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Why do you think it is a 'theory' and not reality? History of Mankind :-) ?

 

RR

 

, " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote:

>

>

> It is said in the scripitures that BRAHMA created this universe with his

sankalap (mind/thoughts)! At the beginning of the process of creation Brahma

created 11 Prajapatis who are believed to be the fathers of the human race..He

also created the 7 sages/ Saptarishi(7 heavenly bodies) to help him create the

universe. However since all these sons of his were born out of his mind rather

than body, they are called Manas Putras/mind-sons/spirits..Brahma is also said

to be son of the Supreme Being, Brahman, and the female energy known as Prakrti

or Maya(By the way all this information is on Wikipedia)..

>

> I found a beautiful song called " Unwritten " that ties up well with this whole

BRAHMA's creation theory..It just got me thinking that if Brahma can create his

universe from his mind/thoughts; maybe we also have a chance to create our own

destiny!!

>

> " Unwritten "

>

> I am unwritten, can't read my mind, I'm undefined

> I'm just beginning, the pen's in my hand, ending unplanned

> Staring at the blank page before you

> Open up the dirty window

> Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> Reaching for something in the distance

> So close you can almost taste it

> Release your inhibitions

> Feel the rain on your skin

> No one else can feel it for you

> Only you can let it in

> No one else, no one else

> Can speak the words on your lips

> Drench yourself in words unspoken

> Live your life with arms wide open

> Today is where your book begins

> The rest is still unwritten

> I break tradition, sometimes my tries, are outside the lines

> We've been conditioned to not make mistakes, but I can't live that way

> Staring at the blank page before you

> Open up the dirty window

> Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> Reaching for something in the distance

> So close you can almost taste it

> Release your inhibitions

> Feel the rain on your skin

> No one else can feel it for you

> Only you can let it in

> No one else, no one else

> Can speak the words on your lips

> Drench yourself in words unspoken

> Live your life with arms wide open

> Today is where your book begins

>

> Feel the rain on your skin

> No one else can feel it for you

> Only you can let it in

> No one else, no one else

> Can speak the words on your lips

> Drench yourself in words unspoken

> Live your life with arms wide open

> Today is where your book begins

> The rest is still unwritten

>

> Staring at the blank page before you

> Open up the dirty window

> Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

>

> Reaching for something in the distance

> So close you can almost taste it

> Release your inhibitions

> Feel the rain on your skin

> No one else can feel it for you

> Only you can let it in

> No one else, no one else

> Can speak the words on your lips

> Drench yourself in words unspoken

> Live your life with arms wide open

> Today is where your book begins

>

> Feel the rain on your skin

> No one else can feel it for you

> Only you can let it in

> No one else, no one else

> Can speak the words on your lips

> Drench yourself in words unspoken

> Live your life with arms wide open

> Today is where your book begins

> The rest is still unwritten

>

> Lilly

>

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Theories are made my mankind, and " reality " - that I am not sure about, PAPA

Ji!!Books, and scriptures were also written by MEN even if it was 1000's of

years ago..Everything is still a blur to me.

 

Lilly

 

 

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> Why do you think it is a 'theory' and not reality? History of Mankind :-) ?

>

> RR

>

> , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > It is said in the scripitures that BRAHMA created this universe with his

sankalap (mind/thoughts)! At the beginning of the process of creation Brahma

created 11 Prajapatis who are believed to be the fathers of the human race..He

also created the 7 sages/ Saptarishi(7 heavenly bodies) to help him create the

universe. However since all these sons of his were born out of his mind rather

than body, they are called Manas Putras/mind-sons/spirits..Brahma is also said

to be son of the Supreme Being, Brahman, and the female energy known as Prakrti

or Maya(By the way all this information is on Wikipedia)..

> >

> > I found a beautiful song called " Unwritten " that ties up well with this

whole BRAHMA's creation theory..It just got me thinking that if Brahma can

create his universe from his mind/thoughts; maybe we also have a chance to

create our own destiny!!

> >

> > " Unwritten "

> >

> > I am unwritten, can't read my mind, I'm undefined

> > I'm just beginning, the pen's in my hand, ending unplanned

> > Staring at the blank page before you

> > Open up the dirty window

> > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > Reaching for something in the distance

> > So close you can almost taste it

> > Release your inhibitions

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> > The rest is still unwritten

> > I break tradition, sometimes my tries, are outside the lines

> > We've been conditioned to not make mistakes, but I can't live that way

> > Staring at the blank page before you

> > Open up the dirty window

> > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > Reaching for something in the distance

> > So close you can almost taste it

> > Release your inhibitions

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> >

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> > The rest is still unwritten

> >

> > Staring at the blank page before you

> > Open up the dirty window

> > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> >

> > Reaching for something in the distance

> > So close you can almost taste it

> > Release your inhibitions

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> >

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> > The rest is still unwritten

> >

> > Lilly

> >

>

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Good start! Let us begin and go from there...

 

, " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote:

>

>

> Theories are made my mankind, and " reality " - that I am not sure about, PAPA

Ji!!Books, and scriptures were also written by MEN even if it was 1000's of

years ago..Everything is still a blur to me.

>

> Lilly

>

>

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> >

> > Why do you think it is a 'theory' and not reality? History of Mankind :-) ?

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > It is said in the scripitures that BRAHMA created this universe with his

sankalap (mind/thoughts)! At the beginning of the process of creation Brahma

created 11 Prajapatis who are believed to be the fathers of the human race..He

also created the 7 sages/ Saptarishi(7 heavenly bodies) to help him create the

universe. However since all these sons of his were born out of his mind rather

than body, they are called Manas Putras/mind-sons/spirits..Brahma is also said

to be son of the Supreme Being, Brahman, and the female energy known as Prakrti

or Maya(By the way all this information is on Wikipedia)..

> > >

> > > I found a beautiful song called " Unwritten " that ties up well with this

whole BRAHMA's creation theory..It just got me thinking that if Brahma can

create his universe from his mind/thoughts; maybe we also have a chance to

create our own destiny!!

> > >

> > > " Unwritten "

> > >

> > > I am unwritten, can't read my mind, I'm undefined

> > > I'm just beginning, the pen's in my hand, ending unplanned

> > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > Open up the dirty window

> > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > Release your inhibitions

> > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > Only you can let it in

> > > No one else, no one else

> > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > Today is where your book begins

> > > The rest is still unwritten

> > > I break tradition, sometimes my tries, are outside the lines

> > > We've been conditioned to not make mistakes, but I can't live that way

> > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > Open up the dirty window

> > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > Release your inhibitions

> > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > Only you can let it in

> > > No one else, no one else

> > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > Today is where your book begins

> > >

> > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > Only you can let it in

> > > No one else, no one else

> > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > Today is where your book begins

> > > The rest is still unwritten

> > >

> > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > Open up the dirty window

> > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > >

> > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > Release your inhibitions

> > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > Only you can let it in

> > > No one else, no one else

> > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > Today is where your book begins

> > >

> > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > Only you can let it in

> > > No one else, no one else

> > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > Today is where your book begins

> > > The rest is still unwritten

> > >

> > > Lilly

> > >

> >

>

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" scriptures were also written by MEN "

 

No, many WOMEN women were also Vedic rishis.

 

Theories are NOW made by mankind, but the original meaning of this term was

related to Devas > Theos. Mankind had no right to concoct theories. Theories

descended from Heavens to enlightened sages. This is not my theory, but what the

most ancient nation in the world believed since time immemorial.

 

Those who think sensorily tangible Shrishti to be Real find it hard to imagine

that an intangible thing like " Consciousness " of Brahmaa Ji can create any

sensorily tangible material entity. Why the human sensory organs must be made

the criterion of truth ? If humans cannot perceive a thing, that thing must not

exist : it is human egotism and not Reality. Matter is defined by properties

which are sensorily perceptible either directly or indirectly. Hence, matter

depends on sense organs for its very existence. If sense organs do not exist,

matter will lose any definition at all. Reality is beyond sense organs and

beyond sensorily perceived world. Reality is not the Perceived material world,

but the Perceiver, who is one and the same as the Universal Spirit but exists in

innumerable forms known as Jeevas due to bonds of desire generated by and

generating karmas. This Reality is immortal, beyond Time and Space. Its eternal

or sanatana well being is ensured by Sanatana Dharma. Its knowledge is called

Veda, whose eye is Jyotisha which makes us see fruits of past actions including

those of past lives and confirms our faith in the existence of this eternal

reality in us and induces us to act for its temporal as well as eternal well

being.

 

-VJ

======================= ==

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> Good start! Let us begin and go from there...

>

> , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Theories are made my mankind, and " reality " - that I am not sure about, PAPA

Ji!!Books, and scriptures were also written by MEN even if it was 1000's of

years ago..Everything is still a blur to me.

> >

> > Lilly

> >

> >

> > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Why do you think it is a 'theory' and not reality? History of Mankind :-)

?

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > It is said in the scripitures that BRAHMA created this universe with his

sankalap (mind/thoughts)! At the beginning of the process of creation Brahma

created 11 Prajapatis who are believed to be the fathers of the human race..He

also created the 7 sages/ Saptarishi(7 heavenly bodies) to help him create the

universe. However since all these sons of his were born out of his mind rather

than body, they are called Manas Putras/mind-sons/spirits..Brahma is also said

to be son of the Supreme Being, Brahman, and the female energy known as Prakrti

or Maya(By the way all this information is on Wikipedia)..

> > > >

> > > > I found a beautiful song called " Unwritten " that ties up well with this

whole BRAHMA's creation theory..It just got me thinking that if Brahma can

create his universe from his mind/thoughts; maybe we also have a chance to

create our own destiny!!

> > > >

> > > > " Unwritten "

> > > >

> > > > I am unwritten, can't read my mind, I'm undefined

> > > > I'm just beginning, the pen's in my hand, ending unplanned

> > > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > > Open up the dirty window

> > > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > > Release your inhibitions

> > > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > > Only you can let it in

> > > > No one else, no one else

> > > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > > Today is where your book begins

> > > > The rest is still unwritten

> > > > I break tradition, sometimes my tries, are outside the lines

> > > > We've been conditioned to not make mistakes, but I can't live that way

> > > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > > Open up the dirty window

> > > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > > Release your inhibitions

> > > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > > Only you can let it in

> > > > No one else, no one else

> > > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > > Today is where your book begins

> > > >

> > > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > > Only you can let it in

> > > > No one else, no one else

> > > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > > Today is where your book begins

> > > > The rest is still unwritten

> > > >

> > > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > > Open up the dirty window

> > > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > > >

> > > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > > Release your inhibitions

> > > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > > Only you can let it in

> > > > No one else, no one else

> > > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > > Today is where your book begins

> > > >

> > > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > > Only you can let it in

> > > > No one else, no one else

> > > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > > Today is where your book begins

> > > > The rest is still unwritten

> > > >

> > > > Lilly

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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" A thought held in your imagination, with focus and concentration,

backed by the force of your will and desire will become imprinted deeply

on your sub-conscious mind and take form on the astral level. With

repeated visualizations it will gather energy and power till it

eventually manifests itself as a physical reality. "

 

Best wishes,

Amitabh Shastri

 

On 1/21/2010 4:11 PM, Lilly wrote:

>

>

> It is said in the scripitures that BRAHMA created this universe with

> his sankalap (mind/thoughts)! At the beginning of the process of

> creation Brahma created 11 Prajapatis who are believed to be the

> fathers of the human race..He also created the 7 sages/ Saptarishi(7

> heavenly bodies) to help him create the universe. However since all

> these sons of his were born out of his mind rather than body, they are

> called Manas Putras/mind-sons/spirits..Brahma is also said to be son

> of the Supreme Being, Brahman, and the female energy known as Prakrti

> or Maya(By the way all this information is on Wikipedia)..

>

> I found a beautiful song called " Unwritten " that ties up well with

> this whole BRAHMA's creation theory..It just got me thinking that if

> Brahma can create his universe from his mind/thoughts; maybe we also

> have a chance to create our own destiny!!

>

> " Unwritten "

>

> I am unwritten, can't read my mind, I'm undefined

> I'm just beginning, the pen's in my hand, ending unplanned

> Staring at the blank page before you

> Open up the dirty window

> Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> Reaching for something in the distance

> So close you can almost taste it

> Release your inhibitions

> Feel the rain on your skin

> No one else can feel it for you

> Only you can let it in

> No one else, no one else

> Can speak the words on your lips

> Drench yourself in words unspoken

> Live your life with arms wide open

> Today is where your book begins

> The rest is still unwritten

> I break tradition, sometimes my tries, are outside the lines

> We've been conditioned to not make mistakes, but I can't live that way

> Staring at the blank page before you

> Open up the dirty window

> Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> Reaching for something in the distance

> So close you can almost taste it

> Release your inhibitions

> Feel the rain on your skin

> No one else can feel it for you

> Only you can let it in

> No one else, no one else

> Can speak the words on your lips

> Drench yourself in words unspoken

> Live your life with arms wide open

> Today is where your book begins

>

> Feel the rain on your skin

> No one else can feel it for you

> Only you can let it in

> No one else, no one else

> Can speak the words on your lips

> Drench yourself in words unspoken

> Live your life with arms wide open

> Today is where your book begins

> The rest is still unwritten

>

> Staring at the blank page before you

> Open up the dirty window

> Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

>

> Reaching for something in the distance

> So close you can almost taste it

> Release your inhibitions

> Feel the rain on your skin

> No one else can feel it for you

> Only you can let it in

> No one else, no one else

> Can speak the words on your lips

> Drench yourself in words unspoken

> Live your life with arms wide open

> Today is where your book begins

>

> Feel the rain on your skin

> No one else can feel it for you

> Only you can let it in

> No one else, no one else

> Can speak the words on your lips

> Drench yourself in words unspoken

> Live your life with arms wide open

> Today is where your book begins

> The rest is still unwritten

>

> Lilly

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Dear Shri Shastri Ji

Infact you have given life to the thread.Infact a philosophical issue when

considered as relevant to astral level,it changes the out look. and meaning of

this topic.Kudos Sir,

This is exactly we find find free will to operate.The Astral level implications

making headaway through Lagna,pancham and navam is realisation of ambitions or

fulfilling the ideals.

That is how the story of Infosys,Reliance and Tata.Their sankalp is beyond their

faculties that made them to deram,work and realise finally.It is matter of

determination.

The creation of universe in a metaphorical sense is brahma sankalp and it

individual one can also think and make a meaningful creation to fulfil one'e

ambition

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Fri, 1/22/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri wrote:

 

 

Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri

Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

 

Cc: " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005

Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:42 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

" A thought held in your imagination, with focus and concentration,

backed by the force of your will and desire will become imprinted deeply

on your sub-conscious mind and take form on the astral level. With

repeated visualizations it will gather energy and power till it

eventually manifests itself as a physical reality. "

 

Best wishes,

Amitabh Shastri

 

On 1/21/2010 4:11 PM, Lilly wrote:

>

>

> It is said in the scripitures that BRAHMA created this universe with

> his sankalap (mind/thoughts) ! At the beginning of the process of

> creation Brahma created 11 Prajapatis who are believed to be the

> fathers of the human race..He also created the 7 sages/ Saptarishi(7

> heavenly bodies) to help him create the universe. However since all

> these sons of his were born out of his mind rather than body, they are

> called Manas Putras/mind- sons/spirits. .Brahma is also said to be son

> of the Supreme Being, Brahman, and the female energy known as Prakrti

> or Maya(By the way all this information is on Wikipedia)..

