Guru-Rahu Rendezvous

[Guest guest]

Dear Juliana and group,

Thank you Juliana for the beautiful,

well-researched post. It raises many points for us to ponder over.

In 1747, Jupiter Rahu conjunction had a

close brush of 3-4 days only with mars in Capricorn. While Rahu and Jupiter entered

Capricorn from opposite sides, mars was preparing to leave. Still as you've said, it was a landmark year

as it gave rise to a new world order when Nadir Shah was assassinated and Afghanistan liberated itself from the Mughal empire. With its very strategic

location that indeed paved a way to a lot of happenings in the period that followed. It had a major impact on India as prior to 1747, neither Afghanistan, nor Pakistan existed and all was part of Mughal Empire.

1747 also the year when British rule established in India

after 'real invasion drama' through sea route in Cuddapore, the Bristish

were able to loosen the strong hold of French in Podicherry and later in the

year, the whole of company forces arrived in India to take charge, and we

witnessed their (as a result our) transformation… from a Trading company to a

Ruling company. By now everyone knew how to conquer India.

With the weak native forces and more disciplined invaders, India became

an easy catch with their divide and rule policy.

It was again the conjunction of

Rahu-Jup-mars in 1857, but this time in pisces, which came to the rescue of the

nation and started the 'Sepoy Mutiny' to bring a new order. However, now in 2009, with the long-stay-triple-whammy

in Capricorn, sandwiched between the 2008-09 eclipses, with Saturn in 8H from

it, does have story to tell. The solar eclipse of 26th January 2009

will be at mid 12-13 degrees of Capricorn. Thus highlighting the rashi, and conjunction

even more. A laser beam pointer wants us to read the writing on the wall. A new world order is sure in sight and we already

have the first ever 'Black' Obama assume the office of the US President

on January 20,

2009. What about India? We

are still as vulnerable, as we were. We have not learnt our lessons. The

separatist forces still find us an easy prey. How do we see this conjunction

for India now?

India is running Venus MD, who is the lord of

disputes in 3H, which more or less signifies hidden enemies of neighbourly

types. Ketu antar signifies outcast and placed in the seventh house of war and

foreign affairs is not good and has proved so also.

Coming to the transits, Rahu and mars will have the decision-making power as ketu the antar lord is in scorpio, martian sign and aspects Rahu in lagna. Mars is exalted and digbali in Capricorn and as 7L and 12L in 9H, it can start a process whereby we have a soft invasion with a spate of foreign policies and treaties to fight our internal communal weaknesses and terrorism. We have forgotten to solve our problems ourselves. It is ironical that we see a foreign hand in creating problems for us and we seek foreign hand in solving our problems!! With a weak Jupiter (karak for national wisdom) in 9H, it is bound to get overpowered by the mighty 7/12 forces and India with its weak governance (12H from 10th) will get overpowered by foreign forces which will have long term implications in changing the state of the nation.

Since we are in a dasa

chhidr and waiting for a new dawn with Sun's dasha, I am hopeful with this background of new

order, it would be good for the masses and we might see an emergence of a leader within opposition forces, who can become the 'KING OF MASSES' (4H and sun).

Thank you again

Juliana. I am also eager to hear what others have to say. I hope someone can give us the dates

whenever this triple conjunction has happened in the past history. It could

lead to more insights into its effects.RegardsNeelam

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thanks Neelam!

 

This is very good information from which many of us can learn. I will

certainly study it further.

 

Intuitively, with the upcoming stellium focus on the 10th rashi, I

tend to gravitate to the themes indicated by Capricorn...which are

well expressed by the esoteric teacher Alice Bailey:

 

" Capricorn is the most spiritual and most material of the

zodiac...hence the ability of Capricorn to manifest spirit onto the

physical plane, via the seventh ray in particular,that `materialising

ray'. The seventh ray also brings about the precipitation of karma,

the domain of Saturn...Capricorn is one of the most mysterious signs,

and its true symbol [i believe here she means the Divine Angelic

Messenger Unicorn] has not been given out because of the downflow of

undesirable energies that it may precipitate for the

unready...Capricorn is the sign of magic, a precipitator and

initiator of arupa (formless) into form (rupa). "

 

The " magic " related to the Capricorn/Shravana stellium may be that

humanity will listen more deeply within to learn a more dharmic

material path.

 

Om shanti,

Juliana

 

, " neelam gupta "

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear Juliana and group,

>

> Thank you Juliana for the beautiful, well-researched post. It

raises many

> points for us to ponder over.

