Guest guest Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 Dear SanthoshNegative is due to health after 2002 having BP problems,professional problems in job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in family health and career.RegardsPuneet Ahuja--- On Mon, 30/11/09, Santhosh <santhosh wrote:Santhosh <santhosh Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Date: Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:37 PM Dear Puneet, Can you please clarify the negative effect? Is it related to marriage, children or health? Regards Santhosh ancient_indian_ astrology [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of puneet ahuja Tuesday, December 01, 2009 11:27 AM ancient_indian_ astrology Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA DEAR GIRISH Place-Mumbai Regards Puneet Ahuja --- On Mon, 30/11/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> wrote: puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA ancient_indian_ astrology Monday, 30 November, 2009, 8:25 PM DEAR GIRISH Thanks for your mail My details are Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart. Kindly give your advise for above. Warm Regards Puneet Ahuja --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon <horamag > wrote: Girish menon <horamag > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA ancient_indian_ astrology Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM Dear Puneet ji Can you please give us your chart details Thanks Girish The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.87/2536 - Release 12/01/09 02:35:00 The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 Dear Santosh Interseting case study about wrong birth time. The time 10:10 is not correct Within 3 minutes 23 seconds his lagna changes to scorpio Now if we calculate the lagna from scorpio as puneet said Negative is due to health after 2002 having BP problems,profession al problems in job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in family health and career. Gives more clarity Dear Puneetji I feel the bhava cakra is not the issue here but the wrong time which I don’t blame you for that Thanks and regards Girish --- On Tue, 12/1/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003 wrote:puneet ahuja <punsoft2003 Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 4:16 AM Dear SanthoshNegative is due to health after 2002 having BP problems,profession al problems in job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in family health and career.RegardsPuneet Ahuja--- On Mon, 30/11/09, Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> wrote:Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRAancient_indian_ astrologyMonday, 30 November, 2009, 10:37 PM Dear Puneet, Can you please clarify the negative effect? Is it related to marriage, children or health? Regards Santhosh ancient_indian_ astrology [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of puneet ahuja Tuesday, December 01, 2009 11:27 AM ancient_indian_ astrology Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA DEAR GIRISH Place-Mumbai Regards Puneet Ahuja --- On Mon, 30/11/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> wrote: puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA ancient_indian_ astrology Monday, 30 November, 2009, 8:25 PM DEAR GIRISH Thanks for your mail My details are Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart. Kindly give your advise for above. Warm Regards Puneet Ahuja --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon <horamag > wrote: Girish menon <horamag > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA ancient_indian_ astrology Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM Dear Puneet ji Can you please give us your chart details Thanks Girish The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.87/2536 - Release 12/01/09 02:35:00 The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 Dear Puneet,according to my knowledge it will give the efects of both houses as well as 5thH since it is retro and you yourself are confirming it.Do not also forget as you said it will give lagna/12thH afects which you also mentioned.Anyway since it is a sandhi lagna i feel the birth time need to be checked/rectified.......Love and regards,gopi. , puneet ahuja <punsoft2003 wrote:>> Dear Gopi> I am getting bad effects as Venus is also retrograde and sincrely think it is bad effects of 6 house as  if venus in 7 then it aspects lagna then I must definitely get good effects.> Venus Dasa started in 1993 Iit was giving good effects till 2001 after that it has been giving bad effects ,you can say from 1993 to 2001 it gave 7 house effects and since 201 it is giving 6 house bhava effects-is  this possible-------------------- > RegardsPuneet Ahuja> > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927 wrote:> > gopalakrishna gopi_b927 Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> > Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:45 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji,> Are you really getting bad effects is the crux of the matter.If so only then Bhava chart should be considered.But my personal opinion is both 6 as well as 7H could give bad effects but those bad effects vary and you know why.....> Love and regards,> gopi.> ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:> >> > DEAR GIRISH> > Thanks for your mailMy details are  Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm  My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart.> > Kindly give your advise for above.> > Warm RegardsPuneet Ahuja > > > > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon horamag@ wrote:> > > > Girish menon horamag@> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji> > Can you please give us your chart details> > Thanks> > Girish> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 Thats good surmise. That explains very well. Nevertheless, 7th lord is in the house of divorce or marital problems. But being in own navamsha, imparts some strength to the 7th bhava.RegardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel Girish menon <horamagTue, 1 Dec 2009 04:59:58 -0800 (PST)Re: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Santosh Interseting case study about wrong birth time.The time 10:10 is not correctWithin 3 minutes 23 seconds his lagna changes to scorpioNow if we calculate the lagna from scorpio as puneet saidNegative is due to health after 2002 having BPproblems,profession al problems in job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,infamily health and career.Gives more clarityDear PuneetjiI feel the bhava cakra is not the issue here but the wrongtime which I don’t blame you for thatThanks and regardsGirish--- On Tue, 12/1/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003 (AT) grouply (DOT) com> wrote:puneet ahuja <punsoft2003 (AT) grouply (DOT) com> Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 4:16 AM Dear SanthoshNegative is due to health after 2002 having BP problems,profession al problems in job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in family health and career.RegardsPuneet Ahuja--- On Mon, 30/11/09, Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> wrote:Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRAancient_indian_ astrologyMonday, 30 November, 2009, 10:37 PM Dear Puneet, Can you please clarify the negativeeffect? Is it related to marriage, children or health? Regards Santhosh ancient_indian_ astrology [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of puneet ahujaTuesday, December 01, 200911:27 AMancient_indian_ astrologyRe:[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA DEAR GIRISH Place-Mumbai Regards Puneet Ahuja--- On Mon, 30/11/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com>wrote: puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRAancient_indian_ astrologyMonday, 30 November, 2009, 8:25 PM DEAR GIRISH Thanks for your mail My details are Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time10.10pm My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasaand it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I amgetting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart. Kindly give your advise for above. Warm Regards Puneet Ahuja --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon <horamag >wrote: Girish menon <horamag >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRAancient_indian_ astrologyMonday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM Dear Puneet jiCan you please give us your chart detailsThanks Girish The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! Seeyour Homepage. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.87/2536 - Release 12/01/09 02:35:00 The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 Dear Puneet Ji,Without going into Birth time rectification / fixing of Ascendant, which mayrequire further inputs and study, it can be observed that -Your BP problem is due to debilitation of Sun in D-9 and Debilitation of Mars in D-6 Chart. Mars being dispositor of current dasha (irrespective of ascendant) also matters here. Weak Sun is also responsible for Job related problems though there must be other reasons as well.Best Regards,Deepak Sharmagopalakrishna <gopi_b927 Sent: Tue, December 1, 2009 6:47:41 PM Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Puneet,according to my knowledge it will give the efects of both houses as well as 5thH since it is retro and you yourself are confirming it.Do not also forget as you said it will give lagna/12thH afects which you also mentioned.Anyway since it is a sandhi lagna i feel the birth time need to be checked/rectified. ......Love and regards,gopi.ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Gopi> I am getting bad effects as Venus is also retrograde and sincrely think it is bad effects of 6 house as  if venus in 7 then it aspects lagna then I must definitely get good effects.> Venus Dasa started in 1993 Iit was giving good effects till 2001 after that it has been giving bad effects ,you can say from 1993 to 2001 it gave 7 house effects and since 201 it is giving 6 house bhava effects-is  this possible---- --------- ------- > RegardsPuneet Ahuja> > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. . wrote:> > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. .> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> ancient_indian_ astrology> Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:45 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji,> Are you really getting bad effects is the crux of the matter.If so only then Bhava chart should be considered.But my personal opinion is both 6 as well as 7H could give bad effects but those bad effects vary and you know why.....> Love and regards,> gopi.> ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:> >> > DEAR GIRISH> > Thanks for your mailMy details are  Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm  My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart.> > Kindly give your advise for above.> > Warm RegardsPuneet Ahuja > > > > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon horamag@ wrote:> > > > Girish menon horamag@> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji> > Can you please give us your chart details> > Thanks> > Girish> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 Dear deepak,Thats strange going into d6 and d4. Further, can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp. Where did you get it from?RegardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel deepak sharma <deepak_rptech Tue, 1 Dec 2009 08:27:53 -0800 (PST) Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Puneet Ji,Without going into Birth time rectification / fixing of Ascendant, which mayrequire further inputs and study, it can be observed that -Your BP problem is due to debilitation of Sun in D-9 and Debilitation of Mars in D-6 Chart. Mars being dispositor of current dasha (irrespective of ascendant) also matters here. Weak Sun is also responsible for Job related problems though there must be other reasons as well.Best Regards,Deepak Sharmagopalakrishna <gopi_b927 > Sent: Tue, December 1, 2009 6:47:41 PM Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Puneet,according to my knowledge it will give the efects of both houses as well as 5thH since it is retro and you yourself are confirming it.Do not also forget as you said it will give lagna/12thH afects which you also mentioned.Anyway since it is a sandhi lagna i feel the birth time need to be checked/rectified. ......Love and regards,gopi.ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Gopi> I am getting bad effects as Venus is also retrograde and sincrely think it is bad effects of 6 house as  if venus in 7 then it aspects lagna then I must definitely get good effects.> Venus Dasa started in 1993 Iit was giving good effects till 2001 after that it has been giving bad effects ,you can say from 1993 to 2001 it gave 7 house effects and since 201 it is giving 6 house bhava effects-is  this possible---- --------- ------- > RegardsPuneet Ahuja> > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. . wrote:> > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. .> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> ancient_indian_ astrology> Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:45 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji,> Are you really getting bad effects is the crux of the matter.If so only then Bhava chart should be considered.But my personal opinion is both 6 as well as 7H could give bad effects but those bad effects vary and you know why.....> Love and regards,> gopi.> ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:> >> > DEAR GIRISH> > Thanks for your mailMy details are  Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm  My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart.> > Kindly give your advise for above.> > Warm RegardsPuneet Ahuja > > > > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon horamag@ wrote:> > > > Girish menon horamag@> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji> > Can you please give us your chart details> > Thanks> > Girish> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 Hi Santhosh,Kindly go through my earlier mail again -1.) D-4 Chart is not considered at all,2.) D-9 is considered to check the strength of Sun. Anything Strange?3.) Is it Strange to go into Shashtamsha Chart (D-6) for diseases?