Neechabanga Rajyoga-dear Gopi Jee

September 25, 2009

Dear Vijay ji,

You have taken my words some where wrong .I have not introduced Bhaskar ji to

you or anyone here but expressed my views that he is senior in KP than me,i have

started to learn it just few month back.

You have asked all the quarries to Bhaska ji so i feel he will take first.If we

discuss any chart than we should try to justify our views and attempt all

questions which are rise in between the discussion.Other wise no value to

discuss any point.

Yes i am agree with you we are here to learn more and more,no body is perfect on

the earth.We are here to sharing the knowledge with each other.

I have not taken you in negative any way.I will now try to take your quarries as

per KP in the night of today.

Thanks & regards,

M.S.Bohra

, " vijay.goel " <goyalvj

wrote:

>

> Dear Bohraji,

>

> I need no introduction from you for respected Bhaskerji, I know he is the

senior KP astrolpger and have due regards for it. I appreciate his knowledge.

> Book is good, it gives static knowledge, but talking with experience

astrologer gives are practical knowledge, which i think is more important. It is

the meeting with Bhasker ji, i had enthusiasm to give my observation on the

chart as per KP System.

>

> Please donot considered my any expression anywhere in this forum in negative

sense, i only believe in knowledge sharing.

> Jyotish is very very vast subject and we are all here to discuss it.

>

> Thankyou,

> Regards,

> Vijay Goel

> Jaipur.

>

> , " Sudan " <msbohra62@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vijay ji,

> >

> > Bhaskar ji is senior and old KP practitioner with good practical experiences

so we first know his opinion on your all questions after that if we feel than we

will discuss it to remove our doubts.

> >

> > Bhaskar ji have given you a very valuable gift which real worth and not

available easily.Most of KP Astrologer consider this book as milestone,so you

are very lucky to have it.Read and understand it, it will give you new dimension

in your practise as " double edge sword " .

> >

> > By the way my school and college educations were happened at Jaipur.I had a

house in Malvia nagar,Near " Upkar " shopping center but sold it because i am

settled at Jodhpur.

> >

> > Thanks & regards,

> >

> > M.S.Bohra

> >

> > , " vijay.goel " <goyalvj@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bohraji,

> > >

> > > // As per KP it require more detail and deep analysis//

> > >

> > > Kindly provide your views on my queries posted to respected Bhaskerji,

> > >

> > > We all will get more benefited.

> > >

> > > Thankyou,

> > > Best Wishes,

> > > Vijay Goel

> > > Jaipur.

> > >

> > > , " Sudan " <msbohra62@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Vijay ji,

> > > >

> > > > Here Bhaskar ji absolutely right we have to use Chalit chart for any

conclusion because it is final positions of planets.

> > > >

> > > > Here Lagana and Moon lagana is same,so lagana have double advantages.

> > > >

> > > > Rahu in 7th in the sign of Mercury and Mercury is Uchcha and

Vargotam.Mercury conjunct with Jupiter l/o 1,4,Saturn l/o 2,3 and Sun l/o

9th.Here Rahu will play the role of Mercury whic associate with all supportive

houses so Rahu will give marriage here.Jupiter 1.2 lord in 10 all indicate

expansion of " man-saman,shukh,and Prabhav " .

> > > >

> > > > Rahu in 7th give some problems here by any reason both partner could not

live together for so long time,what is status please let me know.If she do

" Durgasapsati " regularly than she will not have the bad effect of rahu in 7th.

> > > >

> > > > As per KP it require more detail and deep analysis.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks & regards,

> > > >

> > > > M.S.Bohra

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

September 25, 2009

Dear Bohra ji,

Please do not bother to spend precious time unnecessarily on this chart.

As now, I am going to take this matter forward.

regards/Bhaskar

, " Sudan " <msbohra62

wrote:

>

> Dear Vijay ji,

>

> You have taken my words some where wrong .I have not introduced

Bhaskar ji to you or anyone here but expressed my views that he is

senior in KP than me,i have started to learn it just few month back.

>

> You have asked all the quarries to Bhaska ji so i feel he will take

first.If we discuss any chart than we should try to justify our views

and attempt all questions which are rise in between the discussion.Other

wise no value to discuss any point.

>

> Yes i am agree with you we are here to learn more and more,no body is

perfect on the earth.We are here to sharing the knowledge with each

other.

>

> I have not taken you in negative any way.I will now try to take your

quarries as per KP in the night of today.

>

> Thanks & regards,

>

> M.S.Bohra

, " vijay.goel " goyalvj@

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bohraji,

> >

> > I need no introduction from you for respected Bhaskerji, I know he

is the senior KP astrolpger and have due regards for it. I appreciate

his knowledge.

> > Book is good, it gives static knowledge, but talking with experience

astrologer gives are practical knowledge, which i think is more

important. It is the meeting with Bhasker ji, i had enthusiasm to give

my observation on the chart as per KP System.

> >

> > Please donot considered my any expression anywhere in this forum in

negative sense, i only believe in knowledge sharing.

> > Jyotish is very very vast subject and we are all here to discuss it.

> >

> > Thankyou,

> > Regards,

> > Vijay Goel

> > Jaipur.

> >

> > , " Sudan "

<msbohra62@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vijay ji,

> > >

> > > Bhaskar ji is senior and old KP practitioner with good practical

experiences so we first know his opinion on your all questions after

that if we feel than we will discuss it to remove our doubts.

> > >

> > > Bhaskar ji have given you a very valuable gift which real worth

and not available easily.Most of KP Astrologer consider this book as

milestone,so you are very lucky to have it.Read and understand it, it

will give you new dimension in your practise as " double edge sword " .

> > >

> > > By the way my school and college educations were happened at

Jaipur.I had a house in Malvia nagar,Near " Upkar " shopping center but

sold it because i am settled at Jodhpur.

> > >

> > > Thanks & regards,

> > >

> > > M.S.Bohra

> > >

> > > , " vijay.goel "

<goyalvj@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bohraji,

> > > >

> > > > // As per KP it require more detail and deep analysis//

> > > >

> > > > Kindly provide your views on my queries posted to respected

Bhaskerji,

> > > >

> > > > We all will get more benefited.

> > > >

> > > > Thankyou,

> > > > Best Wishes,

> > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > Jaipur.

> > > >

> > > > , " Sudan "

<msbohra62@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Vijay ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Here Bhaskar ji absolutely right we have to use Chalit chart

for any conclusion because it is final positions of planets.

> > > > >

> > > > > Here Lagana and Moon lagana is same,so lagana have double

advantages.

> > > > >

> > > > > Rahu in 7th in the sign of Mercury and Mercury is Uchcha and

Vargotam.Mercury conjunct with Jupiter l/o 1,4,Saturn l/o 2,3 and Sun

l/o 9th.Here Rahu will play the role of Mercury whic associate with all

supportive houses so Rahu will give marriage here.Jupiter 1.2 lord in 10

all indicate expansion of " man-saman,shukh,and Prabhav " .

> > > > >

> > > > > Rahu in 7th give some problems here by any reason both partner

could not live together for so long time,what is status please let me

know.If she do " Durgasapsati " regularly than she will not have the bad

effect of rahu in 7th.

> > > > >

> > > > > As per KP it require more detail and deep analysis.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks & regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > M.S.Bohra

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

September 25, 2009

Dear Vijay goel ji,

My comments in Green.

As per my obervation i find that :Rahu is in the nakshatra of jupiter and sublord is rahu.Seventh cusp sub lord is jupiter.Jupiter is also aspecting 7th house and rahu in chalit chart is in the nakshatra of mars.Sun is in the nakshatra of Rahu.

My comments-

The above is very clear and does not need any observations as all this comes on the Computer screen.

Rahu in Chalit Chart is in nakshatra of Mars, is something I have heard for the first time in my Life.Nakshatra does not change for any planet be it in any chart, and one never addresses or uses a term such as so n so planet in so n so nakshatra in Chalit Chart.

Query 1) Rahu becomes the strong significator of 7th house \ marriage, so she must get married in Ra\Ra\Rahu. or Ra\Ra\Sun or Ra\ra\mars or any other antar, why delay ?

My comments-

Please explain how does Rahu become a strong significator of the 7th and why must she get married in Ra\Ra\Rahu. or Ra\Ra\Sun or Ra\ra\mars or any other antar ?2) She got married in Rahu\jupiter\Saturn\venus, (25th nov 07). Here Saturn is in the nakshatra of Moon the lord of 8th house, saturn is also star lord of cuspul sub lord of 8th house.Here saturn is strong significator of 8th house.

My comments-

You have decided to TALK ABOUT 4 DASHAS to defend your stance of 8th house, and now using Mahadasha, Antar,Pratyantar and Sookshma. Why are you not using Ati-sookshma ? And what explanation do you have for Venus who appears in your above

collection of planets to justify marriage ? Further, These 4 planets mentioned by You if one talks about Starlord of cuspal SubLords, then all 12 houses will appear to be activated. Then how did the girl marry at all ?Query 2) a) Does 8th house signifies marriage in KP , why this prayanter not any other ? b) Is Jupiter is a strong significator of 7th house , how ?

My comments -

The 8th house does signify marriage in KP system, (but not as normally understood), but that is too advanced Kp, and no sense of me explaining all that here. Why this pratyantar is another story for which a ticket has to be purchased to watch the show.

Jupiter is the sublord of the 7th house, Jupiter is placed in a Nakshatra signifying the 11th house, The Sublord of Jupiter is the owner of the 7th house.

I hope we all will have some more clear understanding on KP system.

You were right that the above was not written by anybody else. I realised after reading the above that just a few good sounding terms have been picked up from here and there and thrown around to create a impact . This is written by you, undoubetdly. Last time I did not bother to read your full mail sentence by sentence . In fact I should not have continued the thread from my side when I realised that You are doing Traditional astrology but talking about KP (Like You mentioned Rahu being in 8th house thats why it gave marriage, just to impress upon Vandana Mishraji that she was right and blah.... And the later on when i mentioned the basic principle of KP to check the BhavaChalit and Rahu moves to the 7th, you accepted). Actually You shall need a full one year of study of KP to understand well the meaning of basics, and intercepted Chart (This One) and the other pivots on which the base of KP rests.

Please spare me of any more exchanges. Not interested for next one year, till the basics are mastered as this takes away important valuable time, and time is Money.

Do not mind my strong words at times. These are like the chivels who carve a beautiful statue, and it hurts till it reaches that stage. you are a intelligent man and will certainly pick up fast if you wish to.

best wishes,

bhaskar.

September 25, 2009

Dear Ms. Vandana Ji, Shir Vijay Ji and Shir Bhaskar Ji,

I got married during Rahu - Mars my Rahu is in 8H despositor is Mars.

Using (JHora 7.32) Lahiri and KP Ayanamsa experimenting with TRUE and MEAN Nodes

option and looking at Bhava Chalita RAHU DOES NOT MOVE from my 8H!!!

Now we can consider this as well Rahu and Mars both signify since (Rahu is in

Mars house) my 1H and 8H when the Vim Dasa was running. Now see when i got

married in 19th Dec 2004

Rahu-Mars Vim dasa

Jupiter was transiting my 6H from Lagna 9H from my natal Moon Saturn was in

Retro and ans was transiting 4H from Lagna 7H from Moon Non of these planets

were aspeting my Natal 7H (trying to look/understand from Shri KNR Ji's Double

Transit theory)

Yet Marriage took place

i do not see any 2,7, 9,and 11 house siginificance or activation when my

marriage took place...

Kindly educate with your knowledge sharing.. and appreciate your feedback..

Regards

Chandu2Chill

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

> Dear Shri Goelji,

Just yesterday I gave you 2 and a half hours of my time and you gave me a box of

mithai, but what I gave you was worth millions of Rupees worth knowledge,

practical and applicable in reality which unfortunately you have not registered

apparently I am so very sad to say.

I gave you some inputs on your own chart, on transits, on use of

Transits and Ruling Planets, and also the power of Bhava Chalita.

In this case too, Rahu moves to the 7th house in Bhava Chalita Chart and so will

give results of the 7th house and not the 8th .

regards/Bhaskar.

> , " vijay.goel "

> <goyalvj@> wrote:

Dear Vandanaji,

Just to say Rahu in 8th can give marriage in its mahadasa, i am

providing you the example.

November 3, 1981

Time: 11:25:00

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 76 E 34' 00 " , 27 N 03' 00 "

Bandikui, India

In this chart of Dhanu Lagna and rasi, rahu is in 8th house and she

got marrried in Rahu\jupiter antardasa on 25th nov 07.

Jupiter is aspecting 7th house from 11th house.

Thanks,

Best Wishes,

Vijay Goel

Jaipur.

> > , Vandna Misra

> vandana_mishra_91@ wrote:

yes i repeat rahu in 8h can give marriage as it is natural karaka

for marriage.again i repeat it does not work indepedently already

mentioned factors has to be taken into consideration.

before taking any decision about its significance.

Regards.

VANDANA MISHRA

> > > Dear Vandana ji,

> > >

> > > I am amused by your comments.

> > >

> > > //now you tell me why you are so concerned for female//

> > >

> > > I am really not so much concerned as you tend to feel. But even if I

> > > was, as per suppositions, still it does not matter. At least being a

> man

> > > I should be concerned for females, which is quite natural.

> > >

> > > //I Suppose you know the answer of what does the Rahu do in 8h in

> female

> > > chart.being a secretive planet a woman may involve in some illicit

> > > relationship. she may suffer with some disoder in her private parts

> and

> > > sometimes difficulty in concieving a child .//

> > >

> > > Exactly what I sensed you would reeply back, which is why I asked

> about

> > > Rahu in 8th for a female. Now you see, at one point of this thread

> you

> > > have mentioned that 8th house is to be studied for marriage, and now

> you

> > > have written, its for illicit relationships.

> > >

> > > So exactly how do we suggest the 8th for marriage ?

> > >

> > > Yes males too are supsecptible I fully agree to same. In fact males

> are

> > > the cause of corruption of women in society.

