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Dear GirishYou are absolutely correct so hence forth do I take my lagna as Scorpio but Mercury is not pure benefic it is also lord of 8 besides being lord of 11.How will Venus-Mercury period go starting from 19Dec2009,any overseas job oppurtunity---RegardsPuneet Ahuja --- On Tue, 1/12/09, Girish menon <horamag wrote:Girish menon <horamag Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Date: Tuesday, 1 December, 2009, 11:32 PM

 

 

Dear PuneethjiMercury dasha was good because of Me is in kendra from scorpio lagna and also it is vargottamaRegardsGirish--- On Tue, 12/1/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> wrote:puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com>Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRAancient_indian_ astrologyTuesday, December 1, 2009, 9:27 PM

 

 

DEAR SANTHOSHJupiter is neecha but it is neechabanga as Saturn lord of sign where it is neecha is with him and lord of exaltation sign where Jupiter exalts,Moon is in kendra from Jupiter and aspects Jupiter.Are you suggesting that Jupiter is still neecha and not neechabhnaga that is why it is giving bad effects in healthRegardsPuneet Ahuja --- On Tue, 1/12/09, santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> wrote:santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT)

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Dear deepak,I misstook d4. My mistake and apologies.I beg to differ with you on the signification for mars. Mars signifies bone marrow and not blood.Bone marrow works to produce blood and it has got nothing to do with the blood preasure. This could be due to deposits in the blood of colestrol and fat. Thats why bp and colestrol generally come together. Jupiter signifies fats and colestrol. You will see in his chart that ju is in neecha.His roga time started in venus dasa which in 6h after rectification. What roga? Because of ju, bp is definitely in picture. Ask him about colestrol also.By the way chandra signifies blood not moon. Here it means all liquid in the body including blood.I hope it is clearRegardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ >

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Hi Santhosh,Kindly go through my earlier mail again -1.) D-4 Chart is not considered at all,2.) D-9 is considered to check the strength of Sun. Anything Strange?3.) Is it Strange to go into Shashtamsha Chart (D-6) for diseases?// can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp //Mars ruling muscular parts and blood should be checked for BP cases.Best Regards,Deepak Sharma "santhosh@sudhamayi .com" <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>ancient_indian_ astrologyTue, December 1, 2009 10:19:59 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

Dear deepak,Thats strange going into d6 and d4. Further, can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp. Where did you get it from?RegardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ >

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Dear Puneet Ji,Without going into Birth time rectification / fixing of Ascendant, which mayrequire further inputs and study, it can be observed that -Your BP problem is due to debilitation of Sun in D-9 and Debilitation of Mars in D-6 Chart. Mars being dispositor of current dasha (irrespective of ascendant) also matters here. Weak Sun is also responsible for Job related problems though there must be other reasons as well.Best Regards,Deepak Sharmagopalakrishna <gopi_b927 >ancient_indian_ astrologyTue, December 1, 2009 6:47:41 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

Dear Puneet,according to my knowledge it will give the efects of both houses as well as 5thH since it is retro and you yourself are confirming it.Do not also forget as you said it will give lagna/12thH afects which you also mentioned.Anyway since it is a sandhi lagna i feel the birth time need to be checked/rectified. ......Love and regards,gopi.ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Gopi> I am getting bad effects as Venus is also retrograde and sincrely think it is bad effects of 6 house as  if venus in 7 then it aspects lagna then I must definitely get good effects.> Venus Dasa started in 1993 Iit was giving good effects till 2001 after that it has been giving bad effects ,you can say from 1993 to 2001 it gave 7 house effects and since 201 it is giving 6 house bhava effects-is  this possible---- ---------

-------Â > RegardsPuneet Ahuja> > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. . wrote:> > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. .> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> ancient_indian_ astrology> Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:45 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji,> Are you really getting bad effects is the crux of the matter.If so only then Bhava chart should be considered.But my personal opinion is both 6 as well as 7H could give bad effects but those bad effects vary and you know why.....> Love and regards,> gopi.> ancient_indian_ astrology@

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Dear SANTOSHJIAs my Mercury dasa started in end Dec71 my father who was working in Airlines got promoted to GM and we were transferred to Delhi.I completed my education graduation,MBA in Mercury Dasa ,bought a house where I was staying for 10 years in 1985 during Mercury-Saturn in 1985 got married had a love affair and got married in OCT 1986.Ketu dasa was very very bad had a divorce in Ketu-MARS in 1988, our tenants with help of some high official filed a criminal case against me and my father regarding our house.We had to leave our house and stay in a rented placeDuring Nov89 we sold our old house and bought a new luxury flat where I am staying since last 20 years.During Ketu-Rahu Got remarried ,loss of issue was in OCT 1992Ketu Dasa was very very bad which shows bad effects of Ketu in 5 if you take Libra

lagnaDuring Venus-Venus end it gave us inheritance of big money from my uncle who had expired and left his property in my fathers name. .Venus was very good till 2001 ,Bad period started from Venus-RAHU,Venus -jupiter Venus-Saturn was okay gave me a overseas trip to Doha for my job.Having lot of hopes on Venus-Mercury starting from 19dec2009.Mercury Dasa has given ,more of Lbra LAGNA effects,love affair into marriage and loss of marriage by Ketu in 5 and loss of issue by Ketu in 5.I have just given you my details so that you can understand better--- On Tue, 1/12/09, Santhosh <santhosh wrote:Santhosh <santhoshRE: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Date: Tuesday, 1

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Dear Puneet, //But if we take Scorpio lagna then my Mercury dasa which was excellent

cannot be explained with Scorpio lagna.// Let us consider this. Can you break this period of mercury dasa into 2

and tell me which half was better. Further, when you say excellent, in what

terms it was excellent we can then possibly arrive at a satisfactory answer. Where you employed in Govt service? And was it a uniformed service? Regards Santhosh

 

 

 

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9:49 AM

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DEAR Deepakji/Manojji/ Santhoshji/ Girishji

 

Time has been correctly recorded at the hospital

when I was born,have rechecked the same By your views, I think you are

suggesting that my lagna is Scorpio and Venus as 6 lord is giiving me bad

effects.

 

Sun would become strong

as for Scorpio lagna ,it is lord of 10 placed in 5 and RAHU is placed

in 10 house in house of Sun that way carrer wouls have been good if it is

Scorpio lagna.

 

Yes Sun being neecha in navamsa makes it weak and I

have to be very very careful in Sun dasa starting in 2013 from litigation,bad

luck and health problems.

 

 

But if we take Scorpio lagna then my Mercury dasa

which was excellent cannot be explained with Scorpio lagna.

 

 

Kindly give your views for the above

 

 

Warm Regards

 

Puneet Ahuja

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ancient_indian_ astrology

Tuesday, 1 December, 2009, 4:51 PM

 

Dear Deepak Ji,

 

Here are my views on it: 6H is 12th from the 7th. 6H is also the house of

litigation. For both these reasons it is definitely the house for divorce.

 

Now there is another contreversial rule I learned from one of my teachers. 6H

is also the house of "the other one" or the "person one

is having an affair with". I forget the explanation for this, but

apparently Parashara mentions this in one of his shlokas. So along with the

2H, 6H also can lead to "divorce due to interference from outside".

Regards, -Manoj

 

 

 

 

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Dear Santosh Ji,

Is the Sixth house treated as "House of Divorce" as you mentioned

below?

May I ask you to throw some light upon this. Thank you.

 

Best Regards,

Deepak Sharma

 

 

 

 

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Thats

good surmise. That explains very well. Nevertheless, 7th lord is in the house

of divorce or marital problems. But being in own navamsha, imparts some

strength to the 7th bhava.

Regards

Santhosh Sent

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Dear

Santosh Interseting

case study about wrong birth time. The

time 10:10 is not correct Within

3 minutes 23 seconds his lagna changes to scorpio Now

if we calculate the lagna from scorpio as puneet said Negative

is due to health after 2002 having BP problems,profession al problems in

job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in family health and career. Gives

more clarity Dear

Puneetji I

feel the bhava cakra is not the issue here but the wrong time which I don’t

blame you for that Thanks

and regards Girish

 

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ancient_indian_ astrology

Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 4:16 AM

 

 

 

Dear Santhosh

 

Negative is due to health after 2002 having BP problems,profession

al problems in job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in family health

and career.

 

Regards

Puneet Ahuja

 

--- On Mon, 30/11/09, Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

wrote:

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ancient_indian_ astrology

Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:37 PM

 

Dear Puneet, Can you please clarify the negative effect?

Is it related to marriage, children or health? Regards Santhosh

 

 

 

 

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DEAR

GIRISH

 

Place-Mumbai

 

 

Regards

 

Puneet

Ahuja

 

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Monday, 30 November, 2009, 8:25 PM

 

 

 

 

 

DEAR GIRISH

 

Thanks for your mail

 

My details are Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm

 

My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in

7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting

more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart.

 

 

Kindly give your advise for above.

 

 

Warm Regards

 

Puneet Ahuja

 

 

 

--- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon <horamag >

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Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM

 

 

 

Dear Puneet ji

Can you please give us your chart details

Thanks

Girish

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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DEAR SANTOSHJIThanks for your excellent answer and your adviseYou have rightly said that Jupiter though Neechabhanga will not give good effects it will mitigate evil effects but the sting of neecha planet will remainBut Sir in NAVAMSA Jupiter obtains his own Pisces NAVAMSA so think 60% of his evil of being neecha is lost.RegardsPuneet Ahuja --- On Tue, 1/12/09, Santhosh <santhosh wrote:Santhosh <santhoshRE: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Date: Tuesday, 1 December, 2009, 10:29 PM

 

 

 

 

Dear Puneet, You are right about neechabhanga. But you

cannot arrive at a straight forward conclusion like that. A planet gives various benefits depending

upon lot of factors. Neecha planet refuses to give the same. However, when the neecha is cancelled as

you rightly pointed out many of the benefits is recovered and still it gives

some bad effects of being in neecha. In other words it is not a perfect cancellation

and it is not the same as being in exaltation. Generally I have seen that as

far as health and physical analysis is concerned, the planet continues to give

effects of it being in neecha and other aspects such as wealth for which

Jupiter is a karaka improves with its neechabhanga. Moon being in sukla paksha dasami has

paksha bala which would be why your health problems will not be severe and when

the dasa changes to a good one it can even eliminate your health problems. I

would advice you to also check you cholesterol. As a remedy I can advice you to

take raw garlic everyday. Now this will be difficult for many people both

because of the taste and also because of the mouth odor. Hence, as an

alternative you can take garlic pearl tablet everyday (ranbaxy). I take this

for my bp and cholesterol and it is under excellent control. Best Wishes Santhosh

 

 

 

 

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DEAR SANTHOSH

 

Jupiter is neecha but it is neechabanga as Saturn

lord of sign where it is neecha is with him and lord of exaltation sign where

Jupiter exalts,Moon is in kendra from Jupiter and aspects Jupiter.

 

 

Are you suggesting that Jupiter is still neecha and

not neechabhnaga that is why it is giving bad effects in health

 

 

Regards

 

Puneet Ahuja

 

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Tuesday, 1 December, 2009, 5:40 PM

Dear

deepak,

I misstook d4. My mistake and apologies.

 

I beg to differ with you on the signification for mars. Mars signifies bone

marrow and not blood.

Bone marrow works to produce blood and it has got nothing to do with the

blood preasure. This could be due to deposits in the blood of colestrol and

fat. Thats why bp and colestrol generally come together. Jupiter signifies

fats and colestrol. You will see in his chart that ju is in neecha.

His roga time started in venus dasa which in 6h after rectification. What

roga? Because of ju, bp is definitely in picture. Ask him about colestrol

also.

By the way chandra signifies blood not moon. Here it means all liquid in the

body including blood.

I hope it is clear

Regards

Santhosh Sent

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Hi Santhosh,

 

Kindly go through my earlier mail again -

1.) D-4 Chart is not considered at all,

2.) D-9 is considered to check the strength of Sun. Anything Strange?

3.) Is it Strange to go into Shashtamsha Chart (D-6) for diseases?

// can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp //

Mars ruling muscular parts and blood should be checked for BP cases.

Best Regards,

Deepak Sharma

 

 

 

 

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Dear

deepak,

 

Thats strange going into d6 and d4. Further, can you please elucidate on the

connection between mars and bp. Where did you get it from?

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Dear Puneet Ji,

Without going into Birth time rectification / fixing of Ascendant, which may

require further inputs and study, it can be observed that -

Your BP problem is due to

debilitation of Sun in D-9 and Debilitation of Mars in D-6 Chart. Mars

being dispositor of current dasha (irrespective of ascendant) also

matters here. Weak Sun is also responsible

for Job related problems though there must be other reasons as well.

Best Regards,

Deepak Sharma

 

gopalakrishna

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To:

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Tue, December 1, 2009

6:47:41 PM

[ancient_indian_

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Dear Puneet,

according to my knowledge it will give the efects of both houses as well as

5thH since it is retro and you yourself are confirming it.Do not also forget

as you said it will give lagna/12thH afects which you also

mentioned.Anyway since it is a sandhi lagna i feel the birth time need to be

checked/rectified. ......

Love and regards,

gopi.

ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet

ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:

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> Dear Gopi

> I am getting bad effects as Venus is also retrograde and sincrely think

it is bad effects of 6 house as  if venus in 7 then it aspects lagna

then I must definitely get good effects.

> Venus Dasa started in 1993 Iit was giving good effects till 2001 after

that it has been giving bad effects ,you can say from 1993 to 2001 it gave 7

house effects and since 201 it is giving 6 house bhava effects-is  this

possible---- --------- -------Â

> RegardsPuneet Ahuja

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> --- On Mon, 30/11/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. . wrote:

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26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm  My question is since I am having Venus

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DEAR MANOJJIThanks for your excellent reply,Jupiter sub period was not totally good mixture of good and evil as you rightly saidRegardsPuneet Ahuja --- On Tue, 1/12/09, Manoj <chandran_manoj wrote:Manoj <chandran_manoj Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Date: Tuesday, 1 December, 2009, 10:26 PM

 

 

Dear Puneet Ji,

 

Neecha Bhanga is like a Prosthetic Leg. It does not mean that the Leg was not severed. So even with Neecha Bhanga, there will still be sufficient damage, it just will not be a complete disaster. Once again this is a generic comment on Neecha Bhanga, not necessairily on this specific case.

 

Regards,

 

-Manoj

 

ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:

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> DEAR SANTHOSH

> Jupiter is neecha but it is neechabanga as Saturn lord of sign where it is neecha is with him and lord of exaltation sign where Jupiter exalts,Moon is in kendra from Jupiter and aspects Jupiter.

> Are you suggesting that Jupiter is still neecha and not neechabhnaga that is why it is giving bad effects in health

> RegardsPuneet AhujaÂ

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> --- On Tue, 1/12/09, santhosh <santhosh@.. .> wrote:

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> santhosh <santhosh@.. .>

> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

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> Bone marrow works to produce blood and it has got nothing to do with the blood preasure. This could be due to deposits in the blood of colestrol and fat. Thats why bp and colestrol generally come together. Jupiter signifies fats and colestrol. You will see in his chart that ju is in neecha.

> His roga time started in venus dasa which in 6h after rectification. What roga? Because of ju, bp is definitely in picture. Ask him about colestrol also.

> By the way chandra signifies blood not moon. Here it means all liquid in the body including blood.

> I hope it is clear

> Regards

> Santhosh

> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airteldeepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ >

> Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:26:42 -0800 (PST)<ancient_indian_ astrology>Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

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> 3.) Is it Strange to go into Shashtamsha Chart (D-6) for diseases?

> // can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp //

> Mars ruling muscular parts and blood should be checked for BP cases.

> Best Regards,

> Deepak Sharma           Â

> "santhosh@sudhamayi .com" <santhosh@sudhamayi . com>

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> Regards

> Santhosh

> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airteldeepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ >

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> Love and regards,

> gopi.

> ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:

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> > Dear Gopi

> > I am getting bad effects as Venus is also retrograde and sincrely think it is bad effects of 6 house as  if venus in 7 then it aspects lagna then I must definitely get good effects.

> > Venus Dasa started in 1993 Iit was giving good effects till 2001 after that it has been giving bad effects ,you can say from 1993 to 2001 it gave 7 house effects and since 201 it is giving 6 house bhava effects-is  this possible---- ---------

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> > RegardsPuneet Ahuja

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> > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ . wrote:

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> > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ .

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

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> > Love and regards,

> > gopi.

> > ancient_indian_ astrology@

> . com, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:

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> > > DEAR GIRISH

> > > Thanks for your mailMy details are  Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm  My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart.

> > > Kindly give your advise for above.

> > > Warm RegardsPuneet AhujaÂÂÂ

> > >

> > > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon horamag@ wrote:

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> > > Girish menon horamag@

> > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

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Sir,s'

 

Lalkitab says that Sun in 6th house with a weak moon in horoscope; or with

mercury in 12th house; adversely effects heart beat;

Blood Pressure problem is pronounced.

in this case sun is in house no 6; moon in house no 10 which falls in category

of weak.

 

Regards

Kulbir

 

 

 

, deepak sharma

<deepak_rptech wrote:

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> Dear Santosh,

> Thanks for giving your further opinion.

> Moon and Mars - both signify blood (Uttarakalamrita)

> Sun, Moon, Mars, 4th House & Jupiter should be considered for BP / Heart

Problems.

> As Jupiter governs arteries, Its role is important for BP cases.

> I missed this in earlier mail - Thanks for raising this point.

> //BP Definition in this context (taken from www.mayoclinic.com)

> Blood pressure is determined by the amount of blood your heart pumps

> and the amount

> of resistance to blood flow in your arteries. The more

> blood your heart pumps and

> the narrower your arteries, the higher your

> blood pressure //

> Best Regards,

> Deepak Sharma

>

>

> ________________________________

> " santhosh " <santhosh

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> Wed, December 2, 2009 7:10:57 AM

> Re: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

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> Dear deepak,

> I misstook d4. My mistake and apologies.

>

> I beg to differ with you on the signification for mars. Mars signifies bone

marrow and not blood.

> Bone marrow works to produce blood and it has got nothing to do with the blood

preasure. This could be due to deposits in the blood of colestrol and fat. Thats

why bp and colestrol generally come together. Jupiter signifies fats and

colestrol. You will see in his chart that ju is in neecha.

> His roga time started in venus dasa which in 6h after rectification. What

roga? Because of ju, bp is definitely in picture. Ask him about colestrol also.