// can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp //Mars ruling muscular parts and blood should be checked for BP cases.Best Regards,Deepak Sharma "santhosh" <santhosh Sent: Tue, December 1, 2009 10:19:59 PM Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear deepak,Thats strange going into d6 and d4. Further, can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp. Where did you get it from?RegardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ > Tue, 1 Dec 2009 08:27:53 -0800 (PST)<ancient_indian_ astrology>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Puneet Ji,Without going into Birth time rectification / fixing of Ascendant, which mayrequire further inputs and study, it can be observed that -Your BP problem is due to debilitation of Sun in D-9 and Debilitation of Mars in D-6 Chart. Mars being dispositor of current dasha (irrespective of ascendant) also matters here. Weak Sun is also responsible for Job related problems though there must be other reasons as well.Best Regards,Deepak Sharmagopalakrishna <gopi_b927 >ancient_indian_ astrologyTue, December 1, 2009 6:47:41 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Puneet,according to my knowledge it will give the efects of both houses as well as 5thH since it is retro and you yourself are confirming it.Do not also forget as you said it will give lagna/12thH afects which you also mentioned.Anyway since it is a sandhi lagna i feel the birth time need to be checked/rectified. ......Love and regards,gopi.ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Gopi> I am getting bad effects as Venus is also retrograde and sincrely think it is bad effects of 6 house as  if venus in 7 then it aspects lagna then I must definitely get good effects.> Venus Dasa started in 1993 Iit was giving good effects till 2001 after that it has been giving bad effects ,you can say from 1993 to 2001 it gave 7 house effects and since 201 it is giving 6 house bhava effects-is  this possible---- --------- ------- > RegardsPuneet Ahuja> > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. . wrote:> > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. .> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> ancient_indian_ astrology> Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:45 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji,> Are you really getting bad effects is the crux of the matter.If so only then Bhava chart should be considered.But my personal opinion is both 6 as well as 7H could give bad effects but those bad effects vary and you know why.....> Love and regards,> gopi.> ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:> >> > DEAR GIRISH> > Thanks for your mailMy details are  Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm  My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart.> > Kindly give your advise for above.> > Warm RegardsPuneet Ahuja > > > > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon horamag@ wrote:> > > > Girish menon horamag@> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji> > Can you please give us your chart details> > Thanks> > Girish> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 Dear Santosh Ji,Is the Sixth house treated as "House of Divorce" as you mentioned below?May I ask you to throw some light upon this. Thank you.Best Regards,Deepak Sharma"santhosh" <santhosh Sent: Tue, December 1, 2009 8:24:19 PMRe: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Thats good surmise. That explains very well. Nevertheless, 7th lord is in the house of divorce or marital problems. But being in own navamsha, imparts some strength to the 7th bhava.RegardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel Girish menon <horamag > Tue, 1 Dec 2009 04:59:58 -0800 (PST)<ancient_indian_ astrology>Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Santosh Interseting case study about wrong birth time. The time 10:10 is not correct Within 3 minutes 23 seconds his lagna changes to scorpio Now if we calculate the lagna from scorpio as puneet said Negative is due to health after 2002 having BP problems,profession al problems in job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in family health and career. Gives more clarity Dear Puneetji I feel the bhava cakra is not the issue here but the wrong time which I don’t blame you for that Thanks and regards Girish --- On Tue, 12/1/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> wrote:puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRAancient_indian_ astrologyTuesday, December 1, 2009, 4:16 AM Dear SanthoshNegative is due to health after 2002 having BP problems,profession al problems in job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in family health and career.RegardsPuneet Ahuja--- On Mon, 30/11/09, Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> wrote:Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRAancient_indian_ astrologyMonday, 30 November, 2009, 10:37 PM Dear Puneet, Can you please clarify the negative effect? Is it related to marriage, children or health? Regards Santhosh ancient_indian_ astrology [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of puneet ahuja Tuesday, December 01, 2009 11:27 AM ancient_indian_ astrology Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA DEAR GIRISH Place-Mumbai Regards Puneet Ahuja --- On Mon, 30/11/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> wrote: puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA ancient_indian_ astrology Monday, 30 November, 2009, 8:25 PM DEAR GIRISH Thanks for your mail My details are Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart. Kindly give your advise for above. Warm Regards Puneet Ahuja --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon <horamag > wrote: Girish menon <horamag > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA ancient_indian_ astrology Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM Dear Puneet ji Can you please give us your chart details Thanks Girish The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.87/2536 - Release 12/01/09 02:35:00 The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Dear Deepak Ji,Here are my views on it: 6H is 12th from the 7th. 6H is also the house of litigation. For both these reasons it is definitely the house for divorce.Now there is another contreversial rule I learned from one of my teachers. 6H is also the house of "the other one" or the "person one is having an affair with". I forget the explanation for this, but apparently Parashara mentions this in one of his shlokas. So along with the 2H, 6H also can lead to "divorce due to interference from outside". Regards, -Manoj deepak sharma <deepak_rptech Sent: Tue, December 1, 2009 1:58:17 PMRe: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Santosh Ji,Is the Sixth house treated as "House of Divorce" as you mentioned below?May I ask you to throw some light upon this. Thank you.Best Regards,Deepak Sharma"santhosh@sudhamayi .com" <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>ancient_indian_ astrologyTue, December 1, 2009 8:24:19 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Thats good surmise. That explains very well. Nevertheless, 7th lord is in the house of divorce or marital problems. But being in own navamsha, imparts some strength to the 7th bhava.RegardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel Girish menon <horamag > Tue, 1 Dec 2009 04:59:58 -0800 (PST)<ancient_indian_ astrology>Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Santosh Interseting case study about wrong birth time. The time 10:10 is not correct Within 3 minutes 23 seconds his lagna changes to scorpio Now if we calculate the lagna from scorpio as puneet said Negative is due to health after 2002 having BP problems,profession al problems in job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in family health and career. Gives more clarity Dear Puneetji I feel the bhava cakra is not the issue here but the wrong time which I don’t blame you for that Thanks and regards Girish --- On Tue, 12/1/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> wrote:puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRAancient_indian_ astrologyTuesday, December 1, 2009, 4:16 AM Dear SanthoshNegative is due to health after 2002 having BP problems,profession al problems in job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in family health and career.RegardsPuneet Ahuja--- On Mon, 30/11/09, Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> wrote:Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRAancient_indian_ astrologyMonday, 30 November, 2009, 10:37 PM Dear Puneet, Can you please clarify the negative effect? Is it related to marriage, children or health? Regards Santhosh ancient_indian_ astrology [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of puneet ahuja Tuesday, December 01, 2009 11:27 AM ancient_indian_ astrology Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA DEAR GIRISH Place-Mumbai Regards Puneet Ahuja --- On Mon, 30/11/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> wrote: puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA ancient_indian_ astrology Monday, 30 November, 2009, 8:25 PM DEAR GIRISH Thanks for your mail My details are Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart. Kindly give your advise for above. Warm Regards Puneet Ahuja --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon <horamag > wrote: Girish menon <horamag > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA ancient_indian_ astrology Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM Dear Puneet ji Can you please give us your chart details Thanks Girish The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.87/2536 - Release 12/01/09 02:35:00 The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Dear deepak,I misstook d4. My mistake and apologies.I beg to differ with you on the signification for mars. Mars signifies bone marrow and not blood.Bone marrow works to produce blood and it has got nothing to do with the blood preasure. This could be due to deposits in the blood of colestrol and fat. Thats why bp and colestrol generally come together. Jupiter signifies fats and colestrol. You will see in his chart that ju is in neecha.His roga time started in venus dasa which in 6h after rectification. What roga? Because of ju, bp is definitely in picture. Ask him about colestrol also.By the way chandra signifies blood not moon. Here it means all liquid in the body including blood.I hope it is clearRegardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel deepak sharma <deepak_rptechTue, 1 Dec 2009 11:26:42 -0800 (PST)Re: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Hi Santhosh,Kindly go through my earlier mail again -1.) D-4 Chart is not considered at all,2.) D-9 is considered to check the strength of Sun. Anything Strange?3.) Is it Strange to go into Shashtamsha Chart (D-6) for diseases?// can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp //Mars ruling muscular parts and blood should be checked for BP cases.Best Regards,Deepak Sharma "santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com" <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> Sent: Tue, December 1, 2009 10:19:59 PM Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear deepak,Thats strange going into d6 and d4. Further, can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp. Where did you get it from?RegardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ >Tue, 1 Dec 2009 08:27:53 -0800 (PST)<ancient_indian_ astrology>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Puneet Ji,Without going into Birth time rectification / fixing of Ascendant, which mayrequire further inputs and study, it can be observed that -Your BP problem is due to debilitation of Sun in D-9 and Debilitation of Mars in D-6 Chart. Mars being dispositor of current dasha (irrespective of ascendant) also matters here. Weak Sun is also responsible for Job related problems though there must be other reasons as well.Best Regards,Deepak Sharmagopalakrishna <gopi_b927 >ancient_indian_ astrologyTue, December 1, 2009 6:47:41 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Puneet,according to my knowledge it will give the efects of both houses as well as 5thH since it is retro and you yourself are confirming it.Do not also forget as you said it will give lagna/12thH afects which you also mentioned.Anyway since it is a sandhi lagna i feel the birth time need to be checked/rectified. ......Love and regards,gopi.ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Gopi> I am getting bad effects as Venus is also retrograde and sincrely think it is bad effects of 6 house as  if venus in 7 then it aspects lagna then I must definitely get good effects.> Venus Dasa started in 1993 Iit was giving good effects till 2001 after that it has been giving bad effects ,you can say from 1993 to 2001 it gave 7 house effects and since 201 it is giving 6 house bhava effects-is  this possible---- ---------------- > RegardsPuneet Ahuja> > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. . wrote:> > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. .> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> ancient_indian_ astrology> Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:45 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji,> Are you really getting bad effects is the crux of the matter.If so only then Bhava chart should be considered.But my personal opinion is both 6 as well as 7H could give bad effects but those bad effects vary and you know why.....> Love and regards,> gopi.> ancient_indian_ astrology , puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:> >> > DEAR GIRISH> > Thanks for your mailMy details are  Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm  My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart.> > Kindly give your advise for above.