> > >

> > > best wishes,

> > >

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Vandna "

> > > <vandana_mishra_ 91@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected BHASKARJI,

> > > > I Suppose you know the answer of what does the Rahu do in 8h in

> female

> > > chart.being a secretive planet a woman may involve in some illicit

> > > relationship. she may suffer with some disoder in her private parts

> and

> > > sometimes difficulty in concieving a child . BUT it is a very vague

> > > reply becoz rahu is a shadowy planet so it does not work

> indepedently

> > > for that one has to see placement of its dispositor,its nakshatra

> lord

> > > and its placement in navamsha.then only one can come to any

> > > conlusion.According to some classic rahu is also a spiritual planet

> it

> > > can help in dhyan and sadhana and some other occult activities like

> > > tantra kriya.

> > > > now you tell me why you are so concerned for female.aren' t the

> male

> > > are not suscepitible to thes traits when rahu is placed in 8h in

> male

> > > chart.Of course they can't concieve SO LEAVE THAT PORTION.

> > > > REGARDS,GOD BLESS.

> > > > VANDANA MISHRA.

> > > >

> > > > like tantra sadhna.

> > > > But i wonder why woman aren't the male are not prone to above

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

> > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Vandana ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > 8th and 12th house also indicate secret physical unions and

> > > enjoyment of

> > > > > such pleasures behind closed doors without having a legal

> signature

> > > of

> > > > > marriage. Some KP astrologers also consider the 8th house for

> > > marriage

> > > > > though I may personally not agree with this. It may also

> indicate

> > > sex

> > > > > before marriage.

> > > > >

> > > > > What does Rahu in 8th house signify for a women in her chart

> > > according

> > > > > to you?

> > > > >

> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Vandna Misra

> > > > > <vandana_mishra_ 91@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Manojji,

> > > > > > 8H signify mangalya sukha in female chart so when this house

> > > activates

> > > > > through dasha{,as you yourself mention it sustain marriage }

> person

> > > > > > may get married. besides it is sukh bhava of children{4 from

> 5h}

> > > to

> > > > > have childeren one has to get married.12H is bed life

> happiness.to

> > > get

> > > > > that pleasure legally one has to tie knot.isn;t it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards.

> > > > > > vandana mishra.

> > > > > > --- On Tue, 9/22/09, Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@

> > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga

> > > Rajyoga-dear

> > > > > Gopi Jee

> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > > Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 8:17 PM

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Vandana Ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Could you please explain why 8H and 12H signify marriage?

> Sorry

> > > for

> > > > > asking some thing very basic, but, from my understanding it is

> > > primarily

> > > > > 2, 7, 11 and some include 9. I understand the 8H being 2nd from

> the

> > > 7th

> > > > > can " sustain " marriage, but, can it be used to " denote "

> marriage?

> > > Also

> > > > > 12H is 6th from the 7th, so if 7th denotes the primary house of

> > > > > marriage, how is 12H also a house of marriage?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > -Manoj

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Vandna <vandana_mishra_ 91 >

> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > > Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:48:46 PM

> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga

> Rajyoga-dear

> > > Gopi

> > > > > Jee

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected sreenadhji,

> > > > > > I am overwhelmed with your detailed explaination, rather i am

> > > still

> > > > > relishing it.just a FEW querries for this inquisitive mind.you

> have

> > > > > mentioned horoscpe having same combination can point to

> different

> > > > > stature of individual's life like-married living happily,married

> > > > > divorced.... .unmarried sainthood etc.plus you have mentioned

> same

> > > > > planetary combination with changing moon position in context of

> > > dasha

> > > > > sequence can indicate above possibilities- -now what i have

> > > understood

> > > > > from above statement is that IT is dasha which decides.now my

> querry

> > > is

> > > > > -in case of happily married is it possible that bad dasha never

> > > comes

> > > > > not even AD/PD.then at that time how marriage

> survives?especially

> > > > > > When IN same planetatry combination another marriage

> fails.again

> > > > > supported by same bad dasha.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > in another example of unmarried saint is it possible to getnot

> > > even a

> > > > > single marriage bhava dasha when we have too many houses for

> > > marriage

> > > > > 2h,7h,8h,12h sometimes even 5h.lets say no MD but again what

> about

> > > > > AD/PD. still that GREAT man escapes from later's clutches?

> > > > > > ...I STILL WONDER ABOUT THIS CATASTROPHE OF MARITAL

> COMBINATION.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > WITH DUE REGARDS AND BEST WISHES,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > VANDANA MISHRA

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -- In ancient_indian_ astrology, " sreesog "

> > > sreesog@

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Vanadana ji,

> > > > > > > If a combination indicating marriage possibility is present,

> a

> > > > > > > potential dasa comes, and if the age is ripe then marriage

> > > > > could/will

> > > > > > > happen at that time.

> > > > > > > * Combination indicating marriage could be even a benefic in

> > > 2nd,

> > > > > 9th,

> > > > > > > 11th etc

> > > > > > > * Dasa could be - the dasas of said planets, or its

> unaflicated

> > > > > lords,

> > > > > > > or if the dasa of a planet placed in own house

> > > > > > > But if there is a combination that indicate the breaking of

> a

> > > > > > > marriage, death of wife etc is present, and if the

> corresponding

> > > > > dasa

> > > > > > > comes, and if the age is ripe (ie. it should be after the

> > > marriage -

> > > > > if

> > > > > > > only marriage happened then only it can breakdown) then that

> > > > > marriage

> > > > > > > will break due to the cause indicated by the said

> combination.

> > > > > > > So the horoscope having the SAME combinations itself can

> point

> > > to -

> > > > > > > * Married and is living happly (The bad dasa never came and

> the

> > > > > result

> > > > > > > didn't materilized)

> > > > > > > * Married, Divorced (Both the dasa indicating marriage as

> well

> > > as

> > > > > > > divorce came)

> > > > > > > * Unmarrid, but never beame a saint (neither the dasa

> indicating

> > > > > > > marriage nor the dasa indicating saint hood)

> > > > > > > * Unmarried Saint (Dasa indicating marriage did not come but

> the

> > > > > dasa

> > > > > > > indicating sainthood came)

> > > > > > > * Married saint (Dasa indicating marriage came, marriage

> broken

> > > and

> > > > > > > became a saint)

> > > > > > > So ultimatly even though it is the combinations indicating

> the

> > > > > results

> > > > > > > that GENERATE the results, but it is the dasas which DELIVER

> > > them.

> > > > > So

> > > > > > > just by looking at the combinations such as a some malefics

> in

> > > 7th

> > > > > or

> > > > > > > 8th etc alone (of course they are important, but) - you

> cannot

> > > come

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > the conclusion that the individual is a victim of broken

> > > marriage or

> > > > > > > denial of marriage; both are possible. A good astrologer

> will

> > > > > therefore

> > > > > > > check the dasas before deriving the conclusion regarding

> whether

> > > it

> > > > > was

> > > > > > > a marriage-happlife, marriage-breakdown, denial of marriage,

> > > > > > > bachelor-saint etc.

> > > > > > > As mentioned earlier the same planetary combination with

> > > changing

> > > > > > > moon position (different nakshatra dasa sequences) can

> indicate

> > > all

> > > > > > > these possibilities, and this itself is the beauty of

> astrology!

> > > > > > > Love and regards,

> > > > > > > Sreenadh

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Vandna

> Misra

> > > > > > > <vandana_mishra_ 91@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > RESPECTED ASTROLOGERS,

> > > > > > > > Since Gopiji,has given us liberty to discuss his chart i

> was

> > > > > wondering

> > > > > > > how one can diifferentiate between delay marriage later

> broken

> > > down

> > > > > or

> > > > > > > denial in marriage.as in bothï¿½ the cases 7h,12h,2h and

> > > karaka

> > > > > > > venusï¿½has to be afflicted.

> > > > > > > > With Regards to all,

> > > > > > > > VANDANA MISHRA

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

September 25, 2009

In parts of North India, Rahu is considered as an unqualified marriage giver. People call Rahu as Bahau (or one which gives marriage unconditionally without getting connected to the houses of marriage). Any planet in the 8th house, automatically, makes a connection with the second house and hence become eligible for giving marriage but it is the second house which is important and not the 8th house.

Regarding Shri Chandu's observation that double transit theory doesnt work in his case, I would request him to provide his birth data so that we can examine it again. Because in my observation, it is rare for the double transit theory to fail. But since he says it doesnt work in his case, lets see it again.

Vandana Mishra's observation that seventh is "dhyan" and eighth is "samadhi" is a valid observation and it makes it obvious that she is then connected to BVB is some way.

Seventh house afflictions in case of females does tend to take them towards spirituality.

regards,

Mouji

September 25, 2009

Dear friend,

You are right.

We must give weightage to

planetary intervention

upon 7th house and lords

counted from the natal lagna, natal moon

as well as navamsa chart

to get an overall balanced picture of

things.

So role of planetary intervention (ARGALA) and

planetary cooperation ( ASHTAKVARGA)

are essential basic componets of

astrology for getting a holistic picture of

the complete horoscope as a whole

in any subject matter such as married life.

Regards,

Mrutyunjay Tripathy

, " CP " <nanna_id2006 wrote:

>

> Dear Ms. Vandana Ji, Shir Vijay Ji and Shir Bhaskar Ji,

>

> I got married during Rahu - Mars my Rahu is in 8H despositor is Mars.

>

> Using (JHora 7.32) Lahiri and KP Ayanamsa experimenting with TRUE and MEAN

Nodes option and looking at Bhava Chalita RAHU DOES NOT MOVE from my 8H!!!

>

> Now we can consider this as well Rahu and Mars both signify since (Rahu is in

Mars house) my 1H and 8H when the Vim Dasa was running. Now see when i got

married in 19th Dec 2004

>

> Rahu-Mars Vim dasa

>

> Jupiter was transiting my 6H from Lagna 9H from my natal Moon Saturn was in

Retro and ans was transiting 4H from Lagna 7H from Moon Non of these planets

were aspeting my Natal 7H (trying to look/understand from Shri KNR Ji's Double

Transit theory)

>

> Yet Marriage took place

>

> i do not see any 2,7, 9,and 11 house siginificance or activation when my

marriage took place...

>

> Kindly educate with your knowledge sharing.. and appreciate your feedback..

>

> Regards

>

> Chandu2Chill

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

wrote:

>

> > Dear Shri Goelji,

>

> Just yesterday I gave you 2 and a half hours of my time and you gave me a box

of mithai, but what I gave you was worth millions of Rupees worth knowledge,

practical and applicable in reality which unfortunately you have not registered

apparently I am so very sad to say.

>

> I gave you some inputs on your own chart, on transits, on use of

> Transits and Ruling Planets, and also the power of Bhava Chalita.

>

> In this case too, Rahu moves to the 7th house in Bhava Chalita Chart and so

will give results of the 7th house and not the 8th .

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

> > , " vijay.goel "

> > <goyalvj@> wrote:

>

> Dear Vandanaji,

>

> Just to say Rahu in 8th can give marriage in its mahadasa, i am

> providing you the example.

>

> November 3, 1981

> Time: 11:25:00

> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> Place: 76 E 34' 00 " , 27 N 03' 00 "

> Bandikui, India

>

> In this chart of Dhanu Lagna and rasi, rahu is in 8th house and she

> got marrried in Rahu\jupiter antardasa on 25th nov 07.

>

> Jupiter is aspecting 7th house from 11th house.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Best Wishes,

> Vijay Goel

> Jaipur.

>

> > > , Vandna Misra

> > vandana_mishra_91@ wrote:

>

> yes i repeat rahu in 8h can give marriage as it is natural karaka

> for marriage.again i repeat it does not work indepedently already

> mentioned factors has to be taken into consideration.

> before taking any decision about its significance.

>

> Regards.

> VANDANA MISHRA

>

> > > > Dear Vandana ji,

> > > >

> > > > I am amused by your comments.

> > > >

> > > > //now you tell me why you are so concerned for female//

> > > >

> > > > I am really not so much concerned as you tend to feel. But even if I

> > > > was, as per suppositions, still it does not matter. At least being a

> > man

> > > > I should be concerned for females, which is quite natural.

> > > >

> > > > //I Suppose you know the answer of what does the Rahu do in 8h in

> > female

> > > > chart.being a secretive planet a woman may involve in some illicit

> > > > relationship. she may suffer with some disoder in her private parts

> > and

> > > > sometimes difficulty in concieving a child .//

> > > >

> > > > Exactly what I sensed you would reeply back, which is why I asked

> > about

> > > > Rahu in 8th for a female. Now you see, at one point of this thread

> > you

> > > > have mentioned that 8th house is to be studied for marriage, and now

> > you

> > > > have written, its for illicit relationships.

> > > >

> > > > So exactly how do we suggest the 8th for marriage ?

> > > >

> > > > Yes males too are supsecptible I fully agree to same. In fact males

> > are

> > > > the cause of corruption of women in society.

> > > >

> > > > best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Vandna "

> > > > <vandana_mishra_ 91@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected BHASKARJI,

> > > > > I Suppose you know the answer of what does the Rahu do in 8h in

> > female

> > > > chart.being a secretive planet a woman may involve in some illicit

> > > > relationship. she may suffer with some disoder in her private parts

> > and

> > > > sometimes difficulty in concieving a child . BUT it is a very vague

> > > > reply becoz rahu is a shadowy planet so it does not work

> > indepedently

> > > > for that one has to see placement of its dispositor,its nakshatra

> > lord

> > > > and its placement in navamsha.then only one can come to any

> > > > conlusion.According to some classic rahu is also a spiritual planet

> > it

> > > > can help in dhyan and sadhana and some other occult activities like

> > > > tantra kriya.

> > > > > now you tell me why you are so concerned for female.aren' t the

> > male

> > > > are not suscepitible to thes traits when rahu is placed in 8h in

> > male

> > > > chart.Of course they can't concieve SO LEAVE THAT PORTION.

> > > > > REGARDS,GOD BLESS.

> > > > > VANDANA MISHRA.

> > > > >

> > > > > like tantra sadhna.

> > > > > But i wonder why woman aren't the male are not prone to above

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

> > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Vandana ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 8th and 12th house also indicate secret physical unions and

> > > > enjoyment of

> > > > > > such pleasures behind closed doors without having a legal

> > signature

> > > > of

> > > > > > marriage. Some KP astrologers also consider the 8th house for

> > > > marriage

> > > > > > though I may personally not agree with this. It may also

> > indicate

> > > > sex

> > > > > > before marriage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What does Rahu in 8th house signify for a women in her chart

> > > > according

> > > > > > to you?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Vandna Misra

> > > > > > <vandana_mishra_ 91@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Manojji,

> > > > > > > 8H signify mangalya sukha in female chart so when this house

> > > > activates

> > > > > > through dasha{,as you yourself mention it sustain marriage }

> > person

> > > > > > > may get married. besides it is sukh bhava of children{4 from

> > 5h}

> > > > to

> > > > > > have childeren one has to get married.12H is bed life

> > happiness.to

> > > > get

> > > > > > that pleasure legally one has to tie knot.isn;t it.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards.