> By the way chandra signifies blood not moon. Here it means all liquid in the

body including blood.

> I hope it is clear

> Regards

> Santhosh

>

> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

> ________________________________

>

> deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ >

> Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:26:42 -0800 (PST)

> <ancient_indian_ astrology>

> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

>

> Hi Santhosh,

>

> Kindly go through my earlier mail again -

> 1.) D-4 Chart is not considered at all,

> 2.) D-9 is considered to check the strength of Sun. Anything Strange?

> 3.) Is it Strange to go into Shashtamsha Chart (D-6) for diseases?

> // can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp //

> Mars ruling muscular parts and blood should be checked for BP cases.

> Best Regards,

> Deepak Sharma

>

>

> ________________________________

> " santhosh@sudhamayi .com " <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> Tue, December 1, 2009 10:19:59 PM

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

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> Dear deepak,

>

> Thats strange going into d6 and d4. Further, can you please elucidate on the

connection between mars and bp. Where did you get it from?

> Regards

> Santhosh

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> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

> ________________________________

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> deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ >

> Tue, 1 Dec 2009 08:27:53 -0800 (PST)

> <ancient_indian_ astrology>

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

>

> Dear Puneet Ji,

> Without going into Birth time rectification / fixing of Ascendant, which may

> require further inputs and study, it can be observed that -

>

> * Your BP problem is due to debilitation of Sun in D-9 and Debilitation of

Marsin D-6 Chart. Mars being dispositor of current dasha (irrespective of

ascendant) also matters here.

> * Weak Sun is also responsible for Job related problems though there must be

other reasons as well.Best Regards,

> Deepak Sharma

>

>

> gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 >

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> Tue, December 1, 2009 6:47:41 PM

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

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> Dear Puneet,

> according to my knowledge it will give the efects of both houses as well as

5thH since it is retro and you yourself are confirming it.Do not also forget as

you said it will give lagna/12thH afects which you also mentioned.Anyway since

it is a sandhi lagna i feel the birth time need to be checked/rectified. ......

> Love and regards,

> gopi.

> ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@

....> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Gopi

> > I am getting bad effects as Venus is also retrograde and sincrely think it

is bad effects of 6 house as  if venus in 7 then it aspects lagna then I must

definitely get good effects.

> > Venus Dasa started in 1993 Iit was giving good effects till 2001 after that

it has been giving bad effects ,you can say from 1993 to 2001 it gave 7 house

effects and since 201 it is giving 6 house bhava effects-is  this possible----

--------- -------Â

> > RegardsPuneet Ahuja

> >

> > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ . wrote:

> >

> > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ .

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

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Bhava chart should be considered.But my personal opinion is both 6 as well as 7H

could give bad effects but those bad effects vary and you know why.....

> > Love and regards,

> > gopi.

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet ahuja

<punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > DEAR GIRISH

> > > Thanks for your mailMy details are  Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time

10.10pm  My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7

house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative

effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart.

> > > Kindly give your advise for above.

> > > Warm RegardsPuneet AhujaÂÂ

> > >

> > > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon horamag@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Girish menon horamag@

> > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology

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Dear Deepakji,

 

Thanks for your understanding. However, I still

wish to clarify that mars is not directly related to blood. Mars represents

bone marrow that produces blood as well as the RBC in the blood that gives it

the color. Generally some diseases of blood such as blood cancer are directly

connected to the RBC in the blood. That’s when mars come into picture. Moon

represents the flow ad vitality of the blood in its liquid form (sloka 29 of

uttarakalamrita) and any affliction to moon affects this flow. If you notice in

Puneet ji’s chart, moon is in papamadhyasthithi. Hence, although moon has

pakshabala it is weak because of papamadhyasthithi. This affliction of moon

with neechasthithi of guru has led to the current problem of puneetji, which

has aggravated in the period of venus which is in rogastana with vrishabha

lagna. You will also notice that for vrishabha lagna guru and venus both are maraka

grahas.

 

I am aware that sloka 33 of

uttarakalamrita mentions blood as one of the significations of mars. But as is

normal, teachings of acharyas like mihiracharya, parasharamuni etc take over

that of kalidasa when there is a conflict or doubt or clarity is required.

 

Regards

 

Santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of deepak sharma

Wednesday, December 02, 2009

12:46 PM

 

Subject:

Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Santosh,

Thanks for giving your further opinion.

Moon and Mars - both signify blood (Uttarakalamrita)

Sun, Moon, Mars, 4th House & Jupiter should be considered for BP / Heart

Problems.

As Jupiter governs arteries, Its role is important for BP cases.

I missed this in earlier mail - Thanks for raising this point.

//BP Definition in this context (taken from www.mayoclinic.com)

Blood pressure is determined by the amount of blood your heart pumps and the amount

of resistance to blood flow in your arteries. The more blood your heart pumps and

the narrower your arteries, the higher your blood pressure //

Best Regards,

Deepak Sharma

 

 

 

 

 

" santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com " <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

 

Wed, December 2, 2009

7:10:57 AM

Re:

Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

Dear

deepak,

I misstook d4. My mistake and apologies.

 

I beg to differ with you on the signification for mars. Mars signifies bone

marrow and not blood.

Bone marrow works to produce blood and it has got nothing to do with the blood

preasure. This could be due to deposits in the blood of colestrol and fat. Thats

why bp and colestrol generally come together. Jupiter signifies fats and

colestrol. You will see in his chart that ju is in neecha.

His roga time started in venus dasa which in 6h after rectification. What roga?

Because of ju, bp is definitely in picture. Ask him about colestrol also.

By the way chandra signifies blood not moon. Here it means all liquid in the

body including blood.

I hope it is clear

Regards

Santhosh

Sent from

BlackBerry® on Airtel

 

 

 

 

deepak sharma

<deepak_rptech@ >

 

 

 

Tue, 1 Dec

2009 11:26:42 -0800 (PST)

 

 

<ancient_indian_

astrology>

 

 

Re:

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Santhosh,

 

 

Kindly go through my earlier mail again -

1.) D-4 Chart is not considered at all,

2.) D-9 is considered to check the strength of Sun. Anything Strange?

3.) Is it Strange to go into Shashtamsha Chart (D-6) for diseases?

// can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp //

Mars ruling muscular parts and blood should be checked for BP cases.

Best Regards,

Deepak Sharma

 

 

 

 

 

" santhosh@sudhamayi .com " <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

ancient_indian_ astrology@

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10:19:59 PM

[ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

Dear

deepak,

 

Thats strange going into d6 and d4. Further, can you please elucidate on the

connection between mars and bp. Where did you get it from?

Regards

Santhosh

Sent from

BlackBerry® on Airtel

 

 

 

 

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<deepak_rptech@ >

 

 

 

Tue, 1 Dec

2009 08:27:53 -0800 (PST)

 

 

<ancient_indian_

astrology>

 

 

[ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Puneet Ji,

Without going into Birth time rectification / fixing of Ascendant, which may

require further inputs and study, it can be observed that -

 

Your BP problem is due to debilitation of Sun in

D-9 and Debilitation of Mars in D-6 Chart. Mars being dispositor of

current dasha (irrespective of ascendant) also matters here.

Weak Sun is also responsible for Job related

problems though there must be other reasons as well.

 

Best Regards,

Deepak Sharma

 

 

gopalakrishna

<gopi_b927 >

 

ancient_indian_

astrology

Tue, December 1, 2009

6:47:41 PM

[ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

Dear Puneet,

according to my knowledge it will give the efects of both houses as well as

5thH since it is retro and you yourself are confirming it.Do not also forget as

you said it will give lagna/12thH afects which you also mentioned.Anyway

since it is a sandhi lagna i feel the birth time need to be checked/rectified.

.......

Love and regards,

gopi.

ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet

ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Gopi

> I am getting bad effects as Venus is also retrograde and sincrely think it

is bad effects of 6 house as  if venus in 7 then it aspects lagna then I

must definitely get good effects.

> Venus Dasa started in 1993 Iit was giving good effects till 2001 after

that it has been giving bad effects ,you can say from 1993 to 2001 it gave 7

house effects and since 201 it is giving 6 house bhava effects-is  this

possible---- --------- -------Â

> RegardsPuneet Ahuja

>

> --- On Mon, 30/11/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. . wrote:

>

> gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. .

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> ancient_indian_ astrology

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then Bhava chart should be considered.But my personal opinion is both 6 as well

as 7H could give bad effects but those bad effects vary and you know why.....

> Love and regards,

> gopi.

> ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet ahuja

<punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > DEAR GIRISH

> > Thanks for your mailMy details are  Puneet Ahuja,

26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm  My question is since I am having Venus

MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I

am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart.

> > Kindly give your advise for above.

> > Warm RegardsPuneet AhujaÂÂ

> >

> > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon horamag@ wrote:

> >

> > Girish menon horamag@

> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

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Dear Deepakji,

 

//Who told you - I went straight to D-6 and D-9 without

looking at the degrees of planets,

their aspects / conjunctions etc in Natal Chart? Did I mention this anywhere?

In my two liner, I also justified that I looked into current period of native

also.

This is just to bring to your kind notice.//

 

Your post mentioned only analysis of d6 and d9 and I didn’t

see any mention of analysis of rashi and hence my comment. Your reaction shows

that I have touched a raw nerve and hence my apologies. Every astrologer has

his own way of going about looking at the chart and I have no right questing

other’s style.

 

Nevertheless, I would like to mention a few words about D6.

Can you please clarify if you got this chart from j/hora

software. Once you clarify I need to tell you something that I observed and we

can then seek clarification from seniors like sreenadhji.

 

Regards and best wishes

Santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of deepak sharma

Wednesday, December 02, 2009

2:37 PM

 

Subject:

Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Santosh,

I wonder my two liner reply brings so much of your kind attention.

I think you should go through the mail again based on which you've raised a few

 

doubts and written some good basics of astrology.

// In your analsyis you straight away went to d6 and d9 for arriving at a

conclusion //

Who told you - I went straight to D-6 and D-9 without looking at the degrees of

planets,

their aspects / conjunctions etc in Natal Chart? Did I mention this anywhere?

In my two liner, I also justified that I looked into current period of native

also.

This is just to bring to your kind notice.

// But if you cannot derive something from a rashi chart yet you see that in a

varga

position it cannot be a conclusive prediction //

I did not make any prediction in my mail. I did not even claim to analyze

something

completely as I wrote // there must be other reasons as well //

However, based on the general signications of Sun (Heart, Employment) and Mars

(Muscular system & blood) whose degrees / aspects were known based on the

given

time, I just gave couple of contibutory factors for employment and BP problem

of

the native.

And I doubt if general signication of planets and current period also get

changed

drastically with a few minutes of time difference in Natal Chart.

I also mentioned in the mail // there must be other reasons as well//

and // ...which may require further inputs and study //

Best Regards,

Deepak Sharma

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Santhosh

<santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

 

Wed, December 2, 2009

12:10:05 PM

RE:

Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

Dear Deepak,

 

Allow me to say something too on this which might be further

clarified by manojji.

 

In your analsyis you straight away went to d6 and d9 for arriving

at a conclusion. Please remember that varga positions of planets are mainly

used for assessing the strength of the planet in the rashi chart and it is used

for cross verification of points noticed in the rashi chart.

 

Your primary analysis should be based on the rashi chart and then

you can substantiate it from the varga position. But if you cannot derive

something from a rashi chart yet you see that in a varga position it cannot be

a conclusive prediction. You will notice that all along I use the phrase varga

position and not varga chart because in traditional astrology there is no such

thing as varga chart. It is available only in computer software. It is the

position of the planet in the main rashi chart when the rashi is sub-divided

into different parts which pin points an issue noticed in the rashi chart.

 

Now coming to your question in the email below. You are right just

because 6th house is weak you cannot say divorce. It has to be cross

verified with 7th house and its lord, varga positions of 7th

lord, planets in 7th house, attributes of karaka for marriage, venus

etc to arrive at a conclusion because 6th house signifies many other

things also, derived or primary.

 

Regards

 

Santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

ancient_indian_ astrology

[ancient_ indian_astrology ] On Behalf Of deepak sharma

Wednesday, December 02, 2009

10:56 AM

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

Re: [ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Manoj

Ji,

 

Thank you so

much for your valued opinion and I do agree with the rules you

mentioned.

I'm giving a hypothetical example to share my views on the subject -

If sixth house of a native is extremely weak /afflicted. Say its lord is weak

on multiple

accounts like combustion, debilitation, debilitation in D-9 & other D-

Charts, afflictions etc

Can we predict divorce or family / marriage disputes from this?

My opinion - Despite extreme afflictions or weaknesses to sixth house, the

native

may not suffer at all regarding the family matters / divorce. Native may have a

happy

married life.

Why - Because " Divorce " is not the " Primary signification "

of Sixth house.

This is a " Derived signification " based on some rules.

The Primary signfication is the " dispute / litigation " (of course

many others)

When this " dispute / litigation " has some association with the houses

/ significators

of marriage / family, a native is likely to face family or marital

disputes resulting in

divorce.

If such an extremely weak and afflicted 6th house has no association with the

houses /

significators of marriage / family, it can not give divorce or disputes among

family members.

(Please note - " Derived Significations " or " Primary

Significations " of 6th house may

not be mentioned in any of the books. I've used the terms to convey my

message.)

Best Regards,

Deepak Sharma

 

 

 

 

Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

Wed, December 2, 2009

6:21:18 AM

Re: [ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

Dear Deepak Ji,

 

Here are my views on it: 6H is 12th from the 7th. 6H is also the house of litigation.

For both these reasons it is definitely the house for divorce.

 

Now there is another contreversial rule I learned from one of my teachers. 6H

is also the house of " the other one " or the " person one is

having an affair with " . I forget the explanation for this, but apparently

Parashara mentions this in one of his shlokas. So along with the 2H, 6H also

can lead to " divorce due to interference from outside " .

 

 

 

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ >

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

Tue, December 1, 2009

1:58:17 PM

Re: [ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

Dear Santosh

Ji,

Is the Sixth house treated as " House of Divorce " as you mentioned

below?

May I ask you to throw some light upon this. Thank you.

 

 

Best

Regards,

Deepak Sharma

 

 

 

 

" santhosh@sudhamayi .com "

<santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

Tue, December 1, 2009

8:24:19 PM

Re: [ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

Thats

good surmise. That explains very well. Nevertheless, 7th lord is in the house

of divorce or marital problems. But being in own navamsha, imparts some

strength to the 7th bhava.

Regards

Santhosh

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Girish menon <horamag >

 

 

Date:

Tue, 1 Dec 2009 04:59:58 -0800 (PST)

 

 

To:

<ancient_indian_ astrology>

 

 

Subject:

Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Santosh

Interseting case

study about wrong birth time.

The time 10:10

is not correct

Within 3 minutes

23 seconds his lagna changes to scorpio

Now if we

calculate the lagna from scorpio as puneet said

Negative

is due to health after 2002 having BP problems,profession al problems in

job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in family health and career.

Gives more

clarity

Dear Puneetji

I feel the bhava

cakra is not the issue here but the wrong time which I don’t blame you

for that

Thanks and

regards

Girish

 

 

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> wrote:

 

puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com>

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

ancient_indian_ astrology

Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 4:16 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Santhosh

 

Negative is due to health after 2002 having BP problems,profession al

problems in job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in family health and career.

 

Regards

Puneet Ahuja

 

--- On Mon, 30/11/09, Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

wrote:

 

Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

ancient_indian_ astrology

Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:37 PM

 

 

 

Dear Puneet,

 

Can you please clarify the negative effect?

Is it related to marriage, children or health?

 

Regards

Santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of puneet ahuja

Tuesday, December 01,

2009 11:27 AM

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

Re: [ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

DEAR

GIRISH

 

 

 

 

Place-Mumbai

 

 

 

 

 

Regards

 

 

Puneet

Ahuja

 

--- On Mon, 30/11/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com>

wrote:

 

puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com>

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

ancient_indian_ astrology

Monday, 30 November, 2009, 8:25 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

DEAR

GIRISH

 

 

 

 

Thanks

for your mail

 

 

My

details are Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm

 

 

My

question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but

in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects

of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart.

 

 

 

 

 

Kindly

give your advise for above.

 

 

 

 

 

Warm

Regards

 

 

Puneet

Ahuja

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon <horamag >

wrote:

 

Girish menon <horamag >

Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

ancient_indian_ astrology

Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Puneet ji

Can you please give us your chart details

Thanks

Girish

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Puneetji,

 

Thankyou for your appreciation.

 

I cannot tell you in terms of percentage

but yes, the affliction of guru being in neecha is cancelled to a certain

extent because of neechabhanga as well as a better position in varga chart. However,

you will notice that guru is a maraka graham, so is shukra for Vrishabha lagna.

 

Your Venus-Mercury period will be much

better. Mercury is in 11th of Venus, Mercury is Vargotama as well as

it is lord of 11H. however, on the negative side mercury is lord of 8H. Hence,

please be careful in everything you do. A certain level of alertness and

attention to detail from your side can easily overcome the problems. Good time

to go for any land deals as well as property deals. You have to be careful

about your mother’s health also.

 

One additional negative point is Mercury

is your 22nd drekana lord.

 

Regards and Thanks

 

Santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of puneet ahuja

Wednesday, December 02, 2009

8:17 PM

 

RE:

Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

DEAR SANTOSHJI

Thanks for your excellent answer and your advise

 

You have rightly said that Jupiter though Neechabhanga will not give

good effects it will mitigate evil effects but the sting of neecha

planet will remain

 

But Sir in NAVAMSA Jupiter obtains his own Pisces NAVAMSA so think 60% of his

evil of being neecha is lost.

 

Regards

Puneet Ahuja

 

--- On Tue, 1/12/09, Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

wrote:

 

Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

RE: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

Tuesday, 1 December, 2009, 10:29 PM

 

 

 

Dear Puneet,

 

You are right about neechabhanga. But you cannot arrive at a

straight forward conclusion like that.

 

A planet gives various benefits depending upon lot of factors.

Neecha planet refuses to give the same.

 

However, when the neecha is cancelled as you rightly pointed out

many of the benefits is recovered and still it gives some bad effects of

being in neecha. In other words it is not a perfect cancellation and it is

not the same as being in exaltation. Generally I have seen that as far as

health and physical analysis is concerned, the planet continues to give

effects of it being in neecha and other aspects such as wealth for which

Jupiter is a karaka improves with its neechabhanga.

