BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

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Dear Gopalji,

 

So what is the interesting thing about

Bhava Chalit that you have stumbled upon?

 

Best wishes

Santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of gopalakrishna

Monday, November 30, 2009

10:53 AM

 

Subject:

Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sreenadh ji,

thanks a lot for the detailed explanation as usual.I think that's how the

research goes on and on....

//So we should better spell his name

as " Sripati " .//

Like " sreenadh " ha ha.....or not

like " sreenadh " ?

Sripati must be great since the said chart seems to be working great in the

spiritual charts of mahatmas.That's why i raised the topic.Rest later....

Love and regards,

gopi.

,

" sreesog " <sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear Gopi ji,

> I agree with Manoj ji. By the way, it is correct to spell his name as

" Sripati " , because here " Sri " is not placed as token of

respect or salutation, but instead the " Sri " is part of his name

itself, and so it should be spelled " Sripati " . Even

" Sripathi " may not be right since " th " is spelled similar

to the pronounciation of the same in the word " Rath " (Chariot) or

" Path " (path). 't' is pronounced as in 'Tal' (lake) or 'Tantric'. So

we should better spell his name as " Sripati " .

> It 'seems' that Sripati 'introduced'/'invented' many unique systems

such as 'Bhava Chalit', 'Gochara-Vedha positions for planets' etc since no

reference regarding the same before him is available. Anyway we CANNOT be

certain on this as there is always a chance that some ancient reference could

pop-up pointing to the fact that these were in place as part of some school of

thought before him itself. For example, even though no clear reference is

available, some ascribe 'Gochara-Vedha' system to 'Vasishta' - which Vasishtra,

what is his period - all controversial. Ascribing this 'invention' to him may

or may not be true. But as per our current understanding certainly these system

are possibly invented and certainly popularized by Sripati.

> It is also true that the ancient Rishi horas such as Skanda, Kousikas,

Garga, Sounaka, Yavana (Yavanacharya, spujidwaja, meenaraja), Mihira,

Krishnacharya etc DO NOT support these theories. Rest upto you.

> Love and regards,

> Sreenadh

>

> ,

Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Gopi Ji,

> >

> > Bhava Chalit was introduced by Sri Pathi. No other astrologer before

him nor any major classic before that time period ever mentioned even a

single word about it. So it is clear that Sri Pathi was the founder of

this system.

> >

> > We already had an " animated " discussion on this subject, if

you refer to the archives, you can find it. It is a contreversial system

and primarily used by North Indian astrologers. But due to more open mindedness

in modern day and willingness to research, South Indian astrologers have

also started trying it out.

> >

> > Proof of the pudding is in its eating .... so try it out

and see if it works for you.

> > Â

> > Regards,

> > Â -Manoj

> > ________________________________

> > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@

> >

> > Sun, November 29, 2009 9:49:10 AM

> > BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> >

> > Â

> > Dear Ones,

> > please let me have what ever information about bhava/chalit

chakra.What is its root?Which classic mentioned it?Etc etc... since i found it

it very interesting and i stumbled upon something regarding it in my own

study/research or whatever.

> > Love and regards,

> > gopi.

> >

>

 

 

 

 

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Yes Sreenadh ji,i know.But your parents are right i believe since ''d'' is more apropriate than 't'.......as per sanskrit alphabet.Love and regards,gopi.

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Dear Santosh ji,I have stumbled upon some thing spiritual conected to Bhava/chalit charts in quite a few Mahatmas charts as i have mentioned to Sreenadh ji.I am still working on them deeply...Love and regards,gopi.-

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Dear SirsKindly clarify if the lagna chnages in BHAVA CHART then predictions would be from lagna chart or bhava chart for Dasa.RegardsPuneet Ahuja--- On Sun, 29/11/09, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 wrote:gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Date: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 9:11 PM

 

 

 

Dear Manoj ji,you are right.Thank you for the info.I feel any system introduced by anybody/any clasic should never be brushed aside simply because it is given to the future generations only after finding it working for themselves.So when yousaid proof of the pudding is in its eating you are right.I will sure check it out......and even if it doesnt work for me i dont blame the system since i have no right....Love and regards,gopi.ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Gopi Ji,> > Bhava Chalit was introduced by Sri Pathi. No other astrologer before him nor any major classic before that time period ever mentioned even a single word about it. So it is clear that Sri Pathi was the founder of this system.> > We already had an "animated" discussion on this subject, if you refer to the archives, you

can find it. It is a contreversial system and primarily used by North Indian astrologers. But due to more open mindedness in modern day and willingness to research, South Indian astrologers have also started trying it out.> > Proof of the pudding is in its eating .... so try it out and see if it works for you.>  > Regards,>  -Manoj>  > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. .> ancient_indian_ astrology> Sun, November 29, 2009 9:49:10 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> >  > Dear Ones,> please let me have what ever information about bhava/chalit chakra.What is its root?Which classic mentioned it?Etc etc... since i found it it very interesting and i stumbled upon

something regarding it in my own study/research or whatever.> Love and regards,> gopi.>

 

 

 

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Dear Puneet ji,

 

Namaste.

 

Can a " Non-Sir " answer your question?

 

Lagna and rashis " do Not " change in bhava chalit, only the planets move to

diffent houses depending on their degrees..

 

eg if lagna is 28 deg aries, then planets placed in 0-13 deg aries will be in

12H, pisces in Bhava chalit chart,

 

Say jupiter is placed in 10 deg aries, it will give effects of being placed in

aries sign, but the bhava effects will be that of the 12th house.

 

Aspects are considered from 1st house for general effects.

 

Hope that clarifies your understanding.

 

warmest regards

Sheevani

 

, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003

wrote:

>

> Dear Sirs

>

> Kindly clarify if the lagna chnages in BHAVA CHART then predictions  would be

from lagna chart or bhava chart for Dasa.

>

> Regards

> Puneet Ahuja

>

> --- On Sun, 29/11/09, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 wrote:

>

> gopalakrishna <gopi_b927

> Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

>

> Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 9:11 PM

>

 

>

>

>

>

Dear Manoj ji,

> you are right.Thank you for the info.I feel any system introduced by

anybody/any clasic should never be brushed aside simply because it is given to

the future generations only after finding it working for themselves.So when

yousaid proof of the pudding is in its eating you are right.I will sure check it

out......and even if it doesnt work for me i dont blame the system since i have

no right....

> Love and regards,

> gopi.

> ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Gopi Ji,

> >

> > Bhava Chalit was introduced by Sri Pathi. No other astrologer before

him nor any major classic before that time period ever mentioned even a

single word about it. So it is clear that Sri Pathi was the founder of this

system.

> >

> > We already had an " animated " discussion on this subject, if you refer to the

archives, you can find it. It is a contreversial system and primarily used by

North Indian astrologers. But due to more open mindedness in modern day and

willingness to research, South Indian astrologers have also started trying it

out.

> >

> > Proof of the pudding is in its eating .... so try it out and see if

it works for you.

> >  

> > Regards,

> >  -Manoj

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ .

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Sun, November 29, 2009 9:49:10 AM

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> >

> >  

> > Dear Ones,

> > please let me have what ever information about bhava/chalit chakra.What is

its root?Which classic mentioned it?Etc etc... since i found it it very

interesting and i stumbled upon something regarding it in my own study/research

or whatever.

> > Love and regards,

> > gopi.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Non-Sir,

 

Valid doubt on addressing the forum. The

best way is to address a person directly and respectfully or alternatively if

you wish to address everybody, dear members, dear list, dear forum members,

dear friends are appropriate.

 

Your clarification on bhava chalit is

crystal clear. But there are deferring views. Some astrologers do not consider

it at all. I am in favor of your view.

 

Regards

Santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Sheevani

Monday, November 30, 2009

5:20 PM

 

Subject:

Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Puneet ji,

 

Namaste.

 

Can a " Non-Sir " answer your question?

 

Lagna and rashis " do Not " change in bhava chalit, only the planets

move to diffent houses depending on their degrees..

 

eg if lagna is 28 deg aries, then planets placed in 0-13 deg aries will be in

12H, pisces in Bhava chalit chart,

 

Say jupiter is placed in 10 deg aries, it will give effects of being placed in

aries sign, but the bhava effects will be that of the 12th house.

 

Aspects are considered from 1st house for general effects.

 

Hope that clarifies your understanding.

