Guest guest Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 Dear Bohra ji,Can you please take G. Singh ji's chart as an example and explain what you mean by using sub and sub-sub in such situation? Also when we should use sub and sub-sub? Only when we have many planets in one house or always? Would appreicaite if you can take a chart as an example to explain your point. Thanks & Regards,Punit PandeyOn Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:07 PM, msbohra62 <msbohra62 wrote: Dear Punit jee, In my view when somany planets signifying a house then we must look for sub lord or sub-sub lord for final analysis that will give the real picture. As Mr.Sing have 9 planets signifying 11 house but sub and sub-sub lord are different.When a particular Dasa period running it will analyse by sub theory and he will get the result as per sub lord or by sub-sub lord.In traditional Astrology it will also analyse by other divisions.In general by only Rahi-chart predication will be wrong. Kp system is best tool to analyse the chart as like Mr.Sing or some common chart with same placing but results are very different as like born child with difference of few minutes ,as twins . We must know the traditional astrology for right conclusion as like " Bhavatm-Bhavam " theory.11th house is 8 from 4th house,6th from 6th house it will give some negative result,12th from 12th house.So these all give us some more help to analyse. Thanks, M.S.Bohra , Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > Recent posts in this thread, points towards a confusion in analysis of the > charts where we have all the planets (or many planets) signifying a single > house. Some of the quotes are - > > Raichur ji said, " you are the most fortunate man " > Sujata ji said, " why Bhaskar never met with an accident/ illhelath " > Sunil ji said " This would naturally mean that no matter what dasha or bhukti > the native is running, there will be improvement in his monetary situation. " > > I believe that we are missing one very fundamental points in birth chart > analysis and that is the reason there seems some confusion. The point that a > *person will get what is promised in his chart. *Not everybody get results > of a house signified by a planets. For example, suppose I have all planets > signifying 12th house, I may get foreign travel but not hospitalization or > vice-versa in my lifetime. *As per KP, to figure out what is promised for a > house and what is not, we need to check the sub-lord of the cusp of that > house. *In above example, if 12th cuspal sub lord is signifying 1st and 6th, > one may get hospitalization. If 12th cuspal sub lord signifying 3rd, 9th, > 12th, he may get foreign travels etc. If 12th cuspal sublord signifying 1st, > 3rd, 6th, 9th, 12th etc. he may get both hospitalization and foreign travel. > It depends. We should also see the nature of the sub lord to get a better > idea. > > Let us take example of Mr. G. Singh's chart. He has all the nine planets > signifying 11th house. 11th house tells us about matters related to " Profit > or gain, income, all kinds of receipts, acquisition, gain, desire, passion, > fulfillment of one's desire, wealth or riches, brothers and sisters - elder > one, friends " Will he get all? In my opinion, he will get everything that is > promised in his chart. In his chart, 11th house sub lord is Moon signifying > 11, 10, 3, 8, and 5. 5th house is negating quite a few benefits of 11th > house e.g. gain from competition/ others etc. 10th house is also negating > some of the benefits of 11th house by being 12th to 11th house. 8th house is > not good generally for quite a few matters including income and gains. It > definately tells use that the things would not have come as easy to his as > it looks from the high level view of the chart. 5th house and 8th house > suggests that he is fortunate in relationships and love affairs, as he told > us. *So to reiterate my point again - one gets what is promised in the > chart. * > > Thanks & Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:50 AM, hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100 wrote: > > > Hello Bhaskar, > > > > Let me give you my brief thoughts as I have very aggressive > > schedule. > > > > Rahu in your chart is in 12th house and most of your planets are > > connected with Rahu. But understand Rahu is in your Lagna lord Sun's > > sign. Sun the ruler of 1st house is in 10th house. Rahu in Leo is > > stronger than sun to give 1st house and 10th house results. So > > planets in rahu's nakshtra are giving you 10th house and 1st house > > results more predominantly and your health is okay. Alot depends on > > the analysis of the house cusp lords, but it is fruitful only if > > your birth time is very accurate. Also even if a planet is in 12th > > house but if it is close to the 1st house cusp, it will end up > > giving 1st house results instead of 12th house results. Now you tell > > me how accurate your birth time is as I don't have time for your BTR. > > > > But be careful in Rahu / Mars period especially if Rahu is > > transiting in Mars nakshatra at that time because these two planets > > can do big harm, and then you will remember me. > > > > > > Regards > > > > G. Singh > > > > <%40>, > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Singhji, > > > > > > This is KP learnt and applied in bits, but not complete. > > > > > > 1) Can you answer why is it , that though I have all planets > > signifying > > > 6th and 12th house, due to their being placed in Constellation of > > Nodes, > > > and the Nodes occupy 6/12 axis, yet why have I never been admitted > > in a > > > hospital or face dany health problems of any worry? > > > > > > 2) Rahu has actually done very good for me. I do not accept it as a > > > Badhak just because you think it is placed with the badhak ? Can > > you > > > explain the astrological reason for it being a Badhaka ? > > > > > > 3) Does Jupiter does not signify any other houses ? > > > > > > 4) Where are the roles of the sublords of other planets and Cusps ? > > > > > > 5) You write that Sun, Mercury, Ketu, Mars, rahu, jupiter, Moon > > are > > > significators of 12th house. But dont they signify other houses > > too ? > > > > > > 6) You write that " You should be careful when the signicators of > > 6th, > > > 8th, 12th, and badhaka will act together in dasha, bhukti and > > anthras. > > > " This is not just for me, but for everybody living in this world . > > > > > > 7) By the way, venus has given me the most pleasures in Life > > during its > > > dasha . > > > > > > Can you please explain me astrologically ( KP ) why none of your > > points > > > match with actual hapennings in my Life ? > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, > > " hbk1hbk_2100 " <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > 1. You have Moon, Mars, Rahu in the constellation of Ketu in 6th > > > > house. > > > > > > > > 2. Jupiter is the strong significator of 8th house as there is no > > > > planet in jupiter's nakshatra, and there is no occupant in eighth > > > > house. > > > > > > > > 3. Sun, Mercury, Ketu, Mars, rahu, jupiter, Moon are > > significators of > > > > 12th house. > > > > > > > > 4. For Leo ascendant Mars is the badhaka planet as it rules the > > 9th > > > > house. Rahu in conjunction with Mars will be a strong badhaka > > planet. > > > > > > > > Most of your planets are in the subs of rahu. I did not get into > > > > further details as it will take too much of my time. > > > > > > > > You should be careful when the signicators of 6th, 8th, 12th, and > > > > badhaka will act together in dasha, bhukti and anthras. > > > > > > > > Rahu and Venus are very strong badhaka planets for you. Venus is > > > > occupant of 9th house and no planet in its constellation. > > > > > > > > You should be very careful when rahu, venus, will act with > > > > significators of 8th house Jupiter and the 12th house > > significators > > > > mentioned above. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Strong significators: > > > > > > > > 1 SAT, VENUS > > > > 2. MERCURY > > > > 3. VENUS > > > > 4. JUPITER, MARS > > > > 5. JUPITER, SAT > > > > 6. MOON, MARS, RAHU, SAT, KETU > > > > 7. SAT > > > > 8. JUPITER > > > > 9. VENUS, MARS > > > > 10. VENUS, SAT, MERCURY, VENUS > > > > 11. MERCURY > > > > 12. SUN, MERCURY, KETU, MARS, JUPITER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, > > " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Singh, > > > > > > > > > > I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but > > just 2 > > > > > astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is > > because > > > > most > > > > > of the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. But if > > you > > > > wish > > > > > you may try. > > > > > > > > > > 28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( near > > > > > Vijaywada,Andhra). > > > > > > > > > > You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every > > where. > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, > > " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you please provide me with your birth data. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, > > " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Singh ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been > > > > admitted > > > > > > to > > > > > > > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas > > Grace. > > > > See > > > > > > these > > > > > > > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular > > > > house ( > > > > > > > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too, > > > > therefore > > > > > > one > > > > > > > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where > > in such > > > > > > cases > > > > > > > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic houses > > > > figuring > > > > > > in > > > > > > > the calculations respectively. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless its a pure case. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, > > " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40>, > > " Bhaskar " > > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where > > you have > > > > > > > > found, all > > > > > > > > > nine planets signifying one house . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens > > maybe > > > > just > > > > > > > > once in > > > > > > > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 > > > > with 7 > > > > > > > > Planets > > > > > > > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may > > not > > > > > > happen, > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in > > such > > > > rare > > > > > > > > example. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, > > and > > > > even > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such > > rare > > > > > > example > > > > > > > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP > > > > Readers, > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to > > study > > > > such > > > > > > rare > > > > > > > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40>, > > " sudhagarceg " > > > > <sudhagarceg@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > > > > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In > > some > > > > > > charts > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. > > FOr > > > > > > example > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart > > all > > > > the 9 > > > > > > > > planets > > > > > > > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > > > > > > > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents > > in > > > > all > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > periods? > > > > > > > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and > > > > comfort > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > all the periods? > > > > > > > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem > > > > > > effectively. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you sirs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 Dear Bhaskar ji,Generally I look into the possibility if accidents through 4,8,12 and Mars and/or Rahu connected. In my experience,when the DBA and transit are happening with the connection of the above, the accidents happen to a native. Hope the discussion pushed into a mental depression on these days, it can be stopped discussing on the same,Regarding the Jupiter Bukthi, give me some time if I can come back with some analysis once I reach my system. Thanks and RegardsAdith On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Adithji, I thank you for bringing in a very educative subject on board, related to accidents and putting your presentation on same.// As per the points given by Sri.Kudandhai nathan (on Trigons)we have to consider the sub of the the houses 4,8,12 for accidents. When any one of the sublord of these 3 is transitting in the sign where all these 3 sublords are connected ( vide signlord,stralord and sublord), and if the Das Bukthi and Andra of these Sublords connected are running and when Sun and Moon and Asc.,are transitting in that senstive points , the accident will happen to a native. If the Bhadaka and Maraka are connected along with these, the incident will end in danger to the native. // But how does one get to the actual dates or nearabout dates with so much extensive matching of all the pointers ? This seems rather difficult. I suppose I would began by checking what the StarLord of any DashaLord has to offer, and then move on to further pointers suggested by you. // But if the 1,5,9 sub lords are connected in any sign of the chart, the native will escape from such accidents. In your case, the 1,5,9 sublords are Sun,Moon and Sun. These sensitive link can be seen in Leo, Sun sign, Sun Star and Moon sub. This is good to save you.// I am happy now. All this talk on my chart on ill health and accidents has really brought me depression mentally, since last 2-3 days. Whatever faith one may have on his Horoscope or God, after all we are humans and mortals, the fear factor is always present. I hope they also tell me when will I become wealthy enough to make my family happy, and become a better astrologer. // If we look at the 4,8,12 sub lords, surprisingly all the three happen to be Jupiter. No planet is in Jupiter.So the unfavorable link should involve in Jupiter sign,jupiter star and jupiter sub. But this link is not present in any sign. For example , if we take Pisces, Jupiter sign lord and Jupiter star lord are ok, but jupiter sub is not there. But as Jupiter is more stronger , i doubt if Jupiter sign and jupiter star lord itslef is enough to create unfovarable result? // When I change my birth timings to 10.15am, the SubLord of 4th changes to Mercury. What happens in this case ? // Moreover, The running Dasa .Bukthi must link to these. So the next Dasa Jupiter may cause such event? The running Dasa Rahu is closely conjuncted with Mars . also Rahu is the sublord of Jupiter. So when Rahu Dasa, Jupiter Bukthi, when Jupiter transits in Jupiter star and also the sun,moon and lagna are transiting in such sensitive point, may it lead to Accidents? // Also we can see Jupiter is lord of 5 and in 5 . The star lord of Jupiter Moon is the sub lord of 5th cusp, so it may help you escape such bad incidents. (as I am out of reach to my software ,as I am out , i could not go through well the transit movements and other points. but i took a copy of your chart in hand). All the above reasons may be favoarble in saving you such accidents.// I am not an expert on accidents and keep away from such fearful topics especially on my own chart . But since you have done some hard work on my chart my views are as under . I would primarily see the 8th Cuspal Sub Lord to bring in accidents . For me this planet is Jupiter. It can bring accidents through further planets connected to it as under - 1) Planets in star of occupants in 8th - I have no planets in 8th. 2) Planets in star of owner of 8th - No planet in Owner of 8th who is Jupiter again. 3) Other planets in Sub of 8th - Only Moon. But Moon is not connected to the badhaksthana in any manner, so it should be safe. Or I would rather think in this manner and keep myself free from negative thinking. By the way, the Guru antardasha, do you think could cause Heart trouble ? Or as they say 5 and 8th causes Love affair ( Platonic ?) . What do you think I would suffer from in Guru antar coming in shortly ? It may be difficult for one to reply. In both cases dil ka mamla hai. ( By the way I am not into any affair since I got married quarter of a century ago) Or do you think it could also be a birth of a child to my first child who is a daughter ? Could 5,8 denote surgery to ones child ? Thanks and regards, Bhaskar. , " adith kasinath.g.k " <gkadithkasinath wrote:> > Dear Baskarji> > Hope you received my earlier mail on the analysis.> I will be obliged if if you comment on the same> > Regards> Adith> > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 11:54 AM, adith kasinath.g.k < > gkadithkasinath wrote:> > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> >> > My rough study on your case on the accident part:> >> > As per the points given by Sri.Kudandhai nathan (on Trigons)we have to > > consider the sub of the the houses 4,8,12 for accidents.> >> > When any one of the sublord of these 3 is transitting in the sign where all> > these 3 sublords are connected ( vide signlord,stralord and sublord), and > > if the Das Bukthi and Andra of these Sublords connected are running and when> > Sun and Moon and Asc.,are transitting in that senstive points , the accident> > will happen to a native. If the Bhadaka and Maraka are connected along with > > these, the incident will end in danger to the native.> >> > But if the 1,5,9 sub lords are connected in any sign of the chart, the> > native will escape from such accidents.> > > > In your case, the 1,5,9 sublords are Sun,Moon and Sun. These sensitive link> > can be seen in Leo, Sun sign, Sun Star and Moon sub. This is good to save> > you.> >> > If we look at the 4,8,12 sub lords, surprisingly all the three happen to be > > Jupiter. No planet is in Jupiter.> > So the unfavorable link should involve in Jupiter sign,jupiter star and> > jupiter sub. But this link is not present in any sign. For example , if we> > take Pisces, Jupiter sign lord and Jupiter star lord are ok, but jupiter sub > > is not there. But as Jupiter is more stronger , i doubt if Jupiter sign and> > jupiter star lord itslef is enough to create unfovarable result?> >> > Moreover, The running Dasa .Bukthi must link to these. So the next Dasa > > Jupiter may cause such event?> > The running Dasa Rahu is closely conjuncted with Mars . also Rahu is the> > sublord of Jupiter. So when Rahu Dasa, Jupiter Bukthi, when Jupiter transits> > in Jupiter star and also the sun,moon and lagna are transiting in such > > sensitive point, may it lead to Accidents?> >> > Also we can see Jupiter is lord of 5 and in 5 . The star lord of Jupiter> > Moon is the sub lord of 5th cusp, so it may help you escape such bad > > incidents.> > (as I am out of reach to my software ,as I am out , i could not go> > through well the transit movements and other points. but i took a copy of> > your chart in hand). > >> > All the above reasons may be favoarble in saving you such accidents.> >> > Dear Bhaskar ji, these are my rough findings which I need your or other> > seniors expertise to tune up. If you address to my concerns/doubts in the > > above , that will be more appreciated and I shall be obliged.> >> > Thanks and Regards> > Adith> > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotishwrote: > >> >>> >> Dear Adithji,> >>> >> Yes .> >>> >> The RP's taken at time of judgement by are so very perfect by Pavanji,> >> that actually there is no rectification required on the birth time as > >> per my view. But my view is always open to cross examinations by the> >> Experts.> >>> >> regards/Bhaskar.> >>> >> <%40>, " adith > >> kasinath.g.k " > >>> >> gkadithkasinath@ wrote:> >> >> >> > Dear BHASKAR JI AND PAVAN JI> >> >> >> > Hope good analysis and appeal to the same. > >> >> >> > Before trying to do the BTR immediately , if we look into the any> >> > possibilities of any connection between the star/sub lord of the Asc> >> of > >> > natal with the RPs at the time if judgement may help us if any BTR is> >> > required at all.> >> >> >> > Its my humble thought.> >> > May be other memnbers analysis on this will take us into an one more > >> never> >> > ending thread.> >> >> >> > Lets wait for Ajai's analysis as Bhaskar ji has given a go ahead.> >> >> >> > Regards > >> > Adith> >> >> >> >> >> > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish:> >>> >> > > >> > > Dear Pavan ji,> >> > >> >> > > A good effort on Your part.> >> > >> >> > > A small observation -> >> > > > >> > > *At time of Your Judgement the RP's were as under -*> >> > > Ascendant lord - The Sun> >> > > Moon starLord - Venus> >> > > Moon raashi Lord - Mars > >> > > Day Lord - Moon - (Kethu )> >> > >> >> > > Ascendant star lord - Kethu> >> > >> >> > > As per my recorded time of 10.14 am the equation stands as under - > >> > >> >> > > Leo ascendant - Raashi lord - Sun, StarLord Venus, SubLord - Sun.> >> > >> >> > > *The RP's are used only for those factors on which we are doubtful > >> in the> >> > > chart.* Here the Lagna Lord is not doubtful in my natal Chart,> >> because> >> > > Lagna is at 15 degrees so no question of Lagna changing . Therefore > >> what you> >> > > are looking for confirmation , is the StarLord and the Sub lord.> >> Since we> >> > > have not used any of the above RP's for confirming the Lagna Lord, > >> even the> >> > > Sun stays in the RP's. My question to you now, is why dont you allow> >> the Sun> >> > > from the RP's to be used as the SubLord for the ascendant which in > >> any case> >> > > is The Sun, and confirms it. Of course Venus confirms the StarLord> >> as it is.> >> > > Thus the timings does not require any rectification unless one > >> wishes to> >> > > confirm the SubSubLord and fine tune it.> >> > >> >> > > But in any case, what happened to the Sun amongst the RP's you have > >> used> >> > > for rectification purposes ?> >> > >> >> > > regards,> >> > >> >> > > Bhaskar.> >> > > > >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > <%40>, vgr > >> pavan vgr_pavan1@ wrote:> >> > > >> >> > > > PRANAM ALL,> >> > > >> >> > > > I analysed the horoscope of sri bhaskar on 02-02-2009 @19.38 > >> hrs> >> > > 16.14N, 80.35E> >> > > >> >> > > > Ruling Planets:> >> > > >> >> > > > Asc : sun kethu > >> > > >> >> > > > Moon : mar ven> >> > > >> >> > > > d.l  moon> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > Now bhaskarji`s Asc is in sun ven sun as per the recorded time. At > >> the> >> > > time of judgement ascis occupied by sat both rahu and kethu> >> represnts him.> >> > > so final r.p are sun, mars, ven, rah,kethu.as mars is moon sign > >> lord and> >> > > aspecting it from the star of sun another r.p i think he is strong.> >> mars wil> >> > > be Asc sub lord and rahu s-s lord. (i left kethu because he rules > >> his brth> >> > > star.) for confirmation i opened k.p 2 reader which give 55 on the> >> right> >> > > side page.> >> > > > (asking the query who rules his asc sub) 55 falls in mer,rah,mars. > >> > > >> >> > > > HIS BRTH TIME COMES TO 10.21 AM.> >> > > >> >> > > > NOW ASC csl Mars is in kethu star and sub of rahu. kethu in 6th > >> and rahu> >> > > is in 12th with mars in kethu star. So asc csl is clearly signifying> >> 6,12.> >> > > But please note that 6,8,12 csl is mercury l/o 2,11 in 10 (no planet > >> in mer> >> > > stars ) in the star of rahu and sub of sat(no planets in sat stars).> >> rahu in> >> > > 12 sat in 5 in sun star l/o asc in 10. So mer is signifying > >> 2,10,11,12 at> >> > > star level and 1,5,7,10 at sub level. So 6,8,and 12th cusps are> >> promising> >> > > favourable results.> >> > > > Sun,mer (l/o1,l/o11)are in sextile with asc promising good health > >> and> >> > > fast recovery.> >> > > >> >> > > > As 6th csl is mercury in a dual sign good at sub level he does not> >> having> >> > > any major health > >> > > > problems.mercury wil give fast recovery from all minor health> >> problems.> >> > > >> >> > > > Bhaskarji this is my analysis i may be wrong . if u can give > >> some of> >> > > your past events to tally your BT it will be good.> >> > > >> >> > > > learned members, correct me if i am wrong.> >> > > > > >> > > > regards.> >> > > >> >> > > > vgr> >> > > >> >> > > > Â> >> > > >> >> > > > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, sujata das sujatadash1@ wrote: > >> > > > sujata das sujatadash1@> >> > >> >> > > > Re: Re: i> >> > > > <%40> > >> > > > Monday, 2 February, 2009, 6:48 PM> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > Dear Mr Raichur> >> > > > Kindly clarify as to why Bhsker never met with an accident/> >> illhealth.> >> > > > Regards> >> > > > sujata > >> > > >> >> > > > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Raichur-a-r raichurar > wrote:> >> > > > Raichur-a-r raichurar >> >> > > > Re: Re: i > >> > > > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> >> .co. > >> > > in>> >> > > > Monday, 2 February, 2009, 2:36 PM> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > dear members> >> > > > find the horoscope redrawn as per kpsw of mine. It is zipped for > >> > > transmission> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > raichur anant> >> > > >> >> > > > --- On Sun, 1/2/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: > >> > > >> >> > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> >> > > > Re: i > >> > > > @gro ups.com> >> > > > Sunday, 1 February, 2009, 7:32 PM> >> > > >> >> > > > Dear Singh, > >> > > >> >> > > > I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but just 2> >> > > > astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is because > >> most> >> > > > of the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. But if you> >> wish> >> > > > you may try.> >> > > >> >> > > > 28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( near > >> > > > Vijaywada,Andhra) .> >> > > >> >> > > > You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every where.> >> > > >> >> > > > regards/Bhaskar. . > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > @gro ups.com, " hbk1hbk_2100 " > >> > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...>> >> > > > wrote:> >> > > > >> >> > > > > Hello Bhaskar,> >> > > > > > >> > > > > Could you please provide me with your birth data.> >> > > > >> >> > > > > Regards> >> > > > >> >> > > > > G. Singh > >> > > > >> >> > > > > --- In> >> > > > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > >> > > > > wrote:> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > Dear Singh ji,> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been> >> admitted> >> > > > > to> >> > > > > > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas Grace. > >> See> >> > > > > these> >> > > > > > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular> >> house (> >> > > > > > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too, > >> therefore> >> > > > > one> >> > > > > > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where in> >> such> >> > > > > cases > >> > > > > > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic houses> >> figuring> >> > > > > in> >> > > > > > the calculations respectively. > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > Unless its a pure case.> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > @gro ups.com, > >> > > > " hbk1hbk_2100 " > >> > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@>> >> > > > > > wrote:> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house. > >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > G. Singh> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " > >> > > > bhaskar_jyotish@> >> > > > > > > wrote:> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you > >> > > > have> >> > > > > > > found, all> >> > > > > > > > nine planets signifying one house .> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe> >> > > > just> >> > > > > > > once in> >> > > > > > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 > >> > > > with 7> >> > > > > > > Planets> >> > > > > > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not> >> > > > > happen, > >> > > > > > > but> >> > > > > > > > as per> >> > > > Traditional this signification may be there in such> >> > > > rare > >> > > > > > > example.> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and> >> > > > even > >> > > > > if> >> > > > > > > you> >> > > > > > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such> >> rare> >> > > > > example > >> > > > > > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP> >> > > > Readers,> >> > > > > and> >> > > > > > > other > >> > > > > > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study> >> > > > such> >> > > > > rare> >> > > > > > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively " . > >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " sudhagarceg " > >> > > > <sudhagarceg@> > >> > > > > > > > wrote:> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs,> >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In> >> > > > some> >> > > > > charts> >> > > > > > > i > >> > > > > > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house...> >> > > > FOr> >> > > > > example> >> > > > > > > all > >> > > > > > > > the> >> > > > > > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all> >> > > > the 9> >> > > > > > > planets > >> > > > > > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean?> >> > > > > > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get> >> > > > accidents in all > >> > > > > the> >> > > > > > > > > periods?> >> > > > > > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck> >> > > > and comfort > >> > > > > in> >> > > > > > > > > all the periods?> >> > > > > > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem > >> > > > > effectively.> >> > > > > > > > > Thank you sirs.> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> >> > > >> >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 Dear Members, The King Abdullah of Jordan has all 9 planets significator of 2nd and 11th house. He was born around same time as mine. He is Saggitarius ascendant with these 7 planets in 2nd house in capricorn and his moon is in his 11th house in Libra sign. You can find his birth data on internet. I did analysis of his chart as well. His rajyoga I believe came in Mercury's mahadasha as mercury is in the nakshatra of 2nd and 9th lord mars and placed in 2nd house in its exaltation, and suddenly he became the king one day. Mr Bohra discussed some astrology chart a month ago with many planets in 11th house, and his friend has suffered a lot in his life. Mr Bohra your friend has planets in 11th house but he has three of those planets in moon's nakshatra, and his moon is in 12th house. Although the planets are in 11th house but they are in the nakshatra of an occupant of 12th house as moon the ruler of 5th house is in his 12th house. Had his moon been placed in a good house like 2nd, 6th, 10th or 11th it would have been a real rajyoga. Regards G. Singh , Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: > > Dear Bohra ji, > > Can you please take G. Singh ji's chart as an example and explain what you > mean by using sub and sub-sub in such situation? Also when we should use sub > and sub-sub? Only when we have many planets in one house or always? Would > appreicaite if you can take a chart as an example to explain your point. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:07 PM, msbohra62 <msbohra62 wrote: > > > Dear Punit jee, > > > > In my view when somany planets signifying a house then we must look > > for sub lord or sub-sub lord for final analysis that will give the > > real picture. > > > > As Mr.Sing have 9 planets signifying 11 house but sub and sub- sub lord > > are different.When a particular Dasa period running it will analyse by > > sub theory and he will get the result as per sub lord or by sub- sub > > lord.In traditional Astrology it will also analyse by other > > divisions.In general by only Rahi-chart predication will be wrong. > > > > Kp system is best tool to analyse the chart as like Mr.Sing or some > > common chart with same placing but results are very different as like > > born child with difference of few minutes ,as twins . > > > > We must know the traditional astrology for right conclusion as like > > " Bhavatm-Bhavam " theory.11th house is 8 from 4th house,6th from 6th > > house it will give some negative result,12th from 12th house.So these > > all give us some more help to analyse. > > > > Thanks, > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > > > <% 40>, Punit > > Pandey <punitp@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > Recent posts in this thread, points towards a confusion in analysis > > of the > > > charts where we have all the planets (or many planets) signifying a > > single > > > house. Some of the quotes are - > > > > > > Raichur ji said, " you are the most fortunate man " > > > Sujata ji said, " why Bhaskar never met with an accident/ illhelath " > > > Sunil ji said " This would naturally mean that no matter what dasha > > or bhukti > > > the native is running, there will be improvement in his monetary > > situation. " > > > > > > I believe that we are missing one very fundamental points in birth chart > > > analysis and that is the reason there seems some confusion. The > > point that a > > > *person will get what is promised in his chart. *Not everybody get > > results > > > of a house signified by a planets. For example, suppose I have all > > planets > > > signifying 12th house, I may get foreign travel but not > > hospitalization or > > > vice-versa in my lifetime. *As per KP, to figure out what is > > promised for a > > > house and what is not, we need to check the sub-lord of the cusp of that > > > house. *In above example, if 12th cuspal sub lord is signifying 1st > > and 6th, > > > one may get hospitalization. If 12th cuspal sub lord signifying 3rd, > > 9th, > > > 12th, he may get foreign travels etc. If 12th cuspal sublord > > signifying 1st, > > > 3rd, 6th, 9th, 12th etc. he may get both hospitalization and foreign > > travel. > > > It depends. We should also see the nature of the sub lord to get a > > better > > > idea. > > > > > > Let us take example of Mr. G. Singh's chart. He has all the nine planets > > > signifying 11th house. 11th house tells us about matters related to > > " Profit > > > or gain, income, all kinds of receipts, acquisition, gain, desire, > > passion, > > > fulfillment of one's desire, wealth or riches, brothers and sisters > > - elder > > > one, friends " Will he get all? In my opinion, he will get everything > > that is > > > promised in his chart. In his chart, 11th house sub lord is Moon > > signifying > > > 11, 10, 3, 8, and 5. 5th house is negating quite a few benefits of 11th > > > house e.g. gain from competition/ others etc. 10th house is also > > negating > > > some of the benefits of 11th house by being 12th to 11th house. 8th > > house is > > > not good generally for quite a few matters including income and > > gains. It > > > definately tells use that the things would not have come as easy to > > his as > > > it looks from the high level view of the chart. 5th house and 8th house > > > suggests that he is fortunate in relationships and love affairs, as > > he told > > > us. *So to reiterate my point again - one gets what is promised in the > > > chart. * > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:50 AM, hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100@> wrote: > > > > > > > Hello Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > Let me give you my brief thoughts as I have very aggressive > > > > schedule. > > > > > > > > Rahu in your chart is in 12th house and most of your planets are > > > > connected with Rahu. But understand Rahu is in your Lagna lord Sun's > > > > sign. Sun the ruler of 1st house is in 10th house. Rahu in Leo is > > > > stronger than sun to give 1st house and 10th house results. So > > > > planets in rahu's nakshtra are giving you 10th house and 1st house > > > > results more predominantly and your health is okay. Alot depends on > > > > the analysis of the house cusp lords, but it is fruitful only if > > > > your birth time is very accurate. Also even if a planet is in 12th > > > > house but if it is close to the 1st house cusp, it will end up > > > > giving 1st house results instead of 12th house results. Now you tell > > > > me how accurate your birth time is as I don't have time for your BTR. > > > > > > > > But be careful in Rahu / Mars period especially if Rahu is > > > > transiting in Mars nakshatra at that time because these two planets > > > > can do big harm, and then you will remember me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > <% 40><% > > 40>, > > > > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Singhji, > > > > > > > > > > This is KP learnt and applied in bits, but not complete. > > > > > > > > > > 1) Can you answer why is it , that though I have all planets > > > > signifying > > > > > 6th and 12th house, due to their being placed in Constellation of > > > > Nodes, > > > > > and the Nodes occupy 6/12 axis, yet why have I never been admitted > > > > in a > > > > > hospital or face dany health problems of any worry? > > > > > > > > > > 2) Rahu has actually done very good for me. I do not accept it as a > > > > > Badhak just because you think it is placed with the badhak ? Can > > > > you > > > > > explain the astrological reason for it being a Badhaka ? > > > > > > > > > > 3) Does Jupiter does not signify any other houses ? > > > > > > > > > > 4) Where are the roles of the sublords of other planets and Cusps ? > > > > > > > > > > 5) You write that Sun, Mercury, Ketu, Mars, rahu, jupiter, Moon > > > > are > > > > > significators of 12th house. But dont they signify other houses > > > > too ? > > > > > > > > > > 6) You write that " You should be careful when the signicators of > > > > 6th, > > > > > 8th, 12th, and badhaka will act together in dasha, bhukti and > > > > anthras. > > > > > " This is not just for me, but for everybody living in this world . > > > > > > > > > > 7) By the way, venus has given me the most pleasures in Life > > > > during its > > > > > dasha . > > > > > > > > > > Can you please explain me astrologically ( KP ) why none of your > > > > points > > > > > match with actual hapennings in my Life ? > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40><% > > 40>, > > > > > > " hbk1hbk_2100 " <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. You have Moon, Mars, Rahu in the constellation of Ketu in 6th > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Jupiter is the strong significator of 8th house as there is no > > > > > > planet in jupiter's nakshatra, and there is no occupant in eighth > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Sun, Mercury, Ketu, Mars, rahu, jupiter, Moon are > > > > significators of > > > > > > 12th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. For Leo ascendant Mars is the badhaka planet as it rules the > > > > 9th > > > > > > house. Rahu in conjunction with Mars will be a strong badhaka > > > > planet. > > > > > > > > > > > > Most of your planets are in the subs of rahu. I did not get into > > > > > > further details as it will take too much of my time. > > > > > > > > > > > > You should be careful when the signicators of 6th, 8th, 12th, and > > > > > > badhaka will act together in dasha, bhukti and anthras. > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu and Venus are very strong badhaka planets for you. Venus is > > > > > > occupant of 9th house and no planet in its constellation. > > > > > > > > > > > > You should be very careful when rahu, venus, will act with > > > > > > significators of 8th house Jupiter and the 12th house > > > > significators > > > > > > mentioned above. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Strong significators: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 SAT, VENUS > > > > > > 2. MERCURY > > > > > > 3. VENUS > > > > > > 4. JUPITER, MARS > > > > > > 5. JUPITER, SAT > > > > > > 6. MOON, MARS, RAHU, SAT, KETU > > > > > > 7. SAT > > > > > > 8. JUPITER > > > > > > 9. VENUS, MARS > > > > > > 10. VENUS, SAT, MERCURY, VENUS > > > > > > 11. MERCURY > > > > > > 12. SUN, MERCURY, KETU, MARS, JUPITER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40><% > > 40>, > > > > " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Singh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but > > > > just 2 > > > > > > > astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is > > > > because > > > > > > most > > > > > > > of the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. But if > > > > you > > > > > > wish > > > > > > > you may try. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( near > > > > > > > Vijaywada,Andhra). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every > > > > where. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40> > > <%40>, > > > > " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you please provide me with your birth data. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40> > > <%40>, > > > > > > " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Singh ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been > > > > > > admitted > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas > > > > Grace. > > > > > > See > > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular > > > > > > house ( > > > > > > > > > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too, > > > > > > therefore > > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where > > > > in such > > > > > > > > cases > > > > > > > > > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic houses > > > > > > figuring > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > the calculations respectively. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless its a pure case. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40> > > <%40>, > > > > " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > <% 40><% > > 40>, > > > > > > " Bhaskar " > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where > > > > you have > > > > > > > > > > found, all > > > > > > > > > > > nine planets signifying one house . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens > > > > maybe > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > once in > > > > > > > > > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 > > > > > > with 7 > > > > > > > > > > Planets > > > > > > > > > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may > > > > not > > > > > > > > happen, > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in > > > > such > > > > > > rare > > > > > > > > > > example. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, > > > > and > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such > > > > rare > > > > > > > > example > > > > > > > > > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP > > > > > > Readers, > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to > > > > study > > > > > > such > > > > > > > > rare > > > > > > > > > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > <% 40><% > > 40>, > > > > > > " sudhagarceg " > > > > > > <sudhagarceg@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > > > > > > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In > > > > some > > > > > > > > charts > > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. > > > > FOr > > > > > > > > example > > > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart > > > > all > > > > > > the 9 > > > > > > > > > > planets > > > > > > > > > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > > > > > > > > > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents > > > > in > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > periods? > > > > > > > > > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and > > > > > > comfort > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > all the periods? > > > > > > > > > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem > > > > > > > > effectively. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you sirs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Dear Punit ji, I am new in KP system,I will explain what I have learn to read the messages of the forum. When a such situation happened as like Mr.Singh's chart,in my view firstly we should see the Cusp,here 11th house. " " The nature / type of event for each house depends on the Lords of star, sub & sign on the cusp. Planet is a source of event having a star, sub & sign lords. A sub-sub is considered at times to improve the precision. " " Cusp Controllers : The Cusp controllers are the Sign-Star-Sub, of these the Star-Lord is important as it defines the event for that Cusp / House. The Sub-Lord has the power to negate the effects proposed by the same house and has the final authority. In such a scenario if a planet is occupying the house under consideration it may occupy any of the stars in the span of that house and it will also be in a specific Sub, the effects of such a planet then should be finally under the control of the cusp Star-Lord and Sub-Lord and if they support then the occupying planet can perform to its optimum potential Mr.Singh have seven planets in 11th house and 9 planets signifying 11th house so Cusp controls the effects of all planets. Here 11th Cusp SUN(SL),Ketu(Sub Lord) and Rahu(SSL).Sun is signify 6,11 so gain through 6th house(by Loan).Sub lord is Ketu is in 11th so he will be benefited by loans,Rahu is in 5th(Love,Education,Child and poorv Karma).So 11th Cups associated with 5th,6th and 11th houses.Gain through friends,love affair or partnership,by quarrel,court cases and by loans.All indicate that he is always have debt in his account.(11th is 6th to 6th house). In KP each planet has a Sub-Lord whose effects are most prominently seen in predictions. If in one Nakshatra 2 planets are present and if the Sub-Lords are different for each then different results are experienced Here,Jupiter,Mercury and Ketu are in Mars star and sub of Rahu but sun-sub are Sun,Saturn and Saturn respectively.Again sub-sub of Mercury and Ketu are same than we look SSSL for each result. 2nd.9th and 11th house result will be give by Jupiter,Mercury and Ketu because they all are in Dhanishta the star of Mars.The result will be same for these three Planets Dasa period? No! " " A transiting planet is a variable, next is the Sign-Lord followed by Star-Lord. This transiting planet will now occupy one of the 9 Sub-parts in the Star, this sub-part is ruled by one of the 9 planets hence the term Sub-Lord was introduced followed by the Sub-Sub-Lord. The planet transiting a house is now a source of an event, Star-Lord, Sub-Lord, Sub-Sub-Lord and the Sign-Lord will decide the course of events indicated by the House. " " So in all these scenario Mr.Sing is not gaining or benefice by all means because all the 9 planets signifying the 11th house.If we consider " Vimshottari Dasha " for final result,which will decide the good or bad effects of period,we can analyse the real picture. It is little which i have learned,if some were I am wrong than please correct me. Thanks, M.S.Bohra 5.2.2009 , Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: > > Dear Bohra ji, > > Can you please take G. Singh ji's chart as an example and explain what you > mean by using sub and sub-sub in such situation? Also when we should use sub > and sub-sub? Only when we have many planets in one house or always? Would > appreicaite if you can take a chart as an example to explain your point. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:07 PM, msbohra62 <msbohra62 wrote: > > > Dear Punit jee, > > > > In my view when somany planets signifying a house then we must look > > for sub lord or sub-sub lord for final analysis that will give the > > real picture. > > > > As Mr.Sing have 9 planets signifying 11 house but sub and sub-sub lord > > are different.When a particular Dasa period running it will analyse by > > sub theory and he will get the result as per sub lord or by sub-sub > > lord.In traditional Astrology it will also analyse by other > > divisions.In general by only Rahi-chart predication will be wrong. > > > > Kp system is best tool to analyse the chart as like Mr.Sing or some > > common chart with same placing but results are very different as like > > born child with difference of few minutes ,as twins . > > > > We must know the traditional astrology for right conclusion as like > > " Bhavatm-Bhavam " theory.11th house is 8 from 4th house,6th from 6th > > house it will give some negative result,12th from 12th house.So these > > all give us some more help to analyse. > > > > Thanks, > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > > > <%40>, Punit > > Pandey <punitp@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > Recent posts in this thread, points towards a confusion in analysis > > of the > > > charts where we have all the planets (or many planets) signifying a > > single > > > house. Some of the quotes are - > > > > > > Raichur ji said, " you are the most fortunate man " > > > Sujata ji said, " why Bhaskar never met with an accident/ illhelath " > > > Sunil ji said " This would naturally mean that no matter what dasha > > or bhukti > > > the native is running, there will be improvement in his monetary > > situation. " > > > > > > I believe that we are missing one very fundamental points in birth chart > > > analysis and that is the reason there seems some confusion. The > > point that a > > > *person will get what is promised in his chart. *Not everybody get > > results > > > of a house signified by a planets. For example, suppose I have all > > planets > > > signifying 12th house, I may get foreign travel but not > > hospitalization or > > > vice-versa in my lifetime. *As per KP, to figure out what is > > promised for a > > > house and what is not, we need to check the sub-lord of the cusp of that > > > house. *In above example, if 12th cuspal sub lord is signifying 1st > > and 6th, > > > one may get hospitalization. If 12th cuspal sub lord signifying 3rd, > > 9th, > > > 12th, he may get foreign travels etc. If 12th cuspal sublord > > signifying 1st, > > > 3rd, 6th, 9th, 12th etc. he may get both hospitalization and foreign > > travel. > > > It depends. We should also see the nature of the sub lord to get a > > better > > > idea. > > > > > > Let us take example of Mr. G. Singh's chart. He has all the nine planets > > > signifying 11th house. 11th house tells us about matters related to > > " Profit > > > or gain, income, all kinds of receipts, acquisition, gain, desire, > > passion, > > > fulfillment of one's desire, wealth or riches, brothers and sisters > > - elder > > > one, friends " Will he get all? In my opinion, he will get everything > > that is > > > promised in his chart. In his chart, 11th house sub lord is Moon > > signifying > > > 11, 10, 3, 8, and 5. 5th house is negating quite a few benefits of 11th > > > house e.g. gain from competition/ others etc. 10th house is also > > negating > > > some of the benefits of 11th house by being 12th to 11th house. 8th > > house is > > > not good generally for quite a few matters including income and > > gains. It > > > definately tells use that the things would not have come as easy to > > his as > > > it looks from the high level view of the chart. 5th house and 8th house > > > suggests that he is fortunate in relationships and love affairs, as > > he told > > > us. *So to reiterate my point again - one gets what is promised in the > > > chart. * > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:50 AM, hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100@> wrote: > > > > > > > Hello Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > Let me give you my brief thoughts as I have very aggressive > > > > schedule. > > > > > > > > Rahu in your chart is in 12th house and most of your planets are > > > > connected with Rahu. But understand Rahu is in your Lagna lord Sun's > > > > sign. Sun the ruler of 1st house is in 10th house. Rahu in Leo is > > > > stronger than sun to give 1st house and 10th house results. So > > > > planets in rahu's nakshtra are giving you 10th house and 1st house > > > > results more predominantly and your health is okay. Alot depends on > > > > the analysis of the house cusp lords, but it is fruitful only if > > > > your birth time is very accurate. Also even if a planet is in 12th > > > > house but if it is close to the 1st house cusp, it will end up > > > > giving 1st house results instead of 12th house results. Now you tell > > > > me how accurate your birth time is as I don't have time for your BTR. > > > > > > > > But be careful in Rahu / Mars period especially if Rahu is > > > > transiting in Mars nakshatra at that time because these two planets > > > > can do big harm, and then you will remember me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > <%40><% > > 40>, > > > > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Singhji, > > > > > > > > > > This is KP learnt and applied in bits, but not complete. > > > > > > > > > > 1) Can you answer why is it , that though I have all planets > > > > signifying > > > > > 6th and 12th house, due to their being placed in Constellation of > > > > Nodes, > > > > > and the Nodes occupy 6/12 axis, yet why have I never been admitted > > > > in a > > > > > hospital or face dany health problems of any worry? > > > > > > > > > > 2) Rahu has actually done very good for me. I do not accept it as a > > > > > Badhak just because you think it is placed with the badhak ? Can > > > > you > > > > > explain the astrological reason for it being a Badhaka ? > > > > > > > > > > 3) Does Jupiter does not signify any other houses ? > > > > > > > > > > 4) Where are the roles of the sublords of other planets and Cusps ? > > > > > > > > > > 5) You write that Sun, Mercury, Ketu, Mars, rahu, jupiter, Moon > > > > are > > > > > significators of 12th house. But dont they signify other houses > > > > too ? > > > > > > > > > > 6) You write that " You should be careful when the signicators of > > > > 6th, > > > > > 8th, 12th, and badhaka will act together in dasha, bhukti and > > > > anthras. > > > > > " This is not just for me, but for everybody living in this world . > > > > > > > > > > 7) By the way, venus has given me the most pleasures in Life > > > > during its > > > > > dasha . > > > > > > > > > > Can you please explain me astrologically ( KP ) why none of your > > > > points > > > > > match with actual hapennings in my Life ? > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40><% > > 40>, > > > > > > " hbk1hbk_2100 " <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. You have Moon, Mars, Rahu in the constellation of Ketu in 6th > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Jupiter is the strong significator of 8th house as there is no > > > > > > planet in jupiter's nakshatra, and there is no occupant in eighth > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Sun, Mercury, Ketu, Mars, rahu, jupiter, Moon are > > > > significators of > > > > > > 12th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. For Leo ascendant Mars is the badhaka planet as it rules the > > > > 9th > > > > > > house. Rahu in conjunction with Mars will be a strong badhaka > > > > planet. > > > > > > > > > > > > Most of your planets are in the subs of rahu. I did not get into > > > > > > further details as it will take too much of my time. > > > > > > > > > > > > You should be careful when the signicators of 6th, 8th, 12th, and > > > > > > badhaka will act together in dasha, bhukti and anthras. > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu and Venus are very strong badhaka planets for you. Venus is > > > > > > occupant of 9th house and no planet in its constellation. > > > > > > > > > > > > You should be very careful when rahu, venus, will act with > > > > > > significators of 8th house Jupiter and the 12th house > > > > significators > > > > > > mentioned above. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Strong significators: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 SAT, VENUS > > > > > > 2. MERCURY > > > > > > 3. VENUS > > > > > > 4. JUPITER, MARS > > > > > > 5. JUPITER, SAT > > > > > > 6. MOON, MARS, RAHU, SAT, KETU > > > > > > 7. SAT > > > > > > 8. JUPITER > > > > > > 9. VENUS, MARS > > > > > > 10. VENUS, SAT, MERCURY, VENUS > > > > > > 11. MERCURY > > > > > > 12. SUN, MERCURY, KETU, MARS, JUPITER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40><% > > 40>, > > > > " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Singh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but > > > > just 2 > > > > > > > astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is > > > > because > > > > > > most > > > > > > > of the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. But if > > > > you > > > > > > wish > > > > > > > you may try. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( near > > > > > > > Vijaywada,Andhra). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every > > > > where. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > <%40>, > > > > " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you please provide me with your birth data. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40> > > <%40>, > > > > > > " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Singh ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been > > > > > > admitted > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas > > > > Grace. > > > > > > See > > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular > > > > > > house ( > > > > > > > > > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too, > > > > > > therefore > > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where > > > > in such > > > > > > > > cases > > > > > > > > > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic houses > > > > > > figuring > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > the calculations respectively. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless its a pure case. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40> > > <%40>, > > > > " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > <%40><% > > 40>, > > > > > > " Bhaskar " > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where > > > > you have > > > > > > > > > > found, all > > > > > > > > > > > nine planets signifying one house . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens > > > > maybe > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > once in > > > > > > > > > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 > > > > > > with 7 > > > > > > > > > > Planets > > > > > > > > > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may > > > > not > > > > > > > > happen, > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in > > > > such > > > > > > rare > > > > > > > > > > example. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, > > > > and > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such > > > > rare > > > > > > > > example > > > > > > > > > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP > > > > > > Readers, > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to > > > > study > > > > > > such > > > > > > > > rare > > > > > > > > > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > <%40><% > > 40>, > > > > > > " sudhagarceg " > > > > > > <sudhagarceg@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > > > > > > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In > > > > some > > > > > > > > charts > > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. > > > > FOr > > > > > > > > example > > > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart > > > > all > > > > > > the 9 > > > > > > > > > > planets > > > > > > > > > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > > > > > > > > > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents > > > > in > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > periods? > > > > > > > > > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and > > > > > > comfort > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > all the periods? > > > > > > > > > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem > > > > > > > > effectively. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you sirs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Dear Adith and BhaskerI had met with a serious head injury ( head was operated) with fractured collar bone and 2 ribs on 27 3 -82 north east to Patna at about 7pm. We were travelling towards Nepal border, maybe near Motihari.Dasa jup ve sat, ke star day. Ve is the sublord of 4 8. Sat is sublord of 12.My dob is 5-5-55 pob is delhi, near connaught place., tob 9-37 pm My 1 5 9 sublords are ra ju moom.They falll in cancer which is part of the 8th houseIts very difficult to pinpoint the future date on the basis of these pointersTo judge an accident Hardeep nagi,who is also a member of this group once told me that if 1st sublord is connected to 6 8 12 and badhak, then only accidents will happenRegardsSujata--- On Wed, 4/2/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: i Date: Wednesday, 4 February, 2009, 3:45 PM Dear Adithji, I thank you for bringing in a very educative subject on board, related to accidents and putting your presentation on same.// As per the points given by Sri.Kudandhai nathan (on Trigons)we have to consider the sub of the the houses 4,8,12 for accidents.When any one of the sublord of these 3 is transitting in the sign where all these 3 sublords are connected ( vide signlord,stralord and sublord), and if the Das Bukthi and Andra of these Sublords connected are running and when Sun and Moon and Asc.,are transitting in that senstive points , the accident will happen to a native. If the Bhadaka and Maraka are connected along with these, the incident will end in danger to the native. // But how does one get to the actual dates or nearabout dates with so much extensive matching of all the pointers ? This seems rather difficult. I suppose I would began by checking what the StarLord of any DashaLord has to offer, and then move on to further pointers suggested by you. // But if the 1,5,9 sub lords are connected in any sign of the chart, the native will escape from such accidents. In your case, the 1,5,9 sublords are Sun,Moon and Sun. These sensitive link can be seen in Leo, Sun sign, Sun Star and Moon sub. This is good to save you.// I am happy now. All this talk on my chart on ill health and accidents has really brought me depression mentally, since last 2-3 days. Whatever faith one may have on his Horoscope or God, after all we are humans and mortals, the fear factor is always present. I hope they also tell me when will I become wealthy enough to make my family happy, and become a better astrologer. // If we look at the 4,8,12 sub lords, surprisingly all the three happen to be Jupiter. No planet is in Jupiter.So the unfavorable link should involve in Jupiter sign,jupiter star and jupiter sub. But this link is not present in any sign. For example , if we take Pisces, Jupiter sign lord and Jupiter star lord are ok, but jupiter sub is not there. But as Jupiter is more stronger , i doubt if Jupiter sign and jupiter star lord itslef is enough to create unfovarable result? // When I change my birth timings to 10.15am, the SubLord of 4th changes to Mercury. What happens in this case ? // Moreover, The running Dasa .Bukthi must link to these. So the next Dasa Jupiter may cause such event? The running Dasa Rahu is closely conjuncted with Mars . also Rahu is the sublord of Jupiter. So when Rahu Dasa, Jupiter Bukthi, when Jupiter transits in Jupiter star and also the sun,moon and lagna are transiting in such sensitive point, may it lead to Accidents? // Also we can see Jupiter is lord of 5 and in 5 .. The star lord of Jupiter Moon is the sub lord of 5th cusp, so it may help you escape such bad incidents. (as I am out of reach to my software ,as I am out , i could not go through well the transit movements and other points. but i took a copy of your chart in hand). All the above reasons may be favoarble in saving you such accidents.// I am not an expert on accidents and keep away from such fearful topics especially on my own chart . But since you have done some hard work on my chart my views are as under . I would primarily see the 8th Cuspal Sub Lord to bring in accidents . For me this planet is Jupiter. It can bring accidents through further planets connected to it as under - 1) Planets in star of occupants in 8th - I have no planets in 8th. 2) Planets in star of owner of 8th - No planet in Owner of 8th who is Jupiter again. 3) Other planets in Sub of 8th - Only Moon. But Moon is not connected to the badhaksthana in any manner, so it should be safe. Or I would rather think in this manner and keep myself free from negative thinking. By the way, the Guru antardasha, do you think could cause Heart trouble ? Or as they say 5 and 8th causes Love affair ( Platonic ?) . What do you think I would suffer from in Guru antar coming in shortly ? It may be difficult for one to reply. In both cases dil ka mamla hai. ( By the way I am not into any affair since I got married quarter of a century ago) Or do you think it could also be a birth of a child to my first child who is a daughter ? Could 5,8 denote surgery to ones child ? Thanks and regards, Bhaskar. @gro ups.com, "adith kasinath.g.k" <gkadithkasinath@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Baskarji> > Hope you received my earlier mail on the analysis.> I will be obliged if if you comment on the same> > Regards> Adith> > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 11:54 AM, adith kasinath.g.k <> gkadithkasinath@ ... wrote:> > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> >> > My rough study on your case on the accident part:> >> > As per the points given by Sri.Kudandhai nathan (on Trigons)we have to> > consider the sub of the the houses 4,8,12 for accidents.> >> > When any one of the sublord of these 3 is transitting in the sign where all> > these 3 sublords are connected ( vide signlord,stralord and sublord), and> > if the Das Bukthi and Andra of these Sublords connected are running and when> > Sun and Moon and Asc.,are transitting in that senstive points , the accident> > will happen to a native. If the Bhadaka and Maraka are connected along with> > these, the incident will end in danger to the native.> >> > But if the 1,5,9 sub lords are connected in any sign of the chart, the> > native will escape from such accidents.> >> > In your case, the 1,5,9 sublords are Sun,Moon and Sun. These sensitive link> > can be seen in Leo, Sun sign, Sun Star and Moon sub. This is good to save> > you.> >> > If we look at the 4,8,12 sub lords, surprisingly all the three happen to be> > Jupiter. No planet is in Jupiter.> > So the unfavorable link should involve in Jupiter sign,jupiter star and> > jupiter sub. But this link is not present in any sign. For example , if we> > take Pisces, Jupiter sign lord and Jupiter star lord are ok, but jupiter sub> > is not there. But as Jupiter is more stronger , i doubt if Jupiter sign and> > jupiter star lord itslef is enough to create unfovarable result?> >> > Moreover, The running Dasa .Bukthi must link to these. So the next Dasa> > Jupiter may cause such event?> > The running Dasa Rahu is closely conjuncted with Mars . also Rahu is the> > sublord of Jupiter. So when Rahu Dasa, Jupiter Bukthi, when Jupiter transits> > in Jupiter star and also the sun,moon and lagna are transiting in such> > sensitive point, may it lead to Accidents?> >> > Also we can see Jupiter is lord of 5 and in 5 . The star lord of Jupiter> > Moon is the sub lord of 5th cusp, so it may help you escape such bad> > incidents.> > (as I am out of reach to my software ,as I am out , i could not go> > through well the transit movements and other points. but i took a copy of> > your chart in hand).> >> > All the above reasons may be favoarble in saving you such accidents.> >> > Dear Bhaskar ji, these are my rough findings which I need your or other> > seniors expertise to tune up. If you address to my concerns/doubts in the> > above , that will be more appreciated and I shall be obliged.> >> > Thanks and Regards> > Adith> > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...wrote:> >> >>> >> Dear Adithji,> >>> >> Yes .> >>> >> The RP's taken at time of judgement by are so very perfect by Pavanji,> >> that actually there is no rectification required on the birth time as> >> per my view. But my view is always open to cross examinations by the> >> Experts.> >>> >> regards/Bhaskar.> >>> >> @gro ups.com <%40g roups.com>, "adith> >> kasinath.g.k"> >>> >> gkadithkasinath@ wrote:> >> >> >> > Dear BHASKAR JI AND PAVAN JI> >> >> >> > Hope good analysis and appeal to the same.> >> >> >> > Before trying to do the BTR immediately , if we look into the any> >> > possibilities of any connection between the star/sub lord of the Asc> >> of> >> > natal with the RPs at the time if judgement may help us if any BTR is> >> > required at all.> >> >> >> > Its my humble thought.> >> > May be other memnbers analysis on this will take us into an one more> >> never> >> > ending thread.> >> >> >> > Lets wait for Ajai's analysis as Bhaskar ji has given a go ahead.> >> >> >> > Regards> >> > Adith> >> >> >> >> >> > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...:> >>> >> >> >> > > Dear Pavan ji,> >> > >> >> > > A good effort on Your part.> >> > >> >> > > A small observation -> >> > >> >> > > *At time of Your Judgement the RP's were as under -*> >> > > Ascendant lord - The Sun> >> > > Moon starLord - Venus> >> > > Moon raashi Lord - Mars> >> > > Day Lord - Moon - (Kethu )> >> > >> >> > > Ascendant star lord - Kethu> >> > >> >> > > As per my recorded time of 10.14 am the equation stands as under -> >> > >> >> > > Leo ascendant - Raashi lord - Sun, StarLord Venus, SubLord - Sun.> >> > >> >> > > *The RP's are used only for those factors on which we are doubtful> >> in the> >> > > chart.* Here the Lagna Lord is not doubtful in my natal Chart,> >> because> >> > > Lagna is at 15 degrees so no question of Lagna changing . Therefore> >> what you> >> > > are looking for confirmation , is the StarLord and the Sub lord.> >> Since we> >> > > have not used any of the above RP's for confirming the Lagna Lord,> >> even the> >> > > Sun stays in the RP's. My question to you now, is why dont you allow> >> the Sun> >> > > from the RP's to be used as the SubLord for the ascendant which in> >> any case> >> > > is The Sun, and confirms it. Of course Venus confirms the StarLord> >> as it is.> >> > > Thus the timings does not require any rectification unless one> >> wishes to> >> > > confirm the SubSubLord and fine tune it.> >> > >> >> > > But in any case, what happened to the Sun amongst the RP's you have> >> used> >> > > for rectification purposes ?> >> > >> >> > > regards,> >> > >> >> > > Bhaskar.> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > @gro ups.com <%40g roups.com>, vgr> >> pavan vgr_pavan1@ wrote:> >> > > >> >> > > > PRANAM ALL,> >> > > >> >> > > > I analysed the horoscope of sri bhaskar on 02-02-2009 @19.38> >> hrs> >> > > 16.14N, 80.35E> >> > > >> >> > > > Ruling Planets:> >> > > >> >> > > > Asc : sun kethu> >> > > >> >> > > > Moon : mar ven> >> > > >> >> > > > d.l  moon> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > Now bhaskarji`s Asc is in sun ven sun as per the recorded time. At> >> the> >> > > time of judgement ascis occupied by sat both rahu and kethu> >> represnts him.> >> > > so final r.p are sun, mars, ven, rah,kethu.as mars is moon sign> >> lord and> >> > > aspecting it from the star of sun another r.p i think he is strong.> >> mars wil> >> > > be Asc sub lord and rahu s-s lord. (i left kethu because he rules> >> his brth> >> > > star.) for confirmation i opened k.p 2 reader which give 55 on the> >> right> >> > > side page.> >> > > > (asking the query who rules his asc sub) 55 falls in mer,rah,mars.> >> > > >> >> > > > HIS BRTH TIME COMES TO 10.21 AM.> >> > > >> >> > > > NOW ASC csl Mars is in kethu star and sub of rahu. kethu in 6th> >> and rahu> >> > > is in 12th with mars in kethu star. So asc csl is clearly signifying> >> 6,12.> >> > > But please note that 6,8,12 csl is mercury l/o 2,11 in 10 (no planet> >> in mer> >> > > stars ) in the star of rahu and sub of sat(no planets in sat stars).> >> rahu in> >> > > 12 sat in 5 in sun star l/o asc in 10. So mer is signifying> >> 2,10,11,12 at> >> > > star level and 1,5,7,10 at sub level. So 6,8,and 12th cusps are> >> promising> >> > > favourable results.> >> > > > Sun,mer (l/o1,l/o11) are in sextile with asc promising good health> >> and> >> > > fast recovery.> >> > > >> >> > > > As 6th csl is mercury in a dual sign good at sub level he does not> >> having> >> > > any major health> >> > > > problems.mercury wil give fast recovery from all minor health> >> problems.> >> > > >> >> > > > Bhaskarji this is my analysis i may be wrong . if u can give> >> some of> >> > > your past events to tally your BT it will be good.> >> > > >> >> > > > learned members, correct me if i am wrong.> >> > > >> >> > > > regards.> >> > > >> >> > > > vgr> >> > > >> >> > > > Â> >> > > >> >> > > > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, sujata das sujatadash1@ wrote:> >> > > > sujata das sujatadash1@> >> > >> >> > > > Re: Re: i> >> > > > @gro ups.com <%40g roups.com>> >> > > > Monday, 2 February, 2009, 6:48 PM> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > Dear Mr Raichur> >> > > > Kindly clarify as to why Bhsker never met with an accident/> >> illhealth.> >> > > > Regards> >> > > > sujata> >> > > >> >> > > > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Raichur-a-r raichurar > wrote:> >> > > > Raichur-a-r raichurar >> >> > > > Re: Re: i> >> > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@> >> .co.> >> > > in>> >> > > > Monday, 2 February, 2009, 2:36 PM> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > dear members> >> > > > find the horoscope redrawn as per kpsw of mine. It is zipped for> >> > > transmission> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > raichur anant> >> > > >> >> > > > --- On Sun, 1/2/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:> >> > > >> >> > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> >> > > > Re: i> >> > > > @gro ups.com> >> > > > Sunday, 1 February, 2009, 7:32 PM> >> > > >> >> > > > Dear Singh,> >> > > >> >> > > > I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but just 2> >> > > > astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is because> >> most> >> > > > of the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. But if you> >> wish> >> > > > you may try.> >> > > >> >> > > > 28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( near> >> > > > Vijaywada,Andhra) .> >> > > >> >> > > > You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every where.> >> > > >> >> > > > regards/Bhaskar. .> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > @gro ups.com, "hbk1hbk_2100"> >> > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...>> >> > > > wrote:> >> > > > >> >> > > > > Hello Bhaskar,> >> > > > >> >> > > > > Could you please provide me with your birth data.> >> > > > >> >> > > > > Regards> >> > > > >> >> > > > > G. Singh> >> > > > >> >> > > > > --- In> >> > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@> >> > > > > wrote:> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > Dear Singh ji,> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been> >> admitted> >> > > > > to> >> > > > > > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas Grace.> >> See> >> > > > > these> >> > > > > > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular> >> house (> >> > > > > > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too,> >> therefore> >> > > > > one> >> > > > > > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where in> >> such> >> > > > > cases> >> > > > > > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic houses> >> figuring> >> > > > > in> >> > > > > > the calculations respectively.> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > Unless its a pure case.> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > @gro ups.com,> >> > > > "hbk1hbk_2100"> >> > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@>> >> > > > > > wrote:> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house.> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > G. Singh> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar"> >> > > > bhaskar_jyotish@> >> > > > > > > wrote:> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you> >> > > > have> >> > > > > > > found, all> >> > > > > > > > nine planets signifying one house .> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe> >> > > > just> >> > > > > > > once in> >> > > > > > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962> >> > > > with 7> >> > > > > > > Planets> >> > > > > > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not> >> > > > > happen,> >> > > > > > > but> >> > > > > > > > as per> >> > > > Traditional this signification may be there in such> >> > > > rare> >> > > > > > > example.> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and> >> > > > even> >> > > > > if> >> > > > > > > you> >> > > > > > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such> >> rare> >> > > > > example> >> > > > > > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP> >> > > > Readers,> >> > > > > and> >> > > > > > > other> >> > > > > > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study> >> > > > such> >> > > > > rare> >> > > > > > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively" .> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "sudhagarceg"> >> > > > <sudhagarceg@>> >> > > > > > > > wrote:> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs,> >> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In> >> > > > some> >> > > > > charts> >> > > > > > > i> >> > > > > > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house...> >> > > > FOr> >> > > > > example> >> > > > > > > all> >> > > > > > > > the> >> > > > > > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all> >> > > > the 9> >> > > > > > > planets> >> > > > > > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean?> >> > > > > > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get> >> > > > accidents in all> >> > > > > the> >> > > > > > > > > periods?> >> > > > > > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck> >> > > > and comfort> >> > > > > in> >> > > > > > > > > all the periods?> >> > > > > > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem> >> > > > > effectively.> >> > > > > > > > > Thank you sirs.> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> >> > > >> >> > > > Links> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Dear Sujatha ji,I shall work out my analysis only tomorrow evening when i could access to my software. I shall come back tomorrow night.Thanks and RegardsAdithOn Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 1:16 PM, sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote: Dear Adith and BhaskerI had met with a serious head injury ( head was operated) with fractured collar bone and 2 ribs on 27 3 -82 north east to Patna at about 7pm. We were travelling towards Nepal border, maybe near Motihari. Dasa jup ve sat, ke star day. Ve is the sublord of 4 8. Sat is sublord of 12.My dob is 5-5-55 pob is delhi, near connaught place., tob 9-37 pm My 1 5 9 sublords are ra ju moom.They falll in cancer which is part of the 8th house Its very difficult to pinpoint the future date on the basis of these pointersTo judge an accident Hardeep nagi,who is also a member of this group once told me that if 1st sublord is connected to 6 8 12 and badhak, then only accidents will happen RegardsSujata--- On Wed, 4/2/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: i Wednesday, 4 February, 2009, 3:45 PM Dear Adithji, I thank you for bringing in a very educative subject on board, related to accidents and putting your presentation on same.// As per the points given by Sri.Kudandhai nathan (on Trigons)we have to consider the sub of the the houses 4,8,12 for accidents. When any one of the sublord of these 3 is transitting in the sign where all these 3 sublords are connected ( vide signlord,stralord and sublord), and if the Das Bukthi and Andra of these Sublords connected are running and when Sun and Moon and Asc.,are transitting in that senstive points , the accident will happen to a native. If the Bhadaka and Maraka are connected along with these, the incident will end in danger to the native. // But how does one get to the actual dates or nearabout dates with so much extensive matching of all the pointers ? This seems rather difficult. I suppose I would began by checking what the StarLord of any DashaLord has to offer, and then move on to further pointers suggested by you. // But if the 1,5,9 sub lords are connected in any sign of the chart, the native will escape from such accidents. In your case, the 1,5,9 sublords are Sun,Moon and Sun. These sensitive link can be seen in Leo, Sun sign, Sun Star and Moon sub. This is good to save you.