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Dear Vijay Goel ji,

 

I did not miss your Query at all. It was understood the way you desired.

 

About the rest of the answers I will come later upon these. This

requires a detailed answer. At the moment in Jaipur, and do not have

energy left at the end of the day.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " Vijay Goel "

<goyalvj wrote:

>

> Respected Bhaskerji,

>

> you missed my second query :

> What a about the rahu if positioned in 2nd or 6th house instead of

11th house (in chalit chart). in the same conditioned.?

>

> If any other planet (extention of this principle) is placed in these

houses (2,6,11) in the nakshatra lord of (2,6,11), does it will give

wealth gain ?

>

> Why you left 10th house the third Artha trikone.? (12th from 11th

house ?)

>

> Actually the practicability and emphasis you have made on this

principle is more important.

>

> Thankyou,

> Regards,

> Vijay Goel

> Jaipur.

>

> , " Bhaskar "

bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Vijay ji,

> >

> > This makes me very happy when a astrologer understands the

predictive

> > principles. You are very right, and have caught the essence of this

> > principle. My purpose of writings are solved. Yes it will certainly

give

> > financial gains and wealth creations. But check the planetary

positions

> > (House placement from the Bhava Chalit Chart and not the Natal

Chart)

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Vijay Goel "

> > <goyalvj@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Bhaskerji,

> > >

> > > ///But Rahu will be good in the 11th only if it is placed in a

> > Nakhsatra Lord who owns the 2nd,11th or the 6th house of the

Horoscope.

> > This is a practical principle and a absolute correct one, and a

> > predictive principle and not just theoretic.///

> > >

> > > Thankyou for this information. Does this rahu will give 'financial

> > gain' as its nakshatra lord is associated with 2,11,and 6th house.

> > >

> > > Does this association also works in if rahu is in 2nd and 6th

house.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Vijay Goel

> > > Jaipur.

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

> > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Friends,

> > > >

> > > > I do not know what this thread is about, and I have been busy in

> > some

> > > > jewellry exhibition, of which I was a active part of, so did not

> > have

> > > > the time to go through the thread. But Rahu will be good in the

11th

> > > > only if it is placed ina Nakhsatra Lord who owns the 2nd,11th or

the

> > 6th

> > > > house of the Horoscope. This is a practical principle and a

absolute

> > > > correct one, and a predictive principle and not just theoretic.

And

> > I am

> > > > dealing professionally with at least 5-10 charts everyday, and

these

> > > > people whom I work for, will not pay me my money if I am wrong,

so

> > > > please accept this as the truth coming from a experienced and

> > practical

> > > > astrologer.

> > > >

> > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Bhaskar ji,

 

Please don't feel any pain and guilt because we have 'HOT and COLD' relations

which will strengthen gradually ,once the way length will tune it will produce

only sweet tunes.When i have seen your message in my mail-box i have immediately

reply you that i will be busy in professional and social front.Next one month

also have some busy schedule but i will try to participate as much as possible

to me.

 

I could not leave this group and you.

 

Thanks,

 

M.S.Bohra

 

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

>

> Dear Bohra ji,

>

> Nic to see you back here. I was feeling the pain of guilt in your

> absence. I read your link. It is good and asnwers my doubts very well.

> As regards to interpretation of Sanskrit shlokas nobody can do it better

> than Shri PVR Narsimharao ji. I believe his interpretations as right .

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

>

>

>

> , " msbohra62 "

> <msbohra62@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Bhashkar ji and Deepen ji,

> >

> > Please see the link if it help any for yours quarries :-

> >

> > sohamsa/message/18760

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > M.S.Bohra

> >

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Are we sure that the Nodes can be considered as the " Atmakaraka " ?

> (I do

> > > not know, hence asking). In any case Rahu in the 9th if the 9th is a

> > > badhaksthana will not produce good results, the way it is expected

> to.

> > >

> > > I am talking without reference to any example .

> > >

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , deepen thakkar

> > > <justcoolout@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Rahu in 9th can give excellent results if Rahu is the Atma karak..

> > > > Than the Rahu results will be akin to the results of sun in 9th

> > > house...

> > > > Bhagwathiji can you please tell is rahu the Atmakarak?

> > > > --- On Tue, 14/7/09, chiranjiv mehta vchiranjiv@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > chiranjiv mehta vchiranjiv@

> > > > Re: Re:Rahu_ 11H

> > > >

> > > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 7:02 PM

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> > > >

> > > > Many influences on 5th house and 4th. Total 6 .

> > > > Maths, Arts, teaching etc.

> > > > Do you have brothers ? Do you support them in any way ?

> > > >

> > > > Chiranjiv Mehta

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- On Tue, 14/7/09, bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_harihara

> > > n wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_harihara n

> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 5:56 PM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Chiranjeeviji,

> > > >

> > > > lagna- gemini

> > > > 3rd house-mars/ketu

> > > > 4th house-mer/sun

> > > > 5th house-jup-venus

> > > > 7th house-moon

> > > > 9th house-rahu

> > > > 11th house- saturn

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > bhagavathi

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv

> mehta

> > > <vchiranjiv@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Bhagvathiji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Rahu in 9 th house is giving you education.. Good and

> interesting.

> > > > > Saturn also aspecting sign of exalation. You said Saturn in

> Aries in

> > > 11 th hse.

> > > > > Rahu is also giver of knowledge - something which we overlook

> > > always.

> > > > > Jupiter in 5th ? and where is Mars ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks & Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Tue, 14/7/09, bhagavathi_harihara n

> > > > <bhagavathi_ hariharan@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ hariharan@ ...>

> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 1:24 AM

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear discussing members,

> > > > > I am not very active these days. However, ths post caught my

> > > attention-

> > > > > // 9th house for rahu is its MKS (maran karak sthan) ,unles if

> the

> > > cancellation of this MKS awastha isnt happening,Rahu will delivery

> very

> > > inauspicious results//

> > > > > could you tell me how the cancellation of this avastha occurs. I

> am

> > > not familiar with this and I have

> > > > not heard of this before.

> > > > > // He wont stay with his family and if he stays there wont too

> much

> > > harmony between him and family members..... . It wiil make native

> very

> > > deceptive,one who will always speak lies and also a sort of

> traitor..//

> > > > > I have rahu in 9th in kumbha, running this dasha, currently in

> the

> > > fag end. As far as I know, I am not known to be deceptive, traitor

> or a

> > > liar.. I am not saying I am a satyavadi, I have told lies

> ocasionally

> > > for fun, those are white lies. It is true I live away from home and

> > > family, but my weekly phone bills are too high- so I have ties with

> > > everyone

> > > > >

> > > > > // Respected Sreenadhji,

> > > > > > Pranam. Very valuable knowledge you gave us. I am learning

> > > " Vedic Jyotish " . Sir, give detail knowledge about rahu situtated in

> 9th

> > > bhav. It is Dharma bhav. Rahu will give adverse effect on education,

> > > dharma, father. //

> > > > > It

> > > > has not affected my dharma at all. Regarding education, have many

> > > academic degrees and diplomas, still going steady in education, plan

> to

> > > get atleast two more degrees. Father died in peace. Could have been

> nice

> > > if he lived more. But that is destiny, all born have to die. How

> long

> > > can a person live?

> > > > > bhagavathi

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MAnoj ji & Reniji,

AK dasha , as far as i remember Shri Sanjay ji mentioned in one of his

article,is the one  that gives the native the lessons and teachings of this life

....so in a sense it creates awareness in the native and thus can prove very

spiritual....So it is not good from a materialistic point and due to deprivation

based on the houses which AK lords the native tries to seek the spiritual

path...Just to explain ,the 5th lord and AK are same ,the native will experience

some problems,bitterness from his child that might alter his affection towards

his child and lead him to more spiritual path...

 

--- On Wed, 15/7/09, renunw <renunw wrote:

 

renunw <renunw

Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

Wednesday, 15 July, 2009, 7:41 AM

Dear Manoj ji,

 

 

 

//Isn't the AK's dasha supposed be a more difficult one rather than an easy one?

//

 

 

 

If my memory serves me right, I think Sunil Nair ji also mentioned this once

when analyzing a difficult period in a chart of a known person He further said

that the Dasa of AK planet is called Mrita Planet Dasa.

 

 

 

Manoj ji, can you please explain this...or may be any other learned member would

expand on this..

 

 

 

Thanks...

 

 

 

blessings,

 

 

 

Renu

 

 

 

ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

 

>

 

> Dear Deepen Ji,

 

>

 

> Isn't the AK's dasha supposed be a more difficult one rather than an easy

one? I am not too familiar with Jaimini principles so please correct me if I am

wrong.

 

>  

 

> Regards,

 

>  

 

> -Manoj

 

>  

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> ____________ _________ _________ __

 

> deepen thakkar <justcoolout@ ...>

 

> ancient_indian_ astrology

 

> Tuesday, July 14, 2009 10:33:25 AM

 

> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Rahu in 9th can give excellent results if Rahu is the  Atma karak..

 

> Than the Rahu results will be akin to the results of sun in 9th house....

 

> Bhagwathiji can you please tell is rahu the Atmakarak?

 

> --- On Tue, 14/7/09, chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv@ . co.in> wrote:

 

>

 

>

 

> >chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv@ . co.in>

 

> >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

> >ancient_indian_ astrology

 

> >Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 7:02 PM

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >Bhagvathji,

 

> >

 

> >Many influences on 5th house and 4th. Total 6 .

 

> >Maths, Arts, teaching etc.

 

> >Do you have brothers ? Do you support them in any way ?

 

> >

 

> >Chiranjiv Mehta

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >--- On Tue, 14/7/09, bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ harihara n

wrote:

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >>bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ harihara n

 

> >>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

> >>ancient_indian_ astrology

 

> >>Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 5:56 PM

 

> >>

 

> >>

 

> >>Chiranjeeviji,

 

> >>

 

> >>lagna- gemini

 

> >>3rd house-mars/ketu

 

> >>4th house-mer/sun

 

> >>5th house-jup-venus

 

> >>7th house-moon

 

> >>9th house-rahu

 

> >>11th house- saturn

 

> >>

 

> >>Regards,

 

> >>bhagavathi

 

> >>

 

> >>ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta

<vchiranjiv@ ...> wrote:

 

> >>>

 

> >>> Dear Bhagvathiji,

 

> >>>  

 

> >>> Rahu in 9 th house is giving you education.. Good and interesting.

 

> >>> Saturn also aspecting sign of exalation. You said Saturn in Aries in 11 th

hse.

 

> >>> Rahu is also giver of knowledge - something which we overlook always.

 

> >>> Jupiter in 5th ? and where is Mars ?

 

> >>>

 

> >>> Thanks & Regards

 

> >>>

 

> >>> Chiranjiv Mehta

 

> >>>

 

> >>>

 

> >>> --- On Tue, 14/7/09, bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ hariharan@ ...>

wrote:

 

> >>>

 

> >>>

 

> >>> bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ hariharan@ ...>

 

> >>> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

> >>> ancient_indian_ astrology

 

> >>> Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 1:24 AM

 

> >>>

 

> >>>

 

> >>>

 

> >>>

 

> >>>

 

> >>>

 

> >>>

 

> >>>

 

> >>>

 

> >>> Dear discussing members,

 

> >>> I am not very active these days. However, ths post caught my attention-

 

> >>> //  9th house for rahu is its MKS (maran karak sthan) ,unles if the

cancellation of this MKS awastha isnt happening,Rahu will delivery very

inauspicious results//

 

> >>> could you tell me how the cancellation of this avastha occurs. I am not

familiar with this and I have not heard of this before. 

 

> >>> // He wont stay with his family and if he stays there wont too much

harmony between him and family members..... . . It wiil make native very

deceptive,one who will always speak lies and also a sort of traitor..//

 

> >>> I have rahu in 9th in kumbha,  running this dasha, currently in the fag

end. As far as I know, I am not known to be deceptive, traitor or a liar.. I am

not saying I am a satyavadi, I have told lies ocasionally for fun, those are

white lies. It is true I live away from home and family, but my weekly phone

bills are too high- so I have ties with everyone

 

> >>>

 

> >>> // Respected Sreenadhji,

 

> >>> >     Pranam. Very valuable knowledge you gave us. I am learning " Vedic

Jyotish " . Sir, give detail knowledge about rahu situtated in 9th bhav. It is

Dharma bhav. Rahu will give adverse effect on education, dharma, father. //

 

> >>> It has not affected my dharma at all. Regarding education, have many

academic degrees and diplomas, still going steady in education, plan to

get atleast two more degrees. Father died in peace. Could have been nice if he

lived more. But that is destiny, all born have to die. How long can a person

live?  

 

> >>> bhagavathi

 

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11th lord shani placed in 6th house and and if you consider 11th lord as Rahu(since JHORA is taking rahu as the lord) is in the 5th house--- On Tue, 14/7/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:Manoj Chandran <chandran_manojRe: Re:Rahu_ 11HDate: Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 11:52 PM

 

 

Dear Deepen Ji,

 

What is the status of your 11L Shani? Also I think Parashara's dictum is specific to the 11L and not planet placed in the 11H. Learned members can correct me if I am wrong.