 

warmest regards

Sheevani

 

,

puneet ahuja <punsoft2003 wrote:

>

> Dear Sirs

>

> Kindly clarify if the lagna chnages in BHAVA CHART then predictionsÂ

would be from lagna chart or bhava chart for Dasa.

>

> Regards

> Puneet Ahuja

>

> --- On Sun, 29/11/09, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 wrote:

>

> gopalakrishna <gopi_b927

> Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

>

> Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 9:11 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Â

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Manoj ji,

> you are right.Thank you for the info.I feel any system introduced by

anybody/any clasic should never be brushed aside simply because it is given to

the future generations only after finding it working for themselves.So when

yousaid proof of the pudding is in its eating you are right.I will sure check

it out......and even if it doesnt work for me i dont blame the system since i

have no right....

> Love and regards,

> gopi.

> ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Gopi Ji,

> >

> > Bhava Chalit was introduced by Sri Pathi. No other astrologer before

him nor any major classic before that time period ever mentioned

even a single word about it. So it is clear that Sri Pathi was

the founder of this system.

> >

> > We already had an " animated " discussion on this subject, if

you refer to the archives, you can find it. It is a contreversial

system and primarily used by North Indian astrologers. But due to more open

mindedness in modern day and willingness to research, South

Indian astrologers have also started trying it out.

> >

> > Proof of the pudding is in its eating

..... so try it out and see if it works for you.

> > ÂÂ

> > Regards,

> >  -Manoj

> > ÂÂ

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ .

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Sun, November 29, 2009 9:49:10 AM

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> >

> > ÂÂ

> > Dear Ones,

> > please let me have what ever information about bhava/chalit

chakra.What is its root?Which classic mentioned it?Etc etc... since i found it

it very interesting and i stumbled upon something regarding it in my own

study/research or whatever.

> > Love and regards,

> > gopi.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Santosh ji,

 

If you are inclined, then you may also go through the example wherein I

replied today to a member explaining why he got a marriage and a child -

explained through the Bhava Chalita Chart, which otherwise is not

understood through the commonly understood ways, but crystal clear

through the Bhava Chalit system.

 

regards,

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

, " Santhosh "

<santhosh wrote:

>

> Dear Non-Sir,

>

>

>

> Valid doubt on addressing the forum. The best way is to address a

person

> directly and respectfully or alternatively if you wish to address

everybody,

> dear members, dear list, dear forum members, dear friends are

appropriate.

>

>

>

> Your clarification on bhava chalit is crystal clear. But there are

deferring

> views. Some astrologers do not consider it at all. I am in favor of

your

> view.

>

>

>

> Regards

>

> Santhosh

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

> On Behalf Of

Sheevani

> Monday, November 30, 2009 5:20 PM

>

> Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Puneet ji,

>

> Namaste.

>

> Can a " Non-Sir " answer your question?

>

> Lagna and rashis " do Not " change in bhava chalit, only the planets

move to

> diffent houses depending on their degrees..

>

> eg if lagna is 28 deg aries, then planets placed in 0-13 deg aries

will be

> in 12H, pisces in Bhava chalit chart,

>

> Say jupiter is placed in 10 deg aries, it will give effects of being

placed

> in aries sign, but the bhava effects will be that of the 12th house.

>

> Aspects are considered from 1st house for general effects.

>

> Hope that clarifies your understanding.

>

> warmest regards

> Sheevani

>

> ancient_indian_

<%40>

> astrology , puneet ahuja punsoft2003@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sirs

> >

> > Kindly clarify if the lagna chnages in BHAVA CHART then

predictionsÂ

> would be from lagna chart or bhava chart for Dasa.

> >

> > Regards

> > Puneet Ahuja

> >

> > --- On Sun, 29/11/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ wrote:

> >

> > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@

> > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> > ancient_indian_

<%40>

> astrology

> > Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 9:11 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Manoj ji,

> > you are right.Thank you for the info.I feel any system introduced by

> anybody/any clasic should never be brushed aside simply because it is

given

> to the future generations only after finding it working for

themselves.So

> when yousaid proof of the pudding is in its eating you are right.I

will sure

> check it out......and even if it doesnt work for me i dont blame the

system

> since i have no right....

> > Love and regards,

> > gopi.

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran

> <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Gopi Ji,

> > >

> > > Bhava Chalit was introduced by Sri Pathi. No other astrologer

before

> him nor any major classic before that time period ever

mentioned even a

> single word about it. So it is clear that Sri Pathi was the

founder of

> this system.

> > >

> > > We already had an " animated " discussion on this subject, if you

refer to

> the archives, you can find it. It is a contreversial system and

primarily

> used by North Indian astrologers. But due to more open mindedness in

modern

> day and willingness to research, South Indian astrologers have

alsoÂÂ

> started trying it out.

> > >

> > > Proof of the pudding is in its eating .... so try it

out and

> see if it works for you.

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Regards,

> > >  -Manoj

> > > ÂÂ

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ .

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > Sun, November 29, 2009 9:49:10 AM

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> > >

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Dear Ones,

> > > please let me have what ever information about bhava/chalit

chakra.What

> is its root?Which classic mentioned it?Etc etc... since i found it it

very

> interesting and i stumbled upon something regarding it in my own

> study/research or whatever.

> > > Love and regards,

> > > gopi.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> >

> >

> >

> >

> > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

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> >

>

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Dear Santosh ji,

 

Namaste.

 

Thank you for your imput.

 

I just happen to notice that nobody has responded to Puneetji's request for

clarification, and as it was a simple matter, I thought I would respond.

 

When I re-read the mail, a thought did cross my mind,, " Am I excluded due to my

gender? " I just put that to lack of thought and responded anyway.

 

Hence the " Non-Sir " comment.

 

warmest regards

Sheevani

 

 

 

, " Santhosh " <santhosh

wrote:

>

> Dear Non-Sir,

>

>

>

> Valid doubt on addressing the forum. The best way is to address a person

> directly and respectfully or alternatively if you wish to address everybody,

> dear members, dear list, dear forum members, dear friends are appropriate.

>

>

>

> Your clarification on bhava chalit is crystal clear. But there are deferring

> views. Some astrologers do not consider it at all. I am in favor of your

> view.

>

>

>

> Regards

>

> Santhosh

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

> On Behalf Of Sheevani

> Monday, November 30, 2009 5:20 PM

>

> Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Puneet ji,

>

> Namaste.

>

> Can a " Non-Sir " answer your question?

>

> Lagna and rashis " do Not " change in bhava chalit, only the planets move to

> diffent houses depending on their degrees..

>

> eg if lagna is 28 deg aries, then planets placed in 0-13 deg aries will be

> in 12H, pisces in Bhava chalit chart,

>

> Say jupiter is placed in 10 deg aries, it will give effects of being placed

> in aries sign, but the bhava effects will be that of the 12th house.

>

> Aspects are considered from 1st house for general effects.

>

> Hope that clarifies your understanding.

>

> warmest regards

> Sheevani

>

> ancient_indian_ <%40>

> astrology , puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sirs

> >

> > Kindly clarify if the lagna chnages in BHAVA CHART then predictionsÂ

> would be from lagna chart or bhava chart for Dasa.

> >

> > Regards

> > Puneet Ahuja

> >

> > --- On Sun, 29/11/09, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927@> wrote:

> >

> > gopalakrishna <gopi_b927@>

> > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> astrology

> > Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 9:11 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Manoj ji,

> > you are right.Thank you for the info.I feel any system introduced by

> anybody/any clasic should never be brushed aside simply because it is given

> to the future generations only after finding it working for themselves.So

> when yousaid proof of the pudding is in its eating you are right.I will sure

> check it out......and even if it doesnt work for me i dont blame the system

> since i have no right....

> > Love and regards,

> > gopi.

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran

> <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Gopi Ji,

> > >

> > > Bhava Chalit was introduced by Sri Pathi. No other astrologer before

> him nor any major classic before that time period ever mentioned even a

> single word about it. So it is clear that Sri Pathi was the founder of

> this system.

> > >

> > > We already had an " animated " discussion on this subject, if you refer to

> the archives, you can find it. It is a contreversial system and primarily

> used by North Indian astrologers. But due to more open mindedness in modern

> day and willingness to research, South Indian astrologers have alsoÂÂ

> started trying it out.

> > >

> > > Proof of the pudding is in its eating .... so try it out and

> see if it works for you.

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Regards,

> > >  -Manoj

> > > ÂÂ

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ .

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > Sun, November 29, 2009 9:49:10 AM

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> > >

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Dear Ones,

> > > please let me have what ever information about bhava/chalit chakra.What

> is its root?Which classic mentioned it?Etc etc... since i found it it very

> interesting and i stumbled upon something regarding it in my own

> study/research or whatever.

> > > Love and regards,

> > > gopi.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Namaste sheevaniji,When you raised the issue of gender a thought came to me....Is there any classic in astrology written by by someone of the feminine gender? It would be interestiing to know their point of view.RegardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel "Sheevani" <sheevani147Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:38:03 -0000 Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Santosh ji,Namaste.Thank you for your imput.I just happen to notice that nobody has responded to Puneetji's request for clarification, and as it was a simple matter, I thought I would respond.When I re-read the mail, a thought did cross my mind,, " Am I excluded due to my gender? " I just put that to lack of thought and responded anyway.Hence the " Non-Sir " comment.warmest regardsSheevani , " Santhosh " <santhosh wrote:>> Dear Non-Sir,> > > > Valid doubt on addressing the forum. The best way is to address a person> directly and respectfully or alternatively if you wish to address everybody,> dear members, dear list, dear forum members, dear friends are appropriate.> > > > Your clarification on bhava chalit is crystal clear. But there are deferring> views. Some astrologers do not consider it at all. I am in favor of your> view.> > > > Regards> > Santhosh> > > > > >_____ > > > On Behalf Of Sheevani> Monday, November 30, 2009 5:20 PM> > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> > > > > > Dear Puneet ji,> > Namaste.> > Can a " Non-Sir " answer your question?> > Lagna and rashis " do Not " change in bhava chalit, only the planets move to> diffent houses depending on their degrees..> > eg if lagna is 28 deg aries, then planets placed in 0-13 deg aries will be> in 12H, pisces in Bhava chalit chart, > > Say jupiter is placed in 10 deg aries, it will give effects of being placed> in aries sign, but the bhava effects will be that of the 12th house.> > Aspects are considered from 1st house for general effects.> > Hope that clarifies your understanding.> > warmest regards> Sheevani> > ancient_indian_ <%40>> astrology , puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@> wrote:> >> > Dear Sirs> > > > Kindly clarify if the lagna chnages in BHAVA CHART then predictionsÂ> would be from lagna chart or bhava chart for Dasa.> > > > Regards> > Puneet Ahuja> > > > --- On Sun, 29/11/09, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927@> wrote:> > > > gopalakrishna <gopi_b927@>> > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> > ancient_indian_ <%40>> astrology > > Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 9:11 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji,> > you are right.Thank you for the info.I feel any system introduced by> anybody/any clasic should never be brushed aside simply because it is given> to the future generations only after finding it working for themselves.So> when yousaid proof of the pudding is in its eating you are right.I will sure> check it out......and even if it doesnt work for me i dont blame the system> since i have no right....> > Love and regards,> > gopi.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran> <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Gopi Ji,> > > > > > Bhava Chalit was introduced by Sri Pathi. No other astrologer before> him nor any major classic before that time period ever mentioned even a> single word about it. So it is clear that Sri Pathi was the founder of> this system.> > > > > > We already had an " animated " discussion on this subject, if you refer to> the archives, you can find it. It is a contreversial system and primarily> used by North Indian astrologers. But due to more open mindedness in modern> day and willingness to research, South Indian astrologers have alsoÂÂ> started trying it out.> > > > > > Proof of the pudding is in its eating .... so try it out and> see if it works for you.> > >  > > > Regards,> > >  -Manoj> > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________> > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ .> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Sun, November 29, 2009 9:49:10 AM> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> > > > > >  > > > Dear Ones,> > > please let me have what ever information about bhava/chalit chakra.What> is its root?Which classic mentioned it?Etc etc... since i found it it very> interesting and i stumbled upon something regarding it in my own> study/research or whatever.> > > Love and regards,> > > gopi.> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.> http://in.. <http://in./> com/> >> > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.87/2535 - Release 11/30/09> 01:01:00>

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Maadam Sheevani ji;

 

It is a matter of protocol; a lady in superior position is always addressed as

Sir, Chairperson instead of Chairlady, Your lordship if in judicial chair. there

is no bid deal like gender bias if someone uses Sir to addresses members who he

thinks are more mature in knowledge or experience.

 

Regards.

Kulbir

 

 

, " Sheevani " <sheevani147

wrote:

>

> Dear Santosh ji,

>

> Namaste.

>

> Thank you for your imput.

>

> I just happen to notice that nobody has responded to Puneetji's request for

clarification, and as it was a simple matter, I thought I would respond.

>

> When I re-read the mail, a thought did cross my mind,, " Am I excluded due to

my gender? " I just put that to lack of thought and responded anyway.

>

> Hence the " Non-Sir " comment.

>

> warmest regards

> Sheevani

>

>

>

> , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Non-Sir,

> >

> >

> >

> > Valid doubt on addressing the forum. The best way is to address a person

> > directly and respectfully or alternatively if you wish to address everybody,

> > dear members, dear list, dear forum members, dear friends are appropriate.

> >

> >

> >

> > Your clarification on bhava chalit is crystal clear. But there are deferring

> > views. Some astrologers do not consider it at all. I am in favor of your

> > view.

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Santhosh

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> >

> > On Behalf Of Sheevani

> > Monday, November 30, 2009 5:20 PM

> >

> > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Puneet ji,

> >

> > Namaste.

> >

> > Can a " Non-Sir " answer your question?

> >

> > Lagna and rashis " do Not " change in bhava chalit, only the planets move to

> > diffent houses depending on their degrees..

> >

> > eg if lagna is 28 deg aries, then planets placed in 0-13 deg aries will be

> > in 12H, pisces in Bhava chalit chart,

> >

> > Say jupiter is placed in 10 deg aries, it will give effects of being placed

> > in aries sign, but the bhava effects will be that of the 12th house.

> >

> > Aspects are considered from 1st house for general effects.

> >

> > Hope that clarifies your understanding.

> >

> > warmest regards

> > Sheevani

> >

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> > astrology , puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sirs

> > >

> > > Kindly clarify if the lagna chnages in BHAVA CHART then predictionsÂ

> > would be from lagna chart or bhava chart for Dasa.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Puneet Ahuja

> > >

> > > --- On Sun, 29/11/09, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927@> wrote:

> > >

> > > gopalakrishna <gopi_b927@>

> > > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> > > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> > astrology

> > > Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 9:11 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Â

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Manoj ji,

> > > you are right.Thank you for the info.I feel any system introduced by

> > anybody/any clasic should never be brushed aside simply because it is given

> > to the future generations only after finding it working for themselves.So

> > when yousaid proof of the pudding is in its eating you are right.I will sure

> > check it out......and even if it doesnt work for me i dont blame the system

> > since i have no right....

> > > Love and regards,

> > > gopi.

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran

> > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Gopi Ji,

> > > >

> > > > Bhava Chalit was introduced by Sri Pathi. No other astrologer before

> > him nor any major classic before that time period ever mentioned even a

> > single word about it. So it is clear that Sri Pathi was the founder of

> > this system.

> > > >

> > > > We already had an " animated " discussion on this subject, if you refer to

> > the archives, you can find it. It is a contreversial system and primarily

> > used by North Indian astrologers. But due to more open mindedness in modern

> > day and willingness to research, South Indian astrologers have alsoÂÂ

> > started trying it out.

> > > >

> > > > Proof of the pudding is in its eating .... so try it out and

> > see if it works for you.

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > Regards,

> > > >  -Manoj

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ .

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > Sun, November 29, 2009 9:49:10 AM

> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> > > >

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > Dear Ones,

> > > > please let me have what ever information about bhava/chalit chakra.What

> > is its root?Which classic mentioned it?Etc etc... since i found it it very

> > interesting and i stumbled upon something regarding it in my own

> > study/research or whatever.