>

> I found a beautiful song called " Unwritten " that ties up well with

> this whole BRAHMA's creation theory..It just got me thinking that if

> Brahma can create his universe from his mind/thoughts; maybe we also

> have a chance to create our own destiny!!

>

> " Unwritten "

>

> I am unwritten, can't read my mind, I'm undefined

> I'm just beginning, the pen's in my hand, ending unplanned

> Staring at the blank page before you

> Open up the dirty window

> Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> Reaching for something in the distance

> So close you can almost taste it

> Release your inhibitions

> Feel the rain on your skin

> No one else can feel it for you

> Only you can let it in

> No one else, no one else

> Can speak the words on your lips

> Drench yourself in words unspoken

> Live your life with arms wide open

> Today is where your book begins

> The rest is still unwritten

> I break tradition, sometimes my tries, are outside the lines

> We've been conditioned to not make mistakes, but I can't live that way

> Staring at the blank page before you

> Open up the dirty window

> Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> Reaching for something in the distance

> So close you can almost taste it

> Release your inhibitions

> Feel the rain on your skin

> No one else can feel it for you

> Only you can let it in

> No one else, no one else

> Can speak the words on your lips

> Drench yourself in words unspoken

> Live your life with arms wide open

> Today is where your book begins

>

> Feel the rain on your skin

> No one else can feel it for you

> Only you can let it in

> No one else, no one else

> Can speak the words on your lips

> Drench yourself in words unspoken

> Live your life with arms wide open

> Today is where your book begins

> The rest is still unwritten

>

> Staring at the blank page before you

> Open up the dirty window

> Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

>

> Reaching for something in the distance

> So close you can almost taste it

> Release your inhibitions

> Feel the rain on your skin

> No one else can feel it for you

> Only you can let it in

> No one else, no one else

> Can speak the words on your lips

> Drench yourself in words unspoken

> Live your life with arms wide open

> Today is where your book begins

>

> Feel the rain on your skin

> No one else can feel it for you

> Only you can let it in

> No one else, no one else

> Can speak the words on your lips

> Drench yourself in words unspoken

> Live your life with arms wide open

> Today is where your book begins

> The rest is still unwritten

>

> Lilly

>

>

 

 

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Rightly stated as ''Every thing is Blur to mee " a true a philosophical

meaning.what really around is a blur or Maya.The realisation that v r not in the

sat is undoubtedly clear.

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Thu, 1/21/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote:

 

 

Lilly <tigresslilly2005

Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

 

Thursday, January 21, 2010, 7:35 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Theories are made my mankind, and " reality " - that I am not sure about, PAPA

Ji!!Books, and scriptures were also written by MEN even if it was 1000's of

years ago..Everything is still a blur to me.

 

Lilly

 

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ....>

wrote:

>

> Why do you think it is a 'theory' and not reality? History of Mankind :-) ?

>

> RR

>

> , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> >

> >

> > It is said in the scripitures that BRAHMA created this universe with his

sankalap (mind/thoughts) ! At the beginning of the process of creation Brahma

created 11 Prajapatis who are believed to be the fathers of the human race..He

also created the 7 sages/ Saptarishi(7 heavenly bodies) to help him create the

universe. However since all these sons of his were born out of his mind rather

than body, they are called Manas Putras/mind- sons/spirits.. .Brahma is also

said to be son of the Supreme Being, Brahman, and the female energy known as

Prakrti or Maya(By the way all this information is on Wikipedia)..

> >

> > I found a beautiful song called " Unwritten " that ties up well with this

whole BRAHMA's creation theory..It just got me thinking that if Brahma can

create his universe from his mind/thoughts; maybe we also have a chance to

create our own destiny!!

> >

> > " Unwritten "

> >

> > I am unwritten, can't read my mind, I'm undefined

> > I'm just beginning, the pen's in my hand, ending unplanned

> > Staring at the blank page before you

> > Open up the dirty window

> > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > Reaching for something in the distance

> > So close you can almost taste it

> > Release your inhibitions

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> > The rest is still unwritten

> > I break tradition, sometimes my tries, are outside the lines

> > We've been conditioned to not make mistakes, but I can't live that way

> > Staring at the blank page before you

> > Open up the dirty window

> > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > Reaching for something in the distance

> > So close you can almost taste it

> > Release your inhibitions

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> >

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> > The rest is still unwritten

> >

> > Staring at the blank page before you

> > Open up the dirty window

> > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> >

> > Reaching for something in the distance

> > So close you can almost taste it

> > Release your inhibitions

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> >

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> > The rest is still unwritten

> >

> > Lilly

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Thanks Amitabh ji!

 

Regards,

Nandini

 

, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri

wrote:

>

> " A thought held in your imagination, with focus and concentration,

> backed by the force of your will and desire will become imprinted deeply

> on your sub-conscious mind and take form on the astral level. With

> repeated visualizations it will gather energy and power till it

> eventually manifests itself as a physical reality. "

>

> Best wishes,

> Amitabh Shastri

>

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Dear Krishnanji,

 

The root for Brahma is " brih " meaning 'to grow'. A seed grows into a

tree; thoughts grow into action - fruit being the final outcome in both

cases.

 

Of course, so thin is the dividing line between free will and destiny

that it is not easy to differentiate between the two. One creates new

karma while the other is the result of previous karma.

 

Best wishes,

Amitabh Shastri

 

On 1/22/2010 12:12 AM, Vattem Krishnan wrote:

>

> Dear Shri Shastri Ji

> Infact you have given life to the thread.Infact a philosophical issue

> when considered as relevant to astral level,it changes the out look.

> and meaning of this topic.Kudos Sir,

> This is exactly we find find free will to operate. The Astral level

> implications making headaway through Lagna,pancham and navam is

> realisation of ambitions or fulfilling the ideals.

> That is how the story of Infosys,Reliance and Tata. Their sankalp is

> beyond their faculties that made them to deram,work and realise

> finally. It is matter of determination.

> The creation of universe in a metaphorical sense is brahma sankalp and

> it individual one can also think and make a meaningful creation to

> fulfil one'e ambition

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>

>

> --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri

> <amitabh_shastri%40.co.uk>> wrote:

>

> Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri

> <amitabh_shastri%40.co.uk>>

> Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

>

> <%40>

> Cc: " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005

> <tigresslilly2005%40>>

> Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:42 AM

>

>

>

> " A thought held in your imagination, with focus and concentration,

> backed by the force of your will and desire will become imprinted deeply

> on your sub-conscious mind and take form on the astral level. With

> repeated visualizations it will gather energy and power till it

> eventually manifests itself as a physical reality. "

>

> Best wishes,

> Amitabh Shastri

>

> On 1/21/2010 4:11 PM, Lilly wrote:

> >

> >

> > It is said in the scripitures that BRAHMA created this universe with

> > his sankalap (mind/thoughts) ! At the beginning of the process of

> > creation Brahma created 11 Prajapatis who are believed to be the

> > fathers of the human race..He also created the 7 sages/ Saptarishi(7

> > heavenly bodies) to help him create the universe. However since all

> > these sons of his were born out of his mind rather than body, they are

> > called Manas Putras/mind- sons/spirits. .Brahma is also said to be son

> > of the Supreme Being, Brahman, and the female energy known as Prakrti

> > or Maya(By the way all this information is on Wikipedia)..

> >

> > I found a beautiful song called " Unwritten " that ties up well with

> > this whole BRAHMA's creation theory..It just got me thinking that if

> > Brahma can create his universe from his mind/thoughts; maybe we also

> > have a chance to create our own destiny!!

> >

> > " Unwritten "

> >

> > I am unwritten, can't read my mind, I'm undefined

> > I'm just beginning, the pen's in my hand, ending unplanned

> > Staring at the blank page before you

> > Open up the dirty window

> > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > Reaching for something in the distance

> > So close you can almost taste it

> > Release your inhibitions

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> > The rest is still unwritten

> > I break tradition, sometimes my tries, are outside the lines

> > We've been conditioned to not make mistakes, but I can't live that way

> > Staring at the blank page before you

> > Open up the dirty window

> > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > Reaching for something in the distance

> > So close you can almost taste it

> > Release your inhibitions

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> >

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> > The rest is still unwritten

> >

> > Staring at the blank page before you

> > Open up the dirty window

> > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> >

> > Reaching for something in the distance

> > So close you can almost taste it

> > Release your inhibitions

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> >

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> > The rest is still unwritten

> >

> > Lilly

> >

> >

>

>

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Shsstriji,

 

Who created the seed that you talk of?

 

Fruit is not the final outcome but just the SON who just figured out what being

his father was about!

 

Perpetuum mobile!

 

There is no line that divides destiny from free-will!

 

The evanescent and nonexistant *thin* line that you describe it as is simply --

ignorance!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri

wrote:

>

> Dear Krishnanji,

>

> The root for Brahma is " brih " meaning 'to grow'. A seed grows into a

> tree; thoughts grow into action - fruit being the final outcome in both

> cases.

>

> Of course, so thin is the dividing line between free will and destiny

> that it is not easy to differentiate between the two. One creates new

> karma while the other is the result of previous karma.

>

> Best wishes,

> Amitabh Shastri

>

> On 1/22/2010 12:12 AM, Vattem Krishnan wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shri Shastri Ji

> > Infact you have given life to the thread.Infact a philosophical issue

> > when considered as relevant to astral level,it changes the out look.

> > and meaning of this topic.Kudos Sir,

> > This is exactly we find find free will to operate. The Astral level

> > implications making headaway through Lagna,pancham and navam is

> > realisation of ambitions or fulfilling the ideals.

> > That is how the story of Infosys,Reliance and Tata. Their sankalp is

> > beyond their faculties that made them to deram,work and realise

> > finally. It is matter of determination.

> > The creation of universe in a metaphorical sense is brahma sankalp and

> > it individual one can also think and make a meaningful creation to

> > fulfil one'e ambition

> >

> > Vattem Krishnan

> > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > (For all counseling services)

> > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> >

> >

> > --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri

> > <amitabh_shastri%40.co.uk>> wrote:

> >

> > Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri

> > <amitabh_shastri%40.co.uk>>

> > Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

> >

> > <%40>

> > Cc: " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005

> > <tigresslilly2005%40>>

> > Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:42 AM

> >

> >

> >

> > " A thought held in your imagination, with focus and concentration,

> > backed by the force of your will and desire will become imprinted deeply

> > on your sub-conscious mind and take form on the astral level. With

> > repeated visualizations it will gather energy and power till it

> > eventually manifests itself as a physical reality. "

> >

> > Best wishes,

> > Amitabh Shastri

> >

> > On 1/21/2010 4:11 PM, Lilly wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > It is said in the scripitures that BRAHMA created this universe with

> > > his sankalap (mind/thoughts) ! At the beginning of the process of

> > > creation Brahma created 11 Prajapatis who are believed to be the

> > > fathers of the human race..He also created the 7 sages/ Saptarishi(7

> > > heavenly bodies) to help him create the universe. However since all

> > > these sons of his were born out of his mind rather than body, they are

> > > called Manas Putras/mind- sons/spirits. .Brahma is also said to be son

> > > of the Supreme Being, Brahman, and the female energy known as Prakrti

> > > or Maya(By the way all this information is on Wikipedia)..

> > >

> > > I found a beautiful song called " Unwritten " that ties up well with

> > > this whole BRAHMA's creation theory..It just got me thinking that if

> > > Brahma can create his universe from his mind/thoughts; maybe we also

> > > have a chance to create our own destiny!!

> > >

> > > " Unwritten "

> > >

> > > I am unwritten, can't read my mind, I'm undefined

> > > I'm just beginning, the pen's in my hand, ending unplanned

> > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > Open up the dirty window

> > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > Release your inhibitions

> > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > Only you can let it in

> > > No one else, no one else

> > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > Today is where your book begins

> > > The rest is still unwritten

> > > I break tradition, sometimes my tries, are outside the lines

> > > We've been conditioned to not make mistakes, but I can't live that way

> > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > Open up the dirty window

> > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > Release your inhibitions

> > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > Only you can let it in

> > > No one else, no one else

> > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > Today is where your book begins

> > >

> > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > Only you can let it in

> > > No one else, no one else

> > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > Today is where your book begins

> > > The rest is still unwritten

> > >

> > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > Open up the dirty window

> > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > >

> > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > Release your inhibitions

> > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > Only you can let it in

> > > No one else, no one else

> > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > Today is where your book begins

> > >

> > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > Only you can let it in

> > > No one else, no one else

> > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > Today is where your book begins

> > > The rest is still unwritten

> > >

> > > Lilly

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

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Sir,

Transitional issues known through ''Yugas " have to be seen that every person

born is guided properly and the bad or evil that troubles and compels humans are

not left at the mercy of unknown/evil minds(asuras) by their hold on

Shristi.Scope for sanitisation is the perspective in different yugas so that

total protection from the Super Power is believed and trusted.

A meaningful approach that  " Aham " promotes " brih " In the 'shristi " is a Very

positive frame work.

Every ordinary person that can understand " Brahma " ''Shristi " need not be

necessarily find issues as complex.as actions'otherwise Known through Karmas

have to be performed in such a way that postive out look of shisht is

maintained.Options before him are to perform karmas with the faith in superpower

and to make an effort to reduce the burden that is carried of past karmas..

 Those bewildered with so many things around him have only to be grateful to

the God as an opportunity given to reform and develop.

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Sat, 1/23/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri wrote:

 

 

Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri

Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

 

Saturday, January 23, 2010, 3:28 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Krishnanji,

 

The root for Brahma is " brih " meaning 'to grow'. A seed grows into a

tree; thoughts grow into action - fruit being the final outcome in both

cases.

 

Of course, so thin is the dividing line between free will and destiny

that it is not easy to differentiate between the two. One creates new

karma while the other is the result of previous karma.

 

Best wishes,

Amitabh Shastri

 

On 1/22/2010 12:12 AM, Vattem Krishnan wrote:

>

> Dear Shri Shastri Ji

> Infact you have given life to the thread.Infact a philosophical issue

> when considered as relevant to astral level,it changes the out look.

> and meaning of this topic.Kudos Sir,

> This is exactly we find find free will to operate. The Astral level

> implications making headaway through Lagna,pancham and navam is

> realisation of ambitions or fulfilling the ideals.

> That is how the story of Infosys,Reliance and Tata. Their sankalp is

> beyond their faculties that made them to deram,work and realise

> finally. It is matter of determination.