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

deepen thakkar <justcoolout@ >ancient_indian_ astrologyTuesday, July 14, 2009 10:55:18 AMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Manojji,I have Ketu in 11th house in Aquarius sign...My Ketu dasha changed toppled my world upside down whether in materialistic way since it was frm 17to 24 yrs i completely lost my education and a promising career,also my firends in some ways and many more things..It completely changed my outlook towards the world....Haven' t passed through 11th lord shani,rahu dasha and think wont even pass through them so wont know what will be the effects....--- On Mon, 13/7/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:

Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11Hancient_indian_ astrologyMonday, 13 July, 2009, 11:30 PM

 

 

 

 

Dear Deepen Ji,

 

According to my teachings this does not hold true in practice. I have been taught that if the 11L is strong and well placed and unafflicted, his dasha will infact be very good in terms of materialistic achievements (which is what people go after in this day and age). It may not bring any religious/spiritual fulfillment.

 

All opposing views welcome. If any one has any practical example to show otherwise I would be grateful..

 

-Manoj

 

 

 

deepen thakkar <justcoolout@ >ancient_indian_ astrologyMonday, July 13, 2009 10:18:03 AMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sreenadhji and other members,As Shri Kursijaji mentioned & also it is commonly known that Lord of 11th house has to be seen as a malefic & its dasha will bring lots of obstruction to the native's life...But if some planet is posited in the 11th House than will that planet take the responsibility of delivering the inauspicious results of the 11th house or still the deliverance will stay with the 11th lord..--- On Mon, 13/7/09, Sreenadh <sreesog > wrote:

Sreenadh <sreesog >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11Hancient_indian_ astrologyMonday, 13 July, 2009, 10:24 PM

 

 

Dear Kursija ji, //Thanks for the nice article.// It was your above statement that made me aware that it could be an article than a mere response message. :) So I have spell checked the same and posted it in AIA site as well. True - it is an article, even though I was not aware. :) Thanks. Also thanks for the valuable perspective shared about Rahu in 11H. I agree with you. :)Love and regards,Sreenadhancient_indian_ astrology, "S.C. Kursija" <sckursija@.. .> wrote:>> Respected Sh Sreenadh ji,> Thanks for the nice article. I would like to add the our sages have take each bhava in two aspects. One for the Jeeva and second for the material. Most of the raja yoga and "malefic in 11th house give benefic results" is in reference to material, not Jeeva. Sage Parashar has taken

the

dasha of 11th lord as malefic,it does not mean that dasha of 11th will not give wealth or gain during his dasha, but it will not give peace of mind to the Jeeva. During the malefic lord of 11th's dasha the native have abundance of money, but no peace of mind.> It also mean that the benefic planet in 11th will give money with fare means and malefic planet will give money through wrong means. So Rahu in 11th will give money through gambling, speculation etc as you have stated, but the native will suffer from loss of peace of mind. You can correct me if I am wrong.> regards

 

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Dear Manoj ji,

 

Thanks for the explanations :)

 

blessings,

 

Renu

 

 

 

, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj wrote:

>

> Dear Renu Ji,

>

> I am not very learned in this area but I will comment what I know and others

can build on it/ correct me if this is inaccurate. As a general statement my

understanding is that AK planets' primary purpose is to guide the native to

spiritual enlightenment. Hence during its period (dasha/antar) all other things

being considered, it tends to bring difficult circumstances as there seems to be

an inevitable link between difficulties and spiritual unfoldment (hence 2 of

the 3 moksha houses are dussthanas).

>

> Specifically regards to Rahu: Assuming Rahu is allowable as an AK, if he is

the AK, his period especially seems to have the tendency to bring in especially

difficult circumstances and sorrow. There is also an opinion prevailing amongst

some teachers that a peson with Rahu as AK will see much sorrow in his/her life

but will not give sorrow to other people. This needs to be validated by

experience. Rahu as AK also has the tendency (again considering the general

tenor of the chart in addittion) to make the person very spiritual, especially

during his period. It is significant to note that Shri Ramakrishna Paramahansa

had Rahu as his AK (if you follow this scheme).

>

> Experienced Jaimini scholars/students can please correct me if I am wrong,

because I am not directly studying under any Jaimini teacher/scholar.

>  

> Regards,

>  -Manoj

>  

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> renunw <renunw

>

> Tuesday, July 14, 2009 7:11:22 PM

> Re:Rahu_ 11H

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Manoj ji,

>

> //Isn't the AK's dasha supposed be a more difficult one rather than an easy

one? //

>

> If my memory serves me right, I think Sunil Nair ji also mentioned this once

when analyzing a difficult period in a chart of a known person He further said

that the Dasa of AK planet is called Mrita Planet Dasa.

>

> Manoj ji, can you please explain this...or may be any other learned member

would expand on this..

>

> Thanks...

>

> blessings,

>

> Renu

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Deepen Ji,

> >

> > Isn't the AK's dasha supposed be a more difficult one rather than an easy

one? I am not too familiar with Jaimini principles so please correct me if I am

wrong.

> >  

> > Regards,

> >  

> > -Manoj

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > deepen thakkar <justcoolout@ ....>

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Tuesday, July 14, 2009 10:33:25 AM

> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Rahu in 9th can give excellent results if Rahu is the  Atma karak..

> > Than the Rahu results will be akin to the results of sun in 9th house...

> > Bhagwathiji can you please tell is rahu the Atmakarak?

> > --- On Tue, 14/7/09, chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv@ . co.in> wrote:

> >

> >

> > >chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv@ . co.in>

> > >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

> > >ancient_indian_ astrology

> > >Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 7:02 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >Bhagvathji,

> > >

> > >Many influences on 5th house and 4th. Total 6 .

> > >Maths, Arts, teaching etc.

> > >Do you have brothers ? Do you support them in any way ?

> > >

> > >Chiranjiv Mehta

> > >

> > >

> > >--- On Tue, 14/7/09, bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ harihara

n wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >>bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ harihara n

> > >>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

> > >>ancient_indian_ astrology

> > >>Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 5:56 PM

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>Chiranjeeviji,

> > >>

> > >>lagna- gemini

> > >>3rd house-mars/ketu

> > >>4th house-mer/sun

> > >>5th house-jup-venus

> > >>7th house-moon

> > >>9th house-rahu

> > >>11th house- saturn

> > >>

> > >>Regards,

> > >>bhagavathi

> > >>

> > >>ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta

<vchiranjiv@ ...> wrote:

> > >>>

> > >>> Dear Bhagvathiji,

> > >>>  

> > >>> Rahu in 9 th house is giving you education.. Good and interesting.

> > >>> Saturn also aspecting sign of exalation. You said Saturn in Aries in 11

th hse.

> > >>> Rahu is also giver of knowledge - something which we overlook always.

> > >>> Jupiter in 5th ? and where is Mars ?

> > >>>

> > >>> Thanks & Regards

> > >>>

> > >>> Chiranjiv Mehta

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> --- On Tue, 14/7/09, bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ hariharan@ ...>

wrote:

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ hariharan@ ...>

> > >>> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

> > >>> ancient_indian_ astrology

> > >>> Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 1:24 AM

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> Dear discussing members,

> > >>> I am not very active these days. However, ths post caught my attention-

> > >>> //  9th house for rahu is its MKS (maran karak sthan) ,unles if the

cancellation of this MKS awastha isnt happening,Rahu will delivery very

inauspicious results//

> > >>> could you tell me how the cancellation of this avastha occurs. I am not

familiar with this and I have not heard of this before. 

> > >>> // He wont stay with his family and if he stays there wont too much

harmony between him and family members..... . . It wiil make native very

deceptive,one who will always speak lies and also a sort of traitor..//

> > >>> I have rahu in 9th in kumbha,  running this dasha, currently in the fag

end.. As far as I know, I am not known to be deceptive, traitor or a liar.. I am

not saying I am a satyavadi, I have told lies ocasionally for fun, those are

white lies. It is true I live away from home and family, but my weekly phone

bills are too high- so I have ties with everyone

> > >>>

> > >>> // Respected Sreenadhji,

> > >>> >     Pranam. Very valuable knowledge you gave us. I am learning " Vedic

Jyotish " . Sir, give detail knowledge about rahu situtated in 9th bhav. It is

Dharma bhav. Rahu will give adverse effect on education, dharma, father. //

> > >>> It has not affected my dharma at all. Regarding education, have many

academic degrees and diplomas, still going steady in education, plan to

get atleast two more degrees. Father died in peace. Could have been nice if he

lived more. But that is destiny, all born have to die. How long can a person

live?  

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> > >>>  

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Dear Bohra ji,

 

That is so nice of You to reconfirm. You are really a good and sweet

man.

 

best wishes,

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, " msbohra62 "

<msbohra62 wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji,

>

> Please don't feel any pain and guilt because we have 'HOT and COLD'

relations which will strengthen gradually ,once the way length will tune

it will produce only sweet tunes.When i have seen your message in my

mail-box i have immediately reply you that i will be busy in

professional and social front.Next one month also have some busy

schedule but i will try to participate as much as possible to me.

>

> I could not leave this group and you.

>

> Thanks,

>

> M.S.Bohra

>

>

> , " Bhaskar "

bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Bohra ji,

> >

> > Nic to see you back here. I was feeling the pain of guilt in your

> > absence. I read your link. It is good and asnwers my doubts very

well.

> > As regards to interpretation of Sanskrit shlokas nobody can do it

better

> > than Shri PVR Narsimharao ji. I believe his interpretations as right

..

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " msbohra62 "

> > <msbohra62@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Bhashkar ji and Deepen ji,

> > >

> > > Please see the link if it help any for yours quarries :-

> > >

> > > sohamsa/message/18760

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > M.S.Bohra

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

> > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Are we sure that the Nodes can be considered as the " Atmakaraka "

?

> > (I do

> > > > not know, hence asking). In any case Rahu in the 9th if the 9th

is a

> > > > badhaksthana will not produce good results, the way it is

expected

> > to.

> > > >

> > > > I am talking without reference to any example .

> > > >

> > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , deepen thakkar

> > > > <justcoolout@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Rahu in 9th can give excellent results if Rahu is the Atma

karak..

> > > > > Than the Rahu results will be akin to the results of sun in

9th

> > > > house...

> > > > > Bhagwathiji can you please tell is rahu the Atmakarak?

> > > > > --- On Tue, 14/7/09, chiranjiv mehta vchiranjiv@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > chiranjiv mehta vchiranjiv@

> > > > > Re: Re:Rahu_ 11H

> > > > >

> > > > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 7:02 PM

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhagvathji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Many influences on 5th house and 4th. Total 6 .

> > > > > Maths, Arts, teaching etc.

> > > > > Do you have brothers ? Do you support them in any way ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Tue, 14/7/09, bhagavathi_harihara n

<bhagavathi_harihara

> > > > n wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_harihara n

> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 5:56 PM

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Chiranjeeviji,

> > > > >

> > > > > lagna- gemini

> > > > > 3rd house-mars/ketu

> > > > > 4th house-mer/sun

> > > > > 5th house-jup-venus

> > > > > 7th house-moon

> > > > > 9th house-rahu

> > > > > 11th house- saturn

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > bhagavathi

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv

> > mehta

> > > > <vchiranjiv@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Bhagvathiji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rahu in 9 th house is giving you education.. Good and

> > interesting.

> > > > > > Saturn also aspecting sign of exalation. You said Saturn in

> > Aries in

> > > > 11 th hse.

> > > > > > Rahu is also giver of knowledge - something which we

overlook

> > > > always.

> > > > > > Jupiter in 5th ? and where is Mars ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks & Regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Tue, 14/7/09, bhagavathi_harihara n

> > > > > <bhagavathi_ hariharan@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ hariharan@ ...>

> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 1:24 AM

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear discussing members,

> > > > > > I am not very active these days. However, ths post caught my

> > > > attention-

> > > > > > // 9th house for rahu is its MKS (maran karak sthan) ,unles

if

> > the

> > > > cancellation of this MKS awastha isnt happening,Rahu will

delivery

> > very

> > > > inauspicious results//

> > > > > > could you tell me how the cancellation of this avastha

occurs. I

> > am

> > > > not familiar with this and I have

> > > > > not heard of this before.

> > > > > > // He wont stay with his family and if he stays there wont

too

> > much

> > > > harmony between him and family members..... . It wiil make

native

> > very

> > > > deceptive,one who will always speak lies and also a sort of

> > traitor..//

> > > > > > I have rahu in 9th in kumbha, running this dasha, currently

in

> > the

> > > > fag end. As far as I know, I am not known to be deceptive,

traitor

> > or a

> > > > liar.. I am not saying I am a satyavadi, I have told lies

> > ocasionally

> > > > for fun, those are white lies. It is true I live away from home

and

> > > > family, but my weekly phone bills are too high- so I have ties

with

> > > > everyone

> > > > > >

> > > > > > // Respected Sreenadhji,

> > > > > > > Pranam. Very valuable knowledge you gave us. I am learning

> > > > " Vedic Jyotish " . Sir, give detail knowledge about rahu situtated

in

> > 9th

> > > > bhav. It is Dharma bhav. Rahu will give adverse effect on

education,

> > > > dharma, father. //

> > > > > > It

> > > > > has not affected my dharma at all. Regarding education, have

many

> > > > academic degrees and diplomas, still going steady in education,

plan

> > to

> > > > get atleast two more degrees. Father died in peace. Could have

been

> > nice

> > > > if he lived more. But that is destiny, all born have to die. How

> > long

> > > > can a person live?