>

> In 1747, Jupiter Rahu conjunction had a close brush of 3-4 days

only with

> mars in Capricorn. While Rahu and Jupiter entered Capricorn from

opposite

> sides, mars was preparing to leave. Still as you've said, it was a

landmark

> year as it gave rise to a new world order when Nadir Shah was

assassinated

> and Afghanistan liberated itself from the Mughal empire. With its

very

> strategic location that indeed paved a way to a lot of happenings

in the

> period that followed. It had a major impact on India as prior to

1747,

> neither Afghanistan, nor Pakistan existed and all was part of

Mughal Empire.

>

>

> 1747 also the year when British rule established in India

after 'real

> invasion drama' through sea route in Cuddapore, the Bristish were

able to

> loosen the strong hold of French in Podicherry and later in the

year, the

> whole of company forces arrived in India to take charge, and we

witnessed

> their (as a result our) transformation… from a Trading company to a

Ruling

> company. By now everyone knew how to conquer India. With the weak

native

> forces and more disciplined invaders, India became an easy catch

with their

> divide and rule policy.

>

> It was again the conjunction of Rahu-Jup-mars in 1857, but this

time in

> pisces, which came to the rescue of the nation and started

the 'Sepoy

> Mutiny' to bring a new order.

> *However, now in 2009, with the long-stay-triple-whammy in

Capricorn,

> sandwiched between the 2008-09 eclipses, with Saturn in 8H from it,

does

> have story to tell. **The solar eclipse of 26th January 2009** will

be at

> mid 12-13 degrees of Capricorn. Thus highlighting the rashi, and

conjunction

> even more. A laser beam pointer wants us to read the writing on the

wall. *

>

> A new world order is sure in sight and we already have the first

ever

> 'Black' Obama assume the office of the US President on January 20,

> 2009.What about

> India? We are still as vulnerable, as we were. We have not learnt

our

> lessons. The separatist forces still find us an easy prey. How do

we see

> this conjunction for India now?

>

> India is running Venus MD, who is the lord of disputes in 3H, which

more or

> less signifies hidden enemies of neighbourly types. Ketu antar

signifies

> outcast and placed in the seventh house of war and foreign affairs

is not

> good and has proved so also.

> Coming to the transits, *Rahu and mars will have the decision-

making power

> as ketu the antar lord is in scorpio, martian sign and aspects Rahu

in

> lagna.* Mars is exalted and digbali in Capricorn and as 7L and 12L

in 9H, it

> can start a process whereby we have a soft invasion with a spate of

foreign

> policies and treaties to fight our internal communal weaknesses and

> terrorism. We have forgotten to solve our problems ourselves. It is

ironical

> that we see a foreign hand in creating problems for us and we seek

foreign

> hand in solving our problems!! With a weak Jupiter (karak for

national

> wisdom) in 9H, it is bound to get overpowered by the mighty 7/12

forces and

> India with its weak governance (12H from 10th) will get overpowered

by

> foreign forces which will have long term implications in changing

the state

> of the nation.

>

> Since we are in a dasa chhidr and waiting for a new dawn with Sun's

dasha, *I

> am hopeful with this background of new order, it would be good for

the

> masses and we might see an emergence of a leader within opposition

forces,

> who can become the 'KING OF MASSES' (4H and sun).*

>

> Thank you again Juliana. I am also eager to hear what others have

to say. I

> hope someone can give us the dates whenever this triple conjunction

has

> happened in the past history. It could lead to more insights into

its

> effects.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Members,

 

With the current discussion about the Guru and Rahu combination. I was

hopping to share with you some of my experiences. I myself am born

with the Guru Chandal yoga but at the same time i am also born with

Hamsa yoga.

 

With god's grace i have not had any major effect of Guru Chandal yoga

in my life but when i was a small kid and i remember having very bad

habit of stealing stuffs. Especially in school when the other kids

left for recess and things like that. Thank god this habit only lasted

a few years.

 

As i grew older the spiritual desires in me which i also had from day

one started to grow and develop while the negative effects slow done.

 

But i can say that for some reason my life is practically being ruled

over by Jupiter. Just my looking at Jupiter's position alone i can

figure out how my life is going to be for the rest of the year.

 

A few days after i turned 20,I found a sign of a big fish and the sign

of Pisces of my right palm. It still amazes me how i fail to notice

this signs in my first 20 years of my life.

