Kaala-chakra Dashaa : Scheme and Sub-periods

March 28, 2010

Dear " Vinay Jha " jee,

You are barking up the wrong tree, just as you tried to do on VA forum!

My public prediction about your role in jyotish stands for the next ten years!

As posted in that forum!

Rohiniranjan

, " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

>

> <<<<<

> I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was one of those rare and

rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck the jyotish forum, if

we were paying attention!

> >>>>>

>

> Unfortunately, instead of discussing the thread, the topic was diverted to

sabre-rattling. I refrained from adding any positive content because no one was

serious.

>

> KCD is among least explored topics of Jyotisha and needs more attention than

we give.

>

> -VJ

> ========================== ===

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> >

> > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was one of those rare

and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck the jyotish forum,

if we were paying attention! ;-)

> >

> > THOR is the Greek name for Jupiter and from time to time he strikes from the

Mount Olympia where He lives and rules from!

> >

> > So when thunder-bolts arrive, pay attention to those and let those emanate

from wherever your jupiter is placed in! That is -- if you are the type that is

overly obsessed with your personal horoscope, as most seem to be! Tut tut!!

> >

> > And accordingly, the other planets (lights, bodies and shadows!) as well

according to their rather clearly laid out mandates in jyotish scriptures!

> >

> > While avoiding the 'fitnaas' that show up in holy garbs! Look what

Christianity and Vatican is going through in this very time of current transits!

> >

> > Obama's medical bill passed! USA is on to a new height of democracy!

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

>

March 28, 2010

Mr RR Ji,

I know where to " bark " , and I am doing that. I am not returning the compliment.

I have no desire to bark at you.

I think civility is one of the requirements for public discourse, which some

professional astrologers lack. Those who do not want to test my free software

should forget me, at least for ten years (according to you) after which it will

be clear who is really confused.

People contented with erroneous views must be confused with ideas not taught to

them by their wrong-headed gurus. The first line of sandhyaa-vandana is " Rta and

Sat is generated by Tapa " . Those who hate Tapa and Tapasvis can never access or

even respect true Jyotisha. All bookish knowledge of such professionals goes in

vain. They know they are not predicting perfectly, but they cannot accept it

publicly. How can they admit all the horoscopes made by them were wrong ???

-VJ

======================== ============

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> Dear " Vinay Jha " jee,

>

> You are barking up the wrong tree, just as you tried to do on VA forum!

>

> My public prediction about your role in jyotish stands for the next ten years!

As posted in that forum!

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> >

> > <<<<<

> > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was one of those rare

and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck the jyotish forum,

if we were paying attention!

> > >>>>>

> >

> > Unfortunately, instead of discussing the thread, the topic was diverted to

sabre-rattling. I refrained from adding any positive content because no one was

serious.

> >

> > KCD is among least explored topics of Jyotisha and needs more attention than

we give.

> >

> > -VJ

> > ========================== ===

> > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was one of those rare

and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck the jyotish forum,

if we were paying attention! ;-)

> > >

> > > THOR is the Greek name for Jupiter and from time to time he strikes from

the Mount Olympia where He lives and rules from!

> > >

> > > So when thunder-bolts arrive, pay attention to those and let those emanate

from wherever your jupiter is placed in! That is -- if you are the type that is

overly obsessed with your personal horoscope, as most seem to be! Tut tut!!

> > >

> > > And accordingly, the other planets (lights, bodies and shadows!) as well

according to their rather clearly laid out mandates in jyotish scriptures!

> > >

> > > While avoiding the 'fitnaas' that show up in holy garbs! Look what

Christianity and Vatican is going through in this very time of current transits!

> > >

> > > Obama's medical bill passed! USA is on to a new height of democracy!

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> >

>

March 28, 2010

Haha!

Barking up a tree is not a canine reference, " Vinay Jha " jee (I use the

quotation marks because a doubt as to nomenclature has been introduced by a

senior and obviously scholarly jyotishi on this forum) but a Feline one!

Not a dog barking (using sound or akaasha or jupiter) but a cat (big or small)

who uses Her tactile sense and abilities to climb up a tree utilizing the BARK!

On internet fora like these, it is difficult to use the sound or touch

naturally, but some of us seem to be capable of doing just that! Getting

someone's ear and even touching someone!

Amazing, isn't it? This worldly REALITY where PRODIGAL SONS keep returning back

to -- helplessly? ;-)

Rohiniranjan

, " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

>

> Mr RR Ji,

>

> I know where to " bark " , and I am doing that. I am not returning the

compliment. I have no desire to bark at you.

>

> I think civility is one of the requirements for public discourse, which some

professional astrologers lack. Those who do not want to test my free software

should forget me, at least for ten years (according to you) after which it will

be clear who is really confused.

>

> People contented with erroneous views must be confused with ideas not taught

to them by their wrong-headed gurus. The first line of sandhyaa-vandana is " Rta

and Sat is generated by Tapa " . Those who hate Tapa and Tapasvis can never access

or even respect true Jyotisha. All bookish knowledge of such professionals goes

in vain. They know they are not predicting perfectly, but they cannot accept it

publicly. How can they admit all the horoscopes made by them were wrong ???

>

> -VJ

> ======================== ============

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear " Vinay Jha " jee,

> >

> > You are barking up the wrong tree, just as you tried to do on VA forum!

> >

> > My public prediction about your role in jyotish stands for the next ten

years! As posted in that forum!

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > >

> > > <<<<<

> > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was one of those rare

and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck the jyotish forum,

if we were paying attention!

> > > >>>>>

> > >

> > > Unfortunately, instead of discussing the thread, the topic was diverted to

sabre-rattling. I refrained from adding any positive content because no one was

serious.

> > >

> > > KCD is among least explored topics of Jyotisha and needs more attention

than we give.

> > >

> > > -VJ

> > > ========================== ===

> > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was one of those

rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck the jyotish

forum, if we were paying attention! ;-)

> > > >

> > > > THOR is the Greek name for Jupiter and from time to time he strikes from

the Mount Olympia where He lives and rules from!

> > > >

> > > > So when thunder-bolts arrive, pay attention to those and let those

emanate from wherever your jupiter is placed in! That is -- if you are the type

that is overly obsessed with your personal horoscope, as most seem to be! Tut

tut!!

> > > >

> > > > And accordingly, the other planets (lights, bodies and shadows!) as well

according to their rather clearly laid out mandates in jyotish scriptures!

> > > >

> > > > While avoiding the 'fitnaas' that show up in holy garbs! Look what

Christianity and Vatican is going through in this very time of current transits!

> > > >

> > > > Obama's medical bill passed! USA is on to a new height of democracy!

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 28, 2010

Dear Vinay Jee,

Do you do horoscope readings also or do you do only 'intensive' research?

regards

santhosh

________________________________

VJha <vinayjhaa16

Sun, 28 March, 2010 10:00:50 AM

Re: Kaala-chakra Dashaa : Scheme and Sub-periods

Â

Mr RR Ji,

I know where to " bark " , and I am doing that. I am not returning the compliment.

I have no desire to bark at you.

I think civility is one of the requirements for public discourse, which some

professional astrologers lack. Those who do not want to test my free software

should forget me, at least for ten years (according to you) after which it will

be clear who is really confused.

People contented with erroneous views must be confused with ideas not taught to

them by their wrong-headed gurus. The first line of sandhyaa-vandana is " Rta and

Sat is generated by Tapa " . Those who hate Tapa and Tapasvis can never access or

even respect true Jyotisha. All bookish knowledge of such professionals goes in

vain. They know they are not predicting perfectly, but they cannot accept it

publicly. How can they admit all the horoscopes made by them were wrong ???

-VJ

============ ========= === ============

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Dear " Vinay Jha " jee,

>

> You are barking up the wrong tree, just as you tried to do on VA forum!

>

> My public prediction about your role in jyotish stands for the next ten years!

As posted in that forum!

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote:

> >

> > <<<<<

> > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was one of those rare

and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck the jyotish forum,

if we were paying attention!

> > >>>>>

> >

> > Unfortunately, instead of discussing the thread, the topic was diverted to

sabre-rattling. I refrained from adding any positive content because no one was

serious.

> >

> > KCD is among least explored topics of Jyotisha and needs more attention than

we give.

> >

> > -VJ

> > ============ ========= ===== ===

> > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ >

wrote:

> > >

> > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was one of those rare

and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck the jyotish forum,

if we were paying attention! ;-)

> > >

> > > THOR is the Greek name for Jupiter and from time to time he strikes from

the Mount Olympia where He lives and rules from!

> > >

> > > So when thunder-bolts arrive, pay attention to those and let those emanate

from wherever your jupiter is placed in! That is -- if you are the type that is

overly obsessed with your personal horoscope, as most seem to be! Tut tut!!

> > >

> > > And accordingly, the other planets (lights, bodies and shadows!) as well

according to their rather clearly laid out mandates in jyotish scriptures!

> > >

> > > While avoiding the 'fitnaas' that show up in holy garbs! Look what

Christianity and Vatican is going through in this very time of current transits!

> > >

> > > Obama's medical bill passed! USA is on to a new height of democracy!

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> >

>

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March 28, 2010

RR Ji,

It is not the first time you have used feline barking instead of canine. I knew

the meaning. It was your ten year prophesy which prompted me to change the bark.

-VJ

=========================== ======

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> Haha!

>

> Barking up a tree is not a canine reference, " Vinay Jha " jee (I use the

quotation marks because a doubt as to nomenclature has been introduced by a

senior and obviously scholarly jyotishi on this forum) but a Feline one!

>

> Not a dog barking (using sound or akaasha or jupiter) but a cat (big or small)

who uses Her tactile sense and abilities to climb up a tree utilizing the BARK!

>

> On internet fora like these, it is difficult to use the sound or touch

naturally, but some of us seem to be capable of doing just that! Getting

someone's ear and even touching someone!

>

> Amazing, isn't it? This worldly REALITY where PRODIGAL SONS keep returning

back to -- helplessly? ;-)

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> >

> > Mr RR Ji,

> >

> > I know where to " bark " , and I am doing that. I am not returning the

compliment. I have no desire to bark at you.

> >

> > I think civility is one of the requirements for public discourse, which some

professional astrologers lack. Those who do not want to test my free software

should forget me, at least for ten years (according to you) after which it will

be clear who is really confused.

> >

> > People contented with erroneous views must be confused with ideas not taught

to them by their wrong-headed gurus. The first line of sandhyaa-vandana is " Rta

and Sat is generated by Tapa " . Those who hate Tapa and Tapasvis can never access

or even respect true Jyotisha. All bookish knowledge of such professionals goes

in vain. They know they are not predicting perfectly, but they cannot accept it

publicly. How can they admit all the horoscopes made by them were wrong ???

> >

> > -VJ

> > ======================== ============

> > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear " Vinay Jha " jee,

> > >

> > > You are barking up the wrong tree, just as you tried to do on VA forum!

> > >

> > > My public prediction about your role in jyotish stands for the next ten

years! As posted in that forum!

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > <<<<<

> > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was one of those

rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck the jyotish

forum, if we were paying attention!

> > > > >>>>>

> > > >

> > > > Unfortunately, instead of discussing the thread, the topic was diverted

to sabre-rattling. I refrained from adding any positive content because no one

was serious.

> > > >

> > > > KCD is among least explored topics of Jyotisha and needs more attention

than we give.

> > > >

> > > > -VJ

> > > > ========================== ===

> > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was one of those

rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck the jyotish

forum, if we were paying attention! ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > > THOR is the Greek name for Jupiter and from time to time he strikes

from the Mount Olympia where He lives and rules from!

> > > > >

> > > > > So when thunder-bolts arrive, pay attention to those and let those

emanate from wherever your jupiter is placed in! That is -- if you are the type

that is overly obsessed with your personal horoscope, as most seem to be! Tut

tut!!

> > > > >

> > > > > And accordingly, the other planets (lights, bodies and shadows!) as

well according to their rather clearly laid out mandates in jyotish scriptures!

> > > > >

> > > > > While avoiding the 'fitnaas' that show up in holy garbs! Look what

Christianity and Vatican is going through in this very time of current transits!

> > > > >

> > > > > Obama's medical bill passed! USA is on to a new height of democracy!

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 28, 2010

Horoscope reading is a part of 'intensive' research in Jyotisha.

I read only those horoscopes which belong to persons in grave distress. I do not

charge any fees, hence I must be selective in reading horoscopes, otherwise I

will not be able to do anything else.

-VJ

=================================== ====

, Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10

wrote:

>

> Dear Vinay Jee,

> Do you do horoscope readings also or do you do only 'intensive' research?

>

> regards

> santhosh

>

> ________________________________

> VJha <vinayjhaa16

>

> Sun, 28 March, 2010 10:00:50 AM

> Re: Kaala-chakra Dashaa : Scheme and Sub-periods

>

> Â

> Mr RR Ji,

>

> I know where to " bark " , and I am doing that. I am not returning the

compliment. I have no desire to bark at you.

>

> I think civility is one of the requirements for public discourse, which some

professional astrologers lack. Those who do not want to test my free software

should forget me, at least for ten years (according to you) after which it will

be clear who is really confused.

>

> People contented with erroneous views must be confused with ideas not taught

to them by their wrong-headed gurus. The first line of sandhyaa-vandana is " Rta

and Sat is generated by Tapa " . Those who hate Tapa and Tapasvis can never access

or even respect true Jyotisha. All bookish knowledge of such professionals goes

in vain. They know they are not predicting perfectly, but they cannot accept it

publicly. How can they admit all the horoscopes made by them were wrong ???

>

> -VJ

> ============ ========= === ============

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ...>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear " Vinay Jha " jee,

> >

> > You are barking up the wrong tree, just as you tried to do on VA forum!

> >

> > My public prediction about your role in jyotish stands for the next ten

years! As posted in that forum!

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote:

> > >

> > > <<<<<

> > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was one of those rare

and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck the jyotish forum,

if we were paying attention!

> > > >>>>>

> > >

> > > Unfortunately, instead of discussing the thread, the topic was diverted to

sabre-rattling. I refrained from adding any positive content because no one was

serious.

> > >

> > > KCD is among least explored topics of Jyotisha and needs more attention

than we give.

> > >

> > > -VJ

> > > ============ ========= ===== ===

> > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@

> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was one of those

rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck the jyotish

forum, if we were paying attention! ;-)

> > > >

> > > > THOR is the Greek name for Jupiter and from time to time he strikes from

the Mount Olympia where He lives and rules from!

> > > >

> > > > So when thunder-bolts arrive, pay attention to those and let those

emanate from wherever your jupiter is placed in! That is -- if you are the type

that is overly obsessed with your personal horoscope, as most seem to be! Tut

tut!!

> > > >

> > > > And accordingly, the other planets (lights, bodies and shadows!) as well

according to their rather clearly laid out mandates in jyotish scriptures!