> > Warm RegardsPuneet Ahuja > > > > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon horamag@ wrote:> > > > Girish menon horamag@> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji> > Can you please give us your chart details> > Thanks> > Girish> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Yes deepak. It does.RegardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel deepak sharma <deepak_rptechTue, 1 Dec 2009 12:58:17 -0800 (PST)Re: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Santosh Ji,Is the Sixth house treated as "House of Divorce" as you mentioned below?May I ask you to throw some light upon this. Thank you.Best Regards,Deepak Sharma"santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com" <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> Sent: Tue, December 1, 2009 8:24:19 PMRe: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Thats good surmise. That explains very well. Nevertheless, 7th lord is in the house of divorce or marital problems. But being in own navamsha, imparts some strength to the 7th bhava.RegardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel Girish menon <horamag >Tue, 1 Dec 2009 04:59:58 -0800 (PST)<ancient_indian_ astrology>Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Santosh Interseting case study about wrong birth time.The time 10:10 is not correctWithin 3 minutes 23 seconds his lagna changes to scorpioNow if we calculate the lagna from scorpio as puneet saidNegative is due to health after 2002 having BPproblems,profession al problems in job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,infamily health and career.Gives more clarityDear PuneetjiI feel the bhava cakra is not the issue here but the wrongtime which I don’t blame you for thatThanks and regardsGirish--- On Tue, 12/1/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> wrote:puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRAancient_indian_ astrologyTuesday, December 1, 2009, 4:16 AM Dear SanthoshNegative is due to health after 2002 having BP problems,profession al problems in job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in family health and career.RegardsPuneet Ahuja--- On Mon, 30/11/09, Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> wrote:Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRAancient_indian_ astrologyMonday, 30 November, 2009, 10:37 PM Dear Puneet, Can you please clarify the negativeeffect? Is it related to marriage, children or health? Regards Santhosh ancient_indian_ astrology [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of puneet ahujaTuesday, December 01, 200911:27 AMancient_indian_ astrologyRe:[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA DEAR GIRISH Place-Mumbai Regards Puneet Ahuja--- On Mon, 30/11/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com>wrote: puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRAancient_indian_ astrologyMonday, 30 November, 2009, 8:25 PM DEAR GIRISH Thanks for your mail My details are Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time10.10pm My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasaand it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I amgetting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart. Kindly give your advise for above. Warm Regards Puneet Ahuja --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon <horamag >wrote: Girish menon <horamag >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRAancient_indian_ astrologyMonday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM Dear Puneet jiCan you please give us your chart detailsThanks Girish The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! Seeyour Homepage. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.87/2536 - Release 12/01/09 02:35:00 The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 DEAR Deepakji/Manojji/Santhoshji/GirishjiTime has been correctly recorded at the hospital when I was born,have rechecked the same By your views, I think you are suggesting that my lagna is Scorpio and Venus as 6 lord is giiving me bad effects.Sun would become strong as for Scorpio lagna ,it is lord of 10 placed in 5 and RAHU is placed in 10 house in house of Sun that way carrer wouls have been good if it is Scorpio lagna. Yes Sun being neecha in navamsa makes it weak and I have to be very very careful in Sun dasa starting in 2013 from litigation,bad luck and health problems.But if we take Scorpio lagna then my Mercury dasa which was excellent cannot be explained with Scorpio lagna.Kindly give your views for the above Warm RegardsPuneet Ahuja--- On Tue, 1/12/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:Manoj Chandran <chandran_manojRe: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Date: Tuesday, 1 December, 2009, 4:51 PM Dear Deepak Ji,Here are my views on it: 6H is 12th from the 7th. 6H is also the house of litigation. For both these reasons it is definitely the house for divorce.Now there is another contreversial rule I learned from one of my teachers. 6H is also the house of "the other one" or the "person one is having an affair with". I forget the explanation for this, but apparently Parashara mentions this in one of his shlokas. So along with the 2H, 6H also can lead to "divorce due to interference from outside". Regards, -Manoj deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ >ancient_indian_ astrologyTue, December 1, 2009 1:58:17 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Santosh Ji,Is the Sixth house treated as "House of Divorce" as you mentioned below?May I ask you to throw some light upon this. Thank you.Best Regards,Deepak Sharma"santhosh@sudhamayi .com" <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>ancient_indian_ astrologyTue, December 1, 2009 8:24:19 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Thats good surmise. That explains very well. Nevertheless, 7th lord is in the house of divorce or marital problems. But being in own navamsha, imparts some strength to the 7th bhava.RegardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel Girish menon <horamag > Tue, 1 Dec 2009 04:59:58 -0800 (PST)<ancient_indian_ astrology>Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Santosh Interseting case study about wrong birth time. The time 10:10 is not correct Within 3 minutes 23 seconds his lagna changes to scorpio Now if we calculate the lagna from scorpio as puneet said Negative is due to health after 2002 having BP problems,profession al problems in job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in family health and career. Gives more clarity Dear Puneetji I feel the bhava cakra is not the issue here but the wrong time which I don’t blame you for that Thanks and regards Girish --- On Tue, 12/1/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> wrote:puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRAancient_indian_ astrologyTuesday, December 1, 2009, 4:16 AM Dear SanthoshNegative is due to health after 2002 having BP problems,profession al problems in job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in family health and career.RegardsPuneet Ahuja--- On Mon, 30/11/09, Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> wrote:Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRAancient_indian_ astrologyMonday, 30 November, 2009, 10:37 PM Dear Puneet, Can you please clarify the negative effect? Is it related to marriage, children or health? Regards Santhosh ancient_indian_ astrology [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of puneet ahuja Tuesday, December 01, 2009 11:27 AM ancient_indian_ astrology Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA DEAR GIRISH Place-Mumbai Regards Puneet Ahuja --- On Mon, 30/11/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> wrote: puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA ancient_indian_ astrology Monday, 30 November, 2009, 8:25 PM DEAR GIRISH Thanks for your mail My details are Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart. Kindly give your advise for above. Warm Regards Puneet Ahuja --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon <horamag > wrote: Girish menon <horamag > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA ancient_indian_ astrology Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM Dear Puneet ji Can you please give us your chart details Thanks Girish The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.87/2536 - Release 12/01/09 02:35:00 The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Dear Manoj Ji,Thank you so much for your valued opinion and I do agree with the rules you mentioned.I'm giving a hypothetical example to share my views on the subject -If sixth house of a native is extremely weak /afflicted. Say its lord is weak on multiple accounts like combustion, debilitation, debilitation in D-9 & other D- Charts, afflictions etc Can we predict divorce or family / marriage disputes from this?My opinion - Despite extreme afflictions or weaknesses to sixth house, the native may not suffer at all regarding the family matters / divorce. Native may have a happymarried life.Why - Because "Divorce" is not the "Primary signification" of Sixth house.This is a "Derived signification" based on some rules.The Primary signfication is the "dispute / litigation" (of course many others)When this "dispute / litigation" has some association with the houses / significatorsof marriage / family, a native is likely to face family or marital disputes resulting indivorce.If such an extremely weak and afflicted 6th house has no association with the houses /significators of marriage / family, it can not give divorce or disputes among family members.(Please note - "Derived Significations" or "Primary Significations" of 6th house maynot be mentioned in any of the books. I've used the terms to convey my message.)Best Regards,Deepak SharmaManoj Chandran <chandran_manoj Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 6:21:18 AMRe: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Deepak Ji,Here are my views on it: 6H is 12th from the 7th. 6H is also the house of litigation. For both these reasons it is definitely the house for divorce.Now there is another contreversial rule I learned from one of my teachers. 6H is also the house of "the other one" or the "person one is having an affair with". I forget the explanation for this, but apparently Parashara mentions this in one of his shlokas. So along with the 2H, 6H also can lead to "divorce due to interference from outside". Regards, -Manoj deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ >ancient_indian_ astrologyTue, December 1, 2009 1:58:17 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Santosh Ji,Is the Sixth house treated as "House of Divorce" as you mentioned below?May I ask you to throw some light upon this. Thank you.Best Regards,Deepak Sharma"santhosh@sudhamayi .com" <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>ancient_indian_ astrologyTue, December 1, 2009 8:24:19 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Thats good surmise. That explains very well. Nevertheless, 7th lord is in the house of divorce or marital problems. But being in own navamsha, imparts some strength to the 7th bhava.RegardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel Girish menon <horamag > Tue, 1 Dec 2009 04:59:58 -0800 (PST)<ancient_indian_ astrology>Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Santosh Interseting case study about wrong birth time. The time 10:10 is not correct Within 3 minutes 23 seconds his lagna changes to scorpio Now if we calculate the lagna from scorpio as puneet said Negative is due to health after 2002 having BP problems,profession al problems in job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in family health and career. Gives more clarity Dear Puneetji I feel the bhava cakra is not the issue here but the wrong time which I don’t blame you for that Thanks and regards Girish --- On Tue, 12/1/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> wrote:puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRAancient_indian_ astrologyTuesday, December 1, 2009, 4:16 AM Dear SanthoshNegative is due to health after 2002 having BP problems,profession al problems in job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in family health and career.RegardsPuneet Ahuja--- On Mon, 30/11/09, Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> wrote:Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRAancient_indian_ astrologyMonday, 30 November, 2009, 10:37 PM Dear Puneet, Can you please clarify the negative effect? Is it related to marriage, children or health? Regards Santhosh ancient_indian_ astrology [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of puneet ahuja Tuesday, December 01, 2009 11:27 AM ancient_indian_ astrology Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA DEAR GIRISH Place-Mumbai Regards Puneet Ahuja --- On Mon, 30/11/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> wrote: puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA ancient_indian_ astrology Monday, 30 November, 2009, 8:25 PM DEAR GIRISH Thanks for your mail My details are Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart. Kindly give your advise for above. Warm Regards Puneet Ahuja --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon <horamag > wrote: Girish menon <horamag > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA ancient_indian_ astrology Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM Dear Puneet ji Can you please give us your chart details Thanks Girish The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.87/2536 - Release 12/01/09 02:35:00 The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 DEAR SANTHOSHJupiter is neecha but it is neechabanga as Saturn lord of sign where it is neecha is with him and lord of exaltation sign where Jupiter exalts,Moon is in kendra from Jupiter and aspects Jupiter.Are you suggesting that Jupiter is still neecha and not neechabhnaga that is why it is giving bad effects in healthRegardsPuneet Ahuja --- On Tue, 1/12/09, santhosh <santhosh wrote:santhosh <santhoshRe: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Date: Tuesday, 1 December, 2009, 5:40 PM Dear deepak,I misstook d4. My mistake and apologies.I beg to differ with you on the signification for mars. Mars signifies bone marrow and not blood.Bone marrow works to produce blood and it has got nothing to do with the blood preasure. This could be due to deposits in the blood of colestrol and fat. Thats why bp and colestrol generally come together. Jupiter signifies fats and colestrol. You will see in his chart that ju is in neecha.His roga time started in venus dasa which in 6h after rectification. What roga? Because of ju, bp is definitely in picture. Ask him about colestrol also.By the way chandra signifies blood not moon. Here it means all liquid in the body including blood.I hope it is clearRegardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ > Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:26:42 -0800 (PST)<ancient_indian_ astrology>Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Hi Santhosh,Kindly go through my earlier mail again -1.) D-4 Chart is not considered at all,2.) D-9 is considered to check the strength of Sun. Anything Strange?3.) Is it Strange to go into Shashtamsha Chart (D-6) for diseases?