> > > > > > bhagavathi

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Dear Manoj ji & Deepen thakkar ji,

 

Thanks....I found the following in an article by Komilla Sutten. It's

beautiful....hence, let me quote her words.

 

//The truly revelation of the soul has to be a personal experience. Atmakaraka

shows us the true desires of the soul, whether we recognize them or not depends

on us.//

 

blessings,

 

Renu

 

 

, deepen thakkar

<justcoolout wrote:

>

> MAnoj ji & Reniji,

> AK dasha , as far as i remember Shri Sanjay ji mentioned in one of his

article,is the one  that gives the native the lessons and teachings of this life

....so in a sense it creates awareness in the native and thus can prove very

spiritual....So it is not good from a materialistic point and due to deprivation

based on the houses which AK lords the native tries to seek the spiritual

path...Just to explain ,the 5th lord and AK are same ,the native will experience

some problems,bitterness from his child that might alter his affection towards

his child and lead him to more spiritual path...

>

> --- On Wed, 15/7/09, renunw <renunw wrote:

>

> renunw <renunw

> Re:Rahu_ 11H

>

> Wednesday, 15 July, 2009, 7:41 AM

> Dear Manoj ji,

>

>

>

> //Isn't the AK's dasha supposed be a more difficult one rather than an easy

one? //

>

>

>

> If my memory serves me right, I think Sunil Nair ji also mentioned this once

when analyzing a difficult period in a chart of a known person He further said

that the Dasa of AK planet is called Mrita Planet Dasa.

>

>

>

> Manoj ji, can you please explain this...or may be any other learned member

would expand on this..

>

>

>

> Thanks...

>

>

>

> blessings,

>

>

>

> Renu

>

>

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Dear Deepen Ji,

>

> >

>

> > Isn't the AK's dasha supposed be a more difficult one rather than an easy

one? I am not too familiar with Jaimini principles so please correct me if I am

wrong.

>

> >  

>

> > Regards,

>

> >  

>

> > -Manoj

>

> >  

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

>

> > deepen thakkar <justcoolout@ ...>

>

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

>

> > Tuesday, July 14, 2009 10:33:25 AM

>

> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Rahu in 9th can give excellent results if Rahu is the  Atma karak..

>

> > Than the Rahu results will be akin to the results of sun in 9th house....

>

> > Bhagwathiji can you please tell is rahu the Atmakarak?

>

> > --- On Tue, 14/7/09, chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv@ . co.in> wrote:

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > >chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv@ . co.in>

>

> > >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

>

> > >ancient_indian_ astrology

>

> > >Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 7:02 PM

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >Bhagvathji,

>

> > >

>

> > >Many influences on 5th house and 4th. Total 6 .

>

> > >Maths, Arts, teaching etc.

>

> > >Do you have brothers ? Do you support them in any way ?

>

> > >

>

> > >Chiranjiv Mehta

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >--- On Tue, 14/7/09, bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ harihara

n wrote:

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >>bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ harihara n

>

> > >>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

>

> > >>ancient_indian_ astrology

>

> > >>Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 5:56 PM

>

> > >>

>

> > >>

>

> > >>Chiranjeeviji,

>

> > >>

>

> > >>lagna- gemini

>

> > >>3rd house-mars/ketu

>

> > >>4th house-mer/sun

>

> > >>5th house-jup-venus

>

> > >>7th house-moon

>

> > >>9th house-rahu

>

> > >>11th house- saturn

>

> > >>

>

> > >>Regards,

>

> > >>bhagavathi

>

> > >>

>

> > >>ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta

<vchiranjiv@ ...> wrote:

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>> Dear Bhagvathiji,

>

> > >>>  

>

> > >>> Rahu in 9 th house is giving you education.. Good and interesting.

>

> > >>> Saturn also aspecting sign of exalation. You said Saturn in Aries in 11

th hse.

>

> > >>> Rahu is also giver of knowledge - something which we overlook always.

>

> > >>> Jupiter in 5th ? and where is Mars ?

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>> Thanks & Regards

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>> Chiranjiv Mehta

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>> --- On Tue, 14/7/09, bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ hariharan@ ...>

wrote:

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>> bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ hariharan@ ...>

>

> > >>> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

>

> > >>> ancient_indian_ astrology

>

> > >>> Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 1:24 AM

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>> Dear discussing members,

>

> > >>> I am not very active these days. However, ths post caught my attention-

>

> > >>> //  9th house for rahu is its MKS (maran karak sthan) ,unles if the

cancellation of this MKS awastha isnt happening,Rahu will delivery very

inauspicious results//

>

> > >>> could you tell me how the cancellation of this avastha occurs. I am not

familiar with this and I have not heard of this before. 

>

> > >>> // He wont stay with his family and if he stays there wont too much

harmony between him and family members..... . . It wiil make native very

deceptive,one who will always speak lies and also a sort of traitor..//

>

> > >>> I have rahu in 9th in kumbha,  running this dasha, currently in the fag

end. As far as I know, I am not known to be deceptive, traitor or a liar.. I am

not saying I am a satyavadi, I have told lies ocasionally for fun, those are

white lies. It is true I live away from home and family, but my weekly phone

bills are too high- so I have ties with everyone

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>> // Respected Sreenadhji,

>

> > >>> >     Pranam. Very valuable knowledge you gave us. I am learning " Vedic

Jyotish " . Sir, give detail knowledge about rahu situtated in 9th bhav. It is

Dharma bhav. Rahu will give adverse effect on education, dharma, father. //

>

> > >>> It has not affected my dharma at all. Regarding education, have many

academic degrees and diplomas, still going steady in education, plan to

get atleast two more degrees. Father died in peace. Could have been nice if he

lived more. But that is destiny, all born have to die. How long can a person

live?  

>

> > >>> bhagavathi

>

> > >>>  

>

> > >>>  

>

> > >>>  

>

> > >>>  

>

> > >>>

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Respected Bhaskar ji, & Manoj ji

 

I wanna ask u one more question on it tht if u say if Rahu changes it house in Bhava Chalit then it looses its charcter ( including wat Sreenadh wrote in the begining) . Thanks Mohit

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Respected Sh.Bhaskar ji,

Thanks for the mail. I appreciate your ability to inter-relate the bhava.

Regards.

 

--- On Wed, 7/15/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

 

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish

> Re:Rahu_ 11H

>

> Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 9:57 PM

>

> Dear Shri Kursija ji,

>

> If one earns good money, that means he is involved in some

> work which

> requires attention throughout. In such circumstances peace

> of mind may

> not be there of course.

>

> Because the 3rd house of courage is shattered when the 2nd

> operates, and

> so is the rest part (Enjoyment as in bed rest, indulgence

> in personal

> desires etc.)which comes from 12th which is shattered by

> activation of

> the 11th part. The 6th we already know will never allow

> peace of mind

> when it comes in relations to talks with wealth.

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

>

>

>

> ,

> " S.C. Kursija "

> <sckursija wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > Thanks for the nice predictive technique. No doubt it

> will definitely

> give money. But what about peace of mind?

> > Regards

> >

> >

> > --- On Tue, 7/14/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish

> wrote:

> >

> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish

> > > Re:Rahu_ 11H

> > >

> > > Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 11:20 PM

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Friends,

> > >

> > > I do not know what this thread is about, and I

> have been

> > > busy in some

> > > jewellry exhibition, of which I was a active part

> of, so

> > > did not have

> > > the time to go through the thread. But Rahu will

> be good in

> > > the 11th

> > > only if it is placed ina Nakhsatra Lord who owns

> the

> > > 2nd,11th or the 6th

> > > house of the Horoscope. This is a practical

> principle and a

> > > absolute

> > > correct one, and a predictive principle and not

> just

> > > theoretic. And I am

> > > dealing professionally with at least 5-10 charts

> everyday,

> > > and these

> > > people whom I work for, will not pay me my money

> if I am

> > > wrong, so

> > > please accept this as the truth coming from a

> experienced

> > > and practical

> > > astrologer.

> > >

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---

> > >

> > >

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Dear Mohit ji,

 

I am not aware of this aspect.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, Mohit Virmani

<mohitvirmani33 wrote:

>

> Respected Bhaskar ji, & Manoj ji

>

> I wanna ask u one more question on

it tht if u say if Rahu changes it house in Bhava Chalit then it looses

its charcter ( including wat Sreenadh wrote in the begining) . Thanks

Mohit

>

> --- On Wed, 7/15/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

>

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish

> Re:Rahu_ 11H

>

> Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 5:02 AM

>

>

>

Dear Mohit ji,

>

> Check the position of Rahu in the Bhava Chalit Chart. If it remains in

> the 11th, you will get the gains. Check also where is Saturn placed.

The

> results would be midified accordingly.

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, Mohit Virmani

> <mohitvirmani33@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Bhaskar ji & Manoj ji,

> >

> > In my chart Rahu is in

> 11th house in Naks of lagnesh and 2nd Lord Saturn gave me nothing as u

> have said Sir plz guide, Thanks Mohit

> >

> >

> > --- On Tue, 7/14/09, Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ ... wrote:

> >

> >

> > Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ ...

> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 5:57 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar Ji,

> >

> > Practical experience from a good astrologer is worth its weight in

> Gold !!! Thanks for your insights.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > -Manoj

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Tuesday, July 14, 2009 10:50:07 AM

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Friends,

> >

> > I do not know what this thread is about, and I have been busy in

some

> > jewellry exhibition, of which I was a active part of, so did not

have

> > the time to go through the thread. But Rahu will be good in the 11th

> > only if it is placed ina Nakhsatra Lord who owns the 2nd,11th or the

> 6th

> > house of the Horoscope. This is a practical principle and a absolute

> > correct one, and a predictive principle and not just theoretic. And

I

> am

> > dealing professionally with at least 5-10 charts everyday, and these

> > people whom I work for, will not pay me my money if I am wrong, so

> > please accept this as the truth coming from a experienced and

> practical

> > astrologer.

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

>

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Dear Manoj ji,From the study of a chart with rahu AK which I have, it appears to me the dictum does not hold good where this chart is concerned. The person's troubles started around the exact time the rahu dasa ended and guru dasa began. The opinion expressed by some astrologers that the person will experience much sorrow in life may be true but the opinion that they will not give much sorrow to others , once again, does not hold good in this case. May be an exception of course. Regards, Anita--- On Wed, 15/7/09, renunw <renunw wrote:renunw <renunw Re:Rahu_ 11H Date: Wednesday, 15 July, 2009,

5:46 PM

 

Dear Manoj ji,

 

Thanks for the explanations :)

 

blessings,

 

Renu

 

ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Renu Ji,

>

> I am not very learned in this area but I will comment what I know and others can build on it/ correct me if this is inaccurate. As a general statement my understanding is that AK planets' primary purpose is to guide the native to spiritual enlightenment. Hence during its period (dasha/antar) all other things being considered, it tends to bring difficult circumstances as there seems to be an inevitable link between difficulties and spiritual unfoldment (hence 2 of the 3 moksha houses are dussthanas).

>

> Specifically regards to Rahu: Assuming Rahu is allowable as an AK, if he is the AK, his period especially seems to have the tendency to bring in especially difficult circumstances and sorrow. There is also an opinion prevailing amongst some teachers that a peson with Rahu as AK will see much sorrow in his/her life but will not give sorrow to other people. This needs to be validated by experience. Rahu as AK also has the tendency (again considering the general tenor of the chart in addittion) to make the person very spiritual, especially during his period. It is significant to note that Shri Ramakrishna Paramahansa had Rahu as his AK (if you follow this scheme).

>

> Experienced Jaimini scholars/students can please correct me if I am wrong, because I am not directly studying under any Jaimini teacher/scholar.

>

> Regards,

> -Manoj

>

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> renunw <renunw

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> Tuesday, July 14, 2009 7:11:22 PM

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Manoj ji,

>

> //Isn't the AK's dasha supposed be a more difficult one rather than an easy one? //

>

> If my memory serves me right, I think Sunil Nair ji also mentioned this once when analyzing a difficult period in a chart of a known person He further said that the Dasa of AK planet is called Mrita Planet Dasa.

>

> Manoj ji, can you please explain this...or may be any other learned member would expand on this..

>

> Thanks...

>

> blessings,

>

> Renu

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Deepen Ji,

> >

> > Isn't the AK's dasha supposed be a more difficult one rather than an easy one? I am not too familiar with Jaimini principles so please correct me if I am wrong.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > -Manoj

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > deepen thakkar <justcoolout@ ....>

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Tuesday, July 14, 2009 10:33:25 AM

> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Rahu in 9th can give excellent results if Rahu is the Atma karak..

> > Than the Rahu results will be akin to the results of sun in 9th house...