 

With regards

Hari

 

My birth Details are as fellowed

 

8 Dec 1987

7:49 pm

SIngapore

[Guest guest]

hare ramakrishna

dear hari ji

i think this may b reasons

 

1) jup is vakra and rahu already away frm jup

2) u born with jupitr dasa as birth dasa so rahu dasa passed in past birth itself

3) ur 2nd house and 9th House is unafflicted which is another catalyst to aggravate this problem

4) jup-rahu combo is not further afflicted

5) 3 natural benefic s in kendra

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah

ps- i dont know much abt matya rekha u r talking abt .

, "harinomore" <harinomore wrote:>> Dear Members,> > With the current discussion about the Guru and Rahu combination. I was> hopping to share with you some of my experiences. I myself am born> with the Guru Chandal yoga but at the same time i am also born with> Hamsa yoga.> > With god's grace i have not had any major effect of Guru Chandal yoga> in my life but when i was a small kid and i remember having very bad> habit of stealing stuffs. Especially in school when the other kids> left for recess and things like that. Thank god this habit only lasted> a few years.> > As i grew older the spiritual desires in me which i also had from day> one started to grow and develop while the negative effects slow done.> > But i can say that for some reason my life is practically being ruled> over by Jupiter. Just my looking at Jupiter's position alone i can> figure out how my life is going to be for the rest of the year.> > A few days after i turned 20,I found a sign of a big fish and the sign> of Pisces of my right palm. It still amazes me how i fail to notice> this signs in my first 20 years of my life.> > With regards> Hari> > My birth Details are as fellowed> > 8 Dec 1987> 7:49 pm> SIngapore>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sunil,

 

Thank you for your email and your explanations. Some other reasons i

know of is that the Jup-Rahu combo is in the 10th house in my chart.

 

The 10th house is said to be a growing house and as such Jupiter must

have gain strength as i grew up thus lowering the effects of Guru

chandala yoga.

 

As for the signs on my hand, i have heard from a palmistry reader that

everyone born with the 5 Mahapurusha yogas should have such signs

either on their hands or feet.

 

It could have been there since i was born or it could have developed

over time as the strength of Jupiter grew. Thus a reason why i fail to

see it in my first 20 years of life.

 

With best regards,

Hari

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " sunil nair "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

>

> hare ramakrishna

>

> dear hari ji

>

> i think this may b reasons

>

>

>

> 1) jup is vakra and rahu already away frm jup

>

> 2) u born with jupitr dasa as birth dasa so rahu dasa passed in past

> birth itself

>

> 3) ur 2nd house and 9th House is unafflicted which is another catalyst

> to aggravate this problem

>

> 4) jup-rahu combo is not further afflicted

>

> 5) 3 natural benefic s in kendra

>

> regrds sunil nair

>

> om shreem mahalaxmai namah

>

> ps- i dont know much abt matya rekha u r talking abt .

>

>

> , " harinomore "

> <harinomore@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Members,

> >

> > With the current discussion about the Guru and Rahu combination. I was

> > hopping to share with you some of my experiences. I myself am born

> > with the Guru Chandal yoga but at the same time i am also born with

> > Hamsa yoga.

> >

> > With god's grace i have not had any major effect of Guru Chandal yoga

> > in my life but when i was a small kid and i remember having very bad

> > habit of stealing stuffs. Especially in school when the other kids

> > left for recess and things like that. Thank god this habit only lasted

> > a few years.

> >

> > As i grew older the spiritual desires in me which i also had from day

> > one started to grow and develop while the negative effects slow done.

> >

> > But i can say that for some reason my life is practically being ruled

> > over by Jupiter. Just my looking at Jupiter's position alone i can

> > figure out how my life is going to be for the rest of the year.

> >

> > A few days after i turned 20,I found a sign of a big fish and the sign

> > of Pisces of my right palm. It still amazes me how i fail to notice

> > this signs in my first 20 years of my life.

> >

> > With regards

> > Hari

> >

> > My birth Details are as fellowed

> >

> > 8 Dec 1987

> > 7:49 pm

> > SIngapore

> >

>

[Guest guest]

dear hari ji

 

Some other reasons i know of is that the Jup-Rahu combo is in the 10th house in my chart.The 10th house is said to be a growing house and as such Jupiter musthave gain strength as i grew up thus lowering the effects of Guruchandala yoga.