// can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp //Mars ruling muscular parts and blood should be checked for BP cases.Best Regards,Deepak Sharma "santhosh@sudhamayi .com" <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>ancient_indian_ astrologyTue, December 1, 2009 10:19:59 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear deepak,Thats strange going into d6 and d4. Further, can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp. Where did you get it from?RegardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ > Tue, 1 Dec 2009 08:27:53 -0800 (PST)<ancient_indian_ astrology>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Puneet Ji,Without going into Birth time rectification / fixing of Ascendant, which mayrequire further inputs and study, it can be observed that -Your BP problem is due to debilitation of Sun in D-9 and Debilitation of Mars in D-6 Chart. Mars being dispositor of current dasha (irrespective of ascendant) also matters here. Weak Sun is also responsible for Job related problems though there must be other reasons as well.Best Regards,Deepak Sharmagopalakrishna <gopi_b927 >ancient_indian_ astrologyTue, December 1, 2009 6:47:41 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Puneet,according to my knowledge it will give the efects of both houses as well as 5thH since it is retro and you yourself are confirming it.Do not also forget as you said it will give lagna/12thH afects which you also mentioned.Anyway since it is a sandhi lagna i feel the birth time need to be checked/rectified. ......Love and regards,gopi.ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Gopi> I am getting bad effects as Venus is also retrograde and sincrely think it is bad effects of 6 house as  if venus in 7 then it aspects lagna then I must definitely get good effects.> Venus Dasa started in 1993 Iit was giving good effects till 2001 after that it has been giving bad effects ,you can say from 1993 to 2001 it gave 7 house effects and since 201 it is giving 6 house bhava effects-is  this possible---- --------- ------- > RegardsPuneet Ahuja> > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. . wrote:> > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. .> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> ancient_indian_ astrology> Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:45 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji,> Are you really getting bad effects is the crux of the matter.If so only then Bhava chart should be considered.But my personal opinion is both 6 as well as 7H could give bad effects but those bad effects vary and you know why.....> Love and regards,> gopi.> ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:> >> > DEAR GIRISH> > Thanks for your mailMy details are  Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm  My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart.> > Kindly give your advise for above.> > Warm RegardsPuneet Ahuja > > > > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon horamag@ wrote:> > > > Girish menon horamag@> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji> > Can you please give us your chart details> > Thanks> > Girish> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Dear Deepak Ji, You make some good points. Agreed. 6H/6L has to be associated with 7H/7L to cause divorce. Even then it may not happen unless more affliction to 7H/7L and/or Venus/Jupiter (depending on male or female) and/or disposition of Navamsha and also affliction to 2H/2L as well. Here, as per your original point, 12H/12L affliction would also point in the same direction. Ofcourse, most importantly, Dasha sequence is critical. Regards, -Manoj , deepak sharma <deepak_rptech wrote: > > Dear Manoj Ji, > > Thank you so much for your valued opinion and I do agree with the rules you > mentioned. > I'm giving a hypothetical example to share my views on the subject - > If sixth house of a native is extremely weak /afflicted. Say its lord is weak on multiple > accounts like combustion, debilitation, debilitation in D-9 & other D- Charts, afflictions etc > Can we predict divorce or family / marriage disputes from this? > My opinion - Despite extreme afflictions or weaknesses to sixth house, the native > may not suffer at all regarding the family matters / divorce. Native may have a happy > married life. > Why - Because " Divorce " is not the " Primary signification " of Sixth house. > This is a " Derived signification " based on some rules. > The Primary signfication is the " dispute / litigation " (of course many others) > When this " dispute / litigation " has some association with the houses / significators > of marriage / family, a native is likely to face family or marital disputes resulting in > divorce. > If such an extremely weak and afflicted 6th house has no association with the houses / > significators of marriage / family, it can not give divorce or disputes among family members. > (Please note - " Derived Significations " or " Primary Significations " of 6th house may > not be mentioned in any of the books. I've used the terms to convey my message.) > Best Regards, > Deepak Sharma > > > > ________________________________ > Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj > > Wed, December 2, 2009 6:21:18 AM > Re: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > Dear Deepak Ji, > > Here are my views on it: 6H is 12th from the 7th. 6H is also the house of litigation. For both these reasons it is definitely the house for divorce. > > Now there is another contreversial rule I learned from one of my teachers. 6H is also the house of " the other one " or the " person one is having an affair with " . I forget the explanation for this, but apparently Parashara mentions this in one of his shlokas. So along with the 2H, 6H also can lead to " divorce due to interference from outside " . > > > Regards, > -Manoj > > > > > > ________________________________ > deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ > > ancient_indian_ astrology > Tue, December 1, 2009 1:58:17 PM > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > Dear Santosh Ji, > Is the Sixth house treated as " House of Divorce " as you mentioned below? > May I ask you to throw some light upon this. Thank you. > > Best Regards, > Deepak Sharma > > > ________________________________ > " santhosh@sudhamayi .com " <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> > ancient_indian_ astrology > Tue, December 1, 2009 8:24:19 PM > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > Thats good surmise. That explains very well. Nevertheless, 7th lord is in the house of divorce or marital problems. But being in own navamsha, imparts some strength to the 7th bhava. > Regards > Santhosh > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > ________________________________ > > Girish menon <horamag > > Tue, 1 Dec 2009 04:59:58 -0800 (PST) > <ancient_indian_ astrology> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > Dear Santosh > Interseting case study about wrong birth time. > The time 10:10 is not correct > Within 3 minutes 23 seconds his lagna changes to scorpio > Now if we calculate the lagna from scorpio as puneet said > Negative is due to health after 2002 having BP > problems,profession al problems in job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in > family health and career. > Gives more clarity > Dear Puneetji > I feel the bhava cakra is not the issue here but the wrong > time which I don’t blame you for that > Thanks and regards > Girish > > --- On Tue, 12/1/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> wrote: > > > >puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> > >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > >ancient_indian_ astrology > >Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 4:16 AM > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >Dear Santhosh > > > >Negative is due to health after 2002 having BP problems,profession al problems in job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in family health and career. > > > >Regards > >Puneet Ahuja > > > >--- On Mon, 30/11/09, Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> wrote: > > > > > >>Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> > >>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > >>ancient_indian_ astrology > >>Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:37 PM > >> > >> > >>>> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>> > >>Dear Puneet, > >> > >>Can you please clarify the negative > >>effect? Is it related to marriage, children or health? > >> > >>Regards > >>Santhosh > >> > >> > >>>> > >>>> > ________________________________ > >> > >>ancient_indian_ astrology [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of puneet ahuja > >>Tuesday, December 01, 2009 > >>11:27 AM > >>ancient_indian_ astrology > >>Re: > >>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > >> > >> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>DEAR GIRISH > >> > >>Place-Mumbai > >> > >>Regards > >>Puneet Ahuja > >> > >>>> --- On Mon, 30/11/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> >> wrote: > >> > >>>> puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> > >>>> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > >>>> ancient_indian_ astrology > >>>> Monday, 30 November, 2009, 8:25 PM > >> > >>DEAR GIRISH > >> > >>Thanks for your mail > >>My details are Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time > >> 10.10pm > >>My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa > >> and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am > >> getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart. > >> > >>Kindly give your advise for above. > >> > >>Warm Regards > >>Puneet Ahuja > >> > >> > >>>> --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon <horamag > >> wrote: > >> > >>>> Girish menon <horamag > > >>>> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > >>>> ancient_indian_ astrology > >>>> Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM > >> > >>Dear Puneet ji > >>>> Can you please give us your chart details > >>>> Thanks > >>>> Girish > >> > >> > >> > >>>> > ________________________________ > >> > >>The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See > >>your Homepage. > >> > >>>>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >>>>Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.87/2536 - Release 12/01/09 02:35:00 > >> > > > ________________________________ > >The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Dear Puneet Ji, I am not following this thread closely enough to comment on BT rectification. I just commented on 6H/divorce significations on a generic basis. I am sure others who are following closely will share their views. Regards, -Manoj , puneet ahuja <punsoft2003 wrote: > > DEAR Deepakji/Manojji/Santhoshji/Girishji > Time has been correctly recorded at the hospital when I was born,have rechecked the same By your views, I think you are suggesting that my lagna is Scorpio and Venus as 6 lord is giiving me bad effects.Sun would become strong as for Scorpio lagna ,it is lord of 10 placed in 5 and  RAHU is placed in 10 house in house of Sun that way carrer wouls have been good if it is Scorpio lagna.   > > Yes Sun being neecha in navamsa makes it weak and I have to be very very careful in Sun dasa starting in 2013 from litigation,bad luck and health problems. > But if we take Scorpio lagna then my Mercury dasa which was excellent  cannot be explained with Scorpio lagna. > Kindly give your views for the above > Warm RegardsPuneet Ahuja > --- On Tue, 1/12/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: > > Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj > Re: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > Tuesday, 1 December, 2009, 4:51 PM > > > > > > > > > >  > > > Dear Deepak Ji, > > Here are my views on it: 6H is 12th from the 7th. 6H is also the house of litigation. For both these reasons it is definitely the house for divorce. > > Now there is another contreversial rule I learned from one of my teachers. 