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Hello Mr. Phulvani

 

Thanks for birthday greetings.

We do not consider Pratyantar Dasa in SA.

 

Best wishes.

 

 

 

-

" teekamphulvani " <teekamphulvani

 

Thursday, September 13, 2007 11:40 AM

Re: Does we consider Pratyantar Dasa in SA

 

 

Dear Guruji,

 

I wish you a very Happy Birthday and wish

for the best of health and happiness.

and thanks for your wishes.

we always need your blessing.

 

 

Thanks.

Teekam

 

 

, <siha wrote:

>

>

> Hello Teekam,

>

> Congratulations for engagement and best wishes for marriage

ceremony. Keep

> on doing the propitiatory remedies. The marriage is coming up due

to astral

> remedies and not because of the pratyantar dasa.

>

> Best wishes.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> -

> " teekamphulvani " <teekamphulvani

>

> Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:31 AM

> Does we consider Pratyantar Dasa in SA

>

>

> Hello Professor,

>

> First of all i wish to thank you for developing kavach concept.

> my parents were searching for my life partner from last one year.

> after wearing kavach within a month we got a good match.my engagement

> was on 17 aug. and marriage is fixed on 26th of Nov. it is just like

> " chat magani pat byaha " .

> in my chart sun has exact aspect on 7th house. my engagement was in

> Pratyantar of Sun.and marriage will be in Pratyantar of Moon as Moon

> is the primary significant for marriage in case of sagitarrius Asc.

> can we consider Pratyantar in this case.

>

> Thanks,

> Teekam

>

>

>

>

>

>

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// it is clear that Bhagya has got

its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what

is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the

Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations.

The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore

the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of

the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes

kundan. Please take care of your Karma. //

 

Beautiful Post.

Pl send above to all Forums. People should realise

that " Karma " is " Pradhan " . Nothing can

substitute that. Without " Karma " all " Yogas " are

defunct. Marriage written for native, but if he

does not sit for saath pheras, how can the

marriage be performed ? Children written in

destniy, but if native does not conjugate , then

how children will come ? Just as in these cases

God did not come down to do all this, neither

" Bhagya " , because " Bhagya " is not a physical living

entity, but it is just a " Promise " which can only be

met with appropriate corresponding " Karma " .

Sam way all great Gajkesari Yogas, Dhana Yogas,

Panch mahapurusha Yogas, Rajyogas,

etcetra, stand to nought

if a native sits doing nothing, but just spending

his time leisurely eating free food given by Parents,

Uncle,or else waiting for destiny to arrive.

 

Your post was a lovely treat to read.

 

Good.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

, " S.C. Kursija " <sckursija wrote:

>

> Dera members,

> To day, October 12, 2007 is the beginning of Durga

> Puja. The Navaratri begins. She is Maha-Shakti or

> Supreme Energy. She manifests chiefly in three forms:

> Maha-Saraswati, Maha-Lakshmi and Maha-Kali: Creation,

> Conservation and Annihilation, i.e. Birth, Sustenance

> and Death, the three faces of life. By worshiping

> Durga, we worship the cycle of life. In Durga

> Saptshati, the Maha-Shakti has been worshiped as " O

> Mother Durga, you remove all fear of those who

> remember you in trouble. You bestow all your wisdom,

> compassion in your heart to those who remember you in

> their happiness. You are the dispeller of poverty,

> pain and fear. "

> May Mother Durga bless you and remove your poverty,

> pain and fear. She may grant you knowledge, wealth and

> happiness.

>

> According to my little knowledge, the energy

> represents activities, the Karma. Our sages have made

> 10th house, Karma, as the most powerful Kendra among

> the Kendra. The 9th house, Bhagya, is 12th to 10th,

> Karma, the negation of Karma. If the lords of 10th and

> 9th combined in auspicious house they produce most

> powerful Raja-Yoga But it is clear that Bhagya has got

> its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what

> is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the

> Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations.

> The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore

> the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of

> the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes

> kundan. Please take care of your Karma.

> Mother Durga may guide you through the cycle of life

> and bless you.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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____

> Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket:

mail, news, photos & more.

> http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC

>

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Bhaskar ji, S.C. Kursija

and others

Namaskar

 

Excellent

Excellent Sir,

You are at the right point.

Planets and stars effect our mind (Maan)by some force.

Moon represent our mind.

Planets create fear,terror, hesitation, attraction

and many others feelings.

they press us to do wrong deeds by affecting our mind.

Planets create affection and hatred in the mind for

others and accordingly we treat them.

Planets gives us new ideas in our mind and accordingly

we do work.

 

BY MIND WE DO KARMA

Now Bhagya is decided by the planets.These planets

effect our mind and with this affected mind we do the Karma.

Then how BHAGYA AND KARMA ARE DIFFERENT.

Please clarify

Through some light on this point. Iam confussed.

Thanks

Dhananjay Gupta.

 

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> // it is clear that Bhagya has got

> its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what

> is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the

> Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations.

> The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore

> the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of

> the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes

> kundan. Please take care of your Karma. //

>

> Beautiful Post.

> Pl send above to all Forums. People should realise

> that " Karma " is " Pradhan " . Nothing can

> substitute that. Without " Karma " all " Yogas " are

> defunct. Marriage written for native, but if he

> does not sit for saath pheras, how can the

> marriage be performed ? Children written in

> destniy, but if native does not conjugate , then

> how children will come ? Just as in these cases

> God did not come down to do all this, neither

> " Bhagya " , because " Bhagya " is not a physical living

> entity, but it is just a " Promise " which can only be

> met with appropriate corresponding " Karma " .

> Sam way all great Gajkesari Yogas, Dhana Yogas,

> Panch mahapurusha Yogas, Rajyogas,

> etcetra, stand to nought

> if a native sits doing nothing, but just spending

> his time leisurely eating free food given by Parents,

> Uncle,or else waiting for destiny to arrive.

>

> Your post was a lovely treat to read.

>

> Good.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

> , " S.C. Kursija " <sckursija@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dera members,

> > To day, October 12, 2007 is the beginning of Durga

> > Puja. The Navaratri begins. She is Maha-Shakti or

> > Supreme Energy. She manifests chiefly in three forms:

> > Maha-Saraswati, Maha-Lakshmi and Maha-Kali: Creation,

> > Conservation and Annihilation, i.e. Birth, Sustenance

> > and Death, the three faces of life. By worshiping

> > Durga, we worship the cycle of life. In Durga

> > Saptshati, the Maha-Shakti has been worshiped as " O

> > Mother Durga, you remove all fear of those who

> > remember you in trouble. You bestow all your wisdom,

> > compassion in your heart to those who remember you in

> > their happiness. You are the dispeller of poverty,

> > pain and fear. "

> > May Mother Durga bless you and remove your poverty,

> > pain and fear. She may grant you knowledge, wealth and

> > happiness.

> >

> > According to my little knowledge, the energy

> > represents activities, the Karma. Our sages have made

> > 10th house, Karma, as the most powerful Kendra among

> > the Kendra. The 9th house, Bhagya, is 12th to 10th,

> > Karma, the negation of Karma. If the lords of 10th and

> > 9th combined in auspicious house they produce most

> > powerful Raja-Yoga But it is clear that Bhagya has got

> > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what

> > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the

> > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations.

> > The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore

> > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of

> > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes

> > kundan. Please take care of your Karma.

> > Mother Durga may guide you through the cycle of life

> > and bless you.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

____________________

______________

> > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your

pocket:

> mail, news, photos & more.

> > http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC

> >

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Respected Bhaskar,

Thanks.

--- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

 

> // it is clear that Bhagya has got

> its limitations. One cannot get more or less than

> what

> is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the

> Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations.

> The more you do Karma the more you will get.

> Therefore

> the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides

> of

> the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold

> becomes

> kundan. Please take care of your Karma. //

>

> Beautiful Post.

> Pl send above to all Forums. People should realise

> that " Karma " is " Pradhan " . Nothing can

> substitute that. Without " Karma " all " Yogas " are

> defunct. Marriage written for native, but if he

> does not sit for saath pheras, how can the

> marriage be performed ? Children written in

> destniy, but if native does not conjugate , then

> how children will come ? Just as in these cases

> God did not come down to do all this, neither

> " Bhagya " , because " Bhagya " is not a physical living

> entity, but it is just a " Promise " which can only be

> met with appropriate corresponding " Karma " .

> Sam way all great Gajkesari Yogas, Dhana Yogas,

> Panch mahapurusha Yogas, Rajyogas,

> etcetra, stand to nought

> if a native sits doing nothing, but just spending

> his time leisurely eating free food given by

> Parents,

> Uncle,or else waiting for destiny to arrive.

>

> Your post was a lovely treat to read.

>

> Good.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

> , " S.C. Kursija "

> <sckursija wrote:

> >

> > Dera members,

> > To day, October 12, 2007 is the beginning of Durga

> > Puja. The Navaratri begins. She is Maha-Shakti or

> > Supreme Energy. She manifests chiefly in three

> forms:

> > Maha-Saraswati, Maha-Lakshmi and Maha-Kali:

> Creation,

> > Conservation and Annihilation, i.e. Birth,

> Sustenance

> > and Death, the three faces of life. By worshiping

> > Durga, we worship the cycle of life. In Durga

> > Saptshati, the Maha-Shakti has been worshiped as

> " O

> > Mother Durga, you remove all fear of those who

> > remember you in trouble. You bestow all your

> wisdom,

> > compassion in your heart to those who remember you

> in

> > their happiness. You are the dispeller of poverty,

> > pain and fear. "

> > May Mother Durga bless you and remove your

> poverty,

> > pain and fear. She may grant you knowledge, wealth

> and

> > happiness.

> >

> > According to my little knowledge, the energy

> > represents activities, the Karma. Our sages have

> made

> > 10th house, Karma, as the most powerful Kendra

> among

> > the Kendra. The 9th house, Bhagya, is 12th to

> 10th,

> > Karma, the negation of Karma. If the lords of 10th

> and

> > 9th combined in auspicious house they produce most

> > powerful Raja-Yoga But it is clear that Bhagya has

> got

> > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than

> what

> > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the

> > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any

> limitations.

> > The more you do Karma the more you will get.

> Therefore

> > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two

> sides of

> > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold

> becomes

> > kundan. Please take care of your Karma.

> > Mother Durga may guide you through the cycle of

> life

> > and bless you.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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> > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the

> Internet in your pocket:

> mail, news, photos & more.

> > http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC

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Dear Dhananjay,

 

You need a Krishna to guide you.

I like your arguments.

A Planet is known as Graha, means

ghar mein grahanam karna (To house)

aur grasit karna. (In the mind-to envelope)

They do have their influence on our minds.

But only till the Dridha Destiny allows.

Not more than that. This is the play of Maya,

but only that Maya which we ourselves attract

through our Karmas of present or Past Births

 

Bhagya is that part of Maya which we have

attracted , known as - Individual destiny.

The Dridha Karma (Strong actions), of past

and present Births will attract strong Results

( Dridha Bhagya) evil or Good,

from which we can have no escape.

For example persons born blind,lame, or

who loose parents early, are all paying

for past evil Dridha Karmas.

Persons born in rich families, or born in

poor ones, but grow rich overnight, due

to Lotteries etc, persons who get good

looking and Loving wives, healthy bodies

without sickness etc. are all earning

through their Dridha good karmas and

attract Dridh Saubhagya.

 

Karma is different.

The same people above who got good

loving wives, if yet ill treat their good and

caring wives, are now doing kukarma or

evil deeds.

The same people who are born lame but

open hospitals or care centres for other

handicapped brethren are into sukarma.

That is the Karma, which is in our

hands, and the previous one which

we received on our own , is our

Bhagya.

 

The Bhagya may have given you a good Liver

in Your body, but through your own Karmas, you can

drink daily and spoil it. That is Karma.

The Bhagya may have given you a healthy body, but

you may use it to terrorise people or small

family members. That is Karma.

 

Planets never teach or put evil ideas in our mind.

It is our own evil thoughts which makes us commit

wrong actions. Planets do not teach anyone

to rape, or plant Bombs and kill innocent

people. Planets do not teach us to eye our

neighbours beautiful wife, it is our own dirty mind

and weak sanskaar which compels us so.

God has given us " Discrimination

power " or buddhi , One may use it with

his own God gifted free will, in either

subuddhi or durbuddhi.

 

The planets would only influence you till

the Fate written in your destiny is not met,

and once that is met, You are free to

act and do naveen Karma.

 

I can continue, and I want to, but this

mail would become very long.

So lets rest now.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " gupta089 " <gupta089 wrote:

>

> Bhaskar ji, S.C. Kursija

> and others

> Namaskar

>

> Excellent

> Excellent Sir,

> You are at the right point.

> Planets and stars effect our mind (Maan)by some force.

> Moon represent our mind.

> Planets create fear,terror, hesitation, attraction

> and many others feelings.

> they press us to do wrong deeds by affecting our mind.

> Planets create affection and hatred in the mind for

> others and accordingly we treat them.

> Planets gives us new ideas in our mind and accordingly

> we do work.

>

> BY MIND WE DO KARMA

> Now Bhagya is decided by the planets.These planets

> effect our mind and with this affected mind we do the Karma.