Ans -sure ,as upachaya houses is houses of will power too ,so we cn remove this doshas without activating it ,by own efforts ,sure it is also houses of growth ( this is one reason as our exersions here pays then i explained dasa part as dasa is givers of any promises or negetivity in charts )

here the famous vada (arguemnts ) by many i am remembring

is fate is solid ( fixed ) and pre dsigned or can we change it

so here is the answer fate or destiny we can change it within the scope and limatation of once chart and desa kala patra .As for the signs on my hand, i have heard from a palmistry reader thateveryone born with the 5 Mahapurusha yogas should have such signseither on their hands or feet.

ans --sure i also abt read it ,but i dont hav clear cut exprnce on it ,even the height and color etc being described in palmistry books if some one has this pancha mahapurush yogas and this spl marks are its identification .

thanks and regrds

 

sunil nair

, "harinomore" <harinomore wrote:>> Hi Sunil,> > Thank you for your email and your explanations. Some other reasons i> know of is that the Jup-Rahu combo is in the 10th house in my chart.> > The 10th house is said to be a growing house and as such Jupiter must> have gain strength as i grew up thus lowering the effects of Guru> chandala yoga.> > As for the signs on my hand, i have heard from a palmistry reader that> everyone born with the 5 Mahapurusha yogas should have such signs> either on their hands or feet. > > It could have been there since i was born or it could have developed> over time as the strength of Jupiter grew. Thus a reason why i fail to> see it in my first 20 years of life.> > With best regards,> Hari> > > > > > > > > > , "sunil nair"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> > > > hare ramakrishna> > > > dear hari ji> > > > i think this may b reasons> > > > > > > > 1) jup is vakra and rahu already away frm jup> > > > 2) u born with jupitr dasa as birth dasa so rahu dasa passed in past> > birth itself> > > > 3) ur 2nd house and 9th House is unafflicted which is another catalyst> > to aggravate this problem> > > > 4) jup-rahu combo is not further afflicted> > > > 5) 3 natural benefic s in kendra> > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > > ps- i dont know much abt matya rekha u r talking abt .> > > > > > , "harinomore"> > <harinomore@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Members,> > >> > > With the current discussion about the Guru and Rahu combination. I was> > > hopping to share with you some of my experiences. I myself am born> > > with the Guru Chandal yoga but at the same time i am also born with> > > Hamsa yoga.> > >> > > With god's grace i have not had any major effect of Guru Chandal yoga> > > in my life but when i was a small kid and i remember having very bad> > > habit of stealing stuffs. Especially in school when the other kids> > > left for recess and things like that. Thank god this habit only lasted> > > a few years.> > >> > > As i grew older the spiritual desires in me which i also had from day> > > one started to grow and develop while the negative effects slow done.> > >> > > But i can say that for some reason my life is practically being ruled> > > over by Jupiter. Just my looking at Jupiter's position alone i can> > > figure out how my life is going to be for the rest of the year.> > >> > > A few days after i turned 20,I found a sign of a big fish and the sign> > > of Pisces of my right palm. It still amazes me how i fail to notice> > > this signs in my first 20 years of my life.> > >> > > With regards> > > Hari> > >> > > My birth Details are as fellowed> > >> > > 8 Dec 1987> > > 7:49 pm> > > SIngapore> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Hello Neelam Ji,

 

I have a chart here with Guru Rahu present in 12 house with Ma.

 

The significant part is that this girl's 15 month boy died after falling the balcony of their house on 25 Nov 2008 in Delhi.

 

Did Gu Ra yog have a play in the death of the child.

 

Mother: DOB 22 Nov 1979 POB DelhiTOB : 02:08 AM

 

Son (who died)DOB 6 Aug 2007 (06/08/07)POB DelhiTOB : Approx 09:00 AM

Warm Regards

Amit Nakai

 

 

 

neelam gupta

Thursday, December 04, 2008 1:43 PM

Re: Re: Guru-Rahu Rendezvous

 

 

Dear Ram ji and group,Welcome to the group. Good to see you participating with a thought-provoking discussion. Although this exercise is based on non-specifics, but I am sure, there would be indications if we look closely that would help us to zero on the lagna. At least we have 4-5 events of life in hand.One important difference as you mention is the variation in the position of moon.

Rashis 8/9/10/11/12 rise while moon is bharni in aries Rashis 1/2/3/4 rise while moon is in krittika in ariesRashis 5/6/7 rise when moon is in krittika and Taurus.

We could surely work with the process of elimination.

 

Major events that we are banking on are:

Native is a nuclear scientistHe is very richHe has many sons but does not have a cordial relationship with themHe has done two marriagesHe has seen death of his father, wife and many friends.