> > > > Love and regards,

> > > > gopi.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

> > http://in.. <http://in./> com/

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.87/2535 - Release 11/30/09

> > 01:01:00

> >

>

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Dear kulbirji,I beg to differ. The word sir is properly addressed to a male member. This is proper grammar. I wouldnt say this if i am not 100 percent sure. Anyway not a huge issue to debate on. RegardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel "kulbir" <kulbirbainsMon, 30 Nov 2009 14:28:45 -0000 Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Maadam Sheevani ji;It is a matter of protocol; a lady in superior position is always addressed as Sir, Chairperson instead of Chairlady, Your lordship if in judicial chair. there is no bid deal like gender bias if someone uses Sir to addresses members who he thinks are more mature in knowledge or experience.Regards.Kulbir , " Sheevani " <sheevani147 wrote:>> Dear Santosh ji,> > Namaste.> > Thank you for your imput.> > I just happen to notice that nobody has responded to Puneetji's request for clarification, and as it was a simple matter, I thought I would respond.> > When I re-read the mail, a thought did cross my mind,, " Am I excluded due to my gender? " I just put that to lack of thought and responded anyway.> > Hence the " Non-Sir " comment.> > warmest regards> Sheevani> > > > , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:> >> > Dear Non-Sir,> > > > > > > > Valid doubt on addressing the forum. The best way is to address a person> > directly and respectfully or alternatively if you wish to address everybody,> > dear members, dear list, dear forum members, dear friends are appropriate.> > > > > > > > Your clarification on bhava chalit is crystal clear. But there are deferring> > views. Some astrologers do not consider it at all. I am in favor of your> > view.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Santhosh> > > > > > > > > > > >_____ > > > > > > On Behalf Of Sheevani> > Monday, November 30, 2009 5:20 PM> > > > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji,> > > > Namaste.> > > > Can a " Non-Sir " answer your question?> > > > Lagna and rashis " do Not " change in bhava chalit, only the planets move to> > diffent houses depending on their degrees..> > > > eg if lagna is 28 deg aries, then planets placed in 0-13 deg aries will be> > in 12H, pisces in Bhava chalit chart, > > > > Say jupiter is placed in 10 deg aries, it will give effects of being placed> > in aries sign, but the bhava effects will be that of the 12th house.> > > > Aspects are considered from 1st house for general effects.> > > > Hope that clarifies your understanding.> > > > warmest regards> > Sheevani> > > > ancient_indian_ <%40>> > astrology , puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sirs> > > > > > Kindly clarify if the lagna chnages in BHAVA CHART then predictionsÂ> > would be from lagna chart or bhava chart for Dasa.> > > > > > Regards> > > Puneet Ahuja> > > > > > --- On Sun, 29/11/09, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927@> wrote:> > > > > > gopalakrishna <gopi_b927@>> > > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> > > ancient_indian_ <%40>> > astrology > > > Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 9:11 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji,> > > you are right.Thank you for the info.I feel any system introduced by> > anybody/any clasic should never be brushed aside simply because it is given> > to the future generations only after finding it working for themselves.So> > when yousaid proof of the pudding is in its eating you are right.I will sure> > check it out......and even if it doesnt work for me i dont blame the system> > since i have no right....> > > Love and regards,> > > gopi.> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran> > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Gopi Ji,> > > > > > > > Bhava Chalit was introduced by Sri Pathi. No other astrologer before> > him nor any major classic before that time period ever mentioned even a> > single word about it. So it is clear that Sri Pathi was the founder of> > this system.> > > > > > > > We already had an " animated " discussion on this subject, if you refer to> > the archives, you can find it. It is a contreversial system and primarily> > used by North Indian astrologers. But due to more open mindedness in modern> > day and willingness to research, South Indian astrologers have alsoÂÂ> > started trying it out.> > > > > > > > Proof of the pudding is in its eating .... so try it out and> > see if it works for you.> > > >  > > > > Regards,> > > >  -Manoj> > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________> > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ .> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Sun, November 29, 2009 9:49:10 AM> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> > > > > > > >  > > > > Dear Ones,> > > > please let me have what ever information about bhava/chalit chakra.What> > is its root?Which classic mentioned it?Etc etc... since i found it it very> > interesting and i stumbled upon something regarding it in my own> > study/research or whatever.> > > > Love and regards,> > > > gopi.> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.> > http://in.. <http://in./> com/> > >> > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.87/2535 - Release 11/30/09> > 01:01:00> >>

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Santhosh ji; i admit you are right, in the lighter vein, lawyers address judges

as My Lord, if the judge is a lady, addressing her as My Lady looks odd. i was

talking of such prevalent norms.

 

Regards

Kulbir

 

, santhosh wrote:

>

> Dear kulbirji,

> I beg to differ. The word sir is properly addressed to a male member. This is

proper grammar. I wouldnt say this if i am not 100 percent sure.

> Anyway not a huge issue to debate on.

> Regards

> Santhosh

>

> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

>

>

> " kulbir " <kulbirbains

> Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:28:45

>

> Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

>

> Maadam Sheevani ji;

>

> It is a matter of protocol; a lady in superior position is always addressed as

Sir, Chairperson instead of Chairlady, Your lordship if in judicial chair. there

is no bid deal like gender bias if someone uses Sir to addresses members who he

thinks are more mature in knowledge or experience.

>

> Regards.

> Kulbir

>

>

> , " Sheevani " <sheevani147@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Santosh ji,

> >

> > Namaste.

> >

> > Thank you for your imput.

> >

> > I just happen to notice that nobody has responded to Puneetji's request for

clarification, and as it was a simple matter, I thought I would respond.

> >

> > When I re-read the mail, a thought did cross my mind,, " Am I excluded due

to my gender? " I just put that to lack of thought and responded anyway.

> >

> > Hence the " Non-Sir " comment.

> >

> > warmest regards

> > Sheevani

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Santhosh " <santhosh@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Non-Sir,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Valid doubt on addressing the forum. The best way is to address a person

> > > directly and respectfully or alternatively if you wish to address

everybody,

> > > dear members, dear list, dear forum members, dear friends are appropriate.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Your clarification on bhava chalit is crystal clear. But there are

deferring

> > > views. Some astrologers do not consider it at all. I am in favor of your

> > > view.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Santhosh

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >_____

> > >

> > >

> > > On Behalf Of Sheevani

> > > Monday, November 30, 2009 5:20 PM

> > >

> > > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Puneet ji,

> > >

> > > Namaste.

> > >

> > > Can a " Non-Sir " answer your question?

> > >

> > > Lagna and rashis " do Not " change in bhava chalit, only the planets move to

> > > diffent houses depending on their degrees..

> > >

> > > eg if lagna is 28 deg aries, then planets placed in 0-13 deg aries will be

> > > in 12H, pisces in Bhava chalit chart,

> > >

> > > Say jupiter is placed in 10 deg aries, it will give effects of being

placed

> > > in aries sign, but the bhava effects will be that of the 12th house.

> > >

> > > Aspects are considered from 1st house for general effects.

> > >

> > > Hope that clarifies your understanding.

> > >

> > > warmest regards

> > > Sheevani

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> > > astrology , puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sirs

> > > >

> > > > Kindly clarify if the lagna chnages in BHAVA CHART then predictionsÂ

> > > would be from lagna chart or bhava chart for Dasa.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Puneet Ahuja

> > > >

> > > > --- On Sun, 29/11/09, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > gopalakrishna <gopi_b927@>

> > > > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> > > > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> > > astrology

> > > > Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 9:11 PM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Â

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Manoj ji,

> > > > you are right.Thank you for the info.I feel any system introduced by

> > > anybody/any clasic should never be brushed aside simply because it is

given

> > > to the future generations only after finding it working for themselves.So

> > > when yousaid proof of the pudding is in its eating you are right.I will

sure

> > > check it out......and even if it doesnt work for me i dont blame the

system

> > > since i have no right....

> > > > Love and regards,

> > > > gopi.

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran

> > > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Gopi Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhava Chalit was introduced by Sri Pathi. No other astrologer before

> > > him nor any major classic before that time period ever mentioned even a

> > > single word about it. So it is clear that Sri Pathi was the founder of

> > > this system.

> > > > >

> > > > > We already had an " animated " discussion on this subject, if you refer

to

> > > the archives, you can find it. It is a contreversial system and

primarily

> > > used by North Indian astrologers. But due to more open mindedness in

modern

> > > day and willingness to research, South Indian astrologers have alsoÂÂ

> > > started trying it out.

> > > > >

> > > > > Proof of the pudding is in its eating .... so try it out and

> > > see if it works for you.

> > > > > ÂÂ

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >  -Manoj

> > > > > ÂÂ

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >________________________________

> > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ .

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > Sun, November 29, 2009 9:49:10 AM

> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> > > > >

> > > > > ÂÂ

> > > > > Dear Ones,

> > > > > please let me have what ever information about bhava/chalit

chakra.What

> > > is its root?Which classic mentioned it?Etc etc... since i found it it very

> > > interesting and i stumbled upon something regarding it in my own

> > > study/research or whatever.

> > > > > Love and regards,

> > > > > gopi.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

> > > http://in.. <http://in./> com/

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.87/2535 - Release 11/30/09

> > > 01:01:00

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sheevani ji,

 

1) I had understood when you posted the first mail as to why you were

talking about " Non Sir " .

 

2) since the query was addressed to a respected member of the forum, I

did not respond , but it was registered as soon as it came aboard.

 

Love n regards,

 

bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, " Sheevani "

<sheevani147 wrote:

>

> Dear Santosh ji,

>

> Namaste.

>

> Thank you for your imput.

>

> I just happen to notice that nobody has responded to Puneetji's

request for clarification, and as it was a simple matter, I thought I

would respond.

>

> When I re-read the mail, a thought did cross my mind,, " Am I excluded

due to my gender? " I just put that to lack of thought and responded

anyway.

>

> Hence the " Non-Sir " comment.

>

> warmest regards

> Sheevani

>

>

>

> , " Santhosh " santhosh@

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Non-Sir,

> >

> >

> >

> > Valid doubt on addressing the forum. The best way is to address a

person

> > directly and respectfully or alternatively if you wish to address

everybody,

> > dear members, dear list, dear forum members, dear friends are

appropriate.

> >

> >

> >

> > Your clarification on bhava chalit is crystal clear. But there are

deferring

> > views. Some astrologers do not consider it at all. I am in favor of

your

> > view.

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Santhosh

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> >

> > On Behalf Of

Sheevani

> > Monday, November 30, 2009 5:20 PM

> >

> > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Puneet ji,

> >

> > Namaste.

> >

> > Can a " Non-Sir " answer your question?

> >

> > Lagna and rashis " do Not " change in bhava chalit, only the planets

move to

> > diffent houses depending on their degrees..

> >

> > eg if lagna is 28 deg aries, then planets placed in 0-13 deg aries

will be

> > in 12H, pisces in Bhava chalit chart,

> >

> > Say jupiter is placed in 10 deg aries, it will give effects of being

placed

> > in aries sign, but the bhava effects will be that of the 12th house.

> >

> > Aspects are considered from 1st house for general effects.

> >

> > Hope that clarifies your understanding.

> >

> > warmest regards

> > Sheevani

> >

> > ancient_indian_

<%40>

> > astrology , puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sirs

> > >

> > > Kindly clarify if the lagna chnages in BHAVA CHART then

predictionsÂ

> > would be from lagna chart or bhava chart for Dasa.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Puneet Ahuja

> > >

> > > --- On Sun, 29/11/09, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927@> wrote:

> > >

> > > gopalakrishna <gopi_b927@>

> > > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> > > ancient_indian_

<%40>

> > astrology

> > > Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 9:11 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Â

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Manoj ji,

> > > you are right.Thank you for the info.I feel any system introduced

by

> > anybody/any clasic should never be brushed aside simply because it

is given

> > to the future generations only after finding it working for

themselves.So

> > when yousaid proof of the pudding is in its eating you are right.I

will sure

> > check it out......and even if it doesnt work for me i dont blame the

system

> > since i have no right....

> > > Love and regards,

> > > gopi.

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran

> > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Gopi Ji,

> > > >

> > > > Bhava Chalit was introduced by Sri Pathi. No other astrologer

before

> > him nor any major classic before that time period ever

mentioned even a

> > single word about it. So it is clear that Sri Pathi was the

founder of

> > this system.

> > > >

> > > > We already had an " animated " discussion on this subject, if you

refer to

> > the archives, you can find it. It is a contreversial system

and primarily

> > used by North Indian astrologers. But due to more open mindedness in

modern

> > day and willingness to research, South Indian astrologers

have alsoÂÂ

> > started trying it out.

> > > >

> > > > Proof of the pudding is in its eating .... so try

it out and

> > see if it works for you.

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > Regards,

> > > >  -Manoj

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ .

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > Sun, November 29, 2009 9:49:10 AM

> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> > > >

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > Dear Ones,

> > > > please let me have what ever information about bhava/chalit

chakra.What

> > is its root?Which classic mentioned it?Etc etc... since i found it

it very

> > interesting and i stumbled upon something regarding it in my own

> > study/research or whatever.

> > > > Love and regards,

> > > > gopi.

> > > >

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>

[Guest guest]

Agreed kulbirji, Thats true for my lord. But for 'sir' the same rule is not applicable. Thats the problem with this silly language. History has ensured that we live with this language which is idiocentric in many ways.RegardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel "kulbir" <kulbirbains

Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:43:46 -0000 Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

Santhosh ji; i admit you are right, in the lighter vein, lawyers address judges as My Lord, if the judge is a lady, addressing her as My Lady looks odd. i was talking of such prevalent norms.

 

Regards

Kulbir

 

, santhosh wrote:

>

> Dear kulbirji,

> I beg to differ. The word sir is properly addressed to a male member. This is proper grammar. I wouldnt say this if i am not 100 percent sure.

> Anyway not a huge issue to debate on.

> Regards

> Santhosh

>

> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

>

>

> " kulbir " <kulbirbains

> Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:28:45

>

> Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

>

> Maadam Sheevani ji;

>

> It is a matter of protocol; a lady in superior position is always addressed as Sir, Chairperson instead of Chairlady, Your lordship if in judicial chair. there is no bid deal like gender bias if someone uses Sir to addresses members who he thinks are more mature in knowledge or experience.

>

> Regards.

> Kulbir

>

>

> , " Sheevani " <sheevani147@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Santosh ji,

> >

> > Namaste.

> >

> > Thank you for your imput.

> >

> > I just happen to notice that nobody has responded to Puneetji's request for clarification, and as it was a simple matter, I thought I would respond.

> >

> > When I re-read the mail, a thought did cross my mind,, " Am I excluded due to my gender? " I just put that to lack of thought and responded anyway.

> >

> > Hence the " Non-Sir " comment.

> >

> > warmest regards

> > Sheevani

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Non-Sir,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Valid doubt on addressing the forum. The best way is to address a person

> > > directly and respectfully or alternatively if you wish to address everybody,

> > > dear members, dear list, dear forum members, dear friends are appropriate.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Your clarification on bhava chalit is crystal clear. But there are deferring

> > > views. Some astrologers do not consider it at all. I am in favor of your

> > > view.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Santhosh

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >_____

> > >

> > >

> > > On Behalf Of Sheevani

> > > Monday, November 30, 2009 5:20 PM

> > >

> > > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Puneet ji,

> > >

> > > Namaste.

> > >

> > > Can a " Non-Sir " answer your question?

> > >

> > > Lagna and rashis " do Not " change in bhava chalit, only the planets move to

> > > diffent houses depending on their degrees..

> > >

> > > eg if lagna is 28 deg aries, then planets placed in 0-13 deg aries will be

> > > in 12H, pisces in Bhava chalit chart,

> > >

> > > Say jupiter is placed in 10 deg aries, it will give effects of being placed

> > > in aries sign, but the bhava effects will be that of the 12th house.

> > >

> > > Aspects are considered from 1st house for general effects.

> > >

> > > Hope that clarifies your understanding.

> > >

> > > warmest regards

> > > Sheevani

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> > > astrology , puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sirs

> > > >

> > > > Kindly clarify if the lagna chnages in BHAVA CHART then predictionsÂ

> > > would be from lagna chart or bhava chart for Dasa.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Puneet Ahuja

> > > >

> > > > --- On Sun, 29/11/09, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > gopalakrishna <gopi_b927@>

> > > > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> > > > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> > > astrology

> > > > Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 9:11 PM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Â

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Manoj ji,

> > > > you are right.Thank you for the info.I feel any system introduced by

> > > anybody/any clasic should never be brushed aside simply because it is given

> > > to the future generations only after finding it working for themselves.So

> > > when yousaid proof of the pudding is in its eating you are right.I will sure

> > > check it out......and even if it doesnt work for me i dont blame the system

> > > since i have no right....

> > > > Love and regards,

> > > > gopi.

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran

> > > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Gopi Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhava Chalit was introduced by Sri Pathi. No other astrologer before

> > > him nor any major classic before that time period ever mentioned even a

> > > single word about it. So it is clear that Sri Pathi was the founder of

> > > this system.