> The creation of universe in a metaphorical sense is brahma sankalp and

> it individual one can also think and make a meaningful creation to

> fulfil one'e ambition

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>

>

> --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk

> <amitabh_ shastri%40. co.uk>> wrote:

>

> Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk

> <amitabh_ shastri%40. co.uk>>

> Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

>

> <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> Cc: " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@

> <tigresslill y2005%40. com>>

> Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:42 AM

>

>

>

> " A thought held in your imagination, with focus and concentration,

> backed by the force of your will and desire will become imprinted deeply

> on your sub-conscious mind and take form on the astral level. With

> repeated visualizations it will gather energy and power till it

> eventually manifests itself as a physical reality. "

>

> Best wishes,

> Amitabh Shastri

>

> On 1/21/2010 4:11 PM, Lilly wrote:

> >

> >

> > It is said in the scripitures that BRAHMA created this universe with

> > his sankalap (mind/thoughts) ! At the beginning of the process of

> > creation Brahma created 11 Prajapatis who are believed to be the

> > fathers of the human race..He also created the 7 sages/ Saptarishi(7

> > heavenly bodies) to help him create the universe. However since all

> > these sons of his were born out of his mind rather than body, they are

> > called Manas Putras/mind- sons/spirits. .Brahma is also said to be son

> > of the Supreme Being, Brahman, and the female energy known as Prakrti

> > or Maya(By the way all this information is on Wikipedia)..

> >

> > I found a beautiful song called " Unwritten " that ties up well with

> > this whole BRAHMA's creation theory..It just got me thinking that if

> > Brahma can create his universe from his mind/thoughts; maybe we also

> > have a chance to create our own destiny!!

> >

> > " Unwritten "

> >

> > I am unwritten, can't read my mind, I'm undefined

> > I'm just beginning, the pen's in my hand, ending unplanned

> > Staring at the blank page before you

> > Open up the dirty window

> > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > Reaching for something in the distance

> > So close you can almost taste it

> > Release your inhibitions

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> > The rest is still unwritten

> > I break tradition, sometimes my tries, are outside the lines

> > We've been conditioned to not make mistakes, but I can't live that way

> > Staring at the blank page before you

> > Open up the dirty window

> > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > Reaching for something in the distance

> > So close you can almost taste it

> > Release your inhibitions

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> >

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> > The rest is still unwritten

> >

> > Staring at the blank page before you

> > Open up the dirty window

> > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> >

> > Reaching for something in the distance

> > So close you can almost taste it

> > Release your inhibitions

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> >

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> > The rest is still unwritten

> >

> > Lilly

> >

> >

>

>

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Krishnan dada,

 

Why did the ANCIENTS describe FOUR yugas?

 

WHY not just THREE YUGAS that would have fallen in SYNC with our beloved trines

in Jyotish? The AAJ-KAL aur KAL? 1-5-9?

 

Bsed on the premise that the trines represent the clock while the kendras

represent the circumstances and environments!

 

Standard Jyotish that you and I delve in!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

 

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Sir,

> Transitional issues known through ''Yugas " have to be seen that every person

born is guided properly and the bad or evil that troubles and compels humans are

not left at the mercy of unknown/evil minds(asuras) by their hold on

Shristi.Scope for sanitisation is the perspective in different yugas so that

total protection from the Super Power is believed and trusted.

> A meaningful approach that  " Aham " promotes " brih " In the 'shristi " is a Very

positive frame work.

> Every ordinary person that can understand " Brahma " ''Shristi " need not be

necessarily find issues as complex.as actions'otherwise Known through Karmas

have to be performed in such a way that postive out look of shisht is

maintained.Options before him are to perform karmas with the faith in superpower

and to make an effort to reduce the burden that is carried of past karmas..

>  Those bewildered with so many things around him have only to be grateful to

the God as an opportunity given to reform and develop.

>

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>  

>

> --- On Sat, 1/23/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri wrote:

>

>

> Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri

> Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

>

> Saturday, January 23, 2010, 3:28 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Dear Krishnanji,

>

> The root for Brahma is " brih " meaning 'to grow'. A seed grows into a

> tree; thoughts grow into action - fruit being the final outcome in both

> cases.

>

> Of course, so thin is the dividing line between free will and destiny

> that it is not easy to differentiate between the two. One creates new

> karma while the other is the result of previous karma.

>

> Best wishes,

> Amitabh Shastri

>

> On 1/22/2010 12:12 AM, Vattem Krishnan wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shri Shastri Ji

> > Infact you have given life to the thread.Infact a philosophical issue

> > when considered as relevant to astral level,it changes the out look.

> > and meaning of this topic.Kudos Sir,

> > This is exactly we find find free will to operate. The Astral level

> > implications making headaway through Lagna,pancham and navam is

> > realisation of ambitions or fulfilling the ideals.

> > That is how the story of Infosys,Reliance and Tata. Their sankalp is

> > beyond their faculties that made them to deram,work and realise

> > finally. It is matter of determination.

> > The creation of universe in a metaphorical sense is brahma sankalp and

> > it individual one can also think and make a meaningful creation to

> > fulfil one'e ambition

> >

> > Vattem Krishnan

> > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > (For all counseling services)

> > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> >

> >

> > --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk

> > <amitabh_ shastri%40. co.uk>> wrote:

> >

> > Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk

> > <amitabh_ shastri%40. co.uk>>

> > Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

> >

> > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > Cc: " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@

> > <tigresslill y2005%40. com>>

> > Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:42 AM

> >

> >

> >

> > " A thought held in your imagination, with focus and concentration,

> > backed by the force of your will and desire will become imprinted deeply

> > on your sub-conscious mind and take form on the astral level. With

> > repeated visualizations it will gather energy and power till it

> > eventually manifests itself as a physical reality. "

> >

> > Best wishes,

> > Amitabh Shastri

> >

> > On 1/21/2010 4:11 PM, Lilly wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > It is said in the scripitures that BRAHMA created this universe with

> > > his sankalap (mind/thoughts) ! At the beginning of the process of

> > > creation Brahma created 11 Prajapatis who are believed to be the

> > > fathers of the human race..He also created the 7 sages/ Saptarishi(7

> > > heavenly bodies) to help him create the universe. However since all

> > > these sons of his were born out of his mind rather than body, they are

> > > called Manas Putras/mind- sons/spirits. .Brahma is also said to be son

> > > of the Supreme Being, Brahman, and the female energy known as Prakrti

> > > or Maya(By the way all this information is on Wikipedia)..

> > >

> > > I found a beautiful song called " Unwritten " that ties up well with

> > > this whole BRAHMA's creation theory..It just got me thinking that if

> > > Brahma can create his universe from his mind/thoughts; maybe we also

> > > have a chance to create our own destiny!!

> > >

> > > " Unwritten "

> > >

> > > I am unwritten, can't read my mind, I'm undefined

> > > I'm just beginning, the pen's in my hand, ending unplanned

> > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > Open up the dirty window

> > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > Release your inhibitions

> > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > Only you can let it in

> > > No one else, no one else

> > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > Today is where your book begins

> > > The rest is still unwritten

> > > I break tradition, sometimes my tries, are outside the lines

> > > We've been conditioned to not make mistakes, but I can't live that way

> > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > Open up the dirty window

> > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > Release your inhibitions

> > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > Only you can let it in

> > > No one else, no one else

> > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > Today is where your book begins

> > >

> > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > Only you can let it in

> > > No one else, no one else

> > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > Today is where your book begins

> > > The rest is still unwritten

> > >

> > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > Open up the dirty window

> > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > >

> > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > Release your inhibitions

> > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > Only you can let it in

> > > No one else, no one else

> > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > Today is where your book begins

> > >

> > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > Only you can let it in

> > > No one else, no one else

> > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > Today is where your book begins

> > > The rest is still unwritten

> > >

> > > Lilly

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

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Dear Krishnan ji,

 

can you tell me when was this first yuga running in terms of earth year?

i have a specific reason to ask this. i will get back to you after i know the

above answer either from you or anybody else in the forum.

i am asking for any proof for it. i would just like to know as per

tradition/myth or as per purana when did the first yuga begin?

 

regards

santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99

 

Sat, 23 January, 2010 3:11:16 PM

Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

 

 

Sir,

Transitional issues known through ''Yugas " have to be seen that every person

born is guided properly and the bad or evil that troubles and compels humans are

not left at the mercy of unknown/evil minds(asuras) by their hold on

Shristi.Scope for sanitisation is the perspective in different yugas so that

total protection from the Super Power is believed and trusted.

A meaningful approach that  " Aham " promotes " brih " In the 'shristi " is a Very

positive frame work.

Every ordinary person that can understand " Brahma " ''Shristi " need not be

necessarily find issues as complex.as actions'otherwise Known through Karmas

have to be performed in such a way that postive out look of shisht is

maintained.Options before him are to perform karmas with the faith in superpower

and to make an effort to reduce the burden that is carried of past karmas..

 Those bewildered with so many things around him have only to be grateful to

the God as an opportunity given to reform and develop.

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Sat, 1/23/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk> wrote:

 

Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk>

Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

 

Saturday, January 23, 2010, 3:28 AM

 

 

 

Dear Krishnanji,

 

The root for Brahma is " brih " meaning 'to grow'. A seed grows into a

tree; thoughts grow into action - fruit being the final outcome in both

cases.

 

Of course, so thin is the dividing line between free will and destiny

that it is not easy to differentiate between the two. One creates new

karma while the other is the result of previous karma.

 

Best wishes,

Amitabh Shastri

 

On 1/22/2010 12:12 AM, Vattem Krishnan wrote:

>

> Dear Shri Shastri Ji

> Infact you have given life to the thread.Infact a philosophical issue

> when considered as relevant to astral level,it changes the out look.

> and meaning of this topic.Kudos Sir,

> This is exactly we find find free will to operate. The Astral level

> implications making headaway through Lagna,pancham and navam is

> realisation of ambitions or fulfilling the ideals.

> That is how the story of Infosys,Reliance and Tata. Their sankalp is

> beyond their faculties that made them to deram,work and realise

> finally. It is matter of determination.

> The creation of universe in a metaphorical sense is brahma sankalp and

> it individual one can also think and make a meaningful creation to

> fulfil one'e ambition

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>

>

> --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk

> <amitabh_ shastri%40. co.uk>> wrote:

>

> Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk

> <amitabh_ shastri%40. co.uk>>

> Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

>

> <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> Cc: " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@

> <tigresslill y2005%40. com>>

> Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:42 AM

>

>

>

> " A thought held in your imagination, with focus and concentration,

> backed by the force of your will and desire will become imprinted deeply

> on your sub-conscious mind and take form on the astral level. With

> repeated visualizations it will gather energy and power till it

> eventually manifests itself as a physical reality. "

>

> Best wishes,

> Amitabh Shastri

>

> On 1/21/2010 4:11 PM, Lilly wrote:

> >

> >

> > It is said in the scripitures that BRAHMA created this universe with

> > his sankalap (mind/thoughts) ! At the beginning of the process of

> > creation Brahma created 11 Prajapatis who are believed to be the

> > fathers of the human race..He also created the 7 sages/ Saptarishi(7

> > heavenly bodies) to help him create the universe. However since all

> > these sons of his were born out of his mind rather than body, they are

> > called Manas Putras/mind- sons/spirits. .Brahma is also said to be son

> > of the Supreme Being, Brahman, and the female energy known as Prakrti

> > or Maya(By the way all this information is on Wikipedia)..

> >

> > I found a beautiful song called " Unwritten " that ties up well with

> > this whole BRAHMA's creation theory..It just got me thinking that if

> > Brahma can create his universe from his mind/thoughts; maybe we also

> > have a chance to create our own destiny!!

> >

> > " Unwritten "

> >

> > I am unwritten, can't read my mind, I'm undefined

> > I'm just beginning, the pen's in my hand, ending unplanned

> > Staring at the blank page before you

> > Open up the dirty window

> > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > Reaching for something in the distance

> > So close you can almost taste it

> > Release your inhibitions

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> > The rest is still unwritten

> > I break tradition, sometimes my tries, are outside the lines

> > We've been conditioned to not make mistakes, but I can't live that way

> > Staring at the blank page before you

> > Open up the dirty window

> > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > Reaching for something in the distance

> > So close you can almost taste it

> > Release your inhibitions

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> >

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> > The rest is still unwritten

> >

> > Staring at the blank page before you

> > Open up the dirty window

> > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> >

> > Reaching for something in the distance

> > So close you can almost taste it

> > Release your inhibitions

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> >

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> > The rest is still unwritten

> >

> > Lilly

> >

> >

>

>

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These concepts have precise meaning and implications as explained by you,no

doubt

Don't you think that 1 performs ambiguous role by substution principle and the

duality

of kendra as well trikona.

yet existence of that " thinline " Ignorance.God's polytrick?

Four Kendras:Dharma.Ardha.Kama and Moksha also represent yuga purusha importance

of each element " as well all in one "

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Sat, 1/23/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

 

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

 

Saturday, January 23, 2010, 4:50 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Krishnan dada,

 

Why did the ANCIENTS describe FOUR yugas?

 

WHY not just THREE YUGAS that would have fallen in SYNC with our beloved trines

in Jyotish? The AAJ-KAL aur KAL? 1-5-9?

 

Bsed on the premise that the trines represent the clock while the kendras

represent the circumstances and environments!

 

Standard Jyotish that you and I delve in!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..>

wrote:

>

> Sir,

> Transitional issues known through ''Yugas " have to be seen that every person

born is guided properly and the bad or evil that troubles and compels humans are

not left at the mercy of unknown/evil minds(asuras) by their hold on

Shristi.Scope for sanitisation is the perspective in different yugas so that

total protection from the Super Power is believed and trusted.

> A meaningful approach that  " Aham " promotes " brih " In the 'shristi " is a Very

positive frame work.

> Every ordinary person that can understand " Brahma " ''Shristi " need not be

necessarily find issues as complex.as actions'otherwise Known through Karmas

have to be performed in such a way that postive out look of shisht is

maintained.Options before him are to perform karmas with the faith in superpower

and to make an effort to reduce the burden that is carried of past karmas..

>  Those bewildered with so many things around him have only to be grateful

to the God as an opportunity given to reform and develop.

>

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>  

>

> --- On Sat, 1/23/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ ...> wrote:

>

>

> Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ ...>

> Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

>

> Saturday, January 23, 2010, 3:28 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Dear Krishnanji,

>

> The root for Brahma is " brih " meaning 'to grow'. A seed grows into a

> tree; thoughts grow into action - fruit being the final outcome in both

> cases.

>

> Of course, so thin is the dividing line between free will and destiny

> that it is not easy to differentiate between the two. One creates new

> karma while the other is the result of previous karma.

>

> Best wishes,

> Amitabh Shastri

>

> On 1/22/2010 12:12 AM, Vattem Krishnan wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shri Shastri Ji

> > Infact you have given life to the thread.Infact a philosophical issue

> > when considered as relevant to astral level,it changes the out look.

> > and meaning of this topic.Kudos Sir,

> > This is exactly we find find free will to operate. The Astral level

> > implications making headaway through Lagna,pancham and navam is

> > realisation of ambitions or fulfilling the ideals.

> > That is how the story of Infosys,Reliance and Tata. Their sankalp is

> > beyond their faculties that made them to deram,work and realise

> > finally. It is matter of determination.