Understandably, karaks Jup, venus and sun for children, wife and father respectively, are afflicted. Jupiter retrograde in R/K axis and aspected by saturn, ven in R/K and sun disposited and aspected by Saturn. Whatever be the lagna, karaks are afflicted. Now we can look for additional affliction for houses and houselords..

Let us try and see if it is possible to get the right lagna with this information.

RegardsNeelam

[Guest guest]

Dear Amit ji,This is indeed sad but the blame cannot be laid

squarely on the ju-ra-ma conjunction, though together they become potent

killers. It is a combination of natal indications, dasha and transit.

The event happened in

Sun-Ju-su/mo. Sun is the 12L from rashi in 3H with LL retrograde mercury conjoined

with it. Sun disposits Rahu and 4/7L Jupiter. But more dangerous is the placement

of 3L/8L mars in exchange with 12L sun. Mars and Jupiter, and more so mars, are

bitter enemies for the chart and are bound to give evil results in their antars.

In sun's MD, they clearly indicate a loss to lagna. Both lagna and 5L saturn are in sun's nakshatra also. Being in 3H, the loss is sudden.From 5H, Sun is 8L and

12L from 5L saturn. Saturn himself is also 6L in lagna. Jupiter is 3L and 12L from 5H in 8H. Moon, the PD lord is 7L from

5H in 12H. All along we have 3/8/12 connections which gave adverse results. Double

transit has been on 12H leo for a while and R/K axis on 5H.

I think her BT need to

be rectified as this event is seen better with 5H rising in navamsh with R/K

and Jup and sun both in leo in 8H in navamsh with is 12H of rashi.RegardsNeelam

[Guest guest]

Hello Neelam Ji,

 

Thanks for the effort, and reasons.

 

If we see your last point, then it means the timing of birth for the girl needs to be rectified for better results, as she is planning for next Baby & is very concerned for the life of a new child.

 

She is very scared now as well and has a thought that "it would be better to adopt a child, than give birth to one, if there is danger to his life as well"

 

Warm Regards

Amit Nakai

 

 

 

neelam gupta

Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:26 PM

Re:Guru-Rahu Rendezvous

 

 

 

Dear Amit ji,

This is indeed sad but the blame cannot be laid squarely on the ju-ra-ma conjunction, though together they become potent killers. It is a combination of natal indications, dasha and transit.

The event happened in Sun-Ju-su/mo. Sun is the 12L from rashi in 3H with LL retrograde mercury conjoined with it. Sun disposits Rahu and 4/7L Jupiter. But more dangerous is the placement of 3L/8L mars in exchange with 12L sun. Mars and Jupiter, and more so mars, are bitter enemies for the chart and are bound to give evil results in their antars. In sun's MD, they clearly indicate a loss to lagna. Both lagna and 5L saturn are in sun's nakshatra also. Being in 3H, the loss is sudden.From 5H, Sun is 8L and 12L from 5L saturn. Saturn himself is also 6L in lagna. Jupiter is 3L and 12L from 5H in 8H. Moon, the PD lord is 7L from 5H in 12H. All along we have 3/8/12 connections which gave adverse results. Double transit has been on 12H leo for a while and R/K axis on 5H.

I think her BT need to be rectified as this event is seen better with 5H rising in navamsh with R/K and Jup and sun both in leo in 8H in navamsh with is 12H of rashi.

RegardsNeelam

[Guest guest]

Dear All,We believe firmly that planets are the dealing hands to create the chaos in our lives. I witnessed a live drama today which I want to share with the group. How a mature, educated and rich businessman looses his sense of judgement, and what makes him perform a heinous act, only these dealing hands can explain.

There was a meeting today for the opening of a govt tender. This person was declared the winner as he had bid the lowest at 56 lakhs. Obviously, he was happy to get the job, but also sad to note that he had quoted too low as the next bid was at 68 lakhs. After everyone had left, he asked the convening officer if he could see his quotation and under that pretext, overwrote and made his quote 66 lakhs (it was a handwritten figure and he found it easy to change 5 to 6). The officer guessed that he had done some mischief, but this man refused to admit his doing saying that 66 lakh was his original quote. Thanks to mobile services all bidders was summoned back. All were asked to confirm the figure they had noted for the lowest bid. This person was declared guilty and hence blacklisted. The contract was awarded to the next bidder. He tried to justify his act by saying that these are tricks of the trade, only it misfired!!

