Guest guest Report post Posted May 28, 2005 Balaji ji, When I first though about his method, my rationale brain was very sure that it will work. In the season of statistical studies, I supplemented it with a small study. I tried to find the relation of house and relatives RPs on few known correct charts. Alas! the method was not working at all. I was not able to find satisfactory relation even in 30% of charts. My idea was that I will be able to fix the ascendant of native's relative using the cuspal position and/or significator of corresponding house, but it was failing. For example I tried to fix younger brother's ascendant with native's 3rd Cuspal poistion and 3rd house siginifactors. Similarly for other relatives. But I am not able to match actual ascendant. Also I tried to match the dasa with the relatives RP. For example, I thought that the younger brother's RP should match with native's dasa running at the time of younger brother's birth and so on. But this was also not working. I am still puzzled why it is not working. After a lot of thought I concluded that the nature of planets in one's chart are so different from others that they can be taken as altogether different planets (sounds silly??? but I am not able to find out the better rationale; if anybody has, please let me know). For example nature of Mars in my chart (who is the owner of 3rd house) and in my younger brother's chart will be altogether different planets by nature and can not be taken similar. Probably it was the reason that I was not able to find the proper match. The study was not much extensive and I'll have to add few more charts in order to come to the final conclusion. If I'll get sufficient time, I'll do that and inform the group. Meanwhile, if anybody else has the time and interest, it would be great to do this study too. Regards, Punit Pandey , " Balaji G.krishnan " <balaji_g_krishnan> wrote: > Dear punitji > > Learning is a continuous process and I am also learning daily as a student of astrology. > > So,I am using this Ruling planets usually and find it amazing especially if you whole heartedly work the first time..fresh one.When you catch up the correct point..as from the RP it gives the perfect chart..An astrologer has to be cautious and analytical in working the right time.Believe that it will,certainly it gives...Astrology more than theoritical many stalwarts has achieved only by believing 100% efforts..with gods grace..the answer with us. > > Here I have one friend,who knows astrology of all types but he uses K.p also with staunch prayer to god,guruji he achieves..Great Guruji KSKji also achieved many great things by faith,believe and progressing towards the path with ultimately god's will. > > Ruling planets are natural helpers..they come as to help you scientifically.Our mind and the planets are linked.So anything happens in a time has the influence of the planets.When the chart comes take it and call RP.You can see how excellent it has arrived. > > But today man needs money and without money..nothing happens..So,even professional astrologers too take more charts and when they call every day 10 to 20 times...Definitely the skill is required for that astrologer to judge the Rp. > > With pure heart,dedication,faith in god,,,,any divine science will help you for the good.If you use it as a game,with selfish intentions,,no god will help. > Thats why today many of the people is seems to be without any problems.They are not peaceful.... > > Hope u got it.RP is a wonderful tool and if you work methodically,calmly,it gives great results..this is not something newly found.Our rishis told...K.S.Kji applied..astronomers and psychologists has approved this. > > Bye > Balaji G > Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > Balaji ji, > > It would be great if you can supplement it with some example. Also are you using this method for birth time rectification regularly? Theoretically even I believe that it should work but I have not done any serious study on it. > > Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > > On 