> > > >

> > > > While avoiding the 'fitnaas' that show up in holy garbs! Look what

Christianity and Vatican is going through in this very time of current transits!

> > > >

> > > > Obama's medical bill passed! USA is on to a new height of democracy!

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > >

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March 28, 2010

Prediction Mr. " Vinay Jha " , not prophesy!

Predictions are nudges that free-will can change!

Prophecies are more atal!

YOU have in your power to change my prediction and prove me wrong! Just as I

stated on the forum where I posted earlier!

Unless you are one of those weak ones that insist on shooting the messanger just

because it is possible! ;-)

RR_,

, " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

>

> RR Ji,

>

> It is not the first time you have used feline barking instead of canine. I

knew the meaning. It was your ten year prophesy which prompted me to change the

bark.

>

> -VJ

> =========================== ======

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> >

> > Haha!

> >

> > Barking up a tree is not a canine reference, " Vinay Jha " jee (I use the

quotation marks because a doubt as to nomenclature has been introduced by a

senior and obviously scholarly jyotishi on this forum) but a Feline one!

> >

> > Not a dog barking (using sound or akaasha or jupiter) but a cat (big or

small) who uses Her tactile sense and abilities to climb up a tree utilizing the

BARK!

> >

> > On internet fora like these, it is difficult to use the sound or touch

naturally, but some of us seem to be capable of doing just that! Getting

someone's ear and even touching someone!

> >

> > Amazing, isn't it? This worldly REALITY where PRODIGAL SONS keep returning

back to -- helplessly? ;-)

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Mr RR Ji,

> > >

> > > I know where to " bark " , and I am doing that. I am not returning the

compliment. I have no desire to bark at you.

> > >

> > > I think civility is one of the requirements for public discourse, which

some professional astrologers lack. Those who do not want to test my free

software should forget me, at least for ten years (according to you) after which

it will be clear who is really confused.

> > >

> > > People contented with erroneous views must be confused with ideas not

taught to them by their wrong-headed gurus. The first line of sandhyaa-vandana

is " Rta and Sat is generated by Tapa " . Those who hate Tapa and Tapasvis can

never access or even respect true Jyotisha. All bookish knowledge of such

professionals goes in vain. They know they are not predicting perfectly, but

they cannot accept it publicly. How can they admit all the horoscopes made by

them were wrong ???

> > >

> > > -VJ

> > > ======================== ============

> > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear " Vinay Jha " jee,

> > > >

> > > > You are barking up the wrong tree, just as you tried to do on VA forum!

> > > >

> > > > My public prediction about your role in jyotish stands for the next ten

years! As posted in that forum!

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > <<<<<

> > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was one of those

rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck the jyotish

forum, if we were paying attention!

> > > > > >>>>>

> > > > >

> > > > > Unfortunately, instead of discussing the thread, the topic was

diverted to sabre-rattling. I refrained from adding any positive content because

no one was serious.

> > > > >

> > > > > KCD is among least explored topics of Jyotisha and needs more

attention than we give.

> > > > >

> > > > > -VJ

> > > > > ========================== ===

> > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was one of those

rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck the jyotish

forum, if we were paying attention! ;-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > THOR is the Greek name for Jupiter and from time to time he strikes

from the Mount Olympia where He lives and rules from!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So when thunder-bolts arrive, pay attention to those and let those

emanate from wherever your jupiter is placed in! That is -- if you are the type

that is overly obsessed with your personal horoscope, as most seem to be! Tut

tut!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > And accordingly, the other planets (lights, bodies and shadows!) as

well according to their rather clearly laid out mandates in jyotish scriptures!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > While avoiding the 'fitnaas' that show up in holy garbs! Look what

Christianity and Vatican is going through in this very time of current transits!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Obama's medical bill passed! USA is on to a new height of democracy!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 28, 2010

But you were less 'selective' hopefully when you were learning astrology in your

younger days, I hope, " Vinay Jha " jee!

How else would you accumulate the experience? Right??

RR_,

, " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

>

> Horoscope reading is a part of 'intensive' research in Jyotisha.

>

> I read only those horoscopes which belong to persons in grave distress. I do

not charge any fees, hence I must be selective in reading horoscopes, otherwise

I will not be able to do anything else.

>

> -VJ

> =================================== ====

> , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vinay Jee,

> > Do you do horoscope readings also or do you do only 'intensive' research?

> >

> > regards

> > santhosh

> >

> > ________________________________

> > VJha <vinayjhaa16@>

> >

> > Sun, 28 March, 2010 10:00:50 AM

> > Re: Kaala-chakra Dashaa : Scheme and Sub-periods

> >

> > Â

> > Mr RR Ji,

> >

> > I know where to " bark " , and I am doing that. I am not returning the

compliment. I have no desire to bark at you.

> >

> > I think civility is one of the requirements for public discourse, which some

professional astrologers lack. Those who do not want to test my free software

should forget me, at least for ten years (according to you) after which it will

be clear who is really confused.

> >

> > People contented with erroneous views must be confused with ideas not taught

to them by their wrong-headed gurus. The first line of sandhyaa-vandana is " Rta

and Sat is generated by Tapa " . Those who hate Tapa and Tapasvis can never access

or even respect true Jyotisha. All bookish knowledge of such professionals goes

in vain. They know they are not predicting perfectly, but they cannot accept it

publicly. How can they admit all the horoscopes made by them were wrong ???

> >

> > -VJ

> > ============ ========= === ============

> > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear " Vinay Jha " jee,

> > >

> > > You are barking up the wrong tree, just as you tried to do on VA forum!

> > >

> > > My public prediction about your role in jyotish stands for the next ten

years! As posted in that forum!

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > <<<<<

> > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was one of those

rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck the jyotish

forum, if we were paying attention!

> > > > >>>>>

> > > >

> > > > Unfortunately, instead of discussing the thread, the topic was diverted

to sabre-rattling. I refrained from adding any positive content because no one

was serious.

> > > >

> > > > KCD is among least explored topics of Jyotisha and needs more attention

than we give.

> > > >

> > > > -VJ

> > > > ============ ========= ===== ===

> > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was one of those

rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck the jyotish

forum, if we were paying attention! ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > > THOR is the Greek name for Jupiter and from time to time he strikes

from the Mount Olympia where He lives and rules from!

> > > > >

> > > > > So when thunder-bolts arrive, pay attention to those and let those

emanate from wherever your jupiter is placed in! That is -- if you are the type

that is overly obsessed with your personal horoscope, as most seem to be! Tut

tut!!

> > > > >

> > > > > And accordingly, the other planets (lights, bodies and shadows!) as

well according to their rather clearly laid out mandates in jyotish scriptures!

> > > > >

> > > > > While avoiding the 'fitnaas' that show up in holy garbs! Look what

Christianity and Vatican is going through in this very time of current transits!

> > > > >

> > > > > Obama's medical bill passed! USA is on to a new height of democracy!

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!

http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/

> >

March 28, 2010

And since you (Mr. " Vinay Jha " ) chose to X-post here with modifications (the

bane that has plagued Jyotish and particularly BPHS, i.e., modifications!), this

is what I posted on VA forum

|||||||||||||||||||||||||

119158 in VA forum

" Here is a prediction I will make publicly!

" You will simply continue to create more confusion in Jyotish in the near future

(10 years...!)! "

Of course you can prove me wrong just by snapping your magical fingers --

readily! Please do so, we await with baited breath!!

"

RR_,

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> Prediction Mr. " Vinay Jha " , not prophesy!

>

> Predictions are nudges that free-will can change!

> Prophecies are more atal!

>

> YOU have in your power to change my prediction and prove me wrong! Just as I

stated on the forum where I posted earlier!

>

> Unless you are one of those weak ones that insist on shooting the messanger

just because it is possible! ;-)

>

> RR_,

>

> , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> >

> > RR Ji,

> >

> > It is not the first time you have used feline barking instead of canine. I

knew the meaning. It was your ten year prophesy which prompted me to change the

bark.

> >

> > -VJ

> > =========================== ======

> > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Haha!

> > >

> > > Barking up a tree is not a canine reference, " Vinay Jha " jee (I use the

quotation marks because a doubt as to nomenclature has been introduced by a

senior and obviously scholarly jyotishi on this forum) but a Feline one!

> > >

> > > Not a dog barking (using sound or akaasha or jupiter) but a cat (big or

small) who uses Her tactile sense and abilities to climb up a tree utilizing the

BARK!

> > >

> > > On internet fora like these, it is difficult to use the sound or touch

naturally, but some of us seem to be capable of doing just that! Getting

someone's ear and even touching someone!

> > >

> > > Amazing, isn't it? This worldly REALITY where PRODIGAL SONS keep returning

back to -- helplessly? ;-)

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Mr RR Ji,

> > > >

> > > > I know where to " bark " , and I am doing that. I am not returning the

compliment. I have no desire to bark at you.

> > > >

> > > > I think civility is one of the requirements for public discourse, which

some professional astrologers lack. Those who do not want to test my free

software should forget me, at least for ten years (according to you) after which

it will be clear who is really confused.

> > > >

> > > > People contented with erroneous views must be confused with ideas not

taught to them by their wrong-headed gurus. The first line of sandhyaa-vandana

is " Rta and Sat is generated by Tapa " . Those who hate Tapa and Tapasvis can

never access or even respect true Jyotisha. All bookish knowledge of such

professionals goes in vain. They know they are not predicting perfectly, but

they cannot accept it publicly. How can they admit all the horoscopes made by

them were wrong ???

> > > >

> > > > -VJ

> > > > ======================== ============

> > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear " Vinay Jha " jee,

> > > > >

> > > > > You are barking up the wrong tree, just as you tried to do on VA

forum!

> > > > >

> > > > > My public prediction about your role in jyotish stands for the next

ten years! As posted in that forum!

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > >

> > > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > <<<<<

> > > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was one of those

rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck the jyotish

forum, if we were paying attention!

> > > > > > >>>>>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Unfortunately, instead of discussing the thread, the topic was

diverted to sabre-rattling. I refrained from adding any positive content because

no one was serious.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > KCD is among least explored topics of Jyotisha and needs more

attention than we give.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > ========================== ===

> > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was one of

those rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck the

jyotish forum, if we were paying attention! ;-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > THOR is the Greek name for Jupiter and from time to time he

strikes from the Mount Olympia where He lives and rules from!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So when thunder-bolts arrive, pay attention to those and let those

emanate from wherever your jupiter is placed in! That is -- if you are the type

that is overly obsessed with your personal horoscope, as most seem to be! Tut

tut!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > And accordingly, the other planets (lights, bodies and shadows!)

as well according to their rather clearly laid out mandates in jyotish

scriptures!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > While avoiding the 'fitnaas' that show up in holy garbs! Look what

Christianity and Vatican is going through in this very time of current transits!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Obama's medical bill passed! USA is on to a new height of

democracy!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 28, 2010

Yes Sir.

-VJ

=========================

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> But you were less 'selective' hopefully when you were learning astrology in

your younger days, I hope, " Vinay Jha " jee!

>

> How else would you accumulate the experience? Right??

>

> RR_,

>

> , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> >

> > Horoscope reading is a part of 'intensive' research in Jyotisha.

> >

> > I read only those horoscopes which belong to persons in grave distress. I do

not charge any fees, hence I must be selective in reading horoscopes, otherwise

I will not be able to do anything else.

> >

> > -VJ

> > =================================== ====

> > , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vinay Jee,

> > > Do you do horoscope readings also or do you do only 'intensive' research?

> > >

> > > regards

> > > santhosh

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > VJha <vinayjhaa16@>

> > >

> > > Sun, 28 March, 2010 10:00:50 AM

> > > Re: Kaala-chakra Dashaa : Scheme and Sub-periods

> > >

> > > Â

> > > Mr RR Ji,

> > >

> > > I know where to " bark " , and I am doing that. I am not returning the

compliment. I have no desire to bark at you.

> > >

> > > I think civility is one of the requirements for public discourse, which

some professional astrologers lack. Those who do not want to test my free

software should forget me, at least for ten years (according to you) after which

it will be clear who is really confused.

> > >

> > > People contented with erroneous views must be confused with ideas not

taught to them by their wrong-headed gurus. The first line of sandhyaa-vandana

is " Rta and Sat is generated by Tapa " . Those who hate Tapa and Tapasvis can

never access or even respect true Jyotisha. All bookish knowledge of such

professionals goes in vain. They know they are not predicting perfectly, but

they cannot accept it publicly. How can they admit all the horoscopes made by

them were wrong ???

> > >

> > > -VJ

> > > ============ ========= === ============

> > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@

....> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear " Vinay Jha " jee,

> > > >

> > > > You are barking up the wrong tree, just as you tried to do on VA forum!

> > > >

> > > > My public prediction about your role in jyotish stands for the next ten

years! As posted in that forum!

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > <<<<<

> > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was one of those

rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck the jyotish

forum, if we were paying attention!

> > > > > >>>>>

> > > > >

> > > > > Unfortunately, instead of discussing the thread, the topic was

diverted to sabre-rattling. I refrained from adding any positive content because

no one was serious.

> > > > >

> > > > > KCD is among least explored topics of Jyotisha and needs more

attention than we give.

> > > > >

> > > > > -VJ

> > > > > ============ ========= ===== ===

> > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was one of those

rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck the jyotish

forum, if we were paying attention! ;-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > THOR is the Greek name for Jupiter and from time to time he strikes

from the Mount Olympia where He lives and rules from!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So when thunder-bolts arrive, pay attention to those and let those

emanate from wherever your jupiter is placed in! That is -- if you are the type

that is overly obsessed with your personal horoscope, as most seem to be! Tut

tut!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > And accordingly, the other planets (lights, bodies and shadows!) as

well according to their rather clearly laid out mandates in jyotish scriptures!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > While avoiding the 'fitnaas' that show up in holy garbs! Look what

Christianity and Vatican is going through in this very time of current transits!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Obama's medical bill passed! USA is on to a new height of democracy!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!

http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/

> > >

March 28, 2010

Sir, I will do the opposite : I will prove your prediction to be correct. Please

read my answer in VA again. You are lucky enough to have escaped my software.

Otherwise, I would have " confused " you more and more. Those who have SANTOSH

with half-baked Truths cannot digest full Truth.

-VJ

=========================== ===

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> Prediction Mr. " Vinay Jha " , not prophesy!

>

> Predictions are nudges that free-will can change!

> Prophecies are more atal!

>

> YOU have in your power to change my prediction and prove me wrong! Just as I

stated on the forum where I posted earlier!

>

> Unless you are one of those weak ones that insist on shooting the messanger

just because it is possible! ;-)

>

> RR_,

>

> , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> >

> > RR Ji,

> >

> > It is not the first time you have used feline barking instead of canine. I

knew the meaning. It was your ten year prophesy which prompted me to change the

bark.

> >

> > -VJ

> > =========================== ======

> > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Haha!