> > The creation of universe in a metaphorical sense is brahma sankalp and

> > it individual one can also think and make a meaningful creation to

> > fulfil one'e ambition

> >

> > Vattem Krishnan

> > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > (For all counseling services)

> > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> >

> >

> > --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk

> > <amitabh_ shastri%40. co.uk>> wrote:

> >

> > Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk

> > <amitabh_ shastri%40. co.uk>>

> > Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

> >

> > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > Cc: " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@

> > <tigresslill y2005%40. com>>

> > Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:42 AM

> >

> >

> >

> > " A thought held in your imagination, with focus and concentration,

> > backed by the force of your will and desire will become imprinted deeply

> > on your sub-conscious mind and take form on the astral level. With

> > repeated visualizations it will gather energy and power till it

> > eventually manifests itself as a physical reality. "

> >

> > Best wishes,

> > Amitabh Shastri

> >

> > On 1/21/2010 4:11 PM, Lilly wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > It is said in the scripitures that BRAHMA created this universe with

> > > his sankalap (mind/thoughts) ! At the beginning of the process of

> > > creation Brahma created 11 Prajapatis who are believed to be the

> > > fathers of the human race..He also created the 7 sages/ Saptarishi(7

> > > heavenly bodies) to help him create the universe. However since all

> > > these sons of his were born out of his mind rather than body, they are

> > > called Manas Putras/mind- sons/spirits. .Brahma is also said to be son

> > > of the Supreme Being, Brahman, and the female energy known as Prakrti

> > > or Maya(By the way all this information is on Wikipedia)..

> > >

> > > I found a beautiful song called " Unwritten " that ties up well with

> > > this whole BRAHMA's creation theory..It just got me thinking that if

> > > Brahma can create his universe from his mind/thoughts; maybe we also

> > > have a chance to create our own destiny!!

> > >

> > > " Unwritten "

> > >

> > > I am unwritten, can't read my mind, I'm undefined

> > > I'm just beginning, the pen's in my hand, ending unplanned

> > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > Open up the dirty window

> > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > Release your inhibitions

> > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > Only you can let it in

> > > No one else, no one else

> > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > Today is where your book begins

> > > The rest is still unwritten

> > > I break tradition, sometimes my tries, are outside the lines

> > > We've been conditioned to not make mistakes, but I can't live that way

> > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > Open up the dirty window

> > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > Release your inhibitions

> > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > Only you can let it in

> > > No one else, no one else

> > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > Today is where your book begins

> > >

> > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > Only you can let it in

> > > No one else, no one else

> > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > Today is where your book begins

> > > The rest is still unwritten

> > >

> > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > Open up the dirty window

> > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > >

> > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > Release your inhibitions

> > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > Only you can let it in

> > > No one else, no one else

> > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > Today is where your book begins

> > >

> > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > Only you can let it in

> > > No one else, no one else

> > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > Today is where your book begins

> > > The rest is still unwritten

> > >

> > > Lilly

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

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Why Santhosh jee -- That was the YEAR ZERO!

For MOST OF US! Please do scroll!

 

OBVIOUSLY!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sznthoshjee,

 

Actually, it is when personal reality began! The YEAR ZERO began when we did!

Look at your birtchart! Simple...!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, Santhosh <santhosh10 wrote:

>

> Dear Krishnan ji,

>

> can you tell me when was this first yuga running in terms of earth year?

> i have a specific reason to ask this. i will get back to you after i know the

above answer either from you or anybody else in the forum.

> i am asking for any proof for it. i would just like to know as per

tradition/myth or as per purana when did the first yuga begin?

>

> regards

> santhosh

>

>  

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99

>

> Sat, 23 January, 2010 3:11:16 PM

> Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

>

>  

> Sir,

> Transitional issues known through ''Yugas " have to be seen that every person

born is guided properly and the bad or evil that troubles and compels humans are

not left at the mercy of unknown/evil minds(asuras) by their hold on

Shristi.Scope for sanitisation is the perspective in different yugas so that

total protection from the Super Power is believed and trusted.

> A meaningful approach that  " Aham " promotes " brih " In the 'shristi " is a Very

positive frame work.

> Every ordinary person that can understand " Brahma " ''Shristi " need not be

necessarily find issues as complex.as actions'otherwise Known through Karmas

have to be performed in such a way that postive out look of shisht is

maintained.Options before him are to perform karmas with the faith in superpower

and to make an effort to reduce the burden that is carried of past karmas..

>  Those bewildered with so many things around him have only to be grateful to

the God as an opportunity given to reform and develop.

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>  

>

> --- On Sat, 1/23/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk> wrote:

>

> Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk>

> Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

>

> Saturday, January 23, 2010, 3:28 AM

>

>  

>

> Dear Krishnanji,

>

> The root for Brahma is " brih " meaning 'to grow'. A seed grows into a

> tree; thoughts grow into action - fruit being the final outcome in both

> cases.

>

> Of course, so thin is the dividing line between free will and destiny

> that it is not easy to differentiate between the two. One creates new

> karma while the other is the result of previous karma.

>

> Best wishes,

> Amitabh Shastri

>

> On 1/22/2010 12:12 AM, Vattem Krishnan wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shri Shastri Ji

> > Infact you have given life to the thread.Infact a philosophical issue

> > when considered as relevant to astral level,it changes the out look.

> > and meaning of this topic.Kudos Sir,

> > This is exactly we find find free will to operate. The Astral level

> > implications making headaway through Lagna,pancham and navam is

> > realisation of ambitions or fulfilling the ideals.

> > That is how the story of Infosys,Reliance and Tata. Their sankalp is

> > beyond their faculties that made them to deram,work and realise

> > finally. It is matter of determination.

> > The creation of universe in a metaphorical sense is brahma sankalp and

> > it individual one can also think and make a meaningful creation to

> > fulfil one'e ambition

> >

> > Vattem Krishnan

> > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > (For all counseling services)

> > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> >

> >

> > --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk

> > <amitabh_ shastri%40. co.uk>> wrote:

> >

> > Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk

> > <amitabh_ shastri%40. co.uk>>

> > Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

> >

> > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > Cc: " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@

> > <tigresslill y2005%40. com>>

> > Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:42 AM

> >

> >

> >

> > " A thought held in your imagination, with focus and concentration,

> > backed by the force of your will and desire will become imprinted deeply

> > on your sub-conscious mind and take form on the astral level. With

> > repeated visualizations it will gather energy and power till it

> > eventually manifests itself as a physical reality. "

> >

> > Best wishes,

> > Amitabh Shastri

> >

> > On 1/21/2010 4:11 PM, Lilly wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > It is said in the scripitures that BRAHMA created this universe with

> > > his sankalap (mind/thoughts) ! At the beginning of the process of

> > > creation Brahma created 11 Prajapatis who are believed to be the

> > > fathers of the human race..He also created the 7 sages/ Saptarishi(7

> > > heavenly bodies) to help him create the universe. However since all

> > > these sons of his were born out of his mind rather than body, they are

> > > called Manas Putras/mind- sons/spirits. .Brahma is also said to be son

> > > of the Supreme Being, Brahman, and the female energy known as Prakrti

> > > or Maya(By the way all this information is on Wikipedia)..

> > >

> > > I found a beautiful song called " Unwritten " that ties up well with

> > > this whole BRAHMA's creation theory..It just got me thinking that if

> > > Brahma can create his universe from his mind/thoughts; maybe we also

> > > have a chance to create our own destiny!!

> > >

> > > " Unwritten "

> > >

> > > I am unwritten, can't read my mind, I'm undefined

> > > I'm just beginning, the pen's in my hand, ending unplanned

> > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > Open up the dirty window

> > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > Release your inhibitions

> > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > Only you can let it in

> > > No one else, no one else

> > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > Today is where your book begins

> > > The rest is still unwritten

> > > I break tradition, sometimes my tries, are outside the lines

> > > We've been conditioned to not make mistakes, but I can't live that way

> > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > Open up the dirty window

> > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > Release your inhibitions

> > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > Only you can let it in

> > > No one else, no one else

> > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > Today is where your book begins

> > >

> > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > Only you can let it in

> > > No one else, no one else

> > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > Today is where your book begins

> > > The rest is still unwritten

> > >

> > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > Open up the dirty window

> > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > >

> > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > Release your inhibitions

> > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > Only you can let it in

> > > No one else, no one else

> > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > Today is where your book begins

> > >

> > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > Only you can let it in

> > > No one else, no one else

> > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > Today is where your book begins

> > > The rest is still unwritten

> > >

> > > Lilly

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

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//i am asking for any proof for it//

i meant to say i am NOT asking for any proof.

sorry

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Santhosh <santhosh10

 

Sat, 23 January, 2010 3:29:21 PM

Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

 

 

Dear Krishnan ji,

 

can you tell me when was this first yuga running in terms of earth year?

i have a specific reason to ask this. i will get back to you after i know the

above answer either from you or anybody else in the forum.

i am asking for any proof for it. i would just like to know as per

tradition/myth or as per purana when did the first yuga begin?

 

regards

santhosh

 

 

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 >

 

Sat, 23 January, 2010 3:11:16 PM

Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

 

 

Sir,

Transitional issues known through ''Yugas " have to be seen that every person

born is guided properly and the bad or evil that troubles and compels humans are

not left at the mercy of unknown/evil minds(asuras) by their hold on

Shristi.Scope for sanitisation is the perspective in different yugas so that

total protection from the Super Power is believed and trusted.

A meaningful approach that  " Aham " promotes " brih " In the 'shristi " is a Very

positive frame work.

Every ordinary person that can understand " Brahma " ''Shristi " need not be

necessarily find issues as complex.as actions'otherwise Known through Karmas

have to be performed in such a way that postive out look of shisht is

maintained.Options before him are to perform karmas with the faith in superpower

and to make an effort to reduce the burden that is carried of past karmas..

 Those bewildered with so many things around him have only to be grateful to

the God as an opportunity given to reform and develop.

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Sat, 1/23/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk> wrote:

 

Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk>

Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

 

Saturday, January 23, 2010, 3:28 AM

 

 

 

Dear Krishnanji,

 

The root for Brahma is " brih " meaning 'to grow'. A seed grows into a

tree; thoughts grow into action - fruit being the final outcome in both

cases.

 

Of course, so thin is the dividing line between free will and destiny

that it is not easy to differentiate between the two. One creates new

karma while the other is the result of previous karma.

 

Best wishes,

Amitabh Shastri

 

On 1/22/2010 12:12 AM, Vattem Krishnan wrote:

>

> Dear Shri Shastri Ji

> Infact you have given life to the thread.Infact a philosophical issue

> when considered as relevant to astral level,it changes the out look.

> and meaning of this topic.Kudos Sir,

> This is exactly we find find free will to operate. The Astral level

> implications making headaway through Lagna,pancham and navam is

> realisation of ambitions or fulfilling the ideals.

> That is how the story of Infosys,Reliance and Tata. Their sankalp is

> beyond their faculties that made them to deram,work and realise

> finally. It is matter of determination.

> The creation of universe in a metaphorical sense is brahma sankalp and

> it individual one can also think and make a meaningful creation to

> fulfil one'e ambition

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>

>

> --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk

> <amitabh_ shastri%40. co.uk>> wrote:

>

> Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk

> <amitabh_ shastri%40. co.uk>>

> Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

>

> <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> Cc: " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@

> <tigresslill y2005%40. com>>

> Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:42 AM

>

>

>

> " A thought held in your imagination, with focus and concentration,

> backed by the force of your will and desire will become imprinted deeply

> on your sub-conscious mind and take form on the astral level. With

> repeated visualizations it will gather energy and power till it

> eventually manifests itself as a physical reality. "

>

> Best wishes,

> Amitabh Shastri

>

> On 1/21/2010 4:11 PM, Lilly wrote:

> >

> >

> > It is said in the scripitures that BRAHMA created this universe with

> > his sankalap (mind/thoughts) ! At the beginning of the process of

> > creation Brahma created 11 Prajapatis who are believed to be the

> > fathers of the human race..He also created the 7 sages/ Saptarishi(7

> > heavenly bodies) to help him create the universe. However since all

> > these sons of his were born out of his mind rather than body, they are

> > called Manas Putras/mind- sons/spirits. .Brahma is also said to be son

> > of the Supreme Being, Brahman, and the female energy known as Prakrti

> > or Maya(By the way all this information is on Wikipedia)..

> >

> > I found a beautiful song called " Unwritten " that ties up well with

> > this whole BRAHMA's creation theory..It just got me thinking that if

> > Brahma can create his universe from his mind/thoughts; maybe we also

> > have a chance to create our own destiny!!

> >

> > " Unwritten "

> >

> > I am unwritten, can't read my mind, I'm undefined

> > I'm just beginning, the pen's in my hand, ending unplanned

> > Staring at the blank page before you

> > Open up the dirty window

> > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > Reaching for something in the distance

> > So close you can almost taste it

> > Release your inhibitions

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> > The rest is still unwritten

> > I break tradition, sometimes my tries, are outside the lines

> > We've been conditioned to not make mistakes, but I can't live that way

> > Staring at the blank page before you

> > Open up the dirty window

> > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > Reaching for something in the distance

> > So close you can almost taste it

> > Release your inhibitions

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> >

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> > The rest is still unwritten

> >

> > Staring at the blank page before you

> > Open up the dirty window

> > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> >

> > Reaching for something in the distance

> > So close you can almost taste it

> > Release your inhibitions

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> >

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> > The rest is still unwritten

> >

> > Lilly

> >

> >

>

>

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I think, without mincing words_dada, that you should post more original material

rather than COPYING & PASTING! We all LOVE you and KNOW that you are way more

capable of more than C & P!

 

One sentance at a time is how we human beings live our incarnations! :-(

 

Rohini

 

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> These concepts have precise meaning and implications as explained by you,no

doubt

> Don't you think that 1 performs ambiguous role by substution principle and

the duality

> of kendra as well trikona.

> yet existence of that " thinline " Ignorance.God's polytrick?

> Four Kendras:Dharma.Ardha.Kama and Moksha also represent yuga purusha

importance of each element " as well all in one "

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>  

>

> --- On Sat, 1/23/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

>

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

> Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

>

> Saturday, January 23, 2010, 4:50 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Krishnan dada,

>

> Why did the ANCIENTS describe FOUR yugas?

>

> WHY not just THREE YUGAS that would have fallen in SYNC with our beloved

trines in Jyotish? The AAJ-KAL aur KAL? 1-5-9?

>

> Bsed on the premise that the trines represent the clock while the kendras

represent the circumstances and environments!

>

> Standard Jyotish that you and I delve in!

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> >

> > Sir,

> > Transitional issues known through ''Yugas " have to be seen that every person

born is guided properly and the bad or evil that troubles and compels humans are

not left at the mercy of unknown/evil minds(asuras) by their hold on

Shristi.Scope for sanitisation is the perspective in different yugas so that

total protection from the Super Power is believed and trusted.

> > A meaningful approach that  " Aham " promotes " brih " In the 'shristi " is a

Very positive frame work.