> > > > > > > vandana mishra.

> > > > > > > --- On Tue, 9/22/09, Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@

> > > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga

> > > > Rajyoga-dear

> > > > > > Gopi Jee

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > > > Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 8:17 PM

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Vandana Ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Could you please explain why 8H and 12H signify marriage?

> > Sorry

> > > > for

> > > > > > asking some thing very basic, but, from my understanding it is

> > > > primarily

> > > > > > 2, 7, 11 and some include 9. I understand the 8H being 2nd from

> > the

> > > > 7th

> > > > > > can " sustain " marriage, but, can it be used to " denote "

> > marriage?

> > > > Also

> > > > > > 12H is 6th from the 7th, so if 7th denotes the primary house of

> > > > > > marriage, how is 12H also a house of marriage?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > -Manoj

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Vandna <vandana_mishra_ 91 >

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > > > Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:48:46 PM

> > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga

> > Rajyoga-dear

> > > > Gopi

> > > > > > Jee

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected sreenadhji,

> > > > > > > I am overwhelmed with your detailed explaination, rather i am

> > > > still

> > > > > > relishing it.just a FEW querries for this inquisitive mind.you

> > have

> > > > > > mentioned horoscpe having same combination can point to

> > different

> > > > > > stature of individual's life like-married living happily,married

> > > > > > divorced.... .unmarried sainthood etc.plus you have mentioned

> > same

> > > > > > planetary combination with changing moon position in context of

> > > > dasha

> > > > > > sequence can indicate above possibilities- -now what i have

> > > > understood

> > > > > > from above statement is that IT is dasha which decides.now my

> > querry

> > > > is

> > > > > > -in case of happily married is it possible that bad dasha never

> > > > comes

> > > > > > not even AD/PD.then at that time how marriage

> > survives?especially

> > > > > > > When IN same planetatry combination another marriage

> > fails.again

> > > > > > supported by same bad dasha.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > in another example of unmarried saint is it possible to getnot

> > > > even a

> > > > > > single marriage bhava dasha when we have too many houses for

> > > > marriage

> > > > > > 2h,7h,8h,12h sometimes even 5h.lets say no MD but again what

> > about

> > > > > > AD/PD. still that GREAT man escapes from later's clutches?

> > > > > > > ...I STILL WONDER ABOUT THIS CATASTROPHE OF MARITAL

> > COMBINATION.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > WITH DUE REGARDS AND BEST WISHES,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > VANDANA MISHRA

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -- In ancient_indian_ astrology, " sreesog "

> > > > sreesog@

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Vanadana ji,

> > > > > > > > If a combination indicating marriage possibility is present,

> > a

> > > > > > > > potential dasa comes, and if the age is ripe then marriage

> > > > > > could/will

> > > > > > > > happen at that time.

> > > > > > > > * Combination indicating marriage could be even a benefic in

> > > > 2nd,

> > > > > > 9th,

> > > > > > > > 11th etc

> > > > > > > > * Dasa could be - the dasas of said planets, or its

> > unaflicated

> > > > > > lords,

> > > > > > > > or if the dasa of a planet placed in own house

> > > > > > > > But if there is a combination that indicate the breaking of

> > a

> > > > > > > > marriage, death of wife etc is present, and if the

> > corresponding

> > > > > > dasa

> > > > > > > > comes, and if the age is ripe (ie. it should be after the

> > > > marriage -

> > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > only marriage happened then only it can breakdown) then that

> > > > > > marriage

> > > > > > > > will break due to the cause indicated by the said

> > combination.

> > > > > > > > So the horoscope having the SAME combinations itself can

> > point

> > > > to -

> > > > > > > > * Married and is living happly (The bad dasa never came and

> > the

> > > > > > result

> > > > > > > > didn't materilized)

> > > > > > > > * Married, Divorced (Both the dasa indicating marriage as

> > well

> > > > as

> > > > > > > > divorce came)

> > > > > > > > * Unmarrid, but never beame a saint (neither the dasa

> > indicating

> > > > > > > > marriage nor the dasa indicating saint hood)

> > > > > > > > * Unmarried Saint (Dasa indicating marriage did not come but

> > the

> > > > > > dasa

> > > > > > > > indicating sainthood came)

> > > > > > > > * Married saint (Dasa indicating marriage came, marriage

> > broken

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > became a saint)

> > > > > > > > So ultimatly even though it is the combinations indicating

> > the

> > > > > > results

> > > > > > > > that GENERATE the results, but it is the dasas which DELIVER

> > > > them.

> > > > > > So

> > > > > > > > just by looking at the combinations such as a some malefics

> > in

> > > > 7th

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > 8th etc alone (of course they are important, but) - you

> > cannot

> > > > come

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > the conclusion that the individual is a victim of broken

> > > > marriage or

> > > > > > > > denial of marriage; both are possible. A good astrologer

> > will

> > > > > > therefore

> > > > > > > > check the dasas before deriving the conclusion regarding

> > whether

> > > > it

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > a marriage-happlife, marriage-breakdown, denial of marriage,

> > > > > > > > bachelor-saint etc.

> > > > > > > > As mentioned earlier the same planetary combination with

> > > > changing

> > > > > > > > moon position (different nakshatra dasa sequences) can

> > indicate

> > > > all

> > > > > > > > these possibilities, and this itself is the beauty of

> > astrology!

> > > > > > > > Love and regards,

> > > > > > > > Sreenadh

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Vandna

> > Misra

> > > > > > > > <vandana_mishra_ 91@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > RESPECTED ASTROLOGERS,

> > > > > > > > > Since Gopiji,has given us liberty to discuss his chart i

> > was

> > > > > > wondering

> > > > > > > > how one can diifferentiate between delay marriage later

> > broken

> > > > down

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > denial in marriage.as in bothï¿½ the cases 7h,12h,2h and

> > > > karaka

> > > > > > > > venusï¿½has to be afflicted.

> > > > > > > > > With Regards to all,

> > > > > > > > > VANDANA MISHRA

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

September 25, 2009

Dear chandu 2 Chill,

Pl give your birth details and we shall check.

regards/Bhaskar.

, " CP " <nanna_id2006

wrote:

>

> Dear Ms. Vandana Ji, Shir Vijay Ji and Shir Bhaskar Ji,

>

> I got married during Rahu - Mars my Rahu is in 8H despositor is Mars.

>

> Using (JHora 7.32) Lahiri and KP Ayanamsa experimenting with TRUE and

MEAN Nodes option and looking at Bhava Chalita RAHU DOES NOT MOVE from

my 8H!!!

>

> Now we can consider this as well Rahu and Mars both signify since

(Rahu is in Mars house) my 1H and 8H when the Vim Dasa was running. Now

see when i got married in 19th Dec 2004

>

> Rahu-Mars Vim dasa

>

> Jupiter was transiting my 6H from Lagna 9H from my natal Moon Saturn

was in Retro and ans was transiting 4H from Lagna 7H from Moon Non of

these planets were aspeting my Natal 7H (trying to look/understand from

Shri KNR Ji's Double Transit theory)

>

> Yet Marriage took place

>

> i do not see any 2,7, 9,and 11 house siginificance or activation when

my marriage took place...

>

> Kindly educate with your knowledge sharing.. and appreciate your

feedback..

>

> Regards

>

> Chandu2Chill

>

> , " Bhaskar "

bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

>

> > Dear Shri Goelji,

>

> Just yesterday I gave you 2 and a half hours of my time and you gave

me a box of mithai, but what I gave you was worth millions of Rupees

worth knowledge, practical and applicable in reality which unfortunately

you have not registered apparently I am so very sad to say.

>

> I gave you some inputs on your own chart, on transits, on use of

> Transits and Ruling Planets, and also the power of Bhava Chalita.

>

> In this case too, Rahu moves to the 7th house in Bhava Chalita Chart

and so will give results of the 7th house and not the 8th .

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

> > , " vijay.goel "

> > <goyalvj@> wrote:

>

> Dear Vandanaji,

>

> Just to say Rahu in 8th can give marriage in its mahadasa, i am

> providing you the example.

>

> November 3, 1981

> Time: 11:25:00

> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> Place: 76 E 34' 00 " , 27 N 03' 00 "

> Bandikui, India

>

> In this chart of Dhanu Lagna and rasi, rahu is in 8th house and she

> got marrried in Rahu\jupiter antardasa on 25th nov 07.

>

> Jupiter is aspecting 7th house from 11th house.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Best Wishes,

> Vijay Goel

> Jaipur.

>

> > > , Vandna Misra

> > vandana_mishra_91@ wrote:

>

> yes i repeat rahu in 8h can give marriage as it is natural karaka

> for marriage.again i repeat it does not work indepedently already

> mentioned factors has to be taken into consideration.

> before taking any decision about its significance.

>

> Regards.

> VANDANA MISHRA

>

> > > > Dear Vandana ji,

> > > >

> > > > I am amused by your comments.

> > > >

> > > > //now you tell me why you are so concerned for female//

> > > >

> > > > I am really not so much concerned as you tend to feel. But even

if I

> > > > was, as per suppositions, still it does not matter. At least

being a

> > man

> > > > I should be concerned for females, which is quite natural.

> > > >

> > > > //I Suppose you know the answer of what does the Rahu do in 8h

in

> > female

> > > > chart.being a secretive planet a woman may involve in some

illicit

> > > > relationship. she may suffer with some disoder in her private

parts

> > and

> > > > sometimes difficulty in concieving a child .//

> > > >

> > > > Exactly what I sensed you would reeply back, which is why I

asked

> > about

> > > > Rahu in 8th for a female. Now you see, at one point of this

thread

> > you

> > > > have mentioned that 8th house is to be studied for marriage, and

now

> > you

> > > > have written, its for illicit relationships.

> > > >

> > > > So exactly how do we suggest the 8th for marriage ?

> > > >

> > > > Yes males too are supsecptible I fully agree to same. In fact

males

> > are

> > > > the cause of corruption of women in society.

> > > >

> > > > best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Vandna "

> > > > <vandana_mishra_ 91@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected BHASKARJI,

> > > > > I Suppose you know the answer of what does the Rahu do in 8h

in

> > female

> > > > chart.being a secretive planet a woman may involve in some

illicit

> > > > relationship. she may suffer with some disoder in her private

parts

> > and

> > > > sometimes difficulty in concieving a child . BUT it is a very

vague

> > > > reply becoz rahu is a shadowy planet so it does not work

> > indepedently

> > > > for that one has to see placement of its dispositor,its

nakshatra

> > lord

> > > > and its placement in navamsha.then only one can come to any

> > > > conlusion.According to some classic rahu is also a spiritual

planet

> > it

> > > > can help in dhyan and sadhana and some other occult activities

like

> > > > tantra kriya.

> > > > > now you tell me why you are so concerned for female.aren' t

the

> > male

> > > > are not suscepitible to thes traits when rahu is placed in 8h in

> > male

> > > > chart.Of course they can't concieve SO LEAVE THAT PORTION.

> > > > > REGARDS,GOD BLESS.

> > > > > VANDANA MISHRA.

> > > > >

> > > > > like tantra sadhna.

> > > > > But i wonder why woman aren't the male are not prone to above

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

> > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Vandana ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 8th and 12th house also indicate secret physical unions and

> > > > enjoyment of

> > > > > > such pleasures behind closed doors without having a legal

> > signature

> > > > of

> > > > > > marriage. Some KP astrologers also consider the 8th house

for

> > > > marriage

> > > > > > though I may personally not agree with this. It may also

> > indicate

> > > > sex

> > > > > > before marriage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What does Rahu in 8th house signify for a women in her chart

> > > > according

> > > > > > to you?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Vandna

Misra

> > > > > > <vandana_mishra_ 91@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Manojji,

> > > > > > > 8H signify mangalya sukha in female chart so when this

house

> > > > activates

> > > > > > through dasha{,as you yourself mention it sustain marriage }

> > person

> > > > > > > may get married. besides it is sukh bhava of children{4

from

> > 5h}

> > > > to

> > > > > > have childeren one has to get married.12H is bed life

> > happiness.to

> > > > get

> > > > > > that pleasure legally one has to tie knot.isn;t it.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards.

> > > > > > > vandana mishra.

> > > > > > > --- On Tue, 9/22/09, Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@

> > > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga

> > > > Rajyoga-dear

> > > > > > Gopi Jee

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > > > Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 8:17 PM

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Vandana Ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Could you please explain why 8H and 12H signify marriage?

> > Sorry

> > > > for

> > > > > > asking some thing very basic, but, from my understanding it

is

> > > > primarily

> > > > > > 2, 7, 11 and some include 9. I understand the 8H being 2nd

from

> > the

> > > > 7th

> > > > > > can " sustain " marriage, but, can it be used to " denote "

> > marriage?

> > > > Also

> > > > > > 12H is 6th from the 7th, so if 7th denotes the primary house

of

> > > > > > marriage, how is 12H also a house of marriage?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > -Manoj

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Vandna <vandana_mishra_ 91 >

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > > > Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:48:46 PM

> > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga

> > Rajyoga-dear

> > > > Gopi

> > > > > > Jee

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected sreenadhji,

> > > > > > > I am overwhelmed with your detailed explaination, rather i

am

> > > > still

> > > > > > relishing it.just a FEW querries for this inquisitive

mind.you

> > have

> > > > > > mentioned horoscpe having same combination can point to

> > different

> > > > > > stature of individual's life like-married living

happily,married

> > > > > > divorced.... .unmarried sainthood etc.plus you have

mentioned

> > same

> > > > > > planetary combination with changing moon position in context

of

> > > > dasha

> > > > > > sequence can indicate above possibilities- -now what i have

> > > > understood

> > > > > > from above statement is that IT is dasha which decides.now

my

> > querry

> > > > is

> > > > > > -in case of happily married is it possible that bad dasha

never

> > > > comes

> > > > > > not even AD/PD.then at that time how marriage

> > survives?especially

> > > > > > > When IN same planetatry combination another marriage

> > fails.again

> > > > > > supported by same bad dasha.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > in another example of unmarried saint is it possible to

getnot

> > > > even a

> > > > > > single marriage bhava dasha when we have too many houses for

> > > > marriage

> > > > > > 2h,7h,8h,12h sometimes even 5h.lets say no MD but again what

> > about

> > > > > > AD/PD. still that GREAT man escapes from later's clutches?