> > >

> > > Barking up a tree is not a canine reference, " Vinay Jha " jee (I use the

quotation marks because a doubt as to nomenclature has been introduced by a

senior and obviously scholarly jyotishi on this forum) but a Feline one!

> > >

> > > Not a dog barking (using sound or akaasha or jupiter) but a cat (big or

small) who uses Her tactile sense and abilities to climb up a tree utilizing the

BARK!

> > >

> > > On internet fora like these, it is difficult to use the sound or touch

naturally, but some of us seem to be capable of doing just that! Getting

someone's ear and even touching someone!

> > >

> > > Amazing, isn't it? This worldly REALITY where PRODIGAL SONS keep returning

back to -- helplessly? ;-)

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Mr RR Ji,

> > > >

> > > > I know where to " bark " , and I am doing that. I am not returning the

compliment. I have no desire to bark at you.

> > > >

> > > > I think civility is one of the requirements for public discourse, which

some professional astrologers lack. Those who do not want to test my free

software should forget me, at least for ten years (according to you) after which

it will be clear who is really confused.

> > > >

> > > > People contented with erroneous views must be confused with ideas not

taught to them by their wrong-headed gurus. The first line of sandhyaa-vandana

is " Rta and Sat is generated by Tapa " . Those who hate Tapa and Tapasvis can

never access or even respect true Jyotisha. All bookish knowledge of such

professionals goes in vain. They know they are not predicting perfectly, but

they cannot accept it publicly. How can they admit all the horoscopes made by

them were wrong ???

> > > >

> > > > -VJ

> > > > ======================== ============

> > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear " Vinay Jha " jee,

> > > > >

> > > > > You are barking up the wrong tree, just as you tried to do on VA

forum!

> > > > >

> > > > > My public prediction about your role in jyotish stands for the next

ten years! As posted in that forum!

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > >

> > > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > <<<<<

> > > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was one of those

rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck the jyotish

forum, if we were paying attention!

> > > > > > >>>>>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Unfortunately, instead of discussing the thread, the topic was

diverted to sabre-rattling. I refrained from adding any positive content because

no one was serious.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > KCD is among least explored topics of Jyotisha and needs more

attention than we give.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > ========================== ===

> > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was one of

those rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck the

jyotish forum, if we were paying attention! ;-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > THOR is the Greek name for Jupiter and from time to time he

strikes from the Mount Olympia where He lives and rules from!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So when thunder-bolts arrive, pay attention to those and let those

emanate from wherever your jupiter is placed in! That is -- if you are the type

that is overly obsessed with your personal horoscope, as most seem to be! Tut

tut!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > And accordingly, the other planets (lights, bodies and shadows!)

as well according to their rather clearly laid out mandates in jyotish

scriptures!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > While avoiding the 'fitnaas' that show up in holy garbs! Look what

Christianity and Vatican is going through in this very time of current transits!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Obama's medical bill passed! USA is on to a new height of

democracy!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 28, 2010

Rohini Da,

Here is my answer there which you neglected to post here :

" I approve your prediction, Da. I myself made this prediction, but not in my

name, in a message to PVR recently. Those who have too much SANTOSH will be

confounded with confusion concerning their ill-founded SANTOSH. Refusal to

discuss confusions is not SANTOSH. SANTOSH, in Jyotish, is based on true

findings and not on blind support to wrong ideas.

TRUTH cannot be established in Kaliyuga, excepting for a few who value Truth. I

have no desire to change others. My sole aim is to LEAVE my works for posterity.

TIME will decide who is in the right.

Those who lack SANTOSH should not preach it to others. "

You must have read portions of BPHS cited in my mails which are WRONG (eg, AD of

Mercury and Venus in Sun's MD, Venus or Mercury being in 5th, 6th, 8th, 9th

houses from Sun, which is impossible). If you have SANTOSH with such

interpolated verses, let me remain a confused persons intent upon confusing

others.

-VJ

============================ ===

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> And since you (Mr. " Vinay Jha " ) chose to X-post here with modifications (the

bane that has plagued Jyotish and particularly BPHS, i.e., modifications!), this

is what I posted on VA forum

>

> |||||||||||||||||||||||||

> 119158 in VA forum

> " Here is a prediction I will make publicly!

>

> " You will simply continue to create more confusion in Jyotish in the near

future (10 years...!)! "

>

> Of course you can prove me wrong just by snapping your magical fingers --

readily! Please do so, we await with baited breath!!

> "

>

> RR_,

>

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> >

> > Prediction Mr. " Vinay Jha " , not prophesy!

> >

> > Predictions are nudges that free-will can change!

> > Prophecies are more atal!

> >

> > YOU have in your power to change my prediction and prove me wrong! Just as I

stated on the forum where I posted earlier!

> >

> > Unless you are one of those weak ones that insist on shooting the messanger

just because it is possible! ;-)

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > >

> > > RR Ji,

> > >

> > > It is not the first time you have used feline barking instead of canine. I

knew the meaning. It was your ten year prophesy which prompted me to change the

bark.

> > >

> > > -VJ

> > > =========================== ======

> > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Haha!

> > > >

> > > > Barking up a tree is not a canine reference, " Vinay Jha " jee (I use the

quotation marks because a doubt as to nomenclature has been introduced by a

senior and obviously scholarly jyotishi on this forum) but a Feline one!

> > > >

> > > > Not a dog barking (using sound or akaasha or jupiter) but a cat (big or

small) who uses Her tactile sense and abilities to climb up a tree utilizing the

BARK!

> > > >

> > > > On internet fora like these, it is difficult to use the sound or touch

naturally, but some of us seem to be capable of doing just that! Getting

someone's ear and even touching someone!

> > > >

> > > > Amazing, isn't it? This worldly REALITY where PRODIGAL SONS keep

returning back to -- helplessly? ;-)

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Mr RR Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I know where to " bark " , and I am doing that. I am not returning the

compliment. I have no desire to bark at you.

> > > > >

> > > > > I think civility is one of the requirements for public discourse,

which some professional astrologers lack. Those who do not want to test my free

software should forget me, at least for ten years (according to you) after which

it will be clear who is really confused.

> > > > >

> > > > > People contented with erroneous views must be confused with ideas not

taught to them by their wrong-headed gurus. The first line of sandhyaa-vandana

is " Rta and Sat is generated by Tapa " . Those who hate Tapa and Tapasvis can

never access or even respect true Jyotisha. All bookish knowledge of such

professionals goes in vain. They know they are not predicting perfectly, but

they cannot accept it publicly. How can they admit all the horoscopes made by

them were wrong ???

> > > > >

> > > > > -VJ

> > > > > ======================== ============

> > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear " Vinay Jha " jee,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You are barking up the wrong tree, just as you tried to do on VA

forum!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My public prediction about your role in jyotish stands for the next

ten years! As posted in that forum!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@>

wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <<<<<

> > > > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was one of

those rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck the

jyotish forum, if we were paying attention!

> > > > > > > >>>>>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Unfortunately, instead of discussing the thread, the topic was

diverted to sabre-rattling. I refrained from adding any positive content because

no one was serious.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > KCD is among least explored topics of Jyotisha and needs more

attention than we give.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > > ========================== ===

> > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was one of

those rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck the

jyotish forum, if we were paying attention! ;-)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > THOR is the Greek name for Jupiter and from time to time he

strikes from the Mount Olympia where He lives and rules from!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So when thunder-bolts arrive, pay attention to those and let

those emanate from wherever your jupiter is placed in! That is -- if you are the

type that is overly obsessed with your personal horoscope, as most seem to be!

Tut tut!!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > And accordingly, the other planets (lights, bodies and shadows!)

as well according to their rather clearly laid out mandates in jyotish

scriptures!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > While avoiding the 'fitnaas' that show up in holy garbs! Look

what Christianity and Vatican is going through in this very time of current

transits!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Obama's medical bill passed! USA is on to a new height of

democracy!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 28, 2010

Dear " Vinay Jha " jee,

Whether my prediction comes true or not is not important, neither for me and

certainly not for you, but someone will have to pay for the umpteen hours wasted

by thousands of trusting people who were simply stated taken on a 'ride' to

nowhere!!

vedic astrology/message/119160

And that includes many fine and trusting individuals!

Disgusting!

Rohiniranjan

, " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

>

> Sir, I will do the opposite : I will prove your prediction to be correct.

Please read my answer in VA again. You are lucky enough to have escaped my

software. Otherwise, I would have " confused " you more and more. Those who have

SANTOSH with half-baked Truths cannot digest full Truth.

>

> -VJ

> =========================== ===

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> >

> > Prediction Mr. " Vinay Jha " , not prophesy!

> >

> > Predictions are nudges that free-will can change!

> > Prophecies are more atal!

> >

> > YOU have in your power to change my prediction and prove me wrong! Just as I

stated on the forum where I posted earlier!

> >

> > Unless you are one of those weak ones that insist on shooting the messanger

just because it is possible! ;-)

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > >

> > > RR Ji,

> > >

> > > It is not the first time you have used feline barking instead of canine. I

knew the meaning. It was your ten year prophesy which prompted me to change the

bark.

> > >

> > > -VJ

> > > =========================== ======

> > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Haha!

> > > >

> > > > Barking up a tree is not a canine reference, " Vinay Jha " jee (I use the

quotation marks because a doubt as to nomenclature has been introduced by a

senior and obviously scholarly jyotishi on this forum) but a Feline one!

> > > >

> > > > Not a dog barking (using sound or akaasha or jupiter) but a cat (big or

small) who uses Her tactile sense and abilities to climb up a tree utilizing the

BARK!

> > > >

> > > > On internet fora like these, it is difficult to use the sound or touch

naturally, but some of us seem to be capable of doing just that! Getting

someone's ear and even touching someone!

> > > >

> > > > Amazing, isn't it? This worldly REALITY where PRODIGAL SONS keep

returning back to -- helplessly? ;-)

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Mr RR Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I know where to " bark " , and I am doing that. I am not returning the

compliment. I have no desire to bark at you.

> > > > >

> > > > > I think civility is one of the requirements for public discourse,

which some professional astrologers lack. Those who do not want to test my free

software should forget me, at least for ten years (according to you) after which

it will be clear who is really confused.

> > > > >

> > > > > People contented with erroneous views must be confused with ideas not

taught to them by their wrong-headed gurus. The first line of sandhyaa-vandana

is " Rta and Sat is generated by Tapa " . Those who hate Tapa and Tapasvis can

never access or even respect true Jyotisha. All bookish knowledge of such

professionals goes in vain. They know they are not predicting perfectly, but

they cannot accept it publicly. How can they admit all the horoscopes made by

them were wrong ???

> > > > >

> > > > > -VJ

> > > > > ======================== ============

> > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear " Vinay Jha " jee,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You are barking up the wrong tree, just as you tried to do on VA

forum!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My public prediction about your role in jyotish stands for the next

ten years! As posted in that forum!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@>

wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <<<<<

> > > > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was one of

those rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck the

jyotish forum, if we were paying attention!

> > > > > > > >>>>>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Unfortunately, instead of discussing the thread, the topic was

diverted to sabre-rattling. I refrained from adding any positive content because

no one was serious.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > KCD is among least explored topics of Jyotisha and needs more

attention than we give.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > > ========================== ===

> > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was one of

those rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck the

jyotish forum, if we were paying attention! ;-)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > THOR is the Greek name for Jupiter and from time to time he

strikes from the Mount Olympia where He lives and rules from!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So when thunder-bolts arrive, pay attention to those and let

those emanate from wherever your jupiter is placed in! That is -- if you are the

type that is overly obsessed with your personal horoscope, as most seem to be!

Tut tut!!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > And accordingly, the other planets (lights, bodies and shadows!)

as well according to their rather clearly laid out mandates in jyotish

scriptures!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > While avoiding the 'fitnaas' that show up in holy garbs! Look

what Christianity and Vatican is going through in this very time of current

transits!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Obama's medical bill passed! USA is on to a new height of

democracy!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 28, 2010

Disgusting!

, " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

>

> Rohini Da,

>

> Here is my answer there which you neglected to post here :

>

> " I approve your prediction, Da. I myself made this prediction, but not in my

name, in a message to PVR recently. Those who have too much SANTOSH will be

confounded with confusion concerning their ill-founded SANTOSH. Refusal to

discuss confusions is not SANTOSH. SANTOSH, in Jyotish, is based on true

findings and not on blind support to wrong ideas.

>

> TRUTH cannot be established in Kaliyuga, excepting for a few who value Truth.

I have no desire to change others. My sole aim is to LEAVE my works for

posterity. TIME will decide who is in the right.

>

> Those who lack SANTOSH should not preach it to others. "

>

> You must have read portions of BPHS cited in my mails which are WRONG (eg, AD

of Mercury and Venus in Sun's MD, Venus or Mercury being in 5th, 6th, 8th, 9th

houses from Sun, which is impossible). If you have SANTOSH with such

interpolated verses, let me remain a confused persons intent upon confusing

others.

>

> -VJ

> ============================ ===

>

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> >

> > And since you (Mr. " Vinay Jha " ) chose to X-post here with modifications (the

bane that has plagued Jyotish and particularly BPHS, i.e., modifications!), this

is what I posted on VA forum

> >

> > |||||||||||||||||||||||||

> > 119158 in VA forum

> > " Here is a prediction I will make publicly!

> >

> > " You will simply continue to create more confusion in Jyotish in the near

future (10 years...!)! "

> >

> > Of course you can prove me wrong just by snapping your magical fingers --

readily! Please do so, we await with baited breath!!

> > "

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Prediction Mr. " Vinay Jha " , not prophesy!

> > >

> > > Predictions are nudges that free-will can change!

> > > Prophecies are more atal!

> > >

> > > YOU have in your power to change my prediction and prove me wrong! Just as

I stated on the forum where I posted earlier!

> > >

> > > Unless you are one of those weak ones that insist on shooting the

messanger just because it is possible! ;-)

> > >

> > > RR_,

> > >

> > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > RR Ji,

> > > >

> > > > It is not the first time you have used feline barking instead of canine.

I knew the meaning. It was your ten year prophesy which prompted me to change

the bark.

> > > >

> > > > -VJ

> > > > =========================== ======

> > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Haha!

> > > > >

> > > > > Barking up a tree is not a canine reference, " Vinay Jha " jee (I use

the quotation marks because a doubt as to nomenclature has been introduced by a

senior and obviously scholarly jyotishi on this forum) but a Feline one!

> > > > >

> > > > > Not a dog barking (using sound or akaasha or jupiter) but a cat (big

or small) who uses Her tactile sense and abilities to climb up a tree utilizing

the BARK!

> > > > >

> > > > > On internet fora like these, it is difficult to use the sound or touch

naturally, but some of us seem to be capable of doing just that! Getting

someone's ear and even touching someone!