> > Every ordinary person that can understand " Brahma " ''Shristi " need not be

necessarily find issues as complex.as actions'otherwise Known through Karmas

have to be performed in such a way that postive out look of shisht is

maintained.Options before him are to perform karmas with the faith in superpower

and to make an effort to reduce the burden that is carried of past karmas..

> >  Those bewildered with so many things around him have only to be grateful

to the God as an opportunity given to reform and develop.

> >

> >

> > Vattem Krishnan

> > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > (For all counseling services)

> > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> >  

> >

> > --- On Sat, 1/23/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ ...>

> > Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

> >

> > Saturday, January 23, 2010, 3:28 AM

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Krishnanji,

> >

> > The root for Brahma is " brih " meaning 'to grow'. A seed grows into a

> > tree; thoughts grow into action - fruit being the final outcome in both

> > cases.

> >

> > Of course, so thin is the dividing line between free will and destiny

> > that it is not easy to differentiate between the two. One creates new

> > karma while the other is the result of previous karma.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> > Amitabh Shastri

> >

> > On 1/22/2010 12:12 AM, Vattem Krishnan wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Shri Shastri Ji

> > > Infact you have given life to the thread.Infact a philosophical issue

> > > when considered as relevant to astral level,it changes the out look.

> > > and meaning of this topic.Kudos Sir,

> > > This is exactly we find find free will to operate. The Astral level

> > > implications making headaway through Lagna,pancham and navam is

> > > realisation of ambitions or fulfilling the ideals.

> > > That is how the story of Infosys,Reliance and Tata. Their sankalp is

> > > beyond their faculties that made them to deram,work and realise

> > > finally. It is matter of determination.

> > > The creation of universe in a metaphorical sense is brahma sankalp and

> > > it individual one can also think and make a meaningful creation to

> > > fulfil one'e ambition

> > >

> > > Vattem Krishnan

> > > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > > (For all counseling services)

> > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> > >

> > >

> > > --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk

> > > <amitabh_ shastri%40. co.uk>> wrote:

> > >

> > > Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk

> > > <amitabh_ shastri%40. co.uk>>

> > > Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

> > >

> > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > Cc: " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@

> > > <tigresslill y2005%40. com>>

> > > Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:42 AM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > " A thought held in your imagination, with focus and concentration,

> > > backed by the force of your will and desire will become imprinted deeply

> > > on your sub-conscious mind and take form on the astral level. With

> > > repeated visualizations it will gather energy and power till it

> > > eventually manifests itself as a physical reality. "

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > > Amitabh Shastri

> > >

> > > On 1/21/2010 4:11 PM, Lilly wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > It is said in the scripitures that BRAHMA created this universe with

> > > > his sankalap (mind/thoughts) ! At the beginning of the process of

> > > > creation Brahma created 11 Prajapatis who are believed to be the

> > > > fathers of the human race..He also created the 7 sages/ Saptarishi(7

> > > > heavenly bodies) to help him create the universe. However since all

> > > > these sons of his were born out of his mind rather than body, they are

> > > > called Manas Putras/mind- sons/spirits. .Brahma is also said to be son

> > > > of the Supreme Being, Brahman, and the female energy known as Prakrti

> > > > or Maya(By the way all this information is on Wikipedia)..

> > > >

> > > > I found a beautiful song called " Unwritten " that ties up well with

> > > > this whole BRAHMA's creation theory..It just got me thinking that if

> > > > Brahma can create his universe from his mind/thoughts; maybe we also

> > > > have a chance to create our own destiny!!

> > > >

> > > > " Unwritten "

> > > >

> > > > I am unwritten, can't read my mind, I'm undefined

> > > > I'm just beginning, the pen's in my hand, ending unplanned

> > > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > > Open up the dirty window

> > > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > > Release your inhibitions

> > > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > > Only you can let it in

> > > > No one else, no one else

> > > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > > Today is where your book begins

> > > > The rest is still unwritten

> > > > I break tradition, sometimes my tries, are outside the lines

> > > > We've been conditioned to not make mistakes, but I can't live that way

> > > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > > Open up the dirty window

> > > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > > Release your inhibitions

> > > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > > Only you can let it in

> > > > No one else, no one else

> > > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > > Today is where your book begins

> > > >

> > > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > > Only you can let it in

> > > > No one else, no one else

> > > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > > Today is where your book begins

> > > > The rest is still unwritten

> > > >

> > > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > > Open up the dirty window

> > > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > > >

> > > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > > Release your inhibitions

> > > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > > Only you can let it in

> > > > No one else, no one else

> > > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > > Today is where your book begins

> > > >

> > > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > > Only you can let it in

> > > > No one else, no one else

> > > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > > Today is where your book begins

> > > > The rest is still unwritten

> > > >

> > > > Lilly

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

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Dear Rohini Ji,

 

Ok let me rephrase. i wanted to know how many years back was the beginning. like

say 10000 years back, or 99000 years back etc. year zero is not helping me. or

it can behow many earth years it has been since year zero.

 

Thanks and Regards

santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

 

Sat, 23 January, 2010 3:40:23 PM

Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

 

 

Why Santhosh jee -- That was the YEAR ZERO!

For MOST OF US! Please do scroll!

 

OBVIOUSLY!

 

Sznthoshjee,

 

Actually, it is when personal reality began! The YEAR ZERO began when we did!

Look at your birtchart! Simple...!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, Santhosh <santhosh10@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Krishnan ji,

>

> can you tell me when was this first yuga running in terms of earth year?

> i have a specific reason to ask this. i will get back to you after i know the

above answer either from you or anybody else in the forum.

> i am asking for any proof for it. i would just like to know as per

tradition/myth or as per purana when did the first yuga begin?

>

> regards

> santhosh

>

>  

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..>

>

> Sat, 23 January, 2010 3:11:16 PM

> Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

>

>  

> Sir,

> Transitional issues known through ''Yugas " have to be seen that every person

born is guided properly and the bad or evil that troubles and compels humans are

not left at the mercy of unknown/evil minds(asuras) by their hold on

Shristi.Scope for sanitisation is the perspective in different yugas so that

total protection from the Super Power is believed and trusted.

> A meaningful approach that  " Aham " promotes " brih " In the 'shristi " is a Very

positive frame work.

> Every ordinary person that can understand " Brahma " ''Shristi " need not be

necessarily find issues as complex.as actions'otherwise Known through Karmas

have to be performed in such a way that postive out look of shisht is

maintained.Options before him are to perform karmas with the faith in superpower

and to make an effort to reduce the burden that is carried of past karmas..

>  Those bewildered with so many things around him have only to be grateful

to the God as an opportunity given to reform and develop.

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>  

>

> --- On Sat, 1/23/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk> wrote:

>

> Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk>

> Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

>

> Saturday, January 23, 2010, 3:28 AM

>

>  

>

> Dear Krishnanji,

>

> The root for Brahma is " brih " meaning 'to grow'. A seed grows into a

> tree; thoughts grow into action - fruit being the final outcome in both

> cases.

>

> Of course, so thin is the dividing line between free will and destiny

> that it is not easy to differentiate between the two. One creates new

> karma while the other is the result of previous karma.

>

> Best wishes,

> Amitabh Shastri

>

> On 1/22/2010 12:12 AM, Vattem Krishnan wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shri Shastri Ji

> > Infact you have given life to the thread.Infact a philosophical issue

> > when considered as relevant to astral level,it changes the out look.

> > and meaning of this topic.Kudos Sir,

> > This is exactly we find find free will to operate. The Astral level

> > implications making headaway through Lagna,pancham and navam is

> > realisation of ambitions or fulfilling the ideals.

> > That is how the story of Infosys,Reliance and Tata. Their sankalp is

> > beyond their faculties that made them to deram,work and realise

> > finally. It is matter of determination.

> > The creation of universe in a metaphorical sense is brahma sankalp and

> > it individual one can also think and make a meaningful creation to

> > fulfil one'e ambition

> >

> > Vattem Krishnan

> > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > (For all counseling services)

> > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> >

> >

> > --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk

> > <amitabh_ shastri%40. co.uk>> wrote:

> >

> > Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk

> > <amitabh_ shastri%40. co.uk>>

> > Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

> >

> > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > Cc: " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@

> > <tigresslill y2005%40. com>>

> > Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:42 AM

> >

> >

> >

> > " A thought held in your imagination, with focus and concentration,

> > backed by the force of your will and desire will become imprinted deeply

> > on your sub-conscious mind and take form on the astral level. With

> > repeated visualizations it will gather energy and power till it

> > eventually manifests itself as a physical reality. "

> >

> > Best wishes,

> > Amitabh Shastri

> >

> > On 1/21/2010 4:11 PM, Lilly wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > It is said in the scripitures that BRAHMA created this universe with

> > > his sankalap (mind/thoughts) ! At the beginning of the process of

> > > creation Brahma created 11 Prajapatis who are believed to be the

> > > fathers of the human race..He also created the 7 sages/ Saptarishi(7

> > > heavenly bodies) to help him create the universe. However since all

> > > these sons of his were born out of his mind rather than body, they are

> > > called Manas Putras/mind- sons/spirits. .Brahma is also said to be son

> > > of the Supreme Being, Brahman, and the female energy known as Prakrti

> > > or Maya(By the way all this information is on Wikipedia)..

> > >

> > > I found a beautiful song called " Unwritten " that ties up well with

> > > this whole BRAHMA's creation theory..It just got me thinking that if

> > > Brahma can create his universe from his mind/thoughts; maybe we also

> > > have a chance to create our own destiny!!

> > >

> > > " Unwritten "

> > >

> > > I am unwritten, can't read my mind, I'm undefined

> > > I'm just beginning, the pen's in my hand, ending unplanned

> > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > Open up the dirty window

> > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > Release your inhibitions

> > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > Only you can let it in

> > > No one else, no one else

> > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > Today is where your book begins

> > > The rest is still unwritten

> > > I break tradition, sometimes my tries, are outside the lines

> > > We've been conditioned to not make mistakes, but I can't live that way

> > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > Open up the dirty window

> > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > Release your inhibitions

> > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > Only you can let it in

> > > No one else, no one else

> > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > Today is where your book begins

> > >

> > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > Only you can let it in

> > > No one else, no one else

> > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > Today is where your book begins

> > > The rest is still unwritten

> > >

> > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > Open up the dirty window

> > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > >

> > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > Release your inhibitions

> > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > Only you can let it in

> > > No one else, no one else

> > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > Today is where your book begins

> > >

> > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > Only you can let it in

> > > No one else, no one else

> > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > Today is where your book begins

> > > The rest is still unwritten

> > >

> > > Lilly

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

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Unless you remember clearly your last birth, Santhosh jee--

 

WE ALL BEGIN NOW! Don't worry about the CLOCK or clock!!

 

Regards,

 

Rohiniranjan!

 

 

 

, Santhosh <santhosh10 wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini Ji,

>

> Ok let me rephrase. i wanted to know how many years back was the beginning.

like say 10000 years back, or 99000 years back etc. year zero is not helping me.

or it can behow many earth years it has been since year zero.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> santhosh

>

>  

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

>

> Sat, 23 January, 2010 3:40:23 PM

> Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

>

>  

> Why Santhosh jee -- That was the YEAR ZERO!

> For MOST OF US! Please do scroll!

>

> OBVIOUSLY!

>

> Sznthoshjee,

>

> Actually, it is when personal reality began! The YEAR ZERO began when we did!

Look at your birtchart! Simple...!

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , Santhosh <santhosh10@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Krishnan ji,

> >

> > can you tell me when was this first yuga running in terms of earth year?

> > i have a specific reason to ask this. i will get back to you after i know

the above answer either from you or anybody else in the forum.

> > i am asking for any proof for it. i would just like to know as per

tradition/myth or as per purana when did the first yuga begin?

> >

> > regards

> > santhosh

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

> >

> > Sat, 23 January, 2010 3:11:16 PM

> > Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

> >

> >  

> > Sir,

> > Transitional issues known through ''Yugas " have to be seen that every person

born is guided properly and the bad or evil that troubles and compels humans are

not left at the mercy of unknown/evil minds(asuras) by their hold on

Shristi.Scope for sanitisation is the perspective in different yugas so that

total protection from the Super Power is believed and trusted.

> > A meaningful approach that  " Aham " promotes " brih " In the 'shristi " is a

Very positive frame work.

> > Every ordinary person that can understand " Brahma " ''Shristi " need not be

necessarily find issues as complex.as actions'otherwise Known through Karmas

have to be performed in such a way that postive out look of shisht is

maintained.Options before him are to perform karmas with the faith in superpower

and to make an effort to reduce the burden that is carried of past karmas..

> >  Those bewildered with so many things around him have only to be grateful

to the God as an opportunity given to reform and develop.

> >

> > Vattem Krishnan

> > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > (For all counseling services)

> > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> >  

> >

> > --- On Sat, 1/23/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk> wrote:

> >

> > Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk>

> > Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

> >

> > Saturday, January 23, 2010, 3:28 AM

> >

> >  

> >

> > Dear Krishnanji,

> >

> > The root for Brahma is " brih " meaning 'to grow'. A seed grows into a

> > tree; thoughts grow into action - fruit being the final outcome in both

> > cases.

> >

> > Of course, so thin is the dividing line between free will and destiny

> > that it is not easy to differentiate between the two. One creates new

> > karma while the other is the result of previous karma.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> > Amitabh Shastri

> >

> > On 1/22/2010 12:12 AM, Vattem Krishnan wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Shri Shastri Ji

> > > Infact you have given life to the thread.Infact a philosophical issue

> > > when considered as relevant to astral level,it changes the out look.

> > > and meaning of this topic.Kudos Sir,

> > > This is exactly we find find free will to operate. The Astral level

> > > implications making headaway through Lagna,pancham and navam is

> > > realisation of ambitions or fulfilling the ideals.

> > > That is how the story of Infosys,Reliance and Tata. Their sankalp is

> > > beyond their faculties that made them to deram,work and realise

> > > finally. It is matter of determination.

> > > The creation of universe in a metaphorical sense is brahma sankalp and

> > > it individual one can also think and make a meaningful creation to

> > > fulfil one'e ambition

> > >

> > > Vattem Krishnan

> > > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > > (For all counseling services)

> > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> > >

> > >

> > > --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk

> > > <amitabh_ shastri%40. co.uk>> wrote:

> > >

> > > Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk

> > > <amitabh_ shastri%40. co.uk>>

> > > Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

> > >

> > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > Cc: " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@

> > > <tigresslill y2005%40. com>>

> > > Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:42 AM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > " A thought held in your imagination, with focus and concentration,

> > > backed by the force of your will and desire will become imprinted deeply

> > > on your sub-conscious mind and take form on the astral level. With

> > > repeated visualizations it will gather energy and power till it

> > > eventually manifests itself as a physical reality. "

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > > Amitabh Shastri

> > >

> > > On 1/21/2010 4:11 PM, Lilly wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > It is said in the scripitures that BRAHMA created this universe with

> > > > his sankalap (mind/thoughts) ! At the beginning of the process of

> > > > creation Brahma created 11 Prajapatis who are believed to be the

> > > > fathers of the human race..He also created the 7 sages/ Saptarishi(7

> > > > heavenly bodies) to help him create the universe. However since all

> > > > these sons of his were born out of his mind rather than body, they are

> > > > called Manas Putras/mind- sons/spirits. .Brahma is also said to be son

> > > > of the Supreme Being, Brahman, and the female energy known as Prakrti

> > > > or Maya(By the way all this information is on Wikipedia)..