// I am happy now. All this talk on my chart on ill health and accidents has really brought me depression mentally, since last 2-3 days. Whatever faith one may have on his Horoscope or God, after all we are humans and mortals, the fear factor is always present. I hope they also tell me when will I become wealthy enough to make my family happy, and become a better astrologer. // If we look at the 4,8,12 sub lords, surprisingly all the three happen to be Jupiter. No planet is in Jupiter.So the unfavorable link should involve in Jupiter sign,jupiter star and jupiter sub. But this link is not present in any sign. For example , if we take Pisces, Jupiter sign lord and Jupiter star lord are ok, but jupiter sub is not there. But as Jupiter is more stronger , i doubt if Jupiter sign and jupiter star lord itslef is enough to create unfovarable result? // When I change my birth timings to 10.15am, the SubLord of 4th changes to Mercury. What happens in this case ? // Moreover, The running Dasa .Bukthi must link to these. So the next Dasa Jupiter may cause such event? The running Dasa Rahu is closely conjuncted with Mars . also Rahu is the sublord of Jupiter. So when Rahu Dasa, Jupiter Bukthi, when Jupiter transits in Jupiter star and also the sun,moon and lagna are transiting in such sensitive point, may it lead to Accidents? // Also we can see Jupiter is lord of 5 and in 5 .. The star lord of Jupiter Moon is the sub lord of 5th cusp, so it may help you escape such bad incidents. (as I am out of reach to my software ,as I am out , i could not go through well the transit movements and other points. but i took a copy of your chart in hand). All the above reasons may be favoarble in saving you such accidents.// I am not an expert on accidents and keep away from such fearful topics especially on my own chart . But since you have done some hard work on my chart my views are as under . I would primarily see the 8th Cuspal Sub Lord to bring in accidents . For me this planet is Jupiter. It can bring accidents through further planets connected to it as under - 1) Planets in star of occupants in 8th - I have no planets in 8th. 2) Planets in star of owner of 8th - No planet in Owner of 8th who is Jupiter again. 3) Other planets in Sub of 8th - Only Moon. But Moon is not connected to the badhaksthana in any manner, so it should be safe. Or I would rather think in this manner and keep myself free from negative thinking. By the way, the Guru antardasha, do you think could cause Heart trouble ? Or as they say 5 and 8th causes Love affair ( Platonic ?) . What do you think I would suffer from in Guru antar coming in shortly ? It may be difficult for one to reply. In both cases dil ka mamla hai. ( By the way I am not into any affair since I got married quarter of a century ago) Or do you think it could also be a birth of a child to my first child who is a daughter ? Could 5,8 denote surgery to ones child ? Thanks and regards, Bhaskar. @gro ups.com, " adith kasinath.g.k " <gkadithkasinath@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Baskarji > > Hope you received my earlier mail on the analysis.> I will be obliged if if you comment on the same> > Regards> Adith> > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 11:54 AM, adith kasinath.g.k < > gkadithkasinath@ ... wrote:> > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> >> > My rough study on your case on the accident part:> >> > As per the points given by Sri.Kudandhai nathan (on Trigons)we have to > > consider the sub of the the houses 4,8,12 for accidents.> >> > When any one of the sublord of these 3 is transitting in the sign where all> > these 3 sublords are connected ( vide signlord,stralord and sublord), and > > if the Das Bukthi and Andra of these Sublords connected are running and when> > Sun and Moon and Asc.,are transitting in that senstive points , the accident> > will happen to a native. If the Bhadaka and Maraka are connected along with> > these, the incident will end in danger to the native. > >> > But if the 1,5,9 sub lords are connected in any sign of the chart, the> > native will escape from such accidents.> >> > In your case, the 1,5,9 sublords are Sun,Moon and Sun. These sensitive link > > can be seen in Leo, Sun sign, Sun Star and Moon sub. This is good to save> > you.> >> > If we look at the 4,8,12 sub lords, surprisingly all the three happen to be> > Jupiter. No planet is in Jupiter. > > So the unfavorable link should involve in Jupiter sign,jupiter star and> > jupiter sub. But this link is not present in any sign. For example , if we> > take Pisces, Jupiter sign lord and Jupiter star lord are ok, but jupiter sub> > is not there. But as Jupiter is more stronger , i doubt if Jupiter sign and> > jupiter star lord itslef is enough to create unfovarable result? > >> > Moreover, The running Dasa .Bukthi must link to these. So the next Dasa> > Jupiter may cause such event?> > The running Dasa Rahu is closely conjuncted with Mars . also Rahu is the > > sublord of Jupiter. So when Rahu Dasa, Jupiter Bukthi, when Jupiter transits> > in Jupiter star and also the sun,moon and lagna are transiting in such> > sensitive point, may it lead to Accidents? > >> > Also we can see Jupiter is lord of 5 and in 5 . The star lord of Jupiter> > Moon is the sub lord of 5th cusp, so it may help you escape such bad> > incidents.> > (as I am out of reach to my software ,as I am out , i could not go> > through well the transit movements and other points. but i took a copy of> > your chart in hand).> >> > All the above reasons may be favoarble in saving you such accidents. > >> > Dear Bhaskar ji, these are my rough findings which I need your or other> > seniors expertise to tune up. If you address to my concerns/doubts in the> > above , that will be more appreciated and I shall be obliged. > >> > Thanks and Regards> > Adith> > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...wrote:> >> >>> >> Dear Adithji,> >> > >> Yes .> >>> >> The RP's taken at time of judgement by are so very perfect by Pavanji,> >> that actually there is no rectification required on the birth time as> >> per my view. But my view is always open to cross examinations by the> >> Experts.> >>> >> regards/Bhaskar.> >>> >> @gro ups.com <%40g roups.com>, " adith > >> kasinath.g.k " > >>> >> gkadithkasinath@ wrote:> >> >> >> > Dear BHASKAR JI AND PAVAN JI> >> > > >> > Hope good analysis and appeal to the same.> >> >> >> > Before trying to do the BTR immediately , if we look into the any> >> > possibilities of any connection between the star/sub lord of the Asc > >> of> >> > natal with the RPs at the time if judgement may help us if any BTR is> >> > required at all.> >> >> >> > Its my humble thought.> >> > May be other memnbers analysis on this will take us into an one more> >> never> >> > ending thread.> >> >> >> > Lets wait for Ajai's analysis as Bhaskar ji has given a go ahead.> >> >> >> > Regards > >> > Adith> >> >> >> >> >> > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...:> >>> >> >> >> > > Dear Pavan ji, > >> > >> >> > > A good effort on Your part.> >> > >> >> > > A small observation -> >> > >> >> > > *At time of Your Judgement the RP's were as under -* > >> > > Ascendant lord - The Sun> >> > > Moon starLord - Venus> >> > > Moon raashi Lord - Mars> >> > > Day Lord - Moon - (Kethu )> >> > >> >> > > Ascendant star lord - Kethu> >> > >> >> > > As per my recorded time of 10.14 am the equation stands as under -> >> > >> >> > > Leo ascendant - Raashi lord - Sun, StarLord Venus, SubLord - Sun. > >> > >> >> > > *The RP's are used only for those factors on which we are doubtful> >> in the> >> > > chart.* Here the Lagna Lord is not doubtful in my natal Chart, > >> because> >> > > Lagna is at 15 degrees so no question of Lagna changing . Therefore> >> what you> >> > > are looking for confirmation , is the StarLord and the Sub lord. > >> Since we> >> > > have not used any of the above RP's for confirming the Lagna Lord,> >> even the> >> > > Sun stays in the RP's. My question to you now, is why dont you allow> >> the Sun> >> > > from the RP's to be used as the SubLord for the ascendant which in> >> any case> >> > > is The Sun, and confirms it. Of course Venus confirms the StarLord > >> as it is.> >> > > Thus the timings does not require any rectification unless one> >> wishes to> >> > > confirm the SubSubLord and fine tune it.> >> > > > >> > > But in any case, what happened to the Sun amongst the RP's you have> >> used> >> > > for rectification purposes ?> >> > >> >> > > regards, > >> > >> >> > > Bhaskar.> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > @gro ups.com <%40g roups.com>, vgr> >> pavan vgr_pavan1@ wrote: > >> > > >> >> > > > PRANAM ALL,> >> > > >> >> > > > I analysed the horoscope of sri bhaskar on 02-02-2009 @19.38> >> hrs > >> > > 16.14N, 80.35E> >> > > >> >> > > > Ruling Planets:> >> > > >> >> > > > Asc : sun kethu> >> > > > > >> > > > Moon : mar ven> >> > > >> >> > > > d.l  moon> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > Now bhaskarji`s Asc is in sun ven sun as per the recorded time. At > >> the> >> > > time of judgement ascis occupied by sat both rahu and kethu> >> represnts him.> >> > > so final r.p are sun, mars, ven, rah,kethu.as mars is moon sign> >> lord and> >> > > aspecting it from the star of sun another r.p i think he is strong. > >> mars wil> >> > > be Asc sub lord and rahu s-s lord. (i left kethu because he rules> >> his brth> >> > > star.) for confirmation i opened k.p 2 reader which give 55 on the > >> right> >> > > side page.> >> > > > (asking the query who rules his asc sub) 55 falls in mer,rah,mars.> >> > > >> >> > > > HIS BRTH TIME COMES TO 10.21 AM. > >> > > >> >> > > > NOW ASC csl Mars is in kethu star and sub of rahu. kethu in 6th> >> and rahu> >> > > is in 12th with mars in kethu star. So asc csl is clearly signifying> >> 6,12.> >> > > But please note that 6,8,12 csl is mercury l/o 2,11 in 10 (no planet> >> in mer> >> > > stars ) in the star of rahu and sub of sat(no planets in sat stars). > >> rahu in> >> > > 12 sat in 5 in sun star l/o asc in 10. So mer is signifying> >> 2,10,11,12 at> >> > > star level and 1,5,7,10 at sub level. So 6,8,and 12th cusps are > >> promising> >> > > favourable results.> >> > > > Sun,mer (l/o1,l/o11) are in sextile with asc promising good health> >> and> >> > > fast recovery. > >> > > >> >> > > > As 6th csl is mercury in a dual sign good at sub level he does not> >> having> >> > > any major health> >> > > > problems.mercury wil give fast recovery from all minor health> >> problems.> >> > > >> >> > > > Bhaskarji this is my analysis i may be wrong . if u can give > >> some of> >> > > your past events to tally your BT it will be good.> >> > > >> >> > > > learned members, correct me if i am wrong.> >> > > > > >> > > > regards.> >> > > >> >> > > > vgr> >> > > >> >> > > > Â> >> > > >> >> > > > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, sujata das sujatadash1@ wrote: > >> > > > sujata das sujatadash1@> >> > >> >> > > > Re: Re: i> >> > > > @gro ups.com <%40g roups.com>> >> > > > Monday, 2 February, 2009, 6:48 PM > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > Dear Mr Raichur> >> > > > Kindly clarify as to why Bhsker never met with an accident/ > >> illhealth.> >> > > > Regards> >> > > > sujata> >> > > >> >> > > > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Raichur-a-r raichurar > wrote: > >> > > > Raichur-a-r raichurar >> >> > > > Re: Re: i> >> > > > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> >> .co. > >> > > in>> >> > > > Monday, 2 February, 2009, 2:36 PM> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > dear members> >> > > > find the horoscope redrawn as per kpsw of mine. It is zipped for > >> > > transmission> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > raichur anant> >> > > >> >> > > > --- On Sun, 1/2/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:> >> > > >> >> > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> >> > > > Re: i > >> > > > @gro ups.com> >> > > > Sunday, 1 February, 2009, 7:32 PM> >> > > >> >> > > > Dear Singh, > >> > > >> >> > > > I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but just 2> >> > > > astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is because > >> most> >> > > > of the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. But if you> >> wish> >> > > > you may try.> >> > > >> >> > > > 28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( near > >> > > > Vijaywada,Andhra) .> >> > > >> >> > > > You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every where.> >> > > >> >> > > > regards/Bhaskar. . > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > @gro ups.com, " hbk1hbk_2100 " > >> > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...>> >> > > > wrote:> >> > > > >> >> > > > > Hello Bhaskar,> >> > > > > > >> > > > > Could you please provide me with your birth data.> >> > > > >> >> > > > > Regards> >> > > > >> >> > > > > G. Singh > >> > > > >> >> > > > > --- In> >> > > > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@> >> > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > Dear Singh ji,> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been > >> admitted> >> > > > > to> >> > > > > > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas Grace.> >> See> >> > > > > these > >> > > > > > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular> >> house (> >> > > > > > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too, > >> therefore> >> > > > > one> >> > > > > > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where in> >> such> >> > > > > cases> >> > > > > > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic houses > >> figuring> >> > > > > in> >> > > > > > the calculations respectively.> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > Unless its a pure case. > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > @gro ups.com, > >> > > > " hbk1hbk_2100 " > >> > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@>> >> > > > > > wrote:> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house. > >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > G. Singh> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " > >> > > > bhaskar_jyotish@> >> > > > > > > wrote:> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you > >> > > > have> >> > > > > > > found, all> >> > > > > > > > nine planets signifying one house .> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe > >> > > > just> >> > > > > > > once in> >> > > > > > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962> >> > > > with 7 > >> > > > > > > Planets> >> > > > > > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not> >> > > > > happen,> >> > > > > > > but > >> > > > > > > > as per> >> > > > Traditional this signification may be there in such> >> > > > rare> >> > > > > > > example.> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and> >> > > > even > >> > > > > if> >> > > > > > > you> >> > > > > > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such> >> rare> >> > > > > example > >> > > > > > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP> >> > > > Readers,> >> > > > > and> >> > > > > > > other > >> > > > > > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study> >> > > > such> >> > > > > rare> >> > > > > > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively " .> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " sudhagarceg " > >> > > > <sudhagarceg@>> >> > > > > > > > wrote:> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > >> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In> >> > > > some> >> > > > > charts > >> > > > > > > i> >> > > > > > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house...> >> > > > FOr> >> > > > > example> >> > > > > > > all > >> > > > > > > > the> >> > > > > > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all> >> > > > the 9> >> > > > > > > planets > >> > > > > > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean?> >> > > > > > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get> >> > > > accidents in all > >> > > > > the> >> > > > > > > > > periods?> >> > > > > > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck> >> > > > and comfort> >> > > > > in> >> > > > > > > > > all the periods?> >> > > > > > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem > >> > > > > effectively.> >> > > > > > > > > Thank you sirs.> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> >> > > >> >> > > > Links> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 bhaskarji pranam,when i read ur mail that your time is "recorded" i thought that "what will be his exact lagna position ?" i noted the rp then only i opened your chart and i found you are born in simha lagna.As venus is strong ruling planet (even though kethu is lagna star lord powerful than ven who is only moon star lord. But he ven repeated twice as moon sublord too). i thought that your lagna star lord will be venus. (note if your lagna is in kethu star i might judge it when moon is in kethu star during day time.) .Now the question is about lagna sub lord. sun, who is RP lagna lord was already used and he is in conjunction with jup, he is also represented by rahu, kethu thats why i had a doubt to select sun as your lagna sub lord. i opened the book to resolve my doubt and found no.55. which is mer,rah,mars. mars is moon sign lord and aspecting both RP moon and lagna. I thought that if he is born in sun sub i could have get no.53 which is only one page before. Also as stated in book "rectifation of birthtime"to give preference to moon position especially when that horoscop is first one of the day. i thought your langa sub may be mars. I may be wrong but above are my reasons, And pls mention a no.1-249. for my information. I really feel happy if learned members correct me if i am wrong .regards vgr.pavan--- On Tue, 3/2/09, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath wrote:adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinathRe: Re: i Date: Tuesday, 3 February, 2009, 4:07 PM Dear BHASKAR JI AND PAVAN JIHope good analysis and appeal to the same.Before trying to do the BTR immediately , if we look into the any possibilities of any connection between the star/sub lord of the Asc of natal with the RPs at the time if judgement may help us if any BTR is required at all. Its my humble thought.May be other memnbers analysis on this will take us into an one more never ending thread.Lets wait for Ajai's analysis as Bhaskar ji has given a go ahead.RegardsAdith On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: Dear Pavan ji, A good effort on Your part. A small observation - At time of Your Judgement the RP's were as under - Ascendant lord - The Sun Moon starLord - Venus Moon raashi Lord - Mars Day Lord - Moon - (Kethu ) Ascendant star lord - Kethu As per my recorded time of 10.14 am the equation stands as under - Leo ascendant - Raashi lord - Sun, StarLord Venus, SubLord - Sun. The RP's are used only for those factors on which we are doubtful in the chart. Here the Lagna Lord is not doubtful in my natal Chart, because Lagna is at 15 degrees so no question of Lagna changing . Therefore what you are looking for confirmation , is the StarLord and the Sub lord. Since we have not used any of the above RP's for confirming the Lagna Lord, even the Sun stays in the RP's. My question to you now, is why dont you allow the Sun from the RP's to be used as the SubLord for the ascendant which in any case is The Sun, and confirms it. Of course Venus confirms the StarLord as it is. Thus the timings does not require any rectification unless one wishes to confirm the SubSubLord and fine tune it. But in any case, what happened to the Sun amongst the RP's you have used for rectification purposes ? regards, Bhaskar. @gro ups.com, vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1@. ..> wrote:>> PRANAM ALL,> > I analysed the horoscope of sri bhaskar on 02-02-2009 @19.38 hrs 16.14N, 80.35E > > Ruling Planets:> > Asc : sun kethu> > Moon : mar ven> > d.l  moon> > > Now bhaskarji`s Asc is in sun ven sun as per the recorded time. At the time of judgement ascis occupied by sat both rahu and kethu represnts him. so final r.p are sun, mars, ven, rah,kethu.as mars is moon sign lord and aspecting it from the star of sun another r.p i think he is strong. mars wil be Asc sub lord and rahu s-s lord. (i left kethu because he rules his brth star.) for confirmation i opened k.p 2 reader which give 55 on the right side page. > (asking the query who rules his asc sub) 55 falls in mer,rah,mars. > > HIS BRTH TIME COMES TO 10.21 AM.> > NOW ASC csl Mars is in kethu star and sub of rahu. kethu in 6th and rahu is in 12th with mars in kethu star. So asc csl is clearly signifying 6,12. But please note that 6,8,12 csl is mercury l/o 2,11 in 10 (no planet in mer stars ) in the star of rahu and sub of sat(no planets in sat stars). rahu in 12 sat in 5 in sun star l/o asc in 10. So mer is signifying 2,10,11,12 at star level and 1,5,7,10 at sub level. So 6,8,and 12th cusps are promising favourable results. > Sun,mer (l/o1,l/o11) are in sextile with asc promising good health and fast recovery.> > As 6th csl is mercury in a dual sign good at sub level he does not having any major health> problems.mercury wil give fast recovery from all minor health problems. > > Bhaskarji this is my analysis i may be wrong . if u can give some of your past events to tally your BT it will be good.> > learned members, correct me if i am wrong. > > regards.> > vgr> >  > > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, sujata das sujatadash1@ ... wrote:> sujata das sujatadash1@ ... > Re: Re: i> @gro ups.com> Monday, 2 February, 2009, 6:48 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr Raichur> Kindly clarify as to why Bhsker never met with an accident/ illhealth.> Regards> sujata> > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Raichur-a-r raichurar > wrote: > Raichur-a-r raichurar >> Re: Re: i> @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > Monday, 2 February, 2009, 2:36 PM> > > > > > > > > > dear members> find the horoscope redrawn as per kpsw of mine. It is zipped for transmission > > > raichur anant > > --- On Sun, 1/2/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > Re: i> @gro ups.com> Sunday, 1 February, 2009, 7:32 PM> > Dear Singh,> > I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but just 2 > astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is because most> of the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. But if you wish> you may try.> > 28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( near > Vijaywada,Andhra) .> > You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every where.> > regards/Bhaskar. .> > > > > @gro ups.com, "hbk1hbk_2100" > <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...>> wrote:> >> > Hello Bhaskar,> >> > Could you please provide me with your birth data.> >> > Regards> >> > G. Singh > >> > --- In> @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Singh ji, > > >> > > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been admitted> > to> > > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas Grace. See> > these > > > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular house (> > > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too, therefore> > one> > > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where in such > > cases> > > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic houses figuring> > in> > > the calculations respectively.> > >> > > Unless its a pure case. > > >> > > regards/Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > @gro ups.com, > "hbk1hbk_2100"> <hbk1hbk_2100@>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house.> > > >> > > > G. Singh > > > >> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar"> bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you> have> > > > found, all> > > > > nine planets signifying one house . > > > > >> > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe> just> > > > once in> > > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 > with 7> > > > Planets> > > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not> > happen,> > > > but> > > > > as per> Traditional this signification may be there in such > rare> > > > example.> > > > >> > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and> even> > if> > > > you> > > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare > > example> > > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP> Readers,> > and> > > > other> > > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study > such> > rare> > > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively" .> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > @gro ups.com, "sudhagarceg"> <sudhagarceg@>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Sirs,> >> > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In> some> > charts> > > > i > > > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house...> FOr> > example> > > > all> > > > > the> > > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all > the 9> > > > planets> > > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean?> > > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get> accidents in all > > the> > > > > > periods?> > > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck> and comfort> > in> > > > > > all the periods? > > > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem> > effectively.> > > > > > Thank you sirs.> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Dear PunitThis would imply that planets in6 10 houses can also give marriage, provided that their cuspal sublords signify 2 7 11 through star and sub.No wonder, my mer in 6th H had played as bhukti and star lord in both of my marriagesRegardsSujata--- On Wed, 4/2/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:Punit Pandey <punitpRe: Re: i Date: Wednesday, 4 February, 2009, 12:06 PM Dear Friends,Recent posts in this thread, points towards a confusion in analysis of the charts where we have all the planets (or many planets) signifying a single house. Some of the quotes are -Raichur ji said, "you are the most fortunate man" Sujata ji said, "why Bhaskar never met with an accident/ illhelath"Sunil ji said "This would naturally mean that no matter what dasha or bhukti the native is running, there will be improvement in his monetary situation." I believe that we are missing one very fundamental points in birth chart analysis and that is the reason there seems some confusion. The point that a person will get what is promised in his chart. Not everybody get results of a house signified by a planets. For example, suppose I have all planets signifying 12th house, I may get foreign travel but not hospitalization or vice-versa in my lifetime. As per KP, to figure out what is promised for a house and what is not, we need to check the sub-lord of the cusp of that house. In above example, if 12th cuspal sub lord is signifying 1st and 6th, one may get hospitalization. If 12th cuspal sub lord signifying 3rd, 9th, 12th, he may get foreign travels etc. If 12th cuspal sublord signifying 1st, 3rd, 6th, 9th, 12th etc. he may get both hospitalization and foreign travel. It depends. We should also see the nature of the sub lord to get a better idea. Let us take example of Mr. G. Singh's chart. He has all the nine planets signifying 11th house. 