> > > > >

> > > > > Amazing, isn't it? This worldly REALITY where PRODIGAL SONS keep

returning back to -- helplessly? ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > >

> > > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mr RR Ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I know where to " bark " , and I am doing that. I am not returning the

compliment. I have no desire to bark at you.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I think civility is one of the requirements for public discourse,

which some professional astrologers lack. Those who do not want to test my free

software should forget me, at least for ten years (according to you) after which

it will be clear who is really confused.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > People contented with erroneous views must be confused with ideas

not taught to them by their wrong-headed gurus. The first line of

sandhyaa-vandana is " Rta and Sat is generated by Tapa " . Those who hate Tapa and

Tapasvis can never access or even respect true Jyotisha. All bookish knowledge

of such professionals goes in vain. They know they are not predicting perfectly,

but they cannot accept it publicly. How can they admit all the horoscopes made

by them were wrong ???

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > ======================== ============

> > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear " Vinay Jha " jee,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You are barking up the wrong tree, just as you tried to do on VA

forum!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My public prediction about your role in jyotish stands for the

next ten years! As posted in that forum!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > <<<<<

> > > > > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was one of

those rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck the

jyotish forum, if we were paying attention!

> > > > > > > > >>>>>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Unfortunately, instead of discussing the thread, the topic was

diverted to sabre-rattling. I refrained from adding any positive content because

no one was serious.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > KCD is among least explored topics of Jyotisha and needs more

attention than we give.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > > > ========================== ===

> > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was one of

those rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck the

jyotish forum, if we were paying attention! ;-)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > THOR is the Greek name for Jupiter and from time to time he

strikes from the Mount Olympia where He lives and rules from!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > So when thunder-bolts arrive, pay attention to those and let

those emanate from wherever your jupiter is placed in! That is -- if you are the

type that is overly obsessed with your personal horoscope, as most seem to be!

Tut tut!!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > And accordingly, the other planets (lights, bodies and

shadows!) as well according to their rather clearly laid out mandates in jyotish

scriptures!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > While avoiding the 'fitnaas' that show up in holy garbs! Look

what Christianity and Vatican is going through in this very time of current

transits!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Obama's medical bill passed! USA is on to a new height of

democracy!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 28, 2010

What is disgusting, " Venus or Mercury being in 5th, 6th, 8th, 9th

houses from Sun " as some wrongheaded editors of BPHS are publishing, or my

efforts to expose such interpolations in BPHS ??

I think it is my presence in internet which is disgusting.

-VJ

=========================== ==

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> Disgusting!

>

> , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> >

> > Rohini Da,

> >

> > Here is my answer there which you neglected to post here :

> >

> > " I approve your prediction, Da. I myself made this prediction, but not in my

name, in a message to PVR recently. Those who have too much SANTOSH will be

confounded with confusion concerning their ill-founded SANTOSH. Refusal to

discuss confusions is not SANTOSH. SANTOSH, in Jyotish, is based on true

findings and not on blind support to wrong ideas.

> >

> > TRUTH cannot be established in Kaliyuga, excepting for a few who value

Truth. I have no desire to change others. My sole aim is to LEAVE my works for

posterity. TIME will decide who is in the right.

> >

> > Those who lack SANTOSH should not preach it to others. "

> >

> > You must have read portions of BPHS cited in my mails which are WRONG (eg,

AD of Mercury and Venus in Sun's MD, Venus or Mercury being in 5th, 6th, 8th,

9th houses from Sun, which is impossible). If you have SANTOSH with such

interpolated verses, let me remain a confused persons intent upon confusing

others.

> >

> > -VJ

> > ============================ ===

> >

> > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > And since you (Mr. " Vinay Jha " ) chose to X-post here with modifications

(the bane that has plagued Jyotish and particularly BPHS, i.e., modifications!),

this is what I posted on VA forum

> > >

> > > |||||||||||||||||||||||||

> > > 119158 in VA forum

> > > " Here is a prediction I will make publicly!

> > >

> > > " You will simply continue to create more confusion in Jyotish in the near

future (10 years...!)! "

> > >

> > > Of course you can prove me wrong just by snapping your magical fingers --

readily! Please do so, we await with baited breath!!

> > > "

> > >

> > > RR_,

> > >

> > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Prediction Mr. " Vinay Jha " , not prophesy!

> > > >

> > > > Predictions are nudges that free-will can change!

> > > > Prophecies are more atal!

> > > >

> > > > YOU have in your power to change my prediction and prove me wrong! Just

as I stated on the forum where I posted earlier!

> > > >

> > > > Unless you are one of those weak ones that insist on shooting the

messanger just because it is possible! ;-)

> > > >

> > > > RR_,

> > > >

> > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > RR Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > It is not the first time you have used feline barking instead of

canine. I knew the meaning. It was your ten year prophesy which prompted me to

change the bark.

> > > > >

> > > > > -VJ

> > > > > =========================== ======

> > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Haha!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Barking up a tree is not a canine reference, " Vinay Jha " jee (I use

the quotation marks because a doubt as to nomenclature has been introduced by a

senior and obviously scholarly jyotishi on this forum) but a Feline one!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Not a dog barking (using sound or akaasha or jupiter) but a cat (big

or small) who uses Her tactile sense and abilities to climb up a tree utilizing

the BARK!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On internet fora like these, it is difficult to use the sound or

touch naturally, but some of us seem to be capable of doing just that! Getting

someone's ear and even touching someone!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Amazing, isn't it? This worldly REALITY where PRODIGAL SONS keep

returning back to -- helplessly? ;-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@>

wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mr RR Ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I know where to " bark " , and I am doing that. I am not returning

the compliment. I have no desire to bark at you.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I think civility is one of the requirements for public discourse,

which some professional astrologers lack. Those who do not want to test my free

software should forget me, at least for ten years (according to you) after which

it will be clear who is really confused.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > People contented with erroneous views must be confused with ideas

not taught to them by their wrong-headed gurus. The first line of

sandhyaa-vandana is " Rta and Sat is generated by Tapa " . Those who hate Tapa and

Tapasvis can never access or even respect true Jyotisha. All bookish knowledge

of such professionals goes in vain. They know they are not predicting perfectly,

but they cannot accept it publicly. How can they admit all the horoscopes made

by them were wrong ???

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > > ======================== ============

> > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear " Vinay Jha " jee,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You are barking up the wrong tree, just as you tried to do on VA

forum!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My public prediction about your role in jyotish stands for the

next ten years! As posted in that forum!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > <<<<<

> > > > > > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was one of

those rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck the

jyotish forum, if we were paying attention!

> > > > > > > > > >>>>>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, instead of discussing the thread, the topic was

diverted to sabre-rattling. I refrained from adding any positive content because

no one was serious.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > KCD is among least explored topics of Jyotisha and needs more

attention than we give.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > > > > ========================== ===

> > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was one

of those rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck the

jyotish forum, if we were paying attention! ;-)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > THOR is the Greek name for Jupiter and from time to time he

strikes from the Mount Olympia where He lives and rules from!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > So when thunder-bolts arrive, pay attention to those and let

those emanate from wherever your jupiter is placed in! That is -- if you are the

type that is overly obsessed with your personal horoscope, as most seem to be!

Tut tut!!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > And accordingly, the other planets (lights, bodies and

shadows!) as well according to their rather clearly laid out mandates in jyotish

scriptures!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > While avoiding the 'fitnaas' that show up in holy garbs!

Look what Christianity and Vatican is going through in this very time of current

transits!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Obama's medical bill passed! USA is on to a new height of

democracy!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 28, 2010

Haha! Couldn't stay away, eh?

Another promise made publicly and broken within seconds?

I think you think too much about " I " and once that dissolves away completely,

you will begin to truly live up to the name and promise that your parents or

whosoever gave you your beautiful name wished upon you!

You may find it strange but when you really live up to your name, Vinay, I will

shed a happy tear!

Rohiniranjan

, " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

>

> What is disgusting, " Venus or Mercury being in 5th, 6th, 8th, 9th

> houses from Sun " as some wrongheaded editors of BPHS are publishing, or my

efforts to expose such interpolations in BPHS ??

>

> I think it is my presence in internet which is disgusting.

>

> -VJ

> =========================== ==

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> >

> > Disgusting!

> >

> > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Rohini Da,

> > >

> > > Here is my answer there which you neglected to post here :

> > >

> > > " I approve your prediction, Da. I myself made this prediction, but not in

my name, in a message to PVR recently. Those who have too much SANTOSH will be

confounded with confusion concerning their ill-founded SANTOSH. Refusal to

discuss confusions is not SANTOSH. SANTOSH, in Jyotish, is based on true

findings and not on blind support to wrong ideas.

> > >

> > > TRUTH cannot be established in Kaliyuga, excepting for a few who value

Truth. I have no desire to change others. My sole aim is to LEAVE my works for

posterity. TIME will decide who is in the right.

> > >

> > > Those who lack SANTOSH should not preach it to others. "

> > >

> > > You must have read portions of BPHS cited in my mails which are WRONG (eg,

AD of Mercury and Venus in Sun's MD, Venus or Mercury being in 5th, 6th, 8th,

9th houses from Sun, which is impossible). If you have SANTOSH with such

interpolated verses, let me remain a confused persons intent upon confusing

others.

> > >

> > > -VJ

> > > ============================ ===

> > >

> > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > And since you (Mr. " Vinay Jha " ) chose to X-post here with modifications

(the bane that has plagued Jyotish and particularly BPHS, i.e., modifications!),

this is what I posted on VA forum

> > > >

> > > > |||||||||||||||||||||||||

> > > > 119158 in VA forum

> > > > " Here is a prediction I will make publicly!

> > > >

> > > > " You will simply continue to create more confusion in Jyotish in the

near future (10 years...!)! "

> > > >

> > > > Of course you can prove me wrong just by snapping your magical fingers

-- readily! Please do so, we await with baited breath!!

> > > > "

> > > >

> > > > RR_,

> > > >

> > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Prediction Mr. " Vinay Jha " , not prophesy!

> > > > >

> > > > > Predictions are nudges that free-will can change!

> > > > > Prophecies are more atal!

> > > > >

> > > > > YOU have in your power to change my prediction and prove me wrong!

Just as I stated on the forum where I posted earlier!

> > > > >

> > > > > Unless you are one of those weak ones that insist on shooting the

messanger just because it is possible! ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > > RR_,

> > > > >

> > > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR Ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It is not the first time you have used feline barking instead of

canine. I knew the meaning. It was your ten year prophesy which prompted me to

change the bark.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > =========================== ======

> > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Haha!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Barking up a tree is not a canine reference, " Vinay Jha " jee (I

use the quotation marks because a doubt as to nomenclature has been introduced

by a senior and obviously scholarly jyotishi on this forum) but a Feline one!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Not a dog barking (using sound or akaasha or jupiter) but a cat

(big or small) who uses Her tactile sense and abilities to climb up a tree

utilizing the BARK!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On internet fora like these, it is difficult to use the sound or

touch naturally, but some of us seem to be capable of doing just that! Getting

someone's ear and even touching someone!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Amazing, isn't it? This worldly REALITY where PRODIGAL SONS keep

returning back to -- helplessly? ;-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mr RR Ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I know where to " bark " , and I am doing that. I am not returning

the compliment. I have no desire to bark at you.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I think civility is one of the requirements for public

discourse, which some professional astrologers lack. Those who do not want to

test my free software should forget me, at least for ten years (according to

you) after which it will be clear who is really confused.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > People contented with erroneous views must be confused with

ideas not taught to them by their wrong-headed gurus. The first line of

sandhyaa-vandana is " Rta and Sat is generated by Tapa " . Those who hate Tapa and

Tapasvis can never access or even respect true Jyotisha. All bookish knowledge

of such professionals goes in vain. They know they are not predicting perfectly,

but they cannot accept it publicly. How can they admit all the horoscopes made

by them were wrong ???

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > > > ======================== ============

> > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear " Vinay Jha " jee,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You are barking up the wrong tree, just as you tried to do on

VA forum!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > My public prediction about your role in jyotish stands for the

next ten years! As posted in that forum!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > <<<<<

> > > > > > > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was one

of those rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck the

jyotish forum, if we were paying attention!

> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, instead of discussing the thread, the topic

was diverted to sabre-rattling. I refrained from adding any positive content

because no one was serious.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > KCD is among least explored topics of Jyotisha and needs

more attention than we give.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > > > > > ========================== ===

> > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was

one of those rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck

the jyotish forum, if we were paying attention! ;-)

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > THOR is the Greek name for Jupiter and from time to time

he strikes from the Mount Olympia where He lives and rules from!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > So when thunder-bolts arrive, pay attention to those and

let those emanate from wherever your jupiter is placed in! That is -- if you are

the type that is overly obsessed with your personal horoscope, as most seem to

be! Tut tut!!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > And accordingly, the other planets (lights, bodies and

shadows!) as well according to their rather clearly laid out mandates in jyotish

scriptures!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > While avoiding the 'fitnaas' that show up in holy garbs!

Look what Christianity and Vatican is going through in this very time of current

transits!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Obama's medical bill passed! USA is on to a new height of

democracy!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 28, 2010

Sir,

You have used following words for me in a recent post :

" Too many claims and promises, SIR! DO something!! SHOW something!!!

The worldly

reality is very rough!!!! Why else would one have fled -- going back a

few years? "

You ask me to show something, but you shut your eyes when I show

something. If you are really sincere and honest, which now I doubt, why

you ignored the evidences I put forth (

http://jyotirvidya.wetpaint.com/page/Annual+Rains ) after working day

and night for over two hundred hours ??

Why you have no time for examining the evidences I showed ? Earlier, you

said you will listen only aftwer the whole world listens to me, which is

just impossible. Now, you are changing tracks and are wrongly charging

me of not having shown anything at all !!

Sir, whether it is Rainfall or Stock-prices or individual-charts, the

methods are everywhere the same. I never used any phalita (predictive)

principle which is not used by you. The difference lies in Ganita. I

produced twenty charts from Kundalee and twenty from JHORA : why you do

not compare the results IF YOU ARE REALLY SINCERE ?? Although I am

sure you will not find time, yet I ask you to examine the following

because you have charged me of having shown nothing :

http://jyotirvidya.wetpaint.com/page/Annual+Rains

You will need hours after hours to examine, but the more time you spend

on these charts, the more delighted you will be (provided you take a

serious reading).

-VJ

=================================== ===

, " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Dear " Vinay Jha " jee,

>

> Whether my prediction comes true or not is not important, neither for

me and certainly not for you, but someone will have to pay for the

umpteen hours wasted by thousands of trusting people who were simply

stated taken on a 'ride' to nowhere!!

>

> vedic astrology/message/119160

>

> And that includes many fine and trusting individuals!

>

> Disgusting!

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@ wrote:

> >

> > Sir, I will do the opposite : I will prove your prediction to be

correct. Please read my answer in VA again. You are lucky enough to have

escaped my software. Otherwise, I would have " confused " you more and

more. Those who have SANTOSH with half-baked Truths cannot digest full

Truth.

> >

> > -VJ

> > =========================== ===

> > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Prediction Mr. " Vinay Jha " , not prophesy!

