Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Dear Gopalji, So what is the interesting thing about Bhava Chalit that you have stumbled upon? Best wishes Santhosh On Behalf Of gopalakrishna Monday, November 30, 2009 10:53 AM Subject: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Sreenadh ji, thanks a lot for the detailed explanation as usual.I think that's how the research goes on and on.... //So we should better spell his name as " Sripati " .// Like " sreenadh " ha ha.....or not like " sreenadh " ? Sripati must be great since the said chart seems to be working great in the spiritual charts of mahatmas.That's why i raised the topic.Rest later.... Love and regards, gopi. , " sreesog " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Gopi ji, > I agree with Manoj ji. By the way, it is correct to spell his name as " Sripati " , because here " Sri " is not placed as token of respect or salutation, but instead the " Sri " is part of his name itself, and so it should be spelled " Sripati " . Even " Sripathi " may not be right since " th " is spelled similar to the pronounciation of the same in the word " Rath " (Chariot) or " Path " (path). 't' is pronounced as in 'Tal' (lake) or 'Tantric'. So we should better spell his name as " Sripati " . > It 'seems' that Sripati 'introduced'/'invented' many unique systems such as 'Bhava Chalit', 'Gochara-Vedha positions for planets' etc since no reference regarding the same before him is available. Anyway we CANNOT be certain on this as there is always a chance that some ancient reference could pop-up pointing to the fact that these were in place as part of some school of thought before him itself. For example, even though no clear reference is available, some ascribe 'Gochara-Vedha' system to 'Vasishta' - which Vasishtra, what is his period - all controversial. Ascribing this 'invention' to him may or may not be true. But as per our current understanding certainly these system are possibly invented and certainly popularized by Sripati. > It is also true that the ancient Rishi horas such as Skanda, Kousikas, Garga, Sounaka, Yavana (Yavanacharya, spujidwaja, meenaraja), Mihira, Krishnacharya etc DO NOT support these theories. Rest upto you. > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > , Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ wrote: > > > > Dear Gopi Ji, > > > > Bhava Chalit was introduced by Sri Pathi. No other astrologer before him nor any major classic before that time period ever mentioned even a single word about it. So it is clear that Sri Pathi was the founder of this system. > > > > We already had an " animated " discussion on this subject, if you refer to the archives, you can find it. It is a contreversial system and primarily used by North Indian astrologers. But due to more open mindedness in modern day and willingness to research, South Indian astrologers have also started trying it out. > > > > Proof of the pudding is in its eating .... so try it out and see if it works for you. > >  > > Regards, > >  -Manoj > > ________________________________ > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ > > > > Sun, November 29, 2009 9:49:10 AM > > BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > >  > > Dear Ones, > > please let me have what ever information about bhava/chalit chakra.What is its root?Which classic mentioned it?Etc etc... since i found it it very interesting and i stumbled upon something regarding it in my own study/research or whatever. > > Love and regards, > > gopi. > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.87/2535 - Release 11/30/09 01:01:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Yes Sreenadh ji,i know.But your parents are right i believe since ''d'' is more apropriate than 't'.......as per sanskrit alphabet.Love and regards,gopi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Dear Santosh ji,I have stumbled upon some thing spiritual conected to Bhava/chalit charts in quite a few Mahatmas charts as i have mentioned to Sreenadh ji.I am still working on them deeply...Love and regards,gopi.- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Dear SirsKindly clarify if the lagna chnages in BHAVA CHART then predictions would be from lagna chart or bhava chart for Dasa.RegardsPuneet Ahuja--- On Sun, 29/11/09, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 wrote:gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Date: Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 9:11 PM Dear Manoj ji,you are right.Thank you for the info.I feel any system introduced by anybody/any clasic should never be brushed aside simply because it is given to the future generations only after finding it working for themselves.So when yousaid proof of the pudding is in its eating you are right.I will sure check it out......and even if it doesnt work for me i dont blame the system since i have no right....Love and regards,gopi.ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Gopi Ji,> > Bhava Chalit was introduced by Sri Pathi. No other astrologer before him nor any major classic before that time period ever mentioned even a single word about it. So it is clear that Sri Pathi was the founder of this system.> > We already had an "animated" discussion on this subject, if you refer to the archives, you can find it. It is a contreversial system and primarily used by North Indian astrologers. But due to more open mindedness in modern day and willingness to research, South Indian astrologers have also started trying it out.> > Proof of the pudding is in its eating .... so try it out and see if it works for you.>  > Regards,>  -Manoj>  > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. .> ancient_indian_ astrology> Sun, November 29, 2009 9:49:10 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> >  > Dear Ones,> please let me have what ever information about bhava/chalit chakra.What is its root?Which classic mentioned it?Etc etc... since i found it it very interesting and i stumbled upon something regarding it in my own study/research or whatever.> Love and regards,> gopi.> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Dear Puneet ji, Namaste. Can a " Non-Sir " answer your question? Lagna and rashis " do Not " change in bhava chalit, only the planets move to diffent houses depending on their degrees.. eg if lagna is 28 deg aries, then planets placed in 0-13 deg aries will be in 12H, pisces in Bhava chalit chart, Say jupiter is placed in 10 deg aries, it will give effects of being placed in aries sign, but the bhava effects will be that of the 12th house. Aspects are considered from 1st house for general effects. Hope that clarifies your understanding. warmest regards Sheevani , puneet ahuja <punsoft2003 wrote: > > Dear Sirs > > Kindly clarify if the lagna chnages in BHAVA CHART then predictions would be from lagna chart or bhava chart for Dasa. > > Regards > Puneet Ahuja > > --- On Sun, 29/11/09, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 wrote: > > gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 9:11 PM >  > > > > Dear Manoj ji, > you are right.Thank you for the info.I feel any system introduced by anybody/any clasic should never be brushed aside simply because it is given to the future generations only after finding it working for themselves.So when yousaid proof of the pudding is in its eating you are right.I will sure check it out......and even if it doesnt work for me i dont blame the system since i have no right.... > Love and regards, > gopi. > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Gopi Ji, > > > > Bhava Chalit was introduced by Sri Pathi. No other astrologer before him nor any major classic before that time period ever mentioned even a single word about it. So it is clear that Sri Pathi was the founder of this system. > > > > We already had an " animated " discussion on this subject, if you refer to the archives, you can find it. It is a contreversial system and primarily used by North Indian astrologers. But due to more open mindedness in modern day and willingness to research, South Indian astrologers have also started trying it out. > > > > Proof of the pudding is in its eating .... so try it out and see if it works for you. > >  > > Regards, > >  -Manoj > >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ . > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Sun, November 29, 2009 9:49:10 AM > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > >  > > Dear Ones, > > please let me have what ever information about bhava/chalit chakra.What is its root?Which classic mentioned it?Etc etc... since i found it it very interesting and i stumbled upon something regarding it in my own study/research or whatever. > > Love and regards, > > gopi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Dear Non-Sir, Valid doubt on addressing the forum. The best way is to address a person directly and respectfully or alternatively if you wish to address everybody, dear members, dear list, dear forum members, dear friends are appropriate. Your clarification on bhava chalit is crystal clear. But there are deferring views. Some astrologers do not consider it at all. I am in favor of your view. Regards Santhosh On Behalf Of Sheevani Monday, November 30, 2009 5:20 PM Subject: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Puneet ji, Namaste. Can a " Non-Sir " answer your question? Lagna and rashis " do Not " change in bhava chalit, only the planets move to diffent houses depending on their degrees.. eg if lagna is 28 deg aries, then planets placed in 0-13 deg aries will be in 12H, pisces in Bhava chalit chart, Say jupiter is placed in 10 deg aries, it will give effects of being placed in aries sign, but the bhava effects will be that of the 12th house. Aspects are considered from 1st house for general effects. Hope that clarifies your understanding. warmest regards Sheevani , puneet ahuja <punsoft2003 wrote: > > Dear Sirs > > Kindly clarify if the lagna chnages in BHAVA CHART then predictions would be from lagna chart or bhava chart for Dasa. > > Regards > Puneet Ahuja > > --- On Sun, 29/11/09, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 wrote: > > gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 9:11 PM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji, > you are right.Thank you for the info.I feel any system introduced by anybody/any clasic should never be brushed aside simply because it is given to the future generations only after finding it working for themselves.So when yousaid proof of the pudding is in its eating you are right.I will sure check it out......and even if it doesnt work for me i dont blame the system since i have no right.... > Love and regards, > gopi. > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Gopi Ji, > > > > Bhava Chalit was introduced by Sri Pathi. No other astrologer before him nor any major classic before that time period ever mentioned even a single word about it. So it is clear that Sri Pathi was the founder of this system. > > > > We already had an " animated " discussion on this subject, if you refer to the archives, you can find it. It is a contreversial system and primarily used by North Indian astrologers. But due to more open mindedness in modern day and willingness to research, South Indian astrologers have also started trying it out. > > > > Proof of the pudding is in its eating ..... so try it out and see if it works for you. > >  > > Regards, > >  -Manoj > >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ . > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Sun, November 29, 2009 9:49:10 AM > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > >  > > Dear Ones, > > please let me have what ever information about bhava/chalit chakra.What is its root?Which classic mentioned it?Etc etc... since i found it it very interesting and i stumbled upon something regarding it in my own study/research or whatever. > > Love and regards, > > gopi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.87/2535 - Release 11/30/09 01:01:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Dear Santosh ji, If you are inclined, then you may also go through the example wherein I replied today to a member explaining why he got a marriage and a child - explained through the Bhava Chalita Chart, which otherwise is not understood through the commonly understood ways, but crystal clear through the Bhava Chalit system. regards, Bhaskar. , " Santhosh " <santhosh wrote: > > Dear Non-Sir, > > > > Valid doubt on addressing the forum. The best way is to address a person > directly and respectfully or alternatively if you wish to address everybody, > dear members, dear list, dear forum members, dear friends are appropriate. > > > > Your clarification on bhava chalit is crystal clear. But there are deferring > views. Some astrologers do not consider it at all. I am in favor of your > view. > > > > Regards > > Santhosh > > > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Sheevani > Monday, November 30, 2009 5:20 PM > > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji, > > Namaste. > > Can a " Non-Sir " answer your question? > > Lagna and rashis " do Not " change in bhava chalit, only the planets move to > diffent houses depending on their degrees.. > > eg if lagna is 28 deg aries, then planets placed in 0-13 deg aries will be > in 12H, pisces in Bhava chalit chart, > > Say jupiter is placed in 10 deg aries, it will give effects of being placed > in aries sign, but the bhava effects will be that of the 12th house. > > Aspects are considered from 1st house for general effects. > > Hope that clarifies your understanding. > > warmest regards > Sheevani > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology , puneet ahuja punsoft2003@ wrote: > > > > Dear Sirs > > > > Kindly clarify if the lagna chnages in BHAVA CHART then predictions > would be from lagna chart or bhava chart for Dasa. > > > > Regards > > Puneet Ahuja > > > > --- On Sun, 29/11/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ wrote: > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ > > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology > > Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 9:11 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji, > > you are right.Thank you for the info.I feel any system introduced by > anybody/any clasic should never be brushed aside simply because it is given > to the future generations only after finding it working for themselves.So > when yousaid proof of the pudding is in its eating you are right.I will sure > check it out......and even if it doesnt work for me i dont blame the system > since i have no right.... > > Love and regards, > > gopi. > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Gopi Ji, > > > > > > Bhava Chalit was introduced by Sri Pathi. No other astrologer before > him nor any major classic before that time period ever mentioned even a > single word about it. So it is clear that Sri Pathi was the founder of > this system. > > > > > > We already had an " animated " discussion on this subject, if you refer to > the archives, you can find it. It is a contreversial system and primarily > used by North Indian astrologers. But due to more open mindedness in modern > day and willingness to research, South Indian astrologers have also > started trying it out. > > > > > > Proof of the pudding is in its eating .... so try it out and > see if it works for you. > > >  > > > Regards, > > >  -Manoj > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ . > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Sun, November 29, 2009 9:49:10 AM > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > > > >  > > > Dear Ones, > > > please let me have what ever information about bhava/chalit chakra.What > is its root?Which classic mentioned it?Etc etc... since i found it it very > interesting and i stumbled upon something regarding it in my own > study/research or whatever. > > > Love and regards, > > > gopi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > http://in.. <http://in./> com/ > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.87/2535 - Release Date: 11/30/09 > 01:01:00 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Dear Santosh ji, Namaste. Thank you for your imput. I just happen to notice that nobody has responded to Puneetji's request for clarification, and as it was a simple matter, I thought I would respond. When I re-read the mail, a thought did cross my mind,, " Am I excluded due to my gender? " I just put that to lack of thought and responded anyway. Hence the " Non-Sir " comment. warmest regards Sheevani , " Santhosh " <santhosh wrote: > > Dear Non-Sir, > > > > Valid doubt on addressing the forum. The best way is to address a person > directly and respectfully or alternatively if you wish to address everybody, > dear members, dear list, dear forum members, dear friends are appropriate. > > > > Your clarification on bhava chalit is crystal clear. But there are deferring > views. Some astrologers do not consider it at all. I am in favor of your > view. > > > > Regards > > Santhosh > > > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Sheevani > Monday, November 30, 2009 5:20 PM > > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji, > > Namaste. > > Can a " Non-Sir " answer your question? > > Lagna and rashis " do Not " change in bhava chalit, only the planets move to > diffent houses depending on their degrees.. > > eg if lagna is 28 deg aries, then planets placed in 0-13 deg aries will be > in 12H, pisces in Bhava chalit chart, > > Say jupiter is placed in 10 deg aries, it will give effects of being placed > in aries sign, but the bhava effects will be that of the 12th house. > > Aspects are considered from 1st house for general effects. > > Hope that clarifies your understanding. > > warmest regards > Sheevani > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology , puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sirs > > > > Kindly clarify if the lagna chnages in BHAVA CHART then predictions > would be from lagna chart or bhava chart for Dasa. > > > > Regards > > Puneet Ahuja > > > > --- On Sun, 29/11/09, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927@> wrote: > > > > gopalakrishna <gopi_b927@> > > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology > > Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 9:11 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji, > > you are right.Thank you for the info.I feel any system introduced by > anybody/any clasic should never be brushed aside simply because it is given > to the future generations only after finding it working for themselves.So > when yousaid proof of the pudding is in its eating you are right.I will sure > check it out......and even if it doesnt work for me i dont blame the system > since i have no right.... > > Love and regards, > > gopi. > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Gopi Ji, > > > > > > Bhava Chalit was introduced by Sri Pathi. No other astrologer before > him nor any major classic before that time period ever mentioned even a > single word about it. So it is clear that Sri Pathi was the founder of > this system. > > > > > > We already had an " animated " discussion on this subject, if you refer to > the archives, you can find it. It is a contreversial system and primarily > used by North Indian astrologers. But due to more open mindedness in modern > day and willingness to research, South Indian astrologers have also > started trying it out. > > > > > > Proof of the pudding is in its eating .... so try it out and > see if it works for you. > > >  > > > Regards, > > >  -Manoj > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ . > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Sun, November 29, 2009 9:49:10 AM > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > > > >  > > > Dear Ones, > > > please let me have what ever information about bhava/chalit chakra.What > is its root?Which classic mentioned it?Etc etc... since i found it it very > interesting and i stumbled upon something regarding it in my own > study/research or whatever. > > > Love and regards, > > > gopi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > http://in.. <http://in./> com/ > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.87/2535 - Release 11/30/09 > 01:01:00 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Namaste sheevaniji,When you raised the issue of gender a thought came to me....Is there any classic in astrology written by by someone of the feminine gender? It would be interestiing to know their point of view.RegardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel "Sheevani" <sheevani147Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:38:03 -0000 Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Dear Santosh ji,Namaste.Thank you for your imput.I just happen to notice that nobody has responded to Puneetji's request for clarification, and as it was a simple matter, I thought I would respond.When I re-read the mail, a thought did cross my mind,, " Am I excluded due to my gender? " I just put that to lack of thought and responded anyway.Hence the " Non-Sir " comment.warmest regardsSheevani , " Santhosh " <santhosh wrote:>> Dear Non-Sir,> > > > Valid doubt on addressing the forum. The best way is to address a person> directly and respectfully or alternatively if you wish to address everybody,> dear members, dear list, dear forum members, dear friends are appropriate.