Tradition v/s non tradition

[Guest guest]

Sir,

 

Whatever you will do, I know will be done with Love, affections and for

our well being. I have full faith in your Moderatorship abilities, and

your actions whatever they may be, will be accepted and reciprocated

with Love, know it.

 

Love and regards,

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, " sreesog " <sreesog

wrote:

>

> Dear Gopi ji and Bhaskar ji,

> Is it time to put you both reputed members of this group under

> moderation, I wonder! [:-?]

> Note: Please keep-up with my running commentary.... I was absent for

> 3 days and is yet to read the remaining mails... []

> Love and regards,

> Sreenadh

>

> , " Bhaskar "

> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Gopi ji,

> >

> > //> sorry i am not interested in your autobiography.//

> >

> > I have just advised you so many times not to make assumptions, but

You

> > keep on doing so like a small child. How many times should I tell

you

> > this, NOT TO ASSUME. I am NOT HERE TO CARESS YOU OR YOUR INTERESTS

> BCOZ

> > FOR ME U R NON EXISTENT EXCEPT FOR BEING A HAMPER IN THIS NORMAL

> PROPER

> > DISCUSSIONS GOING ON...

> >

> > The autobiography was not for you, but for the others who think me

to

> be

> > a Pure Telugu South Indian. Got it ? C'mon You are not Sridevi or

> Helen,

> > or Katrina Kaif that I must spend time in writing my autobiography

and

> > making you read the same, to impress you..

> >

> > // how do you expect everybody to know hindi?...//

> >

> > I do not know how and from where you have come to existence. But

even

> a

> > small village boy knows the difference between Hindi and other

> regional

> > languages.... You cannot compare Hindi the universal National

language

> > in action with a regional language like telugu.

> >

> > Do not try to justify something which is Not there. Just leave this

> > discussion please. there is no scope for you to put any arguments

over

> > here...

> >

> > Bhaskar.

>

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Dear Bhaskar ji,//Jyotish Work// Ya, Ya - that is what are interested at! //study astrology// - Good good, everybody can try it.//One must study astrology before trying to deem it as a worthless

science.// Yes, a good but arguable point. But I wonder what is that trash that is contained in that mail, except these 2-3 words! I wonder why can't I here not much sounds from this mail; what happened to the beautiful song of astrology it used to sing?!!Love and regards,Sreenadh , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > I have already given reasons umpteen ( Innumerous) times, on this Group> and others on why I have two names., one given through Birth, and other> taken for Professional Jyotish Work. Those who have come in late, and> just turned astrologers , I would advise them to practise some astrology> further before commenting as critics on the why of this related to> otehrs who have a seperate exclusive stature, the least to say.... > > One must do some homework before trying to criticise. One must study> astrology before trying to deem it as a worthless science. One must feel> the softness of the Rose petals before commenting on its futility wheres> there none. One must feel the loneliness of a man ostracised from his> family befoe commenting on why he left his home....> > We must know the facts before we comment in a blaming tone, bcoz when we> point a finger at some one, 3 are pointed towards us..> > Gopi ji, find out the reasons for my keeping two names, and also whether> I have shielded this knowledge from the public, before you relate it to> being an act of a not straight man, which I am not and never was, and> never will be....> > Bhaskar whatever he does, right or wrong is always available to talk the> truth and justify it if he is right, or ask for forgiveness whenever he> is wrong... But concealments of facts, this is nOT the Nature of> Bhaskar.> > Bhaskar.

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I am losing control! Bhagavan muche kantrol do...! , "gopalakrishna" <gopi_b927 wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar ji,> you dont WANT to understand.You just want to shout.When i respond to> your question marks,you call it assuptions ,this,that and twist....> there is no point going on like this personal attacks.I am going to stop> responding also leaving everything to your own ASUPTIONS.....> BY,> GOPI

[Guest guest]

Dear Sreenadh ji,

 

I remember that in the olden and golden days, whenever we used to buy

good quality rice, our grandmother and mother, used to periodically take

the Rice Bin, and a Large Steel plate, and then began removing the

" Kankar-Pathar " and seperate those small pebbles from the rice, to make

it worthy of being boiled and eatable.

 

Now also you have good quality rice, but you people do not wish to

remove the pebbles and desire absolute clean Rice, like 2 minute fast

Noodles, which if one requisites, then remember that some chemical

content, preservatives and acids too will be passed over to the

digestive system which is not good for health.

 

Whenever we go to see a good movie, you have to bear with the

advertisements, Trailors and the long songs too along with the script of

the movie.

 

So concentrate on the movie and close the eyes when you dont want to see

the National anthem.