> > >

> > > Predictions are nudges that free-will can change!

> > > Prophecies are more atal!

> > >

> > > YOU have in your power to change my prediction and prove me wrong!

Just as I stated on the forum where I posted earlier!

> > >

> > > Unless you are one of those weak ones that insist on shooting the

messanger just because it is possible! ;-)

> > >

> > > RR_,

> > >

> > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > RR Ji,

> > > >

> > > > It is not the first time you have used feline barking instead of

canine. I knew the meaning. It was your ten year prophesy which prompted

me to change the bark.

> > > >

> > > > -VJ

> > > > =========================== ======

> > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Haha!

> > > > >

> > > > > Barking up a tree is not a canine reference, " Vinay Jha " jee

(I use the quotation marks because a doubt as to nomenclature has been

introduced by a senior and obviously scholarly jyotishi on this forum)

but a Feline one!

> > > > >

> > > > > Not a dog barking (using sound or akaasha or jupiter) but a

cat (big or small) who uses Her tactile sense and abilities to climb up

a tree utilizing the BARK!

> > > > >

> > > > > On internet fora like these, it is difficult to use the sound

or touch naturally, but some of us seem to be capable of doing just

that! Getting someone's ear and even touching someone!

> > > > >

> > > > > Amazing, isn't it? This worldly REALITY where PRODIGAL SONS

keep returning back to -- helplessly? ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > >

> > > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mr RR Ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I know where to " bark " , and I am doing that. I am not

returning the compliment. I have no desire to bark at you.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I think civility is one of the requirements for public

discourse, which some professional astrologers lack. Those who do not

want to test my free software should forget me, at least for ten years

(according to you) after which it will be clear who is really confused.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > People contented with erroneous views must be confused with

ideas not taught to them by their wrong-headed gurus. The first line of

sandhyaa-vandana is " Rta and Sat is generated by Tapa " . Those who hate

Tapa and Tapasvis can never access or even respect true Jyotisha. All

bookish knowledge of such professionals goes in vain. They know they are

not predicting perfectly, but they cannot accept it publicly. How can

they admit all the horoscopes made by them were wrong ???

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > ======================== ============

> > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear " Vinay Jha " jee,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You are barking up the wrong tree, just as you tried to do

on VA forum!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My public prediction about your role in jyotish stands for

the next ten years! As posted in that forum!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " VJha "

<vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > <<<<<

> > > > > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was

one of those rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that

struck the jyotish forum, if we were paying attention!

> > > > > > > > >>>>>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Unfortunately, instead of discussing the thread, the

topic was diverted to sabre-rattling. I refrained from adding any

positive content because no one was serious.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > KCD is among least explored topics of Jyotisha and needs

more attention than we give.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > > > ========================== ===

> > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it

was one of those rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH

that struck the jyotish forum, if we were paying attention! ;-)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > THOR is the Greek name for Jupiter and from time to

time he strikes from the Mount Olympia where He lives and rules from!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > So when thunder-bolts arrive, pay attention to those

and let those emanate from wherever your jupiter is placed in! That is

-- if you are the type that is overly obsessed with your personal

horoscope, as most seem to be! Tut tut!!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > And accordingly, the other planets (lights, bodies and

shadows!) as well according to their rather clearly laid out mandates in

jyotish scriptures!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > While avoiding the 'fitnaas' that show up in holy

garbs! Look what Christianity and Vatican is going through in this very

time of current transits!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Obama's medical bill passed! USA is on to a new height

of democracy!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 28, 2010

Dear Vinay,

And I use this direct approach not to insult you but simply because I am older

than you and we have travelled a bit together and you were introduced to me by

Projjwal Ghosh who was a wonderful soul!

Here is my question: Why are you not convinced that your way is the right and

correct way? Why do you care or need the approval of others? Whether they have

benefics rising when they were born or cruel malefics exalted? What does all

that really matter?

You accuse me of lot of things such as competition and what not! Have you EVER

seen me pushing my AGENDA on all these forums, ever? Or ANYONE ELSE THAT IS

READING THIS?

You call my postings comical and comedies and indeed that is the point! Internet

is NOT a serious medium for what you are trying to achieve! Continue on the way

you are continuing on and I promise you, you will continue to be ridiculed and

not taken seriously! EVER ;-)

Desh Kaal Patra!

Simple?

Regards,

Rohini_da

, " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

>

> Sir,

>

> You have used following words for me in a recent post :

>

> " Too many claims and promises, SIR! DO something!! SHOW something!!!

> The worldly

> reality is very rough!!!! Why else would one have fled -- going back a

> few years? "

>

> You ask me to show something, but you shut your eyes when I show

> something. If you are really sincere and honest, which now I doubt, why

> you ignored the evidences I put forth (

> http://jyotirvidya.wetpaint.com/page/Annual+Rains ) after working day

> and night for over two hundred hours ??

>

> Why you have no time for examining the evidences I showed ? Earlier, you

> said you will listen only aftwer the whole world listens to me, which is

> just impossible. Now, you are changing tracks and are wrongly charging

> me of not having shown anything at all !!

>

> Sir, whether it is Rainfall or Stock-prices or individual-charts, the

> methods are everywhere the same. I never used any phalita (predictive)

> principle which is not used by you. The difference lies in Ganita. I

> produced twenty charts from Kundalee and twenty from JHORA : why you do

> not compare the results IF YOU ARE REALLY SINCERE ?? Although I am

> sure you will not find time, yet I ask you to examine the following

> because you have charged me of having shown nothing :

>

> http://jyotirvidya.wetpaint.com/page/Annual+Rains

>

> You will need hours after hours to examine, but the more time you spend

> on these charts, the more delighted you will be (provided you take a

> serious reading).

>

> -VJ

> =================================== ===

>

> , " rohinicrystal "

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear " Vinay Jha " jee,

> >

> > Whether my prediction comes true or not is not important, neither for

> me and certainly not for you, but someone will have to pay for the

> umpteen hours wasted by thousands of trusting people who were simply

> stated taken on a 'ride' to nowhere!!

> >

> > vedic astrology/message/119160

> >

> > And that includes many fine and trusting individuals!

> >

> > Disgusting!

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Sir, I will do the opposite : I will prove your prediction to be

> correct. Please read my answer in VA again. You are lucky enough to have

> escaped my software. Otherwise, I would have " confused " you more and

> more. Those who have SANTOSH with half-baked Truths cannot digest full

> Truth.

> > >

> > > -VJ

> > > =========================== ===

> > > , " rohinicrystal "

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Prediction Mr. " Vinay Jha " , not prophesy!

> > > >

> > > > Predictions are nudges that free-will can change!

> > > > Prophecies are more atal!

> > > >

> > > > YOU have in your power to change my prediction and prove me wrong!

> Just as I stated on the forum where I posted earlier!

> > > >

> > > > Unless you are one of those weak ones that insist on shooting the

> messanger just because it is possible! ;-)

> > > >

> > > > RR_,

> > > >

> > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@>

> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > RR Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > It is not the first time you have used feline barking instead of

> canine. I knew the meaning. It was your ten year prophesy which prompted

> me to change the bark.

> > > > >

> > > > > -VJ

> > > > > =========================== ======

> > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Haha!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Barking up a tree is not a canine reference, " Vinay Jha " jee

> (I use the quotation marks because a doubt as to nomenclature has been

> introduced by a senior and obviously scholarly jyotishi on this forum)

> but a Feline one!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Not a dog barking (using sound or akaasha or jupiter) but a

> cat (big or small) who uses Her tactile sense and abilities to climb up

> a tree utilizing the BARK!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On internet fora like these, it is difficult to use the sound

> or touch naturally, but some of us seem to be capable of doing just

> that! Getting someone's ear and even touching someone!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Amazing, isn't it? This worldly REALITY where PRODIGAL SONS

> keep returning back to -- helplessly? ;-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@>

> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mr RR Ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I know where to " bark " , and I am doing that. I am not

> returning the compliment. I have no desire to bark at you.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I think civility is one of the requirements for public

> discourse, which some professional astrologers lack. Those who do not

> want to test my free software should forget me, at least for ten years

> (according to you) after which it will be clear who is really confused.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > People contented with erroneous views must be confused with

> ideas not taught to them by their wrong-headed gurus. The first line of

> sandhyaa-vandana is " Rta and Sat is generated by Tapa " . Those who hate

> Tapa and Tapasvis can never access or even respect true Jyotisha. All

> bookish knowledge of such professionals goes in vain. They know they are

> not predicting perfectly, but they cannot accept it publicly. How can

> they admit all the horoscopes made by them were wrong ???

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > > ======================== ============

> > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear " Vinay Jha " jee,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You are barking up the wrong tree, just as you tried to do

> on VA forum!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My public prediction about your role in jyotish stands for

> the next ten years! As posted in that forum!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " VJha "

> <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > <<<<<

> > > > > > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was

> one of those rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that

> struck the jyotish forum, if we were paying attention!

> > > > > > > > > >>>>>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, instead of discussing the thread, the

> topic was diverted to sabre-rattling. I refrained from adding any

> positive content because no one was serious.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > KCD is among least explored topics of Jyotisha and needs

> more attention than we give.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > > > > ========================== ===

> > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it

> was one of those rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH

> that struck the jyotish forum, if we were paying attention! ;-)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > THOR is the Greek name for Jupiter and from time to

> time he strikes from the Mount Olympia where He lives and rules from!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > So when thunder-bolts arrive, pay attention to those

> and let those emanate from wherever your jupiter is placed in! That is

> -- if you are the type that is overly obsessed with your personal

> horoscope, as most seem to be! Tut tut!!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > And accordingly, the other planets (lights, bodies and

> shadows!) as well according to their rather clearly laid out mandates in

> jyotish scriptures!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > While avoiding the 'fitnaas' that show up in holy

> garbs! Look what Christianity and Vatican is going through in this very

> time of current transits!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Obama's medical bill passed! USA is on to a new height

> of democracy!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 28, 2010

Mr Rohiniranjan,

You refused to answer my remark : " What is disgusting, Venus or Mercury being in

5th, 6th, 8th, 9th houses from Sun as some wrongheaded editors of BPHS are

publishing, or my efforts to expose such interpolations in BPHS ?? "

It is not me but you who are reducing a discussion on BPHS to the level of

personal Ego. Why it is important for you to discuss my persona??

You expelled me from your own forum without even informing me , and now you are

asking me to keep away from internet. Is internet your Jagir? If I am in the

wrong, TIME will decide it.

If some editors of BPHS are publishing " Mercury being in 5th, 6th, 8th, 9th

houses from Sun " , you should be angry with them, but the opposite is happening.

I put forth the idea of a new edition of BPHS comprising of all existing

variants. What was wrong with this idea which prompted you to ask me to leave

jyotisha and internet??

You do not know the meaning of 'Vinay'. It does not mean Vinamrataa, as some

schoolteachers wrongly teach. It is made up of vi+naya, the latter from the root

NEE (to lead). Same is the meaning of Vinaayaka. Vinaayaka and Vinay do not

need votes.

Sir, I think if you refrain from diverting the thread to personal remarks,

everything will be OK. If you hate to discuss astrology with me, please keep

away from threads started by me or for me (it is not my wish).

-VJ

============================= ==

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> Haha! Couldn't stay away, eh?

>

> Another promise made publicly and broken within seconds?

>

> I think you think too much about " I " and once that dissolves away completely,

you will begin to truly live up to the name and promise that your parents or

whosoever gave you your beautiful name wished upon you!

>

> You may find it strange but when you really live up to your name, Vinay, I

will shed a happy tear!

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> >

> > What is disgusting, " Venus or Mercury being in 5th, 6th, 8th, 9th

> > houses from Sun " as some wrongheaded editors of BPHS are publishing, or my

efforts to expose such interpolations in BPHS ??

> >

> > I think it is my presence in internet which is disgusting.

> >

> > -VJ

> > =========================== ==

> > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Disgusting!

> > >

> > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Rohini Da,

> > > >

> > > > Here is my answer there which you neglected to post here :

> > > >

> > > > " I approve your prediction, Da. I myself made this prediction, but not

in my name, in a message to PVR recently. Those who have too much SANTOSH will

be confounded with confusion concerning their ill-founded SANTOSH. Refusal to

discuss confusions is not SANTOSH. SANTOSH, in Jyotish, is based on true

findings and not on blind support to wrong ideas.

> > > >

> > > > TRUTH cannot be established in Kaliyuga, excepting for a few who value

Truth. I have no desire to change others. My sole aim is to LEAVE my works for

posterity. TIME will decide who is in the right.

> > > >

> > > > Those who lack SANTOSH should not preach it to others. "

> > > >

> > > > You must have read portions of BPHS cited in my mails which are WRONG

(eg, AD of Mercury and Venus in Sun's MD, Venus or Mercury being in 5th, 6th,

8th, 9th houses from Sun, which is impossible). If you have SANTOSH with such

interpolated verses, let me remain a confused persons intent upon confusing

others.

> > > >

> > > > -VJ

> > > > ============================ ===

> > > >

> > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > And since you (Mr. " Vinay Jha " ) chose to X-post here with

modifications (the bane that has plagued Jyotish and particularly BPHS, i.e.,

modifications!), this is what I posted on VA forum

> > > > >

> > > > > |||||||||||||||||||||||||

> > > > > 119158 in VA forum

> > > > > " Here is a prediction I will make publicly!

> > > > >

> > > > > " You will simply continue to create more confusion in Jyotish in the

near future (10 years...!)! "

> > > > >

> > > > > Of course you can prove me wrong just by snapping your magical fingers

-- readily! Please do so, we await with baited breath!!

> > > > > "

> > > > >

> > > > > RR_,

> > > > >

> > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Prediction Mr. " Vinay Jha " , not prophesy!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Predictions are nudges that free-will can change!

> > > > > > Prophecies are more atal!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > YOU have in your power to change my prediction and prove me wrong!

Just as I stated on the forum where I posted earlier!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Unless you are one of those weak ones that insist on shooting the

messanger just because it is possible! ;-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@>

wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RR Ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It is not the first time you have used feline barking instead of

canine. I knew the meaning. It was your ten year prophesy which prompted me to

change the bark.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > > =========================== ======

> > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Haha!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Barking up a tree is not a canine reference, " Vinay Jha " jee (I

use the quotation marks because a doubt as to nomenclature has been introduced

by a senior and obviously scholarly jyotishi on this forum) but a Feline one!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Not a dog barking (using sound or akaasha or jupiter) but a cat

(big or small) who uses Her tactile sense and abilities to climb up a tree

utilizing the BARK!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > On internet fora like these, it is difficult to use the sound or

touch naturally, but some of us seem to be capable of doing just that! Getting

someone's ear and even touching someone!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Amazing, isn't it? This worldly REALITY where PRODIGAL SONS keep

returning back to -- helplessly? ;-)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mr RR Ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I know where to " bark " , and I am doing that. I am not

returning the compliment. I have no desire to bark at you.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I think civility is one of the requirements for public

discourse, which some professional astrologers lack. Those who do not want to

test my free software should forget me, at least for ten years (according to

you) after which it will be clear who is really confused.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > People contented with erroneous views must be confused with

ideas not taught to them by their wrong-headed gurus. The first line of

sandhyaa-vandana is " Rta and Sat is generated by Tapa " . Those who hate Tapa and

Tapasvis can never access or even respect true Jyotisha. All bookish knowledge

of such professionals goes in vain. They know they are not predicting perfectly,

but they cannot accept it publicly. How can they admit all the horoscopes made

by them were wrong ???