> > > > Your clarification on bhava chalit is crystal clear. But there are deferring> views. Some astrologers do not consider it at all. I am in favor of your> view.> > > > Regards> > Santhosh> > > > > >_____ > > > On Behalf Of Sheevani> Monday, November 30, 2009 5:20 PM> > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> > > > > > Dear Puneet ji,> > Namaste.> > Can a " Non-Sir " answer your question?> > Lagna and rashis " do Not " change in bhava chalit, only the planets move to> diffent houses depending on their degrees..> > eg if lagna is 28 deg aries, then planets placed in 0-13 deg aries will be> in 12H, pisces in Bhava chalit chart, > > Say jupiter is placed in 10 deg aries, it will give effects of being placed> in aries sign, but the bhava effects will be that of the 12th house.> > Aspects are considered from 1st house for general effects.> > Hope that clarifies your understanding.> > warmest regards> Sheevani> > ancient_indian_ <%40>> astrology , puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@> wrote:> >> > Dear Sirs> > > > Kindly clarify if the lagna chnages in BHAVA CHART then predictionsÂ> would be from lagna chart or bhava chart for Dasa.> > > > Regards> > Puneet Ahuja> > > > --- On Sun, 29/11/09, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927@> wrote:> > > > gopalakrishna <gopi_b927@>> > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> > ancient_indian_ <%40>> astrology > > Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 9:11 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji,> > you are right.Thank you for the info.I feel any system introduced by> anybody/any clasic should never be brushed aside simply because it is given> to the future generations only after finding it working for themselves.So> when yousaid proof of the pudding is in its eating you are right.I will sure> check it out......and even if it doesnt work for me i dont blame the system> since i have no right....> > Love and regards,> > gopi.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran> <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Gopi Ji,> > > > > > Bhava Chalit was introduced by Sri Pathi. No other astrologer before> him nor any major classic before that time period ever mentioned even a> single word about it. So it is clear that Sri Pathi was the founder of> this system.> > > > > > We already had an " animated " discussion on this subject, if you refer to> the archives, you can find it. It is a contreversial system and primarily> used by North Indian astrologers. But due to more open mindedness in modern> day and willingness to research, South Indian astrologers have alsoÂÂ> started trying it out.> > > > > > Proof of the pudding is in its eating .... so try it out and> see if it works for you.> > >  > > > Regards,> > >  -Manoj> > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________> > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ .> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Sun, November 29, 2009 9:49:10 AM> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> > > > > >  > > > Dear Ones,> > > please let me have what ever information about bhava/chalit chakra.What> is its root?Which classic mentioned it?Etc etc... since i found it it very> interesting and i stumbled upon something regarding it in my own> study/research or whatever.> > > Love and regards,> > > gopi.> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.> http://in.. <http://in./> com/> >> > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.87/2535 - Release 11/30/09> 01:01:00> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Maadam Sheevani ji; It is a matter of protocol; a lady in superior position is always addressed as Sir, Chairperson instead of Chairlady, Your lordship if in judicial chair. there is no bid deal like gender bias if someone uses Sir to addresses members who he thinks are more mature in knowledge or experience. Regards. Kulbir , " Sheevani " <sheevani147 wrote: > > Dear Santosh ji, > > Namaste. > > Thank you for your imput. > > I just happen to notice that nobody has responded to Puneetji's request for clarification, and as it was a simple matter, I thought I would respond. > > When I re-read the mail, a thought did cross my mind,, " Am I excluded due to my gender? " I just put that to lack of thought and responded anyway. > > Hence the " Non-Sir " comment. > > warmest regards > Sheevani > > > > , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > Dear Non-Sir, > > > > > > > > Valid doubt on addressing the forum. The best way is to address a person > > directly and respectfully or alternatively if you wish to address everybody, > > dear members, dear list, dear forum members, dear friends are appropriate. > > > > > > > > Your clarification on bhava chalit is crystal clear. But there are deferring > > views. Some astrologers do not consider it at all. I am in favor of your > > view. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > On Behalf Of Sheevani > > Monday, November 30, 2009 5:20 PM > > > > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji, > > > > Namaste. > > > > Can a " Non-Sir " answer your question? > > > > Lagna and rashis " do Not " change in bhava chalit, only the planets move to > > diffent houses depending on their degrees.. > > > > eg if lagna is 28 deg aries, then planets placed in 0-13 deg aries will be > > in 12H, pisces in Bhava chalit chart, > > > > Say jupiter is placed in 10 deg aries, it will give effects of being placed > > in aries sign, but the bhava effects will be that of the 12th house. > > > > Aspects are considered from 1st house for general effects. > > > > Hope that clarifies your understanding. > > > > warmest regards > > Sheevani > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > > astrology , puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sirs > > > > > > Kindly clarify if the lagna chnages in BHAVA CHART then predictions > > would be from lagna chart or bhava chart for Dasa. > > > > > > Regards > > > Puneet Ahuja > > > > > > --- On Sun, 29/11/09, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927@> wrote: > > > > > > gopalakrishna <gopi_b927@> > > > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > > astrology > > > Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 9:11 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji, > > > you are right.Thank you for the info.I feel any system introduced by > > anybody/any clasic should never be brushed aside simply because it is given > > to the future generations only after finding it working for themselves.So > > when yousaid proof of the pudding is in its eating you are right.I will sure > > check it out......and even if it doesnt work for me i dont blame the system > > since i have no right.... > > > Love and regards, > > > gopi. > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran > > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Gopi Ji, > > > > > > > > Bhava Chalit was introduced by Sri Pathi. No other astrologer before > > him nor any major classic before that time period ever mentioned even a > > single word about it. So it is clear that Sri Pathi was the founder of > > this system. > > > > > > > > We already had an " animated " discussion on this subject, if you refer to > > the archives, you can find it. It is a contreversial system and primarily > > used by North Indian astrologers. But due to more open mindedness in modern > > day and willingness to research, South Indian astrologers have also > > started trying it out. > > > > > > > > Proof of the pudding is in its eating .... so try it out and > > see if it works for you. > > > >  > > > > Regards, > > > >  -Manoj > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ . > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Sun, November 29, 2009 9:49:10 AM > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > > > > > >  > > > > Dear Ones, > > > > please let me have what ever information about bhava/chalit chakra.What > > is its root?Which classic mentioned it?Etc etc... since i found it it very > > interesting and i stumbled upon something regarding it in my own > > study/research or whatever. > > > > Love and regards, > > > > gopi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > http://in.. <http://in./> com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.87/2535 - Release 11/30/09 > > 01:01:00 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Dear kulbirji,I beg to differ. The word sir is properly addressed to a male member. This is proper grammar. I wouldnt say this if i am not 100 percent sure. Anyway not a huge issue to debate on. RegardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel "kulbir" <kulbirbainsMon, 30 Nov 2009 14:28:45 -0000 Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Maadam Sheevani ji;It is a matter of protocol; a lady in superior position is always addressed as Sir, Chairperson instead of Chairlady, Your lordship if in judicial chair. there is no bid deal like gender bias if someone uses Sir to addresses members who he thinks are more mature in knowledge or experience.Regards.Kulbir , " Sheevani " <sheevani147 wrote:>> Dear Santosh ji,> > Namaste.