " hbk1hbk_2100 " <hbk1hbk_2100 wrote: > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house. > > G. Singh > > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote: > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you have > found, all > > nine planets signifying one house . > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe just > once in > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 with 7 > Planets > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not happen, > but > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in such rare > example. > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and even if > you > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare example > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP Readers, and > other > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study such rare > > charts " to learn KP system effectively " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sudhagarceg " <sudhagarceg@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In some charts > i > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. FOr example > all > > the > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all the 9 > planets > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents in all the > > > periods? > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and comfort in > > > all the periods? > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem effectively. > > > Thank you sirs. > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 30, 2009 I think your Asc is not a movable one; if so, it may be entirely different as per KP. , Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: > > Congratulations. You are the most fortunate man. COULD you send us the Birth details, so wen keep on record, such a chart > > > raichur anant > > --- On Fri, 30/1/09, hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100 wrote: > > hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100 > Re: i > > Friday, 30 January, 2009, 1:53 AM > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house. > > G. Singh > > > , " Bhaskar " > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you have > found, all > > nine planets signifying one house . > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe just > once in > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 with 7 > Planets > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not happen, > but > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in such rare > example. > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and even if > you > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare example > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP Readers, and > other > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study such rare > > charts " to learn KP system effectively " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sudhagarceg " > <sudhagarceg@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In some charts > i > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. FOr example > all > > the > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all the 9 > planets > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents in all the > > > periods? > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and comfort in > > > all the periods? > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem effectively. > > > Thank you sirs. > > > > > > > > > --- > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 30, 2009  Dear Raichur I do not agree. May be he is trying to get married yet. Instead I feel you are the most fortunate man to have long life Regards Sudhir Consulting astrologer - Raichur-a-r Friday, January 30, 2009 12:33 PM Re: Re: i Congratulations. You are the most fortunate man. COULD you send us the Birth details, so wen keep on record, such a chart raichur anant --- On Fri, 30/1/09, hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100 > wrote: hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100 > Re: i Date: Friday, 30 January, 2009, 1:53 AMI have all nine planets signifying 11th house. G. Singh , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you have found, all > nine planets signifying one house . > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe just once in > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 with 7 Planets > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not happen, but > as per Traditional this signification may be there in such rare example. > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and even if you > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare example > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP Readers, and other > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study such rare > charts " to learn KP system effectively". > > > > > > > , "sudhagarceg" <sudhagarceg@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Sirs, > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In some charts i > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. FOr example all > the > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all the 9 planets > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents in all the > > periods? > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and comfort in > > all the periods? > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem effectively. > > Thank you sirs. > > > --- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 30, 2009 , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Thank You Bhaskar sir, Thank you for clearing my doubt. Actually i have got selected as JTO in BSNL (as you have mentioned TECHNICAL field) and waiting for training. Your reply shows your interest in making others to know kp system.... Hats off sir... Thank you once again. > > > Dear Sudhagar, > > Yes I had understood properly what you had mentioned in your previopus > post, which is why I had said that - As per Traditional , when I gave > that date. > > By the way, occupancy of all planets ( 6- 8) in same Cusp may also be > termed as " ......planets signifying x Cusp " > > In Your case this is not a pure case of all planets signifying the 8th > Cusp , as you have 4 planets occupying the 8th Cusp while the rest in > stars of these . Such cases can be plenty . Thus in your case you may > not necessarily face " accidents " as you have mentioned unless the 3rd > house and the karaka Venus is involved. Actually on the contrary you can > do well technically as the 6th house connection to the 8th house gives > financial gains, and is also good for commision through Life Insurance. > I will not expand here, as I am not here to give any readings on your > chart. Any technical profession or even a Surgeons profession , Computer > animation, Beautician etc. can be indicated with such figures and not > necessary evil results, always. > > regards, > > Bhaskar. , " sudhagarceg " <sudhagarceg@> > wrote: > > > > Respected sir, > > i mentioned that all 9 plantes signifies one house, not all > > the 9 planets in same house. > > > > For example: > > Sex : Male > > DOB : 18,November,1984 > > Time : 15:27 > > Place: Gobichettipalayam(77E27,11N28) > > in this natal chart all 9 signifies 8 th house.... > > > > Hope now i explained my point correctly, as am new to the kp system i > > may not able to expose my questions to the experts. > > Am very eager to learn what it means(all 9 signfies 8th house).. > > Thank you sir > > > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you have