5/25/05, Balaji G.krishnan <balaji_g_krishnan> wrote: Dear Vijayji > > First analyse the ascendent,that is you.....whether it describes very clearly about you..your physique,nature,behaviour...rugged or cool or beautiful,etc. > If any affection in this that should also be checked. > > Then go to mother..4th bhava.....check the star lord and sub lord..these planets should 100% be your mother's birth Ruling planet..moon sign or star lord. > > Then father...then elder brother....then wife(if married)....then son or daughter. > > Like wise their physique and nature can also be specified clearly.Thats why it is called scientific.As I told already these concepts well tested and certified. > If a person does not gets the result it is not the fault of the system but the view or perception..Attitude decides the altitude. > > Go ahead. You can check as i told..if not getting correctly for all the cases.check again whether the sublord of these cusps....1,4,7,9,11 are conjoined with any planets or aspected by any.then decide to alter the sublord by just moving before or after few minute. > > till u climb up the ladder IT LOOKS taller..thats the task.once you arrived the exact..correct time there the satisfaction and u can understand the greatness of this system and our great guruji KSK. > > > > With thanks and regards > > Balaji G > > > > > vijay thirumalai <vijaythirumalai> wrote: > Dear Mr.Punit Pandey > > Though I am not an expert and only a learner of KP Astrology, I tried in few cases the following. > > 1) Blood relatives - Here if a person has many number of brothers and sisters and children and tried with different combination the results are not the same. > > 2) If the relationship between Ascendant sub and moon lord is established and when we try with close relative concept I get different result. > > As i am not an expert other experts may try and give appropriate method. > > Regards > > Vijay > > > > Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > Friends, > > In my opinion, instead of trying to find out the relation between > one's ascendant and Moon, we should try to find out the relation > between parents' 5th house and one's ascendant. Also we can use other > close relatives like brother and sister for birth time rectification. > It is just an idea and I have never tested it. But my educated guess > says that it can be useful method of rectification. For example, we > can use cuspal position of 5th house and 5th house significators in > parent's chart for fixing the ascendant of native. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > > , " tw853 " <tw853> wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > > > 1. Nobody has monolpoly in the astrlogy as said by Guruji KSK. I do > > belive many of us are here to learn and contribute what ever we can > > for the lovely spirit of Guruji KSK with open mind but not with > > blind faith. > > > > 2. That is why I personally request Kanakji to continue the good > > deed of contribution with open mind for the benefits of KP learners > > in this group. > > > > 3. In stead of diverting attention here and there, let us stick and > > finish this issue of the connection between ASC sublord and MOON > > starlord for birth time rectification. > > > > 4. In the following case of Bill Gate's chart, is the above rule > is > > the same for: > > > > a) TOB 21:01:20 and > > c) TOB 22:00:00 > > because Asc Sbl and Moon Stl are the same Saturn? > > > > 5. If so, how can this rule be reliable? > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > Bill Gates, 28 Oct 1955, Fr, Seattle, WA, USA, 47N36, 122W20, NKPA > > 23:09:01, KPAstro 2.1 > > > > > > a) TOB 21:01:20 PM PST (8:00 west) > > > > Rectified by V.K. Choudhry, " Astrlogy for Life " by David > Hawthorne , > > V.K. Choudhry, 2000, p 170 (The chart is shown on the cover of the > > book.) > > http://www.astroview.com/c_gates.html > > > > Sid Time 23:19:02, Bal Dasa: Saturn 3y:0m:18d > > > > Plt D-M-S Sgl-Stl-Ssl > > Sun 191-50-56 Ve-Ra-Sa-Ma > > Moo 