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > > > > ======================== ============

> > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear " Vinay Jha " jee,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > You are barking up the wrong tree, just as you tried to do

on VA forum!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > My public prediction about your role in jyotish stands for

the next ten years! As posted in that forum!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > , " VJha "

<vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > <<<<<

> > > > > > > > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was

one of those rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck

the jyotish forum, if we were paying attention!

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, instead of discussing the thread, the topic

was diverted to sabre-rattling. I refrained from adding any positive content

because no one was serious.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > KCD is among least explored topics of Jyotisha and needs

more attention than we give.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > > > > > > ========================== ===

> > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was

one of those rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck

the jyotish forum, if we were paying attention! ;-)

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > THOR is the Greek name for Jupiter and from time to time

he strikes from the Mount Olympia where He lives and rules from!

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > So when thunder-bolts arrive, pay attention to those and

let those emanate from wherever your jupiter is placed in! That is -- if you are

the type that is overly obsessed with your personal horoscope, as most seem to

be! Tut tut!!

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > And accordingly, the other planets (lights, bodies and

shadows!) as well according to their rather clearly laid out mandates in jyotish

scriptures!

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > While avoiding the 'fitnaas' that show up in holy garbs!

Look what Christianity and Vatican is going through in this very time of current

transits!

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Obama's medical bill passed! USA is on to a new height

of democracy!

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 28, 2010

I hope i dont have to read too much into these CAPITALISATIONS.

Reagrds

SANT(H)OSH

Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

" VJha " <vinayjhaa16

Sun, 28 Mar 2010 08:00:32

Re: Kaala-chakra Dashaa : Scheme and Sub-periods

Rohini Da,

Here is my answer there which you neglected to post here :

" I approve your prediction, Da. I myself made this prediction, but not in my

name, in a message to PVR recently. Those who have too much SANTOSH will be

confounded with confusion concerning their ill-founded SANTOSH. Refusal to

discuss confusions is not SANTOSH. SANTOSH, in Jyotish, is based on true

findings and not on blind support to wrong ideas.

TRUTH cannot be established in Kaliyuga, excepting for a few who value Truth. I

have no desire to change others. My sole aim is to LEAVE my works for posterity.

TIME will decide who is in the right.

Those who lack SANTOSH should not preach it to others. "

You must have read portions of BPHS cited in my mails which are WRONG (eg, AD of

Mercury and Venus in Sun's MD, Venus or Mercury being in 5th, 6th, 8th, 9th

houses from Sun, which is impossible). If you have SANTOSH with such

interpolated verses, let me remain a confused persons intent upon confusing

others.

-VJ

============================ ===

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> And since you (Mr. " Vinay Jha " ) chose to X-post here with modifications (the

bane that has plagued Jyotish and particularly BPHS, i.e., modifications!), this

is what I posted on VA forum

>

> |||||||||||||||||||||||||

> 119158 in VA forum

> " Here is a prediction I will make publicly!

>

> " You will simply continue to create more confusion in Jyotish in the near

future (10 years...!)! "

>

> Of course you can prove me wrong just by snapping your magical fingers --

readily! Please do so, we await with baited breath!!

> "

>

> RR_,

>

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> >

> > Prediction Mr. " Vinay Jha " , not prophesy!

> >

> > Predictions are nudges that free-will can change!

> > Prophecies are more atal!

> >

> > YOU have in your power to change my prediction and prove me wrong! Just as I

stated on the forum where I posted earlier!

> >

> > Unless you are one of those weak ones that insist on shooting the messanger

just because it is possible! ;-)

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > >

> > > RR Ji,

> > >

> > > It is not the first time you have used feline barking instead of canine. I

knew the meaning. It was your ten year prophesy which prompted me to change the

bark.

> > >

> > > -VJ

> > > =========================== ======

> > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Haha!

> > > >

> > > > Barking up a tree is not a canine reference, " Vinay Jha " jee (I use the

quotation marks because a doubt as to nomenclature has been introduced by a

senior and obviously scholarly jyotishi on this forum) but a Feline one!

> > > >

> > > > Not a dog barking (using sound or akaasha or jupiter) but a cat (big or

small) who uses Her tactile sense and abilities to climb up a tree utilizing the

BARK!

> > > >

> > > > On internet fora like these, it is difficult to use the sound or touch

naturally, but some of us seem to be capable of doing just that! Getting

someone's ear and even touching someone!

> > > >

> > > > Amazing, isn't it? This worldly REALITY where PRODIGAL SONS keep

returning back to -- helplessly? ;-)

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Mr RR Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I know where to " bark " , and I am doing that. I am not returning the

compliment. I have no desire to bark at you.

> > > > >

> > > > > I think civility is one of the requirements for public discourse,

which some professional astrologers lack. Those who do not want to test my free

software should forget me, at least for ten years (according to you) after which

it will be clear who is really confused.

> > > > >

> > > > > People contented with erroneous views must be confused with ideas not

taught to them by their wrong-headed gurus. The first line of sandhyaa-vandana

is " Rta and Sat is generated by Tapa " . Those who hate Tapa and Tapasvis can

never access or even respect true Jyotisha. All bookish knowledge of such

professionals goes in vain. They know they are not predicting perfectly, but

they cannot accept it publicly. How can they admit all the horoscopes made by

them were wrong ???

> > > > >

> > > > > -VJ

> > > > > ======================== ============

> > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear " Vinay Jha " jee,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You are barking up the wrong tree, just as you tried to do on VA

forum!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My public prediction about your role in jyotish stands for the next

ten years! As posted in that forum!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@>

wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <<<<<

> > > > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was one of

those rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck the

jyotish forum, if we were paying attention!

> > > > > > > >>>>>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Unfortunately, instead of discussing the thread, the topic was

diverted to sabre-rattling. I refrained from adding any positive content because

no one was serious.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > KCD is among least explored topics of Jyotisha and needs more

attention than we give.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > > ========================== ===

> > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was one of

those rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck the

jyotish forum, if we were paying attention! ;-)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > THOR is the Greek name for Jupiter and from time to time he

strikes from the Mount Olympia where He lives and rules from!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So when thunder-bolts arrive, pay attention to those and let

those emanate from wherever your jupiter is placed in! That is -- if you are the

type that is overly obsessed with your personal horoscope, as most seem to be!

Tut tut!!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > And accordingly, the other planets (lights, bodies and shadows!)

as well according to their rather clearly laid out mandates in jyotish

scriptures!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > While avoiding the 'fitnaas' that show up in holy garbs! Look

what Christianity and Vatican is going through in this very time of current

transits!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Obama's medical bill passed! USA is on to a new height of

democracy!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 28, 2010

Dear Mr. Vinay,

If I run into this kind of situation that you obviously have and which caused

you such great anguish -- I will move on to the next sloka!

We normal worldly people who live in the real world have developed a useful

strategy! It is called parking! We manage to park or defer certain thing without

ending up pulling our hair or of the person standing next to us! We learn to put

things on back burners without going into a tizzy or stroke and move on with

life and then return to the 'guththie' later on when we have the time and

patience to tackle it.

In worldly/grihastha REALITY, it is called REPRIORITISATION!

Living in the WORLDLY REALITY has its benefits! Everyone MUST try it at least

once! Good for spiritual practice!!

Rohiniranjan

, " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

>

> Mr Rohiniranjan,

>

> You refused to answer my remark : " What is disgusting, Venus or Mercury being

in 5th, 6th, 8th, 9th houses from Sun as some wrongheaded editors of BPHS are

publishing, or my efforts to expose such interpolations in BPHS ?? "

>

> It is not me but you who are reducing a discussion on BPHS to the level of

personal Ego. Why it is important for you to discuss my persona??

>

> You expelled me from your own forum without even informing me , and now you

are asking me to keep away from internet. Is internet your Jagir? If I am in the

wrong, TIME will decide it.

>

> If some editors of BPHS are publishing " Mercury being in 5th, 6th, 8th, 9th

houses from Sun " , you should be angry with them, but the opposite is happening.

I put forth the idea of a new edition of BPHS comprising of all existing

variants. What was wrong with this idea which prompted you to ask me to leave

jyotisha and internet??

>

> You do not know the meaning of 'Vinay'. It does not mean Vinamrataa, as some

schoolteachers wrongly teach. It is made up of vi+naya, the latter from the root

NEE (to lead). Same is the meaning of Vinaayaka. Vinaayaka and Vinay do not

need votes.

>

> Sir, I think if you refrain from diverting the thread to personal remarks,

everything will be OK. If you hate to discuss astrology with me, please keep

away from threads started by me or for me (it is not my wish).

>

> -VJ

> ============================= ==

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> >

> > Haha! Couldn't stay away, eh?

> >

> > Another promise made publicly and broken within seconds?

> >

> > I think you think too much about " I " and once that dissolves away

completely, you will begin to truly live up to the name and promise that your

parents or whosoever gave you your beautiful name wished upon you!

> >

> > You may find it strange but when you really live up to your name, Vinay, I

will shed a happy tear!

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > >

> > > What is disgusting, " Venus or Mercury being in 5th, 6th, 8th, 9th

> > > houses from Sun " as some wrongheaded editors of BPHS are publishing, or

my efforts to expose such interpolations in BPHS ??

> > >

> > > I think it is my presence in internet which is disgusting.

> > >

> > > -VJ

> > > =========================== ==

> > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Disgusting!

> > > >

> > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohini Da,

> > > > >

> > > > > Here is my answer there which you neglected to post here :

> > > > >

> > > > > " I approve your prediction, Da. I myself made this prediction, but not

in my name, in a message to PVR recently. Those who have too much SANTOSH will

be confounded with confusion concerning their ill-founded SANTOSH. Refusal to

discuss confusions is not SANTOSH. SANTOSH, in Jyotish, is based on true

findings and not on blind support to wrong ideas.

> > > > >

> > > > > TRUTH cannot be established in Kaliyuga, excepting for a few who value

Truth. I have no desire to change others. My sole aim is to LEAVE my works for

posterity. TIME will decide who is in the right.

> > > > >

> > > > > Those who lack SANTOSH should not preach it to others. "

> > > > >

> > > > > You must have read portions of BPHS cited in my mails which are WRONG

(eg, AD of Mercury and Venus in Sun's MD, Venus or Mercury being in 5th, 6th,

8th, 9th houses from Sun, which is impossible). If you have SANTOSH with such

interpolated verses, let me remain a confused persons intent upon confusing

others.

> > > > >

> > > > > -VJ

> > > > > ============================ ===

> > > > >

> > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > And since you (Mr. " Vinay Jha " ) chose to X-post here with

modifications (the bane that has plagued Jyotish and particularly BPHS, i.e.,

modifications!), this is what I posted on VA forum

> > > > > >

> > > > > > |||||||||||||||||||||||||

> > > > > > 119158 in VA forum

> > > > > > " Here is a prediction I will make publicly!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " You will simply continue to create more confusion in Jyotish in the

near future (10 years...!)! "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Of course you can prove me wrong just by snapping your magical

fingers -- readily! Please do so, we await with baited breath!!

> > > > > > "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Prediction Mr. " Vinay Jha " , not prophesy!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Predictions are nudges that free-will can change!

> > > > > > > Prophecies are more atal!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > YOU have in your power to change my prediction and prove me wrong!

Just as I stated on the forum where I posted earlier!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Unless you are one of those weak ones that insist on shooting the

messanger just because it is possible! ;-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > RR Ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It is not the first time you have used feline barking instead of

canine. I knew the meaning. It was your ten year prophesy which prompted me to

change the bark.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > > > =========================== ======

> > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Haha!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Barking up a tree is not a canine reference, " Vinay Jha " jee

(I use the quotation marks because a doubt as to nomenclature has been

introduced by a senior and obviously scholarly jyotishi on this forum) but a

Feline one!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Not a dog barking (using sound or akaasha or jupiter) but a

cat (big or small) who uses Her tactile sense and abilities to climb up a tree

utilizing the BARK!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > On internet fora like these, it is difficult to use the sound

or touch naturally, but some of us seem to be capable of doing just that!

Getting someone's ear and even touching someone!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Amazing, isn't it? This worldly REALITY where PRODIGAL SONS

keep returning back to -- helplessly? ;-)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Mr RR Ji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I know where to " bark " , and I am doing that. I am not

returning the compliment. I have no desire to bark at you.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I think civility is one of the requirements for public

discourse, which some professional astrologers lack. Those who do not want to

test my free software should forget me, at least for ten years (according to

you) after which it will be clear who is really confused.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > People contented with erroneous views must be confused with

ideas not taught to them by their wrong-headed gurus. The first line of

sandhyaa-vandana is " Rta and Sat is generated by Tapa " . Those who hate Tapa and

Tapasvis can never access or even respect true Jyotisha. All bookish knowledge

of such professionals goes in vain. They know they are not predicting perfectly,

but they cannot accept it publicly. How can they admit all the horoscopes made

by them were wrong ???

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > > > > > ======================== ============

> > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear " Vinay Jha " jee,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > You are barking up the wrong tree, just as you tried to do

on VA forum!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > My public prediction about your role in jyotish stands for

the next ten years! As posted in that forum!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > , " VJha "

<vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > <<<<<

> > > > > > > > > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was

one of those rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck

the jyotish forum, if we were paying attention!

> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, instead of discussing the thread, the

topic was diverted to sabre-rattling. I refrained from adding any positive

content because no one was serious.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > KCD is among least explored topics of Jyotisha and needs

more attention than we give.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > > > > > > > ========================== ===

> > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it

was one of those rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that

struck the jyotish forum, if we were paying attention! ;-)

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > THOR is the Greek name for Jupiter and from time to

time he strikes from the Mount Olympia where He lives and rules from!

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > So when thunder-bolts arrive, pay attention to those

and let those emanate from wherever your jupiter is placed in! That is -- if you

are the type that is overly obsessed with your personal horoscope, as most seem

to be! Tut tut!!

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > And accordingly, the other planets (lights, bodies and

shadows!) as well according to their rather clearly laid out mandates in jyotish

scriptures!

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > While avoiding the 'fitnaas' that show up in holy

garbs! Look what Christianity and Vatican is going through in this very time of

current transits!

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Obama's medical bill passed! USA is on to a new height

of democracy!

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 28, 2010

Hey buddy! Be happy with your sweet delicious jamun (blackberry!) :-)

, santhosh10 wrote:

>

> I hope i dont have to read too much into these CAPITALISATIONS.