> > > >

> > > > I found a beautiful song called " Unwritten " that ties up well with

> > > > this whole BRAHMA's creation theory..It just got me thinking that if

> > > > Brahma can create his universe from his mind/thoughts; maybe we also

> > > > have a chance to create our own destiny!!

> > > >

> > > > " Unwritten "

> > > >

> > > > I am unwritten, can't read my mind, I'm undefined

> > > > I'm just beginning, the pen's in my hand, ending unplanned

> > > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > > Open up the dirty window

> > > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > > Release your inhibitions

> > > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > > Only you can let it in

> > > > No one else, no one else

> > > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > > Today is where your book begins

> > > > The rest is still unwritten

> > > > I break tradition, sometimes my tries, are outside the lines

> > > > We've been conditioned to not make mistakes, but I can't live that way

> > > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > > Open up the dirty window

> > > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > > Release your inhibitions

> > > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > > Only you can let it in

> > > > No one else, no one else

> > > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > > Today is where your book begins

> > > >

> > > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > > Only you can let it in

> > > > No one else, no one else

> > > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > > Today is where your book begins

> > > > The rest is still unwritten

> > > >

> > > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > > Open up the dirty window

> > > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > > >

> > > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > > Release your inhibitions

> > > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > > Only you can let it in

> > > > No one else, no one else

> > > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > > Today is where your book begins

> > > >

> > > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > > Only you can let it in

> > > > No one else, no one else

> > > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > > Today is where your book begins

> > > > The rest is still unwritten

> > > >

> > > > Lilly

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

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Santosh Ji

If itihasas is any source of Knowledge,it is only after Vaman Avatara,the

begining of Yuga?But in terms of years,i do not want to guess.Since Dwapara Yuga

and Treta Yuga brought out in Itihasas have been glorified through Yuga

Purushas, the understanding to mankind of these is specific.Where as Kali Yuga

referred as the presnt Yuga is referred to as  Kali Yuga Maha Purusha Lord of

SEven Hills-Lord Venkateswara

The rest,I have to count on Narada Samhita for answering precisely.may be a an

issue to look forward from collective as the question was sharp and has

something else to unfold. 

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Sat, 1/23/10, Santhosh <santhosh10 wrote:

 

 

Santhosh <santhosh10

Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

 

Saturday, January 23, 2010, 4:59 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Krishnan ji,

 

can you tell me when was this first yuga running in terms of earth year?

i have a specific reason to ask this. i will get back to you after i know the

above answer either from you or anybody else in the forum.

i am asking for any proof for it. i would just like to know as per

tradition/myth or as per purana when did the first yuga begin?

 

regards

santhosh

 

 

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 >

 

Sat, 23 January, 2010 3:11:16 PM

Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

 

 

Sir,

Transitional issues known through ''Yugas " have to be seen that every person

born is guided properly and the bad or evil that troubles and compels humans are

not left at the mercy of unknown/evil minds(asuras) by their hold on

Shristi.Scope for sanitisation is the perspective in different yugas so that

total protection from the Super Power is believed and trusted.

A meaningful approach that  " Aham " promotes " brih " In the 'shristi " is a Very

positive frame work.

Every ordinary person that can understand " Brahma " ''Shristi " need not be

necessarily find issues as complex.as actions'otherwise Known through Karmas

have to be performed in such a way that postive out look of shisht is

maintained.Options before him are to perform karmas with the faith in superpower

and to make an effort to reduce the burden that is carried of past karmas...

 Those bewildered with so many things around him have only to be grateful to

the God as an opportunity given to reform and develop.

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Sat, 1/23/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk> wrote:

 

Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk>

Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

 

Saturday, January 23, 2010, 3:28 AM

 

 

 

Dear Krishnanji,

 

The root for Brahma is " brih " meaning 'to grow'. A seed grows into a

tree; thoughts grow into action - fruit being the final outcome in both

cases.

 

Of course, so thin is the dividing line between free will and destiny

that it is not easy to differentiate between the two. One creates new

karma while the other is the result of previous karma.

 

Best wishes,

Amitabh Shastri

 

On 1/22/2010 12:12 AM, Vattem Krishnan wrote:

>

> Dear Shri Shastri Ji

> Infact you have given life to the thread.Infact a philosophical issue

> when considered as relevant to astral level,it changes the out look.

> and meaning of this topic.Kudos Sir,

> This is exactly we find find free will to operate. The Astral level

> implications making headaway through Lagna,pancham and navam is

> realisation of ambitions or fulfilling the ideals.

> That is how the story of Infosys,Reliance and Tata. Their sankalp is

> beyond their faculties that made them to deram,work and realise

> finally. It is matter of determination.

> The creation of universe in a metaphorical sense is brahma sankalp and

> it individual one can also think and make a meaningful creation to

> fulfil one'e ambition

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>

>

> --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk

> <amitabh_ shastri%40. co.uk>> wrote:

>

> Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk

> <amitabh_ shastri%40. co.uk>>

> Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

>

> <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> Cc: " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@

> <tigresslill y2005%40. com>>

> Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:42 AM

>

>

>

> " A thought held in your imagination, with focus and concentration,

> backed by the force of your will and desire will become imprinted deeply

> on your sub-conscious mind and take form on the astral level. With

> repeated visualizations it will gather energy and power till it

> eventually manifests itself as a physical reality. "

>

> Best wishes,

> Amitabh Shastri

>

> On 1/21/2010 4:11 PM, Lilly wrote:

> >

> >

> > It is said in the scripitures that BRAHMA created this universe with

> > his sankalap (mind/thoughts) ! At the beginning of the process of

> > creation Brahma created 11 Prajapatis who are believed to be the

> > fathers of the human race..He also created the 7 sages/ Saptarishi(7

> > heavenly bodies) to help him create the universe. However since all

> > these sons of his were born out of his mind rather than body, they are

> > called Manas Putras/mind- sons/spirits. .Brahma is also said to be son

> > of the Supreme Being, Brahman, and the female energy known as Prakrti

> > or Maya(By the way all this information is on Wikipedia)..

> >

> > I found a beautiful song called " Unwritten " that ties up well with

> > this whole BRAHMA's creation theory..It just got me thinking that if

> > Brahma can create his universe from his mind/thoughts; maybe we also

> > have a chance to create our own destiny!!

> >

> > " Unwritten "

> >

> > I am unwritten, can't read my mind, I'm undefined

> > I'm just beginning, the pen's in my hand, ending unplanned

> > Staring at the blank page before you

> > Open up the dirty window

> > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > Reaching for something in the distance

> > So close you can almost taste it

> > Release your inhibitions

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> > The rest is still unwritten

> > I break tradition, sometimes my tries, are outside the lines

> > We've been conditioned to not make mistakes, but I can't live that way

> > Staring at the blank page before you

> > Open up the dirty window

> > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > Reaching for something in the distance

> > So close you can almost taste it

> > Release your inhibitions

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> >

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> > The rest is still unwritten

> >

> > Staring at the blank page before you

> > Open up the dirty window

> > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> >

> > Reaching for something in the distance

> > So close you can almost taste it

> > Release your inhibitions

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> >

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> > The rest is still unwritten

> >

> > Lilly

> >

> >

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Dear krishnan ji,

 

yes you are right. i have an interesting thought. it is not a grand discovery

but nevertheless interesting.

 

Did you know that the tidal friction caused by moon is slowly reducing the

earth's rate of rotation?

This implies that the duration of time of earth day is increasing and is

directly proportional to time.

This has been astronomically worked out to increase in duration of day by about

1.8 x 10 (to the power of -3) seconds per century.

if we do some maths we can find that at some period in the history of earth,

2x10(to the power of 9) years ago, earth would have a 5 hour day instead of the

present 24 hours with the time take to revolve around sun also

commensurately adjusted .

now according to discover channel, national geographic and theoritical science,

during this period there was no life on earth. but if there was life and if man

existed then, a 5 hour day means the maximum age of man would have been more

than 500 years calculating at the current astro rate of 120 years for a 24 hour

day.

we have read that our seers used to live for hundreds of years. could it be

somehow related to this?

this also means that in some long distance future, when the earth takes a long

long time to complete one day, our age may be in terms of a few years countable

on our fingers....

regards

santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99

 

Sat, 23 January, 2010 3:53:09 PM

Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

 

 

Santosh Ji

If itihasas is any source of Knowledge,it is only after Vaman Avatara,the

begining of Yuga?But in terms of years,i do not want to guess.Since Dwapara Yuga

and Treta Yuga brought out in Itihasas have been glorified through Yuga

Purushas, the understanding to mankind of these is specific.Where as Kali Yuga

referred as the presnt Yuga is referred to as  Kali Yuga Maha Purusha Lord of

SEven Hills-Lord Venkateswara

The rest,I have to count on Narada Samhita for answering precisely.may be a an

issue to look forward from collective as the question was sharp and has

something else to unfold. 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Sat, 1/23/10, Santhosh <santhosh10 > wrote:

 

Santhosh <santhosh10 >

Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

 

Saturday, January 23, 2010, 4:59 AM

 

 

 

Dear Krishnan ji,

 

can you tell me when was this first yuga running in terms of earth year?

i have a specific reason to ask this. i will get back to you after i know the

above answer either from you or anybody else in the forum.

i am asking for any proof for it. i would just like to know as per

tradition/myth or as per purana when did the first yuga begin?

 

regards

santhosh

 

 

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 >

 

Sat, 23 January, 2010 3:11:16 PM

Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

 

 

Sir,

Transitional issues known through ''Yugas " have to be seen that every person

born is guided properly and the bad or evil that troubles and compels humans are

not left at the mercy of unknown/evil minds(asuras) by their hold on

Shristi.Scope for sanitisation is the perspective in different yugas so that

total protection from the Super Power is believed and trusted.

A meaningful approach that  " Aham " promotes " brih " In the 'shristi " is a Very

positive frame work.

Every ordinary person that can understand " Brahma " ''Shristi " need not be

necessarily find issues as complex.as actions'otherwise Known through Karmas

have to be performed in such a way that postive out look of shisht is

maintained.Options before him are to perform karmas with the faith in superpower

and to make an effort to reduce the burden that is carried of past karmas...

 Those bewildered with so many things around him have only to be grateful to

the God as an opportunity given to reform and develop.

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Sat, 1/23/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk> wrote:

 

Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk>

Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

 

Saturday, January 23, 2010, 3:28 AM

 

 

 

Dear Krishnanji,

 

The root for Brahma is " brih " meaning 'to grow'. A seed grows into a

tree; thoughts grow into action - fruit being the final outcome in both

cases.

 

Of course, so thin is the dividing line between free will and destiny

that it is not easy to differentiate between the two. One creates new

karma while the other is the result of previous karma.

 

Best wishes,

Amitabh Shastri

 

On 1/22/2010 12:12 AM, Vattem Krishnan wrote:

>

> Dear Shri Shastri Ji

> Infact you have given life to the thread.Infact a philosophical issue

> when considered as relevant to astral level,it changes the out look.

> and meaning of this topic.Kudos Sir,

> This is exactly we find find free will to operate. The Astral level

> implications making headaway through Lagna,pancham and navam is

> realisation of ambitions or fulfilling the ideals.

> That is how the story of Infosys,Reliance and Tata. Their sankalp is

> beyond their faculties that made them to deram,work and realise

> finally. It is matter of determination.

> The creation of universe in a metaphorical sense is brahma sankalp and

> it individual one can also think and make a meaningful creation to

> fulfil one'e ambition

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>

>

> --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk

> <amitabh_ shastri%40. co.uk>> wrote:

>

> Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk

> <amitabh_ shastri%40. co.uk>>

> Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

>

> <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> Cc: " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@

> <tigresslill y2005%40. com>>

> Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:42 AM

>

>

>

> " A thought held in your imagination, with focus and concentration,

> backed by the force of your will and desire will become imprinted deeply

> on your sub-conscious mind and take form on the astral level. With

> repeated visualizations it will gather energy and power till it

> eventually manifests itself as a physical reality. "

>

> Best wishes,

> Amitabh Shastri

>

> On 1/21/2010 4:11 PM, Lilly wrote:

> >

> >

> > It is said in the scripitures that BRAHMA created this universe with

> > his sankalap (mind/thoughts) ! At the beginning of the process of

> > creation Brahma created 11 Prajapatis who are believed to be the

> > fathers of the human race..He also created the 7 sages/ Saptarishi(7

> > heavenly bodies) to help him create the universe. However since all

> > these sons of his were born out of his mind rather than body, they are

> > called Manas Putras/mind- sons/spirits. .Brahma is also said to be son

> > of the Supreme Being, Brahman, and the female energy known as Prakrti

> > or Maya(By the way all this information is on Wikipedia)..

> >

> > I found a beautiful song called " Unwritten " that ties up well with

> > this whole BRAHMA's creation theory..It just got me thinking that if

> > Brahma can create his universe from his mind/thoughts; maybe we also

> > have a chance to create our own destiny!!

> >

> > " Unwritten "

> >

> > I am unwritten, can't read my mind, I'm undefined

> > I'm just beginning, the pen's in my hand, ending unplanned

> > Staring at the blank page before you

> > Open up the dirty window

> > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > Reaching for something in the distance

> > So close you can almost taste it

> > Release your inhibitions

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> > The rest is still unwritten

> > I break tradition, sometimes my tries, are outside the lines

> > We've been conditioned to not make mistakes, but I can't live that way

> > Staring at the blank page before you

> > Open up the dirty window

> > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > Reaching for something in the distance

> > So close you can almost taste it

> > Release your inhibitions

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> >

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> > The rest is still unwritten

> >

> > Staring at the blank page before you

> > Open up the dirty window

> > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> >

> > Reaching for something in the distance

> > So close you can almost taste it

> > Release your inhibitions

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> >

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> > The rest is still unwritten

> >

> > Lilly

> >

> >

>

>

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Santosh Ji,

" The time of the day " (sun rise to Sunset) always varies due to chhnage in

solictices.This apart scientifically the earth roataion when decreases,it has

impact space as measuting units.

Scientifically,interaction of Man with Nature was always tied with his

explorations and development of tools.Today the pace of technology has increased

many folds to understand many things which has a serious impact on the 8th house

of ant person.

Your question earlier has compelled to go through Sarvardha Chintamani.As per

prof Rao man has lived even more than 1000 years.This according to him was

possible due to the Yogas.It is interesting to refer to Mooni Yogas,where Man

can have immense power to over come death.While sayin si he refers to hatha

Yogas.

Most of the Seers,Maunivaryas lived in the Nature by depending on nature

alone.It appears that even 'sun rays' when falls on man his hunger also get

reduced without taking consuming solids and liquids.These facts available in

litterature are far from verification and r subject to scietific inquiry.