> > Thank you for your imput.> > I just happen to notice that nobody has responded to Puneetji's request for clarification, and as it was a simple matter, I thought I would respond.> > When I re-read the mail, a thought did cross my mind,, " Am I excluded due to my gender? " I just put that to lack of thought and responded anyway.> > Hence the " Non-Sir " comment.> > warmest regards> Sheevani> > > > , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:> >> > Dear Non-Sir,> > > > > > > > Valid doubt on addressing the forum. The best way is to address a person> > directly and respectfully or alternatively if you wish to address everybody,> > dear members, dear list, dear forum members, dear friends are appropriate.> > > > > > > > Your clarification on bhava chalit is crystal clear. But there are deferring> > views. Some astrologers do not consider it at all. I am in favor of your> > view.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Santhosh> > > > > > > > > > > >_____ > > > > > > On Behalf Of Sheevani> > Monday, November 30, 2009 5:20 PM> > > > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji,> > > > Namaste.> > > > Can a " Non-Sir " answer your question?> > > > Lagna and rashis " do Not " change in bhava chalit, only the planets move to> > diffent houses depending on their degrees..> > > > eg if lagna is 28 deg aries, then planets placed in 0-13 deg aries will be> > in 12H, pisces in Bhava chalit chart, > > > > Say jupiter is placed in 10 deg aries, it will give effects of being placed> > in aries sign, but the bhava effects will be that of the 12th house.> > > > Aspects are considered from 1st house for general effects.> > > > Hope that clarifies your understanding.> > > > warmest regards> > Sheevani> > > > ancient_indian_ <%40>> > astrology , puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sirs> > > > > > Kindly clarify if the lagna chnages in BHAVA CHART then predictionsÂ> > would be from lagna chart or bhava chart for Dasa.> > > > > > Regards> > > Puneet Ahuja> > > > > > --- On Sun, 29/11/09, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927@> wrote:> > > > > > gopalakrishna <gopi_b927@>> > > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> > > ancient_indian_ <%40>> > astrology > > > Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 9:11 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji,> > > you are right.Thank you for the info.I feel any system introduced by> > anybody/any clasic should never be brushed aside simply because it is given> > to the future generations only after finding it working for themselves.So> > when yousaid proof of the pudding is in its eating you are right.I will sure> > check it out......and even if it doesnt work for me i dont blame the system> > since i have no right....> > > Love and regards,> > > gopi.> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran> > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Gopi Ji,> > > > > > > > Bhava Chalit was introduced by Sri Pathi. No other astrologer before> > him nor any major classic before that time period ever mentioned even a> > single word about it. So it is clear that Sri Pathi was the founder of> > this system.> > > > > > > > We already had an " animated " discussion on this subject, if you refer to> > the archives, you can find it. It is a contreversial system and primarily> > used by North Indian astrologers. But due to more open mindedness in modern> > day and willingness to research, South Indian astrologers have alsoÂÂ> > started trying it out.> > > > > > > > Proof of the pudding is in its eating .... so try it out and> > see if it works for you.> > > >  > > > > Regards,> > > >  -Manoj> > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________> > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ .> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Sun, November 29, 2009 9:49:10 AM> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> > > > > > > >  > > > > Dear Ones,> > > > please let me have what ever information about bhava/chalit chakra.What> > is its root?Which classic mentioned it?Etc etc... since i found it it very> > interesting and i stumbled upon something regarding it in my own> > study/research or whatever.> > > > Love and regards,> > > > gopi.> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.> > http://in.. <http://in./> com/> > >> > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.87/2535 - Release 11/30/09> > 01:01:00> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Santhosh ji; i admit you are right, in the lighter vein, lawyers address judges as My Lord, if the judge is a lady, addressing her as My Lady looks odd. i was talking of such prevalent norms. Regards Kulbir , santhosh wrote: > > Dear kulbirji, > I beg to differ. The word sir is properly addressed to a male member. This is proper grammar. I wouldnt say this if i am not 100 percent sure. > Anyway not a huge issue to debate on. > Regards > Santhosh > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > " kulbir " <kulbirbains > Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:28:45 > > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > Maadam Sheevani ji; > > It is a matter of protocol; a lady in superior position is always addressed as Sir, Chairperson instead of Chairlady, Your lordship if in judicial chair. there is no bid deal like gender bias if someone uses Sir to addresses members who he thinks are more mature in knowledge or experience. > > Regards. > Kulbir > > > , " Sheevani " <sheevani147@> wrote: > > > > Dear Santosh ji, > > > > Namaste. > > > > Thank you for your imput. > > > > I just happen to notice that nobody has responded to Puneetji's request for clarification, and as it was a simple matter, I thought I would respond. > > > > When I re-read the mail, a thought did cross my mind,, " Am I excluded due to my gender? " I just put that to lack of thought and responded anyway. > > > > Hence the " Non-Sir " comment. > > > > warmest regards > > Sheevani > > > > > > > > , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Non-Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > Valid doubt on addressing the forum. The best way is to address a person > > > directly and respectfully or alternatively if you wish to address everybody, > > > dear members, dear list, dear forum members, dear friends are appropriate. > > > > > > > > > > > > Your clarification on bhava chalit is crystal clear. But there are deferring > > > views. Some astrologers do not consider it at all. I am in favor of your > > > view. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_____ > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Sheevani > > > Monday, November 30, 2009 5:20 PM > > > > > > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji, > > > > > > Namaste. > > > > > > Can a " Non-Sir " answer your question? > > > > > > Lagna and rashis " do Not " change in bhava chalit, only the planets move to > > > diffent houses depending on their degrees.. > > > > > > eg if lagna is 28 deg aries, then planets placed in 0-13 deg aries will be > > > in 12H, pisces in Bhava chalit chart, > > > > > > Say jupiter is placed in 10 deg aries, it will give effects of being placed > > > in aries sign, but the bhava effects will be that of the 12th house. > > > > > > Aspects are considered from 1st house for general effects. > > > > > > Hope that clarifies your understanding. > > > > > > warmest regards > > > Sheevani > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > > > astrology , puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs > > > > > > > > Kindly clarify if the lagna chnages in BHAVA CHART then predictions > > > would be from lagna chart or bhava chart for Dasa. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Puneet Ahuja > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 29/11/09, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927@> wrote: > > > > > > > > gopalakrishna <gopi_b927@> > > > > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > > > astrology > > > > Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 9:11 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji, > > > > you are right.Thank you for the info.I feel any system introduced by > > > anybody/any clasic should never be brushed aside simply because it is given > > > to the future generations only after finding it working for themselves.So > > > when yousaid proof of the pudding is in its eating you are right.I will sure > > > check it out......and even if it doesnt work for me i dont blame the system > > > since i have no right.... > > > > Love and regards, > > > > gopi. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran > > > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gopi Ji, > > > > > > > > > > Bhava Chalit was introduced by Sri Pathi. No other astrologer before > > > him nor any major classic before that time period ever mentioned even a > > > single word about it. So it is clear that Sri Pathi was the founder of > > > this system. > > > > > > > > > > We already had an " animated " discussion on this subject, if you refer to > > > the archives, you can find it. It is a contreversial system and primarily > > > used by North Indian astrologers. But due to more open mindedness in modern > > > day and willingness to research, South Indian astrologers have also > > > started trying it out. > > > > > > > > > > Proof of the pudding is in its eating .... so try it out and > > > see if it works for you. > > > > >  > > > > > Regards, > > > > >  -Manoj > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ . > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > Sun, November 29, 2009 9:49:10 AM > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > Dear Ones, > > > > > please let me have what ever information about bhava/chalit chakra.What > > > is its root?Which classic mentioned it?Etc etc... since i found it it very > > > interesting and i stumbled upon something regarding it in my own > > > study/research or whatever. > > > > > Love and regards, > > > > > gopi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > http://in.. <http://in./> com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.87/2535 - Release 11/30/09 > > > 01:01:00 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Dear Sheevani ji, 1) I had understood when you posted the first mail as to why you were talking about " Non Sir " . 