> > > > > > > ...I STILL WONDER ABOUT THIS CATASTROPHE OF MARITAL

> > COMBINATION.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > WITH DUE REGARDS AND BEST WISHES,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > VANDANA MISHRA

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -- In ancient_indian_ astrology,

" sreesog "

> > > > sreesog@

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Vanadana ji,

> > > > > > > > If a combination indicating marriage possibility is

present,

> > a

> > > > > > > > potential dasa comes, and if the age is ripe then

marriage

> > > > > > could/will

> > > > > > > > happen at that time.

> > > > > > > > * Combination indicating marriage could be even a

benefic in

> > > > 2nd,

> > > > > > 9th,

> > > > > > > > 11th etc

> > > > > > > > * Dasa could be - the dasas of said planets, or its

> > unaflicated

> > > > > > lords,

> > > > > > > > or if the dasa of a planet placed in own house

> > > > > > > > But if there is a combination that indicate the breaking

of

> > a

> > > > > > > > marriage, death of wife etc is present, and if the

> > corresponding

> > > > > > dasa

> > > > > > > > comes, and if the age is ripe (ie. it should be after

the

> > > > marriage -

> > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > only marriage happened then only it can breakdown) then

that

> > > > > > marriage

> > > > > > > > will break due to the cause indicated by the said

> > combination.

> > > > > > > > So the horoscope having the SAME combinations itself can

> > point

> > > > to -

> > > > > > > > * Married and is living happly (The bad dasa never came

and

> > the

> > > > > > result

> > > > > > > > didn't materilized)

> > > > > > > > * Married, Divorced (Both the dasa indicating marriage

as

> > well

> > > > as

> > > > > > > > divorce came)

> > > > > > > > * Unmarrid, but never beame a saint (neither the dasa

> > indicating

> > > > > > > > marriage nor the dasa indicating saint hood)

> > > > > > > > * Unmarried Saint (Dasa indicating marriage did not come

but

> > the

> > > > > > dasa

> > > > > > > > indicating sainthood came)

> > > > > > > > * Married saint (Dasa indicating marriage came, marriage

> > broken

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > became a saint)

> > > > > > > > So ultimatly even though it is the combinations

indicating

> > the

> > > > > > results

> > > > > > > > that GENERATE the results, but it is the dasas which

DELIVER

> > > > them.

> > > > > > So

> > > > > > > > just by looking at the combinations such as a some

malefics

> > in

> > > > 7th

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > 8th etc alone (of course they are important, but) - you

> > cannot

> > > > come

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > the conclusion that the individual is a victim of broken

> > > > marriage or

> > > > > > > > denial of marriage; both are possible. A good astrologer

> > will

> > > > > > therefore

> > > > > > > > check the dasas before deriving the conclusion regarding

> > whether

> > > > it

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > a marriage-happlife, marriage-breakdown, denial of

marriage,

> > > > > > > > bachelor-saint etc.

> > > > > > > > As mentioned earlier the same planetary combination with

> > > > changing

> > > > > > > > moon position (different nakshatra dasa sequences) can

> > indicate

> > > > all

> > > > > > > > these possibilities, and this itself is the beauty of

> > astrology!

> > > > > > > > Love and regards,

> > > > > > > > Sreenadh

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,

Vandna

> > Misra

> > > > > > > > <vandana_mishra_ 91@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > RESPECTED ASTROLOGERS,

> > > > > > > > > Since Gopiji,has given us liberty to discuss his chart

i

> > was

> > > > > > wondering

> > > > > > > > how one can diifferentiate between delay marriage later

> > broken

> > > > down

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > denial in marriage.as in bothï¿½ the cases 7h,12h,2h

and

> > > > karaka

> > > > > > > > venusï¿½has to be afflicted.

> > > > > > > > > With Regards to all,

> > > > > > > > > VANDANA MISHRA

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

September 25, 2009

On the contrary a malefic planet in the 8th will instead break the marriage , as it aspects the 2nd which is the 8th house for the house of marriage which is the 7th.

regards/Bhaskar.

, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote:>> In parts of North India, Rahu is considered as an unqualified marriage giver. People call Rahu as Bahau (or one which gives marriage unconditionally without getting connected to the houses of marriage). Any planet in the 8th house, automatically, makes a connection with the second house and hence become eligible for giving marriage but it is the second house which is important and not the 8th house.> > Regarding Shri Chandu's observation that double transit theory doesnt work in his case, I would request him to provide his birth data so that we can examine it again. Because in my observation, it is rare for the double transit theory to fail. But since he says it doesnt work in his case, lets see it again.> > Vandana Mishra's observation that seventh is "dhyan" and eighth is "samadhi" is a valid observation and it makes it obvious that she is then connected to BVB is some way. > > Seventh house afflictions in case of females does tend to take them towards spirituality.> > regards,> > Mouji>

September 25, 2009

Dear Respected Bhaskar JiHere is his details with me Chandu 2chillji Natal Chart February 10, 1975Time: 10:47:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 75 E 23' 00", 15 N 43' 00" Nargund, Gadag dist, IndiaTithi: Amavasya (Ra) (90.75% left)Vedic Weekday: Monday (Mo)Nakshatra: Sravanam (Mo) (51.69% left)Yoga: Vyatipata (Ra) (21.70% left)Karana: Chatushpada (Mo) (81.49% left)Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Le)rgrds sunil nair , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear chandu 2 Chill,> > Pl give your birth details and we shall check.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > > , "CP" nanna_id2006@> wrote:> >> > Dear Ms. Vandana Ji, Shir Vijay Ji and Shir Bhaskar Ji,> >> > I got married during Rahu - Mars my Rahu is in 8H despositor is Mars.> >> > Using (JHora 7.32) Lahiri and KP Ayanamsa experimenting with TRUE and> MEAN Nodes option and looking at Bhava Chalita RAHU DOES NOT MOVE from> my 8H!!!> >> > Now we can consider this as well Rahu and Mars both signify since> (Rahu is in Mars house) my 1H and 8H when the Vim Dasa was running. Now> see when i got married in 19th Dec 2004> >> > Rahu-Mars Vim dasa> >> > Jupiter was transiting my 6H from Lagna 9H from my natal Moon Saturn> was in Retro and ans was transiting 4H from Lagna 7H from Moon Non of> these planets were aspeting my Natal 7H (trying to look/understand from> Shri KNR Ji's Double Transit theory)> >> > Yet Marriage took place> >> > i do not see any 2,7, 9,and 11 house siginificance or activation when> my marriage took place...> >> > Kindly educate with your knowledge sharing.. and appreciate your> feedback..> >> > Regards> >> > Chandu2Chill> >>

September 25, 2009

Dear Chandu 2 Chill,

Its utter dissapointment for me to note your observation though at least 5000 mails must have already passed on commenting on your Horoscopes by hundreds of astrologers on these forums, but yet you are much away from the truth.What did you learn in last 2 years ??????

If Not Mars then which other planet can give you marriage ?

Please note that Mars is the only planet placed in P.asadha owned by Venus, who signifies the 2nd, 7th and the 11th houses in Your Chart. Venus is placed in 11th and owns 2nd and 7th houses in your Chart.

the above is real astrology, which is very simple and not fooling people with long talks of theroetical bakwass which astrologers on forums who dont know astrology, indulge in.

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear chandu 2 Chill,> > Pl give your birth details and we shall check.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > > , "CP" nanna_id2006@> wrote:> >> > Dear Ms. Vandana Ji, Shir Vijay Ji and Shir Bhaskar Ji,> >> > I got married during Rahu - Mars my Rahu is in 8H despositor is Mars.> >> > Using (JHora 7.32) Lahiri and KP Ayanamsa experimenting with TRUE and> MEAN Nodes option and looking at Bhava Chalita RAHU DOES NOT MOVE from> my 8H!!!> >> > Now we can consider this as well Rahu and Mars both signify since> (Rahu is in Mars house) my 1H and 8H when the Vim Dasa was running. Now> see when i got married in 19th Dec 2004> >> > Rahu-Mars Vim dasa> >> > Jupiter was transiting my 6H from Lagna 9H from my natal Moon Saturn> was in Retro and ans was transiting 4H from Lagna 7H from Moon Non of> these planets were aspeting my Natal 7H (trying to look/understand from> Shri KNR Ji's Double Transit theory)> >> > Yet Marriage took place> >> > i do not see any 2,7, 9,and 11 house siginificance or activation when> my marriage took place...> >> > Kindly educate with your knowledge sharing.. and appreciate your> feedback..> >> > Regards> >> > Chandu2Chill> >> > , "Bhaskar"> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> >> > > Dear Shri Goelji,> >> > Just yesterday I gave you 2 and a half hours of my time and you gave> me a box of mithai, but what I gave you was worth millions of Rupees> worth knowledge, practical and applicable in reality which unfortunately> you have not registered apparently I am so very sad to say.> >> > I gave you some inputs on your own chart, on transits, on use of> > Transits and Ruling Planets, and also the power of Bhava Chalita.> >> > In this case too, Rahu moves to the 7th house in Bhava Chalita Chart> and so will give results of the 7th house and not the 8th .> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> > > , "vijay.goel"> > > <goyalvj@> wrote:> >> > Dear Vandanaji,> >> > Just to say Rahu in 8th can give marriage in its mahadasa, i am> > providing you the example.> >> > November 3, 1981> > Time: 11:25:00> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 76 E 34' 00", 27 N 03' 00"> > Bandikui, India> >> > In this chart of Dhanu Lagna and rasi, rahu is in 8th house and she> > got marrried in Rahu\jupiter antardasa on 25th nov 07.> >> > Jupiter is aspecting 7th house from 11th house.> >> > Thanks,> >> > Best Wishes,> > Vijay Goel> > Jaipur.> >> > > > , Vandna Misra> > > vandana_mishra_91@ wrote:> >> > yes i repeat rahu in 8h can give marriage as it is natural karaka> > for marriage.again i repeat it does not work indepedently already> > mentioned factors has to be taken into consideration.> > before taking any decision about its significance.> >> > Regards.> > VANDANA MISHRA> >> > > > > Dear Vandana ji,> > > > >> > > > > I am amused by your comments.> > > > >> > > > > //now you tell me why you are so concerned for female//> > > > >> > > > > I am really not so much concerned as you tend to feel. But even> if I> > > > > was, as per suppositions, still it does not matter. At least> being a> > > man> > > > > I should be concerned for females, which is quite natural.> > > > >> > > > > //I Suppose you know the answer of what does the Rahu do in 8h> in> > > female> > > > > chart.being a secretive planet a woman may involve in some> illicit> > > > > relationship. she may suffer with some disoder in her private> parts> > > and> > > > > sometimes difficulty in concieving a child .//> > > > >> > > > > Exactly what I sensed you would reeply back, which is why I> asked> > > about> > > > > Rahu in 8th for a female. Now you see, at one point of this> thread> > > you> > > > > have mentioned that 8th house is to be studied for marriage, and> now> > > you> > > > > have written, its for illicit relationships.> > > > >> > > > > So exactly how do we suggest the 8th for marriage ?> > > > >> > > > > Yes males too are supsecptible I fully agree to same. In fact> males> > > are> > > > > the cause of corruption of women in society.> > > > >> > > > > best wishes,> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Vandna"> > > > > <vandana_mishra_ 91@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Respected BHASKARJI,> > > > > > I Suppose you know the answer of what does the Rahu do in 8h> in> > > female> > > > > chart.being a secretive planet a woman may involve in some> illicit> > > > > relationship. she may suffer with some disoder in her private> parts> > > and> > > > > sometimes difficulty in concieving a child . BUT it is a very> vague> > > > > reply becoz rahu is a shadowy planet so it does not work> > > indepedently> > > > > for that one has to see placement of its dispositor,its> nakshatra> > > lord> > > > > and its placement in navamsha.then only one can come to any> > > > > conlusion.According to some classic rahu is also a spiritual> planet> > > it> > > > > can help in dhyan and sadhana and some other occult activities> like> > > > > tantra kriya.> > > > > > now you tell me why you are so concerned for female.aren' t> the> > > male> > > > > are not suscepitible to thes traits when rahu is placed in 8h in> > > male> > > > > chart.Of course they can't concieve SO LEAVE THAT PORTION.> > > > > > REGARDS,GOD BLESS.> > > > > > VANDANA MISHRA.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > like tantra sadhna.> > > > > > But i wonder why woman aren't the male are not prone to above> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Vandana ji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 8th and 12th house also indicate secret physical unions and> > > > > enjoyment of> > > > > > > such pleasures behind closed doors without having a legal> > > signature> > > > > of> > > > > > > marriage. Some KP astrologers also consider the 8th house> for> > > > > marriage> > > > > > > though I may personally not agree with this. It may also> > > indicate> > > > > sex> > > > > > > before marriage.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > What does Rahu in 8th house signify for a women in her chart> > > > > according> > > > > > > to you?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Vandna> Misra> > > > > > > <vandana_mishra_ 91@> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Manojji,> > > > > > > > 8H signify mangalya sukha in female chart so when this> house> > > > > activates> > > > > > > through dasha{,as you yourself mention it sustain marriage }> > > person> > > > > > > > may get married. besides it is sukh bhava of children{4> from> > > 5h}> > > > > to> > > > > > > have childeren one has to get married.12H is bed life> > > happiness.to> > > > > get> > > > > > > that pleasure legally one has to tie knot.isn;t it.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards.> > > > > > > > vandana mishra.> > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 9/22/09, Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@> > > > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga> > > > > Rajyoga-dear> > > > > > > Gopi Jee> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 8:17 PM> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Vandana Ji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Could you please explain why 8H and 12H signify marriage?> > > Sorry> > > > > for> > > > > > > asking some thing very basic, but, from my understanding it> is> > > > > primarily> > > > > > > 2, 7, 11 and some include 9. I understand the 8H being 2nd> from> > > the> > > > > 7th> > > > > > > can "sustain" marriage, but, can it be used to "denote"> > > marriage?> > > > > Also> > > > > > > 12H is 6th from the 7th, so if 7th denotes the primary house> of> > > > > > > marriage, how is 12H also a house of marriage?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > -Manoj> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Vandna <vandana_mishra_ 91 >> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:48:46 PM> > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga> > > Rajyoga-dear> > > > > Gopi> > > > > > > Jee> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Respected sreenadhji,> > > > > > > > I am overwhelmed with your detailed explaination, rather i> am> > > > > still> > > > > > > relishing it.just a FEW querries for this inquisitive> mind.you> > > have> > > > > > > mentioned horoscpe having same combination can point to> > > different> > > > > > > stature of individual's life like-married living> happily,married> > > > > > > divorced.... .unmarried sainthood etc.plus you have> mentioned> > > same> > > > > > > planetary combination with changing moon position in context> of> > > > > dasha> > > > > > > sequence can indicate above possibilities- -now what i have> > > > > understood> > > > > > > from above statement is that IT is dasha which decides.now> my> > > querry> > > > > is> > > > > > > -in case of happily married is it possible that bad dasha> never> > > > > comes> > > > > > > not even AD/PD.then at that time how marriage> > > survives?especially> > > > > > > > When IN same planetatry combination another marriage> > > fails.again> > > > > > > supported by same bad dasha.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > in another example of unmarried saint is it possible to> getnot> > > > > even a> > > > > > > single marriage bhava dasha when we have too many houses for> > > > > marriage> > > > > > > 2h,7h,8h,12h sometimes even 5h.lets say no MD but again what> > > about> > > > > > > AD/PD. still that GREAT man escapes from later's clutches?> > > > > > > > ...I STILL WONDER ABOUT THIS CATASTROPHE OF MARITAL> > > COMBINATION.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > WITH DUE REGARDS AND BEST WISHES,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > VANDANA MISHRA> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > -- In ancient_indian_ astrology,> "sreesog"> > > > > sreesog@> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Vanadana ji,> > > > > > > > > If a combination indicating marriage possibility is> present,> > > a> > > > > > > > > potential dasa comes, and if the age is ripe then> marriage> > > > > > > could/will> > > > > > > > > happen at that time.> > > > > > > > > * Combination indicating marriage could be even a> benefic in> > > > > 2nd,> > > > > > > 9th,> > > > > > > > > 11th etc> > > > > > > > > * Dasa could be - the dasas of said planets, or its> > > unaflicated> > > > > > > lords,> > > > > > > > > or if the dasa of a planet placed in own house> > > > > > > > > But if there is a combination that indicate the breaking> of> > > a> > > > > > > > > marriage, death of wife etc is present, and if the> > > corresponding> > > > > > > dasa> > > > > > > > > comes, and if the age is ripe (ie. it should be after> the> > > > > marriage -> > > > > > > if> > > > > > > > > only marriage happened then only it can breakdown) then> that> > > > > > > marriage> > > > > > > > > will break due to the cause indicated by the said> > > combination.> > > > > > > > > So the horoscope having the SAME combinations itself can> > > point> > > > > to -> > > > > > > > > * Married and is living happly (The bad dasa never came> and> > > the> > > > > > > result> > > > > > > > > didn't materilized)> > > > > > > > > * Married, Divorced (Both the dasa indicating marriage> as> > > well> > > > > as> > > > > > > > > divorce came)> > > > > > > > > * Unmarrid, but never beame a saint (neither the dasa> > > indicating> > > > > > > > > marriage nor the dasa indicating saint hood)> > > > > > > > > * Unmarried Saint (Dasa indicating marriage did not come> but> > > the> > > > > > > dasa> > > > > > > > > indicating sainthood came)> > > > > > > > > * Married saint (Dasa indicating marriage came, marriage> > > broken> > > > > and> > > > > > > > > became a saint)> > > > > > > > > So ultimatly even though it is the combinations> indicating> > > the> > > > > > > results> > > > > > > > > that GENERATE the results, but it is the dasas which> DELIVER> > > > > them.> > > > > > > So> > > > > > > > > just by looking at the combinations such as a some> malefics> > > in> > > > > 7th> > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > 8th etc alone (of course they are important, but) - you> > > cannot> > > > > come> > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > the conclusion that the individual is a victim of broken> > > > > marriage or> > > > > > > > > denial of marriage; both are possible. A good astrologer> > > will> > > > > > > therefore> > > > > > > > > check the dasas before deriving the conclusion regarding> > > whether> > > > > it> > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > a marriage-happlife, marriage-breakdown, denial of> marriage,> > > > > > > > > bachelor-saint etc.> > > > > > > > > As mentioned earlier the same planetary combination with> > > > > changing> > > > > > > > > moon position (different nakshatra dasa sequences) can> > > indicate> > > > > all> > > > > > > > > these possibilities, and this itself is the beauty of> > > astrology!> > > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > > Sreenadh> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> Vandna> > > Misra> > > > > > > > > <vandana_mishra_ 91@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > RESPECTED ASTROLOGERS,> > > > > > > > > > Since Gopiji,has given us liberty to discuss his chart> i> > > was> > > > > > > wondering> > > > > > > > > how one can diifferentiate between delay marriage later> > > broken> > > > > down> > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > denial in marriage.as in bothï¿½ the cases 7h,12h,2h> and> > > > > karaka> > > > > > > > > venusï¿½has to be afflicted.> > > > > > > > > > With Regards to all,> > > > > > > > > > VANDANA MISHRA> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