 

Moon being in sukla paksha dasami has paksha bala which would be

why your health problems will not be severe and when the dasa changes to a

good one it can even eliminate your health problems. I would advice you to

also check you cholesterol. As a remedy I can advice you to take raw garlic

everyday. Now this will be difficult for many people both because of the

taste and also because of the mouth odor. Hence, as an alternative you can

take garlic pearl tablet everyday (ranbaxy). I take this for my bp and

cholesterol and it is under excellent control.

 

Best Wishes

Santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com [ancient_ indian_astrology ] On Behalf Of puneet ahuja

Wednesday, December 02,

2009 10:57 AM

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

Re: [ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

DEAR

SANTHOSH

 

 

 

 

Jupiter

is neecha but it is neechabanga as Saturn lord of sign where it is neecha

is with him and lord of exaltation sign where Jupiter exalts,Moon is in

kendra from Jupiter and aspects Jupiter.

 

 

 

 

 

Are

you suggesting that Jupiter is still neecha and not neechabhnaga that is

why it is giving bad effects in health

 

 

 

 

 

Regards

 

 

Puneet

Ahuja

 

--- On Tue, 1/12/09, santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT)

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wrote:

 

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Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

ancient_indian_ astrology

Tuesday, 1 December, 2009, 5:40 PM

 

 

 

 

Dear

deepak,

I misstook d4. My mistake and apologies.

 

I beg to differ with you on the signification for mars. Mars signifies bone

marrow and not blood.

Bone marrow works to produce blood and it has got nothing to do with the

blood preasure. This could be due to deposits in the blood of colestrol and

fat. Thats why bp and colestrol generally come together. Jupiter signifies

fats and colestrol. You will see in his chart that ju is in neecha.

His roga time started in venus dasa which in 6h after rectification. What

roga? Because of ju, bp is definitely in picture. Ask him about colestrol

also.

By the way chandra signifies blood not moon. Here it means all liquid in

the body including blood.

I hope it is clear

Regards

Santhosh

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from BlackBerry® on Airtel

 

 

 

 

deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@

>

 

 

Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:26:42 -0800

(PST)

 

 

<ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com>

 

 

Re: [ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Santhosh,

 

 

Kindly go through my earlier mail again -

1.) D-4 Chart is not considered at all,

2.) D-9 is considered to check the strength of Sun. Anything Strange?

3.) Is it Strange to go into Shashtamsha Chart (D-6) for diseases?

// can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp //

Mars ruling muscular parts and blood should be checked for BP cases.

Best Regards,

Deepak Sharma

 

 

 

 

" santhosh@sudhamayi

..com " <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

Tue, December 1, 2009

10:19:59 PM

[ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

Dear

deepak,

 

Thats strange going into d6 and d4. Further, can you please elucidate on

the connection between mars and bp. Where did you get it from?

Regards

Santhosh

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from BlackBerry® on Airtel

 

 

 

 

deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ >

 

 

Tue, 1 Dec 2009 08:27:53 -0800

(PST)

 

 

<ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com>

 

 

[ancient_indian_ astrology]

Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Puneet Ji,

Without going into Birth time rectification / fixing of Ascendant, which

may

require further inputs and study, it can be observed that -

 

Your BP problem is due to

debilitation of Sun in D-9 and Debilitation of Mars in D-6 Chart. Mars

being dispositor of current dasha (irrespective of ascendant) also

matters here.

Weak Sun is also

responsible for Job related problems though there must be other

reasons as well.

 

Best Regards,

Deepak Sharma

 

 

gopalakrishna

<gopi_b927 >

 

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

Tue, December 1, 2009

6:47:41 PM

[ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

Dear Puneet,

according to my knowledge it will give the efects of both houses as well as

5thH since it is retro and you yourself are confirming it.Do not also

forget as you said it will give lagna/12thH afects which you also

mentioned.Anyway since it is a sandhi lagna i feel the birth time need to

be checked/rectified. ......

Love and regards,

gopi.

ancient_indian_ astrology,

puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Gopi

> I am getting bad effects as Venus is also retrograde and sincrely

think it is bad effects of 6 house as  if venus in 7 then it aspects

lagna then I must definitely get good effects.

> Venus Dasa started in 1993 Iit was giving good effects till 2001 after

that it has been giving bad effects ,you can say from 1993 to 2001 it gave

7 house effects and since 201 it is giving 6 house bhava effects-is

 this possible---- --------- -------Â

> RegardsPuneet Ahuja

>

> --- On Mon, 30/11/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. . wrote:

>

> gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. .

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6 as well as 7H could give bad effects but those bad effects vary and you

know why.....

> Love and regards,

> gopi.

> ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet ahuja

<punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:

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> > DEAR GIRISH

> > Thanks for your mailMy details are  Puneet Ahuja,

26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm  My question is since I am having

Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I

feel that I am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per

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Dear Puneetji,

 

Thanks for the details.

 

Although I feel scorpio lagna better

explains your life story, I am not an expert in brith time rectification. I

feel someone like Neelamji is better positioned to do this. I hope she helps

you to ascertain the correct lagna.

 

Further I have been noticing some inconsistencies

in the dasa periods mentioned. Which software have you used to arrive at the

dasa periods? You mercury dasa starts in December 1969 as per j/hora. Similarly

ketu-mars is from June 1989.

 

Any children from your first marriage? Any

children now from your second marriage? What were you working as?

 

Regards’

 

Santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of puneet ahuja

Wednesday, December 02, 2009

8:10 PM

 

RE:

Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear SANTOSHJI

 

As my Mercury dasa started in end Dec71 my father who was working in Airlines

got promoted to GM and we were transferred to Delhi.

I completed my education graduation,MBA in Mercury Dasa ,bought a house where

I was staying for 10 years in 1985 during Mercury-Saturn in 1985 got married

had a love affair and got married in OCT 1986.

 

Ketu dasa was very very bad had a divorce in Ketu-MARS in 1988, our tenants

with help of some high official filed a criminal case against me and my

father regarding our house.

We had to leave our house and stay in a rented place

During Nov89 we sold our old house and bought a new luxury flat where I am

staying since last 20 years.

During Ketu-Rahu Got remarried ,loss of issue was in OCT 1992

Ketu Dasa was very very bad which shows bad effects of Ketu in 5 if you take

Libra lagna

 

During Venus-Venus end it gave us inheritance of big money from my

uncle who had expired and left his property in my fathers name. .

Venus was very good till 2001 ,Bad period started from Venus-RAHU,Venus

-jupiter Venus-Saturn was okay gave me a overseas trip to Doha for my job.

Having lot of hopes on Venus-Mercury starting from 19dec2009.

 

Mercury Dasa has given ,more of Lbra LAGNA effects,love affair into marriage

and loss of marriage by Ketu in 5 and loss of issue by Ketu in 5.

 

I have just given you my details so that you can understand better

--- On Tue, 1/12/09, Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

wrote:

 

Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

RE: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

Tuesday, 1 December, 2009, 10:55 PM

 

 

 

Dear Puneet,

 

//But if we take

Scorpio lagna then my Mercury dasa which was excellent cannot be

explained with Scorpio lagna.//

 

Let us consider

this. Can you break this period of mercury dasa into 2 and tell me which half

was better. Further, when you say excellent, in what terms it was excellent

we can then possibly arrive at a satisfactory answer.

 

Where you

employed in Govt service? And was it a uniformed service?

 

Regards

 

Santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ancient_indian_ astrology@

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Wednesday, December 02,

2009 9:49 AM

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Re: [ancient_indian_

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DEAR

Deepakji/Manojji/ Santhoshji/ Girishji

 

 

 

 

Time

has been correctly recorded at the hospital when I was born,have rechecked

the same By your views, I think you are suggesting that my lagna is Scorpio

and Venus as 6 lord is giiving me bad effects.

 

 

Sun

would become strong as for Scorpio lagna ,it is lord of 10 placed in 5 and

RAHU is placed in 10 house in house of Sun that way carrer wouls have

been good if it is Scorpio lagna.

 

 

Yes

Sun being neecha in navamsa makes it weak and I have to be very very

careful in Sun dasa starting in 2013 from litigation,bad luck and health

problems.

 

 

 

 

 

But

if we take Scorpio lagna then my Mercury dasa which was excellent

cannot be explained with Scorpio lagna.

 

 

 

 

 

Kindly

give your views for the above

 

 

 

 

 

Warm

Regards

 

 

Puneet

Ahuja

--- On Tue, 1/12/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >

wrote:

 

Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >

Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

ancient_indian_ astrology

Tuesday, 1 December, 2009, 4:51 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear

Deepak Ji,

 

Here are my views on it: 6H is 12th from the 7th. 6H is also the house of

litigation. For both these reasons it is definitely the house for divorce.

 

Now there is another contreversial rule I learned from one of my teachers.

6H is also the house of " the other one " or the " person

one is having an affair with " . I forget the explanation for this, but

apparently Parashara mentions this in one of his shlokas. So along with the

2H, 6H also can lead to " divorce due to interference from outside " .

 

 

 

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

deepak sharma

<deepak_rptech@ >

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

Tue, December 1, 2009

1:58:17 PM

Re: [ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

Dear Santosh Ji,

Is the Sixth house treated as " House of Divorce " as you mentioned

below?

May I ask you to throw some light upon this. Thank you.

 

 

Best Regards,

Deepak Sharma

 

 

 

 

" santhosh@sudhamayi

..com " <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

Tue, December 1, 2009

8:24:19 PM

Re: [ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

Thats

good surmise. That explains very well. Nevertheless, 7th lord is in the

house of divorce or marital problems. But being in own navamsha, imparts

some strength to the 7th bhava.

Regards

Santhosh

Sent

from BlackBerry® on Airtel

 

 

 

 

Girish menon <horamag (AT) (DOT)

com>

 

 

Tue, 1 Dec 2009 04:59:58 -0800

(PST)

 

 

<ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com>

 

 

Re: [ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear

Santosh

Interseting

case study about wrong birth time.

The

time 10:10 is not correct

Within

3 minutes 23 seconds his lagna changes to scorpio

Now

if we calculate the lagna from scorpio as puneet said

Negative

is due to health after 2002 having BP problems,profession al problems in

job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in family health and career.

Gives

more clarity

Dear

Puneetji

I

feel the bhava cakra is not the issue here but the wrong time which I

don’t blame you for that

Thanks

and regards

Girish

 

 

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> wrote:

 

puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com>

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

ancient_indian_ astrology

Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 4:16 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Santhosh

 

Negative is due to health after 2002 having BP

problems,profession al problems in job,whatever I am doing I face a

problem,in family health and career.

 

Regards

Puneet Ahuja

 

--- On Mon, 30/11/09, Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

wrote:

 

Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

ancient_indian_ astrology

Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:37 PM

 

 

 

Dear Puneet,

 

Can you please clarify the negative

effect? Is it related to marriage, children or health?

 

Regards

Santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ancient_indian_ astrology [ ancient_indian_

astrology ] On

Behalf Of puneet ahuja

Tuesday, December

01, 2009 11:27 AM

ancient_indian_

astrology

Re:

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

DEAR GIRISH

 

 

 

 

Place-Mumbai

 

 

 

 

 

Regards

 

 

Puneet Ahuja

 

--- On Mon, 30/11/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com>

wrote:

 

puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com>

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

ancient_indian_ astrology

Monday, 30 November, 2009, 8:25 PM

 

 

 

 

 

DEAR GIRISH

 

 

 

 

Thanks for your mail

 

 

My details are Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm

 

 

 

My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is

in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am

getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava

chart.

 

 

 

 

 

Kindly give your advise for above.

 

 

 

 

 

Warm Regards

 

 

Puneet Ahuja

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish

menon <horamag >

wrote:

 

Girish menon <horamag >

Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

ancient_indian_ astrology

Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Puneet ji

Can you please give us your chart details

Thanks

Girish

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Santosh Ji,I do agree with your view about the significations of Moon and Marsand appreciate your knowledge on the subject.Moon should be given more weightage than Mars for "blood" and you rightly said "Moon

represents the flow ad vitality of the blood in its liquid form". However, if we do not even relate "blood" with Marsat all, role of Mars is still important for BP / Cardiac cases as it rules Muscular parts also (mentioned in my first mail of this thread).I'm presenting below notes of a medical research to make youunderstand why I suggested Mars for BP / Cardiac problems -==>>Heart failure occurs when cardiac muscle is damaged and scartissue

replaces beating cardiac muscle cells.==>>Bone marrow extract is

just as effective as bone marrow stem cellsfor improving cardiac function, particularly

after a heart attack.Even in the process of High / low BP, muscular system cant be ignored.Best Regards,Deepak SharmaSanthosh <santhosh Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009 10:57:03 AMRE: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

Dear Deepakji, Thanks for your understanding. However, I still

wish to clarify that mars is not directly related to blood. Mars represents

bone marrow that produces blood as well as the RBC in the blood that gives it

the color. Generally some diseases of blood such as blood cancer are directly

connected to the RBC in the blood. That’s when mars come into picture. Moon

represents the flow ad vitality of the blood in its liquid form (sloka 29 of

uttarakalamrita) and any affliction to moon affects this flow. If you notice in

Puneet ji’s chart, moon is in papamadhyasthithi. Hence, although moon has

pakshabala it is weak because of papamadhyasthithi. This affliction of moon

with neechasthithi of guru has led to the current problem of puneetji, which

has aggravated in the period of venus which is in rogastana with vrishabha

lagna. You will also notice that for vrishabha lagna guru and venus both are maraka

grahas. I am aware that sloka 33 of

uttarakalamrita mentions blood as one of the significations of mars. But as is

normal, teachings of acharyas like mihiracharya, parasharamuni etc take over

that of kalidasa when there is a conflict or doubt or clarity is required. Regards Santhosh

 

 

 

ancient_indian_ astrology [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of deepak sharma

Wednesday, December 02, 2009

12:46 PM

ancient_indian_ astrology

Subject:

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

Dear Santosh,

Thanks for giving your further opinion.

Moon and Mars - both signify blood (Uttarakalamrita)

Sun, Moon, Mars, 4th House & Jupiter should be considered for BP / Heart

Problems.

As Jupiter governs arteries, Its role is important for BP cases.

I missed this in earlier mail - Thanks for raising this point.

//BP Definition in this context (taken from www.mayoclinic. com)

Blood pressure is determined by the amount of blood your heart pumps and the amount

of resistance to blood flow in your arteries. The more blood your heart pumps and

the narrower your arteries, the higher your blood pressure //

Best Regards,

Deepak Sharma

 

 

 

 

"santhosh@sudhamayi .com" <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

ancient_indian_ astrology

Wed, December 2, 2009

7:10:57 AM

Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology]

Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

Dear

deepak,

I misstook d4. My mistake and apologies.

 

I beg to differ with you on the signification for mars. Mars signifies bone

marrow and not blood.

Bone marrow works to produce blood and it has got nothing to do with the blood

preasure. This could be due to deposits in the blood of colestrol and fat. Thats

why bp and colestrol generally come together. Jupiter signifies fats and

colestrol. You will see in his chart that ju is in neecha.

His roga time started in venus dasa which in 6h after rectification. What roga?

Because of ju, bp is definitely in picture. Ask him about colestrol also.

By the way chandra signifies blood not moon. Here it means all liquid in the

body including blood.

I hope it is clear

Regards

Santhosh Sent from

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deepak sharma

<deepak_rptech@ >

 

 

Tue, 1 Dec

2009 11:26:42 -0800 (PST)

 

<ancient_indian_

astrology>

 

Re:

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

Hi Santhosh,

 

Kindly go through my earlier mail again -

1.) D-4 Chart is not considered at all,

2.) D-9 is considered to check the strength of Sun. Anything Strange?

3.) Is it Strange to go into Shashtamsha Chart (D-6) for diseases?

// can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp //

Mars ruling muscular parts and blood should be checked for BP cases.

Best Regards,

Deepak Sharma

 

 

 

 

"santhosh@sudhamayi .com" <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

Tue, December 1, 2009

10:19:59 PM

[ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

Dear

deepak,

 

Thats strange going into d6 and d4. Further, can you please elucidate on the

connection between mars and bp. Where did you get it from?

Regards

Santhosh Sent from

BlackBerry® on Airtel

 

 

 

deepak sharma

<deepak_rptech@ >

 

 

Tue, 1 Dec

2009 08:27:53 -0800 (PST)

 

<ancient_indian_

astrology>

 

[ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

Dear Puneet Ji,

Without going into Birth time rectification / fixing of Ascendant, which may

require further inputs and study, it can be observed that -

Your BP problem is due to debilitation of Sun in

D-9 and Debilitation of Mars in D-6 Chart. Mars being dispositor of

current dasha (irrespective of ascendant) also matters here.

Weak Sun is also responsible for Job related

problems though there must be other reasons as well.

Best Regards,

Deepak Sharma

 

gopalakrishna

<gopi_b927 >

ancient_indian_

astrology

Tue, December 1, 2009

6:47:41 PM

[ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

Dear Puneet,

according to my knowledge it will give the efects of both houses as well as

5thH since it is retro and you yourself are confirming it.Do not also forget as

you said it will give lagna/12thH afects which you also mentioned.Anyway

since it is a sandhi lagna i feel the birth time need to be checked/rectified.

.......

Love and regards,

gopi.

ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet

ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Gopi

> I am getting bad effects as Venus is also retrograde and sincrely think it

is bad effects of 6 house as  if venus in 7 then it aspects lagna then I

must definitely get good effects.

> Venus Dasa started in 1993 Iit was giving good effects till 2001 after

that it has been giving bad effects ,you can say from 1993 to 2001 it gave 7

house effects and since 201 it is giving 6 house bhava effects-is  this

possible---- --------- -------Â

> RegardsPuneet Ahuja

>

> --- On Mon, 30/11/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. . wrote:

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as 7H could give bad effects but those bad effects vary and you know why.....

> Love and regards,

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> ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet ahuja

<punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:

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> > Thanks for your mailMy details are  Puneet Ahuja,

26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm  My question is since I am having Venus

MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I

am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart.

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Dear Santhosh Ji,Thank you so much for your warm reply and kind understanding.I used Parashara Light version 6.1 for this chart. Sometimes I use J.hora.Look forward to your valued opinion about D-6 / J. hora as youmentioned. Thanks again.Best Regards,Deepak SharmaSanthosh <santhosh Sent: Thu,

December 3, 2009 11:04:07 AMRE: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

Dear Deepakji, //Who told you - I went straight to D-6 and D-9 without

looking at the degrees of planets,

their aspects / conjunctions etc in Natal Chart? Did I mention this anywhere?