344-31-37 Ju-Sa-Ra-Su > > Mar 166-56-32 Me-Mo-Sa-Mo > > Mer 173-24-39 Me-Ma-Ma-Ra > > Jup 124-37-43 Su-Ke-Mo-Ve > > Ven 207-01-49 Ve-Ju-Ve-Su > > Sat 208-26-12 Ve-Ju-Ve-Me > > Rah 236-19-24 Ma-Me-Ju-Ju > > Ket 056-19-24 Ve-Ma-Ju-Ju > > Ura 099-08-19 Mo-Sa-Ve-Ra > > Nep 185-05-25 Ve-Ma-Su-Ra > > Plu 125-11-40 Su-Ke-Ma-Me > > For 235-36-57 Ma-Me-Ra-Me > > > > > > Bv D-M-S Sgl-Stl-Ssl > > 1 082-19-57 Me-Ju-Sa-Me > > 2 099-35-00 Mo-Sa-Ve-Sa > > 3 119-31-22 Mo-Me-Sa-Ra > > 4 145-42-29 Su-Ve-Me-Sa > > 5 182-04-46 Ve-Ma-Ke-Su > > 6 225-36-57 Ma-Sa-Ju-Me > > 7 262-19-57 Ju-Ve-Sa-Me > > 8 279-35-00 Sa-Su-Ve-Me > > 9 299-31-22 Sa-Ma-Sa-Ra > > 10 325-42-29 Sa-Ju-Me-Sa > > 11 002-04-46 Ma-Ke-Ve-Ju > > 12 045-36-57 Ve-Mo-Ju-Ra > > > > > > > > > > > > b)TOB 21:15 PM > > > > Getulio Bittencourt quotes James Wallace and Jim Erickson, " Hard > > Drive, Bill Gates and the Making of the Microsoft Empire, " John > > Wiley and Sons Inc, NY, 1992, p.10, for 9:15 PM. > > http://www.kozmikhoroscopes.com/gates.htm > > http://www.astrology-x-files.com/astrology/billgates.htm > > http://astrology.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm? > > site= http://www.thezodiac.com/bill.ht > > > > Sid Time 23:32:44, Bal Dasa: Saturn 2y:10m:9d > > > > > > Plt D-M-S Sgl-Stl-Ssl > > Sun 191-51-30 Ve-Ra-Sa-Ma > > Moo 344-39-35 Ju-Sa-Ra-Mo > > Mar 166-56-54 Me-Mo-Sa-Mo > > Mer 173-25-12 Me-Ma-Ma-Ra > > Jup 124-37-47 Su-Ke-Mo-Ve > > Ven 207-02-32 Ve-Ju-Ve-Mo > > Sat 208-26-16 Ve-Ju-Ve-Me > > Rah 236-19-23 Ma-Me-Ju-Ju > > Ket 056-19-23 Ve-Ma-Ju-Ju > > > > > > Bv D-M-S Sgl-Stl-Ssl > > 1 085-04-09 Me-Ju-Me-Ra > > 2 102-20-59 Mo-Sa-Ma-Ju > > 3 122-37-48 Su-Ke-Ve-Me > > 4 149-25-37 Su-Su-Ra-Ra > > 5 186-18-22 Ve-Ma-Mo-Me > > 6 229-17-21 Ma-Me-Ke-Me > > 7 265-04-09 Ju-Ve-Me-Ra > > 8 282-20-59 Sa-Mo-Ra-Ju > > 9 302-37-48 Sa-Ma-Ke-Me > > > > > > c) TOB 22:00 PM > > > > Rodden Rating / Source: A / From memory Source Notes: Cindy > Rempel > > quotes him at a Microsoft function in Seattle; he was sure that it > > was right on 10:00 PM or within the minute. > > http://www.astro.com/samples/phe/?lang=s > > http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/famouscharts/billgates.htm > > > http://www.lynbirkbeck.com/samples/bill_gates_star_soul_guide.pdf#sea > > rch='Bill%20Gates%20horoscope' > > http://www.stariq.com/Main/Articles/P0001197.HT > > > > Sid Time 00:17:52, Bal Dasa: Saturn 2y:2m:25d > > > > Plt D-M-S Sgl-Stl-Ssl > > Sun 191-53-22 Ve-Ra-Sa-Ma > > Moo 345-05-53 Ju-Sa-Ju-Ju > > Mar 166-58-06 Me-Mo-Sa-Mo > > Mer 173-27-02 Me-Ma-Ma-Ra > > Jup 124-38-03 Su-Ke-Mo-Ve > > Ven 207-04-52 Ve-Ju-Ve-Mo > > Sat 208-26-29 Ve-Ju-Ve-Me > > Rah 236-19-17 Ma-Me-Ju-Ju > > Ket 026-19-17 Ve-Ma-Ju-Ju > > Ura 099-08-20 Mo-Sa-Ve-Ra > > Nep 185-05-30 Ve-Ma-Su-Ra > > Plu 125-11-42 Su-Ke-Ma-Me > > For 247-01-11 Ju-Ke-Ra-Ve > > > > > > Bv D-M-S Sgl-Stl-Ssl > > 1 093-48-40 Mo-Sa-Sa-Me > > 2 111-26-04 Mo-Me-Ve-Ke > > 3 132-58-18 Su-Ke-Me-Ju > > 4 161-42-52 Me-Mo-Ma-Ve > > 5 199-44-49 Ve-Ra-Ma-Ke > > 6 240-37-42 Ju-Ke-Ke-Sa > > 7 273-48-40 Sa-Su-Sa-Ve > > 8 291-26-04 Sa-Mo-Ve-Ra > > 9 312-58-18 Sa-Ra-Me-Ve > > 10 341-42-52 Ju-Sa-Mo-Me > > 11 019-44-49 Ma-Ve-Ra-Su > > 12 060-37-42 Me-Ma-Me-Ve > > > > > > > > > > , " Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy " > > <ranga@m...> wrote: > > > Dear Shri.Raichur, > > > Thank you very much for the good example. As a student of KP > > system, > > > when I encounter such cases, I will try to figure out how one > > > astrologer was correct and the other not so correct. In this > > > example, how could you guess that the person did not intend to > > marry > > > the lady? It cannot be that " it just came to you " . Surely you saw > > a > > > pattern in the horoscope that gave a clue? If this pattern is > > > encountered in another horoscope, I suppose the response will be > > > similar. This becomes a part of the KP rule set. Many such > > patterns > > > are discovered through experience and if these are verified and > > > documented, anyone can apply these with good results. Over a > > period > > > of time we will " produce " good astrologers, who will achieve, say > > > 80% success rate without much difficulty. > > > > > > This type of pattern discovery and using it widely is happening > in > > > many disciplines, including the one I am most comfortable with - > > > Computer Science. It is my fond hope that senior KP astrologers > > > (senior by knowledge and experience, not by age) will contribute > > to > > > such a growth of KP system. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rangarajan > > > > > > , anant raichur > <anant_1608> > > > wrote: > > > > Dear Rangarajan > > > > > > > > Your Logic is perfect, but in life this may not be true. My > own > > > experience with the > > > > > > > > Marriage Punarphoo rule of KSK. The result of this condition > is > > > given as a problem > > > > > > > > or obstruction in Marriage of the person. It may be a broken > > > engagement/ a muhurta > > > > > > > > postphoponed etc. > > > > > > > > Aprofession astrologer had seen this in a chart and asked the > > > client, " Had you any > > > > > > > > trouble/obstructions etc. for your marriage ? " The client > > > truthfully answered " NO " > > > > > > > > I saw his chart, and his wife was there, asked him " This lady > is > > > not the one you > > > > > > > > intented to marry ? " . he said " yes. I intended to marry > > another > > > girl but was > > > > > > > > persuaded by my parents, not to proceed " . > > > > > > > > Now think over this matter. Same rule, but 2 astrologers > > guessing, > > > different > > > > > > > > results of the rule. So I say " astrology is not merely rules, > > but > > > something addedd " > > > > > > > > Friends please do not take these remarks, as personal. It is > > ones > > > opinion formed > > > > > > > > after lot of experience. > > > > > > > > Kanakji seems ruffled over some of my remarks. I meant no harm. > > We > > > all accept that > > > > > > > > rules made by KSK or our Rishies work. But can we explain " WHY > > > THEY WORK " . We are not > > > > > > > > questioning the validity of the rules, but we cannot explain > the > > > why. We have to > > > > > > > > state " IT WORKS BECAUSE GOD MADE IT SO. " > > > > > > > > i EXPRESS MY SINCERE REGRETS TO KANKAJI AND OTHERS, IF THEY ARE > > > OFFENDED BY ANY > > > > > > > > OF MY POSTINGS. PLEASE FORGIVE ME. > > > > > > > > GOOD LUCK > > > > > > > ! > > > > > > India Matrimony : Find your life partner online. > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 28, 2005 Balaji ji, When I first though about this method, my rationale brain was very sure that it will work. In the season of statistical studies, I supplemented it with a small study. I tried to find the relation of house and relatives RPs on few known correct charts. Alas! the method was not working at all. I was not able to find satisfactory relation even in 30% of charts. My idea was that I will be able to fix the ascendant of native's relative using the cuspal position and/or significator of corresponding house, but it was failing. For example I tried to fix younger brother's ascendant with native's 3rd Cuspal poistion and 3rd house siginifactors. Similarly for other relatives. But I am not able to match actual ascendant. Also I tried to match the dasa with the relatives RP. For example, I thought that the younger brother's RP should match with native's dasa running at the time of younger brother's birth and so on. But this was also not working. I am still puzzled why it is not working. After a lot of thought I concluded that the nature of planets in one's chart are so different from others that they can be taken as altogether different planets (sounds silly??? but I am not able to find out the better rationale; if anybody has, please let me know). For example nature of Mars in my chart (who is the owner of 3rd house) and in my younger brother's chart will be altogether different planets by nature and can not be taken similar. Probably it was the reason that I was not able to find the proper match. The study