11th house tells us about matters related to "Profit or gain, income, all kinds of receipts, acquisition, gain, desire, passion, fulfillment of one's desire, wealth or riches, brothers and sisters - elder one, friends" Will he get all? In my opinion, he will get everything that is promised in his chart. In his chart, 11th house sub lord is Moon signifying 11, 10, 3, 8, and 5. 5th house is negating quite a few benefits of 11th house e.g. gain from competition/ others etc. 10th house is also negating some of the benefits of 11th house by being 12th to 11th house. 8th house is not good generally for quite a few matters including income and gains.. It definately tells use that the things would not have come as easy to his as it looks from the high level view of the chart. 5th house and 8th house suggests that he is fortunate in relationships and love affairs, as he told us. So to reiterate my point again - one gets what is promised in the chart. Thanks & Regards,Punit PandeyOn Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:50 AM, hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100@ > wrote: Hello Bhaskar, Let me give you my brief thoughts as I have very aggressive schedule. Rahu in your chart is in 12th house and most of your planets are connected with Rahu. But understand Rahu is in your Lagna lord Sun's sign. Sun the ruler of 1st house is in 10th house. Rahu in Leo is stronger than sun to give 1st house and 10th house results. So planets in rahu's nakshtra are giving you 10th house and 1st house results more predominantly and your health is okay. Alot depends on the analysis of the house cusp lords, but it is fruitful only if your birth time is very accurate. Also even if a planet is in 12th house but if it is close to the 1st house cusp, it will end up giving 1st house results instead of 12th house results. Now you tell me how accurate your birth time is as I don't have time for your BTR. But be careful in Rahu / Mars period especially if Rahu is transiting in Mars nakshatra at that time because these two planets can do big harm, and then you will remember me. Regards G. Singh @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > Dear Singhji, > > This is KP learnt and applied in bits, but not complete. > > 1) Can you answer why is it , that though I have all planets signifying > 6th and 12th house, due to their being placed in Constellation of Nodes, > and the Nodes occupy 6/12 axis, yet why have I never been admitted in a > hospital or face dany health problems of any worry? > > 2) Rahu has actually done very good for me. I do not accept it as a > Badhak just because you think it is placed with the badhak ? Can you > explain the astrological reason for it being a Badhaka ? > > 3) Does Jupiter does not signify any other houses ? > > 4) Where are the roles of the sublords of other planets and Cusps ? > > 5) You write that Sun, Mercury, Ketu, Mars, rahu, jupiter, Moon are > significators of 12th house. But dont they signify other houses too ? > > 6) You write that " You should be careful when the signicators of 6th, > 8th, 12th, and badhaka will act together in dasha, bhukti and anthras. > " This is not just for me, but for everybody living in this world . > > 7) By the way, venus has given me the most pleasures in Life during its > dasha . > > Can you please explain me astrologically ( KP ) why none of your points > match with actual hapennings in my Life ? > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "hbk1hbk_2100" <hbk1hbk_2100@> > wrote: > > > > Hello Bhaskar, > > > > 1. You have Moon, Mars, Rahu in the constellation of Ketu in 6th > > house. > > > > 2. Jupiter is the strong significator of 8th house as there is no > > planet in jupiter's nakshatra, and there is no occupant in eighth > > house. > > > > 3. Sun, Mercury, Ketu, Mars, rahu, jupiter, Moon are significators of > > 12th house. > > > > 4. For Leo ascendant Mars is the badhaka planet as it rules the 9th > > house. Rahu in conjunction with Mars will be a strong badhaka planet. > > > > Most of your planets are in the subs of rahu. I did not get into > > further details as it will take too much of my time. > > > > You should be careful when the signicators of 6th, 8th, 12th, and > > badhaka will act together in dasha, bhukti and anthras. > > > > Rahu and Venus are very strong badhaka planets for you. Venus is > > occupant of 9th house and no planet in its constellation. > > > > You should be very careful when rahu, venus, will act with > > significators of 8th house Jupiter and the 12th house significators > > mentioned above. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Strong significators: > > > > 1 SAT, VENUS > > 2. MERCURY > > 3. VENUS > > 4. JUPITER, MARS > > 5. JUPITER, SAT > > 6. MOON, MARS, RAHU, SAT, KETU > > 7. SAT > > 8. JUPITER > > 9. VENUS, MARS > > 10. VENUS, SAT, MERCURY, VENUS > > 11. MERCURY > > 12. SUN, MERCURY, KETU, MARS, JUPITER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Singh, > > > > > > I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but just 2 > > > astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is because > > most > > > of the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. But if you > > wish > > > you may try. > > > > > > 28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( near > > > Vijaywada,Andhra) . > > > > > > You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every where. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "hbk1hbk_2100" <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > Could you please provide me with your birth data. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Singh ji, > > > > > > > > > > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been > > admitted > > > > to > > > > > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas Grace. > > See > > > > these > > > > > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular > > house ( > > > > > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too, > > therefore > > > > one > > > > > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where in such > > > > cases > > > > > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic houses > > figuring > > > > in > > > > > the calculations respectively. > > > > > > > > > > Unless its a pure case. > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "hbk1hbk_2100" > > <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house.. > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you have > > > > > > found, all > > > > > > > nine planets signifying one house . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe > > just > > > > > > once in > > > > > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962 > > with 7 > > > > > > Planets > > > > > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not > > > > happen, > > > > > > but > > > > > > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in such > > rare > > > > > > example. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and > > even > > > > if > > > > > > you > > > > > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare > > > > example > > > > > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP > > Readers, > > > > and > > > > > > other > > > > > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study > > such > > > > rare > > > > > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively".. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "sudhagarceg" > > <sudhagarceg@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In some > > > > charts > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house.. FOr > > > > example > > > > > > all > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all > > the 9 > > > > > > planets > > > > > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > > > > > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get accidents in > > all > > > > the > > > > > > > > periods? > > > > > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck and > > comfort > > > > in > > > > > > > > all the periods? > > > > > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem > > > > effectively. > > > > > > > > Thank you sirs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Dear Mr RaoThankyou. In my chart, rectified by Dr Kar and K Ganpathy, the 4th and 8th sub lord is ven which also owns the 11th. The rule failed in my case.Regardssujata--- On Mon, 2/2/09, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1Re: Re: i Cc: "Sujata Das" <sujatadash1, "Sujata Das" <sujatadash1Monday, 2 February, 2009, 8:47 PM Sujata, Pl. refer the excellent book,ASTROSECRETS & K.P.,my the late Mr.M.P. Shanmugham,and edited by Mr.K.Subramaniam. ..if in one's Birth Chart,the s/l of the VIIIth signiofies I,V IX & XI...one will never meet with an accident in his life... L.Y.Rao. sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>@gro ups.comMonday, 2 February, 2009 6:48:49 PMRe: Re: i Dear Mr RaichurKindly clarify as to why Bhsker never met with an accident/ illhealth.Regardssujata--- On Mon, 2/2/09, Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote: Raichur-a-r <raichurar >Re: Re: i@gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>Monday, 2 February, 2009, 2:36 PM dear members find the horoscope redrawn as per kpsw of mine. It is zipped for transmission raichur anant --- On Sun, 1/2/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> Re: i@gro ups.comSunday, 1 February, 2009, 7:32 PMDear Singh,I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but just 2astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is because mostof the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. But if you wishyou may try.28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( nearVijaywada,Andhra) .You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every where.regards/Bhaskar.. .@gro ups.com, "hbk1hbk_2100"<hbk1hbk_2100@ ...>wrote:>> Hello Bhaskar,>> Could you please provide me with your birth data.>> Regards>> G. Singh>> --- In @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:> >> >> > Dear Singh ji,> >> > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been admitted> to> > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas Grace. See> these> > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular house (> > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too, therefore> one> > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where in such> cases> > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic houses figuring> in> > the calculations respectively.> >> > Unless its a pure case.> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> >> >> > @gro ups.com, "hbk1hbk_2100"<hbk1hbk_2100@>> > wrote:> > >> > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house.> > >> > > G. Singh> > >> > >> > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar"bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where youhave> > > found, all> > > > nine planets signifying one house .> > > >> > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybejust> > > once in> > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962with 7> > > Planets> > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not> happen,> > > but> > > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in suchrare> > > example.> > > >> > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, andeven> if> > > you> > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare> example> > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KPReaders,> and> > > other> > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to studysuch> rare> > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively" .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com, "sudhagarceg"<sudhagarceg@>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sirs,> > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. Insome> charts> > > i> > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house...FOr> example> > > all> > > > the> > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart allthe 9> > > planets> > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean?> > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will getaccidents in all> the> > > > > periods?> > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luckand comfort> in> > > > > all the periods?> > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem> effectively.> > > > > Thank you sirs.> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Dear BhaskarI am Sorry Why should u worry about such inane mattersRegardsSujata--- On Mon, 2/2/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: i Date: Monday, 2 February, 2009, 8:33 PM Dear Sujata ji, Previously also you have mis-spelt my name on 3-4 occasions. Just reminding you my good name is " Bhaskar ". I kept mum previously but has been repeating too many times. With due respects to you, Bhaskar. @gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Mr Raichur> Kindly clarify as to why Bhsker never met with an accident/ illhealth.> Regards> sujata> > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Raichur-a-r raichurar@.. . wrote:> Raichur-a-r raichurar@.. .> Re: Re: i> @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@ ....> Monday, 2 February, 2009, 2:36 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > dear members> find the horoscope redrawn as per kpsw of mine. It is zipped for transmission> > > raichur anant > > --- On Sun, 1/2/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> Re: i> To: @gro ups.com> Sunday, 1 February, 2009, 7:32 PM> > Dear Singh,> > I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but just 2> astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is because most> of the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. But if you wish> you may try.> > 28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( near> Vijaywada,Andhra) .> > You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every where.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > @gro ups.com, "hbk1hbk_2100"> <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...>> wrote:> >> > Hello Bhaskar,> >> > Could you please provide me with your birth data.> >> > Regards> >> > G. Singh> >> > --- In @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Singh ji,> > >> > > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been admitted> > to> > > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas Grace. See> > these> > > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular house (> > > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too, therefore> > one> > > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where in such> > cases> > > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic houses figuring> > in> > > the calculations respectively.> > >> > > Unless its a pure case.> > >> > > regards/Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > @gro ups.com, "hbk1hbk_2100"> <hbk1hbk_2100@>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house.> > > >> > > > G. Singh> > > >> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar"> bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you> have> > > > found, all> > > > > nine planets signifying one house .> > > > >> > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe> just> > > > once in> > > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962> with 7> > > > Planets> > > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not> > happen,> > > > but> > > > > as per Traditional this signification may be there in such> rare> > > > example.> > > > >> > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and> even> > if> > > > you> > > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare> > example> > > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP> Readers,> > and> > > > other> > > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study> such> > rare> > > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively" ..> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > @gro ups.com, "sudhagarceg"> <sudhagarceg@>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Sirs,> > > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In> some> > charts> > > > i> > > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house...> FOr> > example> > > > all> > > > > the> > > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all> the 9> > > > planets> > > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean?> > > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get> accidents in all> > the> > > > > > periods?> > > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck> and comfort> > in> > > > > > all the periods?> > > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem> > effectively.> > > > > > Thank you sirs.> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Dear Pavanji, I appreciate your hard work in attempting to confirm every step from the Divine insights available to us in the form of the RP's and The Horary Numbers etc.available to us. As I mentioned in my previous mails, we have to use the RP's judiciously and avoid any wanton use. Thus we must attempt rectification or confirmation only on the factors given to us by the native, or if not given, then understood that there could be just few minutes difference plus or minus in the given time. In my own case I have just mentioned that my Birth time is recorded, and not ventured any suspicions about the time not being right, or displayed any such fears, which implies that the rectification if necessary, would only be minimal. Since my Lagna degrees is about 15 degrees, it is understood that this needs no rectification . Now regards to starLord of the ascendant who is Venus in my case as per recorded birth time. The StarLord Ketu gets its place only uptil 15.33 degrees in the sign Leo while Ascedant degrees as per recorded time 10.14 am comes to 15.52 degrees. This means that if I had born 1 minute 16 seconds before ( 19secs x 4 = 76 seconds) I would have got Ketu starLord for ascendant. In the LSRD, the Moon StarLord is more important in Order of preference after the Lagna Lord. In this case the RP's show Venus as the Moon starlord hence it is wiser to take Venus as the starLord for the ascendant. Since according to me The Sun was not to be used for determining the Lagna Lord, as there was no doubt aboput same, The Suin stays in the RP's and is now utilsed to confirm the Sub lord. Yes Rahu does represent the Sun in the RP's but we normally do not delete the Planets through which the Nodes appear in the RP's. We just keep them aside in case we may need them. ( In any case Rahu is also confirmed of its importance in this Chart, as it appears on the ascendant ) Thanks once again. regards, Bhaskar. , vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 wrote:>> bhaskarji pranam,> > when i read ur mail that your time is "recorded" i thought that "what will be his exact lagna position ?" i noted the rp then only i opened your chart and i found you are born in simha lagna.As venus is strong ruling planet (even though kethu is lagna star lord powerful than ven who is only moon star lord. But he ven repeated twice as moon sublord too). i thought that your lagna star lord will be venus. (note if your lagna is in kethu star i might judge it when moon is in kethu star during day time.) .Now the question is about lagna sub lord. sun, who is RP lagna lord was already used and he is in conjunction with jup, he is also represented by rahu, kethu thats why i had a doubt to select sun as your lagna sub lord. i opened the book to resolve my doubt and found no.55. which is mer,rah,mars. mars is moon sign lord and aspecting both RP moon and lagna. I thought that if he is born in sun sub i could have get no.53 which is only one page before. Also> as stated in book "rectifation of birthtime"> to give preference to moon position especially when that horoscop is first one of the day. > i thought your langa sub may be mars. > > I may be wrong but above are my reasons, > > And pls mention a no.1-249. for my information. > > I really feel happy if learned members correct me if i am wrong .> > regards > > vgr.pavan> --- On Tue, 3/2/09, adith kasinath.g.k gkadithkasinath wrote:> adith kasinath.g.k gkadithkasinath Re: Re: i> > Tuesday, 3 February, 2009, 4:07 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear BHASKAR JI AND PAVAN JI> > Hope good analysis and appeal to the same.> > Before trying to do the BTR immediately , if we look into the any possibilities of any connection between the star/sub lord of the Asc of natal with the RPs at the time if judgement may help us if any BTR is required at all.> > > Its my humble thought.> May be other memnbers analysis on this will take us into an one more never ending thread.> > Lets wait for Ajai's analysis as Bhaskar ji has given a go ahead.> > Regards> Adith> > > > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pavan ji,> A good effort on Your part.> A small observation -> At time of Your Judgement the RP's were as under -> Ascendant lord - The Sun> Moon starLord - Venus> Moon raashi Lord - Mars> Day Lord - Moon - (Kethu )>  > Ascendant star lord - Kethu> As per my recorded time of 10.14 am the equation stands as under -> Leo ascendant - Raashi lord - Sun, StarLord Venus, SubLord - Sun.> The RP's are used only for those factors on which we are doubtful in the chart. Here the Lagna Lord is not doubtful in my natal Chart, because Lagna is at 15 degrees so no question of Lagna changing . Therefore what you are looking for confirmation , is the StarLord and the Sub lord. Since we have not used any of the above RP's for confirming the Lagna Lord, even the Sun stays in the RP's. My question to you now, is why dont you allow the Sun from the RP's to be used as the SubLord for the ascendant which in any case is The Sun, and confirms it. Of course Venus confirms the StarLord as it is. Thus the timings does not require any rectification unless one wishes to confirm the SubSubLord and fine tune it. > > But in any case, what happened to the Sun amongst the RP's you have used for rectification purposes ?> regards,> Bhaskar.>  > > @gro ups.com, vgr pavan vgr_pavan1@ ..> wrote:> >> > PRANAM ALL,> > > > I analysed the horoscope of sri bhaskar on 02-02-2009 @19.38 hrs 16.14N, 80.35E> > > > > Ruling Planets:> > > > Asc : sun kethu> > > > Moon : mar ven> > > > d.l  moon> > > > > > Now bhaskarji`s Asc is in sun ven sun as per the recorded time. At the time of judgement ascis occupied by sat both rahu and kethu represnts him. so final r.p are sun, mars, ven, rah,kethu.as mars is moon sign lord and aspecting it from the star of sun another r.p i think he is strong. mars wil be Asc sub lord and rahu s-s lord. (i left kethu because he rules his brth star.) for confirmation i opened k.p 2 reader which give 55 on the right side page.> > > (asking the query who rules his asc sub) 55 falls in mer,rah,mars. > > > > HIS BRTH TIME COMES TO 10.21 AM.> > > > NOW ASC csl Mars is in kethu star and sub of rahu. kethu in 6th and rahu is in 12th with mars in kethu star. So asc csl is clearly signifying 6,12. But please note that 6,8,12 csl is mercury l/o 2,11 in 10 (no planet in mer stars ) in the star of rahu and sub of sat(no planets in sat stars). rahu in 12 sat in 5 in sun star l/o asc in 10. So mer is signifying 2,10,11,12 at star level and 1,5,7,10 at sub level. So 6,8,and 12th cusps are promising favourable results.> > > Sun,mer (l/o1,l/o11) are in sextile with asc promising good health and fast recovery.> > > > As 6th csl is mercury in a dual sign good at sub level he does not having any major health> > problems.mercury wil give fast recovery from all minor health problems.> > > > > Bhaskarji this is my analysis i may be wrong . if u can give some of your past events to tally your BT it will be good.> > > > learned members, correct me if i am wrong.> > > > > regards.> > > > vgr> > > >  > > > > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, sujata das sujatadash1@ ... wrote:> > sujata das sujatadash1@ ...> > > Re: Re: i> > @gro ups.com> > Monday, 2 February, 2009, 6:48 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr Raichur> > Kindly clarify as to why Bhsker never met with an accident/ illhealth.> > Regards> > sujata> > > > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Raichur-a-r raichurar > wrote:> > > Raichur-a-r raichurar >> > Re: Re: i> > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > > Monday, 2 February, 2009, 2:36 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear members> > find the horoscope redrawn as per kpsw of mine. It is zipped for transmission> > > > > > > raichur anant > > > > --- On Sun, 1/2/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:> > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > > Re: i> > @gro ups.com> > Sunday, 1 February, 2009, 7:32 PM> > > > Dear Singh,> > > > I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but just 2> > > astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is because most> > of the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. But if you wish> > you may try.> > > > 28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( near> > > Vijaywada,Andhra) .> > > > You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every where.> > > > regards/Bhaskar. .> > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "hbk1hbk_2100"> > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...>> > wrote:> > >> > > Hello Bhaskar,> > >> > > Could you please provide me with your birth data.> > >> > > Regards> > >> > > G. Singh> > > >> > > --- In> > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Singh ji,> > > > >> > > > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been admitted> > > to> > > > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas Grace. See> > > these> > > > > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular house (> > > > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too, therefore> > > one> > > > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where in such> > > > cases> > > > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic houses figuring> > > in> > > > the calculations respectively.> > > >> > > > Unless its a pure case.> > > > >> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com,> > > "hbk1hbk_2100"> > <hbk1hbk_2100@>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house.> > > > >> > > > > G. Singh> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar"> > bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you> > have> > > > > found, all> > > > > > nine planets signifying one house .> > > > > > >> > > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe> > just> > > > > once in> > > > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962> > > with 7> > > > > Planets> > > > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not> > > happen,> > > > > but> > > > > > as per> > Traditional this signification may be there in such> > > rare> > > > > example.