September 25, 2009

Dear Shri Sunil Nairji,

Thanks very much for taking the pains and being so very active. I just

made a search and got these details.

Please check my reply to Chandu 2 chill, which is simple astrology in

2-3 lines for I dont know much more than that like so many other great

astrologers on these Groups.

thanks and nice to be in touch with you always,

love and regards,

Bhaskar.

, " astro_tellerkerala "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

> Dear Respected Bhaskar Ji

>

> Here is his details with me

>

> Chandu 2chillji Natal Chart

>

> February 10, 1975

> Time: 10:47:00

> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> Place: 75 E 23' 00 " , 15 N 43' 00 "

> Nargund, Gadag dist, India

>

> Tithi: Amavasya (Ra) (90.75% left)

> Vedic Weekday: Monday (Mo)

> Nakshatra: Sravanam (Mo) (51.69% left)

> Yoga: Vyatipata (Ra) (21.70% left)

> Karana: Chatushpada (Mo) (81.49% left)

> Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Le)

>

> rgrds sunil nair

>

> , " Bhaskar "

> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear chandu 2 Chill,

> >

> > Pl give your birth details and we shall check.

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> > , " CP " nanna_id2006@

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ms. Vandana Ji, Shir Vijay Ji and Shir Bhaskar Ji,

> > >

> > > I got married during Rahu - Mars my Rahu is in 8H despositor is

> Mars.

> > >

> > > Using (JHora 7.32) Lahiri and KP Ayanamsa experimenting with TRUE

> and

> > MEAN Nodes option and looking at Bhava Chalita RAHU DOES NOT MOVE

from

> > my 8H!!!

> > >

> > > Now we can consider this as well Rahu and Mars both signify since

> > (Rahu is in Mars house) my 1H and 8H when the Vim Dasa was running.

> Now

> > see when i got married in 19th Dec 2004

> > >

> > > Rahu-Mars Vim dasa

> > >

> > > Jupiter was transiting my 6H from Lagna 9H from my natal Moon

Saturn

> > was in Retro and ans was transiting 4H from Lagna 7H from Moon Non

of

> > these planets were aspeting my Natal 7H (trying to look/understand

> from

> > Shri KNR Ji's Double Transit theory)

> > >

> > > Yet Marriage took place

> > >

> > > i do not see any 2,7, 9,and 11 house siginificance or activation

> when

> > my marriage took place...

> > >

> > > Kindly educate with your knowledge sharing.. and appreciate your

> > feedback..

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Chandu2Chill

> > >

> >

>

September 25, 2009

One cannot classify anything as a thumb rule. A malefic in the 8th house can indeed be detrimental for marriage as it would cause troubles in the longeivity of a person. But there will be cases where malefics in the 8th house would have given marriage and the marriage would have survived too.

Try this chart. 1-11-1963, 07.42, Darjeeling. Married late but the marriage is surviving.

I will be able to participate further in this debate from Tuesday onwards. Till then, celebrate festivities of Navami and Dusshera and good wishes to everyone on these festivals in northern part of India.

regards,

Mouji--- On Fri, 9/25/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga-dear Gopi Jee Date: Friday, September 25, 2009, 5:14 PM

On the contrary a malefic planet in the 8th will instead break the marriage , as it aspects the 2nd which is the 8th house for the house of marriage which is the 7th.

regards/Bhaskar.

ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote:>> In parts of North India, Rahu is considered as an unqualified marriage giver. People call Rahu as Bahau (or one which gives marriage unconditionally without getting connected to the houses of marriage). Any planet in the 8th house, automatically, makes a connection with the second house and hence become eligible for giving marriage but it is the second house which is important and not the 8th house.> > Regarding Shri Chandu's observation that double transit theory doesnt work in his case, I would request him to provide his birth data so that we can examine it again. Because in my observation, it is rare for the double transit theory to fail. But since he says it doesnt work in his case, lets see it again.> > Vandana Mishra's observation that seventh is "dhyan" and eighth is "samadhi" is a valid

observation and it makes it obvious that she is then connected to BVB is some way. > > Seventh house afflictions in case of females does tend to take them towards spirituality.> > regards,> > Mouji>

September 25, 2009

Yes , which is why I dont believe in genaralised rules and observations

picked from vague charts which do not happen or match in all charts.

I know that 8th also gives wealth, poverty,marriage, divorce,Love,

enjoyment ,sadness, sainthood, pervertedness, lossess and profits too.

Which is why I dont accept that 8th gives marriage.

regards/Bhaskar.

, Manoj Kumar

<mouji99 wrote:

>

> One cannot classify anything as a thumb rule. A malefic in the 8th

house can indeed be detrimental for marriage as it would cause troubles

in the longeivity of a person. But there will be cases where malefics in

the 8th house would have given marriage and the marriage would have

survived too.

>

> Try this chart. 1-11-1963, 07.42, Darjeeling. Married late but the

marriage is surviving.

>

> I will be able to participate further in this debate from Tuesday

onwards. Till then, celebrate festivities of Navami and Dusshera and

good wishes to everyone on these festivals in northern part of India.

>

> regards,

>

> Mouji

>

> --- On Fri, 9/25/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish

> Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga-dear Gopi

Jee

>

> Friday, September 25, 2009, 5:14 PM

>

On the contrary a malefic planet in the 8th will instead break the

marriage , as it aspects the 2nd which is the 8th house for the house of

marriage which is the 7th.

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar

mouji99@ wrote:

> >

> > In parts of North India, Rahu is considered as an unqualified

marriage giver. People call Rahu as Bahau (or one which gives marriage

unconditionally without getting connected to the houses of marriage).

Any planet in the 8th house, automatically, makes a connection with the

second house and hence become eligible for giving marriage but it is the

second house which is important and not the 8th house.

> >

> > Regarding Shri Chandu's observation that double transit theory

doesnt work in his case, I would request him to provide his birth data

so that we can examine it again. Because in my observation, it is rare

for the double transit theory to fail. But since he says it doesnt work

in his case, lets see it again.

> >

> > Vandana Mishra's observation that seventh is " dhyan " and eighth is

" samadhi " is a valid observation and it makes it obvious that she is

then connected to BVB is some way.

> >

> > Seventh house afflictions in case of females does tend to take them

towards spirituality.

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > Mouji

> >

>

September 25, 2009

Dear manoj Ji rahu is considered as Unconditional marriage giver in kerala astrology also and many cases at times it may b with some sort of controversy or some not so regularity in such marriages is observed by me and it is my personal view and nothing to do with traditional Knowledge in chandu s case rahu and mars Both givn amsa in 7 th House or tulamsa and there is other pointers too and as regrds to double transit etc i am yet to see provided the date of marriage is available the KN rao principle is based on brigu nadi and i think it will work in any case ( but has to see retrogression also happened to major planets ) if my memory is correct chandu ji s marriage happened in aquarious solar month when sun was transitting in kumbha rasi ( so jup is just finished vakra may b/or abt to b vakra )rgrds sunil nair , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote:>> In parts of North India, Rahu is considered as an unqualified marriage giver. People call Rahu as Bahau (or one which gives marriage unconditionally without getting connected to the houses of marriage). Any planet in the 8th house, automatically, makes a connection with the second house and hence become eligible for giving marriage but it is the second house which is important and not the 8th house.> > Regarding Shri Chandu's observation that double transit theory doesnt work in his case, I would request him to provide his birth data so that we can examine it again. Because in my observation, it is rare for the double transit theory to fail. But since he says it doesnt work in his case, lets see it again.> > Vandana Mishra's observation that seventh is "dhyan" and eighth is "samadhi" is a valid observation and it makes it obvious that she is then connected to BVB is some way. > > Seventh house afflictions in case of females does tend to take them towards spirituality.> > regards,> > Mouji>

September 25, 2009

Dear respected bhaskar Ji if u think i was showing over enthusiasm i dont hav anything to say but the truth is i was having chandu ji s data and accidently i was seeing it and so i cud able to post immdtly And i do agree the nakshtra dispositors theory and being Lagna Lord is self and without self how ny thing is possible in this world and hence has marriage giving properties .In kerala astrology depending on age and other factors various pointers r givn and even the dasa will show wheter such an event will survive too rgrds sunil nair , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear Shri Sunil Nairji,> > Thanks very much for taking the pains and being so very active. I just> made a search and got these details.> > Please check my reply to Chandu 2 chill, which is simple astrology in> 2-3 lines for I dont know much more than that like so many other great> astrologers on these Groups.> > thanks and nice to be in touch with you always,> > love and regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > , "astro_tellerkerala"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> >> > Dear Respected Bhaskar Ji> >> > Here is his details with me> >> > Chandu 2chillji Natal Chart> >> > February 10, 1975> > Time: 10:47:00> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 75 E 23' 00", 15 N 43' 00"> > Nargund, Gadag dist, India> >> > Tithi: Amavasya (Ra) (90.75% left)> > Vedic Weekday: Monday (Mo)> > Nakshatra: Sravanam (Mo) (51.69% left)> > Yoga: Vyatipata (Ra) (21.70% left)> > Karana: Chatushpada (Mo) (81.49% left)> > Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Le)> >> > rgrds sunil nair> >> >> >> > , "Bhaskar"> > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear chandu 2 Chill,> > >> > > Pl give your birth details and we shall check.> > >> > > regards/Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > > , "CP" nanna_id2006@> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Ms. Vandana Ji, Shir Vijay Ji and Shir Bhaskar Ji,> > > >> > > > I got married during Rahu - Mars my Rahu is in 8H despositor is> > Mars.> > > >> > > > Using (JHora 7.32) Lahiri and KP Ayanamsa experimenting with TRUE> > and> > > MEAN Nodes option and looking at Bhava Chalita RAHU DOES NOT MOVE> from> > > my 8H!!!> > > >> > > > Now we can consider this as well Rahu and Mars both signify since> > > (Rahu is in Mars house) my 1H and 8H when the Vim Dasa was running.> > Now> > > see when i got married in 19th Dec 2004> > > >> > > > Rahu-Mars Vim dasa> > > >> > > > Jupiter was transiting my 6H from Lagna 9H from my natal Moon> Saturn> > > was in Retro and ans was transiting 4H from Lagna 7H from Moon Non> of> > > these planets were aspeting my Natal 7H (trying to look/understand> > from> > > Shri KNR Ji's Double Transit theory)> > > >> > > > Yet Marriage took place> > > >> > > > i do not see any 2,7, 9,and 11 house siginificance or activation> > when> > > my marriage took place...> > > >> > > > Kindly educate with your knowledge sharing.. and appreciate your> > > feedback..> > > >> > > > Regards> > > >> > > > Chandu2Chill> > > >> > >> >>

September 25, 2009

On a cursory glance at the horoscope, Mars also happens to be the seventh lord of navamsha and Rahu is placed in the seventh house in navamsha. Qualified enough to give marriage.