> Then how BHAGYA AND KARMA ARE DIFFERENT.

> Please clarify

> Through some light on this point. Iam confussed.

> Thanks

> Dhananjay Gupta.

>

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > // it is clear that Bhagya has got

> > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what

> > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the

> > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations.

> > The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore

> > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of

> > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes

> > kundan. Please take care of your Karma. //

> >

> > Beautiful Post.

> > Pl send above to all Forums. People should realise

> > that " Karma " is " Pradhan " . Nothing can

> > substitute that. Without " Karma " all " Yogas " are

> > defunct. Marriage written for native, but if he

> > does not sit for saath pheras, how can the

> > marriage be performed ? Children written in

> > destniy, but if native does not conjugate , then

> > how children will come ? Just as in these cases

> > God did not come down to do all this, neither

> > " Bhagya " , because " Bhagya " is not a physical living

> > entity, but it is just a " Promise " which can only be

> > met with appropriate corresponding " Karma " .

> > Sam way all great Gajkesari Yogas, Dhana Yogas,

> > Panch mahapurusha Yogas, Rajyogas,

> > etcetra, stand to nought

> > if a native sits doing nothing, but just spending

> > his time leisurely eating free food given by Parents,

> > Uncle,or else waiting for destiny to arrive.

> >

> > Your post was a lovely treat to read.

> >

> > Good.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> > , " S.C. Kursija " <sckursija@>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dera members,

> > > To day, October 12, 2007 is the beginning of Durga

> > > Puja. The Navaratri begins. She is Maha-Shakti or

> > > Supreme Energy. She manifests chiefly in three forms:

> > > Maha-Saraswati, Maha-Lakshmi and Maha-Kali: Creation,

> > > Conservation and Annihilation, i.e. Birth, Sustenance

> > > and Death, the three faces of life. By worshiping

> > > Durga, we worship the cycle of life. In Durga

> > > Saptshati, the Maha-Shakti has been worshiped as " O

> > > Mother Durga, you remove all fear of those who

> > > remember you in trouble. You bestow all your wisdom,

> > > compassion in your heart to those who remember you in

> > > their happiness. You are the dispeller of poverty,

> > > pain and fear. "

> > > May Mother Durga bless you and remove your poverty,

> > > pain and fear. She may grant you knowledge, wealth and

> > > happiness.

> > >

> > > According to my little knowledge, the energy

> > > represents activities, the Karma. Our sages have made

> > > 10th house, Karma, as the most powerful Kendra among

> > > the Kendra. The 9th house, Bhagya, is 12th to 10th,

> > > Karma, the negation of Karma. If the lords of 10th and

> > > 9th combined in auspicious house they produce most

> > > powerful Raja-Yoga But it is clear that Bhagya has got

> > > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what

> > > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the

> > > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations.

> > > The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore

> > > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of

> > > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes

> > > kundan. Please take care of your Karma.

> > > Mother Durga may guide you through the cycle of life

> > > and bless you.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> ____________________

> ______________

> > > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your

> pocket:

> > mail, news, photos & more.

> > > http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC

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> >

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BHASKAR JI

NAMASKAR

Thanks Sir,

I know that you only,can tell answers to such types

of questions.

Your explaination is correct.Iam deeply thinking on

it.Please tell me what is the meaning of the word

" Dridha "

Iam obliged to you.I will feel thankfull to you

if you continue the message on Karma and Bhagya

 

REGARDS

Dhananjay

 

 

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Dhananjay,

>

> You need a Krishna to guide you.

> I like your arguments.

> A Planet is known as Graha, means

> ghar mein grahanam karna (To house)

> aur grasit karna. (In the mind-to envelope)

> They do have their influence on our minds.

> But only till the Dridha Destiny allows.

> Not more than that. This is the play of Maya,

> but only that Maya which we ourselves attract

> through our Karmas of present or Past Births

>

> Bhagya is that part of Maya which we have

> attracted , known as - Individual destiny.

> The Dridha Karma (Strong actions), of past

> and present Births will attract strong Results

> ( Dridha Bhagya) evil or Good,

> from which we can have no escape.

> For example persons born blind,lame, or

> who loose parents early, are all paying

> for past evil Dridha Karmas.

> Persons born in rich families, or born in

> poor ones, but grow rich overnight, due

> to Lotteries etc, persons who get good

> looking and Loving wives, healthy bodies

> without sickness etc. are all earning

> through their Dridha good karmas and

> attract Dridh Saubhagya.

>

> Karma is different.

> The same people above who got good

> loving wives, if yet ill treat their good and

> caring wives, are now doing kukarma or

> evil deeds.

> The same people who are born lame but

> open hospitals or care centres for other

> handicapped brethren are into sukarma.

> That is the Karma, which is in our

> hands, and the previous one which

> we received on our own , is our

> Bhagya.

>

> The Bhagya may have given you a good Liver

> in Your body, but through your own Karmas, you can

> drink daily and spoil it. That is Karma.

> The Bhagya may have given you a healthy body, but

> you may use it to terrorise people or small

> family members. That is Karma.

>

> Planets never teach or put evil ideas in our mind.

> It is our own evil thoughts which makes us commit

> wrong actions. Planets do not teach anyone

> to rape, or plant Bombs and kill innocent

> people. Planets do not teach us to eye our

> neighbours beautiful wife, it is our own dirty mind

> and weak sanskaar which compels us so.

> God has given us " Discrimination

> power " or buddhi , One may use it with

> his own God gifted free will, in either

> subuddhi or durbuddhi.

>

> The planets would only influence you till

> the Fate written in your destiny is not met,

> and once that is met, You are free to

> act and do naveen Karma.

>

> I can continue, and I want to, but this

> mail would become very long.

> So lets rest now.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

, " gupta089 " <gupta089@> wrote:

> >

> > Bhaskar ji, S.C. Kursija

> > and others

> > Namaskar

> >

> > Excellent

> > Excellent Sir,

> > You are at the right point.

> > Planets and stars effect our mind (Maan)by some force.

> > Moon represent our mind.

> > Planets create fear,terror, hesitation, attraction

> > and many others feelings.

> > they press us to do wrong deeds by affecting our mind.

> > Planets create affection and hatred in the mind for

> > others and accordingly we treat them.

> > Planets gives us new ideas in our mind and accordingly

> > we do work.

> >

> > BY MIND WE DO KARMA

> > Now Bhagya is decided by the planets.These planets

> > effect our mind and with this affected mind we do the Karma.

> > Then how BHAGYA AND KARMA ARE DIFFERENT.

> > Please clarify

> > Through some light on this point. Iam confussed.

> > Thanks

> > Dhananjay Gupta.

> >

> >

> > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > // it is clear that Bhagya has got

> > > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what

> > > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the

> > > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations.

> > > The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore

> > > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of

> > > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes

> > > kundan. Please take care of your Karma. //

> > >

> > > Beautiful Post.

> > > Pl send above to all Forums. People should realise

> > > that " Karma " is " Pradhan " . Nothing can

> > > substitute that. Without " Karma " all " Yogas " are

> > > defunct. Marriage written for native, but if he

> > > does not sit for saath pheras, how can the

> > > marriage be performed ? Children written in

> > > destniy, but if native does not conjugate , then

> > > how children will come ? Just as in these cases

> > > God did not come down to do all this, neither

> > > " Bhagya " , because " Bhagya " is not a physical living

> > > entity, but it is just a " Promise " which can only be

> > > met with appropriate corresponding " Karma " .

> > > Sam way all great Gajkesari Yogas, Dhana Yogas,

> > > Panch mahapurusha Yogas, Rajyogas,

> > > etcetra, stand to nought

> > > if a native sits doing nothing, but just spending

> > > his time leisurely eating free food given by Parents,

> > > Uncle,or else waiting for destiny to arrive.

> > >

> > > Your post was a lovely treat to read.

> > >

> > > Good.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > > , " S.C. Kursija "

<sckursija@>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dera members,

> > > > To day, October 12, 2007 is the beginning of Durga

> > > > Puja. The Navaratri begins. She is Maha-Shakti or

> > > > Supreme Energy. She manifests chiefly in three forms:

> > > > Maha-Saraswati, Maha-Lakshmi and Maha-Kali: Creation,

> > > > Conservation and Annihilation, i.e. Birth, Sustenance

> > > > and Death, the three faces of life. By worshiping

> > > > Durga, we worship the cycle of life. In Durga

> > > > Saptshati, the Maha-Shakti has been worshiped as " O

> > > > Mother Durga, you remove all fear of those who

> > > > remember you in trouble. You bestow all your wisdom,

> > > > compassion in your heart to those who remember you in

> > > > their happiness. You are the dispeller of poverty,

> > > > pain and fear. "

> > > > May Mother Durga bless you and remove your poverty,

> > > > pain and fear. She may grant you knowledge, wealth and

> > > > happiness.

> > > >

> > > > According to my little knowledge, the energy

> > > > represents activities, the Karma. Our sages have made

> > > > 10th house, Karma, as the most powerful Kendra among

> > > > the Kendra. The 9th house, Bhagya, is 12th to 10th,

> > > > Karma, the negation of Karma. If the lords of 10th and

> > > > 9th combined in auspicious house they produce most

> > > > powerful Raja-Yoga But it is clear that Bhagya has got

> > > > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what

> > > > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the

> > > > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations.

> > > > The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore

> > > > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of

> > > > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes

> > > > kundan. Please take care of your Karma.

> > > > Mother Durga may guide you through the cycle of life

> > > > and bless you.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Dear Guptaji,

 

Namaste,

 

" Dridha " means strong, or determined,

or strong willed, as in " Dridha Nischay " .

Dridha is synonymous with " Bhishma " or

irrevocable or something which is bound

to occur, or happen, or " decided " .

 

Example of difference between Bhagya and

Karma.

 

My Bhagya gives me to eat, without having to

work for it, because of my ancestral property

and investments made by my forefathers, which

keep on giving monthly returns for sustenance.

So actually I do not have to work for basic

living.

But, if I yet work everyday,and add to the

returns already coming without my inputs

of efforts, then this work would become

worship or Karma. Over Karma,

we have a great free will given by God.

This should not be wasted, which in other

words means,that time is very precious and must

not be littered away, but put to useful use.

This was good Karma accentuating the good Bhagya.

 

My Bhagya yesterday gave me a chance to earn

Rs.2500-, when I gave some predictions to

a lady who offered to deposit double this

amount, in my bank a/c., but I littered

the Bhagya away, by trying to impress her,and

asked her to wait till those predictions come

true in 3 months time, and then deposit the

Fees. This was bad karma working against

the Good Bhagya (As of now apparently).

 

You may replicate the above examples with instances

from your own Life, when a Bad Bhagya was given

a right approach, while a good Bhagya was approached

wrongly.Also Good Bhagya with Good Karma, and bad

Bhagya made worser with Bad Karmas.

 

Thus you may understand the working of Bhagya

and Karma.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

, " gupta089 " <gupta089 wrote:

>

> BHASKAR JI

> NAMASKAR

> Thanks Sir,

> I know that you only,can tell answers to such types

> of questions.

> Your explaination is correct.Iam deeply thinking on

> it.Please tell me what is the meaning of the word

> " Dridha "

> Iam obliged to you.I will feel thankfull to you

> if you continue the message on Karma and Bhagya

>

> REGARDS

> Dhananjay

>

>

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Dhananjay,

> >

> > You need a Krishna to guide you.

> > I like your arguments.

> > A Planet is known as Graha, means

> > ghar mein grahanam karna (To house)

> > aur grasit karna. (In the mind-to envelope)

> > They do have their influence on our minds.

> > But only till the Dridha Destiny allows.

> > Not more than that. This is the play of Maya,

> > but only that Maya which we ourselves attract

> > through our Karmas of present or Past Births

> >

> > Bhagya is that part of Maya which we have

> > attracted , known as - Individual destiny.

> > The Dridha Karma (Strong actions), of past

> > and present Births will attract strong Results

> > ( Dridha Bhagya) evil or Good,

> > from which we can have no escape.

> > For example persons born blind,lame, or

> > who loose parents early, are all paying

> > for past evil Dridha Karmas.

> > Persons born in rich families, or born in

> > poor ones, but grow rich overnight, due

> > to Lotteries etc, persons who get good

> > looking and Loving wives, healthy bodies

> > without sickness etc. are all earning

> > through their Dridha good karmas and

> > attract Dridh Saubhagya.

> >

> > Karma is different.

> > The same people above who got good

> > loving wives, if yet ill treat their good and

> > caring wives, are now doing kukarma or

> > evil deeds.

> > The same people who are born lame but

> > open hospitals or care centres for other

> > handicapped brethren are into sukarma.

> > That is the Karma, which is in our

> > hands, and the previous one which

> > we received on our own , is our

> > Bhagya.

> >

> > The Bhagya may have given you a good Liver

> > in Your body, but through your own Karmas, you can

> > drink daily and spoil it. That is Karma.

> > The Bhagya may have given you a healthy body, but

> > you may use it to terrorise people or small

> > family members. That is Karma.

> >

> > Planets never teach or put evil ideas in our mind.