For those who are interested, the BT is 25 Jan 1951, 2.09 hrs, Delhi.(What made him give me his BT for the asking, I do not know, perhaps wanted a peep into the way his move misfired!)A libra ascendant, with Jup-mars-rahu conjunction in 5H in aquarius, he is running Ra-sa-ju. Is this conjunction making him suffer his previous karmas by causing professional loss with dishonour, loss of reputation and goodwill (8th from 10H).

Members may post their comments.RegardsNeelam

[Guest guest]

Dear Neelamji,

 

I find Libra Ascendant people are money minded most of them do all

deed,bad or good,for money.Most of them surrounded by money,money

comes their way.What are the reason behind it we have to analyse.You

have just seen him once but I can say confirmly he is doing this type

of act whenever he get the opportunity to make money.It is not due to

previous Karma,Libra Ascendant person don't feel hesitation to do

wrong deed for money,as i find in most of cases.

 

As per conjunction of Jup-Mars-Rahu in 5th house play the role.Jup. as

3rd and 6th lord in 5th with two malefic make the person defame by his

deed.In my view Jup. with Rahu and Mars compel or create the situation

to act wrong.He is running PD of Jup. also.

 

We have to analyse the Ascendant Libra in detail.

 

Let other members to comment on this.

 

Thanks,

 

M.S.Bohra

 

, " neelam gupta "

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> We believe firmly that planets are the dealing hands to create the

chaos in

> our lives. I witnessed a live drama today which I want to share with the

> group. How a mature, educated and rich businessman looses his sense of

> judgement, and what makes him perform a heinous act, only these dealing

> hands can explain.

>

> There was a meeting today for the opening of a govt tender. This

person was

> declared the winner as he had bid the lowest at 56 lakhs. Obviously,

he was

> happy to get the job, but also sad to note that he had quoted too

low as the

> next bid was at 68 lakhs. After everyone had left, he asked the

convening

> officer if he could see his quotation and under that pretext,

overwrote and

> made his quote 66 lakhs (it was a handwritten figure and he found it

easy to

> change 5 to 6). The officer guessed that he had done some mischief,

but this

> man refused to admit his doing saying that 66 lakh was his original

quote.

> Thanks to mobile services all bidders was summoned back. All were

asked to

> confirm the figure they had noted for the lowest bid. This person was

> declared guilty and hence blacklisted. The contract was awarded to

the next

> bidder. He tried to justify his act by saying that these are tricks

of the

> trade, only it misfired!!

>

> For those who are interested, the BT is 25 Jan 1951, 2.09 hrs, Delhi.

> (What made him give me his BT for the asking, I do not know, perhaps

wanted

> a peep into the way his move misfired!)

>

> A libra ascendant, with Jup-mars-rahu conjunction in 5H in aquarius,

he is

> running Ra-sa-ju. Is this conjunction making him suffer his previous

karmas

> by causing professional loss with dishonour, loss of reputation and

goodwill

> (8th from 10H).

>

> Members may post their comments.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

[Guest guest]

Dear M S Bhoraji/Neelamji,

Interesting observation about Libra (Tula) Ascendent.

 

For Libra Ascendent under Shukras lordship, Scorpio is the House of Wealth which is ruled by Mars. The 2nd House is opposed by Taurus in 8th House which is ruled by Venus. Now Venus and Mars are opposing planets, would this have a bearing on the ways & methods of earning money??

 

Regards,

Mandar B--- On Thu, 12/18/08, msbohra62 <msbohra62 wrote:

msbohra62 <msbohra62 Re: Guru-Rahu Rendezvous Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 9:23 AM

 

 

Dear Neelamji,I find Libra Ascendant people are money minded most of them do alldeed,bad or good,for money.Most of them surrounded by money,moneycomes their way.What are the reason behind it we have to analyse.Youhave just seen him once but I can say confirmly he is doing this typeof act whenever he get the opportunity to make money.It is not due toprevious Karma,Libra Ascendant person don't feel hesitation to dowrong deed for money,as i find in most of cases.As per conjunction of Jup-Mars-Rahu in 5th house play the role.Jup. as3rd and 6th lord in 5th with two malefic make the person defame by hisdeed.In my view Jup. with Rahu and Mars compel or create the situationto act wrong.He is running PD of Jup. also. We have to analyse the Ascendant Libra in detail.Let other members to comment on this.Thanks,M.S.Bohraancient_indian_ astrology, "neelam gupta"<neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:>> Dear All,> > We believe firmly that planets are the dealing hands to create thechaos in> our lives. I witnessed a live drama today which I want to share with the> group. How a mature, educated and rich businessman looses his sense of> judgement, and what makes him perform a heinous act, only these dealing> hands can explain.> > There was a meeting today for the opening of a govt tender. Thisperson was> declared the winner as he had bid the lowest at 56 lakhs. Obviously,he was> happy to get the job, but also sad to note that he had quoted toolow as the> next bid was at 68 lakhs. After everyone had left, he asked theconvening> officer if he could see his