An observation.

regards,

Mouji--- On Fri, 9/25/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga-dear Gopi Jee Date: Friday, September 25, 2009, 5:24 PM

Dear Chandu 2 Chill,

Its utter dissapointment for me to note your observation though at least 5000 mails must have already passed on commenting on your Horoscopes by hundreds of astrologers on these forums, but yet you are much away from the truth.What did you learn in last 2 years ??????

If Not Mars then which other planet can give you marriage ?

Please note that Mars is the only planet placed in P.asadha owned by Venus, who signifies the 2nd, 7th and the 11th houses in Your Chart. Venus is placed in 11th and owns 2nd and 7th houses in your Chart.

the above is real astrology, which is very simple and not fooling people with long talks of theroetical bakwass which astrologers on forums who dont know astrology, indulge in.

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> > Dear chandu 2 Chill,> > Pl give your birth details and we shall check.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "CP" nanna_id2006@> wrote:> >> > Dear Ms. Vandana Ji, Shir Vijay Ji and Shir Bhaskar Ji,> >> > I got married during Rahu - Mars my Rahu is in 8H despositor is Mars.> >> > Using (JHora 7.32) Lahiri and KP Ayanamsa experimenting with TRUE and> MEAN Nodes option and looking at Bhava Chalita RAHU DOES NOT MOVE from> my 8H!!!> >> > Now we can consider this as well Rahu and Mars both signify since> (Rahu is in Mars house) my 1H and 8H when the Vim Dasa was running. Now> see when i got married in 19th Dec 2004>

>> > Rahu-Mars Vim dasa> >> > Jupiter was transiting my 6H from Lagna 9H from my natal Moon Saturn> was in Retro and ans was transiting 4H from Lagna 7H from Moon Non of> these planets were aspeting my Natal 7H (trying to look/understand from> Shri KNR Ji's Double Transit theory)> >> > Yet Marriage took place> >> > i do not see any 2,7, 9,and 11 house siginificance or activation when> my marriage took place...> >> > Kindly educate with your knowledge sharing.. and appreciate your> feedback..> >> > Regards> >> > Chandu2Chill> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> >> > > Dear Shri Goelji,> >> > Just yesterday I gave you 2 and a half hours of my time and

you gave> me a box of mithai, but what I gave you was worth millions of Rupees> worth knowledge, practical and applicable in reality which unfortunately> you have not registered apparently I am so very sad to say.> >> > I gave you some inputs on your own chart, on transits, on use of> > Transits and Ruling Planets, and also the power of Bhava Chalita.> >> > In this case too, Rahu moves to the 7th house in Bhava Chalita Chart> and so will give results of the 7th house and not the 8th .> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel"> > > <goyalvj@> wrote:> >> > Dear Vandanaji,> >> > Just to say Rahu in 8th can give marriage in its mahadasa, i am> > providing you the example.> >> > November 3,

1981> > Time: 11:25:00> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 76 E 34' 00", 27 N 03' 00"> > Bandikui, India> >> > In this chart of Dhanu Lagna and rasi, rahu is in 8th house and she> > got marrried in Rahu\jupiter antardasa on 25th nov 07.> >> > Jupiter is aspecting 7th house from 11th house.> >> > Thanks,> >> > Best Wishes,> > Vijay Goel> > Jaipur.> >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Vandna Misra> > > vandana_mishra_ 91@ wrote:> >> > yes i repeat rahu in 8h can give marriage as it is natural karaka> > for marriage.again i repeat it does not work indepedently already> > mentioned factors has to be taken into consideration.> > before taking any decision about its significance.>

>> > Regards.> > VANDANA MISHRA> >> > > > > Dear Vandana ji,> > > > >> > > > > I am amused by your comments.> > > > >> > > > > //now you tell me why you are so concerned for female//> > > > >> > > > > I am really not so much concerned as you tend to feel. But even> if I> > > > > was, as per suppositions, still it does not matter. At least> being a> > > man> > > > > I should be concerned for females, which is quite natural.> > > > >> > > > > //I Suppose you know the answer of what does the Rahu do in 8h> in> > > female> > > > > chart.being a secretive planet a woman may involve in some> illicit> > > > > relationship. she may

suffer with some disoder in her private> parts> > > and> > > > > sometimes difficulty in concieving a child .//> > > > >> > > > > Exactly what I sensed you would reeply back, which is why I> asked> > > about> > > > > Rahu in 8th for a female. Now you see, at one point of this> thread> > > you> > > > > have mentioned that 8th house is to be studied for marriage, and> now> > > you> > > > > have written, its for illicit relationships.> > > > >> > > > > So exactly how do we suggest the 8th for marriage ?> > > > >> > > > > Yes males too are supsecptible I fully agree to same. In fact> males> > > are> > > > > the cause of corruption of women in

society.> > > > >> > > > > best wishes,> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Vandna"> > > > > <vandana_mishra_ 91@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Respected BHASKARJI,> > > > > > I Suppose you know the answer of what does the Rahu do in 8h> in> > > female> > > > > chart.being a secretive planet a woman may involve in some> illicit> > > > > relationship. she may suffer with some disoder in her private> parts> > > and> > > > > sometimes difficulty in concieving a child . BUT it is a very> vague> > > > > reply becoz rahu is a shadowy planet so it does not work>

> > indepedently> > > > > for that one has to see placement of its dispositor,its> nakshatra> > > lord> > > > > and its placement in navamsha.then only one can come to any> > > > > conlusion.According to some classic rahu is also a spiritual> planet> > > it> > > > > can help in dhyan and sadhana and some other occult activities> like> > > > > tantra kriya.> > > > > > now you tell me why you are so concerned for female.aren' t> the> > > male> > > > > are not suscepitible to thes traits when rahu is placed in 8h in> > > male> > > > > chart.Of course they can't concieve SO LEAVE THAT PORTION.> > > > > > REGARDS,GOD BLESS.> > > > > > VANDANA MISHRA.> > > > >

>> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > like tantra sadhna.> > > > > > But i wonder why woman aren't the male are not prone to above> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Vandana ji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 8th and 12th house also

indicate secret physical unions and> > > > > enjoyment of> > > > > > > such pleasures behind closed doors without having a legal> > > signature> > > > > of> > > > > > > marriage. Some KP astrologers also consider the 8th house> for> > > > > marriage> > > > > > > though I may personally not agree with this. It may also> > > indicate> > > > > sex> > > > > > > before marriage.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > What does Rahu in 8th house signify for a women in her chart> > > > > according> > > > > > > to you?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > >> > > > >

> >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Vandna> Misra> > > > > > > <vandana_mishra_ 91@> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Manojji,> > > > > > > > 8H signify mangalya sukha in female chart so when this> house> > > > > activates> > > > > > > through dasha{,as you yourself mention it sustain marriage }> > > person> > > > > > > > may get married. besides it is sukh bhava of children{4> from> > > 5h}> > > > > to> > > > > > > have childeren one has to get married.12H is bed life> > > happiness.to> > > > >

get> > > > > > > that pleasure legally one has to tie knot.isn;t it.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards.> > > > > > > > vandana mishra.> > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 9/22/09, Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@> > > > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga> > > > > Rajyoga-dear> > > > > > > Gopi Jee> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 8:17 PM> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Vandana Ji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Could you please explain why 8H and 12H signify marriage?> > > Sorry> > > > > for> > > > > > > asking some thing very basic, but, from my understanding it> is> > > > > primarily> > > > > > > 2, 7, 11 and some include 9. I understand the 8H being 2nd> from> > > the> > > > > 7th> > > > > > > can "sustain" marriage, but, can it be used to

"denote"> > > marriage?> > > > > Also> > > > > > > 12H is 6th from the 7th, so if 7th denotes the primary house> of> > > > > > > marriage, how is 12H also a house of marriage?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > -Manoj> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Vandna <vandana_mishra_ 91 >> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 22,

2009 12:48:46 PM> > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga> > > Rajyoga-dear> > > > > Gopi> > > > > > > Jee> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Respected sreenadhji,> > > > > > > > I am overwhelmed with your detailed explaination, rather i> am> > > > > still> > > > > > > relishing it.just a FEW querries for this inquisitive> mind.you> > > have> > > > > > > mentioned horoscpe having same combination can point to> > > different> > > > > > > stature of individual's life like-married living> happily,married> > > > > > >

divorced.... .unmarried sainthood etc.plus you have> mentioned> > > same> > > > > > > planetary combination with changing moon position in context> of> > > > > dasha> > > > > > > sequence can indicate above possibilities- -now what i have> > > > > understood> > > > > > > from above statement is that IT is dasha which decides.now> my> > > querry> > > > > is> > > > > > > -in case of happily married is it possible that bad dasha> never> > > > > comes> > > > > > > not even AD/PD.then at that time how marriage> > > survives?especially> > > > > > > > When IN same planetatry combination another marriage> > > fails.again> > > > > > >

supported by same bad dasha.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > in another example of unmarried saint is it possible to> getnot> > > > > even a> > > > > > > single marriage bhava dasha when we have too many houses for> > > > > marriage> > > > > > > 2h,7h,8h,12h sometimes even 5h.lets say no MD but again what> > > about> > > > > > > AD/PD. still that GREAT man escapes from later's clutches?> > > > > > > > ...I STILL WONDER ABOUT THIS CATASTROPHE OF MARITAL> > > COMBINATION.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > WITH DUE REGARDS AND BEST WISHES,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > VANDANA MISHRA> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > -- In ancient_indian_ astrology,> "sreesog"> > > > > sreesog@> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Vanadana ji,> > > > > > > > > If a combination indicating marriage possibility is> present,> > > a> > > > > > > > > potential dasa comes, and if the age is ripe then> marriage> > > > > > > could/will> > > > > > > > > happen at that time.> > > > > > > > > * Combination indicating marriage could be even a> benefic in> > > > > 2nd,> > > > > > > 9th,> > > > > > > > > 11th etc> > > > >

> > > > * Dasa could be - the dasas of said planets, or its> > > unaflicated> > > > > > > lords,> > > > > > > > > or if the dasa of a planet placed in own house> > > > > > > > > But if there is a combination that indicate the breaking> of> > > a> > > > > > > > > marriage, death of wife etc is present, and if the> > > corresponding> > > > > > > dasa> > > > > > > > > comes, and if the age is ripe (ie. it should be after> the> > > > > marriage -> > > > > > > if> > > > > > > > > only marriage happened then only it can breakdown) then> that> > > > > > > marriage> > > > > > > > > will

break due to the cause indicated by the said> > > combination.> > > > > > > > > So the horoscope having the SAME combinations itself can> > > point> > > > > to -> > > > > > > > > * Married and is living happly (The bad dasa never came> and> > > the> > > > > > > result> > > > > > > > > didn't materilized)> > > > > > > > > * Married, Divorced (Both the dasa indicating marriage> as> > > well> > > > > as> > > > > > > > > divorce came)> > > > > > > > > * Unmarrid, but never beame a saint (neither the dasa> > > indicating> > > > > > > > > marriage nor the dasa indicating saint hood)> > > >

> > > > > * Unmarried Saint (Dasa indicating marriage did not come> but> > > the> > > > > > > dasa> > > > > > > > > indicating sainthood came)> > > > > > > > > * Married saint (Dasa indicating marriage came, marriage> > > broken> > > > > and> > > > > > > > > became a saint)> > > > > > > > > So ultimatly even though it is the combinations> indicating> > > the> > > > > > > results> > > > > > > > > that GENERATE the results, but it is the dasas which> DELIVER> > > > > them.> > > > > > > So> > > > > > > > > just by looking at the combinations such as a some> malefics> >

> in> > > > > 7th> > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > 8th etc alone (of course they are important, but) - you> > > cannot> > > > > come> > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > the conclusion that the individual is a victim of broken> > > > > marriage or> > > > > > > > > denial of marriage; both are possible. A good astrologer> > > will> > > > > > > therefore> > > > > > > > > check the dasas before deriving the conclusion regarding> > > whether> > > > > it> > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > a marriage-happlife, marriage-breakdown, denial of> marriage,> > > > > > >

> > bachelor-saint etc.> > > > > > > > > As mentioned earlier the same planetary combination with> > > > > changing> > > > > > > > > moon position (different nakshatra dasa sequences) can> > > indicate> > > > > all> > > > > > > > > these possibilities, and this itself is the beauty of> > > astrology!> > > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > > Sreenadh> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> Vandna> > > Misra> > > > > > > > > <vandana_mishra_ 91@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >

RESPECTED ASTROLOGERS,> > > > > > > > > > Since Gopiji,has given us liberty to discuss his chart> i> > > was> > > > > > > wondering> > > > > > > > > how one can diifferentiate between delay marriage later> > > broken> > > > > down> > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > denial in marriage.as in bothï¿½ the cases 7h,12h,2h> and> > > > > karaka> > > > > > > > > venusï¿½has to be afflicted.> > > > > > > > > > With Regards to all,> > > > > > > > > > VANDANA MISHRA> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >

>> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

September 25, 2009

Learned Gurujans,

8 th house is more than just influencing marriage. There r other jobs for the house to do.

So there is chance for that other task to be activated.

And we are digressing from Shri Gopijee's neechabhanga rajyoga thread.

In reply to Vandanaji, he seems to have acknowledge other types of changes in life.

The main question we should be asking is why Gopijee had X changes while other guys have Y changes.

There must some indication in Gopijee's chart to explain his particular path.

Is it AK, Is it the D9 or the Natal Aspects.

Similarly I wanted Bhaskarji's take on Lajmiji's prediction of his ( Bhaskarji's own ) Moksha path being strong.

Thanks & RegardsChiranjiv Mehta--- On Fri, 25/9/09, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote:

Manoj Kumar <mouji99Re: Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga-dear Gopi Jee Date: Friday, 25 September, 2009, 5:39 PM

One cannot classify anything as a thumb rule. A malefic in the 8th house can indeed be detrimental for marriage as it would cause troubles in the longeivity of a person. But there will be cases where malefics in the 8th house would have given marriage and the marriage would have survived too.

Try this chart. 1-11-1963, 07.42, Darjeeling. Married late but the marriage is surviving.

I will be able to participate further in this debate from Tuesday onwards. Till then, celebrate festivities of Navami and Dusshera and good wishes to everyone on these festivals in northern part of India.

regards,

Mouji--- On Fri, 9/25/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga-dear Gopi Jeeancient_indian_ astrologyFriday, September 25, 2009, 5:14 PM

On the contrary a malefic planet in the 8th will instead break the marriage , as it aspects the 2nd which is the 8th house for the house of marriage which is the 7th.

regards/Bhaskar.

ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote:>> In parts of North India, Rahu is considered as an unqualified marriage giver. People call Rahu as Bahau (or one which gives marriage unconditionally without getting connected to the houses of marriage). Any planet in the 8th house, automatically, makes a connection with the second house and hence become eligible for giving marriage but it is the second house which is important and not the 8th house.> > Regarding Shri Chandu's observation that double transit theory doesnt work in his case, I would request him to provide his birth data so that we can examine it again. Because in my observation, it is rare for the double transit theory to fail. But since he says it doesnt work in his case, lets see it again.> > Vandana Mishra's observation that seventh is "dhyan" and eighth is "samadhi" is a valid

observation and it makes it obvious that she is then connected to BVB is some way. > > Seventh house afflictions in case of females does tend to take them towards spirituality.> > regards,> > Mouji>

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September 25, 2009

Dear Shri Sunil Nair ji,

I never excersise the mind more than necessary neither astrologically

nor otherwise. In your case too, let me tell you, even if you come with

a big sword towards me, I will not think otherwise. You will always

remain a good friend and contact for me, no matter what. Therefore I

will never even in dreams think anything what is inappropriate with

reference towards you.

Love and regards,

Bhaskar.

, " astro_tellerkerala "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

> Dear respected bhaskar Ji

>

> if u think i was showing over enthusiasm i dont hav anything to say

> but the truth is i was having chandu ji s data and accidently i was

> seeing it and so i cud able to post immdtly

>

> And i do agree the nakshtra dispositors theory and being Lagna Lord is

> self and without self how ny thing is possible in this world and hence

> has marriage giving properties .

> In kerala astrology depending on age and other factors various

pointers

> r givn and even the dasa will show wheter such an event will survive

too

>

> rgrds sunil nair

>

> , " Bhaskar "

> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shri Sunil Nairji,

> >

> > Thanks very much for taking the pains and being so very active. I

just

> > made a search and got these details.

> >

> > Please check my reply to Chandu 2 chill, which is simple astrology

in

> > 2-3 lines for I dont know much more than that like so many other

great

> > astrologers on these Groups.

> >

> > thanks and nice to be in touch with you always,

> >

> > love and regards,

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > ,

" astro_tellerkerala "

> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Respected Bhaskar Ji

> > >

> > > Here is his details with me

> > >

> > > Chandu 2chillji Natal Chart

> > >

> > > February 10, 1975

> > > Time: 10:47:00

> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > Place: 75 E 23' 00 " , 15 N 43' 00 "

> > > Nargund, Gadag dist, India

> > >

> > > Tithi: Amavasya (Ra) (90.75% left)

> > > Vedic Weekday: Monday (Mo)

> > > Nakshatra: Sravanam (Mo) (51.69% left)

> > > Yoga: Vyatipata (Ra) (21.70% left)

> > > Karana: Chatushpada (Mo) (81.49% left)

> > > Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Le)

> > >

> > > rgrds sunil nair

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear chandu 2 Chill,

> > > >

> > > > Pl give your birth details and we shall check.

> > > >

> > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > , " CP "

> nanna_id2006@

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ms. Vandana Ji, Shir Vijay Ji and Shir Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I got married during Rahu - Mars my Rahu is in 8H despositor

is

> > > Mars.

> > > > >

> > > > > Using (JHora 7.32) Lahiri and KP Ayanamsa experimenting with

> TRUE

> > > and

> > > > MEAN Nodes option and looking at Bhava Chalita RAHU DOES NOT

MOVE

> > from

> > > > my 8H!!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Now we can consider this as well Rahu and Mars both signify

> since

> > > > (Rahu is in Mars house) my 1H and 8H when the Vim Dasa was

> running.

> > > Now

> > > > see when i got married in 19th Dec 2004

> > > > >

> > > > > Rahu-Mars Vim dasa

> > > > >

> > > > > Jupiter was transiting my 6H from Lagna 9H from my natal Moon

> > Saturn

> > > > was in Retro and ans was transiting 4H from Lagna 7H from Moon

Non

> > of

> > > > these planets were aspeting my Natal 7H (trying to

look/understand

> > > from

> > > > Shri KNR Ji's Double Transit theory)

> > > > >

> > > > > Yet Marriage took place

> > > > >

> > > > > i do not see any 2,7, 9,and 11 house siginificance or

activation

> > > when

> > > > my marriage took place...

> > > > >

> > > > > Kindly educate with your knowledge sharing.. and appreciate

your

> > > > feedback..

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > Chandu2Chill

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

September 25, 2009

Dear Respected bhaskar Ji sure ,i always took ur words in right sense only .But i was just clarifying my stand as it may considered as over enthusiasm sure i know ur lov and affection towards me and stil cherish all those momnts when ever u r sharing ur knowledge with me in our tel talks with deep regrds sunil nair , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear Shri Sunil Nair ji,> > I never excersise the mind more than necessary neither astrologically> nor otherwise. In your case too, let me tell you, even if you come with> a big sword towards me, I will not think otherwise. You will always> remain a good friend and contact for me, no matter what. Therefore I> will never even in dreams think anything what is inappropriate with> reference towards you.> > Love and regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > , "astro_tellerkerala"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> >> > Dear respected bhaskar Ji> >> > if u think i was showing over enthusiasm i dont hav anything to say> > but the truth is i was having chandu ji s data and accidently i was> > seeing it and so i cud able to post immdtly> >> > And i do agree the nakshtra dispositors theory and being Lagna Lord is> > self and without self how ny thing is possible in this world and hence> > has marriage giving properties .> > In kerala astrology depending on age and other factors various> pointers> > r givn and even the dasa will show wheter such an event will survive> too> >> > rgrds sunil nair> >> > , "Bhaskar"> > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Shri Sunil Nairji,> > >> > > Thanks very much for taking the pains and being so very active. I> just> > > made a search and got these details.> > >> > > Please check my reply to Chandu 2 chill, which is simple astrology> in> > > 2-3 lines for I dont know much more than that like so many other> great> > > astrologers on these Groups.> > >> > > thanks and nice to be in touch with you always,> > >> > > love and regards,> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ,> "astro_tellerkerala"> > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Respected Bhaskar Ji> > > >> > > > Here is his details with me> > > >> > > > Chandu 2chillji Natal Chart> > > >> > > > February 10, 1975> > > > Time: 10:47:00> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > Place: 75 E 23' 00", 15 N 43' 00"> > > > Nargund, Gadag dist, India> > > >> > > > Tithi: Amavasya (Ra) (90.75% left)> > > > Vedic Weekday: Monday (Mo)> > > > Nakshatra: Sravanam (Mo) (51.69% left)> > > > Yoga: Vyatipata (Ra) (21.70% left)> > > > Karana: Chatushpada (Mo) (81.49% left)> > > > Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Le)> > > >> > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , "Bhaskar"> > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear chandu 2 Chill,> > > > >> > > > > Pl give your birth details and we shall check.> > > > >> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > , "CP"> > nanna_id2006@> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Ms. Vandana Ji, Shir Vijay Ji and Shir Bhaskar Ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > I got married during Rahu - Mars my Rahu is in 8H despositor> is> > > > Mars.> > > > > >> > > > > > Using (JHora 7.32) Lahiri and KP Ayanamsa experimenting with> > TRUE> > > > and> > > > > MEAN Nodes option and looking at Bhava Chalita RAHU DOES NOT> MOVE> > > from> > > > > my 8H!!!> > > > > >> > > > > > Now we can consider this as well Rahu and Mars both signify> > since> > > > > (Rahu is in Mars house) my 1H and 8H when the Vim Dasa was> > running.> > > > Now> > > > > see when i got married in 19th Dec 2004> > > > > >> > > > > > Rahu-Mars Vim dasa> > > > > >> > > > > > Jupiter was transiting my 6H from Lagna 9H from my natal Moon> > > Saturn> > > > > was in Retro and ans was transiting 4H from Lagna 7H from Moon> Non> > > of> > > > > these planets were aspeting my Natal 7H (trying to> look/understand> > > > from> > > > > Shri KNR Ji's Double Transit theory)> > > > > >> > > > > > Yet Marriage took place> > > > > >> > > > > > i do not see any 2,7, 9,and 11 house siginificance or> activation> > > > when> > > > > my marriage took place...> > > > > >> > > > > > Kindly educate with your knowledge sharing.. and appreciate> your> > > > > feedback..> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards> > > > > >> > > > > > Chandu2Chill> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

September 25, 2009

One should always be proud of his ancestory in the field he is in. You

cannot call yourself ordinary if you say that you are doing Kriya Yoga

of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 20 years ? I am sure you know

the greatness of Your guru Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji, His guru Shri

Yukteshwarji, His guru Shri Lahiri Mahasaya, and His guru Shri Babaji.

How can one call himself ordinary and undermine his Gurus by saying that

he is not unique ? Why must we appear to look good by saying that all

are Unique ? Here we are not talking if normally common uniqueness but

specific uniqueness. Is everybody here doing Kriya yoga, as must be

done actually ?

Why dont you deserve a " Shri " addressed to your name ? with above ?

Even myself is a direct descendant of the Great Astrologer Shri K S

Krishnamurthy in guru Shishya parampara if one considers the term as

applicable in current times. Because His Shishya was Shri kasbe ji, and

his Shishya was Shri sahasneji, and his shishya is myself as having

learnt KP system from him directly. Which is why I never allow

disrespect to myself as an astrologer or to my knowledge.

I am also a shishya of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 15 Years

being a member of Yogoda, but do not demand respect due to this

association , since not into Kriya yoga, Hong Sau or energisations or Om

techniques as taught by him. But since you are doing this, you have no

right not to demand respect and appear ordinary and unnecessary humble.

Be strong of your virtues and proud of your attainments if you are

really truthful to the cause.

regards/Bhaskar.

, " gopalakrishna "

<gopi_b927 wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji,

> according to me everybody is unique and i dont deserve anything you

have

> written....sorry if you are hurt but cant help since sat in my 2nd

house

> sometimes makes me talk like this.

> One more thing a jeevanmukta(Real McCoy)and a realized one whom i had

> personal touch said stop thinking and start living and made me

> understand everybody is unique.

> Love and regards,

> gopi.

> , " Bhaskar "

> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shri Gopi ji,

> >

> > If You are doing Kriya Yoga and Energisation excersises of Shri

> > Paramhansa Yoganand ji, then you are a unique member in this august

> > gathering, and the affix " Shri " also I would consider as most

ordinary

> > for a personage like Your goodself.

> >

> > My Pranams to you.

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> > > ________________________________

> > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@

> > >

> > > Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:58:38 AM

> > > Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga-dear

> Gopi

> > Jee

> > >

> > > Dear Tripathy ji,

> > > this is not your usual way of adressing which i like very much.Pl

> > adress me the same way and dont degrade me with sir etc.Manoj ji

this

> > request is to you also please.

> > > I am a sincere practitioner of kriya yoga of paramhans yogananda

> since

> > my20th yr or so till date.I have no istadevta/kuldevta etc,may be

due

> to

> > the influence of nodes as well with my 9th lord and 5th lord as

well.

> > > warm regards,

> > > gopi.

> > >

> >

>

September 25, 2009

Do not repeat again and again about Saturn being in your 2nd house, and

putting the planet to blame. Saturn is not to be blamed but ones poorva

Karmas are, for wrong or ambigous utterances done in present Life as

result of Dridha or adridha prarabdha, or as Kriyamana Karmas. Why must

we hang saturn everytime for this ? How is Saturn to be blamed kindly

say ? In fact Saturn will be the strongest significator in Your

horoscope for acquiring self earned wealth and happiness from family .

one should not always look for negatives from planets like Saturn, Mars

and Rahu, rather look at positives and not taint them unnecessarily.

Unfortunately Mars, Rahu and saturn has become a punching bag for all

ills in ones Life, whereas if one just uses normal commonsense one would

find that saturn is the Owner for the 10th house of karm and resultant

gains as seen from the 11th house, whereas mars is the agression in hard

work as confirmed from its Exaltation point in the natural 10th. Rahu is

actually one of the prime planets to grant happiness both material and

spiritual.

The planets are the manifestations of the Supreme Lord and one must

utter their names with respect both in speech and treatment . remember

they are not the actual culprits but just instruments to award us pains

or pleasures as per our prarabdha, and the various planets just show and

reveal the various ways and nature of the pains and pleasures which one

will receive, and nothing more.

regards/Bhaskar.

, " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> One should always be proud of his ancestory in the field he is in. You

> cannot call yourself ordinary if you say that you are doing Kriya Yoga

> of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 20 years ? I am sure you know

> the greatness of Your guru Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji, His guru Shri

> Yukteshwarji, His guru Shri Lahiri Mahasaya, and His guru Shri Babaji.

> How can one call himself ordinary and undermine his Gurus by saying

that

> he is not unique ? Why must we appear to look good by saying that all

> are Unique ? Here we are not talking if normally common uniqueness but

> specific uniqueness. Is everybody here doing Kriya yoga, as must be

> done actually ?

>

> Why dont you deserve a " Shri " addressed to your name ? with above ?

>

> Even myself is a direct descendant of the Great Astrologer Shri K S

> Krishnamurthy in guru Shishya parampara if one considers the term as

> applicable in current times. Because His Shishya was Shri kasbe ji,

and

> his Shishya was Shri sahasneji, and his shishya is myself as having

> learnt KP system from him directly. Which is why I never allow

> disrespect to myself as an astrologer or to my knowledge.

>

> I am also a shishya of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 15 Years

> being a member of Yogoda, but do not demand respect due to this

> association , since not into Kriya yoga, Hong Sau or energisations or

Om

> techniques as taught by him. But since you are doing this, you have no

> right not to demand respect and appear ordinary and unnecessary

humble.

>

> Be strong of your virtues and proud of your attainments if you are

> really truthful to the cause.

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

, " gopalakrishna "

> gopi_b927@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > according to me everybody is unique and i dont deserve anything you

> have

> > written....sorry if you are hurt but cant help since sat in my 2nd

> house

> > sometimes makes me talk like this.

> > One more thing a jeevanmukta(Real McCoy)and a realized one whom i

had

> > personal touch said stop thinking and start living and made me

> > understand everybody is unique.

> > Love and regards,

> > gopi.

> > , " Bhaskar "

> > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Shri Gopi ji,

> > >

> > > If You are doing Kriya Yoga and Energisation excersises of Shri

> > > Paramhansa Yoganand ji, then you are a unique member in this

august

> > > gathering, and the affix " Shri " also I would consider as most

> ordinary

> > > for a personage like Your goodself.

> > >

> > > My Pranams to you.

> > >

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@

> > > >

> > > > Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:58:38 AM

> > > > Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga-dear

> > Gopi

> > > Jee

> > > >

> > > > Dear Tripathy ji,

> > > > this is not your usual way of adressing which i like very

much.Pl

> > > adress me the same way and dont degrade me with sir etc.Manoj ji

> this

> > > request is to you also please.

> > > > I am a sincere practitioner of kriya yoga of paramhans yogananda

> > since

> > > my20th yr or so till date.I have no istadevta/kuldevta etc,may be

> due

> > to

> > > the influence of nodes as well with my 9th lord and 5th lord as

> well.

> > > > warm regards,

> > > > gopi.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

September 26, 2009

One thing is i never blamed sat,but just made a subjective(astrology) statement.Everything written about the statement is imagination/interpretation etc etc.One who has nipuna yoga in 11th with lagna and2nd lord of speach(note retro) in his own house,RY in 9th house of luck apart from VRY can talk anything and get away but not the one with sat in 2nd asp by badhaka jup.I am talking astrology only nothing else....gopi. , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Do not repeat again and again about Saturn being in your 2nd house, and> putting the planet to blame. Saturn is not to be blamed but ones poorva> Karmas are, for wrong or ambigous utterances done in present Life as> result of Dridha or adridha prarabdha, or as Kriyamana Karmas. Why must> we hang saturn everytime for this ? How is Saturn to be blamed kindly> say ? In fact Saturn will be the strongest significator in Your> horoscope for acquiring self earned wealth and happiness from family .> one should not always look for negatives from planets like Saturn, Mars> and Rahu, rather look at positives and not taint them unnecessarily.> > Unfortunately Mars, Rahu and saturn has become a punching bag for all> ills in ones Life, whereas if one just uses normal commonsense one would> find that saturn is the Owner for the 10th house of karm and resultant> gains as seen from the 11th house, whereas mars is the agression in hard> work as confirmed from its Exaltation point in the natural 10th. Rahu is> actually one of the prime planets to grant happiness both material and> spiritual.> > The planets are the manifestations of the Supreme Lord and one must> utter their names with respect both in speech and treatment . remember> they are not the actual culprits but just instruments to award us pains> or pleasures as per our prarabdha, and the various planets just show and> reveal the various ways and nature of the pains and pleasures which one> will receive, and nothing more.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > , "Bhaskar"> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> >> > One should always be proud of his ancestory in the field he is in. You> > cannot call yourself ordinary if you say that you are doing Kriya Yoga> > of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 20 years ? I am sure you know> > the greatness of Your guru Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji, His guru Shri> > Yukteshwarji, His guru Shri Lahiri Mahasaya, and His guru Shri Babaji.> > How can one call himself ordinary and undermine his Gurus by saying> that> > he is not unique ? Why must we appear to look good by saying that all> > are Unique ? Here we are not talking if normally common uniqueness but> > specific uniqueness. Is everybody here doing Kriya yoga, as must be> > done actually ?> >> > Why dont you deserve a "Shri " addressed to your name ? with above ?> >> > Even myself is a direct descendant of the Great Astrologer Shri K S> > Krishnamurthy in guru Shishya parampara if one considers the term as> > applicable in current times. Because His Shishya was Shri kasbe ji,> and> > his Shishya was Shri sahasneji, and his shishya is myself as having> > learnt KP system from him directly. Which is why I never allow> > disrespect to myself as an astrologer or to my knowledge.> >> > I am also a shishya of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 15 Years> > being a member of Yogoda, but do not demand respect due to this> > association , since not into Kriya yoga, Hong Sau or energisations or> Om> > techniques as taught by him. But since you are doing this, you have no> > right not to demand respect and appear ordinary and unnecessary> humble.> >> > Be strong of your virtues and proud of your attainments if you are> > really truthful to the cause.> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> >> >> > , "gopalakrishna"> > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > according to me everybody is unique and i dont deserve anything you> > have> > > written....sorry if you are hurt but cant help since sat in my 2nd> > house> > > sometimes makes me talk like this.> > > One more thing a jeevanmukta(Real McCoy)and a realized one whom i> had> > > personal touch said stop thinking and start living and made me> > > understand everybody is unique.> > > Love and regards,> > > gopi.> > > , "Bhaskar"> > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Shri Gopi ji,> > > >> > > > If You are doing Kriya Yoga and Energisation excersises of Shri> > > > Paramhansa Yoganand ji, then you are a unique member in this> august> > > > gathering, and the affix "Shri" also I would consider as most> > ordinary> > > > for a personage like Your goodself.> > > >> > > > My Pranams to you.> > > >> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > ________________________________> > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@> > > > > > > > > > Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:58:38 AM> > > > > Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga-dear> > > Gopi> > > > Jee> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Tripathy ji,> > > > > this is not your usual way of adressing which i like very> much.Pl> > > > adress me the same way and dont degrade me with sir etc.Manoj ji> > this> > > > request is to you also please.> > > > > I am a sincere practitioner of kriya yoga of paramhans yogananda> > > since> > > > my20th yr or so till date.I have no istadevta/kuldevta etc,may be> > due> > > to> > > > the influence of nodes as well with my 9th lord and 5th lord as> > well.> > > > > warm regards,> > > > > gopi.> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

September 26, 2009

Dear Gopi ji,

Agreed...... but you are still unique in a good way.

regards/Bhaskar.

, " gopalakrishna "

<gopi_b927 wrote:

>

> One thing is i never blamed sat,but just made a subjective(astrology)

> statement.Everything written about the statement is

> imagination/interpretation etc etc.

> One who has nipuna yoga in 11th with lagna and2nd lord of speach(note

> retro) in his own house,RY in 9th house of luck apart from VRY can

talk

> anything and get away but not the one with sat in 2nd asp by badhaka

> jup.I am talking astrology only nothing else....

> gopi.

> , " Bhaskar "

> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> >

> > Do not repeat again and again about Saturn being in your 2nd house,

> and

> > putting the planet to blame. Saturn is not to be blamed but ones

> poorva

> > Karmas are, for wrong or ambigous utterances done in present Life as

> > result of Dridha or adridha prarabdha, or as Kriyamana Karmas. Why

> must

> > we hang saturn everytime for this ? How is Saturn to be blamed

kindly

> > say ? In fact Saturn will be the strongest significator in Your

> > horoscope for acquiring self earned wealth and happiness from family

> .

> > one should not always look for negatives from planets like Saturn,

> Mars

> > and Rahu, rather look at positives and not taint them unnecessarily.

> >

> > Unfortunately Mars, Rahu and saturn has become a punching bag for

> all

> > ills in ones Life, whereas if one just uses normal commonsense one

> would

> > find that saturn is the Owner for the 10th house of karm and

> resultant

> > gains as seen from the 11th house, whereas mars is the agression in

> hard

> > work as confirmed from its Exaltation point in the natural 10th.

Rahu

> is

> > actually one of the prime planets to grant happiness both material

and

> > spiritual.

> >

> > The planets are the manifestations of the Supreme Lord and one must

> > utter their names with respect both in speech and treatment .

remember

> > they are not the actual culprits but just instruments to award us

> pains

> > or pleasures as per our prarabdha, and the various planets just show

> and

> > reveal the various ways and nature of the pains and pleasures which

> one

> > will receive, and nothing more.

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

> > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > >

> > > One should always be proud of his ancestory in the field he is in.

> You

> > > cannot call yourself ordinary if you say that you are doing Kriya

> Yoga

> > > of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 20 years ? I am sure you

know

> > > the greatness of Your guru Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji, His guru

Shri

> > > Yukteshwarji, His guru Shri Lahiri Mahasaya, and His guru Shri

> Babaji.

> > > How can one call himself ordinary and undermine his Gurus by

saying

> > that

> > > he is not unique ? Why must we appear to look good by saying that

> all

> > > are Unique ? Here we are not talking if normally common uniqueness

> but

> > > specific uniqueness. Is everybody here doing Kriya yoga, as must

be

> > > done actually ?

> > >

> > > Why dont you deserve a " Shri " addressed to your name ? with above

?

> > >

> > > Even myself is a direct descendant of the Great Astrologer Shri K

S

> > > Krishnamurthy in guru Shishya parampara if one considers the term

as

> > > applicable in current times. Because His Shishya was Shri kasbe

ji,

> > and

> > > his Shishya was Shri sahasneji, and his shishya is myself as

having

> > > learnt KP system from him directly. Which is why I never allow

> > > disrespect to myself as an astrologer or to my knowledge.

> > >

> > > I am also a shishya of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 15

Years

> > > being a member of Yogoda, but do not demand respect due to this

> > > association , since not into Kriya yoga, Hong Sau or energisations

> or

> > Om

> > > techniques as taught by him. But since you are doing this, you

have

> no

> > > right not to demand respect and appear ordinary and unnecessary

> > humble.

> > >

> > > Be strong of your virtues and proud of your attainments if you are

> > > really truthful to the cause.

> > >

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > , " gopalakrishna "

> > > gopi_b927@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > > > according to me everybody is unique and i dont deserve anything

> you

> > > have

> > > > written....sorry if you are hurt but cant help since sat in my

2nd

> > > house

> > > > sometimes makes me talk like this.

> > > > One more thing a jeevanmukta(Real McCoy)and a realized one whom

i

> > had

> > > > personal touch said stop thinking and start living and made me

> > > > understand everybody is unique.

> > > > Love and regards,

> > > > gopi.

> > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Shri Gopi ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > If You are doing Kriya Yoga and Energisation excersises of

Shri

> > > > > Paramhansa Yoganand ji, then you are a unique member in this

> > august

> > > > > gathering, and the affix " Shri " also I would consider as most

> > > ordinary

> > > > > for a personage like Your goodself.

> > > > >

> > > > > My Pranams to you.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:58:38 AM

> > > > > > Re: Neechabanga

> Rajyoga-dear

> > > > Gopi

> > > > > Jee

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Tripathy ji,

> > > > > > this is not your usual way of adressing which i like very

> > much.Pl

> > > > > adress me the same way and dont degrade me with sir etc.Manoj

ji

> > > this

> > > > > request is to you also please.

> > > > > > I am a sincere practitioner of kriya yoga of paramhans

> yogananda

> > > > since

> > > > > my20th yr or so till date.I have no istadevta/kuldevta etc,may

> be

> > > due

> > > > to

> > > > > the influence of nodes as well with my 9th lord and 5th lord

as

> > > well.

> > > > > > warm regards,

> > > > > > gopi.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

September 26, 2009

Dear Bhaskar ji,i respect your opinion since i always respect others opinion.Regarding uniqueness i repeat all are unique in their own way.I am neither good nor bad but i am what i am.Love and regards,gopi. , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear Gopi ji,> > Agreed...... but you are still unique in a good way.> > regards/Bhaskar.>

September 26, 2009

Respected moujiji,

//it makes it obvious that she is then connected to BVB in some way//

it is not just obvious but its a fact that i owe allegiance to BVB.some way or other i am still a part of it as it carries especial place in my heart.who can forget those selfless faculty members who put their hearts and soul to make things easily understandable.they are the torchbearer to aspiring astrologer, their efforts are priceless.those teachers are an institution in themselves.through this forum i take the opportunity to thanks all of them.

Thanks Again,Regards..

Vandana Mishra.

--- On Fri, 9/25/09, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote:

Manoj Kumar <mouji99Re: Re: Neechabanga Rajyoga-dear Gopi Jee Date: Friday, September 25, 2009, 11:09 AM

In parts of North India, Rahu is considered as an unqualified marriage giver. People call Rahu as Bahau (or one which gives marriage unconditionally without getting connected to the houses of marriage). Any planet in the 8th house, automatically, makes a connection with the second house and hence become eligible for giving marriage but it is the second house which is important and not the 8th house.

Regarding Shri Chandu's observation that double transit theory doesnt work in his case, I would request him to provide his birth data so that we can examine it again. Because in my observation, it is rare for the double transit theory to fail. But since he says it doesnt work in his case, lets see it again.

Vandana Mishra's observation that seventh is "dhyan" and eighth is "samadhi" is a valid observation and it makes it obvious that she is then connected to BVB is some way.

Seventh house afflictions in case of females does tend to take them towards spirituality.

regards,

Mouji

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