> > It is our own evil thoughts which makes us commit

> > wrong actions. Planets do not teach anyone

> > to rape, or plant Bombs and kill innocent

> > people. Planets do not teach us to eye our

> > neighbours beautiful wife, it is our own dirty mind

> > and weak sanskaar which compels us so.

> > God has given us " Discrimination

> > power " or buddhi , One may use it with

> > his own God gifted free will, in either

> > subuddhi or durbuddhi.

> >

> > The planets would only influence you till

> > the Fate written in your destiny is not met,

> > and once that is met, You are free to

> > act and do naveen Karma.

> >

> > I can continue, and I want to, but this

> > mail would become very long.

> > So lets rest now.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " gupta089 " <gupta089@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Bhaskar ji, S.C. Kursija

> > > and others

> > > Namaskar

> > >

> > > Excellent

> > > Excellent Sir,

> > > You are at the right point.

> > > Planets and stars effect our mind (Maan)by some force.

> > > Moon represent our mind.

> > > Planets create fear,terror, hesitation, attraction

> > > and many others feelings.

> > > they press us to do wrong deeds by affecting our mind.

> > > Planets create affection and hatred in the mind for

> > > others and accordingly we treat them.

> > > Planets gives us new ideas in our mind and accordingly

> > > we do work.

> > >

> > > BY MIND WE DO KARMA

> > > Now Bhagya is decided by the planets.These planets

> > > effect our mind and with this affected mind we do the Karma.

> > > Then how BHAGYA AND KARMA ARE DIFFERENT.

> > > Please clarify

> > > Through some light on this point. Iam confussed.

> > > Thanks

> > > Dhananjay Gupta.

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > // it is clear that Bhagya has got

> > > > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what

> > > > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the

> > > > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations.

> > > > The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore

> > > > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of

> > > > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes

> > > > kundan. Please take care of your Karma. //

> > > >

> > > > Beautiful Post.

> > > > Pl send above to all Forums. People should realise

> > > > that " Karma " is " Pradhan " . Nothing can

> > > > substitute that. Without " Karma " all " Yogas " are

> > > > defunct. Marriage written for native, but if he

> > > > does not sit for saath pheras, how can the

> > > > marriage be performed ? Children written in

> > > > destniy, but if native does not conjugate , then

> > > > how children will come ? Just as in these cases

> > > > God did not come down to do all this, neither

> > > > " Bhagya " , because " Bhagya " is not a physical living

> > > > entity, but it is just a " Promise " which can only be

> > > > met with appropriate corresponding " Karma " .

> > > > Sam way all great Gajkesari Yogas, Dhana Yogas,

> > > > Panch mahapurusha Yogas, Rajyogas,

> > > > etcetra, stand to nought

> > > > if a native sits doing nothing, but just spending

> > > > his time leisurely eating free food given by Parents,

> > > > Uncle,or else waiting for destiny to arrive.

> > > >

> > > > Your post was a lovely treat to read.

> > > >

> > > > Good.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " S.C. Kursija "

> <sckursija@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dera members,

> > > > > To day, October 12, 2007 is the beginning of Durga

> > > > > Puja. The Navaratri begins. She is Maha-Shakti or

> > > > > Supreme Energy. She manifests chiefly in three forms:

> > > > > Maha-Saraswati, Maha-Lakshmi and Maha-Kali: Creation,

> > > > > Conservation and Annihilation, i.e. Birth, Sustenance

> > > > > and Death, the three faces of life. By worshiping

> > > > > Durga, we worship the cycle of life. In Durga

> > > > > Saptshati, the Maha-Shakti has been worshiped as " O

> > > > > Mother Durga, you remove all fear of those who

> > > > > remember you in trouble. You bestow all your wisdom,

> > > > > compassion in your heart to those who remember you in

> > > > > their happiness. You are the dispeller of poverty,

> > > > > pain and fear. "

> > > > > May Mother Durga bless you and remove your poverty,

> > > > > pain and fear. She may grant you knowledge, wealth and

> > > > > happiness.

> > > > >

> > > > > According to my little knowledge, the energy

> > > > > represents activities, the Karma. Our sages have made

> > > > > 10th house, Karma, as the most powerful Kendra among

> > > > > the Kendra. The 9th house, Bhagya, is 12th to 10th,

> > > > > Karma, the negation of Karma. If the lords of 10th and

> > > > > 9th combined in auspicious house they produce most

> > > > > powerful Raja-Yoga But it is clear that Bhagya has got

> > > > > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what

> > > > > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the

> > > > > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations.

> > > > > The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore

> > > > > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of

> > > > > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes

> > > > > kundan. Please take care of your Karma.

> > > > > Mother Durga may guide you through the cycle of life

> > > > > and bless you.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> ____________________

> > > ______________

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> > > pocket:

> > > > mail, news, photos & more.

> > > > > http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC

> > > > >

> > > >

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Good thoughts Bhaskar ji,

 

 

You said:

//My Bhagya gives me to eat, without having to

work for it, because of my ancestral property

and investments made by my forefathers, which

keep on giving monthly returns for sustenance.

So actually I do not have to work for basic

living.//

 

Actually, this Bhagya is a result of your own past Karma that

got deposited in your Bhaghya account!

 

What you seeded 'Yesterday' is what you reap 'Today'

 

One does not get anything Free in this world! Every bit has to

be earned by own Karma!

 

Since Bhagya (Sanchita/Prarabdha Karma) is the creation of our

own Karams from the past only our actions (Karma) of today has

the power to modify it! Nothing else, not even God can alter it!

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

--- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

 

> Dear Guptaji,

>

> Namaste,

>

> " Dridha " means strong, or determined,

> or strong willed, as in " Dridha Nischay " .

> Dridha is synonymous with " Bhishma " or

> irrevocable or something which is bound

> to occur, or happen, or " decided " .

>

> Example of difference between Bhagya and

> Karma.

>

> My Bhagya gives me to eat, without having to

> work for it, because of my ancestral property

> and investments made by my forefathers, which

> keep on giving monthly returns for sustenance.

> So actually I do not have to work for basic

> living.

> But, if I yet work everyday,and add to the

> returns already coming without my inputs

> of efforts, then this work would become

> worship or Karma. Over Karma,

> we have a great free will given by God.

> This should not be wasted, which in other

> words means,that time is very precious and must

> not be littered away, but put to useful use.

> This was good Karma accentuating the good Bhagya.

>

> My Bhagya yesterday gave me a chance to earn

> Rs.2500-, when I gave some predictions to

> a lady who offered to deposit double this

> amount, in my bank a/c., but I littered

> the Bhagya away, by trying to impress her,and

> asked her to wait till those predictions come

> true in 3 months time, and then deposit the

> Fees. This was bad karma working against

> the Good Bhagya (As of now apparently).

>

> You may replicate the above examples with instances

> from your own Life, when a Bad Bhagya was given

> a right approach, while a good Bhagya was approached

> wrongly.Also Good Bhagya with Good Karma, and bad

> Bhagya made worser with Bad Karmas.

>

> Thus you may understand the working of Bhagya

> and Karma.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , " gupta089 " <gupta089

> wrote:

> >

> > BHASKAR JI

> > NAMASKAR

> > Thanks Sir,

> > I know that you only,can tell answers to such types

> > of questions.

> > Your explaination is correct.Iam deeply thinking on

> > it.Please tell me what is the meaning of the word

> > " Dridha "

> > Iam obliged to you.I will feel thankfull to you

> > if you continue the message on Karma and Bhagya

> >

> > REGARDS

> > Dhananjay

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

> <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Dhananjay,

> > >

> > > You need a Krishna to guide you.

> > > I like your arguments.

> > > A Planet is known as Graha, means

> > > ghar mein grahanam karna (To house)

> > > aur grasit karna. (In the mind-to envelope)

> > > They do have their influence on our minds.

> > > But only till the Dridha Destiny allows.

> > > Not more than that. This is the play of Maya,

> > > but only that Maya which we ourselves attract

> > > through our Karmas of present or Past Births

> > >

> > > Bhagya is that part of Maya which we have

> > > attracted , known as - Individual destiny.

> > > The Dridha Karma (Strong actions), of past

> > > and present Births will attract strong Results

> > > ( Dridha Bhagya) evil or Good,

> > > from which we can have no escape.

> > > For example persons born blind,lame, or

> > > who loose parents early, are all paying

> > > for past evil Dridha Karmas.

> > > Persons born in rich families, or born in

> > > poor ones, but grow rich overnight, due

> > > to Lotteries etc, persons who get good

> > > looking and Loving wives, healthy bodies

> > > without sickness etc. are all earning

> > > through their Dridha good karmas and

> > > attract Dridh Saubhagya.

> > >

> > > Karma is different.

> > > The same people above who got good

> > > loving wives, if yet ill treat their good and

> > > caring wives, are now doing kukarma or

> > > evil deeds.

> > > The same people who are born lame but

> > > open hospitals or care centres for other

> > > handicapped brethren are into sukarma.

> > > That is the Karma, which is in our

> > > hands, and the previous one which

> > > we received on our own , is our

> > > Bhagya.

> > >

> > > The Bhagya may have given you a good Liver

> > > in Your body, but through your own Karmas, you can

> > > drink daily and spoil it. That is Karma.

> > > The Bhagya may have given you a healthy body, but

> > > you may use it to terrorise people or small

> > > family members. That is Karma.

> > >

> > > Planets never teach or put evil ideas in our mind.

> > > It is our own evil thoughts which makes us commit

> > > wrong actions. Planets do not teach anyone

> > > to rape, or plant Bombs and kill innocent

> > > people. Planets do not teach us to eye our

> > > neighbours beautiful wife, it is our own dirty mind

> > > and weak sanskaar which compels us so.

> > > God has given us " Discrimination

> > > power " or buddhi , One may use it with

> > > his own God gifted free will, in either

> > > subuddhi or durbuddhi.

> > >

> > > The planets would only influence you till

> > > the Fate written in your destiny is not met,

> > > and once that is met, You are free to

> > > act and do naveen Karma.

> > >

> > > I can continue, and I want to, but this

> > > mail would become very long.

> > > So lets rest now.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " gupta089 "

> <gupta089@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar ji, S.C. Kursija

> > > > and others

> > > > Namaskar

> > > >

> > > > Excellent

> > > > Excellent Sir,

> > > > You are at the right point.

> > > > Planets and stars effect our mind (Maan)by some force.

> > > > Moon represent our mind.

> > > > Planets create fear,terror, hesitation, attraction

> > > > and many others feelings.

> > > > they press us to do wrong deeds by affecting our mind.

> > > > Planets create affection and hatred in the mind for

> > > > others and accordingly we treat them.

> > > > Planets gives us new ideas in our mind and accordingly

> > > > we do work.

> > > >

> > > > BY MIND WE DO KARMA

> > > > Now Bhagya is decided by the planets.These planets

> > > > effect our mind and with this affected mind we do the

> Karma.

> > > > Then how BHAGYA AND KARMA ARE DIFFERENT.

> > > > Please clarify

> > > > Through some light on this point. Iam confussed.

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Dhananjay Gupta.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " Bhaskar "

> <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > // it is clear that Bhagya has got

> > > > > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what

> > > > > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the

> > > > > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations.

> > > > > The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore

> > > > > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of

> > > > > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes

> > > > > kundan. Please take care of your Karma. //

> > > > >

> > > > > Beautiful Post.

> > > > > Pl send above to all Forums. People should realise

> > > > > that " Karma " is " Pradhan " . Nothing can

> > > > > substitute that. Without " Karma " all " Yogas " are

>

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Dear Bhaskar Bhai,

Ram Ram

Bhagya is not the Maya.In fact Bhagya is the result of our past good karmas

that motivates us to do good karmas in the present life but if we do try to

uderstand it having open eyes means with Buddhi-Vivek and the past and present

good karmas can provide one ultimate destination Bhakti / Mukti.If Bhagya is

Maya how can it give us good liver as you explained earlier?To think about the

sum Rs.2500/- that you could not get,is neither Bhagya or Durbhagya.First,not to

get and now to think about it is called in Hindi " & #2342; & #2369; & #2326;

& #2325; & #2368; & #2357; & #2375; & #2342; & #2344; & #2366; " and if you become able to

get such amount,that was called " & #2360; & #2369; & #2326; & #2325; & #2368;

& #2357; & #2375; & #2342; & #2344; & #2366; " . Plz try to understand both are VEDNA in

fact because " Sansarik sukh are Naashwan " and to help the others the main motive

of human being had been secondry slightly in such case but practice of doing

good karmas a natural habit blocked your way to accept the

same amount instantly that was the result of " PRAVATTI " (Habit to help others)

regarding the same has been explained in " YOGA-VASHISTHA " but to think about it

till now is the effect of Maya.It was not the matter of either Bhagya or

Durbhagya.

What is the result of past good karmas,one can realize to read the news in

Hindi news paper " Dainik Jagran " of dated 13th of Oct 2007.Two months old female

baby of Sh.Krishna Nand Gupta of Town-Sirsaganj,Distt-Firojabad(UP) was died due

to Pneumonia,so she was graved.Third night after the death that baby came in the

dreams of her mother Sangeeta and requested her to plz keep me away from the

grave because i am still alive.So very next day family members went there found

her alive and fit after digging the grave.It is the result of past good

karmas/Bhagya.