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, " sreesog " <sreesog

wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji and Gopi ji,

> //dont speak if I dont know.//

> Don't speak if there is no astrological content in the mail! [X-(]

> [] I wonder whether I start speaking Telugu or Marvari -

> !@#@#$$$$$%%^ & & & & **()( - the languages I don't know!!! [:- & ]

>

> Ok- astro content:

> ! - represent the awe I have about astrology

> @ - represent the rate of people who is now into internet astrology.

> # - represent a way in which (with 9 cells) a numerical chakra can be

> written.

> $ - you know it! It represent the $ someone hope in wain to get from

> doing internet astrology.

> % - yap, some without much astrological knowledge assume that

> astro-prediction success/failure rate can be notated using this

symbol.

> & - they call it 'ampersand'. I wonder what this 'amper' and 'sand'

> mean! Possibly this letter helps us to think whether the whole of

> astro-knowledge available today is the corrupted version of some good

> ancient astrological wisdom.

> * - yap, you got it astrology is based on stars some fools say!

> () - Everything told above can be put in brackets because at the end

it

> is all just !@#@#$$$$$%%^ & & & & **()( !!!

> Love and regards,

> Sreenadh

>

> , " Bhaskar "

> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Gopi ji,

> >

> > // If you are a straight man you dont have to have 2 names.//

> >

> > Again assumptions that those who have two names are not straight. So

> > many Actors have two names. Are they not straight ? Even Cheiro the

> > great palmist had two names. He was not straight ? Those who are not

> > straight with two names are those who hide this fact from the

Public.

> I

> > do not. Go to face Book. Go to every Website I am affliated with and

> > tyou will find the mention of this fact.

> >

> > //Anyway if you are a straight man,i am a simple man aswell.My

simple

> > definition is one who is/was born in a telugu language speaking

> land.As

> > simple as that....

> > gopi. //

> >

> > So You mean to say that all those who migrated to Bombay be it

Parsis,

> > Gujaratis, Biharis, North indians, Bengalis, South Indians, their

> > children are all " Marathi's " ????

> >

> > Sir I told you do not argue with me. I know what I speak. And dont

> speak

> > if I dont know.

> >

> > Bhaskar.

>

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Dear Bhaskar ji and Gopi ji,//And now I hope we close the thread

for posterity sake. // Yes, let us SHUT-UP. Thread closed! That sounds good! Love and regards,Sreenadh , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear Gopi ji,> > // you dont WANT to understand.You just want to shout//> > Sir you again started assuming.How do you know what I WANT. Even my wife> does not know what I want, and most of the times even I do not know what> I want. And who is shouting. I am sure only you have heard my voice> here...> > // there is no point going on like this personal attacks//> > Sir your following lines are known as personal attacks, and trying to> hit below the belt. Luckily I have alibis for every actions of mines so> no one can hit me and hurt me.> > // If you are a straight man you dont have to have 2 names.//> > // sorry i am not interested in your autobiography.//> > // If at all any contempt is there it is not about the language but> about> > the concerned person....//> > I can write much more, but would be wasting precious moments of my Life> in searching, locating and copy pasting. Makes no sense. We are not> fighting any Mahabharata war.> > And now I hope we close the thread for posterity sake. I have nothing> against you, know this. You may be a good man, and I do not have any> strong reasons to doubt it.> > And now enjoy your Sunday dear Gopalkrishnaji, and let me work too...> > No issues from my sides, and no hard feelings. I still find you> affectionate.. And dont now start assuming matters again. I am straight.> I find you affectionate for many matters including the comedy and humour> you produce alongwith time pass.> > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.

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Dear Sreenadh ji,

 

//But I wonder what is that trash that is

> contained in that mail, except these 2-3 words! I wonder why can't I

> here not much sounds from this mail; what happened to the beautiful

song

> of astrology it used to sing?!! //

 

The view of a person all depends on the state of the mind which is the

viewer. If I am in a good romantic mood I will find even the rain drops

and getting wet in the rain, very pleasant, and so will the darkness of

the senset setting in very pleasing, and soo would the resting of the

pigeons on my wondow sill, but if my mood is not right, then everyone

and everything will sound caustic...

 

So its better to view only when the right mood sets in... Hahaha.

 

Love and regards,

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " sreesog " <sreesog

wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji,

> //Jyotish Work// Ya, Ya - that is what are interested at!

> //study astrology// - Good good, everybody can try it.

> //One must study astrology before trying to deem it as a worthless

> science.//

> Yes, a good but arguable point. But I wonder what is that trash that

is

> contained in that mail, except these 2-3 words! I wonder why can't I

> here not much sounds from this mail; what happened to the beautiful

song

> of astrology it used to sing?!!

> Love and regards,

> Sreenadh

>

> , " Bhaskar "

> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > I have already given reasons umpteen ( Innumerous) times, on this

> Group

> > and others on why I have two names., one given through Birth, and

> other

> > taken for Professional Jyotish Work. Those who have come in late,

and

> > just turned astrologers , I would advise them to practise some

> astrology

> > further before commenting as critics on the why of this related to

> > otehrs who have a seperate exclusive stature, the least to say....

> >

> > One must do some homework before trying to criticise. One must study

> > astrology before trying to deem it as a worthless science. One must

> feel

> > the softness of the Rose petals before commenting on its futility

> wheres

> > there none. One must feel the loneliness of a man ostracised from

his

> > family befoe commenting on why he left his home....

> >

> > We must know the facts before we comment in a blaming tone, bcoz

when

> we

> > point a finger at some one, 3 are pointed towards us..

> >

> > Gopi ji, find out the reasons for my keeping two names, and also

> whether

> > I have shielded this knowledge from the public, before you relate it

> to

> > being an act of a not straight man, which I am not and never was,

and

> > never will be....

> >

> > Bhaskar whatever he does, right or wrong is always available to talk

> the

> > truth and justify it if he is right, or ask for forgiveness whenever

> he

> > is wrong... But concealments of facts, this is nOT the Nature of

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > Bhaskar.

>

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Hahahaha. Good usage of Hindi... I like this...

 

, " sreesog " <sreesog

wrote:

>

> I am losing control! Bhagavan muche kantrol do...! [#-o]

>

> , " gopalakrishna "

> gopi_b927@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > you dont WANT to understand.You just want to shout.When i respond to

> > your question marks,you call it assuptions ,this,that and twist....

> > there is no point going on like this personal attacks.I am going to

> stop

> > responding also leaving everything to your own ASUPTIONS.....

> > BY,

> > GOPI

>

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Dear Bhaskar ji, Oh! OK. That is a good thing to hear. Love and regards,Sreenadh , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > This conversation has already ended, with Shri Gopiji promising me one> lunch when I visit his place wherever and whenever, which he did promise> albeit reluctantly, but am sure would oblige with a smile for a short> while, when the oppurtunity comes..> > Love and regards,> > Bhaskar.

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Dear Chakraborty ji, That is beautiful mail! I second it!Love and regards,Sreenadh , "Chakraborty, PL" <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar-ji,> > I understand what you are trying to say. But I beg to differ.> > I respect all the languages equally. So do most of the people.> > But your comprehension that 'Hindi is the National languages and others are Regional languages"> and hence Hindi is above par is not acceptable. Also comparing Hindi to sky and other languages> to small piece of land .....not in very good taste either.> > You are not even respecting Indian Constitution which gives equal status to all major languages> (including Hindi ) and term them as "national languages" ---- not as "regional languages". Hindi is> additionally an Official language along with English. That's all.> > We learn many languages because that helps us in communication. That's all. I learnt Hindi when> the need arose...not before that. Same with English. If posted in AP or TN for a long time, I will also> learn Telugu or Tamil.> > Let us respect our mother tongues ....but let not say that it is superior to x/y/z language and thereby> insult those languages.> > Please note that a language only flourishes with strong support ...which may be Royal / Govt. / Intelligentia.> Sanskrit / Farsi / Urdu had flourished at past with same reason. So does English and Hindi. If China becomes> only Super Power, we will learn Chinese too. So a language (Hindi) flourishing need not mean that other> languages are inferior.> > The politicians who could not think beyond Hindi belt --- intentionally popularized the mis-concept that Hindi> is "The National Language". This zingoism has created more hurdles for spread of this beautiful language.> Probably you are under the same mis-conception.> > regards> > > Chakraborty

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Dear Chakraborty ji,//BTW, in TOI, (last Sunday, Agra edition) there was a survey about languages.

Regarding bi-linguality/multi-liguality, the survey points out that Konkani people

are most multi-lingual. Most poor performance comes from following lingustic groups

1) Hindi 2) Tamil 3) Bengali// That is a good bit of information! Thanks for the same. Love and regards,Sreenadh , "Chakraborty, PL" <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar-ji,> > Then just write that Hindi has a better reach at this moment compared> to any other 'national language' (not regional language).> > BTW, in TOI, (last Sunday, Agra edition) there was a survey about languages.> Regarding bi-linguality/multi-liguality, the survey points out that Konkani people> are most multi-lingual. Most poor performance comes from following lingustic groups> > 1) Hindi> 2) Tamil> 3) Bengali> > regards> > Chakraborty

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Dear Renu ji, A good point. But with hatred and anger it is emptyness that flows out and not fullness. Love and hugs,Sreenadh , "renunw" <renunw wrote:>> > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > //Water and air over-flow when the container is full; so is love and happiness. :)//> > So do poisonous liquids & gases! Just like hatred and anger. > > But sure, we are talking about love & happiness here:)> > blessings,> > Renu

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Dear Bhaskar ji, "Good only" will make the whole world boring! So I would love a world be occasional kankar-pathar than trying to be in an Utopia. //Whenever we go to see a good movie, you have to bear with the

advertisements, Trailors and the long songs too along with the script of

the movie.

So concentrate on the movie and close the eyes when you dont want to see

the National anthem.// Ha..Ha.. A good point. Well presented! But, don't you think I closed the eyes of 3 days? Love and regards,Sreenadh , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > I remember that in the olden and golden days, whenever we used to buy> good quality rice, our grandmother and mother, used to periodically take> the Rice Bin, and a Large Steel plate, and then began removing the> "Kankar-Pathar" and seperate those small pebbles from the rice, to make> it worthy of being boiled and eatable.> > Now also you have good quality rice, but you people do not wish to> remove the pebbles and desire absolute clean Rice, like 2 minute fast> Noodles, which if one requisites, then remember that some chemical> content, preservatives and acids too will be passed over to the> digestive system which is not good for health.> > Whenever we go to see a good movie, you have to bear with the> advertisements, Trailors and the long songs too along with the script of> the movie.> > So concentrate on the movie and close the eyes when you dont want to see> the National anthem.> > Bhaskar.

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Ha..Ha.. Well presented! , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > //But I wonder what is that trash that is> > contained in that mail, except these 2-3 words! I wonder why can't I> > here not much sounds from this mail; what happened to the beautiful> song> > of astrology it used to sing?!! //> > The view of a person all depends on the state of the mind which is the> viewer. If I am in a good romantic mood I will find even the rain drops> and getting wet in the rain, very pleasant, and so will the darkness of> the senset setting in very pleasing, and soo would the resting of the> pigeons on my wondow sill, but if my mood is not right, then everyone> and everything will sound caustic...> > So its better to view only when the right mood sets in... Hahaha.> > Love and regards,> > Bhaskar.

[Guest guest]

Dear Sirs,

// But, don't you think I closed the eyes of 3 days?//

Thats why the mouse were naughty and played for 3 days, which you see now after having opened your eyes...

But the school and its children needs a break like this to complete and manifest all the emotions which erupt in ones being. So now after having had their fill they should stay disciplined for some time at least, unless some naughty boy hits another (Innocent like me) without reason and provocates him.

Love and regards,

Bhaskar.

 

, "sreesog" <sreesog wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar ji,> "Good only" will make the whole world boring! So I would love a world> be occasional kankar-pathar than trying to be in an Utopia. []> //Whenever we go to see a good movie, you have to bear with the> advertisements, Trailors and the long songs too along with the script of> the movie.> So concentrate on the movie and close the eyes when you dont want to see> the National anthem.//> Ha..Ha.. A good point. Well presented! But, don't you think I closed> the eyes of 3 days? [>]> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > , "Bhaskar"> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> >> > Dear Sreenadh ji,> >> > I remember that in the olden and golden days, whenever we used to buy> > good quality rice, our grandmother and mother, used to periodically> take> > the Rice Bin, and a Large Steel plate, and then began removing the> > "Kankar-Pathar" and seperate those small pebbles from the rice, to> make> > it worthy of being boiled and eatable.> >> > Now also you have good quality rice, but you people do not wish to> > remove the pebbles and desire absolute clean Rice, like 2 minute fast> > Noodles, which if one requisites, then remember that some chemical> > content, preservatives and acids too will be passed over to the> > digestive system which is not good for health.> >> > Whenever we go to see a good movie, you have to bear with the> > advertisements, Trailors and the long songs too along with the script> of> > the movie.> >> > So concentrate on the movie and close the eyes when you dont want to> see> > the National anthem.> >> > Bhaskar.>

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Dear Sreenadh ji,really you are clever/chalak and more.You made such serious remark and then ask me(tool)not take it serious!!..ok,for you i dont take it serious but request you not to use human tools.Humans have culprit minds.They misunderstand your good intention(S).Misunderstanding became natural for mind and understanding un natural long back.//chalak (Ush! Hindi!)!!! []//these kind of words once in a while are good.Being a malayalee living in Delhi you are chalak for sure....Love and regards,gopi. , "sreesog" <sreesog wrote:>> Dear Gopi ji,> Please don't take my mail that much serious or personal. [] I was> just using it as a tool to share some info, all references just> incidental, pure chance. [] Actually I usually make it a> choice/chance to USE any mail or event in the group as a TOOL to share> extra info - you can say that 'it is my style'. [] So actually my> focus won't be in the incident/context but on the extra info I want to> share. I was just "Using that situation, to share some thing extra with> all" - please know it clearly. Thus in reality there is NOTHING against> you in that mail, that was NOT my intention. [] But being too clever> I use almost everything that come across, and on that day, by chance it> happened to be your mail - that is all to it. []> Let us just forget the mail, absorb any useful info present in it (if> any) and let us move on...> Note: Let every situation, chance, event become a tool among us to> share info, to enrich each others knowledge and understanding... Let> Saraswaty (as wisdom) be present in every moment.... Let Krishna (as> love) be present in every moment... Let Siva (as peace) be present in> every moment... But as you could see as a common thread they (all these> Bbagavans) are all too clever/chalak (Ush! Hindi!)!!! []> Love and Hugs,> Sreenadh> > > , "gopalakrishna"> gopi_b927@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > well,well you too!!You dont have to write that much long post since i> >> > already know what all you have written and entirely agree.It is only a> >> > misunderstanding and i am used to such things in my life specially> >> > during 3rd L debilitation in transit(yours too).I share lagna/moon> with> >> > few of you people in this group and i love it.> > A misunderstanding that i dont like/respect hindi and a fanatic of> >> > English!!!I have never studied in english medium.Those who profess> >> > themselves as saviours of hindi can not talk to their children in> hindi> >> > is a fact i know.Due to mars' debilitation my PC also crashed and i> was> >> > off line for aweek or so.I am a sincere/serious research student of> >> > astrology and i discuss astrology only and not about any other thing> >> > including language issue.> > I want to make my stand clear once for all that all languages are same> >> > including sanskrit and all humans are same(in body and soul)But not in> >> > mind which is the culprit.Those who do not agree may simply ignore> >> > because no two minds are same.> > Of late it is increasingly unpleasant in the group and words like shit> >> > astrology are being repeated which gives pain.On one hand we talk> about> >> > ancient sages etc and on the other we talk like this.It also hurts to> >> > be singled out just for speaking truth and branded as fanatic!!.The> >> > rules of the game should be same for all and i believe in that.> > //I felt like saying something about 'Nepali language' which you> >> > mentioned may be with a bit of contempt. //> > If at all any contempt is there it is not about the language but about> >> > the concerned person....> > Love and regards,> > gopi.> > , "sreesog" sreesog@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Gopi ji,> > > Please don't be fanatic! Any language can be compared with any> other> > > language anywhere in the world (even though the history and vastness> > of> > > literature of various languages will differ), there is nothing wrong> > in> > > it.> > > What is wrong with comparing telungu with napali (an indo-aryan> > > language; it is widely spoken in bangal, assam and utteranchel as> > well),> > > fench (an indo-europian language; roots goes back to the celtic> vedic> > > culture) with Telugu (a dravidian languages with roots both in> > southern> > > india and the great kamboja kingdom of central russia). Once upon a> > time> > > (BC 400 and before) Brahmi inscriptions were being used to write> many> > > languages we know now such as Sanskrit, Telungu, Tamil etc. Even> > though> > > popularly known as dravidian language (do to its grammatical> > > similarity), considering the words (vocabulary) many so called> > dravidian> > > languages like Telugu, Malayalam, Kannada should be better called> > > Prakrit or indo-aryan (or is it indo-tantric?) languages itself.> There> > > connection with siva/jaina cult, central russia, brahmi, prakrit etc> > are> > > unmistakable. Let us also remember that both the fire worshiper> (vedic> > > cult) originated in Siberia and the idol worship (tantric cult)> > > originated in central russia both used Prakrit as the communication> > > medium and also that the span of various dialects of Prakrit is not> > > limited Asia and spans out to cover the whole of Europe as well.> > > The point I want to repeat and emphasis is that - Any language> can> > be> > > compare with any other language (whether they are of inside or> outside> > > of india), because all of them serve the same purpose - i.e. serving> > as> > > a communication medium between human beings. Religion is is not> bound> > by> > > imaginary national boundaries, so is languages and so is the> affection> > > for other fellow human beings anywhere in the world.> > > Note:> > > On writing this much, I felt like saying something about 'Nepali> > > language' which you mentioned may be with a bit of contempt. The> word> > > 'Nepali' can be broken as 'Ne-Pali'. Sound familiar? Pali is a> Prakrit> > > variant language spoken in host of people throughout india> especially> > > during the period of Buddha. It was a well familiar local tongue.> > > Janaka, Buddha, Kapila and many others spoke this language. Pali is> a> > > language well reputed by Buddhists and most of their ancient> > literature> > > is in Pali. It is one of the major language to which 'Ne-Pali' is> > > indebted to. Nava-Pali is Ne-Pali (modified pali; the 'New Pali').> If> > we> > > respect Sanskrit how can be disrespect Prakrit from which Sanskrit> > > originated? If we respect Prakrit how can we dis-respect 'Pali', a> > > Prakrit variant, the language of Buddha? If we respect Pali, how can> > we> > > dis-respect 'Ne-Pali' (new-pali) the language of the modern Buddists> > and> > > the inhabitants of Nepal? Is it not evident that most of the> languages> > > spoken by people of Nepal - such as> > > Nepali (48.61%), Maithili (12.30%), Bhojpuri (7.53%), Tharu (5.86%),> > > Tamang (5.19%), Newari/Nepal Bhasa (3.63%), Magar (3.39%), Awadhi> > > (2.47%), Rai (2.79%), Limbu (1.47%), and Bajjika (1.05%). - are> mostly> > > Prakrit variants? I am certain that at least you will remember (or> > > something will resonate in you) when you here names such as> Maithili,> > > Bhojpuri, Awadhi etc.> > > Love and regards,> > > Sreenadh>

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Dear Gopi ji,

 

You and a Tool ? But so are we all. Completing our smaller desires

through each other.

 

You are also an important tool for me, as you have arranged for one

Lunch in my Life time...

 

Now Sreenadhji I have not deviated, so do not complain. I am spreading

Love in this auspicious forum, though this may be a Non astrologial

talk, so what.

 

And Gopi ji, You are otherwise too an important tool, for without you

around we stand incomplete. " I " cannot become " We " without " You " ...

 

Love and regards,

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

, " gopalakrishna "

<gopi_b927 wrote:

>

> Dear Sreenadh ji,

> really you are clever/chalak and more.You made such serious remark and

> then ask me(tool)not take it serious!!..

> ok,for you i dont take it serious but request you not to use human

> tools.Humans have culprit minds.They misunderstand your good

> intention(S).Misunderstanding became natural for mind and

understanding

> un natural long back.

> //chalak (Ush! Hindi!)!!! []//

> these kind of words once in a while are good.Being a malayalee living

in

> Delhi you are chalak for sure....

> Love and regards,

> gopi.

> , " sreesog " sreesog@

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Gopi ji,

> > Please don't take my mail that much serious or personal. [] I

> was

> > just using it as a tool to share some info, all references just

> > incidental, pure chance. [] Actually I usually make it a

> > choice/chance to USE any mail or event in the group as a TOOL to

share

> > extra info - you can say that 'it is my style'. [] So actually my

> > focus won't be in the incident/context but on the extra info I want

to

> > share. I was just " Using that situation, to share some thing extra

> with

> > all " - please know it clearly. Thus in reality there is NOTHING

> against

> > you in that mail, that was NOT my intention. [] But being too

> clever

> > I use almost everything that come across, and on that day, by chance

> it

> > happened to be your mail - that is all to it. []

> > Let us just forget the mail, absorb any useful info present in it

> (if

> > any) and let us move on...

> > Note: Let every situation, chance, event become a tool among us to

> > share info, to enrich each others knowledge and understanding... Let

> > Saraswaty (as wisdom) be present in every moment.... Let Krishna (as

> > love) be present in every moment... Let Siva (as peace) be present

in

> > every moment... But as you could see as a common thread they (all

> these

> > Bbagavans) are all too clever/chalak (Ush! Hindi!)!!! []

> > Love and Hugs,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> >

> > , " gopalakrishna "

> > gopi_b927@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sreenadh ji,

> > > well,well you too!!You dont have to write that much long post

since

> i

> > >

> > > already know what all you have written and entirely agree.It is

only

> a

> > >

> > > misunderstanding and i am used to such things in my life specially

> > >

> > > during 3rd L debilitation in transit(yours too).I share lagna/moon

> > with

> > >

> > > few of you people in this group and i love it.

> > > A misunderstanding that i dont like/respect hindi and a fanatic of

> > >

> > > English!!!I have never studied in english medium.Those who profess

> > >

> > > themselves as saviours of hindi can not talk to their children in

> > hindi

> > >

> > > is a fact i know.Due to mars' debilitation my PC also crashed and

i

> > was

> > >

> > > off line for aweek or so.I am a sincere/serious research student

of

> > >

> > > astrology and i discuss astrology only and not about any other

thing

> > >

> > > including language issue.

> > > I want to make my stand clear once for all that all languages are

> same

> > >

> > > including sanskrit and all humans are same(in body and soul)But

not

> in

> > >

> > > mind which is the culprit.Those who do not agree may simply ignore

> > >

> > > because no two minds are same.

> > > Of late it is increasingly unpleasant in the group and words like

> shit

> > >

> > > astrology are being repeated which gives pain.On one hand we talk

> > about

> > >

> > > ancient sages etc and on the other we talk like this.It also hurts

> to

> > >

> > > be singled out just for speaking truth and branded as

fanatic!!.The

> > >

> > > rules of the game should be same for all and i believe in that.

> > > //I felt like saying something about 'Nepali language' which you

> > >

> > > mentioned may be with a bit of contempt. //

> > > If at all any contempt is there it is not about the language but

> about

> > >

> > > the concerned person....

> > > Love and regards,

> > > gopi.

> > > , " sreesog "

sreesog@

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Gopi ji,

> > > > Please don't be fanatic! Any language can be compared with any

> > other

> > > > language anywhere in the world (even though the history and

> vastness

> > > of

> > > > literature of various languages will differ), there is nothing

> wrong

> > > in

> > > > it.

> > > > What is wrong with comparing telungu with napali (an indo-aryan

> > > > language; it is widely spoken in bangal, assam and utteranchel

as

> > > well),

> > > > fench (an indo-europian language; roots goes back to the celtic

> > vedic

> > > > culture) with Telugu (a dravidian languages with roots both in

> > > southern

> > > > india and the great kamboja kingdom of central russia). Once

upon

> a

> > > time

> > > > (BC 400 and before) Brahmi inscriptions were being used to write

> > many

> > > > languages we know now such as Sanskrit, Telungu, Tamil etc. Even

> > > though

> > > > popularly known as dravidian language (do to its grammatical

> > > > similarity), considering the words (vocabulary) many so called

> > > dravidian

> > > > languages like Telugu, Malayalam, Kannada should be better

called

> > > > Prakrit or indo-aryan (or is it indo-tantric?) languages itself.

> > There

> > > > connection with siva/jaina cult, central russia, brahmi, prakrit

> etc

> > > are

> > > > unmistakable. Let us also remember that both the fire worshiper

> > (vedic

> > > > cult) originated in Siberia and the idol worship (tantric cult)

> > > > originated in central russia both used Prakrit as the

> communication

> > > > medium and also that the span of various dialects of Prakrit is

> not

> > > > limited Asia and spans out to cover the whole of Europe as well.

> > > > The point I want to repeat and emphasis is that - Any language

> > can

> > > be

> > > > compare with any other language (whether they are of inside or

> > outside

> > > > of india), because all of them serve the same purpose - i.e.

> serving

> > > as

> > > > a communication medium between human beings. Religion is is not

> > bound

> > > by

> > > > imaginary national boundaries, so is languages and so is the

> > affection

> > > > for other fellow human beings anywhere in the world.

> > > > Note:

> > > > On writing this much, I felt like saying something about

> 'Nepali

> > > > language' which you mentioned may be with a bit of contempt. The

> > word

> > > > 'Nepali' can be broken as 'Ne-Pali'. Sound familiar? Pali is a

> > Prakrit

> > > > variant language spoken in host of people throughout india

> > especially

> > > > during the period of Buddha. It was a well familiar local

tongue.

> > > > Janaka, Buddha, Kapila and many others spoke this language. Pali

> is

> > a

> > > > language well reputed by Buddhists and most of their ancient

> > > literature

> > > > is in Pali. It is one of the major language to which 'Ne-Pali'

is

> > > > indebted to. Nava-Pali is Ne-Pali (modified pali; the 'New

Pali').

> > If

> > > we

> > > > respect Sanskrit how can be disrespect Prakrit from which

Sanskrit

> > > > originated? If we respect Prakrit how can we dis-respect 'Pali',

a

> > > > Prakrit variant, the language of Buddha? If we respect Pali, how

> can

> > > we

> > > > dis-respect 'Ne-Pali' (new-pali) the language of the modern

> Buddists

> > > and

> > > > the inhabitants of Nepal? Is it not evident that most of the

> > languages

> > > > spoken by people of Nepal - such as

> > > > Nepali (48.61%), Maithili (12.30%), Bhojpuri (7.53%), Tharu

> (5.86%),

> > > > Tamang (5.19%), Newari/Nepal Bhasa (3.63%), Magar (3.39%),

Awadhi

> > > > (2.47%), Rai (2.79%), Limbu (1.47%), and Bajjika (1.05%). - are

> > mostly

> > > > Prakrit variants? I am certain that at least you will remember

(or

> > > > something will resonate in you) when you here names such as

> > Maithili,

> > > > Bhojpuri, Awadhi etc.

> > > > Love and regards,

> > > > Sreenadh

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Gopi ji, It is not you who is the tool, but the mail/message, scenario/situation, event/action. I am against considering humans as 'tools', but then again the industry I work with (IT/computer) calls the employees by the name 'Resource'! Bad habit! Bureaucracy! Man is not machine, and far less tools.. But see in this world everyone is clever/chalak and me too.. So let it be - you are all my tool, and I am your tool! I hope that will solve the problem! Love and regards,Sreenadh , "gopalakrishna" <gopi_b927 wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh ji,> really you are clever/chalak and more.You made such serious remark and> then ask me(tool)not take it serious!!..> ok,for you i dont take it serious but request you not to use human> tools.Humans have culprit minds.They misunderstand your good> intention(S).Misunderstanding became natural for mind and understanding> un natural long back.> //chalak (Ush! Hindi!)!!! []//> these kind of words once in a while are good.Being a malayalee living in> Delhi you are chalak for sure....> Love and regards,> gopi.> , "sreesog" sreesog@> wrote:> >> > Dear Gopi ji,> > Please don't take my mail that much serious or personal. [] I> was> > just using it as a tool to share some info, all references just> > incidental, pure chance. [] Actually I usually make it a> > choice/chance to USE any mail or event in the group as a TOOL to share> > extra info - you can say that 'it is my style'. [] So actually my> > focus won't be in the incident/context but on the extra info I want to> > share. I was just "Using that situation, to share some thing extra> with> > all" - please know it clearly. Thus in reality there is NOTHING> against> > you in that mail, that was NOT my intention. [] But being too> clever> > I use almost everything that come across, and on that day, by chance> it> > happened to be your mail - that is all to it. []> > Let us just forget the mail, absorb any useful info present in it> (if> > any) and let us move on...> > Note: Let every situation, chance, event become a tool among us to> > share info, to enrich each others knowledge and understanding... Let> > Saraswaty (as wisdom) be present in every moment.... Let Krishna (as> > love) be present in every moment... Let Siva (as peace) be present in> > every moment... But as you could see as a common thread they (all> these> > Bbagavans) are all too clever/chalak (Ush! Hindi!)!!! []> > Love and Hugs,> > Sreenadh

[Guest guest]

Dear Gopi ji,//Misunderstanding became natural for mind and understanding un natural long back.// That is a beautiful statement! Yes, misunderstanding is natural and understanding unnatural! That is the very nature of mind! It almost never understands but only misunderstands!Love and regards,Sreenadh

[Guest guest]

Try making misunderstanding as Miss Under Standing. Kyon Bhaskar ji and Gopi Ji.

 

Lets get back to business, if permitted.

 

best wishes,

 

Mouji Ram

 

 

 

sreesog <sreesog Sent: Mon, April 19, 2010 6:17:32 PM Re: Tradition v/s non tradition

Dear Gopi ji,//Misunderstanding became natural for mind and understanding un natural long back.// That is a beautiful statement! Yes, misunderstanding is natural and understanding unnatural! That is the very nature of mind! It almost never understands but only misunderstands!Love and regards,Sreenadh

[Guest guest]

Dear Sreenadh ji,sorry ,neither you nor any human being is a tool for me.If you are a tool i dont have any right to request you not to use humans as tool(S).....Love and regards,gopi. , "sreesog" <sreesog wrote:>> Dear Gopi ji,> It is not you who is the tool, but the mail/message,> scenario/situation, event/action. [] I am against considering humans> as 'tools', but then again the industry I work with (IT/computer) calls> the employees by the name 'Resource'! Bad habit! Bureaucracy! Man is not> machine, and far less tools.. [] But see in this world everyone is> clever/chalak and me too.. [] [] [)] [>] So let it be - you> are all my tool, and I am your tool! I hope that will solve the problem!> [;]> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > , "gopalakrishna"> gopi_b927@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > really you are clever/chalak and more.You made such serious remark and> > then ask me(tool)not take it serious!!..> > ok,for you i dont take it serious but request you not to use human> > tools.Humans have culprit minds.They misunderstand your good> > intention(S).Misunderstanding became natural for mind and> understanding> > un natural long back.> > //chalak (Ush! Hindi!)!!! []//> > these kind of words once in a while are good.Being a malayalee living> in> > Delhi you are chalak for sure....> > Love and regards,> > gopi.> > , "sreesog" sreesog@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Gopi ji,> > > Please don't take my mail that much serious or personal. [] I> > was> > > just using it as a tool to share some info, all references just> > > incidental, pure chance. [] Actually I usually make it a> > > choice/chance to USE any mail or event in the group as a TOOL to> share> > > extra info - you can say that 'it is my style'. [] So actually> my> > > focus won't be in the incident/context but on the extra info I want> to> > > share. I was just "Using that situation, to share some thing extra> > with> > > all" - please know it clearly. Thus in reality there is NOTHING> > against> > > you in that mail, that was NOT my intention. [] But being too> > clever> > > I use almost everything that come across, and on that day, by chance> > it> > > happened to be your mail - that is all to it. []> > > Let us just forget the mail, absorb any useful info present in it> > (if> > > any) and let us move on...> > > Note: Let every situation, chance, event become a tool among us> to> > > share info, to enrich each others knowledge and understanding... Let> > > Saraswaty (as wisdom) be present in every moment.... Let Krishna (as> > > love) be present in every moment... Let Siva (as peace) be present> in> > > every moment... But as you could see as a common thread they (all> > these> > > Bbagavans) are all too clever/chalak (Ush! Hindi!)!!! []> > > Love and Hugs,> > > Sreenadh>