6H is also the house of " the other one " or the " person one is having an affair with " . I forget the explanation for this, but apparently Parashara mentions this in one of his shlokas. So along with the 2H, 6H also can lead to " divorce due to interference from outside " . >  Regards, -Manoj > > deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ > > ancient_indian_ astrology > Tue, December 1, 2009 1:58:17 PM > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > >  Dear Santosh Ji, > Is the Sixth house treated as " House of Divorce " as you mentioned below? > May I ask you to throw some light upon this. Thank you. > Best Regards, > Deepak Sharma > " santhosh@sudhamayi .com " <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> > ancient_indian_ astrology > Tue, December 1, 2009 8:24:19 PM > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thats good surmise. That explains very well. Nevertheless, 7th lord is in the house of divorce or marital problems. But being in own navamsha, imparts some strength to the 7th bhava. > Regards > Santhosh > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel Girish menon <horamag > > Tue, 1 Dec 2009 04:59:58 -0800 (PST)<ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com>Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > >  > > Dear Santosh > > Interseting case study about wrong birth time. > > The time 10:10 is not correct > > Within 3 minutes 23 seconds his lagna changes to scorpio > > Now if we calculate the lagna from scorpio as puneet said > > Negative is due to health after 2002 having BP > problems,profession al problems in job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in > family health and career. > > Gives more clarity > > Dear Puneetji > > I feel the bhava cakra is not the issue here but the wrong > time which I don’t blame you for that > > Thanks and regards > > Girish > > > > --- On Tue, 12/1/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> wrote: > > puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > ancient_indian_ astrology > Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 4:16 AM >  Dear Santhosh > > Negative is due to health after 2002 having BP problems,profession al problems in job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in family health and career. > > Regards > Puneet Ahuja > > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> wrote: > > Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > ancient_indian_ astrology > Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:37 PM >  > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet, > >  > > Can you please clarify the negative > effect? Is it related to marriage, children or health? > >  > > Regards > > Santhosh > >  > >  > > > ancient_indian_ astrology [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of puneet ahuja > > Tuesday, December 01, 2009 > 11:27 AM > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Re: > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > >  > >  > > > > > > DEAR GIRISH > >  > > > Place-Mumbai > > >  > > > Regards > > > Puneet Ahuja > > > > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> > wrote: > > > puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Monday, 30 November, 2009, 8:25 PM > >  > > > > > DEAR GIRISH > >  > > > Thanks for your mail > > > My details are  Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time > 10.10pm  > > > My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa > and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am > getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart. > > >  > > > Kindly give your advise for above. > > >  > > > Warm Regards > > > Puneet Ahuja > > >  > > > > > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon <horamag > > wrote: > > > Girish menon <horamag > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM > >  > > > > > Dear Puneet ji > > Can you please give us your chart details > > Thanks > > Girish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See > your Homepage. > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.87/2536 - Release 12/01/09 02:35:00 > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Dear Puneet jiYes Jupiter in your chart has neecha banga raja yoga.If we place your lagna in scorpio then your venus gets posted in 6th Depositor of venus mars gets posted in the 8th.That why you are facing difficulties.But lord of 6 in 8 is also vipareetha raja yoga.Just to confirm your birth time since that is an issue here please give us some important events in your life like marriage profession etcRegardsGirish--- On Tue, 12/1/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003 wrote:puneet ahuja <punsoft2003Re: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 9:27 PM DEAR SANTHOSHJupiter is neecha but it is neechabanga as Saturn lord of sign where it is neecha is with him and lord of exaltation sign where Jupiter exalts,Moon is in kendra from Jupiter and aspects Jupiter.Are you suggesting that Jupiter is still neecha and not neechabhnaga that is why it is giving bad effects in healthRegardsPuneet Ahuja --- On Tue, 1/12/09, santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> wrote:santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRAancient_indian_ astrologyTuesday, 1 December, 2009, 5:40 PM Dear deepak,I misstook d4. My mistake and apologies.I beg to differ with you on the signification for mars. Mars signifies bone marrow and not blood.Bone marrow works to produce blood and it has got nothing to do with the blood preasure. This could be due to deposits in the blood of colestrol and fat. Thats why bp and colestrol generally come together. Jupiter signifies fats and colestrol. You will see in his chart that ju is in neecha.His roga time started in venus dasa which in 6h after rectification. What roga? Because of ju, bp is definitely in picture. Ask him about colestrol also.By the way chandra signifies blood not moon. Here it means all liquid in the body including blood.I hope it is clearRegardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ > Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:26:42 -0800 (PST)<ancient_indian_ astrology>Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Hi Santhosh,Kindly go through my earlier mail again -1.) D-4 Chart is not considered at all,2.) D-9 is considered to check the strength of Sun. Anything Strange?3.) Is it Strange to go into Shashtamsha Chart (D-6) for diseases?// can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp //Mars ruling muscular parts and blood should be checked for BP cases.Best Regards,Deepak Sharma "santhosh@sudhamayi .com" <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>ancient_indian_ astrologyTue, December 1, 2009 10:19:59 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear deepak,Thats strange going into d6 and d4. Further, can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp. Where did you get it from?RegardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ > Tue, 1 Dec 2009 08:27:53 -0800 (PST)<ancient_indian_ astrology>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Puneet Ji,Without going into Birth time rectification / fixing of Ascendant, which mayrequire further inputs and study, it can be observed that -Your BP problem is due to debilitation of Sun in D-9 and Debilitation of Mars in D-6 Chart. Mars being dispositor of current dasha (irrespective of ascendant) also matters here. Weak Sun is also responsible for Job related problems though there must be other reasons as well.Best Regards,Deepak Sharmagopalakrishna <gopi_b927 >ancient_indian_ astrologyTue, December 1, 2009 6:47:41 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Puneet,according to my knowledge it will give the efects of both houses as well as 5thH since it is retro and you yourself are confirming it.Do not also forget as you said it will give lagna/12thH afects which you also mentioned.Anyway since it is a sandhi lagna i feel the birth time need to be checked/rectified. ......Love and regards,gopi.ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Gopi> I am getting bad effects as Venus is also retrograde and sincrely think it is bad effects of 6 house as  if venus in 7 then it aspects lagna then I must definitely get good effects.> Venus Dasa started in 1993 Iit was giving good effects till 2001 after that it has been giving bad effects ,you can say from 1993 to 2001 it gave 7 house effects and since 201 it is giving 6 house bhava effects-is  this possible---- --------- ------- > RegardsPuneet Ahuja> > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. . wrote:> > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. .> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> ancient_indian_ astrology> Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:45 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji,> Are you really getting bad effects is the crux of the matter.If so only then Bhava chart should be considered.But my personal opinion is both 6 as well as 7H could give bad effects but those bad effects vary and you know why.....> Love and regards,> gopi.> ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:> >> > DEAR GIRISH> > Thanks for your mailMy details are  Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm  My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart.> > Kindly give your advise for above.> > Warm RegardsPuneet Ahuja > > > > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon horamag@ wrote:> > > > Girish menon horamag@> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji> > Can you please give us your chart details> > Thanks> > Girish> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Dear Puneet Ji, Neecha Bhanga is like a Prosthetic Leg. It does not mean that the Leg was not severed. So even with Neecha Bhanga, there will still be sufficient damage, it just will not be a complete disaster. Once again this is a generic comment on Neecha Bhanga, not necessairily on this specific case. Regards, -Manoj , puneet ahuja <punsoft2003 wrote: > > DEAR SANTHOSH > Jupiter is neecha but it is neechabanga as Saturn lord of sign where it is neecha is with him and lord of exaltation sign where Jupiter exalts,Moon is in kendra from Jupiter and aspects Jupiter. > Are you suggesting that Jupiter is still neecha and not neechabhnaga that is why it is giving bad effects in health > RegardsPuneet Ahuja > > --- On Tue, 1/12/09, santhosh <santhosh wrote: > > santhosh <santhosh > Re: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > Tuesday, 1 December, 2009, 5:40 PM > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear deepak, > I misstook d4. My mistake and apologies. > > I beg to differ with you on the signification for mars. Mars signifies bone marrow and not blood. > Bone marrow works to produce blood and it has got nothing to do with the blood preasure. This could be due to deposits in the blood of colestrol and fat. Thats why bp and colestrol generally come together. Jupiter signifies fats and colestrol. You will see in his chart that ju is in neecha. > His roga time started in venus dasa which in 6h after rectification. What roga? Because of ju, bp is definitely in picture. Ask him about colestrol also. > By the way chandra signifies blood not moon. Here it means all liquid in the body including blood. > I hope it is clear > Regards > Santhosh > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ > > Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:26:42 -0800 (PST)<ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com>Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > >  Hi Santhosh, > Kindly go through my earlier mail again - > 1.) D-4 Chart is not considered at all, > 2.) D-9 is considered to check the strength of Sun. Anything Strange? > 3.) Is it Strange to go into Shashtamsha Chart (D-6) for diseases? > // can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp // > Mars ruling muscular parts and blood should be checked for BP cases. > Best Regards, > Deepak Sharma            > " santhosh@sudhamayi .com " <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> > ancient_indian_ astrology > Tue, December 1, 2009 10:19:59 PM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear deepak, > > Thats strange going into d6 and d4. Further, can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp. Where did you get it from? > Regards > Santhosh > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ > > Tue, 1 Dec 2009 08:27:53 -0800 (PST)<ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > >  > Dear Puneet Ji, > Without going into Birth time rectification / fixing of Ascendant, which may > require further inputs and study, it can be observed that - > Your BP problem is due to debilitation of Sun in D-9 and Debilitation of Mars in D-6 Chart. Mars being dispositor of current dasha (irrespective of ascendant) also matters here.          Weak Sun is also responsible for Job related problems though there must be other reasons as well.Best Regards, > Deepak Sharma > > gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 > > ancient_indian_ astrology > Tue, December 1, 2009 6:47:41 PM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > >  > Dear Puneet, > according to my knowledge it will give the efects of both houses as well as 5thH since it is retro and you yourself are confirming it.Do not also forget as you said it will give lagna/12thH afects which you also mentioned.Anyway since it is a sandhi lagna i feel the birth time need to be checked/rectified. ...... > Love and regards, > gopi. > ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear Gopi > > I am getting bad effects as Venus is also retrograde and sincrely think it is bad effects of 6 house as  if venus in 7 then it aspects lagna then I must definitely get good effects. > > Venus Dasa started in 1993 Iit was giving good effects till 2001 after that it has been giving bad effects ,you can say from 1993 to 2001 it gave 7 house effects and since 201 it is giving 6 house bhava effects-is  this possible---- --------- > ------- > > RegardsPuneet Ahuja > > > > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ . wrote: > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ . > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:45 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji, > > Are you really getting bad effects is the crux of the matter.If so only then Bhava chart should be considered.But my personal opinion is both 6 as well as 7H could give bad effects but those bad effects vary and you know why..... > > Love and regards, > > gopi. > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ > . com, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > DEAR GIRISH > > > Thanks for your mailMy details are  Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm  My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart. > > > Kindly give your advise for above. > > > Warm RegardsPuneet Ahuja > > > > > > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon horamag@ wrote: > > > > > > Girish menon horamag@ > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji > > > Can you please give us your chart details > > > Thanks > > > Girish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Dear Puneet, You are right about neechabhanga. But you cannot arrive at a straight forward conclusion like that. A planet gives various benefits depending upon lot of factors. Neecha planet refuses to give the same. However, when the neecha is cancelled as you rightly pointed out many of the benefits is recovered and still it gives some bad effects of being in neecha. In other words it is not a perfect cancellation and it is not the same as being in exaltation. Generally I have seen that as far as health and physical analysis is concerned, the planet continues to give effects of it being in neecha and other aspects such as wealth for which Jupiter is a karaka improves with its neechabhanga. Moon being in sukla paksha dasami has paksha bala which would be why your health problems will not be severe and when the dasa changes to a good one it can even eliminate your health problems. I would advice you to also check you cholesterol. As a remedy I can advice you to take raw garlic everyday. Now this will be difficult for many people both because of the taste and also because of the mouth odor. Hence, as an alternative you can take garlic pearl tablet everyday (ranbaxy). I take this for my bp and cholesterol and it is under excellent control. Best Wishes Santhosh On Behalf Of puneet ahuja Wednesday, December 02, 2009 10:57 AM To: Re: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA DEAR SANTHOSH Jupiter is neecha but it is neechabanga as Saturn lord of sign where it is neecha is with him and lord of exaltation sign where Jupiter exalts,Moon is in kendra from Jupiter and aspects Jupiter. Are you suggesting that Jupiter is still neecha and not neechabhnaga that is why it is giving bad effects in health Regards Puneet Ahuja --- On Tue, 1/12/09, santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> wrote: santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> Re: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Tuesday, 1 December, 2009, 5:40 PM Dear deepak, I misstook d4. My mistake and apologies. I beg to differ with you on the signification for mars. Mars signifies bone marrow and not blood. Bone marrow works to produce blood and it has got nothing to do with the blood preasure. This could be due to deposits in the blood of colestrol and fat. Thats why bp and colestrol generally come together. Jupiter signifies fats and colestrol. You will see in his chart that ju is in neecha. His roga time started in venus dasa which in 6h after rectification. What roga? Because of ju, bp is definitely in picture. Ask him about colestrol also. By the way chandra signifies blood not moon. Here it means all liquid in the body including blood. I hope it is clear Regards Santhosh Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ > Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:26:42 -0800 (PST) <ancient_indian_ astrology> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Hi Santhosh, Kindly go through my earlier mail again - 1.) D-4 Chart is not considered at all, 2.) D-9 is considered to check the strength of Sun. Anything Strange? 3.) Is it Strange to go into Shashtamsha Chart (D-6) for diseases? // can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp // Mars ruling muscular parts and blood should be checked for BP cases. Best Regards, Deepak Sharma " santhosh@sudhamayi .com " <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com Tue, December 1, 2009 10:19:59 PM [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear deepak, Thats strange going into d6 and d4. Further, can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp. Where did you get it from? Regards Santhosh Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ > Tue, 1 Dec 2009 08:27:53 -0800 (PST) <ancient_indian_ astrology> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Puneet Ji, Without going into Birth time rectification / fixing of Ascendant, which may require further inputs and study, it can be observed that - Your BP problem is due to debilitation of Sun in D-9 and Debilitation of Mars in D-6 Chart. Mars being dispositor of current dasha (irrespective of ascendant) also matters here. Weak Sun is also responsible for Job related problems though there must be other reasons as well. Best Regards, Deepak Sharma gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 > To: ancient_indian_ astrology Tue, December 1, 2009 6:47:41 PM [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Puneet, according to my knowledge it will give the efects of both houses as well as 5thH since it is retro and you yourself are confirming it.Do not also forget as you said it will give lagna/12thH afects which you also mentioned.Anyway since it is a sandhi lagna i feel the birth time need to be checked/rectified. ...... Love and regards, gopi. ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Gopi > I am getting bad effects as Venus is also retrograde and sincrely think it is bad effects of 6 house as  if venus in 7 then it aspects lagna then I must definitely get good effects. > Venus Dasa started in 1993 Iit was giving good effects till 2001 after that it has been giving bad effects ,you can say from 1993 to 2001 it gave 7 house effects and since 201 it is giving 6 house bhava effects-is  this possible---- --------- ------- > RegardsPuneet Ahuja > > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. . wrote: > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. . > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > ancient_indian_ astrology > Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:45 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji, > Are you really getting bad effects is the crux of the matter.If so only then Bhava chart should be considered.But my personal opinion is both 6 as well as 7H could give bad effects but those bad effects vary and you know why..... > Love and regards, > gopi. > ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ....> wrote: > > > > DEAR GIRISH > > Thanks for your mailMy details are  Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm  My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart. > > Kindly give your advise for above. > > Warm RegardsPuneet Ahuja > > > > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon horamag@ wrote: > > > > Girish menon horamag@ > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji > > Can you please give us your chart details > > Thanks > > Girish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Dear Deepak, Allow me to say something too on this which might be further clarified by manojji. In your analsyis you straight away went to d6 and d9 for arriving at a conclusion. Please remember that varga positions of planets are mainly used for assessing the strength of the planet in the rashi chart and it is used for cross verification of points noticed in the rashi chart. Your primary analysis should be based on the rashi chart and then you can substantiate it from the varga position. But if you cannot derive something from a rashi chart yet you see that in a varga position it cannot be a conclusive prediction. You will notice that all along I use the phrase varga position and not varga chart because in traditional astrology there is no such thing as varga chart. It is available only in computer software. It is the position of the planet in the main rashi chart when the rashi is sub-divided into different parts which pin points an issue noticed in the rashi chart. Now coming to your question in the email below. You are right just because 6th house is weak you cannot say divorce. It has to be cross verified with 7th house and its lord, varga positions of 7th lord, planets in 7th house, attributes of karaka for marriage, venus etc to arrive at a conclusion because 6th house signifies many other things also, derived or primary. Regards Santhosh On Behalf Of deepak sharma Wednesday, December 02, 2009 10:56 AM To: Re: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Manoj Ji, Thank you so much for your valued opinion and I do agree with the rules you mentioned. I'm giving a hypothetical example to share my views on the subject - If sixth house of a native is extremely weak /afflicted. Say its lord is weak on multiple accounts like combustion, debilitation, debilitation in D-9 & other D- Charts, afflictions etc Can we predict divorce or family / marriage disputes from this? My opinion - Despite extreme afflictions or weaknesses to sixth house, the native may not suffer at all regarding the family matters / divorce. Native may have a happy married life. Why - Because " Divorce " is not the " Primary signification " of Sixth house. This is a " Derived signification " based on some rules. The Primary signfication is the " dispute / litigation " (of course many others) When this " dispute / litigation " has some association with the houses / significators of marriage / family, a native is likely to face family or marital disputes resulting in divorce. If such an extremely weak and afflicted 6th house has no association with the houses / significators of marriage / family, it can not give divorce or disputes among family members. (Please note - " Derived Significations " or " Primary Significations " of 6th house may not be mentioned in any of the books. I've used the terms to convey my message.) Best Regards, Deepak Sharma Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj > Wed, December 2, 2009 6:21:18 AM Re: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Deepak Ji, Here are my views on it: 6H is 12th from the 7th. 6H is also the house of litigation. For both these reasons it is definitely the house for divorce. Now there is another contreversial rule I learned from one of my teachers. 6H is also the house of " the other one " or the " person one is having an affair with " . I forget the explanation for this, but apparently Parashara mentions this in one of his shlokas. So along with the 2H, 6H also can lead to " divorce due to interference from outside " . Regards, -Manoj deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com Tue, December 1, 2009 1:58:17 PM Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Santosh Ji, Is the Sixth house treated as " House of Divorce " as you mentioned below? May I ask you to throw some light upon this. Thank you. Best Regards, Deepak Sharma " santhosh@sudhamayi .com " <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com Tue, December 1, 2009 8:24:19 PM Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Thats good surmise. That explains very well. Nevertheless, 7th lord is in the house of divorce or marital problems. But being in own navamsha, imparts some strength to the 7th bhava. Regards Santhosh Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel Girish menon <horamag > Tue, 1 Dec 2009 04:59:58 -0800 (PST) <ancient_indian_ astrology> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Santosh Interseting case study about wrong birth time. The time 10:10 is not correct Within 3 minutes 23 seconds his lagna changes to scorpio Now if we calculate the lagna from scorpio as puneet said Negative is due to health after 2002 having BP problems,profession al problems in job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in family health and career. Gives more clarity Dear Puneetji I feel the bhava cakra is not the issue here but the wrong time which I don’t blame you for that Thanks and regards Girish --- On Tue, 12/1/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> wrote: puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA ancient_indian_ astrology Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 4:16 AM Dear Santhosh Negative is due to health after 2002 having BP problems,profession al problems in job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in family health and career. Regards Puneet Ahuja --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> wrote: Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA ancient_indian_ astrology Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:37 PM Dear Puneet, Can you please clarify the negative effect? Is it related to marriage, children or health? Regards Santhosh ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of puneet ahuja Tuesday, December 01, 2009 11:27 AM ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA DEAR GIRISH Place-Mumbai Regards Puneet Ahuja --- On Mon, 30/11/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> wrote: puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA ancient_indian_ astrology Monday, 30 November, 2009, 8:25 PM DEAR GIRISH Thanks for your mail My details are Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart. Kindly give your advise for above. Warm Regards Puneet Ahuja --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon <horamag > wrote: Girish menon <horamag > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA ancient_indian_ astrology Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM Dear Puneet ji Can you please give us your chart details Thanks Girish The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.87/2536 - Release 12/01/09 02:35:00 The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.89/2539 - Release 12/02/09 01:02:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Dear Manoj ji, I liked the metaphor J Regards Santhosh On Behalf Of Manoj Wednesday, December 02, 2009 11:57 AM To: Subject: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Puneet Ji, Neecha Bhanga is like a Prosthetic Leg. It does not mean that the Leg was not severed. So even with Neecha Bhanga, there will still be sufficient damage, it just will not be a complete disaster. Once again this is a generic comment on Neecha Bhanga, not necessairily on this specific case. Regards, -Manoj , puneet ahuja <punsoft2003 wrote: > > DEAR SANTHOSH > Jupiter is neecha but it is neechabanga as Saturn lord of sign where it is neecha is with him and lord of exaltation sign where Jupiter exalts,Moon is in kendra from Jupiter and aspects Jupiter. > Are you suggesting that Jupiter is still neecha and not neechabhnaga that is why it is giving bad effects in health > RegardsPuneet Ahuja > > --- On Tue, 1/12/09, santhosh <santhosh wrote: > > santhosh <santhosh > Re: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > Tuesday, 1 December, 2009, 5:40 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear deepak, > I misstook d4. My mistake and apologies. > > I beg to differ with you on the signification for mars. Mars signifies bone marrow and not blood. > Bone marrow works to produce blood and it has got nothing to do with the blood preasure. This could be due to deposits in the blood of colestrol and fat. Thats why bp and colestrol generally come together. Jupiter signifies fats and colestrol. You will see in his chart that ju is in neecha. > His roga time started in venus dasa which in 6h after rectification. What roga? Because of ju, bp is definitely in picture. Ask him about colestrol also. > By the way chandra signifies blood not moon. Here it means all liquid in the body including blood. > I hope it is clear > Regards > Santhosh > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airteldeepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ > > Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:26:42 -0800 (PST)<ancient_indian_ astrology>Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > >  > > > > > > > Hi Santhosh, > Kindly go through my earlier mail again - > 1.) D-4 Chart is not considered at all, > 2.) D-9 is considered to check the strength of Sun. Anything Strange? > 3.) Is it Strange to go into Shashtamsha Chart (D-6) for diseases? > // can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp // > Mars ruling muscular parts and blood should be checked for BP cases. > Best Regards, > Deepak Sharma            > " santhosh@sudhamayi .com " <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> > ancient_indian_ astrology > Tue, December 1, 2009 10:19:59 PM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear deepak, > > Thats strange going into d6 and d4. Further, can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp. Where did you get it from? > Regards > Santhosh > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airteldeepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ > > Tue, 1 Dec 2009 08:27:53 -0800 (PST)<ancient_indian_ astrology>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > >  > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet Ji, > Without going into Birth time rectification / fixing of Ascendant, which may > require further inputs and study, it can be observed that - > Your BP problem is due to debilitation of Sun in D-9 and Debilitation of Mars in D-6 Chart. Mars being dispositor of current dasha (irrespective of ascendant) also matters here.          