quotation and under that pretext,overwrote and> made his quote 66 lakhs (it was a handwritten figure and he found iteasy to> change 5 to 6). The officer guessed that he had done some mischief,but this> man refused to admit his doing saying that 66 lakh was his originalquote.> Thanks to mobile services all bidders was summoned back. All wereasked to> confirm the figure they had noted for the lowest bid. This person was> declared guilty and hence blacklisted. The contract was awarded tothe next> bidder. He tried to justify his act by saying that these are tricksof the> trade, only it misfired!!> > For those who are interested, the BT is 25 Jan 1951, 2.09 hrs, Delhi.> (What made him give me his BT for the asking, I do not know, perhapswanted> a peep into the way his move misfired!)> > A libra ascendant, with Jup-mars-rahu

conjunction in 5H in aquarius,he is> running Ra-sa-ju. Is this conjunction making him suffer his previouskarmas> by causing professional loss with dishonour, loss of reputation andgoodwill> (8th from 10H).> > Members may post their comments.> > Regards> Neelam>

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Dear Bohra ji, Mander ji and all,I have never delved into this aspect of librans as a manifestation of ascending sign only. Though it would be interesting to study their compulsions to have this trait.

Mander ji,//The 2nd House is opposed by Taurus in 8th House which is ruled

by Venus. Now Venus and Mars are opposing planets, would this have a

bearing on the ways & methods of earning money??//1-7 position always is lorded by opposing planets. I do not think that is reason for money-matters in Libra. If so we would have even worse pairs, e.g aries with scorpio on 8H and taurus.

Let us wait for others to comment on this. RegardsNeelam

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Dear Neelamji,

In Libra Ascendant Venus is Lagana lord with 8th house lord and Mars

lord of 2nd ,7th houses.So please look the relation of Money(Laxshmi)

for Libranian.Mandarji reflecting a ray toward it.

 

Definitely only by Lagan-lord we can't comes to conclusion but Lagan

it self say the everything so we firstly look,what is Lagan and where

is Lagan-lord.All planets we analyse by Lagan,which is beneficiary or

which is not good for particular Lagan.

 

Just recall the Libra people and see this Money matter.

 

Thanks

 

M.S.Bohra

 

 

, " neelam gupta "

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear Bohra ji, Mander ji and all,

>

> I have never delved into this aspect of librans as a manifestation of

> ascending sign only. Though it would be interesting to study their

> compulsions to have this trait.

>

> Mander ji,

> //The 2nd House is opposed by Taurus in 8th House which is ruled by

Venus.

> Now Venus and Mars are opposing planets, would this have a bearing

on the

> ways & methods of earning money??//

>

> 1-7 position always is lorded by opposing planets. I do not think

that is

> reason for money-matters in Libra. If so we would have even worse

pairs, e.g

> aries with scorpio on 8H and taurus.

>

> Let us wait for others to comment on this.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

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Dear Prashant Ji,

 

You had written on Dec 10, 2008,

 

"In some countries some major revolts can take place against the running rulers."

 

If you were referring to Bangladesh, then same has come true.

 

Today, the SriLankan Cricket team were attacked in Pakistan, Karachi

while moving in a bus. Few players were injured. Five policemen died.

Looks like Mars (players + Policemen) were attacked by Ketu (terrorists).

 

A comparable event (of much bigger scale) had happened in Munich Olympic

Sept 1972.

 

If moderators agree, could you please initiate an analysis of that event ?

 

regards

 

Chakraborty

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Dear Chakrobortyji,

 

How do we link Ketu to terrorists ? Can we explain this .

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, " Chakraborty, PL "

<CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:

>

> Dear Prashant Ji,

>

> You had written on Dec 10, 2008,

>

> " In some countries some major revolts can take place against the

> running rulers. "

>

> If you were referring to Bangladesh, then same has come true.

>

> Today, the SriLankan Cricket team were attacked in Pakistan, Karachi

> while moving in a bus. Few players were injured. Five policemen died.

> Looks like Mars (players + Policemen) were attacked by Ketu

(terrorists).

>

> A comparable event (of much bigger scale) had happened in Munich

Olympic

> Sept 1972.

>

> If moderators agree, could you please initiate an analysis of that

event ?