Now 5111 year is going in kaliyuga.According to Sripati 5 years make one yuga

and 12 yugas make 60 years referring 20 names of years starting from

Parabhava.The cycles continues.

Shristi is difficult to coprehens and brahma is beyong our imagination.need to

admit our ignoarance for many facts of nature.

A good explanation and I concur with views. 

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Sat, 1/23/10, Santhosh <santhosh10 wrote:

 

 

Santhosh <santhosh10

Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

 

Saturday, January 23, 2010, 5:46 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear krishnan ji,

 

yes you are right. i have an interesting thought. it is not a grand discovery

but nevertheless  interesting.

 

Did you know that the tidal friction caused by moon is slowly reducing the

earth's rate of rotation?

This implies that the duration of time of earth day is increasing and is

directly proportional to time.

This has been astronomically worked out to increase in duration of day by about

1.8 x 10 (to the power of -3) seconds per century.

if we do some maths we can find that at some period in the history of earth,

2x10(to the power of 9) years ago, earth would have a 5 hour day instead of the

present 24 hours with the time take to revolve around sun also commensurately 

adjusted .

now according to discover channel, national geographic and theoritical science,

during this period there was no life on earth. but if there was life and if man

existed then, a 5 hour day means the maximum age of man would have been more

than 500 years calculating at the current astro rate of 120 years for a 24 hour

day.

we have read that our seers used to live for hundreds of years. could it be

somehow related to this?

this also means that in some long distance future, when the earth takes a long

long time to complete one day, our age may be in terms of a few years countable

on our fingers....

regards

santhosh

 

 

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 >

 

Sat, 23 January, 2010 3:53:09 PM

Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

 

 

Santosh Ji

If itihasas is any source of Knowledge,it is only after Vaman Avatara,the

begining of Yuga?But in terms of years,i do not want to guess.Since Dwapara Yuga

and Treta Yuga brought out in Itihasas have been glorified through Yuga

Purushas, the understanding to mankind of these is specific.Where as Kali Yuga

referred as the presnt Yuga is referred to as  Kali Yuga Maha Purusha Lord of

SEven Hills-Lord Venkateswara

The rest,I have to count on Narada Samhita for answering precisely.may be a an

issue to look forward from collective as the question was sharp and has

something else to unfold. 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Sat, 1/23/10, Santhosh <santhosh10> wrote:

 

Santhosh <santhosh10>

Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

 

Saturday, January 23, 2010, 4:59 AM

 

 

 

Dear Krishnan ji,

 

can you tell me when was this first yuga running in terms of earth year?

i have a specific reason to ask this. i will get back to you after i know the

above answer either from you or anybody else in the forum.

i am asking for any proof for it. i would just like to know as per

tradition/myth or as per purana when did the first yuga begin?

 

regards

santhosh

 

 

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 >

 

Sat, 23 January, 2010 3:11:16 PM

Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

 

 

Sir,

Transitional issues known through ''Yugas " have to be seen that every person

born is guided properly and the bad or evil that troubles and compels humans are

not left at the mercy of unknown/evil minds(asuras) by their hold on

Shristi.Scope for sanitisation is the perspective in different yugas so that

total protection from the Super Power is believed and trusted.

A meaningful approach that  " Aham " promotes " brih " In the 'shristi " is a Very

positive frame work.

Every ordinary person that can understand " Brahma " ''Shristi " need not be

necessarily find issues as complex.as actions'otherwise Known through Karmas

have to be performed in such a way that postive out look of shisht is

maintained.Options before him are to perform karmas with the faith in superpower

and to make an effort to reduce the burden that is carried of past karmas....

 Those bewildered with so many things around him have only to be grateful to

the God as an opportunity given to reform and develop.

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Sat, 1/23/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk> wrote:

 

Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk>

Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

 

Saturday, January 23, 2010, 3:28 AM

 

 

 

Dear Krishnanji,

 

The root for Brahma is " brih " meaning 'to grow'. A seed grows into a

tree; thoughts grow into action - fruit being the final outcome in both

cases.

 

Of course, so thin is the dividing line between free will and destiny

that it is not easy to differentiate between the two. One creates new

karma while the other is the result of previous karma.

 

Best wishes,

Amitabh Shastri

 

On 1/22/2010 12:12 AM, Vattem Krishnan wrote:

>

> Dear Shri Shastri Ji

> Infact you have given life to the thread.Infact a philosophical issue

> when considered as relevant to astral level,it changes the out look.

> and meaning of this topic.Kudos Sir,

> This is exactly we find find free will to operate. The Astral level

> implications making headaway through Lagna,pancham and navam is

> realisation of ambitions or fulfilling the ideals.

> That is how the story of Infosys,Reliance and Tata. Their sankalp is

> beyond their faculties that made them to deram,work and realise

> finally. It is matter of determination.

> The creation of universe in a metaphorical sense is brahma sankalp and

> it individual one can also think and make a meaningful creation to

> fulfil one'e ambition

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>

>

> --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk

> <amitabh_ shastri%40. co.uk>> wrote:

>

> Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk

> <amitabh_ shastri%40. co.uk>>

> Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

>

> <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> Cc: " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@

> <tigresslill y2005%40. com>>

> Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:42 AM

>

>

>

> " A thought held in your imagination, with focus and concentration,

> backed by the force of your will and desire will become imprinted deeply

> on your sub-conscious mind and take form on the astral level. With

> repeated visualizations it will gather energy and power till it

> eventually manifests itself as a physical reality. "

>

> Best wishes,

> Amitabh Shastri

>

> On 1/21/2010 4:11 PM, Lilly wrote:

> >

> >

> > It is said in the scripitures that BRAHMA created this universe with

> > his sankalap (mind/thoughts) ! At the beginning of the process of

> > creation Brahma created 11 Prajapatis who are believed to be the

> > fathers of the human race..He also created the 7 sages/ Saptarishi(7

> > heavenly bodies) to help him create the universe. However since all

> > these sons of his were born out of his mind rather than body, they are

> > called Manas Putras/mind- sons/spirits. .Brahma is also said to be son

> > of the Supreme Being, Brahman, and the female energy known as Prakrti

> > or Maya(By the way all this information is on Wikipedia)..

> >

> > I found a beautiful song called " Unwritten " that ties up well with

> > this whole BRAHMA's creation theory..It just got me thinking that if

> > Brahma can create his universe from his mind/thoughts; maybe we also

> > have a chance to create our own destiny!!

> >

> > " Unwritten "

> >

> > I am unwritten, can't read my mind, I'm undefined

> > I'm just beginning, the pen's in my hand, ending unplanned

> > Staring at the blank page before you

> > Open up the dirty window

> > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > Reaching for something in the distance

> > So close you can almost taste it

> > Release your inhibitions

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> > The rest is still unwritten

> > I break tradition, sometimes my tries, are outside the lines

> > We've been conditioned to not make mistakes, but I can't live that way

> > Staring at the blank page before you

> > Open up the dirty window

> > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > Reaching for something in the distance

> > So close you can almost taste it

> > Release your inhibitions

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> >

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> > The rest is still unwritten

> >

> > Staring at the blank page before you

> > Open up the dirty window

> > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> >

> > Reaching for something in the distance

> > So close you can almost taste it

> > Release your inhibitions

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> >

> > Feel the rain on your skin

> > No one else can feel it for you

> > Only you can let it in

> > No one else, no one else

> > Can speak the words on your lips

> > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > Live your life with arms wide open

> > Today is where your book begins

> > The rest is still unwritten

> >

> > Lilly

> >

> >

>

>

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The SEED/SPIRIT/ATMA/SOUL/ or simply " THOUGHTS " is where it all lies..There can

be no roots, tree, or the fruit, without the SEED!! And the SEED must also be

planted in the DHARNI first before the tree and fruits can even show up.

 

There is " MANAAN CHINTHAN MANTHAN " (churn on the mind) and there is

" VICHAAR SAGAAR MANTHAN " (churn on the ocean)!!

 

Lilly

 

 

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> Unless you remember clearly your last birth, Santhosh jee--

>

> WE ALL BEGIN NOW! Don't worry about the CLOCK or clock!!

>

> Regards,

>

> Rohiniranjan!

>

>

>

> , Santhosh <santhosh10@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rohini Ji,

> >

> > Ok let me rephrase. i wanted to know how many years back was the beginning.

like say 10000 years back, or 99000 years back etc. year zero is not helping me.

or it can behow many earth years it has been since year zero.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards

> > santhosh

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@>

> >

> > Sat, 23 January, 2010 3:40:23 PM

> > Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

> >

> >  

> > Why Santhosh jee -- That was the YEAR ZERO!

> > For MOST OF US! Please do scroll!

> >

> > OBVIOUSLY!

> >

> > Sznthoshjee,

> >

> > Actually, it is when personal reality began! The YEAR ZERO began when we

did! Look at your birtchart! Simple...!

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , Santhosh <santhosh10@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Krishnan ji,

> > >

> > > can you tell me when was this first yuga running in terms of earth year?

> > > i have a specific reason to ask this. i will get back to you after i know

the above answer either from you or anybody else in the forum.

> > > i am asking for any proof for it. i would just like to know as per

tradition/myth or as per purana when did the first yuga begin?

> > >

> > > regards

> > > santhosh

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

> > >

> > > Sat, 23 January, 2010 3:11:16 PM

> > > Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

> > >

> > >  

> > > Sir,

> > > Transitional issues known through ''Yugas " have to be seen that every

person born is guided properly and the bad or evil that troubles and compels

humans are not left at the mercy of unknown/evil minds(asuras) by their hold on

Shristi.Scope for sanitisation is the perspective in different yugas so that

total protection from the Super Power is believed and trusted.

> > > A meaningful approach that  " Aham " promotes " brih " In the 'shristi " is a

Very positive frame work.

> > > Every ordinary person that can understand " Brahma " ''Shristi " need not be

necessarily find issues as complex.as actions'otherwise Known through Karmas

have to be performed in such a way that postive out look of shisht is

maintained.Options before him are to perform karmas with the faith in superpower

and to make an effort to reduce the burden that is carried of past karmas..

> > >  Those bewildered with so many things around him have only to be

grateful to the God as an opportunity given to reform and develop.

> > >

> > > Vattem Krishnan

> > > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > > (For all counseling services)

> > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> > >  

> > >

> > > --- On Sat, 1/23/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk>

> > > Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

> > >

> > > Saturday, January 23, 2010, 3:28 AM

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > > Dear Krishnanji,

> > >

> > > The root for Brahma is " brih " meaning 'to grow'. A seed grows into a

> > > tree; thoughts grow into action - fruit being the final outcome in both

> > > cases.

> > >

> > > Of course, so thin is the dividing line between free will and destiny

> > > that it is not easy to differentiate between the two. One creates new

> > > karma while the other is the result of previous karma.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > > Amitabh Shastri

> > >

> > > On 1/22/2010 12:12 AM, Vattem Krishnan wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Shri Shastri Ji

> > > > Infact you have given life to the thread.Infact a philosophical issue

> > > > when considered as relevant to astral level,it changes the out look.

> > > > and meaning of this topic.Kudos Sir,

> > > > This is exactly we find find free will to operate. The Astral level

> > > > implications making headaway through Lagna,pancham and navam is

> > > > realisation of ambitions or fulfilling the ideals.

> > > > That is how the story of Infosys,Reliance and Tata. Their sankalp is

> > > > beyond their faculties that made them to deram,work and realise

> > > > finally. It is matter of determination.

> > > > The creation of universe in a metaphorical sense is brahma sankalp and

> > > > it individual one can also think and make a meaningful creation to

> > > > fulfil one'e ambition

> > > >

> > > > Vattem Krishnan

> > > > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > > > (For all counseling services)

> > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk

> > > > <amitabh_ shastri%40. co.uk>> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk

> > > > <amitabh_ shastri%40. co.uk>>

> > > > Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

> > > >

> > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > Cc: " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@

> > > > <tigresslill y2005%40. com>>

> > > > Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:42 AM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > " A thought held in your imagination, with focus and concentration,

> > > > backed by the force of your will and desire will become imprinted deeply

> > > > on your sub-conscious mind and take form on the astral level. With

> > > > repeated visualizations it will gather energy and power till it

> > > > eventually manifests itself as a physical reality. "

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > > Amitabh Shastri

> > > >

> > > > On 1/21/2010 4:11 PM, Lilly wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > It is said in the scripitures that BRAHMA created this universe with

> > > > > his sankalap (mind/thoughts) ! At the beginning of the process of

> > > > > creation Brahma created 11 Prajapatis who are believed to be the

> > > > > fathers of the human race..He also created the 7 sages/ Saptarishi(7

> > > > > heavenly bodies) to help him create the universe. However since all

> > > > > these sons of his were born out of his mind rather than body, they are

> > > > > called Manas Putras/mind- sons/spirits. .Brahma is also said to be son

> > > > > of the Supreme Being, Brahman, and the female energy known as Prakrti

> > > > > or Maya(By the way all this information is on Wikipedia)..

> > > > >

> > > > > I found a beautiful song called " Unwritten " that ties up well with

> > > > > this whole BRAHMA's creation theory..It just got me thinking that if

> > > > > Brahma can create his universe from his mind/thoughts; maybe we also

> > > > > have a chance to create our own destiny!!

> > > > >

> > > > > " Unwritten "

> > > > >

> > > > > I am unwritten, can't read my mind, I'm undefined

> > > > > I'm just beginning, the pen's in my hand, ending unplanned

> > > > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > > > Open up the dirty window

> > > > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > > > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > > > Release your inhibitions

> > > > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > > > Only you can let it in

> > > > > No one else, no one else

> > > > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > > > Today is where your book begins

> > > > > The rest is still unwritten

> > > > > I break tradition, sometimes my tries, are outside the lines

> > > > > We've been conditioned to not make mistakes, but I can't live that way

> > > > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > > > Open up the dirty window

> > > > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > > > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > > > Release your inhibitions

> > > > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > > > Only you can let it in

> > > > > No one else, no one else

> > > > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > > > Today is where your book begins

> > > > >

> > > > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > > > Only you can let it in

> > > > > No one else, no one else

> > > > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > > > Today is where your book begins

> > > > > The rest is still unwritten

> > > > >

> > > > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > > > Open up the dirty window

> > > > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > > > >

> > > > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > > > Release your inhibitions

> > > > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > > > Only you can let it in

> > > > > No one else, no one else

> > > > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > > > Today is where your book begins

> > > > >

> > > > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > > > Only you can let it in

> > > > > No one else, no one else

> > > > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > > > Today is where your book begins

> > > > > The rest is still unwritten

> > > > >

> > > > > Lilly

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Sagar manthan,only in case of exreem complexities.otherwise chintan or Manan

through manthan is only a daily affair and is often futile To do things not in

reach like shrishti need only Brhama Sankalp .