Few months before one well known industrialist of Delhi came to my residence

with the horoscope of his son who was suffering from tumor in his back.In short

i advised him to give wheat flour and sugar to ants daily but i became stunned

to listen his answer, according to him he was doing the said regularly from last

28 years not only giving but also he did not eat any thing before doing the

same.So all such deeds/habits make a good Bhagya but it should be done by all

means as MANSAA (By heart),VAACHAA(By speaking healing words) and KARMANAA (To

help others without hoping for any consideration).

As you know it is endless debate/topic and i find myself unable/uneasy to

indulge in such threading because i think MANAN (To learn) is more important in

comparison to place logics/arguements.God bless You.

 

With all good wishes

Shashie Shekhar

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Dear Guptaji,

 

Namaste,

 

" Dridha " means strong, or determined,

or strong willed, as in " Dridha Nischay " .

Dridha is synonymous with " Bhishma " or

irrevocable or something which is bound

to occur, or happen, or " decided " .

 

Example of difference between Bhagya and

Karma.

 

My Bhagya gives me to eat, without having to

work for it, because of my ancestral property

and investments made by my forefathers, which

keep on giving monthly returns for sustenance.

So actually I do not have to work for basic

living.

But, if I yet work everyday,and add to the

returns already coming without my inputs

of efforts, then this work would become

worship or Karma. Over Karma,

we have a great free will given by God.

This should not be wasted, which in other

words means,that time is very precious and must

not be littered away, but put to useful use.

This was good Karma accentuating the good Bhagya.

 

My Bhagya yesterday gave me a chance to earn

Rs.2500-, when I gave some predictions to

a lady who offered to deposit double this

amount, in my bank a/c., but I littered

the Bhagya away, by trying to impress her,and

asked her to wait till those predictions come

true in 3 months time, and then deposit the

Fees. This was bad karma working against

the Good Bhagya (As of now apparently).

 

You may replicate the above examples with instances

from your own Life, when a Bad Bhagya was given

a right approach, while a good Bhagya was approached

wrongly.Also Good Bhagya with Good Karma, and bad

Bhagya made worser with Bad Karmas.

 

Thus you may understand the working of Bhagya

and Karma.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

, " gupta089 " wrote:

>

> BHASKAR JI

> NAMASKAR

> Thanks Sir,

> I know that you only,can tell answers to such types

> of questions.

> Your explaination is correct.Iam deeply thinking on

> it.Please tell me what is the meaning of the word

> " Dridha "

> Iam obliged to you.I will feel thankfull to you

> if you continue the message on Karma and Bhagya

>

> REGARDS

> Dhananjay

>

>

>

> , " Bhaskar "

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Dhananjay,

> >

> > You need a Krishna to guide you.

> > I like your arguments.

> > A Planet is known as Graha, means

> > ghar mein grahanam karna (To house)

> > aur grasit karna. (In the mind-to envelope)

> > They do have their influence on our minds.

> > But only till the Dridha Destiny allows.

> > Not more than that. This is the play of Maya,

> > but only that Maya which we ourselves attract

> > through our Karmas of present or Past Births

> >

> > Bhagya is that part of Maya which we have

> > attracted , known as - Individual destiny.

> > The Dridha Karma (Strong actions), of past

> > and present Births will attract strong Results

> > ( Dridha Bhagya) evil or Good,

> > from which we can have no escape.

> > For example persons born blind,lame, or

> > who loose parents early, are all paying

> > for past evil Dridha Karmas.

> > Persons born in rich families, or born in

> > poor ones, but grow rich overnight, due

> > to Lotteries etc, persons who get good

> > looking and Loving wives, healthy bodies

> > without sickness etc. are all earning

> > through their Dridha good karmas and

> > attract Dridh Saubhagya.

> >

> > Karma is different.

> > The same people above who got good

> > loving wives, if yet ill treat their good and

> > caring wives, are now doing kukarma or

> > evil deeds.

> > The same people who are born lame but

> > open hospitals or care centres for other

> > handicapped brethren are into sukarma.

> > That is the Karma, which is in our

> > hands, and the previous one which

> > we received on our own , is our

> > Bhagya.

> >

> > The Bhagya may have given you a good Liver

> > in Your body, but through your own Karmas, you can

> > drink daily and spoil it. That is Karma.

> > The Bhagya may have given you a healthy body, but

> > you may use it to terrorise people or small

> > family members. That is Karma.

> >

> > Planets never teach or put evil ideas in our mind.

> > It is our own evil thoughts which makes us commit

> > wrong actions. Planets do not teach anyone

> > to rape, or plant Bombs and kill innocent

> > people. Planets do not teach us to eye our

> > neighbours beautiful wife, it is our own dirty mind

> > and weak sanskaar which compels us so.

> > God has given us " Discrimination

> > power " or buddhi , One may use it with

> > his own God gifted free will, in either

> > subuddhi or durbuddhi.

> >

> > The planets would only influence you till

> > the Fate written in your destiny is not met,

> > and once that is met, You are free to

> > act and do naveen Karma.

> >

> > I can continue, and I want to, but this

> > mail would become very long.

> > So lets rest now.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " gupta089 " wrote:

> > >

> > > Bhaskar ji, S.C. Kursija

> > > and others

> > > Namaskar

> > >

> > > Excellent

> > > Excellent Sir,

> > > You are at the right point.

> > > Planets and stars effect our mind (Maan)by some force.

> > > Moon represent our mind.

> > > Planets create fear,terror, hesitation, attraction

> > > and many others feelings.

> > > they press us to do wrong deeds by affecting our mind.

> > > Planets create affection and hatred in the mind for

> > > others and accordingly we treat them.

> > > Planets gives us new ideas in our mind and accordingly

> > > we do work.

> > >

> > > BY MIND WE DO KARMA

> > > Now Bhagya is decided by the planets.These planets

> > > effect our mind and with this affected mind we do the Karma.

> > > Then how BHAGYA AND KARMA ARE DIFFERENT.

> > > Please clarify

> > > Through some light on this point. Iam confussed.

> > > Thanks

> > > Dhananjay Gupta.

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > // it is clear that Bhagya has got

> > > > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what

> > > > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the

> > > > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations.

> > > > The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore

> > > > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of

> > > > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes

> > > > kundan. Please take care of your Karma. //

> > > >

> > > > Beautiful Post.

> > > > Pl send above to all Forums. People should realise

> > > > that " Karma " is " Pradhan " . Nothing can

> > > > substitute that. Without " Karma " all " Yogas " are

> > > > defunct. Marriage written for native, but if he

> > > > does not sit for saath pheras, how can the

> > > > marriage be performed ? Children written in

> > > > destniy, but if native does not conjugate , then

> > > > how children will come ? Just as in these cases

> > > > God did not come down to do all this, neither

> > > > " Bhagya " , because " Bhagya " is not a physical living

> > > > entity, but it is just a " Promise " which can only be

> > > > met with appropriate corresponding " Karma " .

> > > > Sam way all great Gajkesari Yogas, Dhana Yogas,

> > > > Panch mahapurusha Yogas, Rajyogas,

> > > > etcetra, stand to nought

> > > > if a native sits doing nothing, but just spending

> > > > his time leisurely eating free food given by Parents,

> > > > Uncle,or else waiting for destiny to arrive.

> > > >

> > > > Your post was a lovely treat to read.

> > > >

> > > > Good.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " S.C. Kursija "

>

> > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dera members,

> > > > > To day, October 12, 2007 is the beginning of Durga

> > > > > Puja. The Navaratri begins. She is Maha-Shakti or

> > > > > Supreme Energy. She manifests chiefly in three forms:

> > > > > Maha-Saraswati, Maha-Lakshmi and Maha-Kali: Creation,

> > > > > Conservation and Annihilation, i.e. Birth, Sustenance

> > > > > and Death, the three faces of life. By worshiping

> > > > > Durga, we worship the cycle of life. In Durga

> > > > > Saptshati, the Maha-Shakti has been worshiped as " O

> > > > > Mother Durga, you remove all fear of those who

> > > > > remember you in trouble. You bestow all your wisdom,

> > > > > compassion in your heart to those who remember you in

> > > > > their happiness. You are the dispeller of poverty,

> > > > > pain and fear. "

> > > > > May Mother Durga bless you and remove your poverty,

> > > > > pain and fear. She may grant you knowledge, wealth and

> > > > > happiness.

> > > > >

> > > > > According to my little knowledge, the energy

> > > > > represents activities, the Karma. Our sages have made

> > > > > 10th house, Karma, as the most powerful Kendra among

> > > > > the Kendra. The 9th house, Bhagya, is 12th to 10th,

> > > > > Karma, the negation of Karma. If the lords of 10th and

> > > > > 9th combined in auspicious house they produce most

> > > > > powerful Raja-Yoga But it is clear that Bhagya has got

> > > > > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what

> > > > > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the

> > > > > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations.

> > > > > The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore

> > > > > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of

> > > > > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes

> > > > > kundan. Please take care of your Karma.

> > > > > Mother Durga may guide you through the cycle of life

> > > > > and bless you.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> ____________________

> > > ______________

> > > > > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your

> > > pocket:

> > > > mail, news, photos & more.

> > > > > http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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ll HARE RAM ll

Dear Bhaskar Bhai,

Ram Ram

Bhagya is not the Maya.In fact Bhagya is the result of our past good karmas

that motivates us to do good karmas in the present life but if we do try to

uderstand it having open eyes means with Buddhi-Vivek and the past and present

good karmas can provide one ultimate destination Bhakti / Mukti.If Bhagya is

Maya how can it give us good liver as you explained earlier?To think about the

sum Rs.2500/- that you could not get,is neither Bhagya or Durbhagya.First,not to

get and now to think about it is called in Hindi " & #2342; & #2369; & #2326;

& #2325; & #2368; & #2357; & #2375; & #2342; & #2344; & #2366; " and if you become able to

get such amount,that was called " & #2360; & #2369; & #2326; & #2325; & #2368;

& #2357; & #2375; & #2342; & #2344; & #2366; " . Plz try to understand both are VEDNA in

fact because " Sansarik sukh are Naashwan " and to help the others the main motive

of human being had been secondry slightly in such case but practice of doing

good karmas a natural habit blocked your way to accept the

same amount instantly that was the result of " PRAVATTI " (Habit to help others)

regarding the same has been explained in " YOGA-VASHISTHA " but to think about it

till now is the effect of Maya.It was not the matter of either Bhagya or

Durbhagya.

What is the result of past good karmas,one can realize to read the news in

Hindi news paper " Dainik Jagran " of dated 13th of Oct 2007.Two months old female

baby of Sh.Krishna Nand Gupta of Town-Sirsaganj,Distt-Firojabad(UP) was died due

to Pneumonia,so she was graved.Third night after the death that baby came in the

dreams of her mother Sangeeta and requested her to plz keep me away from the

grave because i am still alive.So very next day family members went there found

her alive and fit after digging the grave.It is the result of past good

karmas/Bhagya.

Few months before one well known industrialist of Delhi came to my residence

with the horoscope of his son who was suffering from tumor in his back.In short

i advised him to give wheat flour and sugar to ants daily but i became stunned

to listen his answer, according to him he was doing the said regularly from last

28 years not only giving but also he did not eat any thing before doing the

same.So all such deeds/habits make a good Bhagya but it should be done by all

means as MANSAA (By heart),VAACHAA(By speaking healing words) and KARMANAA (To

help others without hoping for any consideration).

As you know it is endless debate/topic and i find myself unable/uneasy to

indulge in such threading because i think MANAN (To learn) is more important in

comparison to place logics/arguements.God bless You.

 

With all good wishes

Shashie Shekhar

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Dear Guptaji,

 

Namaste,

 

" Dridha " means strong, or determined,

or strong willed, as in " Dridha Nischay " .

Dridha is synonymous with " Bhishma " or

irrevocable or something which is bound

to occur, or happen, or " decided " .

 

Example of difference between Bhagya and

Karma.

 

My Bhagya gives me to eat, without having to

work for it, because of my ancestral property

and investments made by my forefathers, which

keep on giving monthly returns for sustenance.

So actually I do not have to work for basic

living.

But, if I yet work everyday,and add to the

returns already coming without my inputs

of efforts, then this work would become

worship or Karma. Over Karma,

we have a great free will given by God.

This should not be wasted, which in other

words means,that time is very precious and must

not be littered away, but put to useful use.

This was good Karma accentuating the good Bhagya.

 

My Bhagya yesterday gave me a chance to earn

Rs.2500-, when I gave some predictions to

a lady who offered to deposit double this

amount, in my bank a/c., but I littered

the Bhagya away, by trying to impress her,and

asked her to wait till those predictions come

true in 3 months time, and then deposit the

Fees. This was bad karma working against

the Good Bhagya (As of now apparently).

 

You may replicate the above examples with instances

from your own Life, when a Bad Bhagya was given

a right approach, while a good Bhagya was approached

wrongly.Also Good Bhagya with Good Karma, and bad

Bhagya made worser with Bad Karmas.