In my two liner, I also justified that I looked into current period of native

also.

This is just to bring to your kind notice.// Your post mentioned only analysis of d6 and d9 and I didn’t

see any mention of analysis of rashi and hence my comment. Your reaction shows

that I have touched a raw nerve and hence my apologies. Every astrologer has

his own way of going about looking at the chart and I have no right questing

other’s style. Nevertheless, I would like to mention a few words about D6. Can you please clarify if you got this chart from j/hora

software. Once you clarify I need to tell you something that I observed and we

can then seek clarification from seniors like sreenadhji. Regards and best wishes Santhosh

 

 

 

 

ancient_indian_ astrology [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of deepak sharma

Wednesday, December 02, 2009

2:37 PM

ancient_indian_ astrology

Subject:

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

Dear Santosh,

I wonder my two liner reply brings so much of your kind attention.

I think you should go through the mail again based on which you've raised a few

 

doubts and written some good basics of astrology.

// In your analsyis you straight away went to d6 and d9 for arriving at a

conclusion //

Who told you - I went straight to D-6 and D-9 without looking at the degrees of

planets,

their aspects / conjunctions etc in Natal Chart? Did I mention this anywhere?

In my two liner, I also justified that I looked into current period of native

also.

This is just to bring to your kind notice.

// But if you cannot derive something from a rashi chart yet you see that in a

varga

position it cannot be a conclusive prediction //

I did not make any prediction in my mail. I did not even claim to analyze

something

completely as I wrote // there must be other reasons as well //

However, based on the general signications of Sun (Heart, Employment) and Mars

(Muscular system & blood) whose degrees / aspects were known based on the

given

time, I just gave couple of contibutory factors for employment and BP problem

of

the native.

And I doubt if general signication of planets and current period also get

changed

drastically with a few minutes of time difference in Natal Chart.

I also mentioned in the mail // there must be other reasons as well//

and // ...which may require further inputs and study //

Best Regards,

Deepak Sharma

 

 

 

 

Santhosh

<santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

ancient_indian_ astrology

Wed, December 2, 2009

12:10:05 PM

RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology]

Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

Dear Deepak, Allow me to say something too on this which might be further

clarified by manojji. In your analsyis you straight away went to d6 and d9 for arriving

at a conclusion. Please remember that varga positions of planets are mainly

used for assessing the strength of the planet in the rashi chart and it is used

for cross verification of points noticed in the rashi chart. Your primary analysis should be based on the rashi chart and then

you can substantiate it from the varga position. But if you cannot derive

something from a rashi chart yet you see that in a varga position it cannot be

a conclusive prediction. You will notice that all along I use the phrase varga

position and not varga chart because in traditional astrology there is no such

thing as varga chart. It is available only in computer software. It is the

position of the planet in the main rashi chart when the rashi is sub-divided

into different parts which pin points an issue noticed in the rashi chart. Now coming to your question in the email below. You are right just

because 6th house is weak you cannot say divorce. It has to be cross

verified with 7th house and its lord, varga positions of 7th

lord, planets in 7th house, attributes of karaka for marriage, venus

etc to arrive at a conclusion because 6th house signifies many other

things also, derived or primary. Regards Santhosh

 

 

 

ancient_indian_ astrology

[ancient_ indian_astrology ] On Behalf Of deepak sharma

Wednesday, December 02, 2009

10:56 AM

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

Re: [ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

Dear Manoj

Ji,

Thank you so

much for your valued opinion and I do agree with the rules you

mentioned.

I'm giving a hypothetical example to share my views on the subject -

If sixth house of a native is extremely weak /afflicted. Say its lord is weak

on multiple

accounts like combustion, debilitation, debilitation in D-9 & other D-

Charts, afflictions etc

Can we predict divorce or family / marriage disputes from this?

My opinion - Despite extreme afflictions or weaknesses to sixth house, the

native

may not suffer at all regarding the family matters / divorce. Native may have a

happy

married life.

Why - Because "Divorce" is not the "Primary signification"

of Sixth house.

This is a "Derived signification" based on some rules.

The Primary signfication is the "dispute / litigation" (of course

many others)

When this "dispute / litigation" has some association with the houses

/ significators

of marriage / family, a native is likely to face family or marital

disputes resulting in

divorce.

If such an extremely weak and afflicted 6th house has no association with the

houses /

significators of marriage / family, it can not give divorce or disputes among

family members.

(Please note - "Derived Significations" or "Primary

Significations" of 6th house may

not be mentioned in any of the books. I've used the terms to convey my

message.)

Best Regards,

Deepak Sharma

 

 

 

Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

Wed, December 2, 2009

6:21:18 AM

Re: [ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

Dear Deepak Ji,

 

Here are my views on it: 6H is 12th from the 7th. 6H is also the house of litigation.

For both these reasons it is definitely the house for divorce.

 

Now there is another contreversial rule I learned from one of my teachers. 6H

is also the house of "the other one" or the "person one is

having an affair with". I forget the explanation for this, but apparently

Parashara mentions this in one of his shlokas. So along with the 2H, 6H also

can lead to "divorce due to interference from outside".

Regards, -Manoj

 

 

 

 

deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ >

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

Tue, December 1, 2009

1:58:17 PM

Re: [ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

Dear Santosh

Ji,

Is the Sixth house treated as "House of Divorce" as you mentioned

below?

May I ask you to throw some light upon this. Thank you.

 

Best

Regards,

Deepak Sharma

 

 

 

"santhosh@sudhamayi .com"

<santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

Tue, December 1, 2009

8:24:19 PM

Re: [ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

Thats

good surmise. That explains very well. Nevertheless, 7th lord is in the house

of divorce or marital problems. But being in own navamsha, imparts some

strength to the 7th bhava.

Regards

Santhosh Sent from

BlackBerry® on Airtel

 

 

 

 

Girish menon <horamag >

 

Date:

Tue, 1 Dec 2009 04:59:58 -0800 (PST)

 

To:

<ancient_indian_ astrology>

 

Subject:

Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

Dear Santosh Interseting case

study about wrong birth time. The time 10:10

is not correct Within 3 minutes

23 seconds his lagna changes to scorpio Now if we

calculate the lagna from scorpio as puneet said Negative

is due to health after 2002 having BP problems,profession al problems in

job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in family health and career. Gives more

clarity Dear Puneetji I feel the bhava

cakra is not the issue here but the wrong time which I don’t blame you

for that Thanks and

regards Girish

 

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> wrote:

puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com>

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

ancient_indian_ astrology

Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 4:16 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Santhosh

 

Negative is due to health after 2002 having BP problems,profession al

problems in job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in family health and career.

 

Regards

Puneet Ahuja

 

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Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:37 PM

 

Dear Puneet, Can you please clarify the negative effect?

Is it related to marriage, children or health? Regards Santhosh

 

 

 

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Tuesday, December 01,

2009 11:27 AM

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DEAR

GIRISH

 

Place-Mumbai

 

 

Regards

 

Puneet

Ahuja

 

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Monday, 30 November, 2009, 8:25 PM

 

 

 

 

 

DEAR

GIRISH

 

Thanks

for your mail

 

My

details are Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm

 

My

question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but

in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects

of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart.

 

 

Kindly

give your advise for above.

 

 

Warm

Regards

 

Puneet

Ahuja

 

 

 

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Dear Puneet ji

Can you please give us your chart details

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Dear puneethjiYour venus mercury dash will be good. Rahu in 10th represents foriegn. Mercury aspecting rahu and 12th house also representing abroad has the aspect of venus and 12th lord in 6 is again a vipareeth raja yoga.Best of luckRegardsGirish--- On Wed, 12/2/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003 wrote:puneet ahuja <punsoft2003Re: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 6:28 AM

 

 

Dear GirishYou are absolutely correct so hence forth do I take my lagna as Scorpio but Mercury is not pure benefic it is also lord of 8 besides being lord of 11.How will Venus-Mercury period go starting from 19Dec2009,any overseas job oppurtunity- --RegardsPuneet Ahuja --- On Tue, 1/12/09, Girish menon <horamag > wrote:Girish menon <horamag >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRAancient_indian_ astrologyTuesday, 1 December, 2009, 11:32

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Dear PuneethjiMercury dasha was good because of Me is in kendra from scorpio lagna and also it is vargottamaRegardsGirish--- On Tue, 12/1/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> wrote:puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com>Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRAancient_indian_ astrologyTuesday, December 1, 2009, 9:27 PM

 

 

DEAR SANTHOSHJupiter is neecha but it is neechabanga as Saturn lord of sign where it is neecha is with him and lord of exaltation sign where Jupiter exalts,Moon is in kendra from Jupiter and aspects Jupiter.Are you suggesting that Jupiter is still neecha and not neechabhnaga that is why it is giving bad effects in healthRegardsPuneet Ahuja --- On Tue, 1/12/09, santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> wrote:santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT)

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Dear deepak,I misstook d4. My mistake and apologies.I beg to differ with you on the signification for mars. Mars signifies bone marrow and not blood.Bone marrow works to produce blood and it has got nothing to do with the blood preasure. This could be due to deposits in the blood of colestrol and fat. Thats why bp and colestrol generally come together. Jupiter signifies fats and colestrol. You will see in his chart that ju is in neecha.His roga time started in venus dasa which in 6h after rectification. What roga? Because of ju, bp is definitely in picture. Ask him about colestrol also.By the way chandra signifies blood not moon. Here it means all liquid in the body including blood.I hope it is clearRegardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ >

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Hi Santhosh,Kindly go through my earlier mail again -1.) D-4 Chart is not considered at all,2.) D-9 is considered to check the strength of Sun. Anything Strange?3.) Is it Strange to go into Shashtamsha Chart (D-6) for diseases?// can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp //Mars ruling muscular parts and blood should be checked for BP cases.Best Regards,Deepak Sharma "santhosh@sudhamayi .com" <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>ancient_indian_ astrologyTue, December 1, 2009 10:19:59 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

Dear deepak,Thats strange going into d6 and d4. Further, can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp. Where did you get it from?RegardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ >

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Dear Puneet Ji,Without going into Birth time rectification / fixing of Ascendant, which mayrequire further inputs and study, it can be observed that -Your BP problem is due to debilitation of Sun in D-9 and Debilitation of Mars in D-6 Chart. Mars being dispositor of current dasha (irrespective of ascendant) also matters here. Weak Sun is also responsible for Job related problems though there must be other reasons as well.Best Regards,Deepak Sharmagopalakrishna <gopi_b927 >ancient_indian_ astrologyTue, December 1, 2009 6:47:41 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

Dear Puneet,according to my knowledge it will give the efects of both houses as well as 5thH since it is retro and you yourself are confirming it.Do not also forget as you said it will give lagna/12thH afects which you also mentioned.Anyway since it is a sandhi lagna i feel the birth time need to be checked/rectified. ......Love and regards,gopi.ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Gopi> I am getting bad effects as Venus is also retrograde and sincrely think it is bad effects of 6 house as  if venus in 7 then it aspects lagna then I must definitely get good effects.> Venus Dasa started in 1993 Iit was giving good effects till 2001 after that it has been giving bad effects ,you can say from 1993 to 2001 it gave 7 house effects and since 201 it is giving 6 house bhava effects-is  this possible---- ---------

-------Â > RegardsPuneet Ahuja> > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. . wrote:> > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. .> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> ancient_indian_ astrology> Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:45 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji,> Are you really getting bad effects is the crux of the matter.If so only then Bhava chart should be considered.But my personal opinion is both 6 as well as 7H could give bad effects but those bad effects vary and you know why.....> Love and regards,> gopi.> ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:> >> > DEAR GIRISH> > Thanks for your mailMy details are  Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm  My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart.> > Kindly give your advise for above.> > Warm RegardsPuneet Ahuja > > > > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon horamag@ wrote:> > > > Girish menon horamag@> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Dear deepakji,I am traveling now and hence cannot refer chart or books. So i would like you to do something for me. In j hora, d6 is mentioned as shastamsha.If you go back to your list of 16 vargas as per parashara, there is no shastamsha and there is only shashiamsha which is division of 60 and not 6.So this chart in j hora is confusing me. Now in the 16 vargas there is one named trimshamsa, which division of rashi into 6 unequal parts according to a special formula and it is looked for evils and diseases. Now is this what j hora considers too and have they used a different name? If so pls check if the chart is as per this special formula for trimshamsha.Thanks and regardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel deepak sharma <deepak_rptechWed, 2 Dec 2009 22:59:31 -0800 (PST)Re: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Santhosh Ji,Thank you so much for your warm reply and kind understanding.I used Parashara Light version 6.1 for this chart. Sometimes I use J.hora.Look forward to your valued opinion about D-6 / J. hora as youmentioned. Thanks again.Best Regards,Deepak SharmaSanthosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> Sent: Thu,December 3, 2009 11:04:07 AMRE: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Deepakji, //Who told you - I went straight to D-6 and D-9 withoutlooking at the degrees of planets,their aspects / conjunctions etc in Natal Chart? Did I mention this anywhere?In my two liner, I also justified that I looked into current period of nativealso.This is just to bring to your kind notice.// Your post mentioned only analysis of d6 and d9 and I didn’tsee any mention of analysis of rashi and hence my comment. Your reaction showsthat I have touched a raw nerve and hence my apologies. Every astrologer hashis own way of going about looking at the chart and I have no right questingother’s style. Nevertheless, I would like to mention a few words about D6. Can you please clarify if you got this chart from j/horasoftware. Once you clarify I need to tell you something that I observed and wecan then seek clarification from seniors like sreenadhji. Regards and best wishes Santhosh ancient_indian_ astrology [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of deepak sharmaWednesday, December 02, 20092:37 PMancient_indian_ astrologySubject:[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Santosh,I wonder my two liner reply brings so much of your kind attention.I think you should go through the mail again based on which you've raised a fewdoubts and written some good basics of astrology.// In your analsyis you straight away went to d6 and d9 for arriving at aconclusion //Who told you - I went straight to D-6 and D-9 without looking at the degrees ofplanets,their aspects / conjunctions etc in Natal Chart? Did I mention this anywhere?In my two liner, I also justified that I looked into current period of nativealso.This is just to bring to your kind notice.// But if you cannot derive something from a rashi chart yet you see that in avargaposition it cannot be a conclusive prediction //I did not make any prediction in my mail. I did not even claim to analyzesomethingcompletely as I wrote // there must be other reasons as well //However, based on the general signications of Sun (Heart, Employment) and Mars(Muscular system & blood) whose degrees / aspects were known based on thegiventime, I just gave couple of contibutory factors for employment and BP problemofthe native. And I doubt if general signication of planets and current period also getchangeddrastically with a few minutes of time difference in Natal Chart.I also mentioned in the mail // there must be other reasons as well//and // ...which may require further inputs and study //Best Regards,Deepak Sharma Santhosh<santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>ancient_indian_ astrologyWed, December 2, 200912:10:05 PMRE: [ancient_indian_ astrology]Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Deepak, Allow me to say something too on this which might be furtherclarified by manojji. In your analsyis you straight away went to d6 and d9 for arrivingat a conclusion. Please remember that varga positions of planets are mainlyused for assessing the strength of the planet in the rashi chart and it is usedfor cross verification of points noticed in the rashi chart. Your primary analysis should be based on the rashi chart and thenyou can substantiate it from the varga position. But if you cannot derivesomething from a rashi chart yet you see that in a varga position it cannot bea conclusive prediction. You will notice that all along I use the phrase vargaposition and not varga chart because in traditional astrology there is no suchthing as varga chart. It is available only in computer software. It is theposition of the planet in the main rashi chart when the rashi is sub-dividedinto different parts which pin points an issue noticed in the rashi chart. Now coming to your question in the email below. You are right justbecause 6th house is weak you cannot say divorce. It has to be crossverified with 7th house and its lord, varga positions of 7thlord, planets in 7th house, attributes of karaka for marriage, venusetc to arrive at a conclusion because 6th house signifies many otherthings also, derived or primary. Regards Santhosh ancient_indian_ astrology[ancient_ indian_astrology ] On Behalf Of deepak sharmaWednesday, December 02, 200910:56 AMancient_indian_ astrology Re: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear ManojJi, Thank you somuch for your valued opinion and I do agree with the rules you mentioned.I'm giving a hypothetical example to share my views on the subject -If sixth house of a native is extremely weak /afflicted. Say its lord is weakon multiple accounts like combustion, debilitation, debilitation in D-9 & other D-Charts, afflictions etc Can we predict divorce or family / marriage disputes from this?My opinion - Despite extreme afflictions or weaknesses to sixth house, thenative may not suffer at all regarding the family matters / divorce. Native may have ahappymarried life.Why - Because "Divorce" is not the "Primary signification"of Sixth house.This is a "Derived signification" based on some rules.The Primary signfication is the "dispute / litigation" (of coursemany others)When this "dispute / litigation" has some association with the houses/ significatorsof marriage / family, a native is likely to face family or maritaldisputes resulting indivorce.If such an extremely weak and afflicted 6th house has no association with thehouses /significators of marriage / family, it can not give divorce or disputes amongfamily members.(Please note - "Derived Significations" or "PrimarySignifications" of 6th house maynot be mentioned in any of the books. I've used the terms to convey mymessage.)Best Regards,Deepak Sharma Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >ancient_indian_ astrology Wed, December 2, 20096:21:18 AMRe: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Deepak Ji,Here are my views on it: 6H is 12th from the 7th. 6H is also the house of litigation.For both these reasons it is definitely the house for divorce.Now there is another contreversial rule I learned from one of my teachers. 6His also the house of "the other one" or the "person one ishaving an affair with". I forget the explanation for this, but apparentlyParashara mentions this in one of his shlokas. So along with the 2H, 6H alsocan lead to "divorce due to interference from outside". Regards, -Manoj deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ >ancient_indian_ astrology Tue, December 1, 20091:58:17 PMRe: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear SantoshJi,Is the Sixth house treated as "House of Divorce" as you mentionedbelow?May I ask you to throw some light upon this. Thank you. BestRegards,Deepak Sharma "santhosh@sudhamayi .com"<santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>ancient_indian_ astrology Tue, December 1, 20098:24:19 PMRe: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Thatsgood surmise. That explains very well. Nevertheless, 7th lord is in the houseof divorce or marital problems. But being in own navamsha, imparts somestrength to the 7th bhava.RegardsSanthosh Sent fromBlackBerry® on Airtel Girish menon <horamag > Date:Tue, 1 Dec 2009 04:59:58 -0800 (PST) To:<ancient_indian_ astrology> Subject:Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Santosh Interseting casestudy about wrong birth time. The time 10:10is not correct Within 3 minutes23 seconds his lagna changes to scorpio Now if wecalculate the lagna from scorpio as puneet said Negative is due to health after 2002 having BP problems,profession al problems injob,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in family health and career. Gives moreclarity Dear Puneetji I feel the bhavacakra is not the issue here but the wrong time which I don’t blame youfor that Thanks andregards Girish --- On Tue, 12/1/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> wrote: puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRAancient_indian_ astrologyTuesday, December 1, 2009, 4:16 AM Dear SanthoshNegative is due to health after 2002 having BP problems,profession alproblems in job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in family health and career.RegardsPuneet Ahuja--- On Mon, 30/11/09, Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>wrote: Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRAancient_indian_ astrologyMonday, 30 November, 2009, 10:37 PM Dear Puneet, Can you please clarify the negative effect?Is it related to marriage, children or health? Regards Santhosh ancient_indian_ astrology [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of puneet ahujaTuesday, December 01,2009 11:27 AMancient_indian_ astrology Re: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA DEARGIRISH Place-Mumbai Regards PuneetAhuja--- On Mon, 30/11/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com>wrote: puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRAancient_indian_ astrologyMonday, 30 November, 2009, 8:25 PM DEARGIRISH Thanksfor your mail Mydetails are Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm Myquestion is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house butin bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effectsof Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart. Kindlygive your advise for above. WarmRegards PuneetAhuja --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon <horamag >wrote: Girish menon <horamag >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRAancient_indian_ astrologyMonday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM Dear Puneet jiCan you please give us your chart detailsThanks Girish TheINTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Novirus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.87/2536 - Release 12/01/0902:35:00 TheINTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Novirus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.89/2539 - Release 12/02/0901:02:00 Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.89/2539 - Release 12/02/09 01:02:00

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dear SantoshIf you go back to your list of 16 vargas as per parashara, there is no shastamshaYou are rightMaitreya supports in addition, Sastamsa (D6) and Ashtamsa (D8)

of Jaimini system.In parashara software it is also called sastamsaRegardsGirish

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Dear Santhosh Ji,Girish Ji has replied about your doubt.D-30 (trimsamsa) & D-6 (shashthamsa) are considered in both S/Ws. Best Regards,Deepak Sharma"santhosh" <santhosh Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009 1:20:47 PMRe:

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Dear deepakji,I am traveling now and hence cannot refer chart or books. So i would like you to do something for me. In j hora, d6 is mentioned as shastamsha.If you go back to your list of 16 vargas as per parashara, there is no shastamsha and there is only shashiamsha which is division of 60 and not 6.So this chart in j hora is confusing me. Now in the 16 vargas there is one named trimshamsa, which division of rashi into 6 unequal parts according to a special formula and it is looked for evils and diseases. Now is this what j hora considers too and have they used a different name? If so pls check if the chart is as per this special formula for trimshamsha.Thanks and regardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ >

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Dear Santhosh Ji,Thank you so much for your warm reply and kind understanding.I used Parashara Light version 6.1 for this chart. Sometimes I use J.hora.Look forward to your valued opinion about D-6 / J. hora as youmentioned. Thanks again.Best Regards,Deepak SharmaSanthosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>ancient_indian_ astrologyThu,

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Dear Deepakji, //Who told you - I went straight to D-6 and D-9 without

looking at the degrees of planets,

their aspects / conjunctions etc in Natal Chart? Did I mention this anywhere?

In my two liner, I also justified that I looked into current period of native

also.

This is just to bring to your kind notice.// Your post mentioned only analysis of d6 and d9 and I didn’t

see any mention of analysis of rashi and hence my comment. Your reaction shows

that I have touched a raw nerve and hence my apologies. Every astrologer has

his own way of going about looking at the chart and I have no right questing

other’s style. Nevertheless, I would like to mention a few words about D6. Can you please clarify if you got this chart from j/hora

software. Once you clarify I need to tell you something that I observed and we

can then seek clarification from seniors like sreenadhji. Regards and best wishes Santhosh

 

 

 

 

ancient_indian_ astrology [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of deepak sharma

Wednesday, December 02, 2009

2:37 PM

ancient_indian_ astrology

Subject:

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

Dear Santosh,

I wonder my two liner reply brings so much of your kind attention.

I think you should go through the mail again based on which you've raised a few

 

doubts and written some good basics of astrology.

// In your analsyis you straight away went to d6 and d9 for arriving at a

conclusion //

Who told you - I went straight to D-6 and D-9 without looking at the degrees of

planets,

their aspects / conjunctions etc in Natal Chart? Did I mention this anywhere?

In my two liner, I also justified that I looked into current period of native

also.

This is just to bring to your kind notice.

// But if you cannot derive something from a rashi chart yet you see that in a

varga

position it cannot be a conclusive prediction //

I did not make any prediction in my mail. I did not even claim to analyze

something

completely as I wrote // there must be other reasons as well //

However, based on the general signications of Sun (Heart, Employment) and Mars

(Muscular system & blood) whose degrees / aspects were known based on the

given

time, I just gave couple of contibutory factors for employment and BP problem

of

the native.

And I doubt if general signication of planets and current period also get

changed

drastically with a few minutes of time difference in Natal Chart.

I also mentioned in the mail // there must be other reasons as well//

and // ...which may require further inputs and study //

Best Regards,

Deepak Sharma

 

 

 

 

Santhosh

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12:10:05 PM

RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology]

Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

Dear Deepak, Allow me to say something too on this which might be further

clarified by manojji. In your analsyis you straight away went to d6 and d9 for arriving

at a conclusion. Please remember that varga positions of planets are mainly

used for assessing the strength of the planet in the rashi chart and it is used

for cross verification of points noticed in the rashi chart. Your primary analysis should be based on the rashi chart and then

you can substantiate it from the varga position. But if you cannot derive

something from a rashi chart yet you see that in a varga position it cannot be

a conclusive prediction. You will notice that all along I use the phrase varga

position and not varga chart because in traditional astrology there is no such

thing as varga chart. It is available only in computer software. It is the

position of the planet in the main rashi chart when the rashi is sub-divided

into different parts which pin points an issue noticed in the rashi chart. Now coming to your question in the email below. You are right just

because 6th house is weak you cannot say divorce. It has to be cross

verified with 7th house and its lord, varga positions of 7th

lord, planets in 7th house, attributes of karaka for marriage, venus

etc to arrive at a conclusion because 6th house signifies many other

things also, derived or primary. Regards Santhosh

 

 

 

ancient_indian_ astrology

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10:56 AM

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Dear Manoj

Ji,

Thank you so

much for your valued opinion and I do agree with the rules you

mentioned.

I'm giving a hypothetical example to share my views on the subject -

If sixth house of a native is extremely weak /afflicted. Say its lord is weak

on multiple

accounts like combustion, debilitation, debilitation in D-9 & other D-

Charts, afflictions etc

Can we predict divorce or family / marriage disputes from this?

My opinion - Despite extreme afflictions or weaknesses to sixth house, the

native

may not suffer at all regarding the family matters / divorce. Native may have a

happy

married life.

Why - Because "Divorce" is not the "Primary signification"

of Sixth house.

This is a "Derived signification" based on some rules.

The Primary signfication is the "dispute / litigation" (of course

many others)

When this "dispute / litigation" has some association with the houses

/ significators

of marriage / family, a native is likely to face family or marital

disputes resulting in

divorce.

If such an extremely weak and afflicted 6th house has no association with the

houses /

significators of marriage / family, it can not give divorce or disputes among

family members.

(Please note - "Derived Significations" or "Primary

Significations" of 6th house may

not be mentioned in any of the books. I've used the terms to convey my

message.)

Best Regards,

Deepak Sharma

 

 

 

Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

Wed, December 2, 2009

6:21:18 AM

Re: [ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

Dear Deepak Ji,

 

Here are my views on it: 6H is 12th from the 7th. 6H is also the house of litigation.

For both these reasons it is definitely the house for divorce.

 

Now there is another contreversial rule I learned from one of my teachers. 6H

is also the house of "the other one" or the "person one is

having an affair with". I forget the explanation for this, but apparently

Parashara mentions this in one of his shlokas. So along with the 2H, 6H also

can lead to "divorce due to interference from outside".

Regards, -Manoj

 

 

 

 

deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ >

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

Tue, December 1, 2009

1:58:17 PM

Re: [ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

Dear Santosh

Ji,

Is the Sixth house treated as "House of Divorce" as you mentioned

below?

May I ask you to throw some light upon this. Thank you.

 

Best

Regards,

Deepak Sharma

 

 

 

"santhosh@sudhamayi .com"

<santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

Tue, December 1, 2009

8:24:19 PM

Re: [ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

Thats

good surmise. That explains very well. Nevertheless, 7th lord is in the house

of divorce or marital problems. But being in own navamsha, imparts some

strength to the 7th bhava.

Regards

Santhosh Sent from

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Girish menon <horamag >

 

Date:

Tue, 1 Dec 2009 04:59:58 -0800 (PST)

 

To:

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Subject:

Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

Dear Santosh Interseting case

study about wrong birth time. The time 10:10

is not correct Within 3 minutes

23 seconds his lagna changes to scorpio Now if we

calculate the lagna from scorpio as puneet said Negative

is due to health after 2002 having BP problems,profession al problems in

job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in family health and career. Gives more

clarity Dear Puneetji I feel the bhava

cakra is not the issue here but the wrong time which I don’t blame you

for that Thanks and

regards Girish

 

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> wrote:

puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com>

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

ancient_indian_ astrology

Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 4:16 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Santhosh

 

Negative is due to health after 2002 having BP problems,profession al

problems in job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in family health and career.

 

Regards

Puneet Ahuja

 

--- On Mon, 30/11/09, Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

wrote:

Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

ancient_indian_ astrology

Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:37 PM

 

Dear Puneet, Can you please clarify the negative effect?

Is it related to marriage, children or health? Regards Santhosh

 

 

 

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of puneet ahuja

Tuesday, December 01,

2009 11:27 AM

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

Re: [ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

 

 

DEAR

GIRISH

 

Place-Mumbai

 

 

Regards

 

Puneet

Ahuja

 

--- On Mon, 30/11/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com>

wrote:

puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com>

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

ancient_indian_ astrology

Monday, 30 November, 2009, 8:25 PM

 

 

 

 

 

DEAR

GIRISH

 

Thanks

for your mail

 

My

details are Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm

 

My

question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but

in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects

of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart.

 

 

Kindly

give your advise for above.

 

 

Warm

Regards

 

Puneet

Ahuja

 

 

 

--- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon <horamag >

wrote:

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Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

ancient_indian_ astrology

Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Puneet ji

Can you please give us your chart details

Thanks

Girish

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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DEAR SANTHOSHJIThanks for your replyYou are right Ketu-Mars starts in June89 and divorce came through in Nov89No child from first marriage but have son from second marriage in Nov96You are right I have to take it as Scorpio lagna but love affair-Mercury in 5 and loss of child from second marraige-Ketu in 5 these are traits of Libra Lagna.Can you help me in getting a copy of j/hora.I am working in a software company as GM -MARKETING looking fter business development for software projects.RegardsPuneet Ahuja --- On Wed, 2/12/09, Santhosh <santhosh wrote:Santhosh

<santhoshRE: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Date: Wednesday, 2 December, 2009, 10:06 PM

 

 

 

 

Dear Puneetji, Thanks for the details. Although I feel scorpio lagna better

explains your life story, I am not an expert in brith time rectification. I

feel someone like Neelamji is better positioned to do this. I hope she helps

you to ascertain the correct lagna. Further I have been noticing some inconsistencies

in the dasa periods mentioned. Which software have you used to arrive at the

dasa periods? You mercury dasa starts in December 1969 as per j/hora. Similarly

ketu-mars is from June 1989. Any children from your first marriage? Any

children now from your second marriage? What were you working as? Regards’ Santhosh

 

 

 

ancient_indian_ astrology [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of puneet ahuja

Wednesday, December 02, 2009

8:10 PM

ancient_indian_ astrology

RE:

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

 

Dear SANTOSHJI

 

As my Mercury dasa started in end Dec71 my father who was working in Airlines

got promoted to GM and we were transferred to Delhi .

I completed my education graduation,MBA in Mercury Dasa ,bought a house where

I was staying for 10 years in 1985 during Mercury-Saturn in 1985 got married

had a love affair and got married in OCT 1986.

 

Ketu dasa was very very bad had a divorce in Ketu-MARS in 1988, our tenants

with help of some high official filed a criminal case against me and my

father regarding our house.

We had to leave our house and stay in a rented place

During Nov89 we sold our old house and bought a new luxury flat where I am

staying since last 20 years.

During Ketu-Rahu Got remarried ,loss of issue was in OCT 1992

Ketu Dasa was very very bad which shows bad effects of Ketu in 5 if you take

Libra lagna

 

During Venus-Venus end it gave us inheritance of big money from my

uncle who had expired and left his property in my fathers name. .

Venus was very good till 2001 ,Bad period started from Venus-RAHU,Venus

-jupiter Venus-Saturn was okay gave me a overseas trip to Doha for my job.

Having lot of hopes on Venus-Mercury starting from 19dec2009.

 

Mercury Dasa has given ,more of Lbra LAGNA effects,love affair into marriage

and loss of marriage by Ketu in 5 and loss of issue by Ketu in 5.

 

I have just given you my details so that you can understand better

--- On Tue, 1/12/09, Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

wrote:

Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

ancient_indian_ astrology

Tuesday, 1 December, 2009, 10:55 PM

 

Dear Puneet, //But if we take

Scorpio lagna then my Mercury dasa which was excellent cannot be

explained with Scorpio lagna.// Let us consider

this. Can you break this period of mercury dasa into 2 and tell me which half

was better. Further, when you say excellent, in what terms it was excellent

we can then possibly arrive at a satisfactory answer. Where you

employed in Govt service? And was it a uniformed service? Regards Santhosh

 

 

 

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com [ancient_ indian_astrology ] On Behalf Of puneet ahuja

Wednesday, December 02,

2009 9:49 AM

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

Re: [ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

 

DEAR

Deepakji/Manojji/ Santhoshji/ Girishji

 

Time

has been correctly recorded at the hospital when I was born,have rechecked

the same By your views, I think you are suggesting that my lagna is Scorpio

and Venus as 6 lord is giiving me bad effects.

 

Sun

would become strong as for Scorpio lagna ,it is lord of 10 placed in 5 and

RAHU is placed in 10 house in house of Sun that way carrer wouls have

been good if it is Scorpio lagna.

 

Yes

Sun being neecha in navamsa makes it weak and I have to be very very

careful in Sun dasa starting in 2013 from litigation,bad luck and health

problems.

 

 

But

if we take Scorpio lagna then my Mercury dasa which was excellent

cannot be explained with Scorpio lagna.

 

 

Kindly

give your views for the above

 

 

Warm

Regards

 

Puneet

Ahuja

--- On Tue, 1/12/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >

wrote:

Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >

Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

ancient_indian_ astrology

Tuesday, 1 December, 2009, 4:51 PM

 

 

 

Dear

Deepak Ji,

 

Here are my views on it: 6H is 12th from the 7th. 6H is also the house of

litigation. For both these reasons it is definitely the house for divorce.

 

Now there is another contreversial rule I learned from one of my teachers.

6H is also the house of "the other one" or the "person

one is having an affair with". I forget the explanation for this, but

apparently Parashara mentions this in one of his shlokas. So along with the

2H, 6H also can lead to "divorce due to interference from outside".

Regards, -Manoj

 

 

 

 

deepak sharma

<deepak_rptech@ >

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

Tue, December 1, 2009

1:58:17 PM

Re: [ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

Dear Santosh Ji,

Is the Sixth house treated as "House of Divorce" as you mentioned

below?

May I ask you to throw some light upon this. Thank you.

 

Best Regards,

Deepak Sharma

 

 

 

"santhosh@sudhamayi

..com" <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

Tue, December 1, 2009

8:24:19 PM

Re: [ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

Thats

good surmise. That explains very well. Nevertheless, 7th lord is in the

house of divorce or marital problems. But being in own navamsha, imparts

some strength to the 7th bhava.

Regards

Santhosh Sent

from BlackBerry® on Airtel

 

 

 

Girish menon <horamag (AT) (DOT)

com>

 

Tue, 1 Dec 2009 04:59:58 -0800

(PST)

 

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. com>

 

Re: [ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear

Santosh Interseting

case study about wrong birth time. The

time 10:10 is not correct Within

3 minutes 23 seconds his lagna changes to scorpio Now

if we calculate the lagna from scorpio as puneet said Negative

is due to health after 2002 having BP problems,profession al problems in

job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in family health and career. Gives

more clarity Dear

Puneetji I

feel the bhava cakra is not the issue here but the wrong time which I

don’t blame you for that Thanks

and regards Girish

 

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> wrote:

puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com>

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

ancient_indian_ astrology

Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 4:16 AM

 

 

 

Dear Santhosh

 

Negative is due to health after 2002 having BP

problems,profession al problems in job,whatever I am doing I face a

problem,in family health and career.

 

Regards

Puneet Ahuja

 

--- On Mon, 30/11/09, Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

wrote:

Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

ancient_indian_ astrology

Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:37 PM

 

Dear Puneet, Can you please clarify the negative

effect? Is it related to marriage, children or health? Regards Santhosh

 

 

 

 

ancient_indian_ astrology [ ancient_indian_

astrology ] On

Behalf Of puneet ahuja

Tuesday, December

01, 2009 11:27 AM

ancient_indian_

astrology

Re:

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

 

 

DEAR GIRISH

 

Place-Mumbai

 

 

Regards

 

Puneet Ahuja

 

--- On Mon, 30/11/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com>

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puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com>

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

ancient_indian_ astrology

Monday, 30 November, 2009, 8:25 PM

 

 

 

DEAR GIRISH

 

Thanks for your mail

 

My details are Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm

 

My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is

in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am

getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava

chart.

 

 

Kindly give your advise for above.