Weak Sun is also responsible for Job related problems though there must be other reasons as well.Best Regards, > Deepak Sharma > > gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 > > ancient_indian_ astrology > Tue, December 1, 2009 6:47:41 PM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet, > according to my knowledge it will give the efects of both houses as well as 5thH since it is retro and you yourself are confirming it.Do not also forget as you said it will give lagna/12thH afects which you also mentioned.Anyway since it is a sandhi lagna i feel the birth time need to be checked/rectified. ...... > Love and regards, > gopi. > ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Gopi > > I am getting bad effects as Venus is also retrograde and sincrely think it is bad effects of 6 house as  if venus in 7 then it aspects lagna then I must definitely get good effects. > > Venus Dasa started in 1993 Iit was giving good effects till 2001 after that it has been giving bad effects ,you can say from 1993 to 2001 it gave 7 house effects and since 201 it is giving 6 house bhava effects-is  this possible---- --------- > ------- > > RegardsPuneet Ahuja > > > > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ . wrote: > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ . > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:45 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji, > > Are you really getting bad effects is the crux of the matter.If so only then Bhava chart should be considered.But my personal opinion is both 6 as well as 7H could give bad effects but those bad effects vary and you know why..... > > Love and regards, > > gopi. > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ > . com, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > DEAR GIRISH > > > Thanks for your mailMy details are  Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm  My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart. > > > Kindly give your advise for above. > > > Warm RegardsPuneet Ahuja > > > > > > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon horamag@ wrote: > > > > > > Girish menon horamag@ > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji > > > Can you please give us your chart details > > > Thanks > > > Girish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Dear Puneet, //But if we take Scorpio lagna then my Mercury dasa which was excellent cannot be explained with Scorpio lagna.// Let us consider this. Can you break this period of mercury dasa into 2 and tell me which half was better. Further, when you say excellent, in what terms it was excellent we can then possibly arrive at a satisfactory answer. Where you employed in Govt service? And was it a uniformed service? Regards Santhosh On Behalf Of puneet ahuja Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:49 AM To: Re: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA DEAR Deepakji/Manojji/Santhoshji/Girishji Time has been correctly recorded at the hospital when I was born,have rechecked the same By your views, I think you are suggesting that my lagna is Scorpio and Venus as 6 lord is giiving me bad effects. Sun would become strong as for Scorpio lagna ,it is lord of 10 placed in 5 and RAHU is placed in 10 house in house of Sun that way carrer wouls have been good if it is Scorpio lagna. Yes Sun being neecha in navamsa makes it weak and I have to be very very careful in Sun dasa starting in 2013 from litigation,bad luck and health problems. But if we take Scorpio lagna then my Mercury dasa which was excellent cannot be explained with Scorpio lagna. Kindly give your views for the above Warm Regards Puneet Ahuja --- On Tue, 1/12/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj > wrote: Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj > Re: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Tuesday, 1 December, 2009, 4:51 PM Dear Deepak Ji, Here are my views on it: 6H is 12th from the 7th. 6H is also the house of litigation. For both these reasons it is definitely the house for divorce. Now there is another contreversial rule I learned from one of my teachers. 6H is also the house of " the other one " or the " person one is having an affair with " . I forget the explanation for this, but apparently Parashara mentions this in one of his shlokas. So along with the 2H, 6H also can lead to " divorce due to interference from outside " . Regards, -Manoj deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com Tue, December 1, 2009 1:58:17 PM Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Santosh Ji, Is the Sixth house treated as " House of Divorce " as you mentioned below? May I ask you to throw some light upon this. Thank you. Best Regards, Deepak Sharma " santhosh@sudhamayi .com " <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com Tue, December 1, 2009 8:24:19 PM Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Thats good surmise. That explains very well. Nevertheless, 7th lord is in the house of divorce or marital problems. But being in own navamsha, imparts some strength to the 7th bhava. Regards Santhosh Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel Girish menon <horamag > Tue, 1 Dec 2009 04:59:58 -0800 (PST) <ancient_indian_ astrology> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Santosh Interseting case study about wrong birth time. The time 10:10 is not correct Within 3 minutes 23 seconds his lagna changes to scorpio Now if we calculate the lagna from scorpio as puneet said Negative is due to health after 2002 having BP problems,profession al problems in job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in family health and career. Gives more clarity Dear Puneetji I feel the bhava cakra is not the issue here but the wrong time which I don’t blame you for that Thanks and regards Girish --- On Tue, 12/1/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> wrote: puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA ancient_indian_ astrology Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 4:16 AM Dear Santhosh Negative is due to health after 2002 having BP problems,profession al problems in job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in family health and career. Regards Puneet Ahuja --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> wrote: Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA ancient_indian_ astrology Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:37 PM Dear Puneet, Can you please clarify the negative effect? Is it related to marriage, children or health? Regards Santhosh ancient_indian_ astrology [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of puneet ahuja Tuesday, December 01, 2009 11:27 AM ancient_indian_ astrology Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA DEAR GIRISH Place-Mumbai Regards Puneet Ahuja --- On Mon, 30/11/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> wrote: puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA ancient_indian_ astrology Monday, 30 November, 2009, 8:25 PM DEAR GIRISH Thanks for your mail My details are Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart. Kindly give your advise for above. Warm Regards Puneet Ahuja --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon <horamag > wrote: Girish menon <horamag > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA ancient_indian_ astrology Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM Dear Puneet ji Can you please give us your chart details Thanks Girish The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.87/2536 - Release Date: 12/01/09 02:35:00 The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.89/2539 - Release 12/02/09 01:02:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Dear Santosh,Thanks for giving your further opinion.Moon and Mars - both signify blood (Uttarakalamrita)Sun, Moon, Mars, 4th House & Jupiter should be considered for BP / Heart Problems.As Jupiter governs arteries, Its role is important for BP cases.I missed this in earlier mail - Thanks for raising this point.//BP Definition in this context (taken from www.mayoclinic.com) Blood pressure is determined by the amount of blood your heart pumps and the amount of resistance to blood flow in your arteries. The more blood your heart pumps and the narrower your arteries, the higher your blood pressure //Best Regards,Deepak Sharma"santhosh" <santhosh Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 7:10:57 AMRe: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear deepak,I misstook d4. My mistake and apologies.I beg to differ with you on the signification for mars. Mars signifies bone marrow and not blood.Bone marrow works to produce blood and it has got nothing to do with the blood preasure. This could be due to deposits in the blood of colestrol and fat. Thats why bp and colestrol generally come together. Jupiter signifies fats and colestrol. You will see in his chart that ju is in neecha.His roga time started in venus dasa which in 6h after rectification. What roga? Because of ju, bp is definitely in picture. Ask him about colestrol also.By the way chandra signifies blood not moon. Here it means all liquid in the body including blood.I hope it is clearRegardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ > Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:26:42 -0800 (PST)<ancient_indian_ astrology>Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Hi Santhosh,Kindly go through my earlier mail again -1.) D-4 Chart is not considered at all,2.) D-9 is considered to check the strength of Sun. Anything Strange?3.) Is it Strange to go into Shashtamsha Chart (D-6) for diseases?// can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp //Mars ruling muscular parts and blood should be checked for BP cases.Best Regards,Deepak Sharma "santhosh@sudhamayi .com" <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>ancient_indian_ astrologyTue, December 1, 2009 10:19:59 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear deepak,Thats strange going into d6 and d4. Further, can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp. Where did you get it from?RegardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ > Tue, 1 Dec 2009 08:27:53 -0800 (PST)<ancient_indian_ astrology>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Puneet Ji,Without going into Birth time rectification / fixing of Ascendant, which mayrequire further inputs and study, it can be observed that -Your BP problem is due to debilitation of Sun in D-9 and Debilitation of Mars in D-6 Chart. Mars being dispositor of current dasha (irrespective of ascendant) also matters here. Weak Sun is also responsible for Job related problems though there must be other reasons as well.Best Regards,Deepak Sharmagopalakrishna <gopi_b927 >ancient_indian_ astrologyTue, December 1, 2009 6:47:41 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Puneet,according to my knowledge it will give the efects of both houses as well as 5thH since it is retro and you yourself are confirming it.Do not also forget as you said it will give lagna/12thH afects which you also mentioned.Anyway since it is a sandhi lagna i feel the birth time need to be checked/rectified. ......Love and regards,gopi.ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Gopi> I am getting bad effects as Venus is also retrograde and sincrely think it is bad effects of 6 house as  if venus in 7 then it aspects lagna then I must definitely get good effects.> Venus Dasa started in 1993 Iit was giving good effects till 2001 after that it has been giving bad effects ,you can say from 1993 to 2001 it gave 7 house effects and since 201 it is giving 6 house bhava effects-is  this possible---- --------- ------- > RegardsPuneet Ahuja> > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. . wrote:> > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. .> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> ancient_indian_ astrology> Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:45 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji,> Are you really getting bad effects is the crux of the matter.If so only then Bhava chart should be considered.But my personal opinion is both 6 as well as 7H could give bad effects but those bad effects vary and you know why.....