> > Bhagwathiji can you please tell is rahu the Atmakarak?

> > --- On Tue, 14/7/09, chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv@ . co.in> wrote:

> >

> >

> > >chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv@ . co.in>

> > >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

> > >ancient_indian_ astrology

> > >Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 7:02 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >Bhagvathji,

> > >

> > >Many influences on 5th house and 4th. Total 6 .

> > >Maths, Arts, teaching etc.

> > >Do you have brothers ? Do you support them in any way ?

> > >

> > >Chiranjiv Mehta

> > >

> > >

> > >--- On Tue, 14/7/09, bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ harihara n wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >>bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ harihara n

> > >>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

> > >>ancient_indian_ astrology

> > >>Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 5:56 PM

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>Chiranjeeviji,

> > >>

> > >>lagna- gemini

> > >>3rd house-mars/ketu

> > >>4th house-mer/sun

> > >>5th house-jup-venus

> > >>7th house-moon

> > >>9th house-rahu

> > >>11th house- saturn

> > >>

> > >>Regards,

> > >>bhagavathi

> > >>

> > >>ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv@ ...> wrote:

> > >>>

> > >>> Dear Bhagvathiji,

> > >>>

> > >>> Rahu in 9 th house is giving you education.. Good and interesting.

> > >>> Saturn also aspecting sign of exalation. You said Saturn in Aries in 11 th hse.

> > >>> Rahu is also giver of knowledge - something which we overlook always.

> > >>> Jupiter in 5th ? and where is Mars ?

> > >>>

> > >>> Thanks & Regards

> > >>>

> > >>> Chiranjiv Mehta

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> --- On Tue, 14/7/09, bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ hariharan@ ...> wrote:

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ hariharan@ ...>

> > >>> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

> > >>> ancient_indian_ astrology

> > >>> Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 1:24 AM

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> Dear discussing members,

> > >>> I am not very active these days. However, ths post caught my attention-

> > >>> // 9th house for rahu is its MKS (maran karak sthan) ,unles if the cancellation of this MKS awastha isnt happening,Rahu will delivery very inauspicious results//

> > >>> could you tell me how the cancellation of this avastha occurs. I am not familiar with this and I have not heard of this before.

> > >>> // He wont stay with his family and if he stays there wont too much harmony between him and family members..... . .. It wiil make native very deceptive,one who will always speak lies and also a sort of traitor..//

> > >>> I have rahu in 9th in kumbha, running this dasha, currently in the fag end.. As far as I know, I am not known to be deceptive, traitor or a liar.. I am not saying I am a satyavadi, I have told lies ocasionally for fun, those are white lies. It is true I live away from home and family, but my weekly phone bills are too high- so I have ties with everyone

> > >>>

> > >>> // Respected Sreenadhji,

> > >>> > Pranam. Very valuable knowledge you gave us. I am learning "Vedic Jyotish". Sir, give detail knowledge about rahu situtated in 9th bhav. It is Dharma bhav. Rahu will give adverse effect on education, dharma, father. //

> > >>> It has not affected my dharma at all. Regarding education, have many academic degrees and diplomas, still going steady in education, plan to get atleast two more degrees. Father died in peace. Could have been nice if he lived more. But that is destiny, all born have to die. How long can a person live?

> > >>> bhagavathi

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> Looking for local information? Find it on Local http://in.local. /

> > >>>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz.

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

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>

 

 

 

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Dear Manoj ji and Deepen ji<I understand that people with malefic retro AK (especially saturn in the 12th) have very heavy prarabda karma from past life to work out this time. What about 1) exalted and 2) debilitated AKs? Will the situation be different? I don't mean just in 12th house but in any house?Regards, Anita--- On Wed, 15/7/09, renunw <renunw wrote:renunw <renunw Re:Rahu_ 11H Date: Wednesday, 15 July, 2009, 6:19 PM

 

Dear Manoj ji & Deepen thakkar ji,

 

Thanks....I found the following in an article by Komilla Sutten. It's beautiful... .hence, let me quote her words.

 

//The truly revelation of the soul has to be a personal experience. Atmakaraka shows us the true desires of the soul, whether we recognize them or not depends on us.//

 

blessings,

 

Renu

 

ancient_indian_ astrology, deepen thakkar <justcoolout@ ...> wrote:

>

> MAnoj ji & Reniji,

> AK dasha , as far as i remember Shri Sanjay ji mentioned in one of his article,is the one that gives the native the lessons and teachings of this life ...so in a sense it creates awareness in the native and thus can prove very spiritual... .So it is not good from a materialistic point and due to deprivation based on the houses which AK lords the native tries to seek the spiritual path...Just to explain ,the 5th lord and AK are same ,the native will experience some problems,bitterness from his child that might alter his affection towards his child and lead him to more spiritual path...

>

> --- On Wed, 15/7/09, renunw <renunw wrote:

>

> renunw <renunw

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> Wednesday, 15 July, 2009, 7:41 AM

> Dear Manoj ji,

>

>

>

> //Isn't the AK's dasha supposed be a more difficult one rather than an easy one? //

>

>

>

> If my memory serves me right, I think Sunil Nair ji also mentioned this once when analyzing a difficult period in a chart of a known person He further said that the Dasa of AK planet is called Mrita Planet Dasa.

>

>

>

> Manoj ji, can you please explain this...or may be any other learned member would expand on this..

>

>

>

> Thanks...

>

>

>

> blessings,

>

>

>

> Renu

>

>

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Dear Deepen Ji,

>

> >

>

> > Isn't the AK's dasha supposed be a more difficult one rather than an easy one? I am not too familiar with Jaimini principles so please correct me if I am wrong.

>

> >

>

> > Regards,

>

> >

>

> > -Manoj

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

>

> > deepen thakkar <justcoolout@ ...>

>

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

>

> > Tuesday, July 14, 2009 10:33:25 AM

>

> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Rahu in 9th can give excellent results if Rahu is the Atma karak..

>

> > Than the Rahu results will be akin to the results of sun in 9th house....

>

> > Bhagwathiji can you please tell is rahu the Atmakarak?

>

> > --- On Tue, 14/7/09, chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv@ . co.in> wrote:

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > >chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv@ . co.in>

>

> > >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

>

> > >ancient_indian_ astrology

>

> > >Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 7:02 PM

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >Bhagvathji,

>

> > >

>

> > >Many influences on 5th house and 4th. Total 6 .

>

> > >Maths, Arts, teaching etc.

>

> > >Do you have brothers ? Do you support them in any way ?

>

> > >

>

> > >Chiranjiv Mehta

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >--- On Tue, 14/7/09, bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ harihara n wrote:

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >>bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ harihara n

>

> > >>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

>

> > >>ancient_indian_ astrology

>

> > >>Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 5:56 PM

>

> > >>

>

> > >>

>

> > >>Chiranjeeviji,

>

> > >>

>

> > >>lagna- gemini

>

> > >>3rd house-mars/ketu

>

> > >>4th house-mer/sun

>

> > >>5th house-jup-venus

>

> > >>7th house-moon

>

> > >>9th house-rahu

>

> > >>11th house- saturn

>

> > >>

>

> > >>Regards,

>

> > >>bhagavathi

>

> > >>

>

> > >>ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv@ ...> wrote:

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>> Dear Bhagvathiji,

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>> Rahu in 9 th house is giving you education.. Good and interesting.

>

> > >>> Saturn also aspecting sign of exalation. You said Saturn in Aries in 11 th hse.

>

> > >>> Rahu is also giver of knowledge - something which we overlook always.

>

> > >>> Jupiter in 5th ? and where is Mars ?

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>> Thanks & Regards

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>> Chiranjiv Mehta

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>> --- On Tue, 14/7/09, bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ hariharan@ ...> wrote:

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>> bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ hariharan@ ...>

>

> > >>> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

>

> > >>> ancient_indian_ astrology

>

> > >>> Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 1:24 AM

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>> Dear discussing members,

>

> > >>> I am not very active these days. However, ths post caught my attention-

>

> > >>> // 9th house for rahu is its MKS (maran karak sthan) ,unles if the cancellation of this MKS awastha isnt happening,Rahu will delivery very inauspicious results//

>

> > >>> could you tell me how the cancellation of this avastha occurs. I am not familiar with this and I have not heard of this before.

>

> > >>> // He wont stay with his family and if he stays there wont too much harmony between him and family members..... . . It wiil make native very deceptive,one who will always speak lies and also a sort of traitor..//

>

> > >>> I have rahu in 9th in kumbha, running this dasha, currently in the fag end. As far as I know, I am not known to be deceptive, traitor or a liar.. I am not saying I am a satyavadi, I have told lies ocasionally for fun, those are white lies. It is true I live away from home and family, but my weekly phone bills are too high- so I have ties with everyone

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>> // Respected Sreenadhji,

>

> > >>> > Pranam. Very valuable knowledge you gave us. I am learning "Vedic Jyotish". Sir, give detail knowledge about rahu situtated in 9th bhav. It is Dharma bhav. Rahu will give adverse effect on education, dharma, father. //

>

> > >>> It has not affected my dharma at all. Regarding education, have many academic degrees and diplomas, still going steady in education, plan to get atleast two more degrees. Father died in peace. Could have been nice if he lived more. But that is destiny, all born have to die. How long can a person live?

>

> > >>> bhagavathi

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>> Looking for local information? Find it on Local http://in.local. /

>

> > >>>

>

> > >>

>

> > >>

>

> > >

>

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

>

> > See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz.

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Dear Anita Ji,

 

First I have to admire youself and Renu Ji for right away searching through your database of charts when any new astro theory is talked about. It is really admirable and I am able to learn so much from the examples you both share.

 

//The opinion expressed by some astrologers that the person will experience much sorrow in life may be true but the opinion that they will not give much sorrow to others , once again, does not hold good in this case. May be an exception of course.//

 

This specifically was Shri Sanjay Rath Ji's opinion that I heard in one of his recorded talks on Navamsha. I am unable to comment further than that because I am not his direct student and I have been focussing on deepening Parashari principles instead of diving deep into Jaimini ones. I was hoping others on the forum could comment on this.

 

//Dear Manoj ji,From the study of a chart with rahu AK which I have, it appears to me the dictum does not hold good where this chart is concerned. The person's troubles started around the exact time the rahu dasa ended and guru dasa began//

 

This I can comment on because I have heard this from more than one teacher. My understanding is this: After one has analyzed the AK as you would any regular planet, one has to expect slightly more negative results from its Dasha because it is an AK. So this concept is only a modifier and not a dramatic shift (according to my understanding). So it not surprising what you are seing.

 

Regards,

 

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

Anita R <ash.rsh55 Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:38:24 PMRe: Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

 

 

 

Dear Manoj ji,From the study of a chart with rahu AK which I have, it appears to me the dictum does not hold good where this chart is concerned. The person's troubles started around the exact time the rahu dasa ended and guru dasa began. The opinion expressed by some astrologers that the person will experience much sorrow in life may be true but the opinion that they will not give much sorrow to others , once again, does not hold good in this case. May be an exception of course. Regards, Anita--- On Wed, 15/7/09, renunw <renunw (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

renunw <renunw (AT) (DOT) co.uk>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11Hancient_indian_ astrologyWednesday, 15 July, 2009, 5:46 PM

 

 

Dear Manoj ji,Thanks for the explanations :)blessings,Renuancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Renu Ji,> > I am not very learned in this area but I will comment what I know and others can build on it/ correct me if this is inaccurate. As a general statement my understanding is that AK planets' primary purpose is to guide the native to spiritual enlightenment. Hence during its period (dasha/antar) all other things being considered, it tends to bring difficult circumstances as there seems to be an inevitable link between difficulties and spiritual unfoldment (hence 2 of the 3 moksha houses are dussthanas).> > Specifically regards to Rahu: Assuming Rahu is allowable as an AK, if he is the AK, his period especially seems to have the tendency to bring in especially

difficult circumstances and sorrow. There is also an opinion prevailing amongst some teachers that a peson with Rahu as AK will see much sorrow in his/her life but will not give sorrow to other people. This needs to be validated by experience. Rahu as AK also has the tendency (again considering the general tenor of the chart in addittion) to make the person very spiritual, especially during his period. It is significant to note that Shri Ramakrishna Paramahansa had Rahu as his AK (if you follow this scheme).> > Experienced Jaimini scholars/students can please correct me if I am wrong, because I am not directly studying under any Jaimini teacher/scholar.> > Regards,> -Manoj> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> renunw <renunw> ancient_indian_ astrology>