>

> Reagrds

> SANT(H)OSH

>

> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

>

> " VJha " <vinayjhaa16

> Sun, 28 Mar 2010 08:00:32

>

> Re: Kaala-chakra Dashaa : Scheme and Sub-periods

>

> Rohini Da,

>

> Here is my answer there which you neglected to post here :

>

> " I approve your prediction, Da. I myself made this prediction, but not in my

name, in a message to PVR recently. Those who have too much SANTOSH will be

confounded with confusion concerning their ill-founded SANTOSH. Refusal to

discuss confusions is not SANTOSH. SANTOSH, in Jyotish, is based on true

findings and not on blind support to wrong ideas.

>

> TRUTH cannot be established in Kaliyuga, excepting for a few who value Truth.

I have no desire to change others. My sole aim is to LEAVE my works for

posterity. TIME will decide who is in the right.

>

> Those who lack SANTOSH should not preach it to others. "

>

> You must have read portions of BPHS cited in my mails which are WRONG (eg, AD

of Mercury and Venus in Sun's MD, Venus or Mercury being in 5th, 6th, 8th, 9th

houses from Sun, which is impossible). If you have SANTOSH with such

interpolated verses, let me remain a confused persons intent upon confusing

others.

>

> -VJ

> ============================ ===

>

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> >

> > And since you (Mr. " Vinay Jha " ) chose to X-post here with modifications (the

bane that has plagued Jyotish and particularly BPHS, i.e., modifications!), this

is what I posted on VA forum

> >

> > |||||||||||||||||||||||||

> > 119158 in VA forum

> > " Here is a prediction I will make publicly!

> >

> > " You will simply continue to create more confusion in Jyotish in the near

future (10 years...!)! "

> >

> > Of course you can prove me wrong just by snapping your magical fingers --

readily! Please do so, we await with baited breath!!

> > "

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Prediction Mr. " Vinay Jha " , not prophesy!

> > >

> > > Predictions are nudges that free-will can change!

> > > Prophecies are more atal!

> > >

> > > YOU have in your power to change my prediction and prove me wrong! Just as

I stated on the forum where I posted earlier!

> > >

> > > Unless you are one of those weak ones that insist on shooting the

messanger just because it is possible! ;-)

> > >

> > > RR_,

> > >

> > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > RR Ji,

> > > >

> > > > It is not the first time you have used feline barking instead of canine.

I knew the meaning. It was your ten year prophesy which prompted me to change

the bark.

> > > >

> > > > -VJ

> > > > =========================== ======

> > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Haha!

> > > > >

> > > > > Barking up a tree is not a canine reference, " Vinay Jha " jee (I use

the quotation marks because a doubt as to nomenclature has been introduced by a

senior and obviously scholarly jyotishi on this forum) but a Feline one!

> > > > >

> > > > > Not a dog barking (using sound or akaasha or jupiter) but a cat (big

or small) who uses Her tactile sense and abilities to climb up a tree utilizing

the BARK!

> > > > >

> > > > > On internet fora like these, it is difficult to use the sound or touch

naturally, but some of us seem to be capable of doing just that! Getting

someone's ear and even touching someone!

> > > > >

> > > > > Amazing, isn't it? This worldly REALITY where PRODIGAL SONS keep

returning back to -- helplessly? ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > >

> > > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mr RR Ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I know where to " bark " , and I am doing that. I am not returning the

compliment. I have no desire to bark at you.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I think civility is one of the requirements for public discourse,

which some professional astrologers lack. Those who do not want to test my free

software should forget me, at least for ten years (according to you) after which

it will be clear who is really confused.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > People contented with erroneous views must be confused with ideas

not taught to them by their wrong-headed gurus. The first line of

sandhyaa-vandana is " Rta and Sat is generated by Tapa " . Those who hate Tapa and

Tapasvis can never access or even respect true Jyotisha. All bookish knowledge

of such professionals goes in vain. They know they are not predicting perfectly,

but they cannot accept it publicly. How can they admit all the horoscopes made

by them were wrong ???

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > ======================== ============

> > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear " Vinay Jha " jee,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You are barking up the wrong tree, just as you tried to do on VA

forum!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My public prediction about your role in jyotish stands for the

next ten years! As posted in that forum!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > <<<<<

> > > > > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was one of

those rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck the

jyotish forum, if we were paying attention!

> > > > > > > > >>>>>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Unfortunately, instead of discussing the thread, the topic was

diverted to sabre-rattling. I refrained from adding any positive content because

no one was serious.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > KCD is among least explored topics of Jyotisha and needs more

attention than we give.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > > > ========================== ===

> > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it was one of

those rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that struck the

jyotish forum, if we were paying attention! ;-)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > THOR is the Greek name for Jupiter and from time to time he

strikes from the Mount Olympia where He lives and rules from!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > So when thunder-bolts arrive, pay attention to those and let

those emanate from wherever your jupiter is placed in! That is -- if you are the

type that is overly obsessed with your personal horoscope, as most seem to be!

Tut tut!!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > And accordingly, the other planets (lights, bodies and

shadows!) as well according to their rather clearly laid out mandates in jyotish

scriptures!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > While avoiding the 'fitnaas' that show up in holy garbs! Look

what Christianity and Vatican is going through in this very time of current

transits!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Obama's medical bill passed! USA is on to a new height of

democracy!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

>

March 28, 2010

Ashtaavakra said seniority by age is a measure among Shudras only,

Vaishyas are measured by wealth, Kshatriyas by strength and Brahmins by

wisdom (take these as Varnas based on Karma, and not as castes).

I already said that my purpose is merely to present my work for the

posterity. When and where you found me seeking approval of others? You

said I showed nothing, hence I had to show you what I showed, although I

knew you will not see it and will find excuses for not seeing it.

Internet is merely a medium, and whether it is a good or bad medium

depends on its users.

As for AGENDA, those professionals who have sole interest in fame or

money have no concern for right or wrong. Whenever I tried to discuss

any real issue of astrology, you destroyed the seriousness and now you

charge me of pushing my " I " or some " AGENDA " . Instead of discussing the

issues of astrology, you always diverted the issue to " me " , " you " , etc.

Seniority in intellectual discourse is a weapon of the weak. You will

never be able to refute what I put forth in :

http://jyotirvidya.wetpaint.com/page/Annual+Rains

You can only ignore the Truth and divert the discussion, as you are

still doing. Why you cannot forget " I " , " you " , etc, and discuss

Astrology?

-VJ

============================== ==

, " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Dear Vinay,

>

> And I use this direct approach not to insult you but simply because I

am older than you and we have travelled a bit together and you were

introduced to me by Projjwal Ghosh who was a wonderful soul!

>

> Here is my question: Why are you not convinced that your way is the

right and correct way? Why do you care or need the approval of others?

Whether they have benefics rising when they were born or cruel malefics

exalted? What does all that really matter?

>

> You accuse me of lot of things such as competition and what not! Have

you EVER seen me pushing my AGENDA on all these forums, ever? Or ANYONE

ELSE THAT IS READING THIS?

>

> You call my postings comical and comedies and indeed that is the

point! Internet is NOT a serious medium for what you are trying to

achieve! Continue on the way you are continuing on and I promise you,

you will continue to be ridiculed and not taken seriously! EVER ;-)

>

> Desh Kaal Patra!

>

> Simple?

>

> Regards,

>

> Rohini_da

>

> , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@ wrote:

> >

> > Sir,

> >

> > You have used following words for me in a recent post :

> >

> > " Too many claims and promises, SIR! DO something!! SHOW

something!!!

> > The worldly

> > reality is very rough!!!! Why else would one have fled -- going

back a

> > few years? "

> >

> > You ask me to show something, but you shut your eyes when I show

> > something. If you are really sincere and honest, which now I doubt,

why

> > you ignored the evidences I put forth (

> > http://jyotirvidya.wetpaint.com/page/Annual+Rains ) after working

day

> > and night for over two hundred hours ??

> >

> > Why you have no time for examining the evidences I showed ? Earlier,

you

> > said you will listen only aftwer the whole world listens to me,

which is

> > just impossible. Now, you are changing tracks and are wrongly

charging

> > me of not having shown anything at all !!

> >

> > Sir, whether it is Rainfall or Stock-prices or individual-charts,

the

> > methods are everywhere the same. I never used any phalita

(predictive)

> > principle which is not used by you. The difference lies in Ganita.

I

> > produced twenty charts from Kundalee and twenty from JHORA : why you

do

> > not compare the results IF YOU ARE REALLY SINCERE ?? Although

I am

> > sure you will not find time, yet I ask you to examine the following

> > because you have charged me of having shown nothing :

> >

> > http://jyotirvidya.wetpaint.com/page/Annual+Rains

> >

> > You will need hours after hours to examine, but the more time you

spend

> > on these charts, the more delighted you will be (provided you take a

> > serious reading).

> >

> > -VJ

> > =================================== ===

> >

> > , " rohinicrystal "

> > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear " Vinay Jha " jee,

> > >

> > > Whether my prediction comes true or not is not important, neither

for

> > me and certainly not for you, but someone will have to pay for the

> > umpteen hours wasted by thousands of trusting people who were simply

> > stated taken on a 'ride' to nowhere!!

> > >

> > > vedic astrology/message/119160

> > >

> > > And that includes many fine and trusting individuals!

> > >

> > > Disgusting!

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Sir, I will do the opposite : I will prove your prediction to be

> > correct. Please read my answer in VA again. You are lucky enough to

have

> > escaped my software. Otherwise, I would have " confused " you more and

> > more. Those who have SANTOSH with half-baked Truths cannot digest

full

> > Truth.

> > > >

> > > > -VJ

> > > > =========================== ===

> > > > , " rohinicrystal "

> > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Prediction Mr. " Vinay Jha " , not prophesy!

> > > > >

> > > > > Predictions are nudges that free-will can change!

> > > > > Prophecies are more atal!

> > > > >

> > > > > YOU have in your power to change my prediction and prove me

wrong!

> > Just as I stated on the forum where I posted earlier!

> > > > >

> > > > > Unless you are one of those weak ones that insist on shooting

the

> > messanger just because it is possible! ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > > RR_,

> > > > >

> > > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR Ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It is not the first time you have used feline barking

instead of

> > canine. I knew the meaning. It was your ten year prophesy which

prompted

> > me to change the bark.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > =========================== ======

> > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

> > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Haha!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Barking up a tree is not a canine reference, " Vinay Jha "

jee

> > (I use the quotation marks because a doubt as to nomenclature has

been

> > introduced by a senior and obviously scholarly jyotishi on this

forum)

> > but a Feline one!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Not a dog barking (using sound or akaasha or jupiter) but

a

> > cat (big or small) who uses Her tactile sense and abilities to climb

up

> > a tree utilizing the BARK!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On internet fora like these, it is difficult to use the

sound

> > or touch naturally, but some of us seem to be capable of doing just

> > that! Getting someone's ear and even touching someone!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Amazing, isn't it? This worldly REALITY where PRODIGAL

SONS

> > keep returning back to -- helplessly? ;-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " VJha "

<vinayjhaa16@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mr RR Ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I know where to " bark " , and I am doing that. I am not

> > returning the compliment. I have no desire to bark at you.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I think civility is one of the requirements for public

> > discourse, which some professional astrologers lack. Those who do

not

> > want to test my free software should forget me, at least for ten

years

> > (according to you) after which it will be clear who is really

confused.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > People contented with erroneous views must be confused

with

> > ideas not taught to them by their wrong-headed gurus. The first line

of

> > sandhyaa-vandana is " Rta and Sat is generated by Tapa " . Those who

hate

> > Tapa and Tapasvis can never access or even respect true Jyotisha.

All

> > bookish knowledge of such professionals goes in vain. They know they

are

> > not predicting perfectly, but they cannot accept it publicly. How

can

> > they admit all the horoscopes made by them were wrong ???

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > > > ======================== ============

> > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

> > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear " Vinay Jha " jee,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You are barking up the wrong tree, just as you tried

to do

> > on VA forum!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > My public prediction about your role in jyotish stands

for

> > the next ten years! As posted in that forum!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " VJha "

> > <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > <<<<<

> > > > > > > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it

was

> > one of those rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH

that

> > struck the jyotish forum, if we were paying attention!

> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, instead of discussing the thread, the

> > topic was diverted to sabre-rattling. I refrained from adding any

> > positive content because no one was serious.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > KCD is among least explored topics of Jyotisha and

needs

> > more attention than we give.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > > > > > ========================== ===

> > > > > > > > > > ,

" rohinicrystal "

> > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because

it

> > was one of those rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of

TRUTH

> > that struck the jyotish forum, if we were paying attention! ;-)

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > THOR is the Greek name for Jupiter and from time

to

> > time he strikes from the Mount Olympia where He lives and rules

from!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > So when thunder-bolts arrive, pay attention to

those

> > and let those emanate from wherever your jupiter is placed in! That

is

> > -- if you are the type that is overly obsessed with your personal

> > horoscope, as most seem to be! Tut tut!!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > And accordingly, the other planets (lights, bodies

and

> > shadows!) as well according to their rather clearly laid out

mandates in

> > jyotish scriptures!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > While avoiding the 'fitnaas' that show up in holy

> > garbs! Look what Christianity and Vatican is going through in this

very

> > time of current transits!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Obama's medical bill passed! USA is on to a new

height

> > of democracy!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 28, 2010

Mr RR Ji,

Having worked in Jyotisha for over three decades, for how long have you " parked "

these guththies?? And when you will have somne time to solve them? Verses which

are explicitly wrong and are absent from many other manuscripts and publications

are not interpolations for you but mere 'guththies'!!

-VJ

================= ===

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> Dear Mr. Vinay,

>

> If I run into this kind of situation that you obviously have and which caused

you such great anguish -- I will move on to the next sloka!

>

> We normal worldly people who live in the real world have developed a useful

strategy! It is called parking! We manage to park or defer certain thing without

ending up pulling our hair or of the person standing next to us! We learn to put

things on back burners without going into a tizzy or stroke and move on with

life and then return to the 'guththie' later on when we have the time and

patience to tackle it.

>

> In worldly/grihastha REALITY, it is called REPRIORITISATION!

>

> Living in the WORLDLY REALITY has its benefits! Everyone MUST try it at least

once! Good for spiritual practice!!

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> >

> > Mr Rohiniranjan,

> >

> > You refused to answer my remark : " What is disgusting, Venus or Mercury

being in 5th, 6th, 8th, 9th houses from Sun as some wrongheaded editors of BPHS

are publishing, or my efforts to expose such interpolations in BPHS ?? "

> >

> > It is not me but you who are reducing a discussion on BPHS to the level of

personal Ego. Why it is important for you to discuss my persona??

> >

> > You expelled me from your own forum without even informing me , and now you

are asking me to keep away from internet. Is internet your Jagir? If I am in the

wrong, TIME will decide it.