>

> regards

>

> Chakraborty

>

>

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Dear Bhaskar-ji,

 

No, I can not explain it wrto any Classic.

 

This was my personal idea based on some half-baked notions

like

 

-Ketu is a strong malefic

- Ketu is hidden

- Ketu has a Mars-like character.

-Ketu is an outcaste.

-Under cirucmstances, Ketu can strip away anything.

 

All these characters are also common to terrorists.

 

I could not think of any other planets who could, prima facie,

represent terrorists, especially the foot-soldiers of terrorism.

regards

 

Chakraborty

 

 

 

Bhaskar [bhaskar_jyotish]Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:49 PM Subject: Re: Guru-Rahu Rendezvous

 

Dear Chakrobortyji,How do we link Ketu to terrorists ? Can we explain this .regards/Bhaskar. , "Chakraborty, PL"<CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:>> Dear Prashant Ji,>> You had written on Dec 10, 2008,>> "In some countries some major revolts can take place against the> running rulers.">> If you were referring to Bangladesh, then same has come true.>> Today, the SriLankan Cricket team were attacked in Pakistan, Karachi> while moving in a bus. Few players were injured. Five policemen died.> Looks like Mars (players + Policemen) were attacked by Ketu(terrorists).>> A comparable event (of much bigger scale) had happened in MunichOlympic> Sept 1972.>> If moderators agree, could you please initiate an analysis of thatevent ?>> regards>> Chakraborty>><http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=17588172/grpspId=1705082686/\msgI> d=16366/stime=1228933127/nc1=3848644/nc2=5191953/nc3=5579901>>> This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi,India. The information contained in this electronic message and anyattachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of theaddressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privilegedinformation. If you are not the intended recipient, you should notdisseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the senderimmediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments.>This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments.

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Dear Chakrabortyji,

Ketu is emotion without head. Deep emotions are reponsible for the absolute shuting down of the mind and are root cause of massacres & genocides.

Ketu may not be the foot soldier but the mind ( or the lack of it ) or the feelings in which the terrorist is born.

If spiritually inclined ( aspect/combi of jupiter ) then the lack of the mind ( ketu ) is helpfull, but as you said with Mars it is.................. mindless rage.

Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Tue, 3/3/09, Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:

Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2RE: Re: Guru-Rahu Rendezvous Date: Tuesday, 3 March, 2009, 1:18 PM

 

 

 

Dear Bhaskar-ji,

 

No, I can not explain it wrto any Classic.

 

This was my personal idea based on some half-baked notions

like

 

-Ketu is a strong malefic

- Ketu is hidden

- Ketu has a Mars-like character.

-Ketu is an outcaste.

-Under cirucmstances, Ketu can strip away anything.

 

All these characters are also common to terrorists.

 

I could not think of any other planets who could, prima facie,

represent terrorists, especially the foot-soldiers of terrorism.

regards

 

Chakraborty

 

 

 

Bhaskar [bhaskar_ jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in]Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:49 PMancient_indian_ astrology[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Guru-Rahu Rendezvous

 

Dear Chakrobortyji,How do we link Ketu to terrorists ? Can we explain this .regards/Bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, "Chakraborty, PL"<CHAKRABORTYP2@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Prashant Ji,>> You had written on Dec 10, 2008,>> "In some countries some major revolts can take place against the> running rulers.">> If you were referring to Bangladesh, then same has come true.>> Today, the SriLankan Cricket team were attacked in Pakistan, Karachi> while moving in a bus. Few players were injured. Five policemen died.> Looks like Mars (players + Policemen) were attacked by Ketu(terrorists) .>> A comparable event (of much bigger scale) had happened in MunichOlympic> Sept 1972.>> If

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Shri Chakroborty ji,

 

HaHa. You and your notions. Interesting.

 

We will discuss some other day , on actually which Planet must represent

terrorist as the karaka , and also in Pakistans Mundane Chart, what is the role

of Mars and Ketu.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

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Dear Bhaskar-ji,

 

'Looking forward to the discussion at your convenience.

 

regards

 

Chakraborty

 

Bhaskar [bhaskar_jyotish]Tuesday, March 03, 2009 2:26 PM Subject: Re: Guru-Rahu Rendezvous

 

Shri Chakroborty ji,HaHa. You and your notions. Interesting.We will discuss some other day , on actually which Planet must represent terrorist as the karaka , and also in Pakistans Mundane Chart, what is the role of Mars and Ketu.regards/Bhaskar.This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments.