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June 12, 2000

I did not get this message. Can you resend it?

Sanjay

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> Linga was dreamt in a house. Saturn atmakarak could indicate some

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June 13, 2000

I still cannot read anything. Please get a decent e-mail address. You can

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Best Wishes

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November 7, 2000

Dear Pearl,

I have no doubt about your sincerity. If you write a few words in a month, I

shall fell honored that a very HONEST person has increased the Satwa of this

Ashram

Rahu is bad for you. This is a changing phase and change is the way of

nature. It is the way of cleansing the world, so cleanse and become more

Satwik.

Jupiter will be much much better no doubt.

Best Wishes

Sanjay

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Pearl Finn <pearls

SJVC <varahamihira >

Monday, October 16, 2000 11:10 AM

[sri Guru] (unknown)

> Dear Sanjay, apologies in taking so long in getting back to you,

> I am very honoured that you found my contributions to your class

> of value as I always felt like a small child in University. That you

> have accepted me as a student is a great blessing and some

> day I hope to be worthy of your gift.

>

> As I am now running Ketu/Rahu dasa, in GE/SA my 12th and

> 6th axis, Rahu is really doing a number on me. Mistakes are

> commonplace as are conflicts, my mediation has suffered

> and my thinkng is definitely more Tamas than Satvic.

> As the Guru needs service I have committed myself to Service

> work with the fellowship of Alcoholics Anonymous where 20 years

> ago I was introduced to a spiritual solution to my strong Rajas/Tamas.

> The programme of AA saved my life and it is time for me to pass it on

> to others who might need it in my community.

>

> Also I would like to apologies to everybody for my failure

> to produce the dictionary as promised. I did the research and

> thoroughly enjoyed compiling the list of 1400 approx. words,

> I was very proud of my ability to do it and therefore was

> devasted when I lost it on the day I tried to send it to you

> due to my lack of computer skills. That happened in May

> and since then things have being getting further out of

> control. I lost my help in the shop, got health problems,

> my good friend passed away from Cancer and meanwhile

> the Email's were piling up.

>

> In the last 2 weeks I have finally cleared the 100's of Emails.

> Acupuncture had helped with the ailments, a new helper has

> started in the shop and therefore I hope to be able to start

> contributing more.

>

> It is great to see Steve and Brendan here both of whom I have

> had the pleasure to meet and been inspired by their contributions

> to my study of Jyotish.

>

> Thank you again for having me here and for being so tolerant

> and patient.

>

> Respectfully and sincerely yours, Pearl Finn.

>

> OM TAT SAT

> Archive: varahamihira

> Info: varahamihira/info.html

>

December 25, 2000

Dear Anton,

What is stated is completely against the shastras. Astrology and the 'Black'

and 'Red Book' type i.e Lal Kitabs etc is noy good as this brings

misfortune. Jyotish is a blessed science. Take the small example I gave to

Syamasundara Das about not predicting the death of Sadhu's, yet he insists

on doing so. Well, there are small things one learns from elders and others

who have tread this path before us. Always use this knowledge for the

welfare of others and Vishnu Himself will take good care of you.

Blessings

Sanjay Rath

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Anton Kuznetsov <tony

Friday, December 22, 2000 11:37 PM

[sri Guru] (unknown)

> Jaya Jagannatha!

>

> Namaskara, dear friends.

>

> I received a letter from a Jyotish pandit from India where he

expressed

> following opinion:

>

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> From : Pandit Sharma

> To : Anton Kuznetsov

> Subj : Re: Jyotish question

>

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> [ ... ]

>

> I am a third generation brahmin from a priest family and as a unwritten

rule we

> never use astrology for our own use or analysis. I have not had my chart

done

> or read till date. I have seen many big astrologers with great tragedies

in

> their lives and their childrens lives that they could not see. Also even

when

> pointed out some big faults and bad times in their horoscopes they tended

to

> disagree searching scriptures and other writers to get a different

opinion.

>

> Just for an example if I did your horoscope and said to you that this

project

> of yours is a complete waste of time will you agree and drop it? No you

will

> justify your actions, hopes and aspirations quoting me some technical

points in

> your favor. This was just an example as an analogy. My advise is just see

the

> panchang and select a good date and time and give it your best shot.

>

> Also you will succeed in predictions and fame and fortune if you dont do

> astrology for your self and your family.

>

> Let me know when your book is published and I will buy a copy.

>

> Regards

> Pandit Sharma

>

> What do you think?

> Does anybody agree with such approach?

>

> Thank you in advance.

>

> Anton Kuznetsov

> Donetsk, Ukraine

>

> Jaya Guru Deva

>

> OM TAT SAT

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> Info: varahamihira/info.html

>

November 1, 2001

OM SRI GURAVE NAMAHDear Prasana,

Don't be sorry about this. We all have our compulsions. Just join SJVC first and then work out those basics. We are not missing any flight and I am in no hurry to leave this world so early without ensuring that the day someone walks into your room, without even looking at the chart you know the problem and the solution also. The rest is confirmation..thats the Jyotish I want to see you be.Best RegardsSanjay Rathhttp://sanjayrath.tripod.com

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varahamihira

Tuesday, October 30, 2001 8:15 PM

[Hare Rama Krishna] (unknown)

namaskar gurusI am sorry not to submit the answers. I am somewhatbusy with my working. regardsprasannaMake a great connection at Personals.http://personals.OM TAT SATArchive: varahamihiraFiles: varahamihiravarahamihira/database

December 16, 2002

Dear Neha,

It is always easy for an astrologer to know problem

before suggesting any remedies. If you have any

problem OR any specific query, let me know. These can

be used to crosscheck everything before telling you.

If you are running through any bad period, it is also

desirable to know when did it start.

Punit Pandey

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February 28, 2003

Sonu ji,

Yes, that is the site www.originallalkitab.com Mr. Virender Joshi has been working on for a while and I am glad that it is available now. I'd recommend one and all to visit the site. I can take a very slight bit of credit here - Pt Som Dutt ji gave me the honour of translating his notes for this site.

Actually, Pt Som Dutt ji is also in India (Panchkula) these days and will be there till about June, 2003. I will ask Virender to email you the address and phone number in case you wish to contact him.

Incidentally, I haven't forgotten about your brother's horoscope, it is in my "things to do" folder. Various things have been keeping me very occupied (one of which is the never ending snow - Washington DC has broken all records for snow since 1899.)

Best wishes,

Rajinder Bhatia

Sonu Sonu <delhi_tagore wrote:

Mr Rajinder Bhatia,Hello!While Surfing on net for reading stuff related toLal_kitab I came across a site(www.originallalkitab.com).It was mentioned on thatsite that grandsons of Pt RoopChand Joshi arepractising this methodolgy of astrology in India atPanchkula. I hereby request you to authenticate this informationand also if possible please tell us the address of theconcerned persons.This way atleast people who are in great need of helpcan be helped.If anyone else know something in this regard pleaseinform me at the earlist.Waiting for your response.Respectfully.Sonu

March 4, 2003

Dear Rajinder Sir,Many thanks for your reply!!!Please email me the contact-address of Pt Somdutt at Panchkula Asap.

Incase you get some spare time then analyse my brother's horroscope.I will be greatful to you always.

RespectfullySonu

Rajinder Bhatia <rajinderbhatia2002 wrote:

Sonu ji, Yes, that is the site www.originallalkitab.com Mr. Virender Joshi has been working on for a while and I am glad that it is available now. I'd recommend one and all to visit the site. I can take a very slight bit of credit here - Pt Som Dutt ji gave me the honour of translating his notes for this site. Actually, Pt Som Dutt ji is also in India (Panchkula) these days and will be there till about June, 2003. I will ask Virender to email you the address and phone number in case you wish to contact him. Incidentally, I haven't forgotten about your brother's horoscope, it is in my "things to do" folder. Various things have been keeping me very occupied (one of which is the never ending snow - Washington DC has broken all records for snow since 1899.) Best wishes, Rajinder Bhatia Sonu Sonu <delhi_tagore wrote: Mr Rajinder Bhatia,Hello!While Surfing on net for reading stuff related toLal_kitab I came across a site(www.originallalkitab.com).It was mentioned on thatsite that grandsons of Pt RoopChand Joshi arepractising this methodolgy of astrology in India atPanchkula. I hereby request you to authenticate this informationand also if possible please tell us the address of theconcerned persons.This way atleast people who are in great need of helpcan be helped.If anyone else know something in this regard pleaseinform me at the earlist.Waiting for your response.Respectfully.Sonu

May 2, 2003

Ashim Ji,

Thanks for you note. We'd all be very interested in knowing some of your parents' experiences with Pt Roop Chand ji. Thus far, in this forum at least, the members have heard about Panditji from me only. Would you please share some of their impressions? I'd also like to draw your attention to a web site put together by Panditji's grandson:

www.originallalkitab.com

It is under construction and it is not coming up as fast as we'd like to see it. But the process will spped up when Pt Som Dutt ji (Pt Roop Chand ji's son) returns from India in a couple of months.

I am extremely busy with my work these days and have a big backlog of horoscopes. But I assure you that I will get back to you in turn. In the meantime, I'd like to invite other learned members of the forum to come forward with their analysis and advice for you.

Persian and Arabic Lal Kitab is just a myth perpetuated by some vested interests but people like your parents can attest to the fact Lal Kitab is Pandit Roop Chand ji's creation. Even if you don't remember having been there, you should consider yourself to be lucky to have been to his baithak.

I am sorry but currently there aren't any good LalKitab transliterations and perhaps next to nothing by way of a LalKitab in English. Someone should take this up as a project.

Welcome to the forum and we look forward to hearing from you.

Respectfully,

Rajinder Bhatiaashimkumar2003 <ashimkumar2003 wrote:

Dear Mr.BhatiaI am absolutely thrilled to have finally made some contact with someone who knew Pt.Roop Chand Joshi !!! My parents have had the good fortune of having met panditji on various occasions. Even I had visited once but was too young to recollect much. Even we were surprised to learn that the LalKitab was written in Persian as my mother insisted that it was Panditji's own book, but having no alternate way of ascertaining the facts, we assumed that perhaps we were wrong. I cannot tell you how much of a relief it is to learn that out information was correct ! In fact Panditji gave my father a copy of the Lal Kitab (my father could read Urdu) but he later gave it to someone else who wanted to learn and practice it. I toohave tried to study the Lal Kitab, though not in Urdu, but the hindi transliterations. Unfortunately, Hindi not being my strong point, the going is extremely slow. Would you care to look at my horoscope and let me know about my business, which has been not-so-good for some time now ?? My details are as follows :Date of Birth : 11 October 1971Time of Birth : 10:13a.mPLace : New DelhiWarm RegardsAshim Kumar

May 3, 2003

Dear Mr. Bhatia

I was just tellin my mother about the forum, and she told us that we were really fortunate to have met someone like Panditji. I shall write down some of our experiences for you and all the other forum members in another mail.

In the meanwhile, could you let me have Pt. Som Dutt Joshi's contact number and address at Panchkula so that I can go visit him ??

I shall be highly grateful.

Regards

Ashim KumarRajinder Bhatia <rajinderbhatia2002 wrote:

Ashim Ji,

Thanks for you note. We'd all be very interested in knowing some of your parents' experiences with Pt Roop Chand ji. Thus far, in this forum at least, the members have heard about Panditji from me only. Would you please share some of their impressions? I'd also like to draw your attention to a web site put together by Panditji's grandson:

www.originallalkitab.com

It is under construction and it is not coming up as fast as we'd like to see it. But the process will spped up when Pt Som Dutt ji (Pt Roop Chand ji's son) returns from India in a couple of months.

I am extremely busy with my work these days and have a big backlog of horoscopes. But I assure you that I will get back to you in turn. In the meantime, I'd like to invite other learned members of the forum to come forward with their analysis and advice for you.

Persian and Arabic Lal Kitab is just a myth perpetuated by some vested interests but people like your parents can attest to the fact Lal Kitab is Pandit Roop Chand ji's creation. Even if you don't remember having been there, you should consider yourself to be lucky to have been to his baithak.

I am sorry but currently there aren't any good LalKitab transliterations and perhaps next to nothing by way of a LalKitab in English. Someone should take this up as a project.

Welcome to the forum and we look forward to hearing from you.

Respectfully,

Rajinder Bhatiaashimkumar2003 <ashimkumar2003 wrote:

Dear Mr.BhatiaI am absolutely thrilled to have finally made some contact with someone who knew Pt.Roop Chand Joshi !!! My parents have had the good fortune of having met panditji on various occasions. Even I had visited once but was too young to recollect much. Even we were surprised to learn that the LalKitab was written in Persian as my mother insisted that it was Panditji's own book, but having no alternate way of ascertaining the facts, we assumed that perhaps we were wrong. I cannot tell you how much of a relief it is to learn that out information was correct ! In fact Panditji gave my father a copy of the Lal Kitab (my father could read Urdu) but he later gave it to someone else who wanted to learn and practice it. I toohave tried to study the Lal Kitab, though not in Urdu, but the hindi transliterations. Unfortunately, Hindi not being my strong point, the going is extremely slow. Would you care to look at my horoscope and let me know about my business, which has been not-so-good for some time now ?? My details are as follows :Date of Birth : 11 October 1971Time of Birth : 10:13a.mPLace : New DelhiWarm RegardsAshim Kumar

May 4, 2003

DEAR BHATIA JI I HAVE COPY OF HAND WRITTEN

WITH ME I SEE IT AS DIIFFERENT THAN ONE MY FRIEND

AND NEIGHBOUR IN JULLUNDUR USES TO HAVE IT

YOU ARE RIGHT THERE MAY BE DUPLICATE ONE

DO YOU HAVE THE ORIGINALL ONE LAL KITAB

rajinder

--- Rajinder Bhatia <rajinderbhatia2002

wrote:

> Ashim Ji,Thanks for you note. We'd all be very

> interested in knowing some of your parents'

> experiences with Pt Roop Chand ji. Thus far, in this

> forum at least, the members have heard about

> Panditji from me only. Would you please share some

> of their impressions? I'd also like to draw your

> attention to a web site put together by Panditji's

> grandson:www.originallalkitab.comIt is under

> construction and it is not coming up as fast as we'd

> like to see it. But the process will spped up when

> Pt Som Dutt ji (Pt Roop Chand ji's son) returns from

> India in a couple of months. I am extremely busy

> with my work these days and have a big backlog of

> horoscopes. But I assure you that I will get back to

> you in turn. In the meantime, I'd like to invite

> other learned members of the forum to come forward

> with their analysis and advice for you. Persian and

> Arabic Lal Kitab is just a myth perpetuated by some

> vested interests but people like your parents can

> attest to the fact Lal Kitab is Pandit Roop Chand

> ji's creation. Even if you don't remember having

> been there, you should consider yourself to be lucky

> to have been to his baithak.I am sorry but currently

> there aren't any good LalKitab transliterations and

> perhaps next to nothing by way of a LalKitab in

> English. Someone should take this up as a project.

> Welcome to the forum and we look forward to hearing

> from you.Respectfully,Rajinder Bhatia

> ashimkumar2003 <ashimkumar2003

> wrote:Dear Mr.Bhatia

>

> I am absolutely thrilled to have finally made some

> contact with

> someone who knew Pt.Roop Chand Joshi !!! My parents

> have had the good

> fortune of having met panditji on various occasions.

> Even I had

> visited once but was too young to recollect much.

> Even we were

> surprised to learn that the LalKitab was written in

> Persian as my

> mother insisted that it was Panditji's own book, but

> having no

> alternate way of ascertaining the facts, we assumed

> that perhaps we

> were wrong. I cannot tell you how much of a relief

> it is to learn

> that out information was correct ! In fact Panditji

> gave my father a

> copy of the Lal Kitab (my father could read Urdu)

> but he later gave

> it to someone else who wanted to learn and practice

> it.

>

> I toohave tried to study the Lal Kitab, though not

> in Urdu, but the

> hindi transliterations. Unfortunately, Hindi not

> being my strong

> point, the going is extremely slow. Would you care

> to look at my

> horoscope and let me know about my business, which

> has been not-so-

> good for some time now ?? My details are as follows

> :

>

> Date of Birth : 11 October 1971

> Time of Birth : 10:13a.m

> PLace : New Delhi

>

> Warm Regards

> Ashim Kumar

>

May 4, 2003

Rajinder Nath Ji,

There are five editions of LalKitab (see details on www.originallalkitab.com) and the one that you have, may be a different edition from what your neighbor has. Even if both of you have the same edition, you or your neighbor may have a transliterated copy. Unfortunately, no two transliterated (or what you term as "duplicates") have the same material. Just keep in mind that Pt Roop Chand ji wrote everything exclusively in Urdu.

Yes, I have the actual 1952 edition (One purchased in 1965 from Calcutta Photo House from Hall Bazar, Amritsar for Rs 31 - 5 Annas) and the other given to me by Panditji himself) and I have photocopies of all other published editions. You can't imagine the amount of trouble I have gone into to get those. For example, I managed to borrow "Lal Kitab ke Armaan" from India's former president, Giani Zail Singh ji's personal library. After copying, it was duly returned to the late Gianiji. In one case, I just lucked out. Someone let me copy the Lal Kitab on palmistry provided I read his horoscope. Another person made me run in circles for at least ten years before he permitted me to let me copy the two editions that he had.

If you can provide details on the contents of your book, I may be able to figure out which edition you have.

Respectfully,

Rajinder BhatiaRajinder Nath <jinderman wrote:

DEAR BHATIA JI I HAVE COPY OF HAND WRITTEN WITH ME I SEE IT AS DIIFFERENT THAN ONE MY FRIEND AND NEIGHBOUR IN JULLUNDUR USES TO HAVE IT YOU ARE RIGHT THERE MAY BE DUPLICATE ONEDO YOU HAVE THE ORIGINALL ONE LAL KITABrajinder--- Rajinder Bhatia <rajinderbhatia2002wrote:> Ashim Ji,Thanks for you note. We'd all be very> interested in knowing some of your parents'> experiences with Pt Roop Chand ji. Thus far, in this> forum at least, the members have heard about> Panditji from me only. Would you please share some> of their impressions? I'd also like to draw your> attention to a web site put together by Panditji's> grandson:www.originallalkitab.comIt is under> construction and it is not coming up as fast as we'd> like to see it. But the process will spped up when> Pt Som Dutt ji (Pt Roop Chand ji's son) returns from> India in a couple of months. I am extremely busy> with my work these days and have a big backlog of> horoscopes. But I assure you that I will get back to> you in turn. In the meantime, I'd like to invite> other learned members of the forum to come forward> with their analysis and advice for you. Persian and> Arabic Lal Kitab is just a myth perpetuated by some> vested interests but people like your parents can> attest to the fact Lal Kitab is Pandit Roop Chand> ji's creation. Even if you don't remember having> been there, you should consider yourself to be lucky> to have been to his baithak.I am sorry but currently> there aren't any good LalKitab transliterations and> perhaps next to nothing by way of a LalKitab in> English. Someone should take this up as a project.> Welcome to the forum and we look forward to hearing> from you.Respectfully,Rajinder Bhatia> ashimkumar2003 <ashimkumar2003> wrote:Dear Mr.Bhatia> > I am absolutely thrilled to have finally made some> contact with > someone who knew Pt.Roop Chand Joshi !!! My parents> have had the good > fortune of having met panditji on various occasions.> Even I had > visited once but was too young to recollect much.> Even we were > surprised to learn that the LalKitab was written in> Persian as my > mother insisted that it was Panditji's own book, but> having no > alternate way of ascertaining the facts, we assumed> that perhaps we > were wrong. I cannot tell you how much of a relief> it is to learn > that out information was correct ! In fact Panditji> gave my father a > copy of the Lal Kitab (my father could read Urdu)> but he later gave > it to someone else who wanted to learn and practice> it. > > I toohave tried to study the Lal Kitab, though not> in Urdu, but the > hindi transliterations. Unfortunately, Hindi not> being my strong > point, the going is extremely slow. Would you care> to look at my > horoscope and let me know about my business, which> has been not-so-> good for some time now ?? My details are as follows> :> > Date of Birth : 11 October 1971> Time of Birth : 10:13a.m> PLace : New Delhi> > Warm Regards> Ashim Kumar> > > > > >

May 5, 2003

rajinder bhatia ji,

book i have now belong to mandir and i can get when

ever i want it as i think it is more useable for

people who seeking help and had some intrest in

astrology.

i like the poety part of it and strees on karma and

is mot

mantar yantar it is fact what goes around come around.

infact i really dont see where is more tamasik remedy

in this book may be i am lazy to to go in more

calculative part of astrology and i find compromise in

shri roopchand ji book and i think inwestern way he

should be like edgar casey who once lived in virginia

i have some of books of edgar casey.

my nieghbour mr sharma i think did meet mr roopchand

or his family he created my interest in astrology and

i use to go to him get some lession.

i must mention a incident my friend arneet jain after

his first born child his wife has tetnus and there

was hardly any hope and i took him to mr sharma and

while looking advice from the lalkitab he mention

his wife will come to life after two weeks and it did

gave him hope and it came true and i was told by mr

sharma i will marry a foreigner so i think it might be

karmic and i really like a book almost parrllel to

lal kitab karmic astrology it has 4 parts

it is all about nodes and you know lal kitab has

mention about hisab kitab of karma and we have

wrritten our own fate must read you will enjoy it

i always get it from virginia public liabrary when i

want to read it

regard

rajinder

--- Rajinder Bhatia <rajinderbhatia2002

wrote:

> Rajinder Nath Ji,There are five editions of LalKitab

> (see details on www.originallalkitab.com) and the

> one that you have, may be a different edition from

> what your neighbor has. Even if both of you have the

> same edition, you or your neighbor may have a

> transliterated copy. Unfortunately, no two

> transliterated (or what you term as " duplicates " )

> have the same material. Just keep in mind that Pt

> Roop Chand ji wrote everything exclusively in Urdu.

> Yes, I have the actual 1952 edition (One purchased

> in 1965 from Calcutta Photo House from Hall Bazar,

> Amritsar for Rs 31 - 5 Annas) and the other given to

> me by Panditji himself) and I have photocopies of

> all other published editions. You can't imagine the

> amount of trouble I have gone into to get those. For

> example, I managed to borrow " Lal Kitab ke Armaan "

> from India's former president, Giani Zail Singh ji's

> personal library. After copying, it was duly

> returned to the late Gianiji. In one case, I just

> lucked out. Someone let me copy the Lal Kitab on

> palmistry provided I read his horoscope. Another

> person made me run in circles for at least ten years

> before he permitted me to let me copy the two

> editions that he had. If you can provide details on

> the contents of your book, I may be able to figure

> out which edition you have. Respectfully,Rajinder

> Bhatia

>

> Rajinder Nath <jinderman wrote:DEAR

> BHATIA JI I HAVE COPY OF HAND WRITTEN

> WITH ME I SEE IT AS DIIFFERENT THAN ONE MY FRIEND

> AND NEIGHBOUR IN JULLUNDUR USES TO HAVE IT

> YOU ARE RIGHT THERE MAY BE DUPLICATE ONE

> DO YOU HAVE THE ORIGINALL ONE LAL KITAB

> rajinder

> --- Rajinder Bhatia <rajinderbhatia2002

> wrote:

> > Ashim Ji,Thanks for you note. We'd all be very

> > interested in knowing some of your parents'

> > experiences with Pt Roop Chand ji. Thus far, in

> this

> > forum at least, the members have heard about

> > Panditji from me only. Would you please share some

> > of their impressions? I'd also like to draw your

> > attention to a web site put together by Panditji's

> > grandson:www.originallalkitab.comIt is under

> > construction and it is not coming up as fast as

> we'd

> > like to see it. But the process will spped up when

> > Pt Som Dutt ji (Pt Roop Chand ji's son) returns

> from

> > India in a couple of months. I am extremely busy

> > with my work these days and have a big backlog of

> > horoscopes. But I assure you that I will get back

> to

> > you in turn. In the meantime, I'd like to invite

> > other learned members of the forum to come forward

> > with their analysis and advice for you. Persian

> and

> > Arabic Lal Kitab is just a myth perpetuated by

> some

> > vested interests but people like your parents can

> > attest to the fact Lal Kitab is Pandit Roop Chand

> > ji's creation. Even if you don't remember having

> > been there, you should consider yourself to be

> lucky

> > to have been to his baithak.I am sorry but

> currently

> > there aren't any good LalKitab transliterations

> and

> > perhaps next to nothing by way of a LalKitab in

> > English. Someone should take this up as a project.

> > Welcome to the forum and we look forward to

> hearing

> > from you.Respectfully,Rajinder Bhatia

> > ashimkumar2003 <ashimkumar2003

> > wrote:Dear Mr.Bhatia

> >

> > I am absolutely thrilled to have finally made some

> > contact with

> > someone who knew Pt.Roop Chand Joshi !!! My

> parents

> > have had the good

> > fortune of having met panditji on various

> occasions.

> > Even I had

> > visited once but was too young to recollect much.

> > Even we were

> > surprised to learn that the LalKitab was written

> in

> > Persian as my

> > mother insisted that it was Panditji's own book,

> but

> > having no

> > alternate way of ascertaining the facts, we

> assumed

> > that perhaps we

> > were wrong. I cannot tell you how much of a relief

> > it is to learn

> > that out information was correct ! In fact

> Panditji

> > gave my father a

> > copy of the Lal Kitab (my father could read Urdu)

> > but he later gave

> > it to someone else who wanted to learn and

> practice

> > it.

> >

> > I toohave tried to study the Lal Kitab, though not

> > in Urdu, but the

> > hindi transliterations. Unfortunately, Hindi not

> > being my strong

> > point, the going is extremely slow. Would you care

> > to look at my

> > horoscope and let me know about my business, which

> > has been not-so-

> > good for some time now ?? My details are as

> follows

> > :

> >

> > Date of Birth : 11 October 1971

> > Time of Birth : 10:13a.m

> > PLace : New Delhi

> >

> > Warm Regards

> > Ashim Kumar

> >

May 5, 2003

Rajinder Bhatia Ji and all other forum members,

Firstly, apologies for my short and abrupt mail of 3 May. As I was in

office, I could not write in detail. So here goes :

Bhatiaji> 1. I have visited the site www.originallalkitab.com. I am

waiting for it to be fully completed. But I have one small concern

which is that as far as I know, it is expressly forbidden in the Lal

Kitab to charge for helping someone. Now I have seen it mentioned in

other messages in the forum something about a $70 fee but all details

are not yet clear so I am unsure whether there is a fee or not. What

do you think about this ??

2. I fully understand your being busy at work. There is no rush,

please take your time and see my horoscope whenever you are able to

do so at leisure. Regarding the non availability of proper Hindi or

English transliterations, I think perhaps I have no option but to

learn Urdu,only I don't know where I can find a genuine Urdu copy of

the book either !!

Regarding our experiences with Pandit RoopChand Ji, some of his

observations where truly phenomenal !! There is no other way to

describe them. In 1976, my father fell extremly sick...so much so

that the doctors gave up on him pretty much early on. Someone told my

mother to visit panditji in Phelour (Is that how its spelt ?). Now as

my fathers date of birth was not certain, only his photograph was

taken. On the basis of this photograph, Panditji told us some details

of our house that were amazing. He told my mother of certain things

that we had purchased inthe last year, ornaments and a " chuhla " which

he said to bahao in a river. Further he told us that in our house,

there was a " pani nikaalne ki tooti " on the left side of the

house,which should be closed. Now this gets interesting : In

vernacular, one would assume a " tooti " to be a tap. All the bathrooms

had the taps on their RIGHT walls. The kitchen taps also were on the

RIGHT side. So no one could figure out what " tooti " was there on the

left wall. Then we dicovered that in our balcony (we were on the

first floor) rain water used to collect. To get rid of this rain

water, we had got a small outlet pipe made on the LEFT side to drain

out the water into the ground floor lawn !! This was duly closed

alongwith immersing the chuhla and ornaments in the river. Also, he

told my mother to feed bakris for 17 days and then to donate a bakri

after getting my father to touch it. This was also done. Let me tell

you all that it was amazing that in about 1-1/2 months my father

actually sat up from his bed, where he had not been able to move for

almost a whole year. In fact some tests conducted after he got up for

the first time, showed that the disease WAS NOT THERE !! and within 6

months of my mother having met panditji,my father was back at work.

For us it was truly miraculous. And since then we totally swear by

the Lal Kitab.

I hope this has not been too boring. Sorry for such a long post.

Shall let you all have more experiences in another mail.

Bhatiaji, is it possible to contact Pt.Som Dutt ?? I need to see him

urgently. Shall be grateful if you could help.