> > > > > >> > > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and> > even> > > if> > > > > you> > > > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare> > > > example> > > > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP> > Readers,> > > and> > > > > other> > > > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study> > > such> > > rare> > > > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively" .> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > @gro ups.com, "sudhagarceg"> > <sudhagarceg@>> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Sirs,> > >> > > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In> > some> > > charts> > > > > i> > > > > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house...> > FOr> > > example> > > > > all> > > > > > the> > > > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all> > > the 9> > > > > planets> > > > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean?> > > > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get> > accidents in all> > > > the> > > > > > > periods?> > > > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck> > and comfort> > > in> > > > > > > all the periods?> > > > > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem> > > effectively.> > > > > > > Thank you sirs.> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Dear Mr. Bohra, My 11th house cusp lord is moon, not sun as mentioned in your message. Moon is in the nakshatra of an occupant of 11th house that is Venus. I have gone through very good period in my life whenever I had gone through Venus and Moon's periods together. You can say Moon/Venus period, Rahu/Moon/Venus, Mars/Moon/Venus, Mars/Venus/Moon, Rahu/Venus/Moon period were very good periods for money,love, happiness and travel, you can't imagine. I had relationships with very good looking women during these periods, that happens only in movies. Just see both Venus and Moon are significators of 5th and 8th house in my case in addition to 11th and 10th house. The astrology books say that 5th and 8th house connection is bad. But understand that Moon is in the nakshatra of 11th house occupant Venus, and Venus is in the nakshatra of 10th house occupant Moon. So they still gave me excellent results. As Venus and Moon represent 5th and 8th house significators which becomes 11th and 2nd house to the 7th house. But they are connected to my 10th and 11th house which are unfavorable houses 4th and 5th of my opponents. So bad for the opponents and good for me. Venus and Moon are cusp house lords of so many houses in my chart. That makes 3rd house and 11th house very prominent. So I am in contracting business and I travel by air every week. The only planet that bothered me was Saturn. It rules 11th and 12th house. Although Saturn is placed in Moon's nakshatra and sub and moon is in 10th house, and saturn is in 11th house with all other planets and it negates the evil results of 12th house. But still Saturn is a strong significator of 12th house as well. Because there is no planet in 12th house, and there is no planet in the nakshatra of 12th lord Saturn. That makes saturn a very strong sigificator of 12th house as well. During Jupiter/Saturn period it gave me lot of money but it gave me big expenses as well at same time. In your message, you are right about Jupiter, Mercury, and Ketu. I would say Ketu is the strongest planet in my chart because it is in conjunction with all 7 planets. So Jupiter/Mercury and Jupiter/Ketu would be interesting periods in my life. Regards G. Singh , " msbohra62 " <msbohra62 wrote: > > Dear Punit ji, > > I am new in KP system,I will explain what I have learn to read the > messages of the forum. > > When a such situation happened as like Mr.Singh's chart,in my view > firstly we should see the Cusp,here 11th house. > > " " The nature / type of event for each house depends on the Lords of > star, sub & sign on the cusp. > Planet is a source of event having a star, sub & sign lords. A sub- sub > is considered at times to improve the precision. " " > > > Cusp Controllers : The Cusp controllers are the Sign-Star-Sub, of > these the Star-Lord is important as it defines the event for that Cusp > / House. The Sub-Lord has the power to negate the effects proposed by > the same house and has the final authority. In such a scenario if a > planet is occupying the house under consideration it may occupy any of > the stars in the span of that house and it will also be in a specific > Sub, the effects of such a planet then should be finally under the > control of the cusp Star-Lord and Sub-Lord and if they support then > the occupying planet can perform to its optimum potential > > Mr.Singh have seven planets in 11th house and 9 planets signifying > 11th house so Cusp controls the effects of all planets. > > Here 11th Cusp SUN(SL),Ketu(Sub Lord) and Rahu(SSL).Sun is signify > 6,11 so gain through 6th house(by Loan).Sub lord is Ketu is in 11th so > he will be benefited by loans,Rahu is in 5th(Love,Education,Child and > poorv Karma).So 11th Cups associated with 5th,6th and 11th houses.Gain > through friends,love affair or partnership,by quarrel,court cases and > by loans.All indicate that he is always have debt in his account. (11th > is 6th to 6th house). > > In KP each planet has a Sub-Lord whose effects are most prominently > seen in predictions. If in one Nakshatra 2 planets are present and if > the Sub-Lords are different for each then different results are > experienced > > Here,Jupiter,Mercury and Ketu are in Mars star and sub of Rahu but > sun-sub are Sun,Saturn and Saturn respectively.Again sub-sub of > Mercury and Ketu are same than we look SSSL for each result. > > 2nd.9th and 11th house result will be give by Jupiter,Mercury and Ketu > because they all are in Dhanishta the star of Mars.The result will be > same for these three Planets Dasa period? No! > > " " A transiting planet is a variable, next is the Sign-Lord followed by > Star-Lord. This transiting planet will now occupy one of the 9 > Sub-parts in the Star, this sub-part is ruled by one of the 9 planets > hence the term Sub-Lord was introduced followed by the Sub-Sub- Lord. > The planet transiting a house is now a source of an event, Star- Lord, > Sub-Lord, Sub-Sub-Lord and the Sign-Lord will decide the course of > events indicated by the House. " " > > So in all these scenario Mr.Sing is not gaining or benefice by all > means because all the 9 planets signifying the 11th house.If we > consider " Vimshottari Dasha " for final result,which will decide the > good or bad effects of period,we can analyse the real picture. > > It is little which i have learned,if some were I am wrong than please > correct me. > > Thanks, > > M.S.Bohra > 5.2.2009 > > > > > > , Punit Pandey <punitp@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bohra ji, > > > > Can you please take G. Singh ji's chart as an example and explain > what you > > mean by using sub and sub-sub in such situation? Also when we should > use sub > > and sub-sub? Only when we have many planets in one house or always? > Would > > appreicaite if you can take a chart as an example to explain your point. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:07 PM, msbohra62 <msbohra62@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Punit jee, > > > > > > In my view when somany planets signifying a house then we must look > > > for sub lord or sub-sub lord for final analysis that will give the > > > real picture. > > > > > > As Mr.Sing have 9 planets signifying 11 house but sub and sub- sub lord > > > are different.When a particular Dasa period running it will analyse by > > > sub theory and he will get the result as per sub lord or by sub-sub > > > lord.In traditional Astrology it will also analyse by other > > > divisions.In general by only Rahi-chart predication will be wrong. > > > > > > Kp system is best tool to analyse the chart as like Mr.Sing or some > > > common chart with same placing but results are very different as like > > > born child with difference of few minutes ,as twins . > > > > > > We must know the traditional astrology for right conclusion as like > > > " Bhavatm-Bhavam " theory.11th house is 8 from 4th house,6th from 6th > > > house it will give some negative result,12th from 12th house.So these > > > all give us some more help to analyse. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > > > > > > <% 40>, > Punit > > > Pandey <punitp@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > Recent posts in this thread, points towards a confusion in analysis > > > of the > > > > charts where we have all the planets (or many planets) signifying a > > > single > > > > house. Some of the quotes are - > > > > > > > > Raichur ji said, " you are the most fortunate man " > > > > Sujata ji said, " why Bhaskar never met with an accident/ illhelath " > > > > Sunil ji said " This would naturally mean that no matter what dasha > > > or bhukti > > > > the native is running, there will be improvement in his monetary > > > situation. " > > > > > > > > I believe that we are missing one very fundamental points in > birth chart > > > > analysis and that is the reason there seems some confusion. The > > > point that a > > > > *person will get what is promised in his chart. *Not everybody get > > > results > > > > of a house signified by a planets. For example, suppose I have all > > > planets > > > > signifying 12th house, I may get foreign travel but not > > > hospitalization or > > > > vice-versa in my lifetime. *As per KP, to figure out what is > > > promised for a > > > > house and what is not, we need to check the sub-lord of the cusp > of that > > > > house. *In above example, if 12th cuspal sub lord is signifying 1st > > > and 6th, > > > > one may get hospitalization. If 12th cuspal sub lord signifying 3rd, > > > 9th, > > > > 12th, he may get foreign travels etc. If 12th cuspal sublord > > > signifying 1st, > > > > 3rd, 6th, 9th, 12th etc. he may get both hospitalization and foreign > > > travel. > > > > It depends. We should also see the nature of the sub lord to get a > > > better > > > > idea. > > > > > > > > Let us take example of Mr. G. Singh's chart. He has all the nine > planets > > > > signifying 11th house. 11th house tells us about matters related to > > > " Profit > > > > or gain, income, all kinds of receipts, acquisition, gain, desire, > > > passion, > > > > fulfillment of one's desire, wealth or riches, brothers and sisters > > > - elder > > > > one, friends " Will he get all? In my opinion, he will get everything > > > that is > > > > promised in his chart. In his chart, 11th house sub lord is Moon > > > signifying > > > > 11, 10, 3, 8, and 5. 5th house is negating quite a few benefits > of 11th > > > > house e.g. gain from competition/ others etc. 10th house is also > > > negating > > > > some of the benefits of 11th house by being 12th to 11th house. 8th > > > house is > > > > not good generally for quite a few matters including income and > > > gains. It > > > > definately tells use that the things would not have come as easy to > > > his as > > > > it looks from the high level view of the chart. 5th house and > 8th house > > > > suggests that he is fortunate in relationships and love affairs, as > > > he told > > > > us. *So to reiterate my point again - one gets what is promised > in the > > > > chart. * > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:50 AM, hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > Let me give you my brief thoughts as I have very aggressive > > > > > schedule. > > > > > > > > > > Rahu in your chart is in 12th house and most of your planets are > > > > > connected with Rahu. But understand Rahu is in your Lagna lord > Sun's > > > > > sign. Sun the ruler of 1st house is in 10th house. Rahu in Leo is > > > > > stronger than sun to give 1st house and 10th house results. So > > > > > planets in rahu's nakshtra are giving you 10th house and 1st house > > > > > results more predominantly and your health is okay. Alot > depends on > > > > > the analysis of the house cusp lords, but it is fruitful only if > > > > > your birth time is very accurate. Also even if a planet is in 12th > > > > > house but if it is close to the 1st house cusp, it will end up > > > > > giving 1st house results instead of 12th house results. Now > you tell > > > > > me how accurate your birth time is as I don't have time for > your BTR. > > > > > > > > > > But be careful in Rahu / Mars period especially if Rahu is > > > > > transiting in Mars nakshatra at that time because these two > planets > > > > > can do big harm, and then you will remember me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > <%40><% > > > 40>, > > > > > > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Singhji, > > > > > > > > > > > > This is KP learnt and applied in bits, but not complete. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Can you answer why is it , that though I have all planets > > > > > signifying > > > > > > 6th and 12th house, due to their being placed in > Constellation of > > > > > Nodes, > > > > > > and the Nodes occupy 6/12 axis, yet why have I never been > admitted > > > > > in a > > > > > > hospital or face dany health problems of any worry? > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Rahu has actually done very good for me. I do not accept > it as a > > > > > > Badhak just because you think it is placed with the badhak ? Can > > > > > you > > > > > > explain the astrological reason for it being a Badhaka ? > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Does Jupiter does not signify any other houses ? > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Where are the roles of the sublords of other planets and > Cusps ? > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) You write that Sun, Mercury, Ketu, Mars, rahu, jupiter, Moon > > > > > are > > > > > > significators of 12th house. But dont they signify other houses > > > > > too ? > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) You write that " You should be careful when the > signicators of > > > > > 6th, > > > > > > 8th, 12th, and badhaka will act together in dasha, bhukti and > > > > > anthras. > > > > > > " This is not just for me, but for everybody living in this > world . > > > > > > > > > > > > 7) By the way, venus has given me the most pleasures in Life > > > > > during its > > > > > > dasha . > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you please explain me astrologically ( KP ) why none of your > > > > > points > > > > > > match with actual hapennings in my Life ? > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40><% > > > 40>, > > > > > > > > " hbk1hbk_2100 " <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. You have Moon, Mars, Rahu in the constellation of Ketu > in 6th > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Jupiter is the strong significator of 8th house as > there is no > > > > > > > planet in jupiter's nakshatra, and there is no occupant in > eighth > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Sun, Mercury, Ketu, Mars, rahu, jupiter, Moon are > > > > > significators of > > > > > > > 12th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. For Leo ascendant Mars is the badhaka planet as it > rules the > > > > > 9th > > > > > > > house. Rahu in conjunction with Mars will be a strong badhaka > > > > > planet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Most of your planets are in the subs of rahu. I did not > get into > > > > > > > further details as it will take too much of my time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You should be careful when the signicators of 6th, 8th, > 12th, and > > > > > > > badhaka will act together in dasha, bhukti and anthras. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu and Venus are very strong badhaka planets for you. > Venus is > > > > > > > occupant of 9th house and no planet in its constellation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You should be very careful when rahu, venus, will act with > > > > > > > significators of 8th house Jupiter and the 12th house > > > > > significators > > > > > > > mentioned above. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Strong significators: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 SAT, VENUS > > > > > > > 2. MERCURY > > > > > > > 3. VENUS > > > > > > > 4. JUPITER, MARS > > > > > > > 5. JUPITER, SAT > > > > > > > 6. MOON, MARS, RAHU, SAT, KETU > > > > > > > 7. SAT > > > > > > > 8. JUPITER > > > > > > > 9. VENUS, MARS > > > > > > > 10. VENUS, SAT, MERCURY, VENUS > > > > > > > 11. MERCURY > > > > > > > 12. SUN, MERCURY, KETU, MARS, JUPITER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40><% > > > 40>, > > > > > " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Singh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but > > > > > just 2 > > > > > > > > astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is > > > > > because > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > of the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. > But if > > > > > you > > > > > > > wish > > > > > > > > you may try. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( > near > > > > > > > > Vijaywada,Andhra). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every > > > > > where. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > <%40>, > > > > > " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you please provide me with your birth data. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > <%40> > > > <%40>, > > > > > > > > " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Singh ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But > never been > > > > > > > admitted > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas > > > > > Grace. > > > > > > > See > > > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one > particular > > > > > > > house ( > > > > > > > > > > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too, > > > > > > > therefore > > > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where > > > > > in such > > > > > > > > > cases > > > > > > > > > > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic > houses > > > > > > > figuring > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > the calculations respectively. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless its a pure case. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > <%40> > > > <%40>, > > > > > " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > <% 40><% > > > 40>, > > > > > > > > " Bhaskar " > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where > > > > > you have > > > > > > > > > > > found, all > > > > > > > > > > > > nine planets signifying one house . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens > > > > > maybe > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > > once in > > > > > > > > > > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th > Feb 1962 > > > > > > > with 7 > > > > > > > > > > > Planets > > > > > > > > > > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp > this may > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > happen, > > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > as per Traditional this signification may be > there in > > > > > such > > > > > > > rare > > > > > > > > > > > example. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to > produce, > > > > > and > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done > with such > > > > > rare > > > > > > > > > example > > > > > > > > > > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts > in KP > > > > > > > Readers, > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to > > > > > study > > > > > > > such > > > > > > > > > rare > > > > > > > > > > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > <% 40><% > > > 40>, > > > > > > > > " sudhagarceg " > > > > > > > <sudhagarceg@> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning > student. In > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > charts > > > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a > house.. > > > > > FOr > > > > > > > > > example > > > > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart > > > > > all > > > > > > > the 9 > > > > > > > > > > > planets > > > > > > > > > > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > > > > > > > > > > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get > accidents > > > > > in > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > periods? > > > > > > > > > > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get > luck and > > > > > > > comfort > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > all the periods? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem > > > > > > > > > effectively. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you sirs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Dear Pavanji, // Now regards to starLord of the ascendant who is Venus in my case as per recorded birth time. The StarLord Ketu gets its place only uptil 15.33 degrees in the sign Leo while Ascedant degrees as per recorded time 10.14 am comes to 15.52 degrees. This means that if I had born 1 minute 16 seconds before ( 19secs x 4 = 76 seconds) I would have got Ketu starLord for ascendant. In the LSRD, the Moon StarLord is more important in Order of preference after the Lagna Lord. In this case the RP's show Venus as the Moon starlord hence it is wiser to take Venus as the starLord for the ascendant. // Sorry the above was calculated for SubLord, while we are talking about StarLord. Please re-read above as - In fixed signs Aries, Leo, and Sagiitarius, Ketu will get its StarLord ownership till 13.20 degrees of these signs. In the sign Leo while Ascendant degrees as per my recorded birth time 10.14 am, comes to 15.52 degrees. This means that if I had born 2 degrees 32" earlier which means 10minutes 8 seconds before than my recorded time, then I would have got Ketu as My Ascendant starlord. This is not possible because my grandparents were very much particular about the Birth times etc. when I was born and there would be minimal mistake in recording of the birth time, and not by so much stretch. So the StarLord Venus remains for my Ascendant. Ultimately the Sub lord remains to be checked............for which I have chosen The Sun. In LSRD it stands as the first RP. Best wishes, Bhaskar. , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear Pavanji,> > I appreciate your hard work in attempting to confirm every step from the> Divine insights available to us in the form of the RP's and The Horary> Numbers etc.available to us.> > As I mentioned in my previous mails, we have to use the RP's judiciously> and avoid any wanton use. Thus we must attempt rectification or> confirmation only on the factors given to us by the native, or if not> given, then understood that there could be just few minutes difference> plus or minus in the given time.> > In my own case I have just mentioned that my Birth time is recorded, and> not ventured any suspicions about the time not being right, or displayed> any such fears, which implies that the rectification if necessary, would> only be minimal.> > Since my Lagna degrees is about 15 degrees, it is understood that this> needs no rectification . Now regards to starLord of the ascendant who is> Venus in my case as per recorded birth time. The StarLord Ketu gets its> place only uptil 15.33 degrees in the sign Leo while Ascedant degrees as> per recorded time 10.14 am comes to 15.52 degrees. This means that if I> had born 1 minute 16 seconds before ( 19secs x 4 = 76 seconds) I would> have got Ketu starLord for ascendant. In the LSRD, the Moon StarLord is> more important in Order of preference after the Lagna Lord. In this case> the RP's show Venus as the Moon starlord hence it is wiser to take Venus> as the starLord for the ascendant.> > Since according to me The Sun was not to be used for determining the> Lagna Lord, as there was no doubt aboput same, The Suin stays in the> RP's and is now utilsed to confirm the Sub lord.> > Yes Rahu does represent the Sun in the RP's but we normally do not> delete the Planets through which the Nodes appear in the RP's. We just> keep them aside in case we may need them. ( In any case Rahu is also> confirmed of its importance in this Chart, as it appears on the> ascendant )> > Thanks once again.> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > , vgr pavan vgr_pavan1@ wrote:> >> > bhaskarji pranam,> >> > when i read ur mail that your time is "recorded" i thought that "what> will be his exact lagna position ?" i noted the rp then only i opened> your chart and i found you are born in simha lagna.As venus is strong> ruling planet (even though kethu is lagna star lord powerful than ven> who is only moon star lord. But he ven repeated twice as moon sublord> too). i thought that your lagna star lord will be venus. (note if your> lagna is in kethu star i might judge it when moon is in kethu star> during day time.) .Now the question is about lagna sub lord. sun,> who is RP lagna lord was already used and he is in conjunction with jup,> he is also represented by rahu, kethu thats why i had a doubt to select> sun as your lagna sub lord. i opened the book to resolve my doubt and> found no.55. which is mer,rah,mars. mars is moon sign lord and aspecting> both RP moon and lagna. I thought that if he is born in sun sub i> could have get no.53 which is only one page before. Also> > as stated in book "rectifation of birthtime"> > to give preference to moon position especially when that horoscop is> first one of the day.> > i thought your langa sub may be mars.> >> > I may be wrong but above are my reasons,> >> > And pls mention a no.1-249. for my information.> >> > I really feel happy if learned members correct me if i am wrong .> >> > regards> >> > vgr.pavan> > --- On Tue, 3/2/09, adith kasinath.g.k gkadithkasinath@ wrote:> > adith kasinath.g.k gkadithkasinath@> > Re: Re: i> > > > Tuesday, 3 February, 2009, 4:07 PM> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear BHASKAR JI AND PAVAN JI> >> > Hope good analysis and appeal to the same.> >> > Before trying to do the BTR immediately , if we look into the any> possibilities of any connection between the star/sub lord of the Asc of> natal with the RPs at the time if judgement may help us if any BTR is> required at all.> >> >> > Its my humble thought.> > May be other memnbers analysis on this will take us into an one more> never ending thread.> >> > Lets wait for Ajai's analysis as Bhaskar ji has given a go ahead.> >> > Regards> > Adith> >> >> >> > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co.> in> wrote:> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear Pavan ji,> > A good effort on Your part.> > A small observation -> > At time of Your Judgement the RP's were as under -> > Ascendant lord - The Sun> > Moon starLord - Venus> > Moon raashi Lord - Mars> > Day Lord - Moon - (Kethu )> > Â> > Ascendant star lord - Kethu> > As per my recorded time of 10.14 am the equation stands as under -> > Leo ascendant - Raashi lord - Sun, StarLord Venus, SubLord - Sun.