 

 

Warm Regards

 

Puneet Ahuja

 

 

 

--- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish

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Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

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Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM

 

 

 

Dear Puneet ji

Can you please give us your chart details

Thanks

Girish

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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DEAR SANTHOSHJIMy lagna is Libra/Scorpio not Vrishabha LAGNA as your mail says below.RegardsPuneet Ahuja--- On Wed, 2/12/09, Santhosh <santhosh wrote:Santhosh <santhoshRE: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Date: Wednesday, 2 December, 2009, 9:27 PM

 

 

 

 

Dear Deepakji, Thanks for your understanding. However, I still

wish to clarify that mars is not directly related to blood. Mars represents

bone marrow that produces blood as well as the RBC in the blood that gives it

the color. Generally some diseases of blood such as blood cancer are directly

connected to the RBC in the blood. That’s when mars come into picture. Moon

represents the flow ad vitality of the blood in its liquid form (sloka 29 of

uttarakalamrita) and any affliction to moon affects this flow. If you notice in

Puneet ji’s chart, moon is in papamadhyasthithi. Hence, although moon has

pakshabala it is weak because of papamadhyasthithi. This affliction of moon

with neechasthithi of guru has led to the current problem of puneetji, which

has aggravated in the period of venus which is in rogastana with vrishabha

lagna. You will also notice that for vrishabha lagna guru and venus both are maraka

grahas. I am aware that sloka 33 of

uttarakalamrita mentions blood as one of the significations of mars. But as is

normal, teachings of acharyas like mihiracharya, parasharamuni etc take over

that of kalidasa when there is a conflict or doubt or clarity is required. Regards Santhosh

 

 

 

ancient_indian_ astrology [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of deepak sharma

Wednesday, December 02, 2009

12:46 PM

ancient_indian_ astrology

Subject:

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

Dear Santosh,

Thanks for giving your further opinion.

Moon and Mars - both signify blood (Uttarakalamrita)

Sun, Moon, Mars, 4th House & Jupiter should be considered for BP / Heart

Problems.

As Jupiter governs arteries, Its role is important for BP cases.

I missed this in earlier mail - Thanks for raising this point.

//BP Definition in this context (taken from www.mayoclinic. com)

Blood pressure is determined by the amount of blood your heart pumps and the amount

of resistance to blood flow in your arteries. The more blood your heart pumps and

the narrower your arteries, the higher your blood pressure //

Best Regards,

Deepak Sharma

 

 

 

 

"santhosh@sudhamayi .com" <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

ancient_indian_ astrology

Wed, December 2, 2009

7:10:57 AM

Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology]

Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

Dear

deepak,

I misstook d4. My mistake and apologies.

 

I beg to differ with you on the signification for mars. Mars signifies bone

marrow and not blood.

Bone marrow works to produce blood and it has got nothing to do with the blood

preasure. This could be due to deposits in the blood of colestrol and fat. Thats

why bp and colestrol generally come together. Jupiter signifies fats and

colestrol. You will see in his chart that ju is in neecha.

His roga time started in venus dasa which in 6h after rectification. What roga?

Because of ju, bp is definitely in picture. Ask him about colestrol also.

By the way chandra signifies blood not moon. Here it means all liquid in the

body including blood.

I hope it is clear

Regards

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Tue, 1 Dec

2009 11:26:42 -0800 (PST)

 

<ancient_indian_

astrology>

 

Re:

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

Hi Santhosh,

 

Kindly go through my earlier mail again -

1.) D-4 Chart is not considered at all,

2.) D-9 is considered to check the strength of Sun. Anything Strange?

3.) Is it Strange to go into Shashtamsha Chart (D-6) for diseases?

// can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp //

Mars ruling muscular parts and blood should be checked for BP cases.

Best Regards,

Deepak Sharma

 

 

 

 

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ancient_indian_ astrology@

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Tue, December 1, 2009

10:19:59 PM

[ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

Dear

deepak,

 

Thats strange going into d6 and d4. Further, can you please elucidate on the

connection between mars and bp. Where did you get it from?

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<ancient_indian_

astrology>

 

[ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

Dear Puneet Ji,

Without going into Birth time rectification / fixing of Ascendant, which may

require further inputs and study, it can be observed that -

Your BP problem is due to debilitation of Sun in

D-9 and Debilitation of Mars in D-6 Chart. Mars being dispositor of

current dasha (irrespective of ascendant) also matters here.

Weak Sun is also responsible for Job related

problems though there must be other reasons as well.

Best Regards,

Deepak Sharma

 

gopalakrishna

<gopi_b927 >

ancient_indian_

astrology

Tue, December 1, 2009

6:47:41 PM

[ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

Dear Puneet,

according to my knowledge it will give the efects of both houses as well as

5thH since it is retro and you yourself are confirming it.Do not also forget as

you said it will give lagna/12thH afects which you also mentioned.Anyway

since it is a sandhi lagna i feel the birth time need to be checked/rectified.

.......

Love and regards,

gopi.

ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet

ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Gopi

> I am getting bad effects as Venus is also retrograde and sincrely think it

is bad effects of 6 house as  if venus in 7 then it aspects lagna then I

must definitely get good effects.

> Venus Dasa started in 1993 Iit was giving good effects till 2001 after

that it has been giving bad effects ,you can say from 1993 to 2001 it gave 7

house effects and since 201 it is giving 6 house bhava effects-is  this

possible---- --------- -------Â

> RegardsPuneet Ahuja

>

> --- On Mon, 30/11/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. . wrote:

>

> gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. .

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:45 PM

>

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>

>

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>

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>

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> Dear Puneet ji,

> Are you really getting bad effects is the crux of the matter.If so only

then Bhava chart should be considered.But my personal opinion is both 6 as well

as 7H could give bad effects but those bad effects vary and you know why.....

> Love and regards,

> gopi.

> ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet ahuja

<punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > DEAR GIRISH

> > Thanks for your mailMy details are  Puneet Ahuja,

26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm  My question is since I am having Venus

MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I

am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart.

> > Kindly give your advise for above.

> > Warm RegardsPuneet AhujaÂÂ

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Dear KulbirjiMoon is not weak in 10 house,it is in his own sign CANCER.RegardsPuneet Ahuja --- On Wed, 2/12/09, kulbir <kulbirbains wrote:kulbir <kulbirbains Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Date: Wednesday, 2 December, 2009, 8:14 PM

 

 

Sir,s'

 

Lalkitab says that Sun in 6th house with a weak moon in horoscope; or with mercury in 12th house; adversely effects heart beat;

Blood Pressure problem is pronounced.

in this case sun is in house no 6; moon in house no 10 which falls in category of weak.

 

Regards

Kulbir

 

ancient_indian_ astrology, deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Santosh,

> Thanks for giving your further opinion.

> Moon and Mars - both signify blood (Uttarakalamrita)

> Sun, Moon, Mars, 4th House & Jupiter should be considered for BP / Heart Problems.

> As Jupiter governs arteries, Its role is important for BP cases.

> I missed this in earlier mail - Thanks for raising this point.

> //BP Definition in this context (taken from www.mayoclinic. com)

> Blood pressure is determined by the amount of blood your heart pumps

> and the amount

> of resistance to blood flow in your arteries. The more

> blood your heart pumps and

> the narrower your arteries, the higher your

> blood pressure //

> Best Regards,

> Deepak Sharma

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> "santhosh@.. ." <santhosh@.. .>

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> Wed, December 2, 2009 7:10:57 AM

> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

>

>

> Dear deepak,

> I misstook d4. My mistake and apologies.

>

> I beg to differ with you on the signification for mars. Mars signifies bone marrow and not blood.

> Bone marrow works to produce blood and it has got nothing to do with the blood preasure. This could be due to deposits in the blood of colestrol and fat. Thats why bp and colestrol generally come together. Jupiter signifies fats and colestrol. You will see in his chart that ju is in neecha.

> His roga time started in venus dasa which in 6h after rectification. What roga? Because of ju, bp is definitely in picture. Ask him about colestrol also.

> By the way chandra signifies blood not moon. Here it means all liquid in the body including blood.

> I hope it is clear

> Regards

> Santhosh

>

> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

> ____________ _________ _________ __

>

> deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ >

> Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:26:42 -0800 (PST)

> <ancient_indian_ astrology>

> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

>

> Hi Santhosh,

>

> Kindly go through my earlier mail again -

> 1.) D-4 Chart is not considered at all,

> 2.) D-9 is considered to check the strength of Sun. Anything Strange?

> 3.) Is it Strange to go into Shashtamsha Chart (D-6) for diseases?

> // can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp //

> Mars ruling muscular parts and blood should be checked for BP cases.

> Best Regards,

> Deepak Sharma

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> "santhosh@sudhamayi .com" <santhosh@sudhamayi . com>

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> Tue, December 1, 2009 10:19:59 PM

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

>

>

> Dear deepak,

>

> Thats strange going into d6 and d4. Further, can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp. Where did you get it from?

> Regards

> Santhosh

>

> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

> ____________ _________ _________ __

>

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> Tue, 1 Dec 2009 08:27:53 -0800 (PST)

> <ancient_indian_ astrology>

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

>

> Dear Puneet Ji,

> Without going into Birth time rectification / fixing of Ascendant, which may

> require further inputs and study, it can be observed that -

>

> * Your BP problem is due to debilitation of Sun in D-9 and Debilitation of Marsin D-6 Chart. Mars being dispositor of current dasha (irrespective of ascendant) also matters here.

> * Weak Sun is also responsible for Job related problems though there must be other reasons as well.Best Regards,

> Deepak Sharma

>

>

> gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 >

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> Tue, December 1, 2009 6:47:41 PM

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

>

>

> Dear Puneet,

> according to my knowledge it will give the efects of both houses as well as 5thH since it is retro and you yourself are confirming it.Do not also forget as you said it will give lagna/12thH afects which you also mentioned.Anyway since it is a sandhi lagna i feel the birth time need to be checked/rectified. ......

> Love and regards,

> gopi.

> ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Gopi

> > I am getting bad effects as Venus is also retrograde and sincrely think it is bad effects of 6 house as  if venus in 7 then it aspects lagna then I must definitely get good effects.

> > Venus Dasa started in 1993 Iit was giving good effects till 2001 after that it has been giving bad effects ,you can say from 1993 to 2001 it gave 7 house effects and since 201 it is giving 6 house bhava effects-is  this possible---- --------- -------Â

> > RegardsPuneet Ahuja

> >

> > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ . wrote:

> >

> > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ .

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

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> > Are you really getting bad effects is the crux of the matter.If so only then Bhava chart should be considered.But my personal opinion is both 6 as well as 7H could give bad effects but those bad effects vary and you know why.....

> > Love and regards,

> > gopi.

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > DEAR GIRISH

> > > Thanks for your mailMy details are  Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm  My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart.

> > > Kindly give your advise for above.

> > > Warm RegardsPuneet AhujaÂÂ

> > >

> > > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon horamag@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Girish menon horamag@

> > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

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Dear all,I meant vrishchika (scorpio) lagna.SorrySanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel puneet ahuja <punsoft2003Thu, 3 Dec 2009 15:53:26 +0530 (IST)RE: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA DEAR SANTHOSHJIMy lagna is Libra/Scorpio not Vrishabha LAGNA as your mail says below.RegardsPuneet Ahuja--- On Wed, 2/12/09, Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> wrote:Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>RE: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Date: Wednesday, 2 December, 2009, 9:27 PM Dear Deepakji, Thanks for your understanding. However, I stillwish to clarify that mars is not directly related to blood. Mars representsbone marrow that produces blood as well as the RBC in the blood that gives itthe color. Generally some diseases of blood such as blood cancer are directlyconnected to the RBC in the blood. That’s when mars come into picture. Moonrepresents the flow ad vitality of the blood in its liquid form (sloka 29 ofuttarakalamrita) and any affliction to moon affects this flow. If you notice inPuneet ji’s chart, moon is in papamadhyasthithi. Hence, although moon haspakshabala it is weak because of papamadhyasthithi. This affliction of moonwith neechasthithi of guru has led to the current problem of puneetji, whichhas aggravated in the period of venus which is in rogastana with vrishabhalagna. You will also notice that for vrishabha lagna guru and venus both are marakagrahas. I am aware that sloka 33 ofuttarakalamrita mentions blood as one of the significations of mars. But as isnormal, teachings of acharyas like mihiracharya, parasharamuni etc take overthat of kalidasa when there is a conflict or doubt or clarity is required. Regards Santhosh ancient_indian_ astrology [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of deepak sharmaWednesday, December 02, 200912:46 PMancient_indian_ astrologySubject:[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Santosh,Thanks for giving your further opinion.Moon and Mars - both signify blood (Uttarakalamrita)Sun, Moon, Mars, 4th House & Jupiter should be considered for BP / HeartProblems.As Jupiter governs arteries, Its role is important for BP cases.I missed this in earlier mail - Thanks for raising this point.//BP Definition in this context (taken from www.mayoclinic. com) Blood pressure is determined by the amount of blood your heart pumps and the amount of resistance to blood flow in your arteries. The more blood your heart pumps and the narrower your arteries, the higher your blood pressure //Best Regards,Deepak Sharma "santhosh@sudhamayi .com" <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>ancient_indian_ astrologyWed, December 2, 20097:10:57 AMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology]Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Deardeepak,I misstook d4. My mistake and apologies.I beg to differ with you on the signification for mars. Mars signifies bonemarrow and not blood.Bone marrow works to produce blood and it has got nothing to do with the bloodpreasure. This could be due to deposits in the blood of colestrol and fat. Thatswhy bp and colestrol generally come together. Jupiter signifies fats andcolestrol. You will see in his chart that ju is in neecha.His roga time started in venus dasa which in 6h after rectification. What roga?Because of ju, bp is definitely in picture. Ask him about colestrol also.By the way chandra signifies blood not moon. Here it means all liquid in thebody including blood.I hope it is clearRegardsSanthosh Sent fromBlackBerry® on Airtel deepak sharma<deepak_rptech@ > Tue, 1 Dec2009 11:26:42 -0800 (PST) <> Re:[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Hi Santhosh, Kindly go through my earlier mail again -1.) D-4 Chart is not considered at all,2.) D-9 is considered to check the strength of Sun. Anything Strange?3.) Is it Strange to go into Shashtamsha Chart (D-6) for diseases?// can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp //Mars ruling muscular parts and blood should be checked for BP cases.Best Regards,Deepak Sharma "santhosh@sudhamayi .com" <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>ancient_indian_ astrology Tue, December 1, 200910:19:59 PM Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Deardeepak,Thats strange going into d6 and d4. Further, can you please elucidate on theconnection between mars and bp. Where did you get it from?RegardsSanthosh Sent fromBlackBerry® on Airtel deepak sharma<deepak_rptech@ > Tue, 1 Dec2009 08:27:53 -0800 (PST) <> Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Puneet Ji,Without going into Birth time rectification / fixing of Ascendant, which mayrequire further inputs and study, it can be observed that - Your BP problem is due to debilitation of Sun inD-9 and Debilitation of Mars in D-6 Chart. Mars being dispositor ofcurrent dasha (irrespective of ascendant) also matters here. Weak Sun is also responsible for Job relatedproblems though there must be other reasons as well. Best Regards,Deepak Sharma gopalakrishna<gopi_b927 > Tue, December 1, 20096:47:41 PM Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Puneet,according to my knowledge it will give the efects of both houses as well as5thH since it is retro and you yourself are confirming it.Do not also forget asyou said it will give lagna/12thH afects which you also mentioned.Anywaysince it is a sandhi lagna i feel the birth time need to be checked/rectified.......Love and regards,gopi.ancient_indian_ astrology, puneetahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Gopi> I am getting bad effects as Venus is also retrograde and sincrely think itis bad effects of 6 house as  if venus in 7 then it aspects lagna then Imust definitely get good effects.> Venus Dasa started in 1993 Iit was giving good effects till 2001 afterthat it has been giving bad effects ,you can say from 1993 to 2001 it gave 7house effects and since 201 it is giving 6 house bhava effects-is  thispossible---- --------- ------- > RegardsPuneet Ahuja> > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. . wrote:> > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. .> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> ancient_indian_ astrology> Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:45 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji,> Are you really getting bad effects is the crux of the matter.If so onlythen Bhava chart should be considered.But my personal opinion is both 6 as wellas 7H could give bad effects but those bad effects vary and you know why.....> Love and regards,> gopi.> ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet ahuja<punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:> >> > DEAR GIRISH> > Thanks for your mailMy details are  Puneet Ahuja,26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm  My question is since I am having VenusMahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that Iam getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart.> > Kindly give your advise for above.> > Warm RegardsPuneet Ahuja > > > > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon horamag@ wrote:> > > > Girish menon horamag@> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji> > Can you please give us your chart details> > Thanks> > Girish> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Puneet ji;

 

1. the first query from your side should have been;- Can sun and mercury be at

difference of 7 houses ?.

 

may be the reason is that you are more concerned about your own horoscope.

 

2. lalkitab method takes only houses into consideration; not the signs. There is

very limited role of sign; that too confined to calculative part or remedy part.

 

Regards

Kulbir

 

, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003

wrote:

>

> Dear Kulbirji

> Moon is not weak in 10 house,it is in his own sign CANCER.

> RegardsPuneet Ahuja 

>

> --- On Wed, 2/12/09, kulbir <kulbirbains wrote:

>

> kulbir <kulbirbains

> Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

>

> Wednesday, 2 December, 2009, 8:14 PM

>

>

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>

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> Lalkitab says that Sun in 6th house with a weak moon in horoscope; or with

mercury in 12th house; adversely effects heart beat;

>

> Blood Pressure problem is pronounced.

>

> in this case sun is in house no 6; moon in house no 10 which falls in category

of weak.

>

>

>

> Regards

>

> Kulbir

>

>

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, deepak sharma

<deepak_rptech@ ...> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Dear Santosh,

>

> > Thanks for giving your further opinion.

>

> > Moon and Mars - both signify blood (Uttarakalamrita)

>

> > Sun, Moon, Mars, 4th House & Jupiter should be considered for BP / Heart

Problems.

>

> > As Jupiter governs arteries, Its role is important for BP cases.

>

> > I missed this in earlier mail - Thanks for raising this point.

>

> > //BP Definition in this context (taken from www.mayoclinic. com)

>

> > Blood pressure is determined by the amount of blood your heart pumps

>

> > and the amount

>

> > of resistance to blood flow in your arteries. The more

>

> > blood your heart pumps and

>

> > the narrower your arteries, the higher your

>

> > blood pressure //

>

> > Best Regards,

>

> > Deepak Sharma

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

>

> > " santhosh@ . " <santhosh@ .>

>

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

>

> > Wed, December 2, 2009 7:10:57 AM

>

> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Dear deepak,

>

> > I misstook d4. My mistake and apologies.