Ashim Kumar

May 5, 2003

Ashim,

I am not at all surprised by the contents of your Email regarding your family's visit to Pandit Roop Chand ji. In fact, anything short of this would have disappointed me. I have similar incidents to relate about Panditji. But I did not want to harp on that subject constantly lest people should accuse me of being a "paid agent" of the Joshi family. (I am so indebted to them that I do it for free.) The originallalkitab site, when it writes about Panditji, Pt Som Dutt ji or the Lal Kitab system, really does not exaggerate its claims. Now you (all) understand why I have so much regard for the Joshi family and the Lal Kitab system. Which other system in astrology can match such wonderful feats? Diagnose the problem and suggest remedial measure/s to fix the problem rather than making useless predictions. Surely, Panditji did not have the time to document all his knowledge in the books and unfortunately, unlike Edgar Cayce (a Virginia resident, mentioned by Shri Rajinder Nath in this forum yesterday) nobody documented his knowledge and as a result, a vast chunk was lost. Pt Som Dutt ji is, similarly, quite amazing but nobody can be in the same ball park as his father.

Please refer to an earlier Email that I had written in response to Mr Critic. It addresses the issue of charges and improvements that need to be made to the LalKitab site.

Ashim, thanks again for sharing your family's experiences with us and we all look forward to more. Incidentally, did you save any papers that Panditji may have given your parents? He used to return the horoscopes and his own hand-written notes on them.

I sent you an Email separately. Did you get it?

Best regards,

Respectfully,

Rajinder Bhatia

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May 6, 2003

Dear Bhatia ji & other members,

Thank you for your email. I have more incidents that I shall tell in

future emails. I got your email, thanks for the same. I am now

on the lookout for a copy of the Lal Kitab and also an Urdu teacher.

Lets see which I find first !! :-)

Panditji did indeed give my father's horoscope, including something

written in Urdu, in red ink,back but unfortunately it is now lost. As

my father passed away in 1986, we also haven't tried to look for it,

as we assumed that it was no longer important. I do know that under

the horoscope that he made, Panditji's first line was " Abhi umar

bahut baki hai " . As my father lived on for a further 10 years, till

1986, it was indeed a long time for a man given only weeks and months

in 1976.

I will check out your reply to Mr.Critic regarding the fee.

Best Regards

Ashim

lalkitab , Rajinder Bhatia

<rajinderbhatia2002> wrote:

> Ashim, I am not at all surprised by the contents of your Email

regarding your family's visit to Pandit Roop Chand ji. In fact,

anything short of this would have disappointed me. I have similar

incidents to relate about Panditji. But I did not want to harp on

that subject constantly lest people should accuse me of being a " paid

agent " of the Joshi family. (I am so indebted to them that I do it

for free.) The originallalkitab site, when it writes about Panditji,

Pt Som Dutt ji or the Lal Kitab system, really does not exaggerate

its claims. Now you (all) understand why I have so much regard for

the Joshi family and the Lal Kitab system. Which other system in

astrology can match such wonderful feats? Diagnose the problem and

suggest remedial measure/s to fix the problem rather than making

useless predictions. Surely, Panditji did not have the time to

document all his knowledge in the books and unfortunately, unlike

Edgar Cayce (a Virginia resident, mentioned by Shri Rajinder Nath in

this forum yesterday) nobody documented his knowledge and as a

result, a vast chunk was lost. Pt Som Dutt ji is, similarly, quite

amazing but nobody can be in the same ball park as his father.

Please refer to an earlier Email that I had written in response to Mr

Critic. It addresses the issue of charges and improvements that need

to be made to the LalKitab site. Ashim, thanks again for sharing

your family's experiences with us and we all look forward to more.

Incidentally, did you save any papers that Panditji may have given

your parents? He used to return the horoscopes and his own hand-

written notes on them. I sent you an Email separately. Did you get

it? Best regards,Respectfully,Rajinder Bhatia

>

> The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

June 3, 2003

Rajesh,

I am going to do something which is quite risky - I haven't verified your horoscope. So all bets are off. However, on making an annual progressed chart (25th year running) I see a bunch of factors preventing your promotion this year (till next b'day)

Did this happen within about last 43 days from June 5, 2003?

The Varshphal gives us not one, but at least three hints against the promotion.

Can OTHER MEMBERS please come up with what these might be? Let us try making a varshphal and proceed. I'd like to walk through these woods with some others.

Thanks.

Respectfully,

Rajinder BhatiaRajesh <rajesh_sjce wrote:

Dear Bhatia ji, Can u please look into this and let me know what was the reason that I missed my promotion. Should I stay in the same company or shall I move to a different company. When can I be promoted as a Team Leader. I request your guidance and inputs, at this moment I feel confused coz the amount of knowledge for me in astrology is limited. RajeshSex :MaleDate of birth: 05/10/1978 (October 5, 1978)Time of birth: 03:37:00Place: Mysore Latitude: 12:18:N Longitude: 76:39:E Country: India Zone: 82:30:E

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June 3, 2003

Dear Rajender Bhatia ji:

I am new to the group and finding it very interesting

to learn Lal Kitab. Below are my birth details if you

could read about it and tell me about my business

problems. I am trying to get into a different line now

but rt now 'am interviewing for jobs. Some really

funny things have happened in April last week and May

last week regarding job interviews. I don't want to

reveal this rt now as I want to use this as a learning

experience for the members also. Can you please see

something positive comming in near future? Any

comments from the members are respectfully welcomed.

Thanks.

Name: Vikrant Singh

DOB: may 4th 1967

POB: Chandigarh, India

TOB: 04:28 a.m

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June 7, 2003

Bhatia ji... You got that right... !!!

and to add on I met with an accident and my aunt who was a pillion

rider suffered an head injury.

I am not bosting but I am pretty influential in the police department

in Mysore (my birth place) and was unable to catch the culprit

either... this year has put me in lot of troubles...

I dont know how you will react for this.. but now a days no matter

how much ever I try I dont get any intrest in GOD... he used to come

to my rescue and I considered to be his devotee but now a days I am

loosing faith in him..

Why is that I am turning out to be an athiest.. although I dont wish

to...?

lalkitab , Rajinder Bhatia

<rajinderbhatia2002> wrote:

> Rajesh,

> I am going to do something which is quite risky - I haven't

verified your horoscope. So all bets are off. However, on making an

annual progressed chart (25th year running) I see a bunch of factors

preventing your promotion this year (till next b'day)

>

> Did this happen within about last 43 days from June 5, 2003?