was not much extensive and I'll have to add few more charts in order to come to the final conclusion. If I'll get sufficient time, I'll do that and inform the group. Meanwhile, if anybody else has the time and interest, it would be great to do this study too. Regards, Punit Pandey On 5/28/05, Balaji G.krishnan <balaji_g_krishnan wrote: Dear punitji Learning is a continuous process and I am also learning daily as a student of astrology. So,I am using this Ruling planets usually and find it amazing especially if you whole heartedly work the first time..fresh one.When you catch up the correct point..as from the RP it gives the perfect chart..An astrologer has to be cautious and analytical in working the right time.Believe that it will,certainly it gives...Astrology more than theoritical many stalwarts has achieved only by believing 100% efforts..with gods grace..the answer with us. Here I have one friend,who knows astrology of all types but he uses K.p also with staunch prayer to god,guruji he achieves..Great Guruji KSKji also achieved many great things by faith,believe and progressing towards the path with ultimately god's will. Ruling planets are natural helpers..they come as to help you scientifically.Our mind and the planets are linked.So anything happens in a time has the influence of the planets.When the chart comes take it and call RP.You can see how excellent it has arrived. But today man needs money and without money..nothing happens..So,even professional astrologers too take more charts and when they call every day 10 to 20 times...Definitely the skill is required for that astrologer to judge the Rp. With pure heart,dedication,faith in god,,,,any divine science will help you for the good.If you use it as a game,with selfish intentions,,no god will help. Thats why today many of the people is seems to be without any problems.They are not peaceful.... Hope u got it.RP is a wonderful tool and if you work methodically,calmly,it gives great results..this is not something newly found.Our rishis told...K.S.Kji applied..astronomers and psychologists has approved this. Bye Balaji G Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: Balaji ji, It would be great if you can supplement it with some example. Also are you using this method for birth time rectification regularly? Theoretically even I believe that it should work but I have not done any serious study on it. Regards, Punit Pandey On 5/25/05, Balaji G.krishnan <balaji_g_krishnan > wrote: Dear Vijayji First analyse the ascendent,that is you.....whether it describes very clearly about you..your physique,nature,behaviour...rugged or cool or beautiful,etc. If any affection in this that should also be checked. Then go to mother..4th bhava.....check the star lord and sub lord..these planets should 100% be your mother's birth Ruling planet..moon sign or star lord. Then father...then elder brother....then wife(if married)....then son or daughter. Like wise their physique and nature can also be specified clearly.Thats why it is called scientific.As I told already these concepts well tested and certified. If a person does not gets the result it is not the fault of the system but the view or perception..Attitude decides the altitude. Go ahead. You can check as i told..if not getting correctly for all the cases.check again whether the sublord of these cusps....1,4,7,9,11 are conjoined with any planets or aspected by any.then decide to alter the sublord by just moving before or after few minute. till u climb up the ladder IT LOOKS taller..thats the task.once you arrived the exact..correct time there the satisfaction and u can understand the greatness of this system and our great guruji KSK. With thanks and regards Balaji G vijay thirumalai <vijaythirumalai wrote: Dear Mr.Punit Pandey Though I am not an expert and only a learner of KP Astrology, I tried in few cases the following. 