 

Thus you may understand the working of Bhagya

and Karma.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

, " gupta089 " wrote:

>

> BHASKAR JI

> NAMASKAR

> Thanks Sir,

> I know that you only,can tell answers to such types

> of questions.

> Your explaination is correct.Iam deeply thinking on

> it.Please tell me what is the meaning of the word

> " Dridha "

> Iam obliged to you.I will feel thankfull to you

> if you continue the message on Karma and Bhagya

>

> REGARDS

> Dhananjay

>

>

>

> , " Bhaskar "

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Dhananjay,

> >

> > You need a Krishna to guide you.

> > I like your arguments.

> > A Planet is known as Graha, means

> > ghar mein grahanam karna (To house)

> > aur grasit karna. (In the mind-to envelope)

> > They do have their influence on our minds.

> > But only till the Dridha Destiny allows.

> > Not more than that. This is the play of Maya,

> > but only that Maya which we ourselves attract

> > through our Karmas of present or Past Births

> >

> > Bhagya is that part of Maya which we have

> > attracted , known as - Individual destiny.

> > The Dridha Karma (Strong actions), of past

> > and present Births will attract strong Results

> > ( Dridha Bhagya) evil or Good,

> > from which we can have no escape.

> > For example persons born blind,lame, or

> > who loose parents early, are all paying

> > for past evil Dridha Karmas.

> > Persons born in rich families, or born in

> > poor ones, but grow rich overnight, due

> > to Lotteries etc, persons who get good

> > looking and Loving wives, healthy bodies

> > without sickness etc. are all earning

> > through their Dridha good karmas and

> > attract Dridh Saubhagya.

> >

> > Karma is different.

> > The same people above who got good

> > loving wives, if yet ill treat their good and

> > caring wives, are now doing kukarma or

> > evil deeds.

> > The same people who are born lame but

> > open hospitals or care centres for other

> > handicapped brethren are into sukarma.

> > That is the Karma, which is in our

> > hands, and the previous one which

> > we received on our own , is our

> > Bhagya.

> >

> > The Bhagya may have given you a good Liver

> > in Your body, but through your own Karmas, you can

> > drink daily and spoil it. That is Karma.

> > The Bhagya may have given you a healthy body, but

> > you may use it to terrorise people or small

> > family members. That is Karma.

> >

> > Planets never teach or put evil ideas in our mind.

> > It is our own evil thoughts which makes us commit

> > wrong actions. Planets do not teach anyone

> > to rape, or plant Bombs and kill innocent

> > people. Planets do not teach us to eye our

> > neighbours beautiful wife, it is our own dirty mind

> > and weak sanskaar which compels us so.

> > God has given us " Discrimination

> > power " or buddhi , One may use it with

> > his own God gifted free will, in either

> > subuddhi or durbuddhi.

> >

> > The planets would only influence you till

> > the Fate written in your destiny is not met,

> > and once that is met, You are free to

> > act and do naveen Karma.

> >

> > I can continue, and I want to, but this

> > mail would become very long.

> > So lets rest now.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " gupta089 " wrote:

> > >

> > > Bhaskar ji, S.C. Kursija

> > > and others

> > > Namaskar

> > >

> > > Excellent

> > > Excellent Sir,

> > > You are at the right point.

> > > Planets and stars effect our mind (Maan)by some force.

> > > Moon represent our mind.

> > > Planets create fear,terror, hesitation, attraction

> > > and many others feelings.

> > > they press us to do wrong deeds by affecting our mind.

> > > Planets create affection and hatred in the mind for

> > > others and accordingly we treat them.

> > > Planets gives us new ideas in our mind and accordingly

> > > we do work.

> > >

> > > BY MIND WE DO KARMA

> > > Now Bhagya is decided by the planets.These planets

> > > effect our mind and with this affected mind we do the Karma.

> > > Then how BHAGYA AND KARMA ARE DIFFERENT.

> > > Please clarify

> > > Through some light on this point. Iam confussed.

> > > Thanks

> > > Dhananjay Gupta.

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > // it is clear that Bhagya has got

> > > > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what

> > > > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the

> > > > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations.

> > > > The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore

> > > > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of

> > > > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes

> > > > kundan. Please take care of your Karma. //

> > > >

> > > > Beautiful Post.

> > > > Pl send above to all Forums. People should realise

> > > > that " Karma " is " Pradhan " . Nothing can

> > > > substitute that. Without " Karma " all " Yogas " are

> > > > defunct. Marriage written for native, but if he

> > > > does not sit for saath pheras, how can the

> > > > marriage be performed ? Children written in

> > > > destniy, but if native does not conjugate , then

> > > > how children will come ? Just as in these cases

> > > > God did not come down to do all this, neither

> > > > " Bhagya " , because " Bhagya " is not a physical living

> > > > entity, but it is just a " Promise " which can only be

> > > > met with appropriate corresponding " Karma " .

> > > > Sam way all great Gajkesari Yogas, Dhana Yogas,

> > > > Panch mahapurusha Yogas, Rajyogas,

> > > > etcetra, stand to nought

> > > > if a native sits doing nothing, but just spending

> > > > his time leisurely eating free food given by Parents,

> > > > Uncle,or else waiting for destiny to arrive.

> > > >

> > > > Your post was a lovely treat to read.

> > > >

> > > > Good.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " S.C. Kursija "

>

> > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dera members,

> > > > > To day, October 12, 2007 is the beginning of Durga

> > > > > Puja. The Navaratri begins. She is Maha-Shakti or

> > > > > Supreme Energy. She manifests chiefly in three forms:

> > > > > Maha-Saraswati, Maha-Lakshmi and Maha-Kali: Creation,

> > > > > Conservation and Annihilation, i.e. Birth, Sustenance

> > > > > and Death, the three faces of life. By worshiping

> > > > > Durga, we worship the cycle of life. In Durga

> > > > > Saptshati, the Maha-Shakti has been worshiped as " O

> > > > > Mother Durga, you remove all fear of those who

> > > > > remember you in trouble. You bestow all your wisdom,

> > > > > compassion in your heart to those who remember you in

> > > > > their happiness. You are the dispeller of poverty,

> > > > > pain and fear. "

> > > > > May Mother Durga bless you and remove your poverty,

> > > > > pain and fear. She may grant you knowledge, wealth and

> > > > > happiness.

> > > > >

> > > > > According to my little knowledge, the energy

> > > > > represents activities, the Karma. Our sages have made

> > > > > 10th house, Karma, as the most powerful Kendra among

> > > > > the Kendra. The 9th house, Bhagya, is 12th to 10th,

> > > > > Karma, the negation of Karma. If the lords of 10th and

> > > > > 9th combined in auspicious house they produce most

> > > > > powerful Raja-Yoga But it is clear that Bhagya has got

> > > > > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what

> > > > > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the

> > > > > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations.

> > > > > The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore

> > > > > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of

> > > > > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes

> > > > > kundan. Please take care of your Karma.

> > > > > Mother Durga may guide you through the cycle of life

> > > > > and bless you.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> ____________________

> > > ______________

> > > > > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your

> > > pocket:

> > > > mail, news, photos & more.

> > > > > http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Gupta Ji,

 

Have u thought over his previous birth's karmas, what 5'th, 9'th,

10'th or 11'th house promises, what dasha - antardasha he is

going,what planets are participitaing in it ?

 

there should be answer ...

 

regards,

Lalit Mishra.

 

, " gupta089 " <gupta089 wrote:

>

>

> Dear Bhaskarji and Krishnamurthy ji

> Thanks,but i do not agree with you on KARMA AND BHAGYA.

>

> lets take an example chart of a person who came to

> me for his marriage discussion.Iam not at all

> professional. He is in my relation.

> D.O.B-- 21st Oct 1967

> T.O.B - 06:55 AM

> P.O.B - Allahabad.

>

> The person has Duryoga in his horoscope that is-

> Lord of 10th house is situated in the 8th house.

> As you know - Person with Duryoga do not derive

> the fruits of their own bodily exertion.Same is

> true for him.

>

> He is not doing any work even at this age,neither

> he is intrested.He do not have ability nor

> educational qualification to do work.He can not

> do cheap work because he is born in good service

> class family.Family do not have any business even.

>

> This person does not have good thinking because

> MOON is in 8th.

> PLANETS are restricting him from doing any KARMA

> How can such a person do any karma in his present

> birth, to make future birth (Bhagya)good.

> Please see his horoscope and then answer.

> REGARDS

> Dhananjay

>

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Dear members

Don't hesitate to tell your opinion or thinking.

No one is perfect here or anywhere, instead we are

trying to find Perfect Rule or Law of Karma.

Bhaskar ji had only given his opinion.

And please,don't take anything for granted.

Regards

D.G.

 

 

, Shashie Shekhar

<polite_astro wrote:

>

> ll HARE RAM ll

> Dear Bhaskar Bhai,

> Ram Ram

> Bhagya is not the Maya.In fact Bhagya is the result of our past

good karmas that motivates us to do good karmas in the present life

but if we do try to uderstand it having open eyes means with Buddhi-

Vivek and the past and present good karmas can provide one ultimate

destination Bhakti / Mukti.If Bhagya is Maya how can it give us good

liver as you explained earlier?To think about the sum Rs.2500/- that

you could not get,is neither Bhagya or Durbhagya.First,not to get and

now to think about it is called in Hindi " & #2342; & #2369; & #2326;

& #2325; & #2368; & #2357; & #2375; & #2342; & #2344; & #2366; " and if you become

able to get such amount,that was called " & #2360; & #2369; & #2326;

& #2325; & #2368; & #2357; & #2375; & #2342; & #2344; & #2366; " . Plz try to

understand both are VEDNA in fact because " Sansarik sukh are

Naashwan " and to help the others the main motive of human being had

been secondry slightly in such case but practice of doing good karmas

a natural habit blocked your way to accept the

> same amount instantly that was the result of " PRAVATTI " (Habit to

help others) regarding the same has been explained in " YOGA-

VASHISTHA " but to think about it till now is the effect of Maya.It

was not the matter of either Bhagya or Durbhagya.

> What is the result of past good karmas,one can realize to read

the news in Hindi news paper " Dainik Jagran " of dated 13th of Oct

2007.Two months old female baby of Sh.Krishna Nand Gupta of Town-

Sirsaganj,Distt-Firojabad(UP) was died due to Pneumonia,so she was

graved.Third night after the death that baby came in the dreams of

her mother Sangeeta and requested her to plz keep me away from the

grave because i am still alive.So very next day family members went

there found her alive and fit after digging the grave.It is the

result of past good karmas/Bhagya.

> Few months before one well known industrialist of Delhi came to

my residence with the horoscope of his son who was suffering from

tumor in his back.In short i advised him to give wheat flour and

sugar to ants daily but i became stunned to listen his answer,

according to him he was doing the said regularly from last 28 years

not only giving but also he did not eat any thing before doing the

same.So all such deeds/habits make a good Bhagya but it should be

done by all means as MANSAA (By heart),VAACHAA(By speaking healing

words) and KARMANAA (To help others without hoping for any

consideration).

> As you know it is endless debate/topic and i find myself

unable/uneasy to indulge in such threading because i think MANAN (To

learn) is more important in comparison to place logics/arguements.God

bless You.

>

> With all good wishes

> Shashie Shekhar

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

> Dear Guptaji,

>

> Namaste,

>

> " Dridha " means strong, or determined,

> or strong willed, as in " Dridha Nischay " .

> Dridha is synonymous with " Bhishma " or

> irrevocable or something which is bound

> to occur, or happen, or " decided " .

>

> Example of difference between Bhagya and

> Karma.

>

> My Bhagya gives me to eat, without having to

> work for it, because of my ancestral property

> and investments made by my forefathers, which

> keep on giving monthly returns for sustenance.

> So actually I do not have to work for basic

> living.

> But, if I yet work everyday,and add to the

> returns already coming without my inputs

> of efforts, then this work would become

> worship or Karma. Over Karma,

> we have a great free will given by God.

> This should not be wasted, which in other

> words means,that time is very precious and must

> not be littered away, but put to useful use.

> This was good Karma accentuating the good Bhagya.

>

> My Bhagya yesterday gave me a chance to earn

> Rs.2500-, when I gave some predictions to

> a lady who offered to deposit double this

> amount, in my bank a/c., but I littered

> the Bhagya away, by trying to impress her,and

> asked her to wait till those predictions come

> true in 3 months time, and then deposit the

> Fees. This was bad karma working against

> the Good Bhagya (As of now apparently).

>

> You may replicate the above examples with instances

> from your own Life, when a Bad Bhagya was given

> a right approach, while a good Bhagya was approached

> wrongly.Also Good Bhagya with Good Karma, and bad

> Bhagya made worser with Bad Karmas.

>

> Thus you may understand the working of Bhagya

> and Karma.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , " gupta089 " wrote:

> >

> > BHASKAR JI

> > NAMASKAR

> > Thanks Sir,

> > I know that you only,can tell answers to such types

> > of questions.

> > Your explaination is correct.Iam deeply thinking on

> > it.Please tell me what is the meaning of the word

> > " Dridha "

> > Iam obliged to you.I will feel thankfull to you

> > if you continue the message on Karma and Bhagya

> >

> > REGARDS

> > Dhananjay

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Dhananjay,

> > >

> > > You need a Krishna to guide you.