>

> >

>

> > I beg to differ with you on the signification for mars. Mars signifies bone

marrow and not blood.

>

> > Bone marrow works to produce blood and it has got nothing to do with the

blood preasure. This could be due to deposits in the blood of colestrol and fat.

Thats why bp and colestrol generally come together. Jupiter signifies fats and

colestrol. You will see in his chart that ju is in neecha.

>

> > His roga time started in venus dasa which in 6h after rectification. What

roga? Because of ju, bp is definitely in picture. Ask him about colestrol also.

>

> > By the way chandra signifies blood not moon. Here it means all liquid in the

body including blood.

>

> > I hope it is clear

>

> > Regards

>

> > Santhosh

>

> >

>

> > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

>

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

>

> >

>

> > deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ >

>

> > Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:26:42 -0800 (PST)

>

> > <ancient_indian_ astrology>

>

> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

>

> >

>

> > Hi Santhosh,

>

> >

>

> > Kindly go through my earlier mail again -

>

> > 1.) D-4 Chart is not considered at all,

>

> > 2.) D-9 is considered to check the strength of Sun. Anything Strange?

>

> > 3.) Is it Strange to go into Shashtamsha Chart (D-6) for diseases?

>

> > // can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp //

>

> > Mars ruling muscular parts and blood should be checked for BP cases.

>

> > Best Regards,

>

> > Deepak Sharma

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

>

> > " santhosh@sudhamayi .com " <santhosh@sudhamayi . com>

>

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

>

> > Tue, December 1, 2009 10:19:59 PM

>

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Dear deepak,

>

> >

>

> > Thats strange going into d6 and d4. Further, can you please elucidate on the

connection between mars and bp. Where did you get it from?

>

> > Regards

>

> > Santhosh

>

> >

>

> > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

>

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

>

> >

>

> > deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ >

>

> > Tue, 1 Dec 2009 08:27:53 -0800 (PST)

>

> > <ancient_indian_ astrology>

>

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

>

> >

>

> > Dear Puneet Ji,

>

> > Without going into Birth time rectification / fixing of Ascendant, which may

>

> > require further inputs and study, it can be observed that -

>

> >

>

> > * Your BP problem is due to debilitation of Sun in D-9 and Debilitation of

Marsin D-6 Chart. Mars being dispositor of current dasha (irrespective of

ascendant) also matters here.

>

> > * Weak Sun is also responsible for Job related problems though there must

be other reasons as well.Best Regards,

>

> > Deepak Sharma

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 >

>

> >

>

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

>

> > Tue, December 1, 2009 6:47:41 PM

>

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Dear Puneet,

>

> > according to my knowledge it will give the efects of both houses as well as

5thH since it is retro and you yourself are confirming it.Do not also forget as

you said it will give lagna/12thH afects which you also mentioned.Anyway since

it is a sandhi lagna i feel the birth time need to be checked/rectified. ......

>

> > Love and regards,

>

> > gopi.

>

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet ahuja

<punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:

>

> > >

>

> > > Dear Gopi

>

> > > I am getting bad effects as Venus is also retrograde and sincrely think it

is bad effects of 6 house as  if venus in 7 then it aspects lagna then I

must definitely get good effects.

>

> > > Venus Dasa started in 1993 Iit was giving good effects till 2001 after

that it has been giving bad effects ,you can say from 1993 to 2001 it gave 7

house effects and since 201 it is giving 6 house bhava effects-is  this

possible---- --------- -------Â

>

> > > RegardsPuneet Ahuja

>

> > >

>

> > > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ . wrote:

>

> > >

>

> > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ .

>

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

>

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology

>

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>

> > > Are you really getting bad effects is the crux of the matter.If so only

then Bhava chart should be considered.But my personal opinion is both 6 as well

as 7H could give bad effects but those bad effects vary and you know why.....

>

> > > Love and regards,

>

> > > gopi.

>

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet ahuja

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> > > > Thanks for your mailMy details are ÃÆ'‚Â Puneet Ahuja,

26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm ÃÆ'‚Â My question is since I am having Venus

MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I

am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart.

>

> > > > Kindly give your advise for above.

>

> > > > Warm RegardsPuneet AhujaÃÆ'‚Â

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> > > >

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> > > > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon horamag@ wrote:

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DEAR KULBIRJII do not understand LAL KITAB,there is no question of concern for my horoscopeHow can Mercury and Sun be at a difference of 7 signs.Secondly I do not agree with your view that Moon in 10 in own house is weakRegardsPuneet Ahuja--- On Thu, 3/12/09, kulbir <kulbirbains wrote:kulbir <kulbirbains Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Date: Thursday, 3 December, 2009, 4:05 AM

 

 

Puneet ji;

 

1. the first query from your side should have been;- Can sun and mercury be at difference of 7 houses ?.

 

may be the reason is that you are more concerned about your own horoscope.

 

2. lalkitab method takes only houses into consideration; not the signs. There is very limited role of sign; that too confined to calculative part or remedy part.

 

Regards

Kulbir

 

ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:

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> Dear Kulbirji

> Moon is not weak in 10 house,it is in his own sign CANCER.

> RegardsPuneet AhujaÂ

>

> --- On Wed, 2/12/09, kulbir <kulbirbains@ ...> wrote:

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> kulbir <kulbirbains@ ...>

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> Wednesday, 2 December, 2009, 8:14 PM

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> ancient_indian_ astrology, deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ ...> wrote:

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> > Dear Santosh,

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> > Thanks for giving your further opinion.

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> > Moon and Mars - both signify blood (Uttarakalamrita)

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> > Sun, Moon, Mars, 4th House & Jupiter should be considered for BP / Heart Problems.

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> > As Jupiter governs arteries, Its role is important for BP cases.

>

> > I missed this in earlier mail - Thanks for raising this point.

>

> > //BP Definition in this context (taken from www.mayoclinic. com)

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> > Blood pressure is determined by the amount of blood your heart pumps

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>

> > of resistance to blood flow in your arteries. The more

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> > blood your heart pumps and

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> > Best Regards,

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> > Deepak Sharma

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> > "santhosh@ ." <santhosh@ .>

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> > ancient_indian_ astrology

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> > Wed, December 2, 2009 7:10:57 AM

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> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

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> >

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> >

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> > Dear deepak,

>

> > I misstook d4. My mistake and apologies.

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> >

>

> > I beg to differ with you on the signification for mars. Mars signifies bone marrow and not blood.

>

> > Bone marrow works to produce blood and it has got nothing to do with the blood preasure. This could be due to deposits in the blood of colestrol and fat. Thats why bp and colestrol generally come together. Jupiter signifies fats and colestrol. You will see in his chart that ju is in neecha.

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> > His roga time started in venus dasa which in 6h after rectification. What roga? Because of ju, bp is definitely in picture. Ask him about colestrol also.

>

> > By the way chandra signifies blood not moon. Here it means all liquid in the body including blood.

>

> > I hope it is clear

>

> > Regards

>

> > Santhosh

>

> >

>

> > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

>

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

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> >

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> > deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ >

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> > Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:26:42 -0800 (PST)

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> > <ancient_indian_ astrology>

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> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

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> >

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> > Hi Santhosh,

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> >

>

> > Kindly go through my earlier mail again -

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> > 1.) D-4 Chart is not considered at all,

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> > 2.) D-9 is considered to check the strength of Sun. Anything Strange?

>

> > 3.) Is it Strange to go into Shashtamsha Chart (D-6) for diseases?

>

> > // can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp //

>

> > Mars ruling muscular parts and blood should be checked for BP cases.

>

> > Best Regards,

>

> > Deepak Sharma

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

>

> > "santhosh@sudhamayi .com" <santhosh@sudhamayi . com>

>

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

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> > Tue, December 1, 2009 10:19:59 PM

>

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

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> >

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> >

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> > Dear deepak,

>

> >

>

> > Thats strange going into d6 and d4. Further, can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp. Where did you get it from?

>

> > Regards

>

> > Santhosh

>

> >

>

> > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

>

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

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> >

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> > deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ >

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> > Tue, 1 Dec 2009 08:27:53 -0800 (PST)

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> > <ancient_indian_ astrology>

>

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

>

> >

>

> > Dear Puneet Ji,

>

> > Without going into Birth time rectification / fixing of Ascendant, which may

>

> > require further inputs and study, it can be observed that -

>

> >

>

> > * Your BP problem is due to debilitation of Sun in D-9 and Debilitation of Marsin D-6 Chart. Mars being dispositor of current dasha (irrespective of ascendant) also matters here.

>

> > * Weak Sun is also responsible for Job related problems though there must be other reasons as well.Best Regards,

>

> > Deepak Sharma

>

> >

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> >

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> > gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 >

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> >

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> > ancient_indian_ astrology

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> > Tue, December 1, 2009 6:47:41 PM

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> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

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> >

>

> >

>

> > Dear Puneet,

>

> > according to my knowledge it will give the efects of both houses as well as 5thH since it is retro and you yourself are confirming it.Do not also forget as you said it will give lagna/12thH afects which you also mentioned.Anyway since it is a sandhi lagna i feel the birth time need to be checked/rectified. ......

>

> > Love and regards,

>

> > gopi.

>

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:

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> > >

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> > > Dear Gopi

>

> > > I am getting bad effects as Venus is also retrograde and sincrely think it is bad effects of 6 house as  if venus in 7 then it aspects lagna then I must definitely get good effects.

>

> > > Venus Dasa started in 1993 Iit was giving good effects till 2001 after that it has been giving bad effects ,you can say from 1993 to 2001 it gave 7 house effects and since 201 it is giving 6 house bhava effects-is  this possible---- --------- -------Â

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> > > RegardsPuneet Ahuja

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> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

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> > > Are you really getting bad effects is the crux of the matter.If so only then Bhava chart should be considered.But my personal opinion is both 6 as well as 7H could give bad effects but those bad effects vary and you know why.....

>

> > > Love and regards,

>

> > > gopi.

>

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:

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> > > >

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> > > > DEAR GIRISH

>

> > > > Thanks for your mailMy details are ÃÆ'‚Â Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm ÃÆ'‚Â My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart.

>

> > > > Kindly give your advise for above.

>

> > > > Warm RegardsPuneet AhujaÃÆ'‚Â

>

> > > >

>

> > > > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon horamag@ wrote:

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> > > >

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> > > > Girish menon horamag@

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> > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

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Dear Deepakji,

 

You could be right when you consider the

larger picture.

 

Thanks

 

Santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of deepak sharma

Thursday, December 03, 2009

12:14 PM

 

Re:

Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Santosh Ji,

I do agree with your view about the significations of Moon and Mars

and appreciate your knowledge on the subject.

Moon should be given more weightage than Mars for " blood "

and you rightly said " Moon represents

the flow ad vitality of the blood

in its liquid form " . However, if we do not even relate

" blood " with Mars

at all, role of Mars is still important for BP / Cardiac cases as it rules

Muscular parts also (mentioned in my first mail of this thread).

 

I'm presenting below notes of a medical research to make you

understand why I suggested Mars for BP / Cardiac problems -

==>>Heart failure occurs when cardiac muscle is damaged and scartissue

replaces beating cardiac muscle cells.

==>>Bone marrow extract is just as effective as bone marrow

 

 

 

 

stem cells

for improving cardiac function, particularly after a heart attack.

Even in the process of High / low BP, muscular system cant be ignored.

Best Regards,

Deepak Sharma

 

 

 

 

Santhosh

<santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

 

Thu, December 3, 2009

10:57:03 AM

RE:

Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

Dear Deepakji,

 

Thanks for your understanding. However, I still wish to clarify

that mars is not directly related to blood. Mars represents bone marrow that

produces blood as well as the RBC in the blood that gives it the color.

Generally some diseases of blood such as blood cancer are directly connected to

the RBC in the blood. That’s when mars come into picture. Moon represents the

flow ad vitality of the blood in its liquid form (sloka 29 of uttarakalamrita)

and any affliction to moon affects this flow. If you notice in Puneet ji’s

chart, moon is in papamadhyasthithi. Hence, although moon has pakshabala it is

weak because of papamadhyasthithi. This affliction of moon with neechasthithi

of guru has led to the current problem of puneetji, which has aggravated in the

period of venus which is in rogastana with vrishabha lagna. You will also

notice that for vrishabha lagna guru and venus both are maraka grahas.

 

I am aware that sloka 33 of uttarakalamrita mentions blood as one

of the significations of mars. But as is normal, teachings of acharyas like

mihiracharya, parasharamuni etc take over that of kalidasa when there is a

conflict or doubt or clarity is required.

 

Regards

 

Santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

ancient_indian_ astrology

[ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of deepak sharma

Wednesday, December 02, 2009

12:46 PM

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

[ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear

Santosh,

Thanks for giving your further opinion.

Moon and Mars - both signify blood (Uttarakalamrita)

Sun, Moon, Mars, 4th House & Jupiter should be considered for BP / Heart

Problems.

As Jupiter governs arteries, Its role is important for BP cases.

I missed this in earlier mail - Thanks for raising this point.

//BP Definition in this context (taken from www.mayoclinic. com)

Blood pressure is determined by the amount of blood your heart pumps and the amount

of resistance to blood flow in your arteries. The more blood your heart pumps and

the narrower your arteries, the higher your blood pressure //

Best Regards,

Deepak Sharma

 

 

 

 

" santhosh@sudhamayi .com "

<santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

Wed, December 2, 2009

7:10:57 AM

Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology]

Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

Dear

deepak,

I misstook d4. My mistake and apologies.

 

I beg to differ with you on the signification for mars. Mars signifies bone

marrow and not blood.

Bone marrow works to produce blood and it has got nothing to do with the blood

preasure. This could be due to deposits in the blood of colestrol and fat.

Thats why bp and colestrol generally come together. Jupiter signifies fats and

colestrol. You will see in his chart that ju is in neecha.

His roga time started in venus dasa which in 6h after rectification. What roga?

Because of ju, bp is definitely in picture. Ask him about colestrol also.

By the way chandra signifies blood not moon. Here it means all liquid in the

body including blood.

I hope it is clear

Regards

Santhosh

Sent from

BlackBerry® on Airtel

 

 

 

 

 

deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ >

 

 

Date:

Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:26:42 -0800 (PST)

 

 

To:

<ancient_indian_ astrology>

 

 

Subject:

Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Santhosh,

 

 

Kindly go

through my earlier mail again -

1.) D-4 Chart is not considered at all,

2.) D-9 is considered to check the strength of Sun. Anything Strange?

3.) Is it Strange to go into Shashtamsha Chart (D-6) for diseases?

// can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp //

Mars ruling muscular parts and blood should be checked for BP cases.

Best Regards,

Deepak Sharma

 

 

 

 

" santhosh@sudhamayi .com " <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT)

com>

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

Tue, December 1, 2009

10:19:59 PM

[ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

Dear

deepak,

 

Thats strange going into d6 and d4. Further, can you please elucidate on the

connection between mars and bp. Where did you get it from?

Regards

Santhosh

Sent from

BlackBerry® on Airtel

 

 

 

 

 

deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ >

 

 

Date:

Tue, 1 Dec 2009 08:27:53 -0800 (PST)

 

 

To:

<ancient_indian_ astrology>

 

 

Subject:

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Puneet

Ji,

Without going into Birth time rectification / fixing of Ascendant, which may

require further inputs and study, it can be observed that -

 

Your BP problem is due to debilitation of Sun in

D-9 and Debilitation of Mars in D-6 Chart. Mars being dispositor of

current dasha (irrespective of ascendant) also matters here.

Weak Sun is also responsible for Job related

problems though there must be other reasons as well.

 

Best

Regards,

Deepak Sharma

 

 

 

gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 >

 

ancient_indian_ astrology

Tue, December 1, 2009

6:47:41 PM

[ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

Dear Puneet,

according to my knowledge it will give the efects of both houses as well as

5thH since it is retro and you yourself are confirming it.Do not also forget as

you said it will give lagna/12thH afects which you also mentioned.Anyway

since it is a sandhi lagna i feel the birth time need to be checked/rectified.

.......

Love and regards,

gopi.

ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet

ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Gopi

> I am getting bad effects as Venus is also retrograde and sincrely think it

is bad effects of 6 house as  if venus in 7 then it aspects lagna then I

must definitely get good effects.

> Venus Dasa started in 1993 Iit was giving good effects till 2001 after

that it has been giving bad effects ,you can say from 1993 to 2001 it gave 7

house effects and since 201 it is giving 6 house bhava effects-is  this

possible---- --------- -------Â

> RegardsPuneet Ahuja

>

> --- On Mon, 30/11/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. . wrote:

>

> gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. .

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> ancient_indian_ astrology

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> Are you really getting bad effects is the crux of the matter.If so only

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as 7H could give bad effects but those bad effects vary and you know why.....

> Love and regards,

> gopi.

> ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet ahuja

<punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > DEAR GIRISH

> > Thanks for your mailMy details are  Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time

10.10pm  My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7

house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more

negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart.

> > Kindly give your advise for above.

> > Warm RegardsPuneet AhujaÂÂ

> >

> > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon horamag@ wrote:

> >

> > Girish menon horamag@

> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

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Dear Girish,

 

In other words you propose that we mix two

different systems just so that we can explain a situation when we do a post

mortem. I think that wont help when you do a progastination for the future. You

will also remember the advice of Sreenadh ji that mixing two systems may not be

a good idea.

 

Anyway, can you tell me the method of

arriving at the D6 positions as per the said jaimini system. I have not studied

even the basics of jaimini.

 

Regards

 

Santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Girish menon

Thursday, December 03, 2009

2:09 PM

 

Subject:

Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear Santosh

If you go back to your list of 16 vargas as per parashara, there is no

shastamsha

You are right

Maitreya supports in addition, Sastamsa (D6) and Ashtamsa (D8) of Jaimini

system.

In parashara software it is also called sastamsa

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Dear Deepakji,

 

// D-30 (trimsamsa) & D-6

(shashthamsa) are considered in both S/Ws.//

 

This is exactly my problem.

Let me explain the rule for finding the

trimsamsa.

 

For Odd rashi:-

Planet falling in first 5 degree is in

mars trimshamsa

Planet falling in next 5 degree is in Saturn

trimshamsa

Planet falling in next 8 degree is in Jupiter

trimshamsa

Planet falling in next 7 degree is in mercury

trimshamsa

Planet falling in last 5 degree is in venus

trimshamsa

 

For Even Rashi it is reversed as follows:-

Planet falling in first 5 degree is in Venus

trimshamsa

Planet falling in next 7 degree is in Mercury

trimshamsa

Planet falling in next 8 degree is in Jupiter

trimshamsa

Planet falling in next 5 degree is in Saturn

trimshamsa

Planet falling in last 5 degree is in Mars

trimshamsa

 

For example if Mars is in Aries 8 degree.