(Sankalp)Thought to " seed " Dharani(Shrishti)is essential and solicit " brahma " to

develop(rachi) to progress could be a sequential approach from human perspective

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Sat, 1/23/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote:

 

 

Lilly <tigresslilly2005

Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

 

Saturday, January 23, 2010, 9:43 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The SEED/SPIRIT/ ATMA/SOUL/ or simply " THOUGHTS " is where it all lies..There can

be no roots, tree, or the fruit, without the SEED!! And the SEED must also be

planted in the DHARNI first before the tree and fruits can even show up.

 

There is " MANAAN CHINTHAN MANTHAN " (churn on the mind) and there is

" VICHAAR SAGAAR MANTHAN " (churn on the ocean)!!

 

Lilly

 

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ....>

wrote:

>

> Unless you remember clearly your last birth, Santhosh jee--

>

> WE ALL BEGIN NOW! Don't worry about the CLOCK or clock!!

>

> Regards,

>

> Rohiniranjan!

>

>

>

> , Santhosh <santhosh10@ > wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rohini Ji,

> >

> > Ok let me rephrase. i wanted to know how many years back was the beginning.

like say 10000 years back, or 99000 years back etc. year zero is not helping me.

or it can behow many earth years it has been since year zero.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards

> > santhosh

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ >

> >

> > Sat, 23 January, 2010 3:40:23 PM

> > Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

> >

> >  

> > Why Santhosh jee -- That was the YEAR ZERO!

> > For MOST OF US! Please do scroll!

> >

> > OBVIOUSLY!

> >

> > Sznthoshjee,

> >

> > Actually, it is when personal reality began! The YEAR ZERO began when we

did! Look at your birtchart! Simple...!

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , Santhosh <santhosh10@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Krishnan ji,

> > >

> > > can you tell me when was this first yuga running in terms of earth year?

> > > i have a specific reason to ask this. i will get back to you after i know

the above answer either from you or anybody else in the forum.

> > > i am asking for any proof for it. i would just like to know as per

tradition/myth or as per purana when did the first yuga begin?

> > >

> > > regards

> > > santhosh

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

> > >

> > > Sat, 23 January, 2010 3:11:16 PM

> > > Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

> > >

> > >  

> > > Sir,

> > > Transitional issues known through ''Yugas " have to be seen that every

person born is guided properly and the bad or evil that troubles and compels

humans are not left at the mercy of unknown/evil minds(asuras) by their hold on

Shristi.Scope for sanitisation is the perspective in different yugas so that

total protection from the Super Power is believed and trusted.

> > > A meaningful approach that  " Aham " promotes " brih " In the 'shristi "

is a Very positive frame work.

> > > Every ordinary person that can understand " Brahma " ''Shristi " need not be

necessarily find issues as complex.as actions'otherwise Known through Karmas

have to be performed in such a way that postive out look of shisht is

maintained.Options before him are to perform karmas with the faith in superpower

and to make an effort to reduce the burden that is carried of past karmas..

> > >  Those bewildered with so many things around him have only to be

grateful to the God as an opportunity given to reform and develop.

> > >

> > > Vattem Krishnan

> > > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > > (For all counseling services)

> > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can

Control Them "

> > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> > >  

> > >

> > > --- On Sat, 1/23/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk>

> > > Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

> > >

> > > Saturday, January 23, 2010, 3:28 AM

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > > Dear Krishnanji,

> > >

> > > The root for Brahma is " brih " meaning 'to grow'. A seed grows into a

> > > tree; thoughts grow into action - fruit being the final outcome in both

> > > cases.

> > >

> > > Of course, so thin is the dividing line between free will and destiny

> > > that it is not easy to differentiate between the two. One creates new

> > > karma while the other is the result of previous karma.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > > Amitabh Shastri

> > >

> > > On 1/22/2010 12:12 AM, Vattem Krishnan wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Shri Shastri Ji

> > > > Infact you have given life to the thread.Infact a philosophical issue

> > > > when considered as relevant to astral level,it changes the out look..

> > > > and meaning of this topic.Kudos Sir,

> > > > This is exactly we find find free will to operate. The Astral level

> > > > implications making headaway through Lagna,pancham and navam is

> > > > realisation of ambitions or fulfilling the ideals.

> > > > That is how the story of Infosys,Reliance and Tata. Their sankalp is

> > > > beyond their faculties that made them to deram,work and realise

> > > > finally. It is matter of determination.

> > > > The creation of universe in a metaphorical sense is brahma sankalp and

> > > > it individual one can also think and make a meaningful creation to

> > > > fulfil one'e ambition

> > > >

> > > > Vattem Krishnan

> > > > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > > > (For all counseling services)

> > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk

> > > > <amitabh_ shastri%40. co.uk>> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk

> > > > <amitabh_ shastri%40. co.uk>>

> > > > Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

> > > >

> > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > Cc: " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@

> > > > <tigresslill y2005%40. com>>

> > > > Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:42 AM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > " A thought held in your imagination, with focus and concentration,

> > > > backed by the force of your will and desire will become imprinted deeply

> > > > on your sub-conscious mind and take form on the astral level. With

> > > > repeated visualizations it will gather energy and power till it

> > > > eventually manifests itself as a physical reality. "

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > > Amitabh Shastri

> > > >

> > > > On 1/21/2010 4:11 PM, Lilly wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > It is said in the scripitures that BRAHMA created this universe with

> > > > > his sankalap (mind/thoughts) ! At the beginning of the process of

> > > > > creation Brahma created 11 Prajapatis who are believed to be the

> > > > > fathers of the human race..He also created the 7 sages/ Saptarishi(7

> > > > > heavenly bodies) to help him create the universe. However since all

> > > > > these sons of his were born out of his mind rather than body, they are

> > > > > called Manas Putras/mind- sons/spirits. .Brahma is also said to be son

> > > > > of the Supreme Being, Brahman, and the female energy known as Prakrti

> > > > > or Maya(By the way all this information is on Wikipedia)..

> > > > >

> > > > > I found a beautiful song called " Unwritten " that ties up well with

> > > > > this whole BRAHMA's creation theory..It just got me thinking that if

> > > > > Brahma can create his universe from his mind/thoughts; maybe we also

> > > > > have a chance to create our own destiny!!

> > > > >

> > > > > " Unwritten "

> > > > >

> > > > > I am unwritten, can't read my mind, I'm undefined

> > > > > I'm just beginning, the pen's in my hand, ending unplanned

> > > > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > > > Open up the dirty window

> > > > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > > > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > > > Release your inhibitions

> > > > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > > > Only you can let it in

> > > > > No one else, no one else

> > > > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > > > Today is where your book begins

> > > > > The rest is still unwritten

> > > > > I break tradition, sometimes my tries, are outside the lines

> > > > > We've been conditioned to not make mistakes, but I can't live that way

> > > > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > > > Open up the dirty window

> > > > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > > > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > > > Release your inhibitions

> > > > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > > > Only you can let it in

> > > > > No one else, no one else

> > > > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > > > Today is where your book begins

> > > > >

> > > > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > > > Only you can let it in

> > > > > No one else, no one else

> > > > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > > > Today is where your book begins

> > > > > The rest is still unwritten

> > > > >

> > > > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > > > Open up the dirty window

> > > > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > > > >

> > > > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > > > Release your inhibitions

> > > > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > > > Only you can let it in

> > > > > No one else, no one else

> > > > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > > > Today is where your book begins

> > > > >

> > > > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > > > Only you can let it in

> > > > > No one else, no one else

> > > > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > > > Today is where your book begins

> > > > > The rest is still unwritten

> > > > >

> > > > > Lilly

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Very interesting fact Santhosh jee. But is it a linear (monotonic) change or is

it cyclical like the annual rate of precession (of Synetic vernal point)? In

other words does the slowing fluctuates over a very very long time?

 

By the way, and this could be arguable, I believe Usha Sashi (?) indicates the

abbreviated ahargana as 74640 days before 1-1-2010. Lahiri gives the first date

of current series as 18 feb 3102 BCE.

 

You will have to take it from there...

 

RR_,

 

, Santhosh <santhosh10 wrote:

>

> Dear krishnan ji,

>

> yes you are right. i have an interesting thought. it is not a grand discovery

but nevertheless interesting.

>

> Did you know that the tidal friction caused by moon is slowly reducing the

earth's rate of rotation?

> This implies that the duration of time of earth day is increasing and is

directly proportional to time.

> This has been astronomically worked out to increase in duration of day by

about 1.8 x 10 (to the power of -3) seconds per century.

> if we do some maths we can find that at some period in the history of earth,

2x10(to the power of 9) years ago, earth would have a 5 hour day instead of the

present 24 hours with the time take to revolve around sun also

commensurately adjusted .

> now according to discover channel, national geographic and theoritical

science, during this period there was no life on earth. but if there was life

and if man existed then, a 5 hour day means the maximum age of man would have

been more than 500 years calculating at the current astro rate of 120 years for

a 24 hour day.

> we have read that our seers used to live for hundreds of years. could it be

somehow related to this?

> this also means that in some long distance future, when the earth takes a long

long time to complete one day, our age may be in terms of a few years countable

on our fingers....

> regards

> santhosh

>

>  

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99

>

> Sat, 23 January, 2010 3:53:09 PM

> Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

>

>  

> Santosh Ji

> If itihasas is any source of Knowledge,it is only after Vaman Avatara,the

begining of Yuga?But in terms of years,i do not want to guess.Since Dwapara Yuga

and Treta Yuga brought out in Itihasas have been glorified through Yuga

Purushas, the understanding to mankind of these is specific.Where as Kali Yuga

referred as the presnt Yuga is referred to as  Kali Yuga Maha Purusha Lord of

SEven Hills-Lord Venkateswara

> The rest,I have to count on Narada Samhita for answering precisely.may be a an

issue to look forward from collective as the question was sharp and has

something else to unfold. 

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>  

>

> --- On Sat, 1/23/10, Santhosh <santhosh10 > wrote:

>

> Santhosh <santhosh10 >

> Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

>

> Saturday, January 23, 2010, 4:59 AM

>

>  

>

> Dear Krishnan ji,

>

> can you tell me when was this first yuga running in terms of earth year?

> i have a specific reason to ask this. i will get back to you after i know the

above answer either from you or anybody else in the forum.

> i am asking for any proof for it. i would just like to know as per

tradition/myth or as per purana when did the first yuga begin?

>

> regards

> santhosh

>

>  

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 >

>

> Sat, 23 January, 2010 3:11:16 PM

> Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

>

>  

> Sir,

> Transitional issues known through ''Yugas " have to be seen that every person

born is guided properly and the bad or evil that troubles and compels humans are

not left at the mercy of unknown/evil minds(asuras) by their hold on

Shristi.Scope for sanitisation is the perspective in different yugas so that

total protection from the Super Power is believed and trusted.

> A meaningful approach that  " Aham " promotes " brih " In the 'shristi " is a Very

positive frame work.

> Every ordinary person that can understand " Brahma " ''Shristi " need not be

necessarily find issues as complex.as actions'otherwise Known through Karmas

have to be performed in such a way that postive out look of shisht is

maintained.Options before him are to perform karmas with the faith in superpower

and to make an effort to reduce the burden that is carried of past karmas...

>  Those bewildered with so many things around him have only to be grateful to

the God as an opportunity given to reform and develop.

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>  

>

> --- On Sat, 1/23/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk> wrote:

>

> Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk>

> Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

>

> Saturday, January 23, 2010, 3:28 AM

>

>  

>

> Dear Krishnanji,

>

> The root for Brahma is " brih " meaning 'to grow'. A seed grows into a

> tree; thoughts grow into action - fruit being the final outcome in both

> cases.

>

> Of course, so thin is the dividing line between free will and destiny

> that it is not easy to differentiate between the two. One creates new

> karma while the other is the result of previous karma.

>

> Best wishes,

> Amitabh Shastri

>

> On 1/22/2010 12:12 AM, Vattem Krishnan wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shri Shastri Ji

> > Infact you have given life to the thread.Infact a philosophical issue

> > when considered as relevant to astral level,it changes the out look.

> > and meaning of this topic.Kudos Sir,

> > This is exactly we find find free will to operate. The Astral level

> > implications making headaway through Lagna,pancham and navam is

> > realisation of ambitions or fulfilling the ideals.

> > That is how the story of Infosys,Reliance and Tata. Their sankalp is

> > beyond their faculties that made them to deram,work and realise

> > finally. It is matter of determination.

> > The creation of universe in a metaphorical sense is brahma sankalp and

> > it individual one can also think and make a meaningful creation to

> > fulfil one'e ambition

> >

> > Vattem Krishnan

> > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > (For all counseling services)

> > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> >

> >

> > --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk

> > <amitabh_ shastri%40. co.uk>> wrote:

> >

> > Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk

> > <amitabh_ shastri%40. co.uk>>

> > Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi

> >

> > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > Cc: " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@

> > <tigresslill y2005%40. com>>

> > Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:42 AM

> >

> >

> >

> > " A thought held in your imagination, with focus and concentration,

> > backed by the force of your will and desire will become imprinted deeply

> > on your sub-conscious mind and take form on the astral level. With

> > repeated visualizations it will gather energy and power till it

> > eventually manifests itself as a physical reality. "

> >

> > Best wishes,

> > Amitabh Shastri

> >

> > On 1/21/2010 4:11 PM, Lilly wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > It is said in the scripitures that BRAHMA created this universe with

> > > his sankalap (mind/thoughts) ! At the beginning of the process of

> > > creation Brahma created 11 Prajapatis who are believed to be the

> > > fathers of the human race..He also created the 7 sages/ Saptarishi(7

> > > heavenly bodies) to help him create the universe. However since all

> > > these sons of his were born out of his mind rather than body, they are

> > > called Manas Putras/mind- sons/spirits. .Brahma is also said to be son

> > > of the Supreme Being, Brahman, and the female energy known as Prakrti

> > > or Maya(By the way all this information is on Wikipedia)..

> > >

> > > I found a beautiful song called " Unwritten " that ties up well with

> > > this whole BRAHMA's creation theory..It just got me thinking that if

> > > Brahma can create his universe from his mind/thoughts; maybe we also

> > > have a chance to create our own destiny!!

> > >

> > > " Unwritten "

> > >

> > > I am unwritten, can't read my mind, I'm undefined

> > > I'm just beginning, the pen's in my hand, ending unplanned

> > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > Open up the dirty window

> > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > Release your inhibitions

> > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > Only you can let it in

> > > No one else, no one else

> > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > Today is where your book begins

> > > The rest is still unwritten

> > > I break tradition, sometimes my tries, are outside the lines

> > > We've been conditioned to not make mistakes, but I can't live that way

> > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > Open up the dirty window

> > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > Release your inhibitions

> > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > Only you can let it in

> > > No one else, no one else

> > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > Today is where your book begins

> > >

> > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > Only you can let it in

> > > No one else, no one else

> > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > Today is where your book begins

> > > The rest is still unwritten

> > >

> > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > Open up the dirty window

> > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > >

> > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > Release your inhibitions

> > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > Only you can let it in

> > > No one else, no one else

> > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > Today is where your book begins

> > >

> > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > Only you can let it in

> > > No one else, no one else

> > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > Today is where your book begins

> > > The rest is still unwritten

> > >

> > > Lilly

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

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