>

> The Varshphal gives us not one, but at least three hints against

the promotion.

> Can OTHER MEMBERS please come up with what these might be? Let us

try making a varshphal and proceed. I'd like to walk through these

woods with some others.

>

> Thanks.

>

> Respectfully,

> Rajinder Bhatia

>

> Rajesh <rajesh_sjce> wrote:

> Dear Bhatia ji,

>

> Can u please look into this and let me know what was the reason

that

> I missed my promotion.

>

> Should I stay in the same company or shall I move to a different

> company.

>

> When can I be promoted as a Team Leader.

>

> I request your guidance and inputs, at this moment I feel confused

> coz the amount of knowledge for me in astrology is limited.

>

> Rajesh

> Sex :Male

> Date of birth: 05/10/1978 (October 5, 1978)

> Time of birth: 03:37:00

> Place: Mysore Latitude: 12:18:N Longitude: 76:39:E

> Country: India Zone: 82:30:E

>

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June 26, 2003

hi ashim ji,

i am trying to says few things

are you the eldest in family of four.

is relation with sibling tense

wife if married is scholar drk skin in times will

be mean to you and family

are you extremely religious or find solace in rituals

job in communication tele net or information

do you use high power glasses and week eyesight

last but imp how you deal if known surrounding some

one mysteriously dies it will consume you

to find and solve the mystery

did it already happen or you wonder about death itself

hope i read as for i stdy differnt astro way

rajinder

--- ashim kumar <ashimkumar2003 wrote:

>

> Greetings to all members !

>

> Sorry to have been not posting for so long. But then

> I really don't have all that much to contribute as I

> just do not manage the time to study the Lal Kitab,

> much as I try. Also, after a point, it just stops

> making sense !!! I would like Bhatiaji and Pandeyji

> to please look into my horoscope, as and when they

> are able. Not that I am limiting it just to these 2

> in the forum, but since they are perhaps the most

> active. Bhatiaji, perhaps you will find the time for

> me now ??

>

> Date of birth : 11 October 1971

>

> Time : 10:13 am

>

> Place : New Delhi

>

> Planets are as follows :

>

> 1st House : Jupiter

>

> 2nd : empty

>

> 3rd : Mars & Rahu

>

> 4th, 5th, 6th : empty

>

> 7th : Saturn

>

> 8th : Moon

>

> 9th : Ketu

>

> 10th : empty

>

> 11th : Sun & Mercury

>

> 12th : Venus

>

> Thanks a lot.

>

> Ashim

>

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Dear Rajinder ji

Thanks for your reply. I reply pointwise as follows :

1. I am not the oldest of 4, I am the younger of 2 siblings. I have an older sister.

2. I am married, my wife is not a scholar or connected with anything to do with that field. She is fair. I myself am extremely dark.

3. I have absolutely no time for religious rituals etc. I havent even been near a temple/religious place for years now.

4. My work is concerned with engineering.

5. I do have weak eyes and have been wearing glasses since I was 10.

6. I wonder about death a lot. The whys and the wherefors....it is almost a paranoia.

I hope this is useful to you.

Regards

AshimRajinder Nath <jinderman wrote:

hi ashim ji,i am trying to says few thingsare you the eldest in family of four.is relation with sibling tensewife if married is scholar drk skin in times willbe mean to you and familyare you extremely religious or find solace in ritualsjob in communication tele net or information do you use high power glasses and week eyesightlast but imp how you deal if known surrounding someone mysteriously dies it will consume youto find and solve the mysterydid it already happen or you wonder about death itselfhope i read as for i stdy differnt astro wayrajinder--- ashim kumar <ashimkumar2003 wrote:> > Greetings to all members !> > Sorry to have been not posting for so long. But then> I really don't have all that much to contribute as I> just do not manage the time to study the Lal

Kitab,> much as I try. Also, after a point, it just stops> making sense !!! I would like Bhatiaji and Pandeyji> to please look into my horoscope, as and when they> are able. Not that I am limiting it just to these 2> in the forum, but since they are perhaps the most> active. Bhatiaji, perhaps you will find the time for> me now ??> > Date of birth : 11 October 1971> > Time : 10:13 am> > Place : New Delhi> > > > Planets are as follows :> > 1st House : Jupiter> > 2nd : empty> > 3rd : Mars & Rahu> > 4th, 5th, 6th : empty> > 7th : Saturn> > 8th : Moon> > 9th : Ketu> > 10th : empty> > 11th : Sun & Mercury> > 12th : Venus> > Thanks a lot.> > Ashim> > > > SMS

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ashim ji ,

i once awhile get feel to write but 5th and sixth

point you say is ok most of time moon in eigth

will make a person inclined to find secret of death

like nikit in upanisada .

venus in second effect eyes

if jupitor is in first house person has to be

eldest of brother and should be techer brother to

three younger in your case may be cousins.

did you have close ties to sister or not

watch your weight after 38

i will say temple will become imp part of your life

some day

regards

rajinder

--- ashim kumar <ashimkumar2003 wrote:

> Dear Rajinder ji

>

> Thanks for your reply. I reply pointwise as follows

> :

>

> 1. I am not the oldest of 4, I am the younger of 2

> siblings. I have an older sister.

> 2. I am married, my wife is not a scholar or

> connected with anything to do with that field. She

> is fair. I myself am extremely dark.

> 3. I have absolutely no time for religious rituals

> etc. I havent even been near a temple/religious

> place for years now.

> 4. My work is concerned with engineering.

> 5. I do have weak eyes and have been wearing glasses

> since I was 10.

> 6. I wonder about death a lot. The whys and the

> wherefors....it is almost a paranoia.

>

> I hope this is useful to you.