> > > I like your arguments.

> > > A Planet is known as Graha, means

> > > ghar mein grahanam karna (To house)

> > > aur grasit karna. (In the mind-to envelope)

> > > They do have their influence on our minds.

> > > But only till the Dridha Destiny allows.

> > > Not more than that. This is the play of Maya,

> > > but only that Maya which we ourselves attract

> > > through our Karmas of present or Past Births

> > >

> > > Bhagya is that part of Maya which we have

> > > attracted , known as - Individual destiny.

> > > The Dridha Karma (Strong actions), of past

> > > and present Births will attract strong Results

> > > ( Dridha Bhagya) evil or Good,

> > > from which we can have no escape.

> > > For example persons born blind,lame, or

> > > who loose parents early, are all paying

> > > for past evil Dridha Karmas.

> > > Persons born in rich families, or born in

> > > poor ones, but grow rich overnight, due

> > > to Lotteries etc, persons who get good

> > > looking and Loving wives, healthy bodies

> > > without sickness etc. are all earning

> > > through their Dridha good karmas and

> > > attract Dridh Saubhagya.

> > >

> > > Karma is different.

> > > The same people above who got good

> > > loving wives, if yet ill treat their good and

> > > caring wives, are now doing kukarma or

> > > evil deeds.

> > > The same people who are born lame but

> > > open hospitals or care centres for other

> > > handicapped brethren are into sukarma.

> > > That is the Karma, which is in our

> > > hands, and the previous one which

> > > we received on our own , is our

> > > Bhagya.

> > >

> > > The Bhagya may have given you a good Liver

> > > in Your body, but through your own Karmas, you can

> > > drink daily and spoil it. That is Karma.

> > > The Bhagya may have given you a healthy body, but

> > > you may use it to terrorise people or small

> > > family members. That is Karma.

> > >

> > > Planets never teach or put evil ideas in our mind.

> > > It is our own evil thoughts which makes us commit

> > > wrong actions. Planets do not teach anyone

> > > to rape, or plant Bombs and kill innocent

> > > people. Planets do not teach us to eye our

> > > neighbours beautiful wife, it is our own dirty mind

> > > and weak sanskaar which compels us so.

> > > God has given us " Discrimination

> > > power " or buddhi , One may use it with

> > > his own God gifted free will, in either

> > > subuddhi or durbuddhi.

> > >

> > > The planets would only influence you till

> > > the Fate written in your destiny is not met,

> > > and once that is met, You are free to

> > > act and do naveen Karma.

> > >

> > > I can continue, and I want to, but this

> > > mail would become very long.

> > > So lets rest now.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " gupta089 " wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar ji, S.C. Kursija

> > > > and others

> > > > Namaskar

> > > >

> > > > Excellent

> > > > Excellent Sir,

> > > > You are at the right point.

> > > > Planets and stars effect our mind (Maan)by some force.

> > > > Moon represent our mind.

> > > > Planets create fear,terror, hesitation, attraction

> > > > and many others feelings.

> > > > they press us to do wrong deeds by affecting our mind.

> > > > Planets create affection and hatred in the mind for

> > > > others and accordingly we treat them.

> > > > Planets gives us new ideas in our mind and accordingly

> > > > we do work.

> > > >

> > > > BY MIND WE DO KARMA

> > > > Now Bhagya is decided by the planets.These planets

> > > > effect our mind and with this affected mind we do the Karma.

> > > > Then how BHAGYA AND KARMA ARE DIFFERENT.

> > > > Please clarify

> > > > Through some light on this point. Iam confussed.

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Dhananjay Gupta.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > // it is clear that Bhagya has got

> > > > > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what

> > > > > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the

> > > > > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations.

> > > > > The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore

> > > > > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of

> > > > > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes

> > > > > kundan. Please take care of your Karma. //

> > > > >

> > > > > Beautiful Post.

> > > > > Pl send above to all Forums. People should realise

> > > > > that " Karma " is " Pradhan " . Nothing can

> > > > > substitute that. Without " Karma " all " Yogas " are

> > > > > defunct. Marriage written for native, but if he

> > > > > does not sit for saath pheras, how can the

> > > > > marriage be performed ? Children written in

> > > > > destniy, but if native does not conjugate , then

> > > > > how children will come ? Just as in these cases

> > > > > God did not come down to do all this, neither

> > > > > " Bhagya " , because " Bhagya " is not a physical living

> > > > > entity, but it is just a " Promise " which can only be

> > > > > met with appropriate corresponding " Karma " .

> > > > > Sam way all great Gajkesari Yogas, Dhana Yogas,

> > > > > Panch mahapurusha Yogas, Rajyogas,

> > > > > etcetra, stand to nought

> > > > > if a native sits doing nothing, but just spending

> > > > > his time leisurely eating free food given by Parents,

> > > > > Uncle,or else waiting for destiny to arrive.

> > > > >

> > > > > Your post was a lovely treat to read.

> > > > >

> > > > > Good.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " S.C. Kursija "

> >

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dera members,

> > > > > > To day, October 12, 2007 is the beginning of Durga

> > > > > > Puja. The Navaratri begins. She is Maha-Shakti or

> > > > > > Supreme Energy. She manifests chiefly in three forms:

> > > > > > Maha-Saraswati, Maha-Lakshmi and Maha-Kali: Creation,

> > > > > > Conservation and Annihilation, i.e. Birth, Sustenance

> > > > > > and Death, the three faces of life. By worshiping

> > > > > > Durga, we worship the cycle of life. In Durga

> > > > > > Saptshati, the Maha-Shakti has been worshiped as " O

> > > > > > Mother Durga, you remove all fear of those who

> > > > > > remember you in trouble. You bestow all your wisdom,

> > > > > > compassion in your heart to those who remember you in

> > > > > > their happiness. You are the dispeller of poverty,

> > > > > > pain and fear. "

> > > > > > May Mother Durga bless you and remove your poverty,

> > > > > > pain and fear. She may grant you knowledge, wealth and

> > > > > > happiness.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > According to my little knowledge, the energy

> > > > > > represents activities, the Karma. Our sages have made

> > > > > > 10th house, Karma, as the most powerful Kendra among

> > > > > > the Kendra. The 9th house, Bhagya, is 12th to 10th,

> > > > > > Karma, the negation of Karma. If the lords of 10th and

> > > > > > 9th combined in auspicious house they produce most

> > > > > > powerful Raja-Yoga But it is clear that Bhagya has got

> > > > > > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what

> > > > > > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the

> > > > > > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations.

> > > > > > The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore

> > > > > > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of

> > > > > > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes

> > > > > > kundan. Please take care of your Karma.

> > > > > > Mother Durga may guide you through the cycle of life

> > > > > > and bless you.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> >

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> > > > ______________

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Dear Gupta ji,

 

A state of a person 'today' is a result of the actions of that

person 'yesterday'. That is all. Nothing else! That is what I

believe in and I cannot not prove it to you like a scientific

proposition using an experiment.

 

I don't understand your logic! Just because this person is not

in a state of mind to perform good deeds, it cannot be taken as

a proof to disprove the theory of Karma! I am not sure what you

are you trying to prove by giving that example.

 

It is OK if you don't agree with my belief. And, thanks for

airing your views. But, you have not stated what you believe in.

Please do share. If I find value in it I will accept it.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

--- gupta089 <gupta089 wrote:

 

>

> Dear Bhaskarji and Krishnamurthy ji

> Thanks,but i do not agree with you on KARMA AND BHAGYA.

>

> lets take an example chart of a person who came to

> me for his marriage discussion.Iam not at all

> professional. He is in my relation.

> D.O.B-- 21st Oct 1967

> T.O.B - 06:55 AM

> P.O.B - Allahabad.

>

> The person has Duryoga in his horoscope that is-

> Lord of 10th house is situated in the 8th house.

> As you know - Person with Duryoga do not derive

> the fruits of their own bodily exertion.Same is

> true for him.

>

> He is not doing any work even at this age,neither

> he is intrested.He do not have ability nor

> educational qualification to do work.He can not

> do cheap work because he is born in good service

> class family.Family do not have any business even.

>

> This person does not have good thinking because

> MOON is in 8th.

> PLANETS are restricting him from doing any KARMA

> How can such a person do any karma in his present

> birth, to make future birth (Bhagya)good.

> Please see his horoscope and then answer.

> REGARDS

> Dhananjay

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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please check the mahadasa.

 

now operating mahadasa is guru.

 

in the young age ,operating mahadasa of mars and rahu have restricted his karma.

because mars afflicting 10 house and rahu in 7 house

 

but now for past 1 year the guru mahadasa is operating.

he should have felt improvement of everyday life work.

 

this persons life should improve slowly and steadily.

 

what do u think?

 

regards

virat

 

 

 

 

Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998

 

Wednesday, October 17, 2007 3:59:27 PM

Re: Greetings

 

Dear Gupta ji,

 

A state of a person 'today' is a result of the actions of that

person 'yesterday'. That is all. Nothing else! That is what I

believe in and I cannot not prove it to you like a scientific

proposition using an experiment.

 

I don't understand your logic! Just because this person is not

in a state of mind to perform good deeds, it cannot be taken as

a proof to disprove the theory of Karma! I am not sure what you

are you trying to prove by giving that example.

 

It is OK if you don't agree with my belief. And, thanks for

airing your views. But, you have not stated what you believe in.

Please do share. If I find value in it I will accept it.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

--- gupta089 <gupta089 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

 

>

> Dear Bhaskarji and Krishnamurthy ji

> Thanks,but i do not agree with you on KARMA AND BHAGYA.

>

> lets take an example chart of a person who came to

> me for his marriage discussion.Iam not at all

> professional. He is in my relation.

> D.O.B-- 21st Oct 1967

> T.O.B - 06:55 AM

> P.O.B - Allahabad.

>

> The person has Duryoga in his horoscope that is-

> Lord of 10th house is situated in the 8th house.

> As you know - Person with Duryoga do not derive

> the fruits of their own bodily exertion.Same is

> true for him.

>

> He is not doing any work even at this age,neither

> he is intrested.He do not have ability nor

> educational qualification to do work.He can not

> do cheap work because he is born in good service

> class family.Family do not have any business even.

>

> This person does not have good thinking because

> MOON is in 8th.

> PLANETS are restricting him from doing any KARMA

> How can such a person do any karma in his present

> birth, to make future birth (Bhagya)good.

> Please see his horoscope and then answer.

> REGARDS

> Dhananjay

>

>

 

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Shri Krishnamurthy ji,

 

Yes Sir, Bhagya is my own action created result.

No one else is responsible for it. Not even God.

 

Whatever earning I have made , paap or punya,

is through my own actions, done out of free

will granted to me, by God, which I may have

used well, or misused.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Good thoughts Bhaskar ji,

>

>

> You said:

> //My Bhagya gives me to eat, without having to

> work for it, because of my ancestral property

> and investments made by my forefathers, which

> keep on giving monthly returns for sustenance.

> So actually I do not have to work for basic

> living.//

>

> Actually, this Bhagya is a result of your own past Karma that

> got deposited in your Bhaghya account!

>

> What you seeded 'Yesterday' is what you reap 'Today'

>

> One does not get anything Free in this world! Every bit has to

> be earned by own Karma!

>

> Since Bhagya (Sanchita/Prarabdha Karma) is the creation of our

> own Karams from the past only our actions (Karma) of today has

> the power to modify it! Nothing else, not even God can alter it!

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> > Dear Guptaji,

> >

> > Namaste,

> >

> > " Dridha " means strong, or determined,

> > or strong willed, as in " Dridha Nischay " .

> > Dridha is synonymous with " Bhishma " or

> > irrevocable or something which is bound

> > to occur, or happen, or " decided " .

> >

> > Example of difference between Bhagya and

> > Karma.

> >

> > My Bhagya gives me to eat, without having to

> > work for it, because of my ancestral property

> > and investments made by my forefathers, which

> > keep on giving monthly returns for sustenance.

> > So actually I do not have to work for basic

> > living.

> > But, if I yet work everyday,and add to the

> > returns already coming without my inputs

> > of efforts, then this work would become

> > worship or Karma. Over Karma,

> > we have a great free will given by God.

> > This should not be wasted, which in other

> > words means,that time is very precious and must

> > not be littered away, but put to useful use.

> > This was good Karma accentuating the good Bhagya.

> >

> > My Bhagya yesterday gave me a chance to earn

> > Rs.2500-, when I gave some predictions to

> > a lady who offered to deposit double this

> > amount, in my bank a/c., but I littered

> > the Bhagya away, by trying to impress her,and

> > asked her to wait till those predictions come

> > true in 3 months time, and then deposit the

> > Fees. This was bad karma working against

> > the Good Bhagya (As of now apparently).

> >

> > You may replicate the above examples with instances

> > from your own Life, when a Bad Bhagya was given

> > a right approach, while a good Bhagya was approached

> > wrongly.Also Good Bhagya with Good Karma, and bad

> > Bhagya made worser with Bad Karmas.