2) since the query was addressed to a respected member of the forum, I did not respond , but it was registered as soon as it came aboard. Love n regards, bhaskar. , " Sheevani " <sheevani147 wrote: > > Dear Santosh ji, > > Namaste. > > Thank you for your imput. > > I just happen to notice that nobody has responded to Puneetji's request for clarification, and as it was a simple matter, I thought I would respond. > > When I re-read the mail, a thought did cross my mind,, " Am I excluded due to my gender? " I just put that to lack of thought and responded anyway. > > Hence the " Non-Sir " comment. > > warmest regards > Sheevani > > > > , " Santhosh " santhosh@ wrote: > > > > Dear Non-Sir, > > > > > > > > Valid doubt on addressing the forum. The best way is to address a person > > directly and respectfully or alternatively if you wish to address everybody, > > dear members, dear list, dear forum members, dear friends are appropriate. > > > > > > > > Your clarification on bhava chalit is crystal clear. But there are deferring > > views. Some astrologers do not consider it at all. I am in favor of your > > view. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > On Behalf Of Sheevani > > Monday, November 30, 2009 5:20 PM > > > > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji, > > > > Namaste. > > > > Can a " Non-Sir " answer your question? > > > > Lagna and rashis " do Not " change in bhava chalit, only the planets move to > > diffent houses depending on their degrees.. > > > > eg if lagna is 28 deg aries, then planets placed in 0-13 deg aries will be > > in 12H, pisces in Bhava chalit chart, > > > > Say jupiter is placed in 10 deg aries, it will give effects of being placed > > in aries sign, but the bhava effects will be that of the 12th house. > > > > Aspects are considered from 1st house for general effects. > > > > Hope that clarifies your understanding. > > > > warmest regards > > Sheevani > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > > astrology , puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sirs > > > > > > Kindly clarify if the lagna chnages in BHAVA CHART then predictions > > would be from lagna chart or bhava chart for Dasa. > > > > > > Regards > > > Puneet Ahuja > > > > > > --- On Sun, 29/11/09, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927@> wrote: > > > > > > gopalakrishna <gopi_b927@> > > > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > > astrology > > > Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 9:11 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji, > > > you are right.Thank you for the info.I feel any system introduced by > > anybody/any clasic should never be brushed aside simply because it is given > > to the future generations only after finding it working for themselves.So > > when yousaid proof of the pudding is in its eating you are right.I will sure > > check it out......and even if it doesnt work for me i dont blame the system > > since i have no right.... > > > Love and regards, > > > gopi. > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran > > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Gopi Ji, > > > > > > > > Bhava Chalit was introduced by Sri Pathi. No other astrologer before > > him nor any major classic before that time period ever mentioned even a > > single word about it. So it is clear that Sri Pathi was the founder of > > this system. > > > > > > > > We already had an " animated " discussion on this subject, if you refer to > > the archives, you can find it. It is a contreversial system and primarily > > used by North Indian astrologers. But due to more open mindedness in modern > > day and willingness to research, South Indian astrologers have also > > started trying it out. > > > > > > > > Proof of the pudding is in its eating .... so try it out and > > see if it works for you. > > > >  > > > > Regards, > > > >  -Manoj > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ . > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Sun, November 29, 2009 9:49:10 AM > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > > > > > >  > > > > Dear Ones, > > > > please let me have what ever information about bhava/chalit chakra.What > > is its root?Which classic mentioned it?Etc etc... since i found it it very > > interesting and i stumbled upon something regarding it in my own > > study/research or whatever. > > > > Love and regards, > > > > gopi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > http://in.. <http://in./> com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.87/2535 - Release Date: 11/30/09 > > 01:01:00 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Agreed kulbirji, Thats true for my lord. But for 'sir' the same rule is not applicable. Thats the problem with this silly language. History has ensured that we live with this language which is idiocentric in many ways.RegardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel "kulbir" <kulbirbains Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:43:46 -0000 Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Santhosh ji; i admit you are right, in the lighter vein, lawyers address judges as My Lord, if the judge is a lady, addressing her as My Lady looks odd. i was talking of such prevalent norms. Regards Kulbir , santhosh wrote: > > Dear kulbirji, > I beg to differ. The word sir is properly addressed to a male member. This is proper grammar. I wouldnt say this if i am not 100 percent sure. > Anyway not a huge issue to debate on. > Regards > Santhosh > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > " kulbir " <kulbirbains > Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:28:45 > > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > Maadam Sheevani ji; > > It is a matter of protocol; a lady in superior position is always addressed as Sir, Chairperson instead of Chairlady, Your lordship if in judicial chair. there is no bid deal like gender bias if someone uses Sir to addresses members who he thinks are more mature in knowledge or experience. > > Regards. > Kulbir > > > , " Sheevani " <sheevani147@> wrote: > > > > Dear Santosh ji, > > > > Namaste. > > > > Thank you for your imput. > > > > I just happen to notice that nobody has responded to Puneetji's request for clarification, and as it was a simple matter, I thought I would respond. > > > > When I re-read the mail, a thought did cross my mind,, " Am I excluded due to my gender? " I just put that to lack of thought and responded anyway. > > > > Hence the " Non-Sir " comment. > > > > warmest regards > > Sheevani > > > > > > > > , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Non-Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > Valid doubt on addressing the forum. The best way is to address a person > > > directly and respectfully or alternatively if you wish to address everybody, > > > dear members, dear list, dear forum members, dear friends are appropriate. > > > > > > > > > > > > Your clarification on bhava chalit is crystal clear. But there are deferring > > > views. Some astrologers do not consider it at all. I am in favor of your > > > view. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_____ > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Sheevani > > > Monday, November 30, 2009 5:20 PM > > > > > > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji, > > > > > > Namaste. > > > > > > Can a " Non-Sir " answer your question? > > > > > > Lagna and rashis " do Not " change in bhava chalit, only the planets move to > > > diffent houses depending on their degrees.. > > > > > > eg if lagna is 28 deg aries, then planets placed in 0-13 deg aries will be > > > in 12H, pisces in Bhava chalit chart, > > > > > > Say jupiter is placed in 10 deg aries, it will give effects of being placed > > > in aries sign, but the bhava effects will be that of the 12th house. > > > > > > Aspects are considered from 1st house for general effects. > > > > > > Hope that clarifies your understanding. > > > > > > warmest regards > > > Sheevani > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > > > astrology , puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs > > > > > > > > Kindly clarify if the lagna chnages in BHAVA CHART then predictions > > > would be from lagna chart or bhava chart for Dasa. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Puneet Ahuja > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 29/11/09, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927@> wrote: > > > > > > > > gopalakrishna <gopi_b927@> > > > > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > > > astrology > > > > Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 9:11 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji, > > > > you are right.Thank you for the info.I feel any system introduced by > > > anybody/any clasic should never be brushed aside simply because it is given > > > to the future generations only after finding it working for themselves.So > > > when yousaid proof of the pudding is in its eating you are right.I will sure > > > check it out......and even if it doesnt work for me i dont blame the system > > > since i have no right.... > > > > Love and regards, > > > > gopi. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran > > > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gopi Ji, > > > > > > > > > > Bhava Chalit was introduced by Sri Pathi. No other astrologer before > > > him nor any major classic before that time period ever mentioned even a > > > single word about it. So it is clear that Sri Pathi was the founder of > > > this system. > > > > > > > > > > We already had an " animated " discussion on this subject, if you refer to > > > the archives, you can find it. It is a contreversial system and primarily > > > used by North Indian astrologers. But due to more open mindedness in modern > > > day and willingness to research, South Indian astrologers have also > > > started trying it out. > > > > > > > > > > Proof of the pudding is in its eating .... so try it out and > > > see if it works for you. > > > > >  > > > > > Regards, > > > > >  -Manoj > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ . > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > Sun, November 29, 2009 9:49:10 AM > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > Dear Ones, > > > > > please let me have what ever information about bhava/chalit chakra.What > > > is its root?Which classic mentioned it?Etc etc... since i found it it very > > > interesting and i stumbled upon something regarding it in my own > > > study/research or whatever. > > > > > Love and regards, > > > > > gopi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 " Sir " " Boss " " Sirji " is a term used both for genuine persons befitting these terms as well as rascals. Those who dont pay us payments after goods sold, in time, when we go and sit in their offices to collect our payments we call them also " Sir " . If my son crashes his car and gets caught by an ordinary policemans, i will address him as " Sir " . As soon as he accepts my payment as bribe I will become friendly with him and address him as " Bhai " , and as soon as he tells me " Sahab wapas milna " , I will address him as " Tu " . These forms of addresses all change with the same person itself depending on the circumstances. Bhaskar. , santhosh wrote: > > Agreed kulbirji, > Thats true for my lord. But for 'sir' the same rule is not applicable. Thats the problem with this silly language. History has ensured that we live with this language which is idiocentric in many ways. > Regards > Santhosh > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > " kulbir " kulbirbains > Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:43:46 > > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > Santhosh ji; i admit you are right, in the lighter vein, lawyers address judges as My Lord, if the judge is a lady, addressing her as My Lady looks odd. i was talking of such prevalent norms. > > Regards > Kulbir > > , santhosh@ wrote: > > > > Dear kulbirji, > > I beg to differ. The word sir is properly addressed to a male member. This is proper grammar. I wouldnt say this if i am not 100 percent sure. > > Anyway not a huge issue to debate on. > > Regards > > Santhosh > > > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > > > > " kulbir " kulbirbains@ > > Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:28:45 > > > > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > > Maadam Sheevani ji; > > > > It is a matter of protocol; a lady in superior position is always addressed as Sir, Chairperson instead of Chairlady, Your lordship if in judicial chair. there is no bid deal like gender bias if someone uses Sir to addresses members who he thinks are more mature in knowledge or experience. > > > > Regards. > > Kulbir > > > > > > , " Sheevani " <sheevani147@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji, > > > > > > Namaste. > > > > > > Thank you for your imput. > > > > > > I just happen to notice that nobody has responded to Puneetji's request for clarification, and as it was a simple matter, I thought I would respond. > > > > > > When I re-read the mail, a thought did cross my mind,, " Am I excluded due to my gender? " I just put that to lack of thought and responded anyway. > > > > > > Hence the " Non-Sir " comment. > > > > > > warmest regards > > > Sheevani > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Non-Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Valid doubt on addressing the forum. The best way is to address a person > > > > directly and respectfully or alternatively if you wish to address everybody, > > > > dear members, dear list, dear forum members, dear friends are appropriate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your clarification on bhava chalit is crystal clear. But there are deferring > > > > views. Some astrologers do not consider it at all. I am in favor of your > > > > view. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_____ > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Sheevani > > > > Monday, November 30, 2009 5:20 PM > > > > > > > > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji, > > > > > > > > Namaste. > > > > > > > > Can a " Non-Sir " answer your question? > > > > > > > > Lagna and rashis " do Not " change in bhava chalit, only the planets move to > > > > diffent houses depending on their degrees.. > > > > > > > > eg if lagna is 28 deg aries, then planets placed in 0-13 deg aries will be > > > > in 12H, pisces in Bhava chalit chart, > > > > > > > > Say jupiter is placed in 10 deg aries, it will give effects of being placed > > > > in aries sign, but the bhava effects will be that of the 12th house. > > > > > > > > Aspects are considered from 1st house for general effects. > > > > > > > > Hope that clarifies your understanding. > > > > > > > > warmest regards > > > > Sheevani > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > > > > astrology , puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs > > > > > > > > > > Kindly clarify if the lagna chnages in BHAVA CHART then predictions > > > > would be from lagna chart or bhava chart for Dasa. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Puneet Ahuja > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 29/11/09, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > gopalakrishna <gopi_b927@> > > > > > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > > > > astrology > > > > > Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 9:11 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji, > > > > > you are right.Thank you for the info.I feel any system introduced by > > > > anybody/any clasic should never be brushed aside simply because it is given > > > > to the future generations only after finding it working for themselves.So > > > > when yousaid proof of the pudding is in its eating you are right.I will sure > > > > check it out......and even if it doesnt work for me i dont blame the system > > > > since i have no right.... > > > > > Love and regards, > > > > > gopi. > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran > > > > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gopi Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhava Chalit was introduced by Sri Pathi. No other astrologer before > > > > him nor any major classic before that time period ever mentioned even a > > > > single word about it. So it is clear that Sri Pathi was the founder of > > > > this system. > > > > > > > > > > > > We already had an " animated " discussion on this subject, if you refer to > > > > the archives, you can find it. It is a contreversial system and primarily > > > > used by North Indian astrologers. But due to more open mindedness in modern > > > > day and willingness to research, South Indian astrologers have also > > > > started trying it out. > > > > > > > > > > > > Proof of the pudding is in its eating .... so try it out and > > > > see if it works for you. > > > > > >  > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > >  -Manoj > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ . > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > Sun, November 29, 2009 9:49:10 AM > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > Dear Ones, > > > > > > please let me have what ever information about bhava/chalit chakra.What > > > > is its root?Which classic mentioned it?Etc etc... since i found it it very > > > > interesting and i stumbled upon something regarding it in my own > > > > study/research or whatever. > > > > > > Love and regards, > > > > > > gopi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > > http://in.. <http://in./> com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.87/2535 - Release 11/30/09 > > > > 01:01:00 > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 If the Judge is my good friend, and a beautiful Lady, inside the court I will adress her as " My lord' and inside my cabin i will address her as " Raani, or " Darling " . So this is the way of Life my dear, when shes near, I call her my dear. Bhaskar. , " kulbir " <kulbirbains wrote: > > Santhosh ji; i admit you are right, in the lighter vein, lawyers address judges as My Lord, if the judge is a lady, addressing her as My Lady looks odd. i was talking of such prevalent norms. > > Regards > Kulbir > > , santhosh@ wrote: > > > > Dear kulbirji, > > I beg to differ. The word sir is properly addressed to a male member. This is proper grammar. I wouldnt say this if i am not 100 percent sure. > > Anyway not a huge issue to debate on. > > Regards > > Santhosh > > > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > > > > " kulbir " kulbirbains@ > > Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:28:45 > > > > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > > Maadam Sheevani ji; > > > > It is a matter of protocol; a lady in superior position is always addressed as Sir, Chairperson instead of Chairlady, Your lordship if in judicial chair. there is no bid deal like gender bias if someone uses Sir to addresses members who he thinks are more mature in knowledge or experience. > > > > Regards. > > Kulbir > > > > > > , " Sheevani " <sheevani147@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji, > > > > > > Namaste. > > > > > > Thank you for your imput. > > > > > > I just happen to notice that nobody has responded to Puneetji's request for clarification, and as it was a simple matter, I thought I would respond. > > > > > > When I re-read the mail, a thought did cross my mind,, " Am I excluded due to my gender? " I just put that to lack of thought and responded anyway. > > > > > > Hence the " Non-Sir " comment. > > > > > > warmest regards > > > Sheevani > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Non-Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Valid doubt on addressing the forum. The best way is to address a person > > > > directly and respectfully or alternatively if you wish to address everybody, > > > > dear members, dear list, dear forum members, dear friends are appropriate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your clarification on bhava chalit is crystal clear. But there are deferring > > > > views. Some astrologers do not consider it at all. I am in favor of your > > > > view. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_____ > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Sheevani > > > > Monday, November 30, 2009 5:20 PM > > > > > > > > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji, > > > > > > > > Namaste. > > > > > > > > Can a " Non-Sir " answer your question? > > > > > > > > Lagna and rashis " do Not " change in bhava chalit, only the planets move to > > > > diffent houses depending on their degrees.. > > > > > > > > eg if lagna is 28 deg aries, then planets placed in 0-13 deg aries will be > > > > in 12H, pisces in Bhava chalit chart, > > > > > > > > Say jupiter is placed in 10 deg aries, it will give effects of being placed > > > > in aries sign, but the bhava effects will be that of the 12th house. > > > > > > > > Aspects are considered from 1st house for general effects. > > > > > > > > Hope that clarifies your understanding. > > > > > > > > warmest regards > > > > Sheevani > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > > > > astrology , puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs > > > > > > > > > > Kindly clarify if the lagna chnages in BHAVA CHART then predictions > > > > would be from lagna chart or bhava chart for Dasa. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Puneet Ahuja > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 29/11/09, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > gopalakrishna <gopi_b927@> > > > > > Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > > > > astrology > > > > > Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 9:11 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji, > > > > > you are right.Thank you for the info.I feel any system introduced by > > > > anybody/any clasic should never be brushed aside simply because it is given > > > > to the future generations only after finding it working for themselves.So > > > > when yousaid proof of the pudding is in its eating you are right.I will sure > > > > check it out......and even if it doesnt work for me i dont blame the system > > > > since i have no right.... > > > > > Love and regards, > > > > > gopi. > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran > > > > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gopi Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhava Chalit was introduced by Sri Pathi. No other astrologer before > > > > him nor any major classic before that time period ever mentioned even a > > > > single word about it. So it is clear that Sri Pathi was the founder of > > > > this system. > > > > > > > > > > > > We already had an " animated " discussion on this subject, if you refer to > > > > the archives, you can find it. It is a contreversial system and primarily > > > > used by North Indian astrologers. But due to more open mindedness in modern > > > > day and willingness to research, South Indian astrologers have also > > > > started trying it out. > > > > > > > > > > > > Proof of the pudding is in its eating .... so try it out and > > > > see if it works for you. > > > > > >  > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > >  -Manoj > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ . > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > Sun, November 29, 2009 9:49:10 AM > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > Dear Ones, > > > > > > please let me have what ever information about bhava/chalit chakra.What > > > > is its root?Which classic mentioned it?Etc etc... since i found it it very > > > > interesting and i stumbled upon something regarding it in my own > > > > study/research or whatever. > > > > > > Love and regards, > > > > > > gopi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > > http://in.. <http://in./> com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.87/2535 - Release 11/30/09 > > > > 01:01:00 > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 DEAR SHIVANIThanks for your mail,say if LAGNA is Libra 29degrees 14 minutes and Venus is in 7 house but in Bhava chart it shifts to 6 house then the MAHADASA of Venus will give evil effects of 6 houseKindly clarify aboveRegardsPuneet Ahuja--- On Mon, 30/11/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Date: Monday, 30 November, 2009, 4:39 AM Dear Santosh ji, If you are inclined, then you may also go through the example wherein I replied today to a member explaining why he got a marriage and a child - explained through the Bhava Chalita Chart, which otherwise is not understood through the commonly understood ways, but crystal clear through the Bhava Chalit system. regards, Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, "Santhosh" <santhosh@.. .> wrote: > > Dear Non-Sir, > > > > Valid doubt on addressing the forum. The best way is to address a person > directly and respectfully or alternatively if you wish to address everybody, > dear members, dear list, dear forum members, dear friends are appropriate. > > > > Your clarification on bhava chalit is crystal clear. But there are deferring > views. Some astrologers do not consider it at all. I am in favor of your > view. > > > > Regards > > Santhosh > > > > > > _____ > > ancient_indian_ astrology > [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Sheevani > Monday, November 30, 2009 5:20 PM > ancient_indian_ astrology > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji, > > Namaste. > > Can a "Non-Sir" answer your question? > > Lagna and rashis "do Not" change in bhava chalit, only the planets move to > diffent houses depending on their degrees.. > > eg if lagna is 28 deg aries, then planets placed in 0-13 deg aries will be > in 12H, pisces in Bhava chalit chart, > > Say jupiter is placed in 10 deg aries, it will give effects of being placed > in aries sign, but the bhava effects will be that of the 12th house. > > Aspects are considered from 1st house for general effects. > > Hope that clarifies your understanding. > > warmest regards > Sheevani > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > astrology@grou ps.com, puneet ahuja punsoft2003@ wrote: > > > > Dear Sirs > > > > Kindly clarify if the lagna chnages in BHAVA CHART then predictions > would be from lagna chart or bhava chart for Dasa. > > > > Regards > > Puneet Ahuja > > > > --- On Sun, 29/11/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ wrote: > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > astrology@grou ps.com > > Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 9:11 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji, > > you are right.Thank you for the info.I feel any system introduced by > anybody/any clasic should never be brushed aside simply because it is given > to the future generations only after finding it working for themselves.So > when yousaid proof of the pudding is in its eating you are right.I will sure > check it out......and even if it doesnt work for me i dont blame the system > since i have no right.... > > Love and regards, > > gopi. > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Gopi Ji, > > > > > > Bhava Chalit was introduced by Sri Pathi. No other astrologer before > him nor any major classic before that time period ever mentioned even a > single word about it. So it is clear that Sri Pathi was the founder of > this system. > > > > > > We already had an "animated" discussion on this subject, if you refer to > the archives, you can find it. It is a contreversial system and primarily > used by North Indian astrologers. But due to more open mindedness in modern > day and willingness to research, South Indian astrologers have also > started trying it out. > > > > > > Proof of the pudding is in its eating .... so try it out and > see if it works for you. > > >  > > > Regards, > > >  -Manoj > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ . > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Sun, November 29, 2009 9:49:10 AM > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > > > >  > > > Dear Ones, > > > please let me have what ever information about bhava/chalit chakra.What > is its root?Which classic mentioned it?Etc etc... since i found it it very > interesting and i stumbled upon something regarding it in my own > study/research or whatever. > > > Love and regards, > > > gopi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > http://in.. <http://in.. com/> com/ > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.87/2535 - Release Date: 11/30/09 > 01:01:00 > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Dear Puneet jiCan you please give us your chart detailsThanks Girish--- On Mon, 11/30/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003 wrote:puneet ahuja <punsoft2003Re: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 9:34 AM DEAR SHIVANIThanks for your mail,say if LAGNA is Libra 29degrees 14 minutes and Venus is in 7 house but in Bhava chart it shifts to 6 house then the MAHADASA of Venus will give evil effects of 6 houseKindly clarify aboveRegardsPuneet Ahuja--- On Mon, 30/11/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRAancient_indian_ astrologyMonday, 30 November, 2009, 4:39 AM Dear Santosh ji, If you are inclined, then you may also go through the example wherein I replied today to a member explaining why he got a marriage and a child - explained through the Bhava Chalita Chart, which otherwise is not understood through the commonly understood ways, but crystal clear through the Bhava Chalit system. regards, Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, "Santhosh" <santhosh@.. .