1) Blood relatives - Here if a person has many number of brothers and sisters and children and tried with different combination the results are not the same. 2) If the relationship between Ascendant sub and moon lord is established and when we try with close relative concept I get different result. As i am not an expert other experts may try and give appropriate method. Regards Vijay Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: Friends,In my opinion, instead of trying to find out the relation between one's ascendant and Moon, we should try to find out the relation between parents' 5th house and one's ascendant. Also we can use other close relatives like brother and sister for birth time rectification. It is just an idea and I have never tested it. But my educated guess says that it can be useful method of rectification. For example, we can use cuspal position of 5th house and 5th house significators in parent's chart for fixing the ascendant of native.Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey , " tw853 " <tw853> wrote: > Dear All,> > > 1. Nobody has monolpoly in the astrlogy as said by Guruji KSK. I do > belive many of us are here to learn and contribute what ever we can > for the lovely spirit of Guruji KSK with open mind but not with > blind faith.> > 2. That is why I personally request Kanakji to continue the good > deed of contribution with open mind for the benefits of KP learners > in this group. > > 3. In stead of diverting attention here and there, let us stick and > finish this issue of the connection between ASC sublord and MOON > starlord for birth time rectification. > > 4. In the following case of Bill Gate's chart, is the above rule is > the same for: > > a) TOB 21:01:20 and > c) TOB 22:00:00 > because Asc Sbl and Moon Stl are the same Saturn? > > 5. If so, how can this rule be reliable?> > Thanks and regards, > > tw> > > > > Bill Gates, 28 Oct 1955, Fr, Seattle, WA, USA, 47N36, 122W20, NKPA > 23:09:01, KPAstro 2.1> > > a) TOB 21:01:20 PM PST (8:00 west) > > Rectified by V.K. Choudhry, " Astrlogy for Life " by David Hawthorne , > V.K. Choudhry, 2000, p 170 (The chart is shown on the cover of the > book.)> http://www.astroview.com/c_gates.html> > Sid Time 23:19:02, Bal Dasa: Saturn 3y:0m:18d> > Plt D-M-S Sgl-Stl-Ssl> Sun 191-50-56 Ve-Ra-Sa-Ma> Moo 344-31-37 Ju-Sa-Ra-Su > Mar 166-56-32 Me-Mo-Sa-Mo> Mer 173-24-39 Me-Ma-Ma-Ra> Jup 124-37-43 Su-Ke-Mo-Ve> Ven 207-01-49 Ve-Ju-Ve-Su> Sat 208-26-12 Ve-Ju-Ve-Me > Rah 236-19-24 Ma-Me-Ju-Ju> Ket 056-19-24 Ve-Ma-Ju-Ju> Ura 099-08-19 Mo-Sa-Ve-Ra> Nep 185-05-25 Ve-Ma-Su-Ra> Plu 125-11-40 Su-Ke-Ma-Me> For 235-36-57 Ma-Me-Ra-Me > > > Bv D-M-S Sgl-Stl-Ssl> 1 082-19-57 Me-Ju-Sa-Me> 2 099-35-00 Mo-Sa-Ve-Sa> 3 119-31-22 Mo-Me-Sa-Ra> 4 145-42-29 Su-Ve-Me-Sa > 5 182-04-46 Ve-Ma-Ke-Su> 6 225-36-57 Ma-Sa-Ju-Me> 7 262-19-57 Ju-Ve-Sa-Me> 8 279-35-00 Sa-Su-Ve-Me> 9 299-31-22 Sa-Ma-Sa-Ra> 10 325-42-29 Sa-Ju-Me-Sa > 11 002-04-46 Ma-Ke-Ve-Ju> 12 045-36-57 Ve-Mo-Ju-Ra> > > > > > b)TOB 21:15 PM> > Getulio Bittencourt quotes James Wallace and Jim Erickson, " Hard > Drive, Bill Gates and the Making of the Microsoft Empire, " John > Wiley and Sons Inc, NY, 1992, p.10, for 9:15 PM.> http://www.kozmikhoroscopes.com/gates.htm> http://www.astrology-x-files.com/astrology/billgates.htm > http://astrology.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?> site= http://www.thezodiac.com/bill.ht> > Sid Time 23:32:44, Bal Dasa: Saturn 2y:10m:9d> > > Plt D-M-S Sgl-Stl-Ssl> Sun 191-51-30 Ve-Ra-Sa-Ma> Moo 344-39-35 Ju-Sa-Ra-Mo > Mar 166-56-54 Me-Mo-Sa-Mo> Mer 173-25-12 Me-Ma-Ma-Ra> Jup 124-37-47 Su-Ke-Mo-Ve> Ven 207-02-32 Ve-Ju-Ve-Mo> Sat 208-26-16 Ve-Ju-Ve-Me > Rah 236-19-23 Ma-Me-Ju-Ju> Ket 056-19-23 Ve-Ma-Ju-Ju> > > Bv D-M-S Sgl-Stl-Ssl> 1 085-04-09 Me-Ju-Me-Ra> 2 102-20-59 Mo-Sa-Ma-Ju > 3 122-37-48 Su-Ke-Ve-Me> 4 149-25-37 Su-Su-Ra-Ra> 5 186-18-22 Ve-Ma-Mo-Me> 6 229-17-21 Ma-Me-Ke-Me> 7 265-04-09 Ju-Ve-Me-Ra> 8 282-20-59 Sa-Mo-Ra-Ju > 9 302-37-48 Sa-Ma-Ke-Me> > > c) TOB 22:00 PM> > Rodden Rating / Source: A / From memory Source Notes: Cindy Rempel > quotes him at a Microsoft function in Seattle; he was sure that it > was right on 10:00 PM or within the minute.