> >

> > Thus you may understand the working of Bhagya

> > and Karma.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , " gupta089 " <gupta089@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > BHASKAR JI

> > > NAMASKAR

> > > Thanks Sir,

> > > I know that you only,can tell answers to such types

> > > of questions.

> > > Your explaination is correct.Iam deeply thinking on

> > > it.Please tell me what is the meaning of the word

> > > " Dridha "

> > > Iam obliged to you.I will feel thankfull to you

> > > if you continue the message on Karma and Bhagya

> > >

> > > REGARDS

> > > Dhananjay

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

> > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Dhananjay,

> > > >

> > > > You need a Krishna to guide you.

> > > > I like your arguments.

> > > > A Planet is known as Graha, means

> > > > ghar mein grahanam karna (To house)

> > > > aur grasit karna. (In the mind-to envelope)

> > > > They do have their influence on our minds.

> > > > But only till the Dridha Destiny allows.

> > > > Not more than that. This is the play of Maya,

> > > > but only that Maya which we ourselves attract

> > > > through our Karmas of present or Past Births

> > > >

> > > > Bhagya is that part of Maya which we have

> > > > attracted , known as - Individual destiny.

> > > > The Dridha Karma (Strong actions), of past

> > > > and present Births will attract strong Results

> > > > ( Dridha Bhagya) evil or Good,

> > > > from which we can have no escape.

> > > > For example persons born blind,lame, or

> > > > who loose parents early, are all paying

> > > > for past evil Dridha Karmas.

> > > > Persons born in rich families, or born in

> > > > poor ones, but grow rich overnight, due

> > > > to Lotteries etc, persons who get good

> > > > looking and Loving wives, healthy bodies

> > > > without sickness etc. are all earning

> > > > through their Dridha good karmas and

> > > > attract Dridh Saubhagya.

> > > >

> > > > Karma is different.

> > > > The same people above who got good

> > > > loving wives, if yet ill treat their good and

> > > > caring wives, are now doing kukarma or

> > > > evil deeds.

> > > > The same people who are born lame but

> > > > open hospitals or care centres for other

> > > > handicapped brethren are into sukarma.

> > > > That is the Karma, which is in our

> > > > hands, and the previous one which

> > > > we received on our own , is our

> > > > Bhagya.

> > > >

> > > > The Bhagya may have given you a good Liver

> > > > in Your body, but through your own Karmas, you can

> > > > drink daily and spoil it. That is Karma.

> > > > The Bhagya may have given you a healthy body, but

> > > > you may use it to terrorise people or small

> > > > family members. That is Karma.

> > > >

> > > > Planets never teach or put evil ideas in our mind.

> > > > It is our own evil thoughts which makes us commit

> > > > wrong actions. Planets do not teach anyone

> > > > to rape, or plant Bombs and kill innocent

> > > > people. Planets do not teach us to eye our

> > > > neighbours beautiful wife, it is our own dirty mind

> > > > and weak sanskaar which compels us so.

> > > > God has given us " Discrimination

> > > > power " or buddhi , One may use it with

> > > > his own God gifted free will, in either

> > > > subuddhi or durbuddhi.

> > > >

> > > > The planets would only influence you till

> > > > the Fate written in your destiny is not met,

> > > > and once that is met, You are free to

> > > > act and do naveen Karma.

> > > >

> > > > I can continue, and I want to, but this

> > > > mail would become very long.

> > > > So lets rest now.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " gupta089 "

> > <gupta089@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhaskar ji, S.C. Kursija

> > > > > and others

> > > > > Namaskar

> > > > >

> > > > > Excellent

> > > > > Excellent Sir,

> > > > > You are at the right point.

> > > > > Planets and stars effect our mind (Maan)by some force.

> > > > > Moon represent our mind.

> > > > > Planets create fear,terror, hesitation, attraction

> > > > > and many others feelings.

> > > > > they press us to do wrong deeds by affecting our mind.

> > > > > Planets create affection and hatred in the mind for

> > > > > others and accordingly we treat them.

> > > > > Planets gives us new ideas in our mind and accordingly

> > > > > we do work.

> > > > >

> > > > > BY MIND WE DO KARMA

> > > > > Now Bhagya is decided by the planets.These planets

> > > > > effect our mind and with this affected mind we do the

> > Karma.

> > > > > Then how BHAGYA AND KARMA ARE DIFFERENT.

> > > > > Please clarify

> > > > > Through some light on this point. Iam confussed.

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > Dhananjay Gupta.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > // it is clear that Bhagya has got

> > > > > > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what

> > > > > > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the

> > > > > > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations.

> > > > > > The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore

> > > > > > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of

> > > > > > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes

> > > > > > kundan. Please take care of your Karma. //

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Beautiful Post.

> > > > > > Pl send above to all Forums. People should realise

> > > > > > that " Karma " is " Pradhan " . Nothing can

> > > > > > substitute that. Without " Karma " all " Yogas " are

> >

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Shri Shashie Bhai,

 

Ram Ram,

 

I see everything as Maya including Bhagya which is a part

of this Maya. Maya is a temporary illusion whereas Vaikuntha

is a reality. Maya is our Grandfathers and Grandmothers

with whom we spent times together, but where are they now ?

When we were with them, it seemed reality, but Now ?

Now its memory. Therefore if we considered that as reality in'

those times, then where are they now ? They do exist, but

only in memory. So shall we consider those memories as

reality or Maya ? Maya which seemed real those times,

but now those same times converted into memory, because

we cannot re-capitulate them again. Can we ? So

ultimately all is Maya here, and the destiny connected

to these temporary physical bodies, too is Maya.

 

What is the reality then ?

 

Reality is,only the consciousness of being here.

Reality is only the consciousness of being a entity.

Reality is only the consciousness of ones individuality.

REeality is only the knowledge of being there,here

or being alive.

 

Our relatives who were there at one time, were reality.

Now they are dead . So at the time they were there, we

considered them as real.

They are no more physically there. So what do you all

the past then? Unreal ?

No that too was real. But real, only in Maya.

 

Remove the Maya, then only 2 remain. Ones Self, and the

Whole being from whom one has been created. That is reality.

The atma and the Parmatma.

 

Nothing else is true in this world.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, Shashie Shekhar

<polite_astro wrote:

>

> ll HARE RAM ll

> Dear Bhaskar Bhai,

> Ram Ram

> Bhagya is not the Maya.In fact Bhagya is the result of our past

good karmas that motivates us to do good karmas in the present life

but if we do try to uderstand it having open eyes means with

Buddhi-Vivek and the past and present good karmas can provide one

ultimate destination Bhakti / Mukti.If Bhagya is Maya how can it give

us good liver as you explained earlier?To think about the sum

Rs.2500/- that you could not get,is neither Bhagya or

Durbhagya.First,not to get and now to think about it is called in

Hindi " & #2342; & #2369; & #2326; & #2325; & #2368;

& #2357; & #2375; & #2342; & #2344; & #2366; " and if you become able to get

such amount,that was called " & #2360; & #2369; & #2326; & #2325; & #2368;

& #2357; & #2375; & #2342; & #2344; & #2366; " . Plz try to understand both are

VEDNA in fact because " Sansarik sukh are Naashwan " and to help the

others the main motive of human being had been secondry slightly in

such case but practice of doing good karmas a natural habit blocked

your way to accept the

> same amount instantly that was the result of " PRAVATTI " (Habit to

help others) regarding the same has been explained in " YOGA-VASHISTHA "

but to think about it till now is the effect of Maya.It was not the

matter of either Bhagya or Durbhagya.

> What is the result of past good karmas,one can realize to read the

news in Hindi news paper " Dainik Jagran " of dated 13th of Oct 2007.Two

months old female baby of Sh.Krishna Nand Gupta of

Town-Sirsaganj,Distt-Firojabad(UP) was died due to Pneumonia,so she

was graved.Third night after the death that baby came in the dreams of

her mother Sangeeta and requested her to plz keep me away from the

grave because i am still alive.So very next day family members went

there found her alive and fit after digging the grave.It is the result

of past good karmas/Bhagya.

> Few months before one well known industrialist of Delhi came to my

residence with the horoscope of his son who was suffering from tumor

in his back.In short i advised him to give wheat flour and sugar to

ants daily but i became stunned to listen his answer, according to him

he was doing the said regularly from last 28 years not only giving but

also he did not eat any thing before doing the same.So all such

deeds/habits make a good Bhagya but it should be done by all means as

MANSAA (By heart),VAACHAA(By speaking healing words) and KARMANAA (To

help others without hoping for any consideration).

> As you know it is endless debate/topic and i find myself

unable/uneasy to indulge in such threading because i think MANAN (To

learn) is more important in comparison to place logics/arguements.God

bless You.

>

> With all good wishes

> Shashie Shekhar

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

> Dear Guptaji,

>

> Namaste,

>

> " Dridha " means strong, or determined,

> or strong willed, as in " Dridha Nischay " .

> Dridha is synonymous with " Bhishma " or

> irrevocable or something which is bound

> to occur, or happen, or " decided " .

>

> Example of difference between Bhagya and

> Karma.

>

> My Bhagya gives me to eat, without having to

> work for it, because of my ancestral property

> and investments made by my forefathers, which

> keep on giving monthly returns for sustenance.

> So actually I do not have to work for basic

> living.

> But, if I yet work everyday,and add to the

> returns already coming without my inputs

> of efforts, then this work would become

> worship or Karma. Over Karma,

> we have a great free will given by God.

> This should not be wasted, which in other

> words means,that time is very precious and must

> not be littered away, but put to useful use.

> This was good Karma accentuating the good Bhagya.

>

> My Bhagya yesterday gave me a chance to earn

> Rs.2500-, when I gave some predictions to

> a lady who offered to deposit double this

> amount, in my bank a/c., but I littered

> the Bhagya away, by trying to impress her,and

> asked her to wait till those predictions come

> true in 3 months time, and then deposit the

> Fees. This was bad karma working against

> the Good Bhagya (As of now apparently).

>

> You may replicate the above examples with instances

> from your own Life, when a Bad Bhagya was given

> a right approach, while a good Bhagya was approached

> wrongly.Also Good Bhagya with Good Karma, and bad

> Bhagya made worser with Bad Karmas.

>

> Thus you may understand the working of Bhagya

> and Karma.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , " gupta089 " wrote:

> >

> > BHASKAR JI

> > NAMASKAR

> > Thanks Sir,

> > I know that you only,can tell answers to such types

> > of questions.

> > Your explaination is correct.Iam deeply thinking on

> > it.Please tell me what is the meaning of the word

> > " Dridha "

> > Iam obliged to you.I will feel thankfull to you

> > if you continue the message on Karma and Bhagya

> >

> > REGARDS

> > Dhananjay

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Dhananjay,

> > >

> > > You need a Krishna to guide you.

> > > I like your arguments.

> > > A Planet is known as Graha, means

> > > ghar mein grahanam karna (To house)

> > > aur grasit karna. (In the mind-to envelope)

> > > They do have their influence on our minds.

> > > But only till the Dridha Destiny allows.

> > > Not more than that. This is the play of Maya,

> > > but only that Maya which we ourselves attract

> > > through our Karmas of present or Past Births

> > >

> > > Bhagya is that part of Maya which we have

> > > attracted , known as - Individual destiny.

> > > The Dridha Karma (Strong actions), of past

> > > and present Births will attract strong Results

> > > ( Dridha Bhagya) evil or Good,

> > > from which we can have no escape.

> > > For example persons born blind,lame, or

> > > who loose parents early, are all paying

> > > for past evil Dridha Karmas.

> > > Persons born in rich families, or born in

> > > poor ones, but grow rich overnight, due

> > > to Lotteries etc, persons who get good

> > > looking and Loving wives, healthy bodies

> > > without sickness etc. are all earning

> > > through their Dridha good karmas and

> > > attract Dridh Saubhagya.

> > >

> > > Karma is different.

> > > The same people above who got good

> > > loving wives, if yet ill treat their good and

> > > caring wives, are now doing kukarma or

> > > evil deeds.

> > > The same people who are born lame but

> > > open hospitals or care centres for other

> > > handicapped brethren are into sukarma.

> > > That is the Karma, which is in our

> > > hands, and the previous one which

> > > we received on our own , is our

> > > Bhagya.

> > >

> > > The Bhagya may have given you a good Liver

> > > in Your body, but through your own Karmas, you can

> > > drink daily and spoil it. That is Karma.

> > > The Bhagya may have given you a healthy body, but

> > > you may use it to terrorise people or small

> > > family members. That is Karma.

> > >

> > > Planets never teach or put evil ideas in our mind.

> > > It is our own evil thoughts which makes us commit

> > > wrong actions. Planets do not teach anyone

> > > to rape, or plant Bombs and kill innocent

> > > people. Planets do not teach us to eye our

> > > neighbours beautiful wife, it is our own dirty mind

> > > and weak sanskaar which compels us so.

> > > God has given us " Discrimination

> > > power " or buddhi , One may use it with

> > > his own God gifted free will, in either

> > > subuddhi or durbuddhi.

> > >

> > > The planets would only influence you till

> > > the Fate written in your destiny is not met,

> > > and once that is met, You are free to

> > > act and do naveen Karma.

> > >

> > > I can continue, and I want to, but this

> > > mail would become very long.