> >

> > If some editors of BPHS are publishing " Mercury being in 5th, 6th, 8th, 9th

houses from Sun " , you should be angry with them, but the opposite is happening.

I put forth the idea of a new edition of BPHS comprising of all existing

variants. What was wrong with this idea which prompted you to ask me to leave

jyotisha and internet??

> >

> > You do not know the meaning of 'Vinay'. It does not mean Vinamrataa, as some

schoolteachers wrongly teach. It is made up of vi+naya, the latter from the root

NEE (to lead). Same is the meaning of Vinaayaka. Vinaayaka and Vinay do not

need votes.

> >

> > Sir, I think if you refrain from diverting the thread to personal remarks,

everything will be OK. If you hate to discuss astrology with me, please keep

away from threads started by me or for me (it is not my wish).

> >

> > -VJ

> > ============================= ==

> > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Haha! Couldn't stay away, eh?

> > >

> > > Another promise made publicly and broken within seconds?

> > >

> > > I think you think too much about " I " and once that dissolves away

completely, you will begin to truly live up to the name and promise that your

parents or whosoever gave you your beautiful name wished upon you!

> > >

> > > You may find it strange but when you really live up to your name, Vinay, I

will shed a happy tear!

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > What is disgusting, " Venus or Mercury being in 5th, 6th, 8th, 9th

> > > > houses from Sun " as some wrongheaded editors of BPHS are publishing, or

my efforts to expose such interpolations in BPHS ??

> > > >

> > > > I think it is my presence in internet which is disgusting.

> > > >

> > > > -VJ

> > > > =========================== ==

> > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Disgusting!

> > > > >

> > > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rohini Da,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here is my answer there which you neglected to post here :

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " I approve your prediction, Da. I myself made this prediction, but

not in my name, in a message to PVR recently. Those who have too much SANTOSH

will be confounded with confusion concerning their ill-founded SANTOSH. Refusal

to discuss confusions is not SANTOSH. SANTOSH, in Jyotish, is based on true

findings and not on blind support to wrong ideas.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > TRUTH cannot be established in Kaliyuga, excepting for a few who

value Truth. I have no desire to change others. My sole aim is to LEAVE my works

for posterity. TIME will decide who is in the right.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Those who lack SANTOSH should not preach it to others. "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You must have read portions of BPHS cited in my mails which are

WRONG (eg, AD of Mercury and Venus in Sun's MD, Venus or Mercury being in 5th,

6th, 8th, 9th houses from Sun, which is impossible). If you have SANTOSH with

such interpolated verses, let me remain a confused persons intent upon confusing

others.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > ============================ ===

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > And since you (Mr. " Vinay Jha " ) chose to X-post here with

modifications (the bane that has plagued Jyotish and particularly BPHS, i.e.,

modifications!), this is what I posted on VA forum

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > |||||||||||||||||||||||||

> > > > > > > 119158 in VA forum

> > > > > > > " Here is a prediction I will make publicly!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " You will simply continue to create more confusion in Jyotish in

the near future (10 years...!)! "

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Of course you can prove me wrong just by snapping your magical

fingers -- readily! Please do so, we await with baited breath!!

> > > > > > > "

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Prediction Mr. " Vinay Jha " , not prophesy!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Predictions are nudges that free-will can change!

> > > > > > > > Prophecies are more atal!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > YOU have in your power to change my prediction and prove me

wrong! Just as I stated on the forum where I posted earlier!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Unless you are one of those weak ones that insist on shooting

the messanger just because it is possible! ;-)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > RR Ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > It is not the first time you have used feline barking instead

of canine. I knew the meaning. It was your ten year prophesy which prompted me

to change the bark.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > > > > =========================== ======

> > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Haha!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Barking up a tree is not a canine reference, " Vinay Jha " jee

(I use the quotation marks because a doubt as to nomenclature has been

introduced by a senior and obviously scholarly jyotishi on this forum) but a

Feline one!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Not a dog barking (using sound or akaasha or jupiter) but a

cat (big or small) who uses Her tactile sense and abilities to climb up a tree

utilizing the BARK!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > On internet fora like these, it is difficult to use the

sound or touch naturally, but some of us seem to be capable of doing just that!

Getting someone's ear and even touching someone!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Amazing, isn't it? This worldly REALITY where PRODIGAL SONS

keep returning back to -- helplessly? ;-)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > , " VJha "

<vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Mr RR Ji,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I know where to " bark " , and I am doing that. I am not

returning the compliment. I have no desire to bark at you.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I think civility is one of the requirements for public

discourse, which some professional astrologers lack. Those who do not want to

test my free software should forget me, at least for ten years (according to

you) after which it will be clear who is really confused.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > People contented with erroneous views must be confused

with ideas not taught to them by their wrong-headed gurus. The first line of

sandhyaa-vandana is " Rta and Sat is generated by Tapa " . Those who hate Tapa and

Tapasvis can never access or even respect true Jyotisha. All bookish knowledge

of such professionals goes in vain. They know they are not predicting perfectly,

but they cannot accept it publicly. How can they admit all the horoscopes made

by them were wrong ???

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > > > > > > ======================== ============

> > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear " Vinay Jha " jee,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > You are barking up the wrong tree, just as you tried to

do on VA forum!

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > My public prediction about your role in jyotish stands

for the next ten years! As posted in that forum!

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > , " VJha "

<vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > <<<<<

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it

was one of those rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that

struck the jyotish forum, if we were paying attention!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, instead of discussing the thread, the

topic was diverted to sabre-rattling. I refrained from adding any positive

content because no one was serious.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > KCD is among least explored topics of Jyotisha and

needs more attention than we give.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > > > > > > > > ========================== ===

> > > > > > > > > > > > > ,

" rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it

was one of those rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that

struck the jyotish forum, if we were paying attention! ;-)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > THOR is the Greek name for Jupiter and from time to

time he strikes from the Mount Olympia where He lives and rules from!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > So when thunder-bolts arrive, pay attention to those

and let those emanate from wherever your jupiter is placed in! That is -- if you

are the type that is overly obsessed with your personal horoscope, as most seem

to be! Tut tut!!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > And accordingly, the other planets (lights, bodies

and shadows!) as well according to their rather clearly laid out mandates in

jyotish scriptures!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > While avoiding the 'fitnaas' that show up in holy

garbs! Look what Christianity and Vatican is going through in this very time of

current transits!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Obama's medical bill passed! USA is on to a new

height of democracy!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 28, 2010

Shri Rohiniranjan Jee,

If BPHS contains some spurious interpolation and if there are variants of BPHS

which lack those spurious verses, and if you have no time to resolve such

issues, why it is so " disgusting " to you if someone wants to work on issues

you have long " parked off " ??

Mercury in 6th or 8th house from Sun is not a puzzle ( " gutthie " ) as you say, but

an error. And a sage like Parashara could not have made such an obvious mistake.

Such verses are not gutthies but interpolations. You are not a novice in

jyotisha to be told such things. The reason is that these observations came from

a " disgusting " person and therefore these observations must be disgusting and

must be parked off together with that person.

-VJ

======================================== ====

, " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

>

> Mr RR Ji,

>

> Having worked in Jyotisha for over three decades, for how long have you

" parked " these guththies?? And when you will have somne time to solve them?

Verses which are explicitly wrong and are absent from many other manuscripts and

publications are not interpolations for you but mere 'guththies'!!

>

> -VJ

> ================= ===

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mr. Vinay,

> >

> > If I run into this kind of situation that you obviously have and which

caused you such great anguish -- I will move on to the next sloka!

> >

> > We normal worldly people who live in the real world have developed a useful

strategy! It is called parking! We manage to park or defer certain thing without

ending up pulling our hair or of the person standing next to us! We learn to put

things on back burners without going into a tizzy or stroke and move on with

life and then return to the 'guththie' later on when we have the time and

patience to tackle it.

> >

> > In worldly/grihastha REALITY, it is called REPRIORITISATION!

> >

> > Living in the WORLDLY REALITY has its benefits! Everyone MUST try it at

least once! Good for spiritual practice!!

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Mr Rohiniranjan,

> > >

> > > You refused to answer my remark : " What is disgusting, Venus or Mercury

being in 5th, 6th, 8th, 9th houses from Sun as some wrongheaded editors of BPHS

are publishing, or my efforts to expose such interpolations in BPHS ?? "

> > >

> > > It is not me but you who are reducing a discussion on BPHS to the level of

personal Ego. Why it is important for you to discuss my persona??

> > >

> > > You expelled me from your own forum without even informing me , and now

you are asking me to keep away from internet. Is internet your Jagir? If I am in

the wrong, TIME will decide it.

> > >

> > > If some editors of BPHS are publishing " Mercury being in 5th, 6th, 8th,

9th houses from Sun " , you should be angry with them, but the opposite is

happening. I put forth the idea of a new edition of BPHS comprising of all

existing variants. What was wrong with this idea which prompted you to ask me to

leave jyotisha and internet??

> > >

> > > You do not know the meaning of 'Vinay'. It does not mean Vinamrataa, as

some schoolteachers wrongly teach. It is made up of vi+naya, the latter from the

root NEE (to lead). Same is the meaning of Vinaayaka. Vinaayaka and Vinay do

not need votes.

> > >

> > > Sir, I think if you refrain from diverting the thread to personal remarks,

everything will be OK. If you hate to discuss astrology with me, please keep

away from threads started by me or for me (it is not my wish).

> > >

> > > -VJ

> > > ============================= ==

> > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Haha! Couldn't stay away, eh?

> > > >

> > > > Another promise made publicly and broken within seconds?

> > > >

> > > > I think you think too much about " I " and once that dissolves away

completely, you will begin to truly live up to the name and promise that your

parents or whosoever gave you your beautiful name wished upon you!

> > > >

> > > > You may find it strange but when you really live up to your name, Vinay,

I will shed a happy tear!

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > What is disgusting, " Venus or Mercury being in 5th, 6th, 8th, 9th

> > > > > houses from Sun " as some wrongheaded editors of BPHS are publishing,

or my efforts to expose such interpolations in BPHS ??

> > > > >

> > > > > I think it is my presence in internet which is disgusting.

> > > > >

> > > > > -VJ

> > > > > =========================== ==

> > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Disgusting!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@>

wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rohini Da,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Here is my answer there which you neglected to post here :

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " I approve your prediction, Da. I myself made this prediction, but

not in my name, in a message to PVR recently. Those who have too much SANTOSH

will be confounded with confusion concerning their ill-founded SANTOSH. Refusal

to discuss confusions is not SANTOSH. SANTOSH, in Jyotish, is based on true

findings and not on blind support to wrong ideas.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > TRUTH cannot be established in Kaliyuga, excepting for a few who

value Truth. I have no desire to change others. My sole aim is to LEAVE my works

for posterity. TIME will decide who is in the right.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Those who lack SANTOSH should not preach it to others. "

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You must have read portions of BPHS cited in my mails which are

WRONG (eg, AD of Mercury and Venus in Sun's MD, Venus or Mercury being in 5th,

6th, 8th, 9th houses from Sun, which is impossible). If you have SANTOSH with

such interpolated verses, let me remain a confused persons intent upon confusing

others.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > > ============================ ===

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > And since you (Mr. " Vinay Jha " ) chose to X-post here with

modifications (the bane that has plagued Jyotish and particularly BPHS, i.e.,

modifications!), this is what I posted on VA forum

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > |||||||||||||||||||||||||

> > > > > > > > 119158 in VA forum

> > > > > > > > " Here is a prediction I will make publicly!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > " You will simply continue to create more confusion in Jyotish in

the near future (10 years...!)! "

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Of course you can prove me wrong just by snapping your magical

fingers -- readily! Please do so, we await with baited breath!!

> > > > > > > > "

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Prediction Mr. " Vinay Jha " , not prophesy!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Predictions are nudges that free-will can change!

> > > > > > > > > Prophecies are more atal!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > YOU have in your power to change my prediction and prove me

wrong! Just as I stated on the forum where I posted earlier!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Unless you are one of those weak ones that insist on shooting

the messanger just because it is possible! ;-)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > RR Ji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > It is not the first time you have used feline barking

instead of canine. I knew the meaning. It was your ten year prophesy which

prompted me to change the bark.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > > > > > =========================== ======

> > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Haha!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Barking up a tree is not a canine reference, " Vinay Jha "

jee (I use the quotation marks because a doubt as to nomenclature has been

introduced by a senior and obviously scholarly jyotishi on this forum) but a

Feline one!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Not a dog barking (using sound or akaasha or jupiter) but

a cat (big or small) who uses Her tactile sense and abilities to climb up a tree

utilizing the BARK!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > On internet fora like these, it is difficult to use the

sound or touch naturally, but some of us seem to be capable of doing just that!

Getting someone's ear and even touching someone!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Amazing, isn't it? This worldly REALITY where PRODIGAL

SONS keep returning back to -- helplessly? ;-)

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > , " VJha "

<vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Mr RR Ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I know where to " bark " , and I am doing that. I am not

returning the compliment. I have no desire to bark at you.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I think civility is one of the requirements for public

discourse, which some professional astrologers lack. Those who do not want to

test my free software should forget me, at least for ten years (according to

you) after which it will be clear who is really confused.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > People contented with erroneous views must be confused

with ideas not taught to them by their wrong-headed gurus. The first line of

sandhyaa-vandana is " Rta and Sat is generated by Tapa " . Those who hate Tapa and

Tapasvis can never access or even respect true Jyotisha. All bookish knowledge

of such professionals goes in vain. They know they are not predicting perfectly,

but they cannot accept it publicly. How can they admit all the horoscopes made

by them were wrong ???

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > > > > > > > ======================== ============

> > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear " Vinay Jha " jee,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > You are barking up the wrong tree, just as you tried

to do on VA forum!

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > My public prediction about your role in jyotish stands

for the next ten years! As posted in that forum!

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > , " VJha "

<vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <<<<<

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because it

was one of those rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that

struck the jyotish forum, if we were paying attention!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, instead of discussing the thread, the

topic was diverted to sabre-rattling. I refrained from adding any positive

content because no one was serious.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > KCD is among least explored topics of Jyotisha and

needs more attention than we give.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========================== ===

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ,

" rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am leaving untouched the thread-header because

it was one of those rare and rather brilliant bolts of lightning of TRUTH that

struck the jyotish forum, if we were paying attention! ;-)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > THOR is the Greek name for Jupiter and from time

to time he strikes from the Mount Olympia where He lives and rules from!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So when thunder-bolts arrive, pay attention to

those and let those emanate from wherever your jupiter is placed in! That is --

if you are the type that is overly obsessed with your personal horoscope, as

most seem to be! Tut tut!!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And accordingly, the other planets (lights, bodies

and shadows!) as well according to their rather clearly laid out mandates in

jyotish scriptures!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While avoiding the 'fitnaas' that show up in holy

garbs! Look what Christianity and Vatican is going through in this very time of

current transits!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Obama's medical bill passed! USA is on to a new

height of democracy!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

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