Then Aries being Odd Rashi, Mars will fall in Saturn’s Trimshamsa.

Now Saturn has two houses, Capricorn and Aquarius.

So which house of Saturn will you place Mars in????

This is exactly why

Trimshamsa chart cannot be drawn. We can

only say that mars is in saturn’s trimsamsha and we cannot say the rashi.

So when we depend on trimshama in j/hora

or parasara light, how can we talk about exaltation or debitation etc. we can

only state if it is in a friend’s or enemy’s amsa.

 

Since the D6 shashthamsa as per j/hora is

not sanctified under the shodashavarga system I have no idea how that is calculated

and how diseases etc can be studied from that. As per shodashavarga, trimshamsa

is for diseases and evils.

 

One more point I noticed is that in j/hora

the hora chart is not as per the system prescribed. As per hora varga every

planet ca fall only under sun’s or moon’s varga and not any other

planet’s varga. However the proponent of j/hora has used a cyclical

system to allocate the hora varga position.

 

Regards

 

Santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of deepak sharma

Thursday, December 03, 2009

3:30 PM

 

Re:

Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Santhosh Ji,

Girish Ji has replied about your doubt.

D-30 (trimsamsa) & D-6 (shashthamsa) are considered in both S/Ws.

Best Regards,

Deepak Sharma

 

 

 

 

 

" santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com " <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

 

Thu, December 3, 2009

1:20:47 PM

Re:

Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

Dear

deepakji,

I am traveling now and hence cannot refer chart or books. So i would like you

to do something for me. In j hora, d6 is mentioned as shastamsha.

If you go back to your list of 16 vargas as per parashara, there is no

shastamsha and there is only shashiamsha which is division of 60 and not 6.

So this chart in j hora is confusing me. Now in the 16 vargas there is one

named trimshamsa, which division of rashi into 6 unequal parts according to a

special formula and it is looked for evils and diseases. Now is this what j

hora considers too and have they used a different name? If so pls check if the

chart is as per this special formula for trimshamsha.

Thanks and regards

Santhosh

Sent from

BlackBerry® on Airtel

 

 

 

 

deepak sharma

<deepak_rptech@ >

 

 

Wed, 2 Dec

2009 22:59:31 -0800 (PST)

 

 

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Re:

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Santhosh Ji,

Thank you so much for your warm reply and kind understanding.

I used Parashara Light version 6.1 for this chart. Sometimes I use J.hora.

Look forward to your valued opinion about D-6 / J. hora as you

mentioned. Thanks again.

Best Regards,

Deepak Sharma

 

 

 

 

Santhosh

<santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

Thu, December 3, 2009

11:04:07 AM

RE: [ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

Dear Deepakji,

 

//Who told

you - I went straight to D-6 and D-9 without looking at the degrees of planets,

their aspects / conjunctions etc in Natal Chart? Did I mention this anywhere?

In my two liner, I also justified that I looked into current period of native

also.

This is just to bring to your kind notice.//

 

Your post

mentioned only analysis of d6 and d9 and I didn’t see any mention of

analysis of rashi and hence my comment. Your reaction shows that I have touched

a raw nerve and hence my apologies. Every astrologer has his own way of going

about looking at the chart and I have no right questing other’s style.

 

Nevertheless,

I would like to mention a few words about D6.

Can you

please clarify if you got this chart from j/hora software. Once you clarify I

need to tell you something that I observed and we can then seek clarification

from seniors like sreenadhji.

 

Regards and

best wishes

Santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

ancient_indian_ astrology

[ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of deepak sharma

Wednesday, December 02, 2009

2:37 PM

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

[ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear

Santosh,

I wonder my two liner reply brings so much of your kind attention.

I think you should go through the mail again based on which you've raised a few

 

doubts and written some good basics of astrology.

// In your analsyis you straight away went to d6 and d9 for arriving at a

conclusion //

Who told you - I went straight to D-6 and D-9 without looking at the degrees of

planets,

their aspects / conjunctions etc in Natal Chart? Did I mention this anywhere?

In my two liner, I also justified that I looked into current period of native

also.

This is just to bring to your kind notice.

// But if you cannot derive something from a rashi chart yet you see that in a

varga

position it cannot be a conclusive prediction //

I did not make any prediction in my mail. I did not even claim to analyze

something

completely as I wrote // there must be other reasons as well //

However, based on the general signications of Sun (Heart, Employment) and Mars

(Muscular system & blood) whose degrees / aspects were known based on the

given

time, I just gave couple of contibutory factors for employment and BP problem

of

the native.

And I doubt if general signication of planets and current period also get

changed

drastically with a few minutes of time difference in Natal Chart.

I also mentioned in the mail // there must be other reasons as well//

and // ...which may require further inputs and study //

Best Regards,

Deepak Sharma

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

Wed, December 2, 2009

12:10:05 PM

RE: [ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

Dear Deepak,

 

Allow me to say something too on this which might be further

clarified by manojji.

 

In your analsyis you straight away went to d6 and d9 for arriving

at a conclusion. Please remember that varga positions of planets are mainly

used for assessing the strength of the planet in the rashi chart and it is used

for cross verification of points noticed in the rashi chart.

 

Your primary analysis should be based on the rashi chart and then

you can substantiate it from the varga position. But if you cannot derive

something from a rashi chart yet you see that in a varga position it cannot be

a conclusive prediction. You will notice that all along I use the phrase varga

position and not varga chart because in traditional astrology there is no such

thing as varga chart. It is available only in computer software. It is the

position of the planet in the main rashi chart when the rashi is sub-divided

into different parts which pin points an issue noticed in the rashi chart.

 

Now coming to your question in the email below. You are right just

because 6th house is weak you cannot say divorce. It has to be cross

verified with 7th house and its lord, varga positions of 7th

lord, planets in 7th house, attributes of karaka for marriage, venus

etc to arrive at a conclusion because 6th house signifies many other

things also, derived or primary.

 

Regards

 

Santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

ancient_indian_ astrology

[ancient_ indian_astrology ] On Behalf Of deepak sharma

Wednesday, December 02, 2009

10:56 AM

ancient_indian_ astrology@

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Re: [ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Manoj

Ji,

 

Thank you so

much for your valued opinion and I do agree with the rules you

mentioned.

I'm giving a hypothetical example to share my views on the subject -

If sixth house of a native is extremely weak /afflicted. Say its lord is weak

on multiple

accounts like combustion, debilitation, debilitation in D-9 & other D-

Charts, afflictions etc

Can we predict divorce or family / marriage disputes from this?

My opinion - Despite extreme afflictions or weaknesses to sixth house, the

native

may not suffer at all regarding the family matters / divorce. Native may have a

happy

married life.

Why - Because " Divorce " is not the " Primary signification "

of Sixth house.

This is a " Derived signification " based on some rules.

The Primary signfication is the " dispute / litigation " (of course

many others)

When this " dispute / litigation " has some association with the houses

/ significators

of marriage / family, a native is likely to face family or marital

disputes resulting in

divorce.

If such an extremely weak and afflicted 6th house has no association with the

houses /

significators of marriage / family, it can not give divorce or disputes among

family members.

(Please note - " Derived Significations " or " Primary

Significations " of 6th house may

not be mentioned in any of the books. I've used the terms to convey my

message.)

Best Regards,

Deepak Sharma

 

 

 

 

Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

Wed, December 2, 2009

6:21:18 AM

Re: [ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

Dear Deepak Ji,

 

Here are my views on it: 6H is 12th from the 7th. 6H is also the house of

litigation. For both these reasons it is definitely the house for divorce.

 

Now there is another contreversial rule I learned from one of my teachers. 6H

is also the house of " the other one " or the " person one is

having an affair with " . I forget the explanation for this, but apparently

Parashara mentions this in one of his shlokas. So along with the 2H, 6H also

can lead to " divorce due to interference from outside " .

 

 

 

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ >

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

Tue, December 1, 2009

1:58:17 PM

Re: [ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

Dear Santosh

Ji,

Is the Sixth house treated as " House of Divorce " as you mentioned

below?

May I ask you to throw some light upon this. Thank you.

 

 

Best

Regards,

Deepak Sharma

 

 

 

 

" santhosh@sudhamayi .com "

<santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

Tue, December 1, 2009

8:24:19 PM

Re: [ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

Thats

good surmise. That explains very well. Nevertheless, 7th lord is in the house

of divorce or marital problems. But being in own navamsha, imparts some

strength to the 7th bhava.

Regards

Santhosh

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BlackBerry® on Airtel

 

 

 

 

 

Girish menon <horamag >

 

 

Date:

Tue, 1 Dec 2009 04:59:58 -0800 (PST)

 

 

To:

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Subject:

Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Santosh

Interseting case

study about wrong birth time.

The time 10:10

is not correct

Within 3 minutes

23 seconds his lagna changes to scorpio

Now if we

calculate the lagna from scorpio as puneet said

Negative

is due to health after 2002 having BP problems,profession al problems in

job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in family health and career.

Gives more

clarity

Dear Puneetji

I feel the bhava

cakra is not the issue here but the wrong time which I don’t blame you

for that

Thanks and

regards

Girish

 

 

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puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com>

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

ancient_indian_ astrology

Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 4:16 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Santhosh

 

Negative is due to health after 2002 having BP problems,profession al

problems in job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in family health and

career.

 

Regards

Puneet Ahuja

 

--- On Mon, 30/11/09, Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

wrote:

 

Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

ancient_indian_ astrology

Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:37 PM

 

 

 

Dear Puneet,

 

Can you please clarify the negative effect?

Is it related to marriage, children or health?

 

Regards

Santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of puneet ahuja

Tuesday, December 01,

2009 11:27 AM

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

Re: [ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

DEAR

GIRISH

 

 

 

 

Place-Mumbai

 

 

 

 

 

Regards

 

 

Puneet

Ahuja

 

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wrote:

 

puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com>

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

ancient_indian_ astrology

Monday, 30 November, 2009, 8:25 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

DEAR

GIRISH

 

 

 

 

Thanks

for your mail

 

 

My

details are Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm

 

 

My

question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but

in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative

effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart.

 

 

 

 

 

Kindly

give your advise for above.

 

 

 

 

 

Warm

Regards

 

 

Puneet

Ahuja

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon <horamag >

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Girish menon <horamag >

Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

ancient_indian_ astrology

Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Puneet ji

Can you please give us your chart details

Thanks

Girish

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Puneet ji,

 

J/hora is available free for download on http://www.vedicastrologer.org/jh/

 

Regards

 

Santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of puneet ahuja

Thursday, December 03, 2009

3:48 PM

 

RE:

Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

DEAR SANTHOSHJI

 

 

 

 

Thanks for your reply

 

 

You are right Ketu-Mars starts in June89 and divorce

came through in Nov89

 

 

No child from first marriage but have son from

second marriage in Nov96

 

 

You are right I have to take it as Scorpio lagna but

love affair-Mercury in 5 and loss of child from second marraige-Ketu in

5 these are traits of Libra Lagna.

 

 

 

 

 

Can you help me in getting a copy of j/hora.

 

 

I am working in a software company as GM -MARKETING

looking fter business development for software projects.

 

 

 

 

 

Regards

 

 

Puneet Ahuja

 

--- On Wed, 2/12/09, Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

wrote:

 

Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

RE: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

Wednesday, 2 December, 2009, 10:06 PM

 

 

 

Dear Puneetji,

 

Thanks for the details.

 

Although I feel scorpio lagna better explains your life story, I

am not an expert in brith time rectification. I feel someone like Neelamji is

better positioned to do this. I hope she helps you to ascertain the correct

lagna.

 

Further I have been noticing some inconsistencies in the dasa

periods mentioned. Which software have you used to arrive at the dasa

periods? You mercury dasa starts in December 1969 as per j/hora. Similarly

ketu-mars is from June 1989.

 

Any children from your first marriage? Any children now from your

second marriage? What were you working as?

 

Regards’

 

Santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of puneet ahuja

Wednesday, December 02,

2009 8:10 PM

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

RE: [ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear

SANTOSHJI

 

As my Mercury dasa started in end Dec71 my father who was working in

Airlines got promoted to GM and we were transferred to Delhi .

I completed my education graduation,MBA in Mercury Dasa ,bought a house where

I was staying for 10 years in 1985 during Mercury-Saturn in 1985 got

married had a love affair and got married in OCT 1986.

 

Ketu dasa was very very bad had a divorce in Ketu-MARS in 1988, our tenants

with help of some high official filed a criminal case against me and my

father regarding our house.

We had to leave our house and stay in a rented place

During Nov89 we sold our old house and bought a new luxury flat where I am

staying since last 20 years.

During Ketu-Rahu Got remarried ,loss of issue was in OCT 1992

Ketu Dasa was very very bad which shows bad effects of Ketu in 5 if you

take Libra lagna

 

During Venus-Venus end it gave us inheritance of big money from my

uncle who had expired and left his property in my fathers name. .

Venus was very good till 2001 ,Bad period started from Venus-RAHU,Venus

-jupiter Venus-Saturn was okay gave me a overseas trip to Doha for my job.

Having lot of hopes on Venus-Mercury starting from 19dec2009.

 

Mercury Dasa has given ,more of Lbra LAGNA effects,love affair into

marriage and loss of marriage by Ketu in 5 and loss of issue by Ketu in 5.

 

I have just given you my details so that you can understand better

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wrote:

 

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RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

ancient_indian_ astrology

Tuesday, 1 December, 2009, 10:55 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Puneet,

 

//But

if we take Scorpio lagna then my Mercury dasa which was excellent

cannot be explained with Scorpio lagna.//

 

Let

us consider this. Can you break this period of mercury dasa into 2 and tell

me which half was better. Further, when you say excellent, in what terms it

was excellent we can then possibly arrive at a satisfactory answer.

 

Where

you employed in Govt service? And was it a uniformed service?

 

Regards

 

Santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com [ancient_ indian_astrology ] On Behalf Of puneet ahuja

Wednesday, December 02,

2009 9:49 AM

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

Re: [ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

DEAR

Deepakji/Manojji/ Santhoshji/ Girishji

 

 

 

 

Time

has been correctly recorded at the hospital when I was born,have

rechecked the same By your views, I think you are suggesting that my

lagna is Scorpio and Venus as 6 lord is giiving me bad effects.

 

 

Sun

would become strong as for Scorpio lagna ,it is lord of 10 placed in 5

and RAHU is placed in 10 house in house of Sun that way carrer

wouls have been good if it is Scorpio lagna.

 

 

Yes

Sun being neecha in navamsa makes it weak and I have to be very very

careful in Sun dasa starting in 2013 from litigation,bad luck and health

problems.

 

 

 

 

 

But

if we take Scorpio lagna then my Mercury dasa which was excellent

cannot be explained with Scorpio lagna.

 

 

 

 

 

Kindly

give your views for the above

 

 

 

 

 

Warm

Regards

 

 

Puneet

Ahuja

--- On Tue, 1/12/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >

wrote:

 

Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >

Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

ancient_indian_ astrology

Tuesday, 1 December, 2009, 4:51 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear

Deepak Ji,

 

Here are my views on it: 6H is 12th from the 7th. 6H is also the house of

litigation. For both these reasons it is definitely the house for

divorce.

 

Now there is another contreversial rule I learned from one of my

teachers. 6H is also the house of " the other one " or the

" person one is having an affair with " . I forget the explanation

for this, but apparently Parashara mentions this in one of his shlokas.

So along with the 2H, 6H also can lead to " divorce due to

interference from outside " .

 

 

 

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

deepak

sharma <deepak_rptech@ >

ancient_indian_

astrology

Tue, December 1, 2009

1:58:17 PM

Re:

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

Dear Santosh Ji,

Is the Sixth house treated as " House of Divorce " as you

mentioned below?

May I ask you to throw some light upon this. Thank you.

 

 

Best Regards,

Deepak Sharma

 

 

 

 

 

" santhosh@sudhamayi .com " <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

ancient_indian_

astrology

Tue, December 1, 2009

8:24:19 PM

Re:

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Thats

good surmise. That explains very well. Nevertheless, 7th lord is in the

house of divorce or marital problems. But being in own navamsha, imparts

some strength to the 7th bhava.

Regards

Santhosh

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Re: [ancient_indian_

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Dear

Santosh

Interseting

case study about wrong birth time.

The

time 10:10 is not correct

Within

3 minutes 23 seconds his lagna changes to scorpio

Now

if we calculate the lagna from scorpio as puneet said

Negative

is due to health after 2002 having BP problems,profession al problems

in job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in family health and

career.

Gives

more clarity

Dear

Puneetji

I

feel the bhava cakra is not the issue here but the wrong time which I

don’t blame you for that

Thanks

and regards

Girish

 

 

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puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com>

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

ancient_indian_ astrology

Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 4:16 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Santhosh

 

Negative is due to health after 2002 having BP

problems,profession al problems in job,whatever I am doing I face a

problem,in family health and career.

 

Regards

Puneet Ahuja

 

--- On Mon, 30/11/09, Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

wrote:

 

Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

ancient_indian_ astrology

Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:37 PM

 

 

 

Dear Puneet,

 

Can you please clarify the negative

effect? Is it related to marriage, children or health?

 

Regards

Santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ancient_indian_ astrology [ ancient_indian_

astrology ] On

Behalf Of puneet ahuja

Tuesday, December

01, 2009 11:27 AM

ancient_indian_

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Re:

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DEAR GIRISH

 

 

 

 

Place-Mumbai

 

 

 

 

 

Regards

 

 

Puneet Ahuja

 

--- On Mon, 30/11/09, puneet

ahuja <punsoft2003@

grouply.com> wrote:

 

puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com>

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

ancient_indian_ astrology

Monday, 30 November, 2009, 8:25 PM

 

 

 

 

 

DEAR GIRISH

 

 

 

 

Thanks for your mail

 

 

My details are Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm

 

 

 

My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is

in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am

getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava

chart.

 

 

 

 

 

Kindly give your advise for above.

 

 

 

 

 

Warm Regards

 

 

Puneet Ahuja

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish

menon <horamag >

wrote:

 

Girish menon <horamag >

Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

ancient_indian_ astrology

Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Puneet ji

Can you please give us your chart details

Thanks

Girish

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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