> > The RP's are used only for those factors on which we are doubtful in> the chart. Here the Lagna Lord is not doubtful in my natal Chart,> because Lagna is at 15 degrees so no question of Lagna changing .> Therefore what you are looking for confirmation , is the StarLord and> the Sub lord. Since we have not used any of the above RP's for> confirming the Lagna Lord, even the Sun stays in the RP's. My question> to you now, is why dont you allow the Sun from the RP's to be used as> the SubLord for the ascendant which in any case is The Sun, and confirms> it. Of course Venus confirms the StarLord as it is. Thus the timings> does not require any rectification unless one wishes to confirm the> SubSubLord and fine tune it.> >> > But in any case, what happened to the Sun amongst the RP's you have> used for rectification purposes ?> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > Â> >> > @gro ups.com, vgr pavan vgr_pavan1@ ..> wrote:> > >> > > PRANAM ALL,> > >> > > I analysed the horoscope of sri bhaskar on 02-02-2009 @19.38> hrs 16.14N, 80.35E> >> > >> > > Ruling Planets:> > >> > > Asc : sun kethu> > >> > > Moon : mar ven> > >> > > d.l  moon> > >> > >> > > Now bhaskarji`s Asc is in sun ven sun as per the recorded time. At> the time of judgement ascis occupied by sat both rahu and kethu> represnts him. so final r.p are sun, mars, ven, rah,kethu.as> mars is moon sign lord and aspecting it from the star of sun another r.p> i think he is strong. mars wil be Asc sub lord and rahu s-s lord. (i> left kethu because he rules his brth star.) for confirmation i opened> k.p 2 reader which give 55 on the right side page.> >> > > (asking the query who rules his asc sub) 55 falls in mer,rah,mars.> > >> > > HIS BRTH TIME COMES TO 10.21 AM.> > >> > > NOW ASC csl Mars is in kethu star and sub of rahu. kethu in 6th and> rahu is in 12th with mars in kethu star. So asc csl is clearly> signifying 6,12. But please note that 6,8,12 csl is mercury l/o 2,11 in> 10 (no planet in mer stars ) in the star of rahu and sub of sat(no> planets in sat stars). rahu in 12 sat in 5 in sun star l/o asc in 10. So> mer is signifying 2,10,11,12 at star level and 1,5,7,10 at sub level. So> 6,8,and 12th cusps are promising favourable results.> >> > > Sun,mer (l/o1,l/o11) are in sextile with asc promising good health> and fast recovery.> > >> > > As 6th csl is mercury in a dual sign good at sub level he does not> having any major health> > > problems.mercury wil give fast recovery from all minor health> problems.> >> > >> > > Bhaskarji this is my analysis i may be wrong . if u can give> some of your past events to tally your BT it will be good.> > >> > > learned members, correct me if i am wrong.> >> > >> > > regards.> > >> > > vgr> > >> > > ÂÂ> > >> > > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, sujata das sujatadash1@ ... wrote:> > > sujata das sujatadash1@ ...> >> > > Re: Re: i> > > @gro ups.com> > > Monday, 2 February, 2009, 6:48 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Mr Raichur> > > Kindly clarify as to why Bhsker never met with an accident/> illhealth.> > > Regards> > > sujata> > >> > > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Raichur-a-r raichurar > wrote:> >> > > Raichur-a-r raichurar >> > > Re: Re: i> > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@> .co. in>> >> > > Monday, 2 February, 2009, 2:36 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > dear members> > > find the horoscope redrawn as per kpsw of mine. It is zipped for> transmission> >> > >> > >> > > raichur anant> > >> > > --- On Sun, 1/2/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:> > >> > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> >> > > Re: i> > > @gro ups.com> > > Sunday, 1 February, 2009, 7:32 PM> > >> > > Dear Singh,> > >> > > I have not many who could read my Horoscope correctly, but just 2> >> > > astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. This is because> most> > > of the planets are in the constellations of the Nodes. But if you> wish> > > you may try.> > >> > > 28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E Eluru ( near> >> > > Vijaywada,Andhra) .> > >> > > You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost every where.> > >> > > regards/Bhaskar. .> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > @gro ups.com, "hbk1hbk_2100"> >> > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Hello Bhaskar,> > > >> > > > Could you please provide me with your birth data.> > > >> > > > Regards> > > >> > > > G. Singh> >> > > >> > > > --- In> > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Singh ji,> >> > > > >> > > > > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But never been> admitted> > > > to> > > > > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri Krishnas Grace.> See> > > > these> >> > > > > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one particular> house (> > > > > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other planets too,> therefore> > > > one> > > > > need not get panicky or too elated either in cases where in such> >> > > > cases> > > > > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or Benefic houses> figuring> > > > in> > > > > the calculations respectively.> > > > >> > > > > Unless its a pure case.> >> > > > >> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > @gro ups.com,> >> > > "hbk1hbk_2100"> > > <hbk1hbk_2100@>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house.> > > > > >> > > > > > G. Singh> >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar"> > > bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > wrote:> >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those charts where you> > > have> > > > > > found, all> > > > > > > nine planets signifying one house .> >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and happens maybe> > > just> > > > > > once in> > > > > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on 5th Feb 1962> >> > > with 7> > > > > > Planets> > > > > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp this may not> > > > happen,> > > > > > but> > > > > > > as per> > > Traditional this signification may be there in such> >> > > rare> > > > > > example.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to produce, and> > > even> > > > if> > > > > > you> > > > > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done with such rare> >> > > > example> > > > > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated charts in KP> > > Readers,> > > > and> > > > > > other> > > > > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the need to study> >> > > such> > > > rare> > > > > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively" .> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "sudhagarceg"> > > <sudhagarceg@>> > > > > > > wrote:> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Sirs,> > > >> > > > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning student. In> > > some> > > > charts> > > > > > i> >> > > > > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a house...> > > FOr> > > > example> > > > > > all> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in another chart all> >> > > the 9> > > > > > planets> > > > > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean?> > > > > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get> > > accidents in all> >> > > > the> > > > > > > > periods?> > > > > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get luck> > > and comfort> > > > in> > > > > > > > all the periods?> >> > > > > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn kp syetem> > > > effectively.> > > > > > > > Thank you sirs.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 Dear Mr.Singh, I have feed your data in my software " Horoscope " in which i find 11th cusp star lord is Sun, again i have checked the same in my Parashar light 2000 it also shows the same than i use JHora which shows Moon. The basic fundamental is if 6th,8th and 12th house involve than the financial problems arise.You Sun,Moon,Mars,Venus and Saturn significant one of above cusp.Your Saturn is strong significant for 11th house not 12th,12th significant is weak. You said your opponent are in loses but i will say they are benefited by you,they are getting through you,it may be Business partner or love partner.5th and 8th are more active so they get financial benefit by you.You are unmarried and i can predict you will get your life partner last quarter of this year or next year,so money will be in the house after that. Rahu is most Yogkarka as per traditional system so Rahu have given the god rise and some sudden benefit(Money wise).Saturn and Mercury period give you some hard time,Jupiter Dasa will be good.You are getting the result of 11th house but not satisfactory or like that you can enjoy for rest of the life,you have to earn by your own efforts,star will be give you full support. It is my conclusion rest you know very well. Thanks, M.S.Bohra , " hbk1hbk_2100 " <hbk1hbk_2100 wrote: > > Dear Mr. Bohra, > > My 11th house cusp lord is moon, not sun as mentioned in your > message. Moon is in the nakshatra of an occupant of 11th house that > is Venus. I have gone through very good period in my life whenever I > had gone through Venus and Moon's periods together. You can say > Moon/Venus period, Rahu/Moon/Venus, Mars/Moon/Venus, > Mars/Venus/Moon, Rahu/Venus/Moon period were very good periods for > money,love, happiness and travel, you can't imagine. I had > relationships with very good looking women during these periods, > that happens only in movies. > > Just see both Venus and Moon are significators of 5th and 8th house > in my case in addition to 11th and 10th house. The astrology books > say that 5th and 8th house connection is bad. But understand that > Moon is in the nakshatra of 11th house occupant Venus, and Venus is > in the nakshatra of 10th house occupant Moon. So they still gave me > excellent results. As Venus and Moon represent 5th and 8th house > significators which becomes 11th and 2nd house to the 7th house. But > they are connected to my 10th and 11th house which are unfavorable > houses 4th and 5th of my opponents. So bad for the opponents and > good for me. Venus and Moon are cusp house lords of so many houses > in my chart. That makes 3rd house and 11th house very prominent. So > I am in contracting business and I travel by air every week. > > The only planet that bothered me was Saturn. It rules 11th and 12th > house. Although Saturn is placed in Moon's nakshatra and sub and > moon is in 10th house, and saturn is in 11th house with all other > planets and it negates the evil results of 12th house. But still > Saturn is a strong significator of 12th house as well. Because there > is no planet in 12th house, and there is no planet in the nakshatra > of 12th lord Saturn. That makes saturn a very strong sigificator of > 12th house as well. During Jupiter/Saturn period it gave me lot of > money but it gave me big expenses as well at same time. > > In your message, you are right about Jupiter, Mercury, and Ketu. I > would say Ketu is the strongest planet in my chart because it is in > conjunction with all 7 planets. So Jupiter/Mercury and Jupiter/Ketu > would be interesting periods in my life. > > > Regards > > G. Singh , " msbohra62 " <msbohra62@> wrote: > > > > Dear Punit ji, > > > > I am new in KP system,I will explain what I have learn to read the > > messages of the forum. > > > > When a such situation happened as like Mr.Singh's chart,in my view > > firstly we should see the Cusp,here 11th house. > > > > " " The nature / type of event for each house depends on the Lords of > > star, sub & sign on the cusp. > > Planet is a source of event having a star, sub & sign lords. A sub- > sub > > is considered at times to improve the precision. " " > > > > > > Cusp Controllers : The Cusp controllers are the Sign-Star-Sub, of > > these the Star-Lord is important as it defines the event for that > Cusp > > / House. The Sub-Lord has the power to negate the effects proposed > by > > the same house and has the final authority. In such a scenario if a > > planet is occupying the house under consideration it may occupy > any of > > the stars in the span of that house and it will also be in a > specific > > Sub, the effects of such a planet then should be finally under the > > control of the cusp Star-Lord and Sub-Lord and if they support then > > the occupying planet can perform to its optimum potential > > > > Mr.Singh have seven planets in 11th house and 9 planets signifying > > 11th house so Cusp controls the effects of all planets. > > > > Here 11th Cusp SUN(SL),Ketu(Sub Lord) and Rahu(SSL).Sun is signify > > 6,11 so gain through 6th house(by Loan).Sub lord is Ketu is in > 11th so > > he will be benefited by loans,Rahu is in 5th(Love,Education,Child > and > > poorv Karma).So 11th Cups associated with 5th,6th and 11th > houses.Gain > > through friends,love affair or partnership,by quarrel,court cases > and > > by loans.All indicate that he is always have debt in his account. > (11th > > is 6th to 6th house). > > > > In KP each planet has a Sub-Lord whose effects are most prominently > > seen in predictions. If in one Nakshatra 2 planets are present and > if > > the Sub-Lords are different for each then different results are > > experienced > > > > Here,Jupiter,Mercury and Ketu are in Mars star and sub of Rahu but > > sun-sub are Sun,Saturn and Saturn respectively.Again sub-sub of > > Mercury and Ketu are same than we look SSSL for each result. > > > > 2nd.9th and 11th house result will be give by Jupiter,Mercury and > Ketu > > because they all are in Dhanishta the star of Mars.The result will > be > > same for these three Planets Dasa period? No! > > > > " " A transiting planet is a variable, next is the Sign-Lord > followed by > > Star-Lord. This transiting planet will now occupy one of the 9 > > Sub-parts in the Star, this sub-part is ruled by one of the 9 > planets > > hence the term Sub-Lord was introduced followed by the Sub-Sub- > Lord. > > The planet transiting a house is now a source of an event, Star- > Lord, > > Sub-Lord, Sub-Sub-Lord and the Sign-Lord will decide the course of > > events indicated by the House. " " > > > > So in all these scenario Mr.Sing is not gaining or benefice by all > > means because all the 9 planets signifying the 11th house.If we > > consider " Vimshottari Dasha " for final result,which will decide > the > > good or bad effects of period,we can analyse the real picture. > > > > It is little which i have learned,if some were I am wrong than > please > > correct me. > > > > Thanks, > > > > M.S.Bohra > > 5.2.2009 > > > > > > > > > > > > , Punit Pandey <punitp@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bohra ji, > > > > > > Can you please take G. Singh ji's chart as an example and explain > > what you > > > mean by using sub and sub-sub in such situation? Also when we > should > > use sub > > > and sub-sub? Only when we have many planets in one house or > always? > > Would > > > appreicaite if you can take a chart as an example to explain > your point. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:07 PM, msbohra62 <msbohra62@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Punit jee, > > > > > > > > In my view when somany planets signifying a house then we must > look > > > > for sub lord or sub-sub lord for final analysis that will give > the > > > > real picture. > > > > > > > > As Mr.Sing have 9 planets signifying 11 house but sub and sub- > sub lord > > > > are different.When a particular Dasa period running it will > analyse by > > > > sub theory and he will get the result as per sub lord or by > sub-sub > > > > lord.In traditional Astrology it will also analyse by other > > > > divisions.In general by only Rahi-chart predication will be > wrong. > > > > > > > > Kp system is best tool to analyse the chart as like Mr.Sing or > some > > > > common chart with same placing but results are very different > as like > > > > born child with difference of few minutes ,as twins . > > > > > > > > We must know the traditional astrology for right conclusion as > like > > > > " Bhavatm-Bhavam " theory.11th house is 8 from 4th house,6th > from 6th > > > > house it will give some negative result,12th from 12th > house.So these > > > > all give us some more help to analyse. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > > > > > > > > > <% > 40>, > > Punit > > > > Pandey <punitp@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > Recent posts in this thread, points towards a confusion in > analysis > > > > of the > > > > > charts where we have all the planets (or many planets) > signifying a > > > > single > > > > > house. Some of the quotes are - > > > > > > > > > > Raichur ji said, " you are the most fortunate man " > > > > > Sujata ji said, " why Bhaskar never met with an accident/ > illhelath " > > > > > Sunil ji said " This would naturally mean that no matter what > dasha > > > > or bhukti > > > > > the native is running, there will be improvement in his > monetary > > > > situation. " > > > > > > > > > > I believe that we are missing one very fundamental points in > > birth chart > > > > > analysis and that is the reason there seems some confusion. > The > > > > point that a > > > > > *person will get what is promised in his chart. *Not > everybody get > > > > results > > > > > of a house signified by a planets. For example, suppose I > have all > > > > planets > > > > > signifying 12th house, I may get foreign travel but not > > > > hospitalization or > > > > > vice-versa in my lifetime. *As per KP, to figure out what is > > > > promised for a > > > > > house and what is not, we need to check the sub-lord of the > cusp > > of that > > > > > house. *In above example, if 12th cuspal sub lord is > signifying 1st > > > > and 6th, > > > > > one may get hospitalization. If 12th cuspal sub lord > signifying 3rd, > > > > 9th, > > > > > 12th, he may get foreign travels etc. If 12th cuspal sublord > > > > signifying 1st, > > > > > 3rd, 6th, 9th, 12th etc. he may get both hospitalization and > foreign > > > > travel. > > > > > It depends. We should also see the nature of the sub lord to > get a > > > > better > > > > > idea. > > > > > > > > > > Let us take example of Mr. G. Singh's chart. He has all the > nine > > planets > > > > > signifying 11th house. 11th house tells us about matters > related to > > > > " Profit > > > > > or gain, income, all kinds of receipts, acquisition, gain, > desire, > > > > passion, > > > > > fulfillment of one's desire, wealth or riches, brothers and > sisters > > > > - elder > > > > > one, friends " Will he get all? In my opinion, he will get > everything > > > > that is > > > > > promised in his chart. In his chart, 11th house sub lord is > Moon > > > > signifying > > > > > 11, 10, 3, 8, and 5. 5th house is negating quite a few > benefits > > of 11th > > > > > house e.g. gain from competition/ others etc. 10th house is > also > > > > negating > > > > > some of the benefits of 11th house by being 12th to 11th > house. 8th > > > > house is > > > > > not good generally for quite a few matters including income > and > > > > gains. It > > > > > definately tells use that the things would not have come as > easy to > > > > his as > > > > > it looks from the high level view of the chart. 5th house and > > 8th house > > > > > suggests that he is fortunate in relationships and love > affairs, as > > > > he told > > > > > us. *So to reiterate my point again - one gets what is > promised > > in the > > > > > chart. * > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:50 AM, hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me give you my brief thoughts as I have very aggressive > > > > > > schedule. > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu in your chart is in 12th house and most of your > planets are > > > > > > connected with Rahu. But understand Rahu is in your Lagna > lord > > Sun's > > > > > > sign. Sun the ruler of 1st house is in 10th house. Rahu in > Leo is > > > > > > stronger than sun to give 1st house and 10th house > results. So > > > > > > planets in rahu's nakshtra are giving you 10th house and > 1st house > > > > > > results more predominantly and your health is okay. Alot > > depends on > > > > > > the analysis of the house cusp lords, but it is fruitful > only if > > > > > > your birth time is very accurate. Also even if a planet is > in 12th > > > > > > house but if it is close to the 1st house cusp, it will > end up > > > > > > giving 1st house results instead of 12th house results. Now > > you tell > > > > > > me how accurate your birth time is as I don't have time for > > your BTR. > > > > > > > > > > > > But be careful in Rahu / Mars period especially if Rahu is > > > > > > transiting in Mars nakshatra at that time because these two > > planets > > > > > > can do big harm, and then you will remember me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40><% > > > > 40>, > > > > > > > > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Singhji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is KP learnt and applied in bits, but not complete. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Can you answer why is it , that though I have all > planets > > > > > > signifying > > > > > > > 6th and 12th house, due to their being placed in > > Constellation of > > > > > > Nodes, > > > > > > > and the Nodes occupy 6/12 axis, yet why have I never been > > admitted > > > > > > in a > > > > > > > hospital or face dany health problems of any worry? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Rahu has actually done very good for me. I do not > accept > > it as a > > > > > > > Badhak just because you think it is placed with the > badhak ? Can > > > > > > you > > > > > > > explain the astrological reason for it being a Badhaka ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Does Jupiter does not signify any other houses ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Where are the roles of the sublords of other planets > and > > Cusps ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) You write that Sun, Mercury, Ketu, Mars, rahu, > jupiter, Moon > > > > > > are > > > > > > > significators of 12th house. But dont they signify other > houses > > > > > > too ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) You write that " You should be careful when the > > signicators of > > > > > > 6th, > > > > > > > 8th, 12th, and badhaka will act together in dasha, > bhukti and > > > > > > anthras. > > > > > > > " This is not just for me, but for everybody living in > this > > world . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7) By the way, venus has given me the most pleasures in > Life > > > > > > during its > > > > > > > dasha . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you please explain me astrologically ( KP ) why none > of your > > > > > > points > > > > > > > match with actual hapennings in my Life ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40><% > > > > 40>, > > > > > > > > > > " hbk1hbk_2100 " <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. You have Moon, Mars, Rahu in the constellation of > Ketu > > in 6th > > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Jupiter is the strong significator of 8th house as > > there is no > > > > > > > > planet in jupiter's nakshatra, and there is no > occupant in > > eighth > > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Sun, Mercury, Ketu, Mars, rahu, jupiter, Moon are > > > > > > significators of > > > > > > > > 12th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. For Leo ascendant Mars is the badhaka planet as it > > rules the > > > > > > 9th > > > > > > > > house. Rahu in conjunction with Mars will be a strong > badhaka > > > > > > planet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Most of your planets are in the subs of rahu. I did not > > get into > > > > > > > > further details as it will take too much of my time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You should be careful when the signicators of 6th, 8th, > > 12th, and > > > > > > > > badhaka will act together in dasha, bhukti and anthras. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu and Venus are very strong badhaka planets for you. > > Venus is > > > > > > > > occupant of 9th house and no planet in its > constellation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You should be very careful when rahu, venus, will act > with > > > > > > > > significators of 8th house Jupiter and the 12th house > > > > > > significators > > > > > > > > mentioned above. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Strong significators: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 SAT, VENUS > > > > > > > > 2. MERCURY > > > > > > > > 3. VENUS > > > > > > > > 4. JUPITER, MARS > > > > > > > > 5. JUPITER, SAT > > > > > > > > 6. MOON, MARS, RAHU, SAT, KETU > > > > > > > > 7. SAT > > > > > > > > 8. JUPITER > > > > > > > > 9. VENUS, MARS > > > > > > > > 10. VENUS, SAT, MERCURY, VENUS > > > > > > > > 11. MERCURY > > > > > > > > 12. SUN, MERCURY, KETU, MARS, JUPITER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40><% > > > > 40>, > > > > > > " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Singh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not many who could read my Horoscope > correctly, but > > > > > > just 2 > > > > > > > > > astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. > This is > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > of the planets are in the constellations of the > Nodes. > > But if > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > wish > > > > > > > > > you may try. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E > Eluru ( > > near > > > > > > > > > Vijaywada,Andhra). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost > every > > > > > > where. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > <%40>, > > > > > > " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you please provide me with your birth data. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > <%40> > > > > <%40>, > > > > > > > > > > " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Singh ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But > > never been > > > > > > > > admitted > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri > Krishnas > > > > > > Grace. > > > > > > > > See > > > > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > > > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one > > particular > > > > > > > > house ( > > > > > > > > > > > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other > planets too, > > > > > > > > therefore > > > > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > > need not get panicky or too elated either in > cases where > > > > > > in such > > > > > > > > > > cases > > > > > > > > > > > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or > Benefic > > houses > > > > > > > > figuring > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > the calculations respectively. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless its a pure case. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > <%40> > > > > <%40>, > > > > > > " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > <% > 40><% > > > > 40>, > > > > > > > > > > " Bhaskar " > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those > charts where > > > > > > you have > > > > > > > > > > > > found, all > > > > > > > > > > > > > nine planets signifying one house . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and > happens > > > > > > maybe > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > > > once in > > > > > > > > > > > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on > 5th > > Feb 1962 > > > > > > > > with 7 > > > > > > > > > > > > Planets > > > > > > > > > > > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp > > this may > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > happen, > > > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > > as per Traditional this signification may be > > there in > > > > > > such > > > > > > > > rare > > > > > > > > > > > > example. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to > > produce, > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done > > with such > > > > > > rare > > > > > > > > > > example > > > > > > > > > > > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated > charts > > in KP > > > > > > > > Readers, > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the > need to > > > > > > study > > > > > > > > such > > > > > > > > > > rare > > > > > > > > > > > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > <% > 40><% > > > > 40>, > > > > > > > > > > " sudhagarceg " > > > > > > > > <sudhagarceg@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning > > student. In > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > charts > > > > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a > > house.. > > > > > > FOr > > > > > > > > > > example > > > > > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in > another chart > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > the 9 > > > > > > > > > > > > planets > > > > > > > > > > > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get > > accidents > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > periods? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get > > luck and > > > > > > > > comfort > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all the periods? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn > kp syetem > > > > > > > > > > effectively. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you sirs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 Dear Mr Bohra, I have tried my chart with many different softwares. Even when Mr Lajmi prepared my chart using his software, moon was the sub lord of the 11th house and sun is the sub lord of 10th house. There could be slight error in the prashara software. I never had financial problems through out my life. But I experienced 11th house creates dissatisfaction. Even when you achieve something big in life, you are still not happy. You have very high ambitions. Thanks G. Singh , " msbohra62 " <msbohra62 wrote: > Dear Mr.Singh, > > I have feed your data in my software " Horoscope " in which i find 11th > cusp star lord is Sun, again i have checked the same in my Parashar > light 2000 it also shows the same than i use JHora which shows Moon. > > The basic fundamental is if 6th,8th and 12th house involve than the > financial problems arise.You Sun,Moon,Mars,Venus and Saturn > significant one of above cusp.Your Saturn is strong significant for > 11th house not 12th,12th significant is weak. > > You said your opponent are in loses but i will say they are benefited > by you,they are getting through you,it may be Business partner or love > partner.5th and 8th are more active so they get financial benefit by > you.You are unmarried and i can predict you will get your life partner > last quarter of this year or next year,so money will be in the house > after that. > > Rahu is most Yogkarka as per traditional system so Rahu have given the > god rise and some sudden benefit(Money wise).Saturn and Mercury period > give you some hard time,Jupiter Dasa will be good.You are getting the > result of 11th house but not satisfactory or like that you can enjoy > for rest of the life,you have to earn by your own efforts,star will be > give you full support. > > It is my conclusion rest you know very well. > > Thanks, > > M.S.Bohra > > > > , " hbk1hbk_2100 " <hbk1hbk_2100@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. Bohra, > > > > My 11th house cusp lord is moon, not sun as mentioned in your > > message. Moon is in the nakshatra of an occupant of 11th house that > > is Venus. I have gone through very good period in my life whenever I > > had gone through Venus and Moon's periods together. You can say > > Moon/Venus period, Rahu/Moon/Venus, Mars/Moon/Venus, > > Mars/Venus/Moon, Rahu/Venus/Moon period were very good periods for > > money,love, happiness and travel, you can't imagine. I had > > relationships with very good looking women during these periods, > > that happens only in movies. > > > > Just see both Venus and Moon are significators of 5th and 8th house > > in my case in addition to 11th and 10th house. The astrology books > > say that 5th and 8th house connection is bad. But understand that > > Moon is in the nakshatra of 11th house occupant Venus, and Venus is > > in the nakshatra of 10th house occupant Moon. So they still gave me > > excellent results. As Venus and Moon represent 5th and 8th house > > significators which becomes 11th and 2nd house to the 7th house. But > > they are connected to my 10th and 11th house which are unfavorable > > houses 4th and 5th of my opponents. So bad for the opponents and > > good for me. Venus and Moon are cusp house lords of so many houses > > in my chart. That makes 3rd house and 11th house very prominent. So > > I am in contracting business and I travel by air every week. > > > > The only planet that bothered me was Saturn. It rules 11th and 12th > > house. Although Saturn is placed in Moon's nakshatra and sub and > > moon is in 10th house, and saturn is in 11th house with all other > > planets and it negates the evil results of 12th house. But still > > Saturn is a strong significator of 12th house as well. Because there > > is no planet in 12th house, and there is no planet in the nakshatra > > of 12th lord Saturn. That makes saturn a very strong sigificator of > > 12th house as well. During Jupiter/Saturn period it gave me lot of > > money but it gave me big expenses as well at same time. > > > > In your message, you are right about Jupiter, Mercury, and Ketu. I > > would say Ketu is the strongest planet in my chart because it is in > > conjunction with all 7 planets. So Jupiter/Mercury and Jupiter/Ketu > > would be interesting periods in my life. > > > > > > Regards > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " msbohra62 " <msbohra62@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Punit ji, > > > > > > I am new in KP system,I will explain what I have learn to read the > > > messages of the forum. > > > > > > When a such situation happened as like Mr.Singh's chart,in my view > > > firstly we should see the Cusp,here 11th house. > > > > > > " " The nature / type of event for each house depends on the Lords of > > > star, sub & sign on the cusp. > > > Planet is a source of event having a star, sub & sign lords. A sub- > > sub > > > is considered at times to improve the precision. " " > > > > > > > > > Cusp Controllers : The Cusp controllers are the Sign-Star-Sub, of > > > these the Star-Lord is important as it defines the event for that > > Cusp > > > / House. The Sub-Lord has the power to negate the effects proposed > > by > > > the same house and has the final authority. In such a scenario if a > > > planet is occupying the house under consideration it may occupy > > any of > > > the stars in the span of that house and it will also be in a > > specific > > > Sub, the effects of such a planet then should be finally under the > > > control of the cusp Star-Lord and Sub-Lord and if they support then > > > the occupying planet can perform to its optimum potential > > > > > > Mr.Singh have seven planets in 11th house and 9 planets signifying > > > 11th house so Cusp controls the effects of all planets. > > > > > > Here 11th Cusp SUN(SL),Ketu(Sub Lord) and Rahu(SSL).Sun is signify > > > 6,11 so gain through 6th house(by Loan).Sub lord is Ketu is in > > 11th so > > > he will be benefited by loans,Rahu is in 5th (Love,Education,Child > > and > > > poorv Karma).So 11th Cups associated with 5th,6th and 11th > > houses.Gain > > > through friends,love affair or partnership,by quarrel,court cases > > and > > > by loans.All indicate that he is always have debt in his account. > > (11th > > > is 6th to 6th house). > > > > > > In KP each planet has a Sub-Lord whose effects are most prominently > > > seen in predictions. If in one Nakshatra 2 planets are present and > > if > > > the Sub-Lords are different for each then different results are > > > experienced > > > > > > Here,Jupiter,Mercury and Ketu are in Mars star and sub of Rahu but > > > sun-sub are Sun,Saturn and Saturn respectively.Again sub-sub of > > > Mercury and Ketu are same than we look SSSL for each result. > > > > > > 2nd.9th and 11th house result will be give by Jupiter,Mercury and > > Ketu > > > because they all are in Dhanishta the star of Mars.The result will > > be > > > same for these three Planets Dasa period? No! > > > > > > " " A transiting planet is a variable, next is the Sign-Lord > > followed by > > > Star-Lord. This transiting planet will now occupy one of the 9 > > > Sub-parts in the Star, this sub-part is ruled by one of the 9 > > planets > > > hence the term Sub-Lord was introduced followed by the Sub-Sub- > > Lord. > > > The planet transiting a house is now a source of an event, Star- > > Lord, > > > Sub-Lord, Sub-Sub-Lord and the Sign-Lord will decide the course of > > > events indicated by the House. " " > > > > > > So in all these scenario Mr.Sing is not gaining or benefice by all > > > means because all the 9 planets signifying the 11th house.If we > > > consider " Vimshottari Dasha " for final result,which will decide > > the > > > good or bad effects of period,we can analyse the real picture. > > > > > > It is little which i have learned,if some were I am wrong than > > please > > > correct me. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > 5.2.2009 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Punit Pandey <punitp@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bohra ji, > > > > > > > > Can you please take G. Singh ji's chart as an example and explain > > > what you > > > > mean by using sub and sub-sub in such situation? Also when we > > should > > > use sub > > > > and sub-sub? Only when we have many planets in one house or > > always? > > > Would > > > > appreicaite if you can take a chart as an example to explain > > your point. > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:07 PM, msbohra62 <msbohra62@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Punit jee, > > > > > > > > > > In my view when somany planets signifying a house then we must > > look > > > > > for sub lord or sub-sub lord for final analysis that will give > > the > > > > > real picture. > > > > > > > > > > As Mr.Sing have 9 planets signifying 11 house but sub and sub- > > sub lord > > > > > are different.When a particular Dasa period running it will > > analyse by > > > > > sub theory and he will get the result as per sub lord or by > > sub-sub > > > > > lord.In traditional Astrology it will also analyse by other > > > > > divisions.In general by only Rahi-chart predication will be > > wrong. > > > > > > > > > > Kp system is best tool to analyse the chart as like Mr.Sing or > > some > > > > > common chart with same placing but results are very different > > as like > > > > > born child with difference of few minutes ,as twins . > > > > > > > > > > We must know the traditional astrology for right conclusion as > > like > > > > > " Bhavatm-Bhavam " theory.11th house is 8 from 4th house,6th > > from 6th > > > > > house it will give some negative result,12th from 12th > > house.So these > > > > > all give us some more help to analyse. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% > > 40>, > > > Punit > > > > > Pandey <punitp@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > Recent posts in this thread, points towards a confusion in > > analysis > > > > > of the > > > > > > charts where we have all the planets (or many planets) > > signifying a > > > > > single > > > > > > house. Some of the quotes are - > > > > > > > > > > > > Raichur ji said, " you are the most fortunate man " > > > > > > Sujata ji said, " why Bhaskar never met with an accident/ > > illhelath " > > > > > > Sunil ji said " This would naturally mean that no matter what > > dasha > > > > > or bhukti > > > > > > the native is running, there will be improvement in his > > monetary > > > > > situation. " > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe that we are missing one very fundamental points in > > > birth chart > > > > > > analysis and that is the reason there seems some confusion. > > The > > > > > point that a > > > > > > *person will get what is promised in his chart. *Not > > everybody get > > > > > results > > > > > > of a house signified by a planets. For example, suppose I > > have all > > > > > planets > > > > > > signifying 12th house, I may get foreign travel but not > > > > > hospitalization or > > > > > > vice-versa in my lifetime. *As per KP, to figure out what is > > > > > promised for a > > > > > > house and what is not, we need to check the sub-lord of the > > cusp > > > of that > > > > > > house. *In above example, if 12th cuspal sub lord is > > signifying 1st > > > > > and 6th, > > > > > > one may get hospitalization. If 12th cuspal sub lord > > signifying 3rd, > > > > > 9th, > > > > > > 12th, he may get foreign travels etc. If 12th cuspal sublord > > > > > signifying 1st, > > > > > > 3rd, 6th, 9th, 12th etc. he may get both hospitalization and > > foreign > > > > > travel. > > > > > > It depends. We should also see the nature of the sub lord to > > get a > > > > > better > > > > > > idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us take example of Mr. G. Singh's chart. He has all the > > nine > > > planets > > > > > > signifying 11th house. 11th house tells us about matters > > related to > > > > > " Profit > > > > > > or gain, income, all kinds of receipts, acquisition, gain, > > desire, > > > > > passion, > > > > > > fulfillment of one's desire, wealth or riches, brothers and > > sisters > > > > > - elder > > > > > > one, friends " Will he get all? In my opinion, he will get > > everything > > > > > that is > > > > > > promised in his chart. In his chart, 11th house sub lord is > > Moon > > > > > signifying > > > > > > 11, 10, 3, 8, and 5. 5th house is negating quite a few > > benefits > > > of 11th > > > > > > house e.g. gain from competition/ others etc. 10th house is > > also > > > > > negating > > > > > > some of the benefits of 11th house by being 12th to 11th > > house. 8th > > > > > house is > > > > > > not good generally for quite a few matters including income > > and > > > > > gains. It > > > > > > definately tells use that the things would not have come as > > easy to > > > > > his as > > > > > > it looks from the high level view of the chart. 5th house and > > > 8th house > > > > > > suggests that he is fortunate in relationships and love > > affairs, as > > > > > he told > > > > > > us. *So to reiterate my point again - one gets what is > > promised > > > in the > > > > > > chart. * > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:50 AM, hbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me give you my brief thoughts as I have very aggressive > > > > > > > schedule. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu in your chart is in 12th house and most of your > > planets are > > > > > > > connected with Rahu. But understand Rahu is in your Lagna > > lord > > > Sun's > > > > > > > sign. Sun the ruler of 1st house is in 10th house. Rahu in > > Leo is > > > > > > > stronger than sun to give 1st house and 10th house > > results. So > > > > > > > planets in rahu's nakshtra are giving you 10th house and > > 1st house > > > > > > > results more predominantly and your health is okay. Alot > > > depends on > > > > > > > the analysis of the house cusp lords, but it is fruitful > > only if > > > > > > > your birth time is very accurate. Also even if a planet is > > in 12th > > > > > > > house but if it is close to the 1st house cusp, it will > > end up > > > > > > > giving 1st house results instead of 12th house results. Now > > > you tell > > > > > > > me how accurate your birth time is as I don't have time for > > > your BTR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But be careful in Rahu / Mars period especially if Rahu is > > > > > > > transiting in Mars nakshatra at that time because these two > > > planets > > > > > > > can do big harm, and then you will remember me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40><% > > > > > 40>, > > > > > > > > > > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Singhji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is KP learnt and applied in bits, but not complete. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Can you answer why is it , that though I have all > > planets > > > > > > > signifying > > > > > > > > 6th and 12th house, due to their being placed in > > > Constellation of > > > > > > > Nodes, > > > > > > > > and the Nodes occupy 6/12 axis, yet why have I never been > > > admitted > > > > > > > in a > > > > > > > > hospital or face dany health problems of any worry? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Rahu has actually done very good for me. I do not > > accept > > > it as a > > > > > > > > Badhak just because you think it is placed with the > > badhak ? Can > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > explain the astrological reason for it being a Badhaka ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Does Jupiter does not signify any other houses ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Where are the roles of the sublords of other planets > > and > > > Cusps ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) You write that Sun, Mercury, Ketu, Mars, rahu, > > jupiter, Moon > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > significators of 12th house. But dont they signify other > > houses > > > > > > > too ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) You write that " You should be careful when the > > > signicators of > > > > > > > 6th, > > > > > > > > 8th, 12th, and badhaka will act together in dasha, > > bhukti and > > > > > > > anthras. > > > > > > > > " This is not just for me, but for everybody living in > > this > > > world . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7) By the way, venus has given me the most pleasures in > > Life > > > > > > > during its > > > > > > > > dasha . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you please explain me astrologically ( KP ) why none > > of your > > > > > > > points > > > > > > > > match with actual hapennings in my Life ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40><% > > > > > 40>, > > > > > > > > > > > > " hbk1hbk_2100 " <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. You have Moon, Mars, Rahu in the constellation of > > Ketu > > > in 6th > > > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Jupiter is the strong significator of 8th house as > > > there is no > > > > > > > > > planet in jupiter's nakshatra, and there is no > > occupant in > > > eighth > > > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Sun, Mercury, Ketu, Mars, rahu, jupiter, Moon are > > > > > > > significators of > > > > > > > > > 12th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. For Leo ascendant Mars is the badhaka planet as it > > > rules the > > > > > > > 9th > > > > > > > > > house. Rahu in conjunction with Mars will be a strong > > badhaka > > > > > > > planet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Most of your planets are in the subs of rahu. I did not > > > get into > > > > > > > > > further details as it will take too much of my time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You should be careful when the signicators of 6th, 8th, > > > 12th, and > > > > > > > > > badhaka will act together in dasha, bhukti and anthras. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu and Venus are very strong badhaka planets for you. > > > Venus is > > > > > > > > > occupant of 9th house and no planet in its > > constellation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You should be very careful when rahu, venus, will act > > with > > > > > > > > > significators of 8th house Jupiter and the 12th house > > > > > > > significators > > > > > > > > > mentioned above. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Strong significators: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 SAT, VENUS > > > > > > > > > 2. MERCURY > > > > > > > > > 3. VENUS > > > > > > > > > 4. JUPITER, MARS > > > > > > > > > 5. JUPITER, SAT > > > > > > > > > 6. MOON, MARS, RAHU, SAT, KETU > > > > > > > > > 7. SAT > > > > > > > > > 8. JUPITER > > > > > > > > > 9. VENUS, MARS > > > > > > > > > 10. VENUS, SAT, MERCURY, VENUS > > > > > > > > > 11. MERCURY > > > > > > > > > 12. SUN, MERCURY, KETU, MARS, JUPITER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40><% > > > > > 40>, > > > > > > > " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Singh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not many who could read my Horoscope > > correctly, but > > > > > > > just 2 > > > > > > > > > > astrologers, one is KP and another is Traditional. > > This is > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > of the planets are in the constellations of the > > Nodes. > > > But if > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > wish > > > > > > > > > > you may try. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 28th June 1961 10.14 am (Recorded) 16.45N 81.09E > > Eluru ( > > > near > > > > > > > > > > Vijaywada,Andhra). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You may also observe the 6th house appearing almost > > every > > > > > > > where. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > > <%40>, > > > > > > > " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you please provide me with your birth data. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > <%40> > > > > > <%40>, > > > > > > > > > > > > " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Singh ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have 7 Planets signifying the 12th house. But > > > never been > > > > > > > > > admitted > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > the hospital since last 48 years by Lord Shri > > Krishnas > > > > > > > Grace. > > > > > > > > > See > > > > > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > > > > are not pure cases of all planets signifying one > > > particular > > > > > > > > > house ( > > > > > > > > > > > > Cusp) . There is always a mixture of other > > planets too, > > > > > > > > > therefore > > > > > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > > > need not get panicky or too elated either in > > cases where > > > > > > > in such > > > > > > > > > > > cases > > > > > > > > > > > > one finds prominent evil Houses figuring or > > Benefic > > > houses > > > > > > > > > figuring > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > the calculations respectively. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless its a pure case. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > <%40> > > > > > <%40>, > > > > > > > " hbk1hbk_2100 " > > > > > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have all nine planets signifying 11th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > <% > > 40><% > > > > > 40>, > > > > > > > > > > > > " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please give the chart details of those > > charts where > > > > > > > you have > > > > > > > > > > > > > found, all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nine planets signifying one house . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is not possible, and very much rare and > > happens > > > > > > > maybe > > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > > > > once in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > many decades or so ( For instance birth on > > 5th > > > Feb 1962 > > > > > > > > > with 7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planets > > > > > > > > > > > > > > occupying same sign), and that also as per Kp > > > this may > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > happen, > > > > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as per Traditional this signification may be > > > there in > > > > > > > such > > > > > > > > > rare > > > > > > > > > > > > > example. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not think you have many such examples to > > > produce, > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have a few, learning of Kp is not to be done > > > with such > > > > > > > rare > > > > > > > > > > > example > > > > > > > > > > > > > > charts. You have hundreds of illustrated > > charts > > > in KP > > > > > > > > > Readers, > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guide books on Kp, so why must there be the > > need to > > > > > > > study > > > > > > > > > such > > > > > > > > > > > rare > > > > > > > > > > > > > > charts " to learn KP system effectively " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > <% > > 40><% > > > > > 40>, > > > > > > > > > > > > " sudhagarceg " > > > > > > > > > <sudhagarceg@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am new to kp system and eagerly learning > > > student. In > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > charts > > > > > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > found that all the nine planets signifies a > > > house.. > > > > > > > FOr > > > > > > > > > > > example > > > > > > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nine planets signifies 8th house, in > > another chart > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > the 9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > planets > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > signifies 11 house. what does it mean? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In first case (all 9 => 8th house)will get > > > accidents > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > periods? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In second case (all 9=>11th house) will get > > > luck and > > > > > > > > > comfort > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all the periods? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please clear my doubts in order to learn > > kp syetem > > > > > > > > > > > effectively. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you sirs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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