Tuesday, July 14, 2009 7:11:22 PM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H> > > > > > Dear Manoj ji,> > //Isn't the AK's dasha supposed be a more difficult one rather than an easy one? //> > If my memory serves me right, I think Sunil Nair ji also mentioned this once when analyzing a difficult period in a chart of a known person He further said that the Dasa of AK planet is called Mrita Planet Dasa.> > Manoj ji, can you please explain this...or may be any other learned member would expand on this..> > Thanks...> > blessings,> > Renu> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Deepen Ji,> > > > Isn't the AK's dasha supposed be a more difficult one rather than an easy one? I am

not too familiar with Jaimini principles so please correct me if I am wrong.> > > > Regards,> > > > -Manoj> > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > deepen thakkar <justcoolout@ ....>> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Tuesday, July 14, 2009 10:33:25 AM> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H> > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu in 9th can give excellent results if Rahu is the Atma karak..> > Than the Rahu results will be akin to the results of sun in 9th house...> > Bhagwathiji can you please tell is rahu the Atmakarak?> > --- On Tue, 14/7/09, chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv@ . co.in>

wrote:> > > > > > >chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv@ . co.in>> > >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H> > >ancient_indian_ astrology> > >Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 7:02 PM> > >> > >> > >Bhagvathji,> > >> > >Many influences on 5th house and 4th. Total 6 .> > >Maths, Arts, teaching etc.> > >Do you have brothers ? Do you support them in any way ?> > >> > >Chiranjiv Mehta> > >> > >> > >--- On Tue, 14/7/09, bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ harihara n wrote:> > >> > >> > >>bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ harihara n> > >>Subject:

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H> > >>ancient_indian_ astrology> > >>Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 5:56 PM> > >>> > >>> > >>Chiranjeeviji,> > >>> > >>lagna- gemini> > >>3rd house-mars/ketu> > >>4th house-mer/sun> > >>5th house-jup-venus> > >>7th house-moon> > >>9th house-rahu> > >>11th house- saturn> > >>> > >>Regards,> > >>bhagavathi> > >>> > >>ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv@ ...> wrote:> > >>>> > >>> Dear Bhagvathiji,> > >>> > > >>> Rahu in 9 th house is giving you education.. Good and

interesting.> > >>> Saturn also aspecting sign of exalation. You said Saturn in Aries in 11 th hse.> > >>> Rahu is also giver of knowledge - something which we overlook always.> > >>> Jupiter in 5th ? and where is Mars ?> > >>> > > >>> Thanks & Regards> > >>> > > >>> Chiranjiv Mehta> > >>> > > >>> > > >>> --- On Tue, 14/7/09, bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ hariharan@ ...> wrote:> > >>> > > >>> > > >>> bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ hariharan@ ...>> > >>> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H> > >>> ancient_indian_ astrology> > >>> Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 1:24 AM> >

>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Dear discussing members,> > >>> I am not very active these days. However, ths post caught my attention-> > >>> // 9th house for rahu is its MKS (maran karak sthan) ,unles if the cancellation of this MKS awastha isnt happening,Rahu will delivery very inauspicious results//> > >>> could you tell me how the cancellation of this avastha occurs. I am not familiar with this and I have not heard of this before. > > >>> // He wont stay with his family and if he stays there wont too much harmony between him and family members..... . .. It wiil make native very deceptive,one who will always speak lies and also a sort of

traitor..//> > >>> I have rahu in 9th in kumbha, running this dasha, currently in the fag end.. As far as I know, I am not known to be deceptive, traitor or a liar.. I am not saying I am a satyavadi, I have told lies ocasionally for fun, those are white lies. It is true I live away from home and family, but my weekly phone bills are too high- so I have ties with everyone> > >>> > > >>> // Respected Sreenadhji,> > >>> > Pranam. Very valuable knowledge you gave us. I am learning "Vedic Jyotish". Sir, give detail knowledge about rahu situtated in 9th bhav. It is Dharma bhav. Rahu will give adverse effect on education, dharma, father. //> > >>> It has not affected my dharma at all. Regarding education, have many academic degrees and diplomas, still going steady in education, plan to

get atleast two more degrees. Father died in peace. Could have been nice if he lived more. But that is destiny, all born have to die. How long can a person live? > > >>> bhagavathi> > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Looking for local information? Find it on Local http://in.local. /> > >>>> >

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According to seven karaka scheme, Rahu becomes no karaka ever.

 

regards,

 

Mouji

 

 

 

Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 5:32:34 PMRe: Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

 

 

 

Dear Mouji Ji,

 

I followed that link as well and seems like PVR Ji's comments indicate that Rahu can be AK. Even if it does become AK, according to Shri Sanjay Rath Ji's teachings one has to subtract the Rahu's degrees from 30 to determine his AK status. So you can see that if you dont do this then even if you do consider Rahu, you might get a different answer.

 

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

Manoj Kumar <mouji99 >ancient_indian_ astrologyTuesday, July 14, 2009 9:52:26 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

 

 

Does Rahu become Atmakaraka?

 

regards,

 

Manoj (Mouji)

 

 

 

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>ancient_indian_ astrologyWednesday, July 15, 2009 9:33:38 AM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

Dear Bohra ji,Nic to see you back here. I was feeling the pain of guilt in yourabsence. I read your link. It is good and asnwers my doubts very well.As regards to interpretation of Sanskrit shlokas nobody can do it betterthan Shri PVR Narsimharao ji. I believe his interpretations as right .regards/Bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, "msbohra62"<msbohra62@. ..> wrote:>>> Dear Bhashkar ji and Deepen ji,>> Please see the link if it help any for yours quarries :->> http://groups. / group/sohamsa/ message/18760>> Thanks,>> M.S.Bohra>>> ---

In ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> >> > Are we sure that the Nodes can be considered as the "Atmakaraka" ?(I do> > not know, hence asking). In any case Rahu in the 9th if the 9th is a> > badhaksthana will not produce good results, the way it is expectedto.> >> > I am talking without reference to any example .> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, deepen thakkar> > <justcoolout@ >

wrote:> > >> > > Rahu in 9th can give excellent results if Rahu is the Atma karak..> > > Than the Rahu results will be akin to the results of sun in 9th> > house...> > > Bhagwathiji can you please tell is rahu the Atmakarak?> > > --- On Tue, 14/7/09, chiranjiv mehta vchiranjiv@ wrote:> > >> > > chiranjiv mehta vchiranjiv@> > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 7:02 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>

> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Bhagvathji,> > >> > > Many influences on 5th house and 4th. Total 6 .> > > Maths, Arts, teaching etc.> > > Do you have brothers ? Do you support them in any way ?> > >> > > Chiranjiv Mehta> > >> > >> > > --- On Tue, 14/7/09, bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ harihara> > n wrote:> > >> > >> > > bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ harihara n> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H> > > To:

ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 5:56 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Chiranjeeviji,> > >> > > lagna- gemini> > > 3rd house-mars/ketu> > > 4th house-mer/sun> > > 5th house-jup-venus> > > 7th house-moon> > > 9th house-rahu> > > 11th house- saturn> > >> > > Regards,> > > bhagavathi> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjivmehta> > <vchiranjiv@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Bhagvathiji,> > > >> > > > Rahu in 9 th house is giving you education.. Good andinteresting.> > > > Saturn also aspecting sign of exalation. You said Saturn inAries

in> > 11 th hse.> > > > Rahu is also giver of knowledge - something which we overlook> > always.> > > > Jupiter in 5th ? and where is Mars ?> > > >> > > > Thanks & Regards> > > >> > > > Chiranjiv Mehta> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 14/7/09, bhagavathi_harihara n> > > <bhagavathi_ hariharan@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ hariharan@ ...>> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 1:24 AM> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >

>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear discussing members,> > > > I am not very active these days. However, ths post caught my> > attention-> > > > // 9th house for rahu is its MKS (maran karak sthan) ,unles ifthe> > cancellation of this MKS awastha isnt happening,Rahu will deliveryvery> > inauspicious results//> > > > could you tell me how the cancellation of this avastha occurs. Iam> > not familiar with this and I have> > > not heard of this before.> > > > // He wont stay with his family and if he stays there wont toomuch> > harmony between him and family members..... . It wiil make nativevery> > deceptive,one who will always speak lies and also a sort oftraitor..//> > > > I have rahu in 9th in kumbha, running this

dasha, currently inthe> > fag end. As far as I know, I am not known to be deceptive, traitoror a> > liar.. I am not saying I am a satyavadi, I have told liesocasionally> > for fun, those are white lies. It is true I live away from home and> > family, but my weekly phone bills are too high- so I have ties with> > everyone> > > >> > > > // Respected Sreenadhji,> > > > > Pranam. Very valuable knowledge you gave us. I am learning> > "Vedic Jyotish". Sir, give detail knowledge about rahu situtated in9th> > bhav. It is Dharma bhav. Rahu will give adverse effect on education,> > dharma, father. //> > > > It> > > has not affected my dharma at all. Regarding education, have many> > academic degrees and diplomas, still going steady in education, planto> > get atleast

two more degrees. Father died in peace. Could have beennice> > if he lived more. But that is destiny, all born have to die. Howlong> > can a person live?> > > > bhagavathi> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Looking for local information? Find it on Local> > http://in.local. /> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > > See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by

people like you. Checkout> > Buzz.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet> > Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> > >> >>

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Dear Mouji Ji,

 

Yes. But PVR ji is the Jyotish guru at SJC and does not follow the 7 karaka scheme but follows the 8 karaka scheme. If you ask me honestly these two sides may never come together. Those loyal to Shri KN Rao Ji will follow 7 karaka scheme. Those loyal to Shri Sanjay Rath Ji will follow 8 karaka scheme.

 

Two lines of Mark Twain are often quoted :

"Oh, East is East, and West is West, and never the two shall meet,"

 

However, two more lines are never quoted:

 

 

 

 

But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,

95

 

When two strong men stand face to face, tho’ they come from the ends of the earth.

"But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,

When two strong men stand face to face, tho’ they come from the ends of the earth".

 

 

 

 

But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,

95

 

When two strong men stand face to face, tho’ they come from the ends of the earth Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

Manoj Kumar <mouji99 Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 9:48:25 PMRe: Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

 

According to seven karaka scheme, Rahu becomes no karaka ever.

 

regards,

 

Mouji

 

 

 

Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >ancient_indian_ astrologyWednesday, July 15, 2009 5:32:34 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

 

 

 

Dear Mouji Ji,

 

I followed that link as well and seems like PVR Ji's comments indicate that Rahu can be AK. Even if it does become AK, according to Shri Sanjay Rath Ji's teachings one has to subtract the Rahu's degrees from 30 to determine his AK status. So you can see that if you dont do this then even if you do consider Rahu, you might get a different answer.

 

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

Manoj Kumar <mouji99 >ancient_indian_ astrologyTuesday, July 14, 2009 9:52:26 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

 

 

Does Rahu become Atmakaraka?

 

regards,

 

Manoj (Mouji)

 

 

 

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>ancient_indian_ astrologyWednesday, July 15, 2009 9:33:38 AM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

Dear Bohra ji,Nic to see you back here. I was feeling the pain of guilt in yourabsence. I read your link. It is good and asnwers my doubts very well.As regards to interpretation of Sanskrit shlokas nobody can do it betterthan Shri PVR Narsimharao ji. I believe his interpretations as right .regards/Bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, "msbohra62"<msbohra62@. ..> wrote:>>> Dear Bhashkar ji and Deepen ji,>> Please see the link if it help any for yours quarries :->> http://groups. / group/sohamsa/ message/18760>> Thanks,>> M.S.Bohra>>> ---

In ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> >> > Are we sure that the Nodes can be considered as the "Atmakaraka" ?(I do> > not know, hence asking). In any case Rahu in the 9th if the 9th is a> > badhaksthana will not produce good results, the way it is expectedto.> >> > I am talking without reference to any example .> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, deepen thakkar> > <justcoolout@ >

wrote:> > >> > > Rahu in 9th can give excellent results if Rahu is the Atma karak..> > > Than the Rahu results will be akin to the results of sun in 9th> > house...> > > Bhagwathiji can you please tell is rahu the Atmakarak?> > > --- On Tue, 14/7/09, chiranjiv mehta vchiranjiv@ wrote:> > >> > > chiranjiv mehta vchiranjiv@> > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 7:02 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>

> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Bhagvathji,> > >> > > Many influences on 5th house and 4th. Total 6 .> > > Maths, Arts, teaching etc.> > > Do you have brothers ? Do you support them in any way ?> > >> > > Chiranjiv Mehta> > >> > >> > > --- On Tue, 14/7/09, bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ harihara> > n wrote:> > >> > >> > > bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ harihara n> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H> > > To:

ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 5:56 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Chiranjeeviji,> > >> > > lagna- gemini> > > 3rd house-mars/ketu> > > 4th house-mer/sun> > > 5th house-jup-venus> > > 7th house-moon> > > 9th house-rahu> > > 11th house- saturn> > >> > > Regards,> > > bhagavathi> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjivmehta> > <vchiranjiv@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Bhagvathiji,> > > >> > > > Rahu in 9 th house is giving you education.. Good andinteresting.> > > > Saturn also aspecting sign of exalation. You said Saturn inAries

in> > 11 th hse.> > > > Rahu is also giver of knowledge - something which we overlook> > always.> > > > Jupiter in 5th ? and where is Mars ?> > > >> > > > Thanks & Regards> > > >> > > > Chiranjiv Mehta> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 14/7/09, bhagavathi_harihara n> > > <bhagavathi_ hariharan@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ hariharan@ ...>> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 1:24 AM> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >

>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear discussing members,> > > > I am not very active these days. However, ths post caught my> > attention-> > > > // 9th house for rahu is its MKS (maran karak sthan) ,unles ifthe> > cancellation of this MKS awastha isnt happening,Rahu will deliveryvery> > inauspicious results//> > > > could you tell me how the cancellation of this avastha occurs. Iam> > not familiar with this and I have> > > not heard of this before.> > > > // He wont stay with his family and if he stays there wont toomuch> > harmony between him and family members..... . It wiil make nativevery> > deceptive,one who will always speak lies and also a sort oftraitor..//> > > > I have rahu in 9th in kumbha, running this

dasha, currently inthe> > fag end. As far as I know, I am not known to be deceptive, traitoror a> > liar.. I am not saying I am a satyavadi, I have told liesocasionally> > for fun, those are white lies. It is true I live away from home and> > family, but my weekly phone bills are too high- so I have ties with> > everyone> > > >> > > > // Respected Sreenadhji,> > > > > Pranam. Very valuable knowledge you gave us. I am learning> > "Vedic Jyotish". Sir, give detail knowledge about rahu situtated in9th> > bhav. It is Dharma bhav. Rahu will give adverse effect on education,> > dharma, father. //> > > > It> > > has not affected my dharma at all. Regarding education, have many> > academic degrees and diplomas, still going steady in education, planto> > get atleast

two more degrees. Father died in peace. Could have beennice> > if he lived more. But that is destiny, all born have to die. Howlong> > can a person live?> > > > bhagavathi> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Looking for local information? Find it on Local> > http://in.local. /> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > > See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by

people like you. Checkout> > Buzz.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet> > Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> > >> >>

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Sorry I pasted those last two lines too many times

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 10:14:19 PMRe: Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

 

 

Dear Mouji Ji,

 

Yes. But PVR ji is the Jyotish guru at SJC and does not follow the 7 karaka scheme but follows the 8 karaka scheme. If you ask me honestly these two sides may never come together. Those loyal to Shri KN Rao Ji will follow 7 karaka scheme. Those loyal to Shri Sanjay Rath Ji will follow 8 karaka scheme.

 

Two lines of Mark Twain are often quoted :

"Oh, East is East, and West is West, and never the two shall meet,"

 

However, two more lines are never quoted:

 

 

 

 

But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,

95

 

When two strong men stand face to face, tho’ they come from the ends of the earth.

"But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,

When two strong men stand face to face, tho’ they come from the ends of the earth".

 

 

 

 

But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,

95

 

When two strong men stand face to face, tho’ they come from the ends of the earth Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

Manoj Kumar <mouji99 >ancient_indian_ astrologyThursday, July 16, 2009 9:48:25 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

 

According to seven karaka scheme, Rahu becomes no karaka ever.

 

regards,

 

Mouji

 

 

 

Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >ancient_indian_ astrologyWednesday, July 15, 2009 5:32:34 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

 

 

 

Dear Mouji Ji,

 

I followed that link as well and seems like PVR Ji's comments indicate that Rahu can be AK. Even if it does become AK, according to Shri Sanjay Rath Ji's teachings one has to subtract the Rahu's degrees from 30 to determine his AK status. So you can see that if you dont do this then even if you do consider Rahu, you might get a different answer.

 

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

Manoj Kumar <mouji99 >ancient_indian_ astrologyTuesday, July 14, 2009 9:52:26 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

 

 

Does Rahu become Atmakaraka?

 

regards,

 

Manoj (Mouji)

 

 

 

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>ancient_indian_ astrologyWednesday, July 15, 2009 9:33:38 AM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

Dear Bohra ji,Nic to see you back here. I was feeling the pain of guilt in yourabsence. I read your link. It is good and asnwers my doubts very well.As regards to interpretation of Sanskrit shlokas nobody can do it betterthan Shri PVR Narsimharao ji. I believe his interpretations as right .regards/Bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, "msbohra62"<msbohra62@. ..> wrote:>>> Dear Bhashkar ji and Deepen ji,>> Please see the link if it help any for yours quarries :->> http://groups. / group/sohamsa/ message/18760>> Thanks,>> M.S.Bohra>>> ---

In ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> >> > Are we sure that the Nodes can be considered as the "Atmakaraka" ?(I do> > not know, hence asking). In any case Rahu in the 9th if the 9th is a> > badhaksthana will not produce good results, the way it is expectedto.> >> > I am talking without reference to any example .> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, deepen thakkar> > <justcoolout@ >

wrote:> > >> > > Rahu in 9th can give excellent results if Rahu is the Atma karak..> > > Than the Rahu results will be akin to the results of sun in 9th> > house...> > > Bhagwathiji can you please tell is rahu the Atmakarak?> > > --- On Tue, 14/7/09, chiranjiv mehta vchiranjiv@ wrote:> > >> > > chiranjiv mehta vchiranjiv@> > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 7:02 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>

> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Bhagvathji,> > >> > > Many influences on 5th house and 4th. Total 6 .> > > Maths, Arts, teaching etc.> > > Do you have brothers ? Do you support them in any way ?> > >> > > Chiranjiv Mehta> > >> > >> > > --- On Tue, 14/7/09, bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ harihara> > n wrote:> > >> > >> > > bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ harihara n> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H> > > To:

ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 5:56 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Chiranjeeviji,> > >> > > lagna- gemini> > > 3rd house-mars/ketu> > > 4th house-mer/sun> > > 5th house-jup-venus> > > 7th house-moon> > > 9th house-rahu> > > 11th house- saturn> > >> > > Regards,> > > bhagavathi> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjivmehta> > <vchiranjiv@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Bhagvathiji,> > > >> > > > Rahu in 9 th house is giving you education.. Good andinteresting.> > > > Saturn also aspecting sign of exalation. You said Saturn inAries

in> > 11 th hse.> > > > Rahu is also giver of knowledge - something which we overlook> > always.> > > > Jupiter in 5th ? and where is Mars ?> > > >> > > > Thanks & Regards> > > >> > > > Chiranjiv Mehta> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 14/7/09, bhagavathi_harihara n> > > <bhagavathi_ hariharan@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ hariharan@ ...>> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 1:24 AM> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >

>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear discussing members,> > > > I am not very active these days. However, ths post caught my> > attention-> > > > // 9th house for rahu is its MKS (maran karak sthan) ,unles ifthe> > cancellation of this MKS awastha isnt happening,Rahu will deliveryvery> > inauspicious results//> > > > could you tell me how the cancellation of this avastha occurs. Iam> > not familiar with this and I have> > > not heard of this before.> > > > // He wont stay with his family and if he stays there wont toomuch> > harmony between him and family members..... . It wiil make nativevery> > deceptive,one who will always speak lies and also a sort oftraitor..//> > > > I have rahu in 9th in kumbha, running this

dasha, currently inthe> > fag end. As far as I know, I am not known to be deceptive, traitoror a> > liar.. I am not saying I am a satyavadi, I have told liesocasionally> > for fun, those are white lies. It is true I live away from home and> > family, but my weekly phone bills are too high- so I have ties with> > everyone> > > >> > > > // Respected Sreenadhji,> > > > > Pranam. Very valuable knowledge you gave us. I am learning> > "Vedic Jyotish". Sir, give detail knowledge about rahu situtated in9th> > bhav. It is Dharma bhav. Rahu will give adverse effect on education,> > dharma, father. //> > > > It> > > has not affected my dharma at all. Regarding education, have many> > academic degrees and diplomas, still going steady in education, planto> > get atleast

two more degrees. Father died in peace. Could have beennice> > if he lived more. But that is destiny, all born have to die. Howlong> > can a person live?> > > > bhagavathi> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Looking for local information? Find it on Local> > http://in.local. /> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > > See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by

people like you. Checkout> > Buzz.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet> > Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> > >> >>

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He is free to adopt whatever he feels like and teach also whatever they feel like.

 

As they say, Proof of the Pudding is in eating.

 

regards,

 

Mouji

 

 

 

Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:44:19 AMRe: Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

 

 

Dear Mouji Ji,

 

Yes. But PVR ji is the Jyotish guru at SJC and does not follow the 7 karaka scheme but follows the 8 karaka scheme. If you ask me honestly these two sides may never come together. Those loyal to Shri KN Rao Ji will follow 7 karaka scheme. Those loyal to Shri Sanjay Rath Ji will follow 8 karaka scheme.

 

Two lines of Mark Twain are often quoted :

"Oh, East is East, and West is West, and never the two shall meet,"

 

However, two more lines are never quoted:

 

 

 

 

But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,

95

 

When two strong men stand face to face, tho’ they come from the ends of the earth.

"But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,

When two strong men stand face to face, tho’ they come from the ends of the earth".

 

 

 

 

But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,

95

 

When two strong men stand face to face, tho’ they come from the ends of the earth Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

Manoj Kumar <mouji99 >ancient_indian_ astrologyThursday, July 16, 2009 9:48:25 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

 

According to seven karaka scheme, Rahu becomes no karaka ever.

 

regards,

 

Mouji

 

 

 

Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >ancient_indian_ astrologyWednesday, July 15, 2009 5:32:34 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

 

 

 

Dear Mouji Ji,

 

I followed that link as well and seems like PVR Ji's comments indicate that Rahu can be AK. Even if it does become AK, according to Shri Sanjay Rath Ji's teachings one has to subtract the Rahu's degrees from 30 to determine his AK status. So you can see that if you dont do this then even if you do consider Rahu, you might get a different answer.

 

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

Manoj Kumar <mouji99 >ancient_indian_ astrologyTuesday, July 14, 2009 9:52:26 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

 

 

Does Rahu become Atmakaraka?

 

regards,

 

Manoj (Mouji)

 

 

 

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>ancient_indian_ astrologyWednesday, July 15, 2009 9:33:38 AM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

Dear Bohra ji,Nic to see you back here. I was feeling the pain of guilt in yourabsence. I read your link. It is good and asnwers my doubts very well.As regards to interpretation of Sanskrit shlokas nobody can do it betterthan Shri PVR Narsimharao ji. I believe his interpretations as right .regards/Bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, "msbohra62"<msbohra62@. ..> wrote:>>> Dear Bhashkar ji and Deepen ji,>> Please see the link if it help any for yours quarries :->> http://groups. / group/sohamsa/ message/18760>> Thanks,>> M.S.Bohra>>> ---

In ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> >> > Are we sure that the Nodes can be considered as the "Atmakaraka" ?(I do> > not know, hence asking). In any case Rahu in the 9th if the 9th is a> > badhaksthana will not produce good results, the way it is expectedto.> >> > I am talking without reference to any example .> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, deepen thakkar> > <justcoolout@ >

wrote:> > >> > > Rahu in 9th can give excellent results if Rahu is the Atma karak..> > > Than the Rahu results will be akin to the results of sun in 9th> > house...> > > Bhagwathiji can you please tell is rahu the Atmakarak?> > > --- On Tue, 14/7/09, chiranjiv mehta vchiranjiv@ wrote:> > >> > > chiranjiv mehta vchiranjiv@> > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 7:02 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>

> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Bhagvathji,> > >> > > Many influences on 5th house and 4th. Total 6 .> > > Maths, Arts, teaching etc.> > > Do you have brothers ? Do you support them in any way ?> > >> > > Chiranjiv Mehta> > >> > >> > > --- On Tue, 14/7/09, bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ harihara> > n wrote:> > >> > >> > > bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ harihara n> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H> > > To:

ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 5:56 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Chiranjeeviji,> > >> > > lagna- gemini> > > 3rd house-mars/ketu> > > 4th house-mer/sun> > > 5th house-jup-venus> > > 7th house-moon> > > 9th house-rahu> > > 11th house- saturn> > >> > > Regards,> > > bhagavathi> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjivmehta> > <vchiranjiv@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Bhagvathiji,> > > >> > > > Rahu in 9 th house is giving you education.. Good andinteresting.> > > > Saturn also aspecting sign of exalation. You said Saturn inAries

in> > 11 th hse.> > > > Rahu is also giver of knowledge - something which we overlook> > always.> > > > Jupiter in 5th ? and where is Mars ?> > > >> > > > Thanks & Regards> > > >> > > > Chiranjiv Mehta> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 14/7/09, bhagavathi_harihara n> > > <bhagavathi_ hariharan@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ hariharan@ ...>> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 1:24 AM> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >

>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear discussing members,> > > > I am not very active these days. However, ths post caught my> > attention-> > > > // 9th house for rahu is its MKS (maran karak sthan) ,unles ifthe> > cancellation of this MKS awastha isnt happening,Rahu will deliveryvery> > inauspicious results//> > > > could you tell me how the cancellation of this avastha occurs. Iam> > not familiar with this and I have> > > not heard of this before.> > > > // He wont stay with his family and if he stays there wont toomuch> > harmony between him and family members..... . It wiil make nativevery> > deceptive,one who will always speak lies and also a sort oftraitor..//> > > > I have rahu in 9th in kumbha, running this

dasha, currently inthe> > fag end. As far as I know, I am not known to be deceptive, traitoror a> > liar.. I am not saying I am a satyavadi, I have told liesocasionally> > for fun, those are white lies. It is true I live away from home and> > family, but my weekly phone bills are too high- so I have ties with> > everyone> > > >> > > > // Respected Sreenadhji,> > > > > Pranam. Very valuable knowledge you gave us. I am learning> > "Vedic Jyotish". Sir, give detail knowledge about rahu situtated in9th> > bhav. It is Dharma bhav. Rahu will give adverse effect on education,> > dharma, father. //> > > > It> > > has not affected my dharma at all. Regarding education, have many> > academic degrees and diplomas, still going steady in education, planto> > get atleast

two more degrees. Father died in peace. Could have beennice> > if he lived more. But that is destiny, all born have to die. Howlong> > can a person live?> > > > bhagavathi> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Looking for local information? Find it on Local> > http://in.local. /> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > > See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by

people like you. Checkout> > Buzz.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet> > Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> > >> >>

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Dear Manoj (Mouji) Ji,

 

Here is the problem. It is very difficult to objectively validate the efficacy of one particular theory, especially if it is used in an integrated approach (Parashari + Jaimini). If the practising astrologers are also intelligent and strong in the Parashari principles, they will get the predictions correct any way. So that does not prove that their Jamini principles are accurate, does it? This is why I dont see how these things can be categorically proven, one way or the other. I think it is up to each of us to evaluate each system and adopt whichever passes our practical tests.

