Guest guest Report post Posted April 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > geo > Nisargadatta > Saturday, April 03, 2010 6:53 PM > Re: Re: today's Nisargadatta > > > > > - > Hur Guler > Nisargadatta > Saturday, April 03, 2010 4:56 PM > Re: today's Nisargadatta > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > " I simply followed (my teacher's) instruction, which was to focus the > > mind on pure being, 'I am', and stay in it. I used to sit for hours > > together, with nothing but the 'I am' in my mind, and soon peace and > > joy and a deep all-embracing love became my normal state. In it all > > disappeared -- myself, my Guru, the life I lived, the world around > > me. Only peace remained, and unfathomable silence. " > > > > there's often a debate in neo-advaita circles whether there's meditation or > not but this seems to be as close to a medidation practice as possible. > -hur- > > Yes. Exactly. > The honest and persistent inquiry into the nature of the " I am " brings about > the silence, the emptiness, of the true essential nature of existence. > -geo- > you're now nondualling with the best of them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > And of course, at the same time, just words -- nothing real ever being touched at all. > > > > > > > but of course...except maybe a few bruised egos. > > > > > > > Perhaps so. > > > > And perhaps egos unconsciously like to get bruised -- it makes them " feel real " , eh? ;-). > > > > it feels real to me though. the funny thing is when the me says there's no me it never works well as a legal defence. > " no officer i was not speeding, consciousness was. " That reminds of a humorous article I read awhile back -- some fellow got caught for speeding (or something like that), and his defense was that state laws didn't apply, because " I live inside myself, not in the state of Iowa " . Seriously, that was on news -- wish I had saved it ;-). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And of course, at the same time, just words -- nothing real ever being touched at all. > > > > > > > > > but of course...except maybe a few bruised egos. > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps so. > > > > > > And perhaps egos unconsciously like to get bruised -- it makes them " feel real " , eh? ;-). > > > > > > > it feels real to me though. the funny thing is when the me says there's no me it never works well as a legal defence. > > " no officer i was not speeding, consciousness was. " > > That reminds of a humorous article I read awhile back -- some fellow got caught for speeding (or something like that), and his defense was that state laws didn't apply, because " I live inside myself, not in the state of Iowa " . > > Seriously, that was on news -- wish I had saved it ;-). > yeah it hurts when the imaginary state lines of iowa can penalize in the name of some make