found, > > all > > > nine planets signifying one house . > > > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe just > > once in > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 with 7 > > Planets > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not happen, > > but > > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in such rare > > example. > > > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and even if > > you > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare example > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP Readers, and > > other > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study such rare > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sudhagarceg " <sudhagarceg@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In some charts i > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. FOr example > > all > > > the > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all the 9 > > planets > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents in all the > > > > periods? > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and comfort in > > > > all the periods? > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem effectively. > > > > Thank you sirs. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 30, 2009 Dear Sudhir, On what base do you feel that he is still trying to get married. Please explain this. Those who are fortunate to have long Life, have done good deeds in their previous Lives, which is why we must respect them. I agree with Shri Raichurji. But why you disagree has to be explained point wise, with astrological pointers. As far as Shri Raichurji is concerned, there is nothing to prove, for indeed any person having all planets signifying 11th house, would be certainly consiered the most fortunate. You must explain your comments, in light of above. regards/Bhaskar. , " sudhir " <taurus.sudhir wrote: > > Dear Raichur > > I do not agree. May be he is trying to get married yet. > > Instead I feel you are the most fortunate man to have long life > > Regards > > Sudhir > Consulting astrologer > ------\ -------- > > > > - > Raichur-a-r > > Friday, January 30, 2009 12:33 PM > Re: Re: i > > > Congratulations. You are the most fortunate man. COULD you send us the Birth details, so wen keep on record, such a chart > > > raichur anant > > > --- On Fri, 30/1/09, hbk1hbk_2100 hbk1hbk_2100 wrote: > > hbk1hbk_2100 hbk1hbk_2100 > Re: i > > Friday, 30 January, 2009, 1:53 AM > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house. > > G. Singh > > > , " Bhaskar " > bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote: > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you have > found, all > > nine planets signifying one house . > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe just > once in > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 with 7 > Planets > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not happen, > but > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in such rare > example. > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and even if > you > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare example > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP Readers, and > other > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study such rare > > charts " to learn KP system effectively " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sudhagarceg " > <sudhagarceg@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In some charts > i > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. FOr example > all > > the > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all the 9 > planets > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents in all the > > > periods? > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and comfort in > > > all the periods? > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem effectively. > > > Thank you sirs. > > > > > > > > > --- > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 30, 2009 Dear Tw ji, The question here is not to point out the badhaksthana for Cardinal, Fixed or Mutable signs, but the agenda here is how can all planets signify the 11th house ? Please shed some light on this . regards/Bhaskar. , " tw853 " <tw853 wrote: > > I think your Asc is not a movable one; if so, it may be entirely > different as per KP. > > > , Raichur-a-r raichurar@ wrote: > > > > Congratulations. You are the most fortunate man. COULD you send us > the Birth details, so wen keep on record, such a chart > > > > > > raichur anant > > > > --- On Fri, 30/1/09, hbk1hbk_2100 hbk1hbk_2100@ wrote: > > > > hbk1hbk_2100 hbk1hbk_2100@ > > Re: i > > > > Friday, 30 January, 2009, 1:53 AM > > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house. > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you have > > found, all > > > nine planets signifying one house . > > > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe just > > once in > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 with 7 > > Planets > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not > happen, > > but > > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in such rare > > example. > > > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and even > if > > you > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare > example > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP Readers, > and > > other > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study such > rare > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sudhagarceg " > > <sudhagarceg@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In some > charts > > i > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. FOr example > > all > > > the > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all the 9 > > planets > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents in all the > > > > periods? > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and comfort in > > > > all the periods? > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem effectively. > > > > Thank you sirs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 31, 2009 Dear Bhaskar, I know his chart very well. Best wishes, Sudhir Consulting astrologer - Bhaskar Friday, January 30, 2009 10:05 PM Re: i Dear Sudhir,On what base do you feel that he is still trying to get married. Pleaseexplain this.Those who are fortunate to have long Life, have done good deeds in theirprevious Lives, which is why we must respect them.I agree with Shri Raichurji. But why you disagree has to be explainedpoint wise, with astrological pointers.As far as Shri Raichurji is concerned, there is nothing to prove, forindeed any person having all planets signifying 11th house, would becertainly consiered the most fortunate.You must explain your comments, in light of above.regards/Bhaskar. , "sudhir" <taurus.sudhir wrote:>> Dear Raichur>> I do not agree. May be he is trying to get married yet.>> Instead I feel you are the most fortunate man to have long life>> Regards>> Sudhir> Consulting astrologer>-------------------------\-------->>>> -> Raichur-a-r> > Friday, January 30, 2009 12:33 PM> Re: Re: i>>> Congratulations. You are the most fortunate man. COULD you send us theBirth details, so wen keep on record, such a chart>>> raichur anant>>> --- On Fri, 30/1/09, hbk1hbk_2100 hbk1hbk_2100 wrote:>> hbk1hbk_2100 hbk1hbk_2100 Re: i> > Friday, 30 January, 2009, 1:53 AM>>> I have all nine planets signifying 11th house.