> > > So lets rest now.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " gupta089 " wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar ji, S.C. Kursija

> > > > and others

> > > > Namaskar

> > > >

> > > > Excellent

> > > > Excellent Sir,

> > > > You are at the right point.

> > > > Planets and stars effect our mind (Maan)by some force.

> > > > Moon represent our mind.

> > > > Planets create fear,terror, hesitation, attraction

> > > > and many others feelings.

> > > > they press us to do wrong deeds by affecting our mind.

> > > > Planets create affection and hatred in the mind for

> > > > others and accordingly we treat them.

> > > > Planets gives us new ideas in our mind and accordingly

> > > > we do work.

> > > >

> > > > BY MIND WE DO KARMA

> > > > Now Bhagya is decided by the planets.These planets

> > > > effect our mind and with this affected mind we do the Karma.

> > > > Then how BHAGYA AND KARMA ARE DIFFERENT.

> > > > Please clarify

> > > > Through some light on this point. Iam confussed.

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Dhananjay Gupta.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > // it is clear that Bhagya has got

> > > > > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what

> > > > > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the

> > > > > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations.

> > > > > The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore

> > > > > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of

> > > > > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes

> > > > > kundan. Please take care of your Karma. //

> > > > >

> > > > > Beautiful Post.

> > > > > Pl send above to all Forums. People should realise

> > > > > that " Karma " is " Pradhan " . Nothing can

> > > > > substitute that. Without " Karma " all " Yogas " are

> > > > > defunct. Marriage written for native, but if he

> > > > > does not sit for saath pheras, how can the

> > > > > marriage be performed ? Children written in

> > > > > destniy, but if native does not conjugate , then

> > > > > how children will come ? Just as in these cases

> > > > > God did not come down to do all this, neither

> > > > > " Bhagya " , because " Bhagya " is not a physical living

> > > > > entity, but it is just a " Promise " which can only be

> > > > > met with appropriate corresponding " Karma " .

> > > > > Sam way all great Gajkesari Yogas, Dhana Yogas,

> > > > > Panch mahapurusha Yogas, Rajyogas,

> > > > > etcetra, stand to nought

> > > > > if a native sits doing nothing, but just spending

> > > > > his time leisurely eating free food given by Parents,

> > > > > Uncle,or else waiting for destiny to arrive.

> > > > >

> > > > > Your post was a lovely treat to read.

> > > > >

> > > > > Good.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " S.C. Kursija "

> >

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dera members,

> > > > > > To day, October 12, 2007 is the beginning of Durga

> > > > > > Puja. The Navaratri begins. She is Maha-Shakti or

> > > > > > Supreme Energy. She manifests chiefly in three forms:

> > > > > > Maha-Saraswati, Maha-Lakshmi and Maha-Kali: Creation,

> > > > > > Conservation and Annihilation, i.e. Birth, Sustenance

> > > > > > and Death, the three faces of life. By worshiping

> > > > > > Durga, we worship the cycle of life. In Durga

> > > > > > Saptshati, the Maha-Shakti has been worshiped as " O

> > > > > > Mother Durga, you remove all fear of those who

> > > > > > remember you in trouble. You bestow all your wisdom,

> > > > > > compassion in your heart to those who remember you in

> > > > > > their happiness. You are the dispeller of poverty,

> > > > > > pain and fear. "

> > > > > > May Mother Durga bless you and remove your poverty,

> > > > > > pain and fear. She may grant you knowledge, wealth and

> > > > > > happiness.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > According to my little knowledge, the energy

> > > > > > represents activities, the Karma. Our sages have made

> > > > > > 10th house, Karma, as the most powerful Kendra among

> > > > > > the Kendra. The 9th house, Bhagya, is 12th to 10th,

> > > > > > Karma, the negation of Karma. If the lords of 10th and

> > > > > > 9th combined in auspicious house they produce most

> > > > > > powerful Raja-Yoga But it is clear that Bhagya has got

> > > > > > its limitations. One cannot get more or less than what

> > > > > > is written in his Bhagya. So do not care for the

> > > > > > Bhagya. The 10th house has not got any limitations.

> > > > > > The more you do Karma the more you will get. Therefore

> > > > > > the Karma is superior to Bhagya. They are two sides of

> > > > > > the coin. When Karma and Bhagya combined, gold becomes

> > > > > > kundan. Please take care of your Karma.

> > > > > > Mother Durga may guide you through the cycle of life

> > > > > > and bless you.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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Dear Dhananjay,

 

Examples of charts ., many can be taken.

 

When you have already arrived at the conclusion,

that this person is not interested in doing any work,

then how can one help him ?

When you have already decided that his bodily exertions

are not going to bring any results to him,

then what is the sense in suggesting

him what to do ?

 

Are we all not wasting our time, talking on his horoscope ?

If all is decided already as per your dictums ?

 

When you say he is not going to do any karma,

then what is the need for us to

study such a persons horoscope and waste our

precious time?

 

And you may be mistaken if you think that he is not

doing Karma .

 

Karma also means breathing.

karma also means having a bath daily and eating food

and excretion.

Karma also means thinking- good or bad.

Karma also means - his coming to you

for his marriage.

 

Exactly where do you find difference

in opinion in Bhagya and Karma

Theory is still unclear.

Please explain exactly what you mean ?

I am not going to look his horoscope

because i have stopped reading for free,

as per my Gurus Order.,unless it is an emergency.

And 10th Lord in 8th , does not mean that

he will not do any Karmas. On the contrary

Karma is shown through the 8th house

significations. Karma is also shown by the

Planets in 10th, Navamsha Lord of 10th,

Dashamsa, etc.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " gupta089 " <gupta089 wrote:

>

>

> Dear Bhaskarji and Krishnamurthy ji

> Thanks,but i do not agree with you on KARMA AND BHAGYA.

>

> lets take an example chart of a person who came to

> me for his marriage discussion.Iam not at all

> professional. He is in my relation.

> D.O.B-- 21st Oct 1967

> T.O.B - 06:55 AM

> P.O.B - Allahabad.

>

> The person has Duryoga in his horoscope that is-

> Lord of 10th house is situated in the 8th house.

> As you know - Person with Duryoga do not derive

> the fruits of their own bodily exertion.Same is

> true for him.

>

> He is not doing any work even at this age,neither

> he is intrested.He do not have ability nor

> educational qualification to do work.He can not

> do cheap work because he is born in good service

> class family.Family do not have any business even.

>

> This person does not have good thinking because

> MOON is in 8th.

> PLANETS are restricting him from doing any KARMA

> How can such a person do any karma in his present

> birth, to make future birth (Bhagya)good.

> Please see his horoscope and then answer.

> REGARDS

> Dhananjay

>

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More over, I do not accept to the proposition that a person is not

doing any karma. We all do some karma or the other. The person may

be thinking a lot; who knows? Thinking is a karma, talking is a

karma; physical activities are not the only karmas we consider. In

fact, he may not be doing a karma visible to others. As astrologers

we cannot and should not declare that one is not doing any karma. In

fact we have no right to say so.

 

The fact that 10th lord is in the 8th house may be a duryoga with

respect to materialistic gains (that too, only certain type of

materialistic gains); but it indicates a myriad of other things

where his destiny must be pulling him; karma related to

spirituality, or philosophy, or astrology, or psychology, or any

emergency service such as ambulence, or insurance industry, or

hospital emergency staff, or nurse or many things. There are

innumerable areas of work related to the 8th house. We should look

into those areas instead of getting obsessed with the idea that he

is not doing any karma. Whether the person is lazy or not, we shd

also look into his 3rd house. Again, being lazy does not mean he is

not doing any karma; may be he is wasting considerable portion of

his lifetime, which may be driven by his karma in past live; we all

have to reap the past karma results; neverthelss we may or may not

improve the past karma status.

 

At this time I do not have time to look into this horoscope, hence I

just gave some pointers.

 

Regards,

Satya

 

, " litsol " <litsol wrote:

>

> Gupta Ji,

>

> Have u thought over his previous birth's karmas, what 5'th, 9'th,

> 10'th or 11'th house promises, what dasha - antardasha he is

> going,what planets are participitaing in it ?

>

> there should be answer ...

>

> regards,

> Lalit Mishra.

>

> , " gupta089 " <gupta089@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Bhaskarji and Krishnamurthy ji

> > Thanks,but i do not agree with you on KARMA AND BHAGYA.

> >

> > lets take an example chart of a person who came to

> > me for his marriage discussion.Iam not at all

> > professional. He is in my relation.

> > D.O.B-- 21st Oct 1967

> > T.O.B - 06:55 AM

> > P.O.B - Allahabad.

> >

> > The person has Duryoga in his horoscope that is-

> > Lord of 10th house is situated in the 8th house.

> > As you know - Person with Duryoga do not derive

> > the fruits of their own bodily exertion.Same is

> > true for him.

> >

> > He is not doing any work even at this age,neither

> > he is intrested.He do not have ability nor

> > educational qualification to do work.He can not

> > do cheap work because he is born in good service

> > class family.Family do not have any business even.

> >

> > This person does not have good thinking because

> > MOON is in 8th.

> > PLANETS are restricting him from doing any KARMA

> > How can such a person do any karma in his present

> > birth, to make future birth (Bhagya)good.

> > Please see his horoscope and then answer.

> > REGARDS

> > Dhananjay

> >

>

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Namaskar Bhooshan Priya ji

 

Happy DASARA to you and your family.

 

I need your blessings too.

 

God Bless You

 

Pavan Kumar

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Dear ramanujam,

 

Many thanks for the greetings.

 

Goddess Durga bless you

 

Priya

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " ramanujam_ps2003 "

<ramanujam_ps2003 wrote:

>

> Respected Guruji,namasthe.

> Please accept our heartfelt greetings on the occasion of VIJAYA

DASAMI

> festival.May Goddess AMBIKA shower her blessings.

> Wishing you all the best.

> With regards

> P.S.Ramanuja charyulu

>

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Dear Pavan Kumar,

 

Thank you for remembering on this day.

Goddess Durga bless you

My blessings are always with you

 

Priya

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " yangaldaspk "

<yangaldaspk wrote:

>

>

> Namaskar Bhooshan Priya ji

>

> Happy DASARA to you and your family.

>

> I need your blessings too.

>

> God Bless You

>

> Pavan Kumar

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Dear Virat ji and Krishnamurthy ji

Sorry for the delay my internet was not working

Thanks for your response

Sir i agree with you.Mars and rahu dasa were

really dificult for him.Guru dasa definitly

will be better.

As the real condition indicates i think he is

not going to earn a single rupee.

After watching his horoscope i thought he

will get married this year in may or june

in guru antardasa.But my prediction became

false.Person has combination of no marriage.

As saturn antardasa will not be good for

him, i am worried.

please assist me, i am asking he will get

married or not in this life.

I will continue the discussion on karma

and bhagya tomorrow.

Regards

Dhananjay

 

 

 

 

, Virat Soni <virat_soni77

wrote:

>

> please check the mahadasa.

>

> now operating mahadasa is guru.

>

> in the young age ,operating mahadasa of mars and rahu have

restricted his karma.

> because mars afflicting 10 house and rahu in 7 house

>

> but now for past 1 year the guru mahadasa is operating.

> he should have felt improvement of everyday life work.

>

> this persons life should improve slowly and steadily.

>

> what do u think?

>

> regards

> virat

>

>

>

>

> Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998

>

> Wednesday, October 17, 2007 3:59:27 PM

> Re: Greetings

>

> Dear Gupta ji,

>

> A state of a person 'today' is a result of the actions of that

> person 'yesterday'. That is all. Nothing else! That is what I

> believe in and I cannot not prove it to you like a scientific

> proposition using an experiment.

>

> I don't understand your logic! Just because this person is not

> in a state of mind to perform good deeds, it cannot be taken as

> a proof to disprove the theory of Karma! I am not sure what you

> are you trying to prove by giving that example.

>

> It is OK if you don't agree with my belief. And, thanks for

> airing your views. But, you have not stated what you believe in.

> Please do share. If I find value in it I will accept it.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> --- gupta089 <gupta089 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

>

> >

> > Dear Bhaskarji and Krishnamurthy ji

> > Thanks,but i do not agree with you on KARMA AND BHAGYA.

> >

> > lets take an example chart of a person who came to

> > me for his marriage discussion.Iam not at all

> > professional. He is in my relation.

> > D.O.B-- 21st Oct 1967

> > T.O.B - 06:55 AM

> > P.O.B - Allahabad.

> >

> > The person has Duryoga in his horoscope that is-

> > Lord of 10th house is situated in the 8th house.

> > As you know - Person with Duryoga do not derive

> > the fruits of their own bodily exertion.Same is

> > true for him.

> >

> > He is not doing any work even at this age,neither

> > he is intrested.He do not have ability nor

> > educational qualification to do work.He can not

> > do cheap work because he is born in good service

> > class family.Family do not have any business even.

> >

> > This person does not have good thinking because

> > MOON is in 8th.

> > PLANETS are restricting him from doing any KARMA

> > How can such a person do any karma in his present

> > birth, to make future birth (Bhagya)good.

> > Please see his horoscope and then answer.

> > REGARDS

> > Dhananjay

> >

> >

>

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