 

I also feel (my humble pesonal opinion) that those that argue that these two principles should not be mixed together may have a valid point. Jyotish was always an orally transmitted system. If this system was truly an integrated approach, why aren't there more oral traditions with such integrated approach? Why aren't there more classics supporting this integrated approach? Was Parashara really the author of the BPHS as it is currently published, or is the current version a compilation effort from various sources and when that effort was done, different systems were mixed together?

So when some one says, "Parashara says this so it must be true (regarding the integrated system)", then what they are really saying is "The author of BPHS says this, so it must be true". Is the author of BPHS really Parashara?

 

Ofcourse I am neither a sanskrit scholar nor an accomplished astrologer but that does not prevent me from having a probing mind and ask these questions. However, if some one says " Look, I dont care if Parashara really authored this or not, I tried these two different techniques together, I experimented with it, it works, I like it, so leave me alone", then I am fine with that too.. Experimentation is good as long as we declare it is an experiment and it is a novel approach, but not really an "ancient approach".

 

So after a really circular route, I think the pivotal question becomes, is BPHS as it stands today, really "Ancient Indian Astrology"? Is it fair to use that as an argument to state that Parashari + Jaimini principles, used in an integrated approach, has classical sanction?

 

May be Sreenadh Ji and others throw some light on this?

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

Manoj Kumar <mouji99 Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 1:15:02 AMRe: Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

 

He is free to adopt whatever he feels like and teach also whatever they feel like.

 

As they say, Proof of the Pudding is in eating.

 

regards,

 

Mouji

 

 

 

Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >ancient_indian_ astrologyFriday, July 17, 2009 10:44:19 AMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

 

 

Dear Mouji Ji,

 

Yes. But PVR ji is the Jyotish guru at SJC and does not follow the 7 karaka scheme but follows the 8 karaka scheme. If you ask me honestly these two sides may never come together. Those loyal to Shri KN Rao Ji will follow 7 karaka scheme. Those loyal to Shri Sanjay Rath Ji will follow 8 karaka scheme.

 

Two lines of Mark Twain are often quoted :

"Oh, East is East, and West is West, and never the two shall meet,"

 

However, two more lines are never quoted:

 

 

 

 

But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,

95

 

When two strong men stand face to face, tho’ they come from the ends of the earth.

"But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,

When two strong men stand face to face, tho’ they come from the ends of the earth".

 

 

 

 

But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,

95

 

When two strong men stand face to face, tho’ they come from the ends of the earth Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

Manoj Kumar <mouji99 >ancient_indian_ astrologyThursday, July 16, 2009 9:48:25 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

 

According to seven karaka scheme, Rahu becomes no karaka ever.

 

regards,

 

Mouji

 

 

 

Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >ancient_indian_ astrologyWednesday, July 15, 2009 5:32:34 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

 

 

 

Dear Mouji Ji,

 

I followed that link as well and seems like PVR Ji's comments indicate that Rahu can be AK. Even if it does become AK, according to Shri Sanjay Rath Ji's teachings one has to subtract the Rahu's degrees from 30 to determine his AK status. So you can see that if you dont do this then even if you do consider Rahu, you might get a different answer.

 

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

Manoj Kumar <mouji99 >ancient_indian_ astrologyTuesday, July 14, 2009 9:52:26 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

 

 

Does Rahu become Atmakaraka?

 

regards,

 

Manoj (Mouji)

 

 

 

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>ancient_indian_ astrologyWednesday, July 15, 2009 9:33:38 AM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

Dear Bohra ji,Nic to see you back here. I was feeling the pain of guilt in yourabsence. I read your link. It is good and asnwers my doubts very well.As regards to interpretation of Sanskrit shlokas nobody can do it betterthan Shri PVR Narsimharao ji. I believe his interpretations as right .regards/Bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, "msbohra62"<msbohra62@. ..> wrote:>>> Dear Bhashkar ji and Deepen ji,>> Please see the link if it help any for yours quarries :->> http://groups. / group/sohamsa/ message/18760>> Thanks,>> M.S.Bohra>>> ---

In ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> >> > Are we sure that the Nodes can be considered as the "Atmakaraka" ?(I do> > not know, hence asking). In any case Rahu in the 9th if the 9th is a> > badhaksthana will not produce good results, the way it is expectedto.> >> > I am talking without reference to any example .> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, deepen thakkar> > <justcoolout@ >

wrote:> > >> > > Rahu in 9th can give excellent results if Rahu is the Atma karak..> > > Than the Rahu results will be akin to the results of sun in 9th> > house...> > > Bhagwathiji can you please tell is rahu the Atmakarak?> > > --- On Tue, 14/7/09, chiranjiv mehta vchiranjiv@ wrote:> > >> > > chiranjiv mehta vchiranjiv@> > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 7:02 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>

> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Bhagvathji,> > >> > > Many influences on 5th house and 4th. Total 6 .> > > Maths, Arts, teaching etc.> > > Do you have brothers ? Do you support them in any way ?> > >> > > Chiranjiv Mehta> > >> > >> > > --- On Tue, 14/7/09, bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ harihara> > n wrote:> > >> > >> > > bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ harihara n> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H> > > To:

ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 5:56 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Chiranjeeviji,> > >> > > lagna- gemini> > > 3rd house-mars/ketu> > > 4th house-mer/sun> > > 5th house-jup-venus> > > 7th house-moon> > > 9th house-rahu> > > 11th house- saturn> > >> > > Regards,> > > bhagavathi> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjivmehta> > <vchiranjiv@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Bhagvathiji,> > > >> > > > Rahu in 9 th house is giving you education.. Good andinteresting.> > > > Saturn also aspecting sign of exalation. You said Saturn inAries

in> > 11 th hse.> > > > Rahu is also giver of knowledge - something which we overlook> > always.> > > > Jupiter in 5th ? and where is Mars ?> > > >> > > > Thanks & Regards> > > >> > > > Chiranjiv Mehta> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 14/7/09, bhagavathi_harihara n> > > <bhagavathi_ hariharan@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ hariharan@ ...>> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 1:24 AM> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >

>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear discussing members,> > > > I am not very active these days. However, ths post caught my> > attention-> > > > // 9th house for rahu is its MKS (maran karak sthan) ,unles ifthe> > cancellation of this MKS awastha isnt happening,Rahu will deliveryvery> > inauspicious results//> > > > could you tell me how the cancellation of this avastha occurs. Iam> > not familiar with this and I have> > > not heard of this before.> > > > // He wont stay with his family and if he stays there wont toomuch> > harmony between him and family members..... . It wiil make nativevery> > deceptive,one who will always speak lies and also a sort oftraitor..//> > > > I have rahu in 9th in kumbha, running this

dasha, currently inthe> > fag end. As far as I know, I am not known to be deceptive, traitoror a> > liar.. I am not saying I am a satyavadi, I have told liesocasionally> > for fun, those are white lies. It is true I live away from home and> > family, but my weekly phone bills are too high- so I have ties with> > everyone> > > >> > > > // Respected Sreenadhji,> > > > > Pranam. Very valuable knowledge you gave us. I am learning> > "Vedic Jyotish". Sir, give detail knowledge about rahu situtated in9th> > bhav. It is Dharma bhav. Rahu will give adverse effect on education,> > dharma, father. //> > > > It> > > has not affected my dharma at all. Regarding education, have many> > academic degrees and diplomas, still going steady in education, planto> > get atleast

two more degrees. Father died in peace. Could have beennice> > if he lived more. But that is destiny, all born have to die. Howlong> > can a person live?> > > > bhagavathi> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Looking for local information? Find it on Local> > http://in.local. /> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > > See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by

people like you. Checkout> > Buzz.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet> > Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> > >>

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Mouji Sahab ji,

You are right when you say"Parashari + Jaimini principles, used in an integrated approach, has classical sanction?" I feel that the present BPHS compilation of the systems of astrology prevalent at that time. It is my personal experience that When we use Parashari and Jaimini use interestedly our prediction is more near perfection. It is what ICAS is teaching in Visharad paper VI.

Regards--- On Sat, 7/18/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:

Manoj Chandran <chandran_manojRe: Re:Rahu_ 11H Date: Saturday, July 18, 2009, 4:57 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Manoj (Mouji) Ji,

 

Here is the problem. It is very difficult to objectively validate the efficacy of one particular theory, especially if it is used in an integrated approach (Parashari + Jaimini). If the practising astrologers are also intelligent and strong in the Parashari principles, they will get the predictions correct any way. So that does not prove that their Jamini principles are accurate, does it? This is why I dont see how these things can be categorically proven, one way or the other. I think it is up to each of us to evaluate each system and adopt whichever passes our practical tests.

 

I also feel (my humble pesonal opinion) that those that argue that these two principles should not be mixed together may have a valid point. Jyotish was always an orally transmitted system. If this system was truly an integrated approach, why aren't there more oral traditions with such integrated approach? Why aren't there more classics supporting this integrated approach? Was Parashara really the author of the BPHS as it is currently published, or is the current version a compilation effort from various sources and when that effort was done, different systems were mixed together?

So when some one says, "Parashara says this so it must be true (regarding the integrated system)", then what they are really saying is "The author of BPHS says this, so it must be true". Is the author of BPHS really Parashara?

 

Ofcourse I am neither a sanskrit scholar nor an accomplished astrologer but that does not prevent me from having a probing mind and ask these questions. However, if some one says " Look, I dont care if Parashara really authored this or not, I tried these two different techniques together, I experimented with it, it works, I like it, so leave me alone", then I am fine with that too.. Experimentation is good as long as we declare it is an experiment and it is a novel approach, but not really an "ancient approach".

 

So after a really circular route, I think the pivotal question becomes, is BPHS as it stands today, really "Ancient Indian Astrology"? Is it fair to use that as an argument to state that Parashari + Jaimini principles, used in an integrated approach, has classical sanction?

 

May be Sreenadh Ji and others throw some light on this?

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

Manoj Kumar <mouji99 Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 1:15:02 AMRe: Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

 

He is free to adopt whatever he feels like and teach also whatever they feel like.

 

As they say, Proof of the Pudding is in eating.

 

regards,

 

Mouji

 

 

 

Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >ancient_indian_ astrologyFriday, July 17, 2009 10:44:19 AMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

 

 

Dear Mouji Ji,

 

Yes. But PVR ji is the Jyotish guru at SJC and does not follow the 7 karaka scheme but follows the 8 karaka scheme. If you ask me honestly these two sides may never come together. Those loyal to Shri KN Rao Ji will follow 7 karaka scheme. Those loyal to Shri Sanjay Rath Ji will follow 8 karaka scheme.

 

Two lines of Mark Twain are often quoted :

"Oh, East is East, and West is West, and never the two shall meet,"

 

However, two more lines are never quoted:

 

 

 

 

But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,

95

 

When two strong men stand face to face, tho’ they come from the ends of the earth.

"But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,

When two strong men stand face to face, tho’ they come from the ends of the earth".

 

 

 

 

But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,

95

 

When two strong men stand face to face, tho’ they come from the ends of the earth Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

Manoj Kumar <mouji99 >ancient_indian_ astrologyThursday, July 16, 2009 9:48:25 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

 

According to seven karaka scheme, Rahu becomes no karaka ever.

 

regards,

 

Mouji

 

 

 

Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >ancient_indian_ astrologyWednesday, July 15, 2009 5:32:34 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

 

 

 

Dear Mouji Ji,

 

I followed that link as well and seems like PVR Ji's comments indicate that Rahu can be AK. Even if it does become AK, according to Shri Sanjay Rath Ji's teachings one has to subtract the Rahu's degrees from 30 to determine his AK status. So you can see that if you dont do this then even if you do consider Rahu, you might get a different answer.

 

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

Manoj Kumar <mouji99 >ancient_indian_ astrologyTuesday, July 14, 2009 9:52:26 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

 

 

Does Rahu become Atmakaraka?