>> G. Singh>>> , "Bhaskar"> bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:> >> >> > Please give the chart details of those charts where you have> found, all> > nine planets signifying one house .> >> > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe just> once in> > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 with 7> Planets> > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not happen,> but> > as per Traditional this signification may be there in such rare> example.> >> > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and even if> you> > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare example> > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP Readers, and> other> > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study such rare> > charts " to learn KP system effectively".> >> >> >> >> >> >> > , "sudhagarceg"> <sudhagarceg@>> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sirs,> > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In some charts> i> > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. FOr example> all> > the> > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all the 9> planets> > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean?> > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents in all the> > > periods?> > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and comfort in> > > all the periods?> > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem effectively.> > > Thank you sirs.> > >> >>>>> --->> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 31, 2009 Dear Sudhagarji, I hope it is your good name. I beg excuse if I am wrong. Kindly send the birth detals of the person in whose chart all 9 planets signify VIII. Some points may be brought to the table of the group, why he should not meet accidents in all periods. There is no point in just saying they signify VIII. One of the senior members may take up the case to enlighten what is what. I request every senior member who has the answer.There may be very many things in the chart to learn. We may be able to have an idea why a planet signifying a house does not give the result. It's my sincere request to all to be involved in the mater. With due regards to all members. Dr. Luther Rath. Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 10:05:37 PM Re: i Dear Sudhir,On what base do you feel that he is still trying to get married. Pleaseexplain this.Those who are fortunate to have long Life, have done good deeds in theirprevious Lives, which is why we must respect them.I agree with Shri Raichurji. But why you disagree has to be explainedpoint wise, with astrological pointers.As far as Shri Raichurji is concerned, there is nothing to prove, forindeed any person having all planets signifying 11th house, would becertainly consiered the most fortunate.You must explain your comments, in light of above.regards/Bhaskar.@gro ups.com, "sudhir" <taurus.sudhir@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Raichur>> I do not agree. May be he is trying to get married yet.>> Instead I feel you are the most fortunate man to have long life>> Regards>> Sudhir> Consulting astrologer>------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -\-------->>>> -> Raichur-a-r> @gro ups.com> Friday, January 30, 2009 12:33 PM> Re: Re: i>>> Congratulations. You are the most fortunate man. COULD you send us theBirth details, so wen keep on record, such a chart>>> raichur anant>>> --- On Fri, 30/1/09, hbk1hbk_2100 hbk1hbk_2100@ ... wrote:>> hbk1hbk_2100 hbk1hbk_2100@ ...> Re: i> @gro ups.com> Friday, 30 January, 2009, 1:53 AM>>> I have all nine planets signifying 11th house.>> G. Singh>>> @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar"> bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:> >> >> > Please give the chart details of those charts where you have> found, all> > nine planets signifying one house .> >> > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe just> once in> > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 with 7> Planets> > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not happen,> but> > as per Traditional this signification may be there in such rare> example.> >> > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and even if> you> > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare example> > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP Readers, and> other> > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study such rare> > charts " to learn KP system effectively" .> >> >> >> >> >> >> > @gro ups.com, "sudhagarceg"> <sudhagarceg@ >> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sirs,> > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In some charts> i> > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. FOr example> all> > the> > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all the 9> planets> > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean?> > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents in all the> > > periods?> > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and comfort in> > > all the periods?> > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem effectively.> > > Thank you sirs.> > >> >>>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------>> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 31, 2009 Dear Bhaskarji, Thank you very much for the hints given on the chart of Sudhagarji. As a mater of fact I did not want initially to enter in to this issue, so I was silent. After finding so many messages I was dragged in. Thsnking you. Dr. Luther Rath sudhagarceg <sudhagarceg Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 9:51:13 PM Re: i @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:Thank You Bhaskar sir,Thank you for clearing my doubt. Actually i have got selected as JTO in BSNL (as you have mentioned TECHNICAL field) and waiting for training. Your reply shows your interest in making others to know kp system.... Hats off sir... Thank you once again.>> > Dear Sudhagar,> > Yes I had understood properly what you had mentioned in your previopus> post, which is why I had said that - As per Traditional , when I gave> that date.> > By the way, occupancy of all planets ( 6- 8) in same Cusp may also be> termed as "......planets signifying x Cusp "> > In Your case this is not a pure case of all planets signifying the 8th> Cusp , as you have 4 planets occupying the 8th Cusp while the rest in> stars of these . Such cases can be plenty . Thus in your case you may> not necessarily face " accidents " as you have mentioned unless the 3rd> house and the karaka Venus is involved. Actually on the contrary you can> do well technically as the 6th house connection to the 8th house gives> financial gains, and is also good for commision through Life Insurance.> I will not expand here, as I am not here to give any readings on your> chart. Any technical profession or even a Surgeons profession , Computer> animation, Beautician etc. can be indicated with such figures and not> necessary evil results, always.> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "sudhagarceg" <sudhagarceg@ >> wrote:> >> > Respected sir,> > i mentioned that all 9 plantes signifies one house, not all> > the 9 planets in same house.> >> > For example:> > Sex : Male> > DOB : 18,November, 1984> > Time : 15:27> > Place: Gobichettipalayam( 77E27,11N28)> > in this natal chart all 9 signifies 8 th house....> >> > Hope now i explained my point correctly, as am new to the kp system i> > may not able to expose my questions to the experts.> > Am very eager to learn what it means(all 9 signfies 8th house)..