>

> Regards

> Ashim

>

> Rajinder Nath <jinderman wrote:

> hi ashim ji,

> i am trying to says few things

> are you the eldest in family of four.

> is relation with sibling tense

> wife if married is scholar drk skin in times will

> be mean to you and family

> are you extremely religious or find solace in

> rituals

> job in communication tele net or information

> do you use high power glasses and week eyesight

> last but imp how you deal if known surrounding some

> one mysteriously dies it will consume you

> to find and solve the mystery

> did it already happen or you wonder about death

> itself

> hope i read as for i stdy differnt astro way

> rajinder

> --- ashim kumar <ashimkumar2003 wrote:

> >

> > Greetings to all members !

> >

> > Sorry to have been not posting for so long. But

> then

> > I really don't have all that much to contribute as

> I

> > just do not manage the time to study the Lal

> Kitab,

> > much as I try. Also, after a point, it just stops

> > making sense !!! I would like Bhatiaji and

> Pandeyji

> > to please look into my horoscope, as and when they

> > are able. Not that I am limiting it just to these

> 2

> > in the forum, but since they are perhaps the most

> > active. Bhatiaji, perhaps you will find the time

> for

> > me now ??

> >

> > Date of birth : 11 October 1971

> >

> > Time : 10:13 am

> >

> > Place : New Delhi

> >

> > Planets are as follows :

> >

> > 1st House : Jupiter

> >

> > 2nd : empty

> >

> > 3rd : Mars & Rahu

> >

> > 4th, 5th, 6th : empty

> >

> > 7th : Saturn

> >

> > 8th : Moon

> >

> > 9th : Ketu

> >

> > 10th : empty

> >

> > 11th : Sun & Mercury

> >

> > 12th : Venus

> >

> > Thanks a lot.

> >

> > Ashim

> >

> > SMS using the Messenger;Download latest

> version.

>

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I am currently in New York for a customer meeting and as you perhaps know, we had a major power failure here. I have to get the work done therefore, upon my return, I will defintely get back to you.

Good luck.

Rajinder Bhatiasrinivas murthy <hvsrinivas71 wrote:

Respected Sri. UpadyayjiThank you very much for the reply which has been givento my sisters subject #578 we will follow with utmostcare my sister also felt very very happy and kindlyaccept pranamas from her also.Sir, is it OK if I accompany her in doing all theseupayas for sake of guidance or should I not.if it has to done very confidentially I will not seeking your suggestion.Sincerely yours/SrinivasNOTE: I have already replied already for Sri Batiaji'smail # 584 and My reply # 587 I am very much happy forthe analysis is very perfect expecting a reply fromhis end. I am very very grateful to him______________________ India Promos: Win TVs, Bikes, DVD players & more!Go to http://in.promos.

February 19, 2004

lalkitab , Punit Pandey <pandeypunit>

wrote:

> Anu ji,

>

> Is time AM or PM?

>

> Regards,

>

> Punit Pandey

>

> an_jag2000 <an_jag2000> wrote:

> Respected Punitji,

> Thank you very much for the prompt reply & remedies.I hope &

> will be very happy if my brother's horoscope is analysed by You.He

is

> single & also is facing depression problem.kindly advice on

marriage

> prospects & his health.another aspect is inability to save money &

> debt of family inspite of lot of hardwork & no huge

expenditure.for

> this is it necessary to provide details of other family members.my

> brother's birth details are:

> Date of Birth: 10-07-1969

> Time of Birth: 02 : 17

> Place of Birth: Poona

> Country: India

> Latitude: 18Â° 34' N

> Longitude: 73Â° 58' E

>

> Thank you

> Regards

>

Country: India

> Latitude: 18Â° 34' N

> Longitude: 73Â° 58' E

>

Respected Sir,

As suggested by you, the wooden clutter on my terrace is

cleared.Do I also need to clear the clutter(utensils,bags etc) on the

loft in my house.Another thought that troubles me is since my

maternal aunts(maasis ) & 3to 4 female cousins of my mother are also

single, & those who are married have misearable life.does it indicate

any problem as per astrology that runs into generations.If yes please

suggest remedies. Please advice.

I am disturbed by negative thoughts(birth date 2nd nov

1971,8.30pm,poona).I am presently wearing moti in little finger of

right hand & gold ring in little finger of left hand.Is it correct

for me ,if not what gemstone should be worn by me.Can remedies for

other family members be done by the respective family members

simultaneously.

My brother's birth time is 2.17 am

(after midnight),poona.other than lalkitab remedies can you please

suggest any gemstone for him

Please bear with a long mail like this.

Thank you very much

regards

>

April 16, 2004

I read your message requesting God's forgiveness and it touched my heart. Although I do not know remedies for this - or if there are any remedies, I am sure learned friends will guide you with this. But what I do know is God is very Kind and if from heart you start to worship Lord Shiva Ji again then nothing would be lost.

I understand Guilt and Shame are very powerful feelings and they keep us seperate from God. All of us make mistakes in our lives and we have to pick ourselves up and start again. I am western woman who joined this group to learn and eventually ask this group for remedies. I am running Shani Shani period right now - sometimes I am my own worst judge. And sometimes I feel the God laughing at my judgements of myself because I feel strongly God sees the heart and the good in me, it is me that sees and feels bad.

I pray you gain the peace that you request.

with kind regards

Susan priya200420042000 <priya200420042000 wrote:

upadhaya gi, when i was in eight i used to pray shiv parvati murti as i was little innocent i built a shivling of plaster paris and i started praying but because of watering shivling becomes crack and fungus appear on it i throw it in the dig ground in our house . i used to pray a god but when i came to know that the god is not listening i burned the books i gone like mad from past three years i came in normal thinking and from that day i realised that i have lot in interset in god i can never perform pooja with better respect due to this i gone mad i burnt a shatra books which have strong results and from that day i became mad i want to apolozie to god what i should do there is any remeides to apolozie to god for past karma one is pitri rin in which i can

collect the rupees from my mother and father and without telling them reasons i can donate in temple can this help me .

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