> > > > >

> > > > > We already had an " animated " discussion on this subject, if you refer to

> > > the archives, you can find it. It is a contreversial system and primarily

> > > used by North Indian astrologers. But due to more open mindedness in modern

> > > day and willingness to research, South Indian astrologers have alsoÂÂ

> > > started trying it out.

> > > > >

> > > > > Proof of the pudding is in its eating .... so try it out and

> > > see if it works for you.

> > > > > ÂÂ

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >  -Manoj

> > > > > ÂÂ

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >________________________________

> > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ .

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > Sun, November 29, 2009 9:49:10 AM

> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> > > > >

> > > > > ÂÂ

> > > > > Dear Ones,

> > > > > please let me have what ever information about bhava/chalit chakra.What

> > > is its root?Which classic mentioned it?Etc etc... since i found it it very

> > > interesting and i stumbled upon something regarding it in my own

> > > study/research or whatever.

> > > > > Love and regards,

> > > > > gopi.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

> > > http://in.. <http://in./> com/

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.87/2535 - Release 11/30/09

> > > 01:01:00

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

" Sir " " Boss " " Sirji " is a term used both for genuine persons befitting

these terms as well as rascals. Those who dont pay us payments after

goods sold, in time, when we go and sit in their offices to collect our

payments we call them also " Sir " .

 

If my son crashes his car and gets caught by an ordinary policemans, i

will address him as " Sir " . As soon as he accepts my payment as bribe I

will become friendly with him and address him as " Bhai " , and as soon as

he tells me " Sahab wapas milna " , I will address him as " Tu " .

 

These forms of addresses all change with the same person itself

depending on the circumstances.

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

, santhosh wrote:

>

> Agreed kulbirji,

> Thats true for my lord. But for 'sir' the same rule is not applicable.

Thats the problem with this silly language. History has ensured that we

live with this language which is idiocentric in many ways.

> Regards

> Santhosh

>

> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

>

>

> " kulbir " kulbirbains

> Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:43:46

>

> Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

>

> Santhosh ji; i admit you are right, in the lighter vein, lawyers

address judges as My Lord, if the judge is a lady, addressing her as My

Lady looks odd. i was talking of such prevalent norms.

>

> Regards

> Kulbir

>

> , santhosh@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear kulbirji,

> > I beg to differ. The word sir is properly addressed to a male

member. This is proper grammar. I wouldnt say this if i am not 100

percent sure.

> > Anyway not a huge issue to debate on.

> > Regards

> > Santhosh

> >

> > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

> >

> >

> > " kulbir " kulbirbains@

> > Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:28:45

> >

> > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> >

> > Maadam Sheevani ji;

> >

> > It is a matter of protocol; a lady in superior position is always

addressed as Sir, Chairperson instead of Chairlady, Your lordship if in

judicial chair. there is no bid deal like gender bias if someone uses

Sir to addresses members who he thinks are more mature in knowledge or

experience.

> >

> > Regards.

> > Kulbir

> >

> >

> > , " Sheevani "

<sheevani147@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Santosh ji,

> > >

> > > Namaste.

> > >

> > > Thank you for your imput.

> > >

> > > I just happen to notice that nobody has responded to Puneetji's

request for clarification, and as it was a simple matter, I thought I

would respond.

> > >

> > > When I re-read the mail, a thought did cross my mind,, " Am I

excluded due to my gender? " I just put that to lack of thought and

responded anyway.

> > >

> > > Hence the " Non-Sir " comment.

> > >

> > > warmest regards

> > > Sheevani

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Santhosh "

<santhosh@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Non-Sir,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Valid doubt on addressing the forum. The best way is to address

a person

> > > > directly and respectfully or alternatively if you wish to

address everybody,

> > > > dear members, dear list, dear forum members, dear friends are

appropriate.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Your clarification on bhava chalit is crystal clear. But there

are deferring

> > > > views. Some astrologers do not consider it at all. I am in favor

of your

> > > > view.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Santhosh

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >_____

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On Behalf Of

Sheevani

> > > > Monday, November 30, 2009 5:20 PM

> > > >

> > > > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Puneet ji,

> > > >

> > > > Namaste.

> > > >

> > > > Can a " Non-Sir " answer your question?

> > > >

> > > > Lagna and rashis " do Not " change in bhava chalit, only the

planets move to

> > > > diffent houses depending on their degrees..

> > > >

> > > > eg if lagna is 28 deg aries, then planets placed in 0-13 deg

aries will be

> > > > in 12H, pisces in Bhava chalit chart,

> > > >

> > > > Say jupiter is placed in 10 deg aries, it will give effects of

being placed

> > > > in aries sign, but the bhava effects will be that of the 12th

house.

> > > >

> > > > Aspects are considered from 1st house for general effects.

> > > >

> > > > Hope that clarifies your understanding.

> > > >

> > > > warmest regards

> > > > Sheevani

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_

<%40>

> > > > astrology , puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sirs

> > > > >

> > > > > Kindly clarify if the lagna chnages in BHAVA CHART then

predictionsÂ

> > > > would be from lagna chart or bhava chart for Dasa.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Puneet Ahuja

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Sun, 29/11/09, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > gopalakrishna <gopi_b927@>

> > > > > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> > > > > ancient_indian_

<%40>

> > > > astrology

> > > > > Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 9:11 PM

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Â

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Manoj ji,

> > > > > you are right.Thank you for the info.I feel any system

introduced by

> > > > anybody/any clasic should never be brushed aside simply because

it is given

> > > > to the future generations only after finding it working for

themselves.So

> > > > when yousaid proof of the pudding is in its eating you are

right.I will sure

> > > > check it out......and even if it doesnt work for me i dont blame

the system

> > > > since i have no right....

> > > > > Love and regards,

> > > > > gopi.

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj

Chandran

> > > > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Gopi Ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bhava Chalit was introduced by Sri Pathi. No other

astrologer before

> > > > him nor any major classic before that time period ever

mentioned even a

> > > > single word about it. So it is clear that Sri Pathi was

the founder of

> > > > this system.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We already had an " animated " discussion on this subject, if

you refer to

> > > > the archives, you can find it. It is a contreversial

system and primarily

> > > > used by North Indian astrologers. But due to more open

mindedness in modern

> > > > day and willingness to research, South Indian astrologers

have alsoÂÂ

> > > > started trying it out.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Proof of the pudding is in its eating .... so

try it out and

> > > > see if it works for you.

> > > > > > ÂÂ

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >  -Manoj

> > > > > > ÂÂ

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >________________________________

> > > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ .

> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > > Sun, November 29, 2009 9:49:10 AM

> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ÂÂ

> > > > > > Dear Ones,

> > > > > > please let me have what ever information about bhava/chalit

chakra.What

> > > > is its root?Which classic mentioned it?Etc etc... since i found

it it very

> > > > interesting and i stumbled upon something regarding it in my own

> > > > study/research or whatever.

> > > > > > Love and regards,

> > > > > > gopi.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your

Homepage.

> > > > http://in.. <http://in./> com/

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.87/2535 - Release

11/30/09

> > > > 01:01:00

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

If the Judge is my good friend, and a beautiful Lady, inside the court I

will adress her as " My lord' and inside my cabin i will address her as

" Raani, or " Darling " .

 

So this is the way of Life my dear, when shes near, I call her my dear.

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, " kulbir "

<kulbirbains wrote:

>

> Santhosh ji; i admit you are right, in the lighter vein, lawyers

address judges as My Lord, if the judge is a lady, addressing her as My

Lady looks odd. i was talking of such prevalent norms.

>

> Regards

> Kulbir

>

> , santhosh@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear kulbirji,

> > I beg to differ. The word sir is properly addressed to a male

member. This is proper grammar. I wouldnt say this if i am not 100

percent sure.

> > Anyway not a huge issue to debate on.

> > Regards

> > Santhosh

> >

> > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

> >

> >

> > " kulbir " kulbirbains@

> > Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:28:45

> >

> > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> >

> > Maadam Sheevani ji;

> >

> > It is a matter of protocol; a lady in superior position is always

addressed as Sir, Chairperson instead of Chairlady, Your lordship if in

judicial chair. there is no bid deal like gender bias if someone uses

Sir to addresses members who he thinks are more mature in knowledge or

experience.

> >

> > Regards.