> > Thank you sir> >> > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote:> > >> > >> > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you have found,> > all> > > nine planets signifying one house .> > >> > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe just> > once in> > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 with 7> > Planets> > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not happen,> > but> > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in such rare> > example.> > >> > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and even if> > you> > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare example> > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP Readers, and> > other> > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study such rare> > > charts " to learn KP system effectively" .> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > @gro ups.com, "sudhagarceg" <sudhagarceg@ >> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sirs,> > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In some charts i> > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. FOr example> > all> > > the> > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all the 9> > planets> > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean?> > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents in all the> > > > periods?> > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and comfort in> > > > all the periods?> > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem effectively.> > > > Thank you sirs.> > > >> > >> >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 31, 2009 my birth time ..8.30am,place...kalimpong(w.b.) date....10oct.1970,.in 1995 i lost my eldest brother, & in 19 oct 2003 my father expired.plz. guide when i got a job & in which field--- On Thu, 29/1/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: i Date: Thursday, 29 January, 2009, 7:54 PMPlease give the chart details of those charts where you have found, all nine planets signifying one house . This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe just once in many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 with 7 Planets occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not happen, but as per Traditional this signification may be there in such rare example. I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and even if you have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare example charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP Readers, and other Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study such rare charts " to learn KP system effectively". , "sudhagarceg" <sudhagarceg wrote: > > Dear Sirs, > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In some charts i > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. FOr example all the > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all the 9 planets > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents in all the > periods? > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and comfort in > all the periods? > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem effectively. > Thank you sirs. > --- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 1, 2009 Hello Bhaskar, Could you please provide me with your birth data. Regards G. Singh , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Singh ji, > > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been admitted to > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas Grace. See these > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular house ( > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too, therefore one > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where in such cases > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic houses figuring in > the calculations respectively. > > Unless its a pure case. > > regards/Bhaskar. , " hbk1hbk_2100 " <hbk1hbk_2100@> > wrote: > > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house. > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you have > > found, all > > > nine planets signifying one house . > > > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe just > > once in > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 with 7 > > Planets > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not happen, > > but > > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in such rare > > example. > > > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and even if > > you > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare example > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP Readers, and > > other > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study such rare > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sudhagarceg " <sudhagarceg@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In some charts > > i > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. FOr example > > all > > > the > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all the 9 > > planets > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents in all the > > > > periods? > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and comfort in > > > > all the periods? > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem effectively. > > > > Thank you sirs. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 1, 2009 Respected sir Planets signifying to any house do not mean that it is going to give good result in all cases(i.e if all planets signifies 11 he will be most fortunate man)or bad results always(i.e if signify 8th will meet accident or danger always). It is the sub which will only decide what result for any planet is stored in destiny for that house. In addition to above if same planet is also the significator of 12th (either from 11 or 8th )then how it will give strong support for 11th or 8th. we should also not forget to see other cusp connection for any planet to finally decide its result for particular house,how can we declare accident after getting 8th signification of any planet but without having any connection with lagna . On the basis of above little knowledge my humble request is that due to only simple reason that all planets are signifying 11 one will not be most fortunate native or having all planets signification of 8th he is not bound to fell into accident always. I would like to see other seniors view on it. With Regards AMIT , Luther Rath <rathluther wrote: > > Dear Sudhagarji, > I hope it is your good name. I beg excuse if I am wrong. > Kindly send the birth detals of the person in whose chart all 9 planets signify VIII. Some points may be brought to the table of the group, why he should not meet accidents in all periods. There is no point in just saying they signify VIII. One of the senior members may take up the case to enlighten what is what. I request every senior member who has the answer.There may be very many things in the chart to learn. We may be able to have an idea why a planet signifying a house does not give the result. > It's my sincere request to all to be involved in the mater. > With due regards to all members. > Dr. Luther Rath. > > > > > ________________________________ > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish > > Friday, January 30, 2009 10:05:37 PM > Re: i > > > > Dear Sudhir, > > On what base do you feel that he is still trying to get married. Please > explain this. > > Those who are fortunate to have long Life, have done good deeds in their > previous Lives, which is why we must respect them. > > I agree with Shri Raichurji. But why you disagree has to be explained > point wise, with astrological pointers. > > As far as Shri Raichurji is concerned, there is nothing to prove, for > indeed any person having all planets signifying 11th house, would be > certainly consiered the most fortunate. > > You must explain your comments, in light of above. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > @gro ups.com, " sudhir " <taurus.sudhir@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Raichur > > > > I do not agree. May be he is trying to get married yet. > > > > Instead I feel you are the most fortunate man to have long life > > > > Regards > > > > Sudhir > > Consulting astrologer > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -\ > -------- > > > > > > > > - > > Raichur-a-r > > @gro ups.com > > Friday, January 30, 2009 12:33 PM > > Re: Re: i > > > > > > Congratulations. You are the most fortunate man. COULD you send us the > Birth details, so wen keep on record, such a chart > > > > > > raichur anant > > > > > > --- On Fri, 30/1/09, hbk1hbk_2100 hbk1hbk_2100@ ... wrote: > > > > hbk1hbk_2100 hbk1hbk_2100@ ... > > Re: i > > @gro ups.com > > Friday, 30 January, 2009, 1:53 AM > > > > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house. > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " > > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you have > > found, all > > > nine planets signifying one house . > > > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe just > > once in > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 with 7 > > Planets > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not happen, > > but > > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in such rare > > example. > > > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and even if > > you > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare example > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP Readers, and > > other > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study such rare > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " sudhagarceg " > > <sudhagarceg@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In some charts > > i > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. FOr example > > all > > > the > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all the 9 > > planets > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents in all the > > > > periods? > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and comfort in > > > > all the periods? > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem effectively. > > > > Thank you sirs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 1, 2009 Hello Raichur ji, My birth data is as follows: Feb 3rd, 1962 10:13:35 AM Ludhiana I am just about to complete Jupiter/Saturn period. My income almost doubled in Jupiter/Saturn period, but expenses went up considerably as well. I have every planet significator of 11th house. But I have seen when I had gone through dasha bhukti of significators of 8th, 12th, and badhaka, then I faced difficult time. In this case the dasha and bhukti have to represent 8th, 12th and badhaka at same time. But still it was not so bad because the planets that represent 8th, 12th, and badhaka also represented the 11th house as well. Please send me your thoughts if you can. Regards G. Singh , Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: > > Congratulations. You are the most fortunate man. COULD you send us the Birth details, so wen keep on record, such a chart > > > raichur anant > > --- On Fri, 30/1/09, hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100 wrote: > > hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100 > Re: i > > Friday, 30 January, 2009, 1:53 AM > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house. > > G. Singh > > > , " Bhaskar " > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you have > found, all > > nine planets signifying one house . > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe just > once in > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 with 7 > Planets > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not happen, > but > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in such rare > example. > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and even if > you > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare example > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP Readers, and > other > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study such rare > > charts " to learn KP system effectively " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sudhagarceg " > <sudhagarceg@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In some charts > i > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. FOr example > all > > the > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all the 9 > planets > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents in all the > > > periods? > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and comfort in > > > all the periods? > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem effectively. > > > Thank you sirs. > > > > > > > > > --- > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 1, 2009 Dear Friends, Let me share some thoughts about my chart. I am not trying to get married. Yes, I am single, but I had many relationships with many very good looking women. I am very good looking and handsome. I am 47 years old but look like 32 years old. Meeting women is not a problem. Not interested so much in marriage, and Kids. I am US Citizen,living in US for long time. I am very good in astrology (KP) as I have jupiter, mercury ketu in the constellation of 2nd and 9th lord mars and mars is very close to the 11th house cusp. I do agree that I have very long life and good health as 11th house negates 12th house and 6th house affairs. The real raj yoga will come in Jupiter / Mercury period when Ketu will transit jupiter's nakshatra in Gemini sign in the second half of this year or early next year. Regards G. Singh , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Sudhir, > > On what base do you feel that he is still trying to get married. Please > explain this. > > Those who are fortunate to have long Life, have done good deeds in their > previous Lives, which is why we must respect them. > > I agree with Shri Raichurji. But why you disagree has to be explained > point wise, with astrological pointers. > > As far as Shri Raichurji is concerned, there is nothing to prove, for > indeed any person having all planets signifying 11th house, would be > certainly consiered the most fortunate. > > You must explain your comments, in light of above. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > , " sudhir " <taurus.sudhir@> wrote: > > > > Dear Raichur > > > > I do not agree. May be he is trying to get married yet. > > > > Instead I feel you are the most fortunate man to have long life > > > > Regards > > > > Sudhir > > Consulting astrologer > > > -- ----\ > -------- > > > > > > > > - > > Raichur-a-r > > > > Friday, January 30, 2009 12:33 PM > > Re: Re: i > > > > > > Congratulations. You are the most fortunate man. COULD you send us the > Birth details, so wen keep on record, such a chart > > > > > > raichur anant > > > > > > --- On Fri, 30/1/09, hbk1hbk_2100 hbk1hbk_2100@ wrote: > > > > hbk1hbk_2100 hbk1hbk_2100@ > > Re: i > > > > Friday, 30 January, 2009, 1:53 AM > > > > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house. > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you have > > found, all > > > nine planets signifying one house . > > > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe just > > once in > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 with 7 > > Planets > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not happen, > > but > > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in such rare > > example. > > > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and even if > > you > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare example > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP Readers, and > > other > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study such rare > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sudhagarceg " > > <sudhagarceg@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In some charts > > i > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. FOr example > > all > > > the > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all the 9 > > planets > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents in all the > > > > periods? > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and comfort in > > > > all the periods? > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem effectively. > > > > Thank you sirs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 1, 2009 Dear Sirs, I agree what Amitji opines. To be more practical let some one pesent his chart with analysis and match with time of incidents in his life. That would be more helpful. Thank you Amitji. Dr. Luther Rath. dubeyamitkumar <dubeyamitkumar Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2009 11:28:45 AM Re: i Respected sirPlanets signifying to any house do not mean that itis going to give good result in all cases(i.e if all planets signifies11 he will be most fortunate man)or bad results always(i.e if signify8th will meet accident or danger always).It is the sub which will only decide what resultfor any planet is stored in destiny for that house.In addition to above if same planet is also thesignificator of 12th (either from 11 or 8th )then how it will givestrong support for 11th or 8th.we should also not forget to see other cuspconnection for any planet to finally decide its result for particularhouse,how can we declare accident after getting 8th signification ofany planet but without having any connection with lagna .On the basis of above little knowledge my humblerequest is that due to only simple reason that all planets aresignifying 11 one will not be most fortunate native or having allplanets signification of 8th he is not bound to fell into accident always.I would like to see other seniors view on it.With RegardsAMIT@gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sudhagarji,> I hope it is your good name. I beg excuse if I am wrong.> Kindly send the birth detals of the person in whose chart all 9planets signify VIII. Some points may be brought to the table of thegroup, why he should not meet accidents in all periods. There is nopoint in just saying they signify VIII. One of the senior members maytake up the case to enlighten what is what. I request every seniormember who has the answer.There may be very many things in the chartto learn. We may be able to have an idea why a planet signifying ahouse does not give the result.> It's my sincere request to all to be involved in the mater.> With due regards to all members.> Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> @. ..> Friday, January 30, 2009 10:05:37 PM> Re: i> > > > Dear Sudhir,> > On what base do you feel that he is still trying to get married. Please> explain this.> > Those who are fortunate to have long Life, have done good deeds in their> previous Lives, which is why we must respect them.> > I agree with Shri Raichurji. But why you disagree has to be explained> point wise, with astrological pointers.> > As far as Shri Raichurji is concerned, there is nothing to prove, for> indeed any person having all planets signifying 11th house, would be> certainly consiered the most fortunate.> > You must explain your comments, in light of above.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > @gro ups.com, "sudhir" <taurus.sudhir@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Raichur> >> > I do not agree. May be he is trying to get married yet.> >> > Instead I feel you are the most fortunate man to have long life> >> > Regards> >> > Sudhir> > Consulting astrologer> >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -\> --------> >> >> >> > -> > Raichur-a-r> > @gro ups.com> > Friday, January 30, 2009 12:33 PM> > Re: Re: i> >> >> > Congratulations. You are the most fortunate man. COULD you send us the> Birth details, so wen keep on record, such a chart> >> >> > raichur anant> >> >> > --- On Fri, 30/1/09, hbk1hbk_2100 hbk1hbk_2100@ ... wrote:> >> > hbk1hbk_2100 hbk1hbk_2100@ ...> > Re: i> > @gro ups.com> > Friday, 30 January, 2009, 1:53 AM> >> >> > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house.> >> > G. Singh> >> >> > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar"> > bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote:> > >> > >> > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you have> > found, all> > > nine planets signifying one house .> > >> > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe just> > once in> > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 with 7> > Planets> > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not happen,> > but> > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in such rare> > example.> > >> > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and even if> > you> > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare example> > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP Readers, and> > other> > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study such rare> > > charts " to learn KP system effectively" .> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > @gro ups.com, "sudhagarceg"> > <sudhagarceg@ >> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sirs,> > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In some charts> > i> > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. FOr example> > all> > > the> > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all the 9> > planets> > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean?> > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents in all the> > > > periods?> > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and comfort in> > > > all the periods?> > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem effectively.> > > > Thank you sirs.> > > >> > >> >> >> >> > ------------ --------- --------- ------> >> > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 1, 2009 nO COMMENTS raichur anant --- On Sun, 1/2/09, hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100 wrote: hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100 Re: i Date: Sunday, 1 February, 2009, 11:36 AMHello Raichur ji, My birth data is as follows: Feb 3rd, 1962 10:13:35 AM Ludhiana I am just about to complete Jupiter/Saturn period. My income almost doubled in Jupiter/Saturn period, but expenses went up considerably as well. I have every planet significator of 11th house. But I have seen when I had gone through dasha bhukti of significators of 8th, 12th, and badhaka, then I faced difficult time. In this case the dasha and bhukti have to represent 8th, 12th and badhaka at same time. But still it was not so bad because the planets that represent 8th, 12th, and badhaka also represented the 11th house as well. Please send me your thoughts if you can. Regards G. Singh , Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: > > Congratulations. You are the most fortunate man. COULD you send us the Birth details, so wen keep on record, such a chart > > > raichur anant > > --- On Fri, 30/1/09, hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100 wrote: > > hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100 > Re: i > > Friday, 30 January, 2009, 1:53 AM > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house. > > G. Singh > > > , "Bhaskar" > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you have > found, all > > nine planets signifying one house . > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe just > once in > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 with 7 > Planets > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not happen, > but > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in such rare > example. > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and even if > you > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare example > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP Readers, and > other > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study such rare > > charts " to learn KP system effectively". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "sudhagarceg" > <sudhagarceg@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In some charts > i > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. FOr example > all > > the > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all the 9 > planets > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents in all the > > > periods? > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and comfort in > > > all the periods? > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem effectively. > > > Thank you sirs. > > > > > > > > > --- > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 1, 2009 Dear Group,To say a person having all the planets and nodes as ths significator of XI house being very lucky came as a surprise to me as well. But, I guess what Mr. Raichur ji implied was in very general terms, XI house being associated with finances. This would naturally mean that no matter what dasha or bhukti the native is running, there will be improvement in his monetary situation. Of course, it does not mean the native will be lucky in all walks of life!This is my understanding, though I am highly inexperiened in KP. Seniors will please correct me.RegardsSunil--- On Sun, 2/1/09, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote: Luther Rath <rathlutherRe: Re: i Date: Sunday, February 1, 2009, 7:22 AM Dear Sirs, I agree what Amitji opines. To be more practical let some one pesent his chart with analysis and match with time of incidents in his life. That would be more helpful. Thank you Amitji. Dr. Luther Rath. dubeyamitkumar <dubeyamitkumar@ >@gro ups.comSunday, February 1, 2009 11:28:45 AM Re: i Respected sirPlanets signifying to any house do not mean that itis going to give good result in all cases(i.e if all planets signifies11 he will be most fortunate man)or bad results always(i.e if signify8th will meet accident or danger always).It is the sub which will only decide what resultfor any planet is stored in destiny for that house.In addition to above if same planet is also thesignificator of 12th (either from 11 or 8th )then how it will givestrong support for 11th or 8th.we should also not forget to see other cuspconnection for any planet to finally decide its result for particularhouse,how can we declare accident after getting 8th signification ofany planet but without having any connection with lagna .On the basis of above little knowledge my humblerequest is that due to only simple reason that all planets aresignifying 11 one will not be most fortunate native or having allplanets signification of 8th he is not bound to fell into accident always.I would like to see other seniors view on it.With RegardsAMIT@gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sudhagarji,> I hope it is your good name. I beg excuse if I am wrong.> Kindly send the birth detals of the person in whose chart all 9planets signify VIII. Some points may be brought to the table of thegroup, why he should not meet accidents in all periods. There is nopoint in just saying they signify VIII. One of the senior members maytake up the case to enlighten what is what. I request every seniormember who has the answer.There may be very many things in the chartto learn. We may be able to have an idea why a planet signifying ahouse does not give the result.> It's my sincere request to all to be involved in the mater.> With due regards to all members.> Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> @. ..> Friday, January 30, 2009 10:05:37 PM> Re: i> > > > Dear Sudhir,> > On what base do you feel that he is still trying to get married. Please> explain this.> > Those who are fortunate to have long Life, have done good deeds in their> previous Lives, which is why we must respect them.> > I agree with Shri Raichurji. But why you disagree has to be explained> point wise, with astrological pointers.> > As far as Shri Raichurji is concerned, there is nothing to prove, for> indeed any person having all planets signifying 11th house, would be> certainly consiered the most fortunate.> > You must explain your comments, in light of above.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > @gro ups.com, "sudhir" <taurus.sudhir@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Raichur> >> > I do not agree. May be he is trying to get married yet.> >> > Instead I feel you are the most fortunate man to have long life> >> > Regards> >> > Sudhir> > Consulting astrologer> >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -\> --------> >> >> >> > -> > Raichur-a-r> > @gro ups.com> > Friday, January 30, 2009 12:33 PM> > Subject: Re: Re: i> >> >> > Congratulations. You are the most fortunate man. COULD you send us the> Birth details, so wen keep on record, such a chart> >> >> > raichur anant> >> >> > --- On Fri, 30/1/09, hbk1hbk_2100 hbk1hbk_2100@ ... wrote:> >> > hbk1hbk_2100 hbk1hbk_2100@ ...> > Re: i> > @gro ups.com> > Friday, 30 January, 2009, 1:53 AM> >> >> > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house.> >> > G. Singh> >> >> > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar"> > bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote:> > >> > >> > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you have> > found, all> > > nine planets signifying one house .> > >> > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe just> > once in> > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 with 7> > Planets> > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not happen,> > but> > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in such rare> > example.> > >> > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and even if> > you> > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare example> > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP Readers, and> > other> > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study such rare> > > charts " to learn KP system effectively" .> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > @gro ups.com, "sudhagarceg"> > <sudhagarceg@ >> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sirs,> > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In some charts> > i> > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. FOr example> > all> > > the> > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all the 9> > planets> > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean?> > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents in all the> > > > periods?> > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and comfort in> > > > all the periods?> > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem effectively.> > > > Thank you sirs.> > > >> > >> >> >> >> > ------------ --------- --------- ------> >> > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 1, 2009 Dear Singh, I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but just 2 astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is because most of the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. But if you wish you may try. 28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( near Vijaywada,Andhra). You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every where. regards/Bhaskar. , " hbk1hbk_2100 " <hbk1hbk_2100 wrote: > > Hello Bhaskar, > > Could you please provide me with your birth data. > > Regards > > G. Singh > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Singh ji, > > > > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been admitted > to > > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas Grace. See > these > > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular house ( > > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too, therefore > one > > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where in such > cases > > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic houses figuring > in > > the calculations respectively. > > > > Unless its a pure case. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " hbk1hbk_2100 " <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > wrote: > > > > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house. > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you have > > > found, all > > > > nine planets signifying one house . > > > > > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe just > > > once in > > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 with 7 > > > Planets > > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not > happen, > > > but > > > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in such rare > > > example. > > > > > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and even > if > > > you > > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare > example > > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP Readers, > and > > > other > > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study such > rare > > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sudhagarceg " <sudhagarceg@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In some > charts > > > i > > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. FOr > example > > > all > > > > the > > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all the 9 > > > planets > > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents in all > the > > > > > periods? > > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and comfort > in > > > > > all the periods? > > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem > effectively. > > > > > Thank you sirs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 1, 2009 Hello Bhaskar, 1. You have Moon, Mars, Rahu in the constellation of Ketu in 6th house. 2. Jupiter is the strong significator of 8th house as there is no planet in jupiter's nakshatra, and there is no occupant in eighth house. 3. Sun, Mercury, Ketu, Mars, rahu, jupiter, Moon are significators of 12th house. 4. For Leo ascendant Mars is the badhaka planet as it rules the 9th house. Rahu in conjunction with Mars will be a strong badhaka planet. Most of your planets are in the subs of rahu. I did not get into further details as it will take too much of my time. You should be careful when the signicators of 6th, 8th, 12th, and badhaka will act together in dasha, bhukti and anthras. Rahu and Venus are very strong badhaka planets for you. Venus is occupant of 9th house and no planet in its constellation. You should be very careful when rahu, venus, will act with significators of 8th house Jupiter and the 12th house significators mentioned above. Regards G. Singh Strong significators: 1 SAT, VENUS 2. MERCURY 3. VENUS 4. JUPITER, MARS 5. JUPITER, SAT 6. MOON, MARS, RAHU, SAT, KETU 7. SAT 8. JUPITER 9. VENUS, MARS 10. VENUS, SAT, MERCURY, VENUS 11. MERCURY 12. SUN, MERCURY, KETU, MARS, JUPITER , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Singh, > > I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but just 2 > astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is because most > of the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. But if you wish > you may try. > > 28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( near > Vijaywada,Andhra). > > You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every where. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > , " hbk1hbk_2100 " <hbk1hbk_2100@> > wrote: > > > > Hello Bhaskar, > > > > Could you please provide me with your birth data. > > > > Regards > > > > G. Singh > > > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Singh ji, > > > > > > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been admitted > > to > > > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas Grace. See > > these > > > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular house ( > > > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too, therefore > > one > > > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where in such > > cases > > > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic houses figuring > > in > > > the calculations respectively. > > > > > > Unless its a pure case. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " hbk1hbk_2100 " <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house. > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you have > > > > found, all > > > > > nine planets signifying one house . > > > > > > > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe just > > > > once in > > > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 with 7 > > > > Planets > > > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not > > happen, > > > > but > > > > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in such rare > > > > example. > > > > > > > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and even > > if > > > > you > > > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare > > example > > > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP Readers, > > and > > > > other > > > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study such > > rare > > > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sudhagarceg " <sudhagarceg@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In some > > charts > > > > i > > > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. FOr > > example > > > > all > > > > > the > > > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all the 9 > > > > planets > > > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > > > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents in all > > the > > > > > > periods? > > > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and comfort > > in > > > > > > all the periods? > > > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem > > effectively. > > > > > > Thank you sirs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