> wrote: > > Dear Non-Sir, > > > > Valid doubt on addressing the forum. The best way is to address a person > directly and respectfully or alternatively if you wish to address everybody, > dear members, dear list, dear forum members, dear friends are appropriate. > > > > Your clarification on bhava chalit is crystal clear. But there are deferring > views. Some astrologers do not consider it at all. I am in favor of your > view. > > > > Regards > > Santhosh > > > > > > _____ > > ancient_indian_ astrology > [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Sheevani > Monday, November 30, 2009 5:20 PM > ancient_indian_ astrology > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji, > > Namaste. > > Can a "Non-Sir" answer your question? > > Lagna and rashis "do Not" change in bhava chalit, only the planets move to > diffent houses depending on their degrees.. > > eg if lagna is 28 deg aries, then planets placed in 0-13 deg aries will be > in 12H, pisces in Bhava chalit chart, > > Say jupiter is placed in 10 deg aries, it will give effects of being placed > in aries sign, but the bhava effects will be that of the 12th house. > > Aspects are considered from 1st house for general effects. > > Hope that clarifies your understanding. > > warmest regards > Sheevani > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > astrology@grou ps.com, puneet ahuja punsoft2003@ wrote: > > > > Dear Sirs > > > > Kindly clarify if the lagna chnages in BHAVA CHART then predictions > would be from lagna chart or bhava chart for Dasa. > > > > Regards > > Puneet Ahuja > > > > --- On Sun, 29/11/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ wrote: > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > astrology@grou ps.com > > Sunday, 29 November, 2009, 9:11 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji, > > you are right.Thank you for the info.I feel any system introduced by > anybody/any clasic should never be brushed aside simply because it is given > to the future generations only after finding it working for themselves.So > when yousaid proof of the pudding is in its eating you are right.I will sure > check it out......and even if it doesnt work for me i dont blame the system > since i have no right.... > > Love and regards, > > gopi. > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Gopi Ji, > > > > > > Bhava Chalit was introduced by Sri Pathi. No other astrologer before > him nor any major classic before that time period ever mentioned even a > single word about it. So it is clear that Sri Pathi was the founder of > this system. > > > > > > We already had an "animated" discussion on this subject, if you refer to > the archives, you can find it. It is a contreversial system and primarily > used by North Indian astrologers. But due to more open mindedness in modern > day and willingness to research, South Indian astrologers have also > started trying it out. > > > > > > Proof of the pudding is in its eating .... so try it out and > see if it works for you. > > >  > > > Regards, > > >  -Manoj > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ . > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Sun, November 29, 2009 9:49:10 AM > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA > > > > > >  > > > Dear Ones, > > > please let me have what ever information about bhava/chalit chakra.What > is its root?Which classic mentioned it?Etc etc... since i found it it very > interesting and i stumbled upon something regarding it in my own > study/research or whatever. > > > Love and regards, > > > gopi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > http://in.. <http://in.. com/> com/ > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.87/2535 - Release Date: 11/30/09 > 01:01:00 > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Dear Bhaskar ji, //> If my son crashes his car and gets caught by an ordinary policemans, i> will address him as "Sir". As soon as he accepts my payment as bribe I> will become friendly with him and address him as "Bhai", and as soon as> he tells me "Sahab wapas milna", I will address him as "Tu".> These forms of addresses all change with the same person itself> depending on the circumstances.// Wah! Beautiful example! Ha..Ha... Love and regards,Sreenadh , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > "SirBossSirji" is a term used both for genuine persons befitting> these terms as well as rascals. Those who dont pay us payments after> goods sold, in time, when we go and sit in their offices to collect our> payments we call them also "Sir".> > If my son crashes his car and gets caught by an ordinary policemans, i> will address him as "Sir". As soon as he accepts my payment as bribe I> will become friendly with him and address him as "Bhai", and as soon as> he tells me "Sahab wapas milna", I will address him as "Tu".> > These forms of addresses all change with the same person itself> depending on the circumstances.> > Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Dear Bhaskar ji,Ha..Ha... //> So this is the way of Life my dear, when shes near, I call her my dear.// Oh! Who is this "my dear" here in the first part of the above sentence I wonder! Love and regards,Sreenadh , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > If the Judge is my good friend, and a beautiful Lady, inside the court I> will adress her as "My lord' and inside my cabin i will address her as> "Raani, or "Darling".> > So this is the way of Life my dear, when shes near, I call her my dear.> > Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 DEAR GIRISHThanks for your mailMy details are Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart.Kindly give your advise for above.Warm RegardsPuneet Ahuja --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon <horamag wrote:Girish menon <horamagRe: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Date: Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM Dear Puneet jiCan you please give us your chart detailsThanks Girish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 DEAR GIRISHPlace-MumbaiRegardsPuneet Ahuja--- On Mon, 30/11/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003 wrote:puneet ahuja <punsoft2003 Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Date: Monday, 30 November, 2009, 8:25 PM DEAR GIRISHThanks for your mailMy details are Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart.Kindly give your advise for above.Warm RegardsPuneet Ahuja --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon <horamag > wrote:Girish menon <horamag >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRAancient_indian_ astrologyMonday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM Dear Puneet jiCan you please give us your chart detailsThanks Girish The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 Dear Puneet, Can you please clarify the negative effect? Is it related to marriage, children or health? Regards Santhosh On Behalf Of puneet ahuja Tuesday, December 01, 2009 11:27 AM Re: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA DEAR GIRISH Place-Mumbai Regards Puneet Ahuja --- On Mon, 30/11/09, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003 (AT) grouply (DOT) com> wrote: puneet ahuja <punsoft2003 (AT) grouply (DOT) com> Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA Monday, 30 November, 2009, 8:25 PM DEAR GIRISH Thanks for your mail My details are Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart. Kindly give your advise for above. Warm Regards Puneet Ahuja --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon <horamag > wrote: Girish menon <horamag > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA ancient_indian_ astrology Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM Dear Puneet ji Can you please give us your chart details Thanks Girish The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.87/2536 - Release 12/01/09 02:35:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 Dear Puneet ji,Are you really getting bad effects is the crux of the matter.If so only then Bhava chart should be considered.But my personal opinion is both 6 as well as 7H could give bad effects but those bad effects vary and you know why.....Love and regards,gopi. , puneet ahuja <punsoft2003 wrote:>> DEAR GIRISH> Thanks for your mailMy details are  Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm  My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart.> Kindly give your advise for above.> Warm RegardsPuneet Ahuja > > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon horamag wrote:> > Girish menon horamag Re: Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> > Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji> Can you please give us your chart details> Thanks> Girish> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 Dear GopiI am getting bad effects as Venus is also retrograde and sincrely think it is bad effects of 6 house as if venus in 7 then it aspects lagna then I must definitely get good effects.Venus Dasa started in 1993 Iit was giving good effects till 2001 after that it has been giving bad effects ,you can say from 1993 to 2001 it gave 7 house effects and since 201 it is giving 6 house bhava effects-is this possible-------------------- RegardsPuneet Ahuja--- On Mon, 30/11/09, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 wrote:gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRATo: Date: Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:45 PM Dear Puneet ji,Are you really getting bad effects is the crux of the matter.If so only then Bhava chart should be considered.But my personal opinion is both 6 as well as 7H could give bad effects but those bad effects vary and you know why.....Love and regards,gopi.ancient_indian_ astrology, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003@ ...> wrote:>> DEAR GIRISH> Thanks for your mailMy details are  Puneet Ahuja, 26.3.1961,Time 10.10pm  My question is since I am having Venus MahaDasa and it is in 7 house but in bhava chart it is in 6 house,I feel that I am getting more negative effects of Venus in 6 house as per Bhava chart.> Kindly give your advise for above.> Warm RegardsPuneet Ahuja > > --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Girish menon horamag wrote:> > Girish menon horamag Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: BHAVA/CHALIT CHAKRA> ancient_indian_ astrology> Monday, 30 November, 2009, 10:02 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet ji> Can you please give us your chart details> Thanks> Girish> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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