 

regards,

 

Manoj (Mouji)

 

 

 

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>ancient_indian_ astrologyWednesday, July 15, 2009 9:33:38 AM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

Dear Bohra ji,Nic to see you back here. I was feeling the pain of guilt in yourabsence. I read your link. It is good and asnwers my doubts very well.As regards to interpretation of Sanskrit shlokas nobody can do it betterthan Shri PVR Narsimharao ji. I believe his interpretations as right .regards/Bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, "msbohra62"<msbohra62@. ..> wrote:>>> Dear Bhashkar ji and Deepen ji,>> Please see the link if it help any for yours quarries :->> http://groups. / group/sohamsa/ message/18760>>

Thanks,>> M.S.Bohra>>> ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> >> > Are we sure that the Nodes can be considered as the "Atmakaraka" ?(I do> > not know, hence asking). In any case Rahu in the 9th if the 9th is a> > badhaksthana will not produce good results, the way it is expectedto.> >> > I am talking without reference to any example .> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, deepen thakkar> > <justcoolout@ > wrote:> > >> > > Rahu in 9th can give excellent results if Rahu is the Atma karak..> > > Than the Rahu results will be akin to the results of sun in 9th> > house...> > > Bhagwathiji can you please tell is rahu the Atmakarak?> > > --- On Tue, 14/7/09, chiranjiv mehta vchiranjiv@ wrote:> > >> > > chiranjiv mehta vchiranjiv@> > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009,

7:02 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Bhagvathji,> > >> > > Many influences on 5th house and 4th. Total 6 .> > > Maths, Arts, teaching etc.> > > Do you have brothers ? Do you support them in any way ?> > >> > > Chiranjiv Mehta> > >> > >> > > --- On Tue, 14/7/09, bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ harihara> > n wrote:> > >> > >> > > bhagavathi_harihara

n <bhagavathi_ harihara n> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 5:56 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Chiranjeeviji,> > >> > > lagna- gemini> > > 3rd house-mars/ketu> > > 4th house-mer/sun> > > 5th house-jup-venus> > > 7th house-moon> > > 9th house-rahu> > > 11th house- saturn> > >> > > Regards,> > > bhagavathi> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjivmehta> > <vchiranjiv@ ...> wrote:>

> > >> > > > Dear Bhagvathiji,> > > >> > > > Rahu in 9 th house is giving you education.. Good andinteresting.> > > > Saturn also aspecting sign of exalation. You said Saturn inAries in> > 11 th hse.> > > > Rahu is also giver of knowledge - something which we overlook> > always.> > > > Jupiter in 5th ? and where is Mars ?> > > >> > > > Thanks & Regards> > > >> > > > Chiranjiv Mehta> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 14/7/09, bhagavathi_harihara n> > > <bhagavathi_ hariharan@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ hariharan@ ...>> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_

11H> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 1:24 AM> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear discussing members,> > > > I am not very active these days. However, ths post caught my> > attention-> > > > // 9th house for rahu is its MKS (maran karak sthan) ,unles ifthe> > cancellation of this MKS awastha isnt happening,Rahu will deliveryvery> > inauspicious results//> > > > could you tell me how the cancellation of this avastha occurs. Iam> > not familiar with this and I have> > > not heard of this before.> > > > // He wont stay with his family and if he

stays there wont toomuch> > harmony between him and family members..... . It wiil make nativevery> > deceptive,one who will always speak lies and also a sort oftraitor..//> > > > I have rahu in 9th in kumbha, running this dasha, currently inthe> > fag end. As far as I know, I am not known to be deceptive, traitoror a> > liar.. I am not saying I am a satyavadi, I have told liesocasionally> > for fun, those are white lies. It is true I live away from home and> > family, but my weekly phone bills are too high- so I have ties with> > everyone> > > >> > > > // Respected Sreenadhji,> > > > > Pranam. Very valuable knowledge you gave us. I am learning> > "Vedic Jyotish". Sir, give detail knowledge about rahu situtated in9th> > bhav. It is Dharma bhav. Rahu will give adverse

effect on education,> > dharma, father. //> > > > It> > > has not affected my dharma at all. Regarding education, have many> > academic degrees and diplomas, still going steady in education, planto> > get atleast two more degrees. Father died in peace. Could have beennice> > if he lived more. But that is destiny, all born have to die. Howlong> > can a person live?> > > > bhagavathi> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Looking for

local information? Find it on Local> > http://in.local. /> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > > See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Checkout> > Buzz.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet> > Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> > >> >>

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Dear Kursija Ji,

 

Those comments were from my and not Mouji Ji. .

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

S.C. Kursija <sckursija Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:29:04 PMRe: Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

 

 

 

 

Mouji Sahab ji,

You are right when you say"Parashari + Jaimini principles, used in an integrated approach, has classical sanction?" I feel that the present BPHS compilation of the systems of astrology prevalent at that time. It is my personal experience that When we use Parashari and Jaimini use interestedly our prediction is more near perfection. It is what ICAS is teaching in Visharad paper VI.

Regards--- On Sat, 7/18/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:

Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11Hancient_indian_ astrologySaturday, July 18, 2009, 4:57 AM

 

 

 

Dear Manoj (Mouji) Ji,

 

Here is the problem. It is very difficult to objectively validate the efficacy of one particular theory, especially if it is used in an integrated approach (Parashari + Jaimini). If the practising astrologers are also intelligent and strong in the Parashari principles, they will get the predictions correct any way. So that does not prove that their Jamini principles are accurate, does it? This is why I dont see how these things can be categorically proven, one way or the other. I think it is up to each of us to evaluate each system and adopt whichever passes our practical tests.

 

I also feel (my humble pesonal opinion) that those that argue that these two principles should not be mixed together may have a valid point. Jyotish was always an orally transmitted system. If this system was truly an integrated approach, why aren't there more oral traditions with such integrated approach? Why aren't there more classics supporting this integrated approach? Was Parashara really the author of the BPHS as it is currently published, or is the current version a compilation effort from various sources and when that effort was done, different systems were mixed together?

So when some one says, "Parashara says this so it must be true (regarding the integrated system)", then what they are really saying is "The author of BPHS says this, so it must be true". Is the author of BPHS really Parashara?

 

Ofcourse I am neither a sanskrit scholar nor an accomplished astrologer but that does not prevent me from having a probing mind and ask these questions. However, if some one says " Look, I dont care if Parashara really authored this or not, I tried these two different techniques together, I experimented with it, it works, I like it, so leave me alone", then I am fine with that too.. Experimentation is good as long as we declare it is an experiment and it is a novel approach, but not really an "ancient approach".

 

So after a really circular route, I think the pivotal question becomes, is BPHS as it stands today, really "Ancient Indian Astrology"? Is it fair to use that as an argument to state that Parashari + Jaimini principles, used in an integrated approach, has classical sanction?

 

May be Sreenadh Ji and others throw some light on this?

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

Manoj Kumar <mouji99 >ancient_indian_ astrologyFriday, July 17, 2009 1:15:02 AMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

 

He is free to adopt whatever he feels like and teach also whatever they feel like.

 

As they say, Proof of the Pudding is in eating.

 

regards,

 

Mouji

 

 

 

Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >ancient_indian_ astrologyFriday, July 17, 2009 10:44:19 AMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

 

 

Dear Mouji Ji,

 

Yes. But PVR ji is the Jyotish guru at SJC and does not follow the 7 karaka scheme but follows the 8 karaka scheme. If you ask me honestly these two sides may never come together. Those loyal to Shri KN Rao Ji will follow 7 karaka scheme. Those loyal to Shri Sanjay Rath Ji will follow 8 karaka scheme.

 

Two lines of Mark Twain are often quoted :

"Oh, East is East, and West is West, and never the two shall meet,"

 

However, two more lines are never quoted:

 

 

 

 

But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,

95

 

When two strong men stand face to face, tho’ they come from the ends of the earth.

"But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,

When two strong men stand face to face, tho’ they come from the ends of the earth".

 

 

 

 

But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,

95

 

When two strong men stand face to face, tho’ they come from the ends of the earth Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

Manoj Kumar <mouji99 >ancient_indian_ astrologyThursday, July 16, 2009 9:48:25 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

 

According to seven karaka scheme, Rahu becomes no karaka ever.

 

regards,

 

Mouji

 

 

 

Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >ancient_indian_ astrologyWednesday, July 15, 2009 5:32:34 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

 

 

 

Dear Mouji Ji,

 

I followed that link as well and seems like PVR Ji's comments indicate that Rahu can be AK. Even if it does become AK, according to Shri Sanjay Rath Ji's teachings one has to subtract the Rahu's degrees from 30 to determine his AK status. So you can see that if you dont do this then even if you do consider Rahu, you might get a different answer.

 

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

Manoj Kumar <mouji99 >ancient_indian_ astrologyTuesday, July 14, 2009 9:52:26 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

 

 

Does Rahu become Atmakaraka?

 

regards,

 

Manoj (Mouji)

 

 

 

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>ancient_indian_ astrologyWednesday, July 15, 2009 9:33:38 AM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H

 

Dear Bohra ji,Nic to see you back here. I was feeling the pain of guilt in yourabsence. I read your link. It is good and asnwers my doubts very well.As regards to interpretation of Sanskrit shlokas nobody can do it betterthan Shri PVR Narsimharao ji. I believe his interpretations as right .regards/Bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, "msbohra62"<msbohra62@. ..> wrote:>>> Dear Bhashkar ji and Deepen ji,>> Please see the link if it help any for yours quarries :->> http://groups. / group/sohamsa/ message/18760>> Thanks,>> M.S.Bohra>>> ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> >> > Are we sure that the Nodes can be considered as the "Atmakaraka" ?(I do> > not know, hence asking). In any case Rahu in the 9th if the 9th is a> > badhaksthana will not produce good results, the way it is expectedto.> >> > I am talking without reference to any example .> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, deepen thakkar> > <justcoolout@ > wrote:> > >> > > Rahu in 9th can

give excellent results if Rahu is the Atma karak..> > > Than the Rahu results will be akin to the results of sun in 9th> > house...> > > Bhagwathiji can you please tell is rahu the Atmakarak?> > > --- On Tue, 14/7/09, chiranjiv mehta vchiranjiv@ wrote:> > >> > > chiranjiv mehta vchiranjiv@> > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 7:02 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >

>> > >> > >> > > Bhagvathji,> > >> > > Many influences on 5th house and 4th. Total 6 .> > > Maths, Arts, teaching etc.> > > Do you have brothers ? Do you support them in any way ?> > >> > > Chiranjiv Mehta> > >> > >> > > --- On Tue, 14/7/09, bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ harihara> > n wrote:> > >> > >> > > bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ harihara n> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Date:

Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 5:56 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Chiranjeeviji,> > >> > > lagna- gemini> > > 3rd house-mars/ketu> > > 4th house-mer/sun> > > 5th house-jup-venus> > > 7th house-moon> > > 9th house-rahu> > > 11th house- saturn> > >> > > Regards,> > > bhagavathi> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjivmehta> > <vchiranjiv@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Bhagvathiji,> > > >> > > > Rahu in 9 th house is giving you education.. Good andinteresting.> > > > Saturn also aspecting sign of exalation. You said Saturn inAries in> > 11 th hse.> > > > Rahu is also giver

of knowledge - something which we overlook> > always.> > > > Jupiter in 5th ? and where is Mars ?> > > >> > > > Thanks & Regards> > > >> > > > Chiranjiv Mehta> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 14/7/09, bhagavathi_harihara n> > > <bhagavathi_ hariharan@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ hariharan@ ...>> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rahu_ 11H> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 1:24 AM> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >

>> > > > Dear discussing members,> > > > I am not very active these days. However, ths post caught my> > attention-> > > > // 9th house for rahu is its MKS (maran karak sthan) ,unles ifthe> > cancellation of this MKS awastha isnt happening,Rahu will deliveryvery> > inauspicious results//> > > > could you tell me how the cancellation of this avastha occurs. Iam> > not familiar with this and I have> > > not heard of this before.> > > > // He wont stay with his family and if he stays there wont toomuch> > harmony between him and family members..... . It wiil make nativevery> > deceptive,one who will always speak lies and also a sort oftraitor..//> > > > I have rahu in 9th in kumbha, running this dasha, currently inthe> > fag end. As far as I know, I

am not known to be deceptive, traitoror a> > liar.. I am not saying I am a satyavadi, I have told liesocasionally> > for fun, those are white lies. It is true I live away from home and> > family, but my weekly phone bills are too high- so I have ties with> > everyone> > > >> > > > // Respected Sreenadhji,> > > > > Pranam. Very valuable knowledge you gave us. I am learning> > "Vedic Jyotish". Sir, give detail knowledge about rahu situtated in9th> > bhav. It is Dharma bhav. Rahu will give adverse effect on education,> > dharma, father. //> > > > It> > > has not affected my dharma at all. Regarding education, have many> > academic degrees and diplomas, still going steady in education, planto> > get atleast two more degrees. Father died in peace. Could have

beennice> > if he lived more. But that is destiny, all born have to die. Howlong> > can a person live?> > > > bhagavathi> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Looking for local information? Find it on Local> > http://in.local. /> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > > See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Checkout> >

Buzz.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet> > Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> > >> >>

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