> http://www.astro.com/samples/phe/?lang=s > http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/famouscharts/billgates.htm > http://www.lynbirkbeck.com/samples/bill_gates_star_soul_guide.pdf#sea > rch='Bill%20Gates%20horoscope'> http://www.stariq.com/Main/Articles/P0001197.HT > > Sid Time 00:17:52, Bal Dasa: Saturn 2y:2m:25d> > Plt D-M-S Sgl-Stl-Ssl> Sun 191-53-22 Ve-Ra-Sa-Ma> Moo 345-05-53 Ju-Sa-Ju-Ju> Mar 166-58-06 Me-Mo-Sa-Mo > Mer 173-27-02 Me-Ma-Ma-Ra> Jup 124-38-03 Su-Ke-Mo-Ve> Ven 207-04-52 Ve-Ju-Ve-Mo> Sat 208-26-29 Ve-Ju-Ve-Me> Rah 236-19-17 Ma-Me-Ju-Ju > Ket 026-19-17 Ve-Ma-Ju-Ju> Ura 099-08-20 Mo-Sa-Ve-Ra> Nep 185-05-30 Ve-Ma-Su-Ra> Plu 125-11-42 Su-Ke-Ma-Me> For 247-01-11 Ju-Ke-Ra-Ve> > > Bv D-M-S Sgl-Stl-Ssl> 1 093-48-40 Mo-Sa-Sa-Me> 2 111-26-04 Mo-Me-Ve-Ke> 3 132-58-18 Su-Ke-Me-Ju> 4 161-42-52 Me-Mo-Ma-Ve > 5 199-44-49 Ve-Ra-Ma-Ke> 6 240-37-42 Ju-Ke-Ke-Sa> 7 273-48-40 Sa-Su-Sa-Ve> 8 291-26-04 Sa-Mo-Ve-Ra> 9 312-58-18 Sa-Ra-Me-Ve> 10 341-42-52 Ju-Sa-Mo-Me > 11 019-44-49 Ma-Ve-Ra-Su> 12 060-37-42 Me-Ma-Me-Ve> > > > > , " Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy " > <ranga@m...> wrote:> > Dear Shri.Raichur,> > Thank you very much for the good example. As a student of KP > system, > > when I encounter such cases, I will try to figure out how one > > astrologer was correct and the other not so correct. In this > > example, how could you guess that the person did not intend to > marry > > the lady? It cannot be that " it just came to you " . Surely you saw > a > > pattern in the horoscope that gave a clue? If this pattern is > > encountered in another horoscope, I suppose the response will be > > similar. This becomes a part of the KP rule set. Many such > patterns > > are discovered through experience and if these are verified and > > documented, anyone can apply these with good results. Over a > period > > of time we will " produce " good astrologers, who will achieve, say > > 80% success rate without much difficulty.> > > > This type of pattern discovery and using it widely is happening in > > many disciplines, including the one I am most comfortable with - > > Computer Science. It is my fond hope that senior KP astrologers > > (senior by knowledge and experience, not by age) will contribute > to > > such a growth of KP system.> > > > Regards,> > Rangarajan> > > > , anant raichur <anant_1608> > > wrote:> > > Dear Rangarajan> > > > > > Your Logic is perfect, but in life this may not be true. My own > > experience with the > > > > > > Marriage Punarphoo rule of KSK. The result of this condition is > > given as a problem> > > > > > or obstruction in Marriage of the person. It may be a broken > > engagement/ a muhurta > > > > > > postphoponed etc. > > > > > > Aprofession astrologer had seen this in a chart and asked the > > client, " Had you any > > > > > > trouble/obstructions etc. for your marriage ? " The client > > truthfully answered " NO " > > > > > > I saw his chart, and his wife was there, asked him " This lady is > > not the one you> > > > > > intented to marry ? " . he said " yes. I intended to marry > another > > girl but was> > > > > > persuaded by my parents, not to proceed " . > > > > > > Now think over this matter. Same rule, but 2 astrologers > guessing, > > different> > > > > > results of the rule. So I say " astrology is not merely rules, > but > > something addedd " > > > > > > Friends please do not take these remarks, as personal. It is > ones > > opinion formed > > > > > > after lot of experience. > > > > > > Kanakji seems ruffled over some of my remarks. I meant no harm. > We > > all accept that> > > > > > rules made by KSK or our Rishies work. But can we explain " WHY > > THEY WORK " . We are not> > > > > > questioning the validity of the rules, but we cannot explain the > > why. We have to> > > > > > state " IT WORKS BECAUSE GOD MADE IT SO. " > > > > > > i EXPRESS MY SINCERE REGRETS TO KANKAJI AND OTHERS, IF THEY ARE > > OFFENDED BY ANY> > > > > > OF MY POSTINGS. PLEASE FORGIVE ME.> > > > > > GOOD LUCK ! 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