> Love and regards,> gopi.> ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:> >> > DEAR GIRISH> > Thanks for your mailMy details are  Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm  My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart.> > Kindly give your advise for above.> > Warm RegardsPuneet Ahuja > > > > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon horamag@ wrote:> > > > Girish menon horamag@> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji> > Can you please give us your chart details> > Thanks> > Girish> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Dear PuneethjiMercury dasha was good because of Me is in kendra from scorpio lagna and also it is vargottamaRegardsGirish--- On Tue, 12/1/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003 wrote:puneet ahuja <punsoft2003Re: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 9:27 PM DEAR SANTHOSHJupiter is neecha but it is neechabanga as Saturn lord of sign where it is neecha is with him and lord of exaltation sign where Jupiter exalts,Moon is in kendra from Jupiter and aspects Jupiter.Are you suggesting that Jupiter is still neecha and not neechabhnaga that is why it is giving bad effects in healthRegardsPuneet Ahuja --- On Tue, 1/12/09, santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> wrote:santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRAancient_indian_ astrologyTuesday, 1 December, 2009, 5:40 PM Dear deepak,I misstook d4. My mistake and apologies.I beg to differ with you on the signification for mars. Mars signifies bone marrow and not blood.Bone marrow works to produce blood and it has got nothing to do with the blood preasure. This could be due to deposits in the blood of colestrol and fat. Thats why bp and colestrol generally come together. Jupiter signifies fats and colestrol. You will see in his chart that ju is in neecha.His roga time started in venus dasa which in 6h after rectification. What roga? Because of ju, bp is definitely in picture. Ask him about colestrol also.By the way chandra signifies blood not moon. Here it means all liquid in the body including blood.I hope it is clearRegardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ > Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:26:42 -0800 (PST)<ancient_indian_ astrology>Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Hi Santhosh,Kindly go through my earlier mail again -1.) D-4 Chart is not considered at all,2.) D-9 is considered to check the strength of Sun. Anything Strange?3.) Is it Strange to go into Shashtamsha Chart (D-6) for diseases?// can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp //Mars ruling muscular parts and blood should be checked for BP cases.Best Regards,Deepak Sharma "santhosh@sudhamayi .com" <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>ancient_indian_ astrologyTue, December 1, 2009 10:19:59 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear deepak,Thats strange going into d6 and d4. Further, can you please elucidate on the connection between mars and bp. Where did you get it from?RegardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ > Tue, 1 Dec 2009 08:27:53 -0800 (PST)<ancient_indian_ astrology>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Puneet Ji,Without going into Birth time rectification / fixing of Ascendant, which mayrequire further inputs and study, it can be observed that -Your BP problem is due to debilitation of Sun in D-9 and Debilitation of Mars in D-6 Chart. Mars being dispositor of current dasha (irrespective of ascendant) also matters here. Weak Sun is also responsible for Job related problems though there must be other reasons as well.Best Regards,Deepak Sharmagopalakrishna <gopi_b927 >ancient_indian_ astrologyTue, December 1, 2009 6:47:41 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Puneet,according to my knowledge it will give the efects of both houses as well as 5thH since it is retro and you yourself are confirming it.Do not also forget as you said it will give lagna/12thH afects which you also mentioned.Anyway since it is a sandhi lagna i feel the birth time need to be checked/rectified. ......Love and regards,gopi.ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Gopi> I am getting bad effects as Venus is also retrograde and sincrely think it is bad effects of 6 house as  if venus in 7 then it aspects lagna then I must definitely get good effects.> Venus Dasa started in 1993 Iit was giving good effects till 2001 after that it has been giving bad effects ,you can say from 1993 to 2001 it gave 7 house effects and since 201 it is giving 6 house bhava effects-is  this possible---- --------- ------- > RegardsPuneet Ahuja> > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. . wrote:> > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. .> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> ancient_indian_ astrology> Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:45 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji,> Are you really getting bad effects is the crux of the matter.If so only then Bhava chart should be considered.But my personal opinion is both 6 as well as 7H could give bad effects but those bad effects vary and you know why.....> Love and regards,> gopi.> ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:> >> > DEAR GIRISH> > Thanks for your mailMy details are  Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm  My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart.> > Kindly give your advise for above.> > Warm RegardsPuneet Ahuja > > > > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon horamag@ wrote:> > > > Girish menon horamag@> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji> > Can you please give us your chart details> > Thanks> > Girish> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Dear Santosh,I wonder my two liner reply brings so much of your kind attention.I think you should go through the mail again based on which you've raised a few doubts and written some good basics of astrology.// In your analsyis you straight away went to d6 and d9 for arriving at a conclusion //Who told you - I went straight to D-6 and D-9 without looking at the degrees of planets,their aspects / conjunctions etc in Natal Chart? Did I mention this anywhere?In my two liner, I also justified that I looked into current period of native also.This is just to bring to your kind notice.// But if you cannot derive something from a rashi chart yet you see that in a vargaposition it cannot be a conclusive prediction //I did not make any prediction in my mail. I did not even claim to analyze somethingcompletely as I wrote // there must be other reasons as well //However, based on the general signications of Sun (Heart, Employment) and Mars(Muscular system & blood) whose degrees / aspects were known based on the giventime, I just gave couple of contibutory factors for employment and BP problem ofthe native. And I doubt if general signication of planets and current period also get changeddrastically with a few minutes of time difference in Natal Chart.I also mentioned in the mail // there must be other reasons as well//and // ...which may require further inputs and study //Best Regards,Deepak SharmaSanthosh <santhosh Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 12:10:05 PMRE: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Deepak, Allow me to say something too on this which might be further clarified by manojji. In your analsyis you straight away went to d6 and d9 for arriving at a conclusion. Please remember that varga positions of planets are mainly used for assessing the strength of the planet in the rashi chart and it is used for cross verification of points noticed in the rashi chart. Your primary analysis should be based on the rashi chart and then you can substantiate it from the varga position. But if you cannot derive something from a rashi chart yet you see that in a varga position it cannot be a conclusive prediction. You will notice that all along I use the phrase varga position and not varga chart because in traditional astrology there is no such thing as varga chart. It is available only in computer software. It is the position of the planet in the main rashi chart when the rashi is sub-divided into different parts which pin points an issue noticed in the rashi chart. Now coming to your question in the email below. You are right just because 6th house is weak you cannot say divorce. It has to be cross verified with 7th house and its lord, varga positions of 7th lord, planets in 7th house, attributes of karaka for marriage, venus etc to arrive at a conclusion because 6th house signifies many other things also, derived or primary. Regards Santhosh ancient_indian_ astrology [ancient_ indian_astrology ] On Behalf Of deepak sharma Wednesday, December 02, 2009 10:56 AM To: ancient_indian_ astrology Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Manoj Ji, Thank you so much for your valued opinion and I do agree with the rules you mentioned. I'm giving a hypothetical example to share my views on the subject - If sixth house of a native is extremely weak /afflicted. Say its lord is weak on multiple accounts like combustion, debilitation, debilitation in D-9 & other D- Charts, afflictions etc Can we predict divorce or family / marriage disputes from this? My opinion - Despite extreme afflictions or weaknesses to sixth house, the native may not suffer at all regarding the family matters / divorce. Native may have a happy married life. Why - Because "Divorce" is not the "Primary signification" of Sixth house. This is a "Derived signification" based on some rules. The Primary signfication is the "dispute / litigation" (of course many others) When this "dispute / litigation" has some association with the houses / significators of marriage / family, a native is likely to face family or marital disputes resulting in divorce. If such an extremely weak and afflicted 6th house has no association with the houses / significators of marriage / family, it can not give divorce or disputes among family members. (Please note - "Derived Significations" or "Primary Significations" of 6th house may not be mentioned in any of the books. I've used the terms to convey my message.) Best Regards, Deepak Sharma Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > ancient_indian_ astrology Wed, December 2, 2009 6:21:18 AM Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Deepak Ji, Here are my views on it: 6H is 12th from the 7th. 6H is also the house of litigation. For both these reasons it is definitely the house for divorce. Now there is another contreversial rule I learned from one of my teachers. 6H is also the house of "the other one" or the "person one is having an affair with". I forget the explanation for this, but apparently Parashara mentions this in one of his shlokas. So along with the 2H, 6H also can lead to "divorce due to interference from outside". Regards, -Manoj deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com Tue, December 1, 2009 1:58:17 PM Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Santosh Ji, Is the Sixth house treated as "House of Divorce" as you mentioned below? May I ask you to throw some light upon this. Thank you. Best Regards, Deepak Sharma "santhosh@sudhamayi .com" <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com Tue, December 1, 2009 8:24:19 PM Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Thats good surmise. That explains very well. Nevertheless, 7th lord is in the house of divorce or marital problems. But being in own navamsha, imparts some strength to the 7th bhava. Regards Santhosh Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel Girish menon <horamag > Tue, 1 Dec 2009 04:59:58 -0800 (PST) <ancient_indian_ astrology> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Santosh Interseting case study about wrong birth time. The time 10:10 is not correct Within 3 minutes 23 seconds his lagna changes to scorpio Now if we calculate the lagna from scorpio as puneet said Negative is due to health after 2002 having BP problems,profession al problems in job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in family health and career. Gives more clarity Dear Puneetji I feel the bhava cakra is not the issue here but the wrong time which I don’t blame you for that Thanks and regards Girish --- On Tue, 12/1/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> wrote: puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA ancient_indian_ astrology Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 4:16 AM Dear Santhosh Negative is due to health after 2002 having BP problems,profession al problems in job,whatever I am doing I face a problem,in family health and career. Regards Puneet Ahuja --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> wrote: Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA ancient_indian_ astrology Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:37 PM Dear Puneet, Can you please clarify the negative effect? Is it related to marriage, children or health? Regards Santhosh ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of puneet ahuja Tuesday, December 01, 2009 11:27 AM ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA DEAR GIRISH Place-Mumbai Regards Puneet Ahuja --- On Mon, 30/11/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> wrote: puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ grouply.com> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA ancient_indian_ astrology Monday, 30 November, 2009, 8:25 PM DEAR GIRISH Thanks for your mail My details are Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart. Kindly give your advise for above. Warm Regards Puneet Ahuja --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon <horamag > wrote: Girish menon <horamag > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA ancient_indian_ astrology Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM Dear Puneet ji Can you please give us your chart details Thanks Girish The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.87/2536 - Release 12/01/09 02:35:00 The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.89/2539 - Release 12/02/09 01:02:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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