> > Kulbir

> >

> >

> > , " Sheevani "

<sheevani147@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Santosh ji,

> > >

> > > Namaste.

> > >

> > > Thank you for your imput.

> > >

> > > I just happen to notice that nobody has responded to Puneetji's

request for clarification, and as it was a simple matter, I thought I

would respond.

> > >

> > > When I re-read the mail, a thought did cross my mind,, " Am I

excluded due to my gender? " I just put that to lack of thought and

responded anyway.

> > >

> > > Hence the " Non-Sir " comment.

> > >

> > > warmest regards

> > > Sheevani

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Santhosh "

<santhosh@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Non-Sir,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Valid doubt on addressing the forum. The best way is to address

a person

> > > > directly and respectfully or alternatively if you wish to

address everybody,

> > > > dear members, dear list, dear forum members, dear friends are

appropriate.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Your clarification on bhava chalit is crystal clear. But there

are deferring

> > > > views. Some astrologers do not consider it at all. I am in favor

of your

> > > > view.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Santhosh

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >_____

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On Behalf Of

Sheevani

> > > > Monday, November 30, 2009 5:20 PM

> > > >

> > > > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Puneet ji,

> > > >

> > > > Namaste.

> > > >

> > > > Can a " Non-Sir " answer your question?

> > > >

> > > > Lagna and rashis " do Not " change in bhava chalit, only the

planets move to

> > > > diffent houses depending on their degrees..

> > > >

> > > > eg if lagna is 28 deg aries, then planets placed in 0-13 deg

aries will be

> > > > in 12H, pisces in Bhava chalit chart,

> > > >

> > > > Say jupiter is placed in 10 deg aries, it will give effects of

being placed

> > > > in aries sign, but the bhava effects will be that of the 12th

house.

> > > >

> > > > Aspects are considered from 1st house for general effects.

> > > >

> > > > Hope that clarifies your understanding.

> > > >

> > > > warmest regards

> > > > Sheevani

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_

<%40>

> > > > astrology , puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sirs

> > > > >

> > > > > Kindly clarify if the lagna chnages in BHAVA CHART then

predictionsÂ

> > > > would be from lagna chart or bhava chart for Dasa.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Puneet Ahuja

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Sun, 29/11/09, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > gopalakrishna <gopi_b927@>

> > > > > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> > > > > ancient_indian_

<%40>

> > > > astrology

> > > > > Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 9:11 PM

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Â

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Manoj ji,

> > > > > you are right.Thank you for the info.I feel any system

introduced by

> > > > anybody/any clasic should never be brushed aside simply because

it is given

> > > > to the future generations only after finding it working for

themselves.So

> > > > when yousaid proof of the pudding is in its eating you are

right.I will sure

> > > > check it out......and even if it doesnt work for me i dont blame

the system

> > > > since i have no right....

> > > > > Love and regards,

> > > > > gopi.

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj

Chandran

> > > > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Gopi Ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bhava Chalit was introduced by Sri Pathi. No other

astrologer before

> > > > him nor any major classic before that time period ever

mentioned even a

> > > > single word about it. So it is clear that Sri Pathi was

the founder of

> > > > this system.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We already had an " animated " discussion on this subject, if

you refer to

> > > > the archives, you can find it. It is a contreversial

system and primarily

> > > > used by North Indian astrologers. But due to more open

mindedness in modern

> > > > day and willingness to research, South Indian astrologers

have alsoÂÂ

> > > > started trying it out.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Proof of the pudding is in its eating .... so

try it out and

> > > > see if it works for you.

> > > > > > ÂÂ

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >  -Manoj

> > > > > > ÂÂ

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >________________________________

> > > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ .

> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > > Sun, November 29, 2009 9:49:10 AM

> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ÂÂ

> > > > > > Dear Ones,

> > > > > > please let me have what ever information about bhava/chalit

chakra.What

> > > > is its root?Which classic mentioned it?Etc etc... since i found

it it very

> > > > interesting and i stumbled upon something regarding it in my own

> > > > study/research or whatever.

> > > > > > Love and regards,

> > > > > > gopi.

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DEAR SHIVANIThanks for your mail,say if LAGNA is Libra 29degrees 14 minutes and Venus is in 7 house but in Bhava chart it shifts to 6 house then the MAHADASA of Venus will give evil effects of 6 houseKindly clarify aboveRegardsPuneet Ahuja--- On Mon, 30/11/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Date: Monday, 30 November, 2009, 4:39 AM

 

 

 

Dear Santosh ji,

 

If you are inclined, then you may also go through the example wherein I

replied today to a member explaining why he got a marriage and a child -

explained through the Bhava Chalita Chart, which otherwise is not

understood through the commonly understood ways, but crystal clear

through the Bhava Chalit system.

 

regards,

 

Bhaskar.

 

ancient_indian_ astrology, "Santhosh"

<santhosh@.. .> wrote:

>

> Dear Non-Sir,

>

>

>

> Valid doubt on addressing the forum. The best way is to address a

person

> directly and respectfully or alternatively if you wish to address

everybody,

> dear members, dear list, dear forum members, dear friends are

appropriate.

>

>

>

> Your clarification on bhava chalit is crystal clear. But there are

deferring

> views. Some astrologers do not consider it at all. I am in favor of

your

> view.

>

>

>

> Regards

>

> Santhosh

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of

Sheevani

> Monday, November 30, 2009 5:20 PM

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Puneet ji,

>

> Namaste.

>

> Can a "Non-Sir" answer your question?

>

> Lagna and rashis "do Not" change in bhava chalit, only the planets

move to

> diffent houses depending on their degrees..

>

> eg if lagna is 28 deg aries, then planets placed in 0-13 deg aries

will be

> in 12H, pisces in Bhava chalit chart,

>

> Say jupiter is placed in 10 deg aries, it will give effects of being

placed

> in aries sign, but the bhava effects will be that of the 12th house.

>

> Aspects are considered from 1st house for general effects.

>

> Hope that clarifies your understanding.

>

> warmest regards

> Sheevani

>

> ancient_indian_

<ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> astrology@grou ps.com, puneet ahuja punsoft2003@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sirs

> >

> > Kindly clarify if the lagna chnages in BHAVA CHART then

predictionsÂ

> would be from lagna chart or bhava chart for Dasa.

> >

> > Regards

> > Puneet Ahuja

> >

> > --- On Sun, 29/11/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ wrote:

> >

> > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> > ancient_indian_

<ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> astrology@grou ps.com

> > Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 9:11 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Manoj ji,

> > you are right.Thank you for the info.I feel any system introduced by

> anybody/any clasic should never be brushed aside simply because it is

given

> to the future generations only after finding it working for

themselves.So

> when yousaid proof of the pudding is in its eating you are right.I

will sure

> check it out......and even if it doesnt work for me i dont blame the

system

> since i have no right....

> > Love and regards,

> > gopi.

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran

> <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Gopi Ji,

> > >

> > > Bhava Chalit was introduced by Sri Pathi. No other astrologer

before

> him nor any major classic before that time period ever

mentioned even a

> single word about it. So it is clear that Sri Pathi was the

founder of

> this system.

> > >

> > > We already had an "animated" discussion on this subject, if you

refer to

> the archives, you can find it. It is a contreversial system and

primarily

> used by North Indian astrologers. But due to more open mindedness in

modern

> day and willingness to research, South Indian astrologers have

alsoÂÂ

> started trying it out.

> > >

> > > Proof of the pudding is in its eating .... so try it

out and

> see if it works for you.

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Regards,

> > >  -Manoj

> > > ÂÂ

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ .

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > Sun, November 29, 2009 9:49:10 AM

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> > >

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Dear Ones,

> > > please let me have what ever information about bhava/chalit

chakra.What

> is its root?Which classic mentioned it?Etc etc... since i found it it

very

> interesting and i stumbled upon something regarding it in my own

> study/research or whatever.

> > > Love and regards,

> > > gopi.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Puneet jiCan you please give us your chart detailsThanks Girish--- On Mon, 11/30/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003 wrote:puneet ahuja <punsoft2003Re: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 9:34 AM

 

 

DEAR SHIVANIThanks for your mail,say if LAGNA is Libra 29degrees 14 minutes and Venus is in 7 house but in Bhava chart it shifts to 6 house then the MAHADASA of Venus will give evil effects of 6 houseKindly clarify aboveRegardsPuneet Ahuja--- On Mon, 30/11/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRAancient_indian_ astrologyMonday, 30 November, 2009, 4:39 AM

 

 

 

Dear Santosh ji,

 

If you are inclined, then you may also go through the example wherein I

replied today to a member explaining why he got a marriage and a child -

explained through the Bhava Chalita Chart, which otherwise is not

understood through the commonly understood ways, but crystal clear

through the Bhava Chalit system.

 

regards,

 

Bhaskar.

 

ancient_indian_ astrology, "Santhosh"

<santhosh@.. .> wrote:

>

> Dear Non-Sir,

>

>

>

> Valid doubt on addressing the forum. The best way is to address a

person

> directly and respectfully or alternatively if you wish to address

everybody,

> dear members, dear list, dear forum members, dear friends are

appropriate.

>

>

>

> Your clarification on bhava chalit is crystal clear. But there are

deferring

> views. Some astrologers do not consider it at all. I am in favor of

your

> view.

>

>

>

> Regards

>

> Santhosh

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of

Sheevani

> Monday, November 30, 2009 5:20 PM

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Puneet ji,

>

> Namaste.

>

> Can a "Non-Sir" answer your question?

>

> Lagna and rashis "do Not" change in bhava chalit, only the planets

move to

> diffent houses depending on their degrees..

>

> eg if lagna is 28 deg aries, then planets placed in 0-13 deg aries

will be

> in 12H, pisces in Bhava chalit chart,

>

> Say jupiter is placed in 10 deg aries, it will give effects of being

placed

> in aries sign, but the bhava effects will be that of the 12th house.

>

> Aspects are considered from 1st house for general effects.

>

> Hope that clarifies your understanding.

>

> warmest regards

> Sheevani

>

> ancient_indian_

<ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> astrology@grou ps.com, puneet ahuja punsoft2003@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sirs

> >

> > Kindly clarify if the lagna chnages in BHAVA CHART then

predictionsÂ

> would be from lagna chart or bhava chart for Dasa.

> >

> > Regards

> > Puneet Ahuja

> >

> > --- On Sun, 29/11/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ wrote:

> >

> > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> > ancient_indian_

<ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> astrology@grou ps.com

> > Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 9:11 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Manoj ji,

> > you are right.Thank you for the info.I feel any system introduced by

> anybody/any clasic should never be brushed aside simply because it is

given

> to the future generations only after finding it working for

themselves.So

> when yousaid proof of the pudding is in its eating you are right.I

will sure

> check it out......and even if it doesnt work for me i dont blame the

system

> since i have no right....

> > Love and regards,

> > gopi.

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran

> <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Gopi Ji,

> > >

> > > Bhava Chalit was introduced by Sri Pathi. No other astrologer

before

> him nor any major classic before that time period ever

mentioned even a

> single word about it. So it is clear that Sri Pathi was the

founder of

> this system.

> > >

> > > We already had an "animated" discussion on this subject, if you

refer to

> the archives, you can find it. It is a contreversial system and

primarily

> used by North Indian astrologers. But due to more open mindedness in

modern

> day and willingness to research, South Indian astrologers have

alsoÂÂ

> started trying it out.

> > >

> > > Proof of the pudding is in its eating .... so try it

out and

> see if it works for you.

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Regards,

> > >  -Manoj

> > > ÂÂ

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ .

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > Sun, November 29, 2009 9:49:10 AM

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

> > >

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Dear Ones,

> > > please let me have what ever information about bhava/chalit

chakra.What

> is its root?Which classic mentioned it?Etc etc... since i found it it

very

> interesting and i stumbled upon something regarding it in my own

> study/research or whatever.

> > > Love and regards,

> > > gopi.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Bhaskar ji, //> If my son crashes his car and gets caught by an ordinary policemans, i> will address him as "Sir". As soon as he accepts my payment as bribe I> will become friendly with him and address him as "Bhai", and as soon as> he tells me "Sahab wapas milna", I will address him as "Tu".> These forms of addresses all change with the same person itself> depending on the circumstances.// Wah! Beautiful example! Ha..Ha... Love and regards,Sreenadh , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > "SirBossSirji" is a term used both for genuine persons befitting> these terms as well as rascals. Those who dont pay us payments after> goods sold, in time, when we go and sit in their offices to collect our> payments we call them also "Sir".> > If my son crashes his car and gets caught by an ordinary policemans, i> will address him as "Sir". As soon as he accepts my payment as bribe I> will become friendly with him and address him as "Bhai", and as soon as> he tells me "Sahab wapas milna", I will address him as "Tu".> > These forms of addresses all change with the same person itself> depending on the circumstances.> > Bhaskar.

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Dear Bhaskar ji,Ha..Ha... //> So this is the way of Life my dear, when shes near, I call her my dear.// Oh! Who is this "my dear" here in the first part of the above sentence I wonder! Love and regards,Sreenadh , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > If the Judge is my good friend, and a beautiful Lady, inside the court I> will adress her as "My lord' and inside my cabin i will address her as> "Raani, or "Darling".> > So this is the way of Life my dear, when shes near, I call her my dear.> > Bhaskar.

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DEAR GIRISHThanks for your mailMy details are Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart.Kindly give your advise for above.Warm RegardsPuneet Ahuja --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon <horamag wrote:Girish menon <horamagRe: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Date: Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02

AM

 

 

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DEAR GIRISHPlace-MumbaiRegardsPuneet Ahuja--- On Mon, 30/11/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003 wrote:puneet ahuja <punsoft2003 Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Date: Monday, 30 November, 2009, 8:25 PM

 

 

DEAR GIRISHThanks for your mailMy details are Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart.Kindly give your advise for above.Warm RegardsPuneet Ahuja --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon <horamag > wrote:Girish menon <horamag >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRAancient_indian_ astrologyMonday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02

AM

 

 

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Dear Puneet,

 

Can you please clarify the negative

effect? Is it related to marriage, children or health?

 

Regards

Santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of puneet ahuja

Tuesday, December 01, 2009

11:27 AM

 

Re:

Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

DEAR GIRISH

 

 

 

 

Place-Mumbai

 

 

 

 

 

Regards

 

 

Puneet Ahuja

 

--- On Mon, 30/11/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003 (AT) grouply (DOT) com>

wrote:

 

puneet ahuja <punsoft2003 (AT) grouply (DOT) com>

Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

 

Monday, 30 November, 2009, 8:25 PM

 

 

 

 

 

DEAR GIRISH

 

 

 

 

Thanks for your mail

 

 

My details are Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time

10.10pm

 

 

My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa

and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am

getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart.

 

 

 

 

 

Kindly give your advise for above.

 

 

 

 

 

Warm Regards

 

 

Puneet Ahuja

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon <horamag >

wrote:

 

Girish menon <horamag >

Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA

ancient_indian_ astrology

Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Puneet ji

Can you please give us your chart details

Thanks

Girish

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Puneet ji,Are you really getting bad effects is the crux of the matter.If so only then Bhava chart should be considered.But my personal opinion is both 6 as well as 7H could give bad effects but those bad effects vary and you know why.....Love and regards,gopi. , puneet ahuja <punsoft2003 wrote:>> DEAR GIRISH> Thanks for your mailMy details are  Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm  My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart.> Kindly give your advise for above.> Warm RegardsPuneet Ahuja > > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon horamag wrote:> > Girish menon horamag Re: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> > Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji> Can you please give us your chart details> Thanks> Girish>

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Dear GopiI am getting bad effects as Venus is also retrograde and sincrely think it is bad effects of 6 house as if venus in 7 then it aspects lagna then I must definitely get good effects.Venus Dasa started in 1993 Iit was giving good effects till 2001 after that it has been giving bad effects ,you can say from 1993 to 2001 it gave 7 house effects and since 201 it is giving 6 house bhava effects-is this possible-------------------- RegardsPuneet Ahuja--- On Mon, 30/11/09, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 wrote:gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRATo:

Date: Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:45 PM

 

 

 

Dear Puneet ji,Are you really getting bad effects is the crux of the matter.If so only then Bhava chart should be considered.But my personal opinion is both 6 as well as 7H could give bad effects but those bad effects vary and you know why.....Love and regards,gopi.ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:>> DEAR GIRISH> Thanks for your mailMy details are  Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm  My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart.> Kindly give your advise for above.> Warm RegardsPuneet Ahuja > > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon horamag wrote:> > Girish menon horamag Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:

BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> ancient_indian_ astrology> Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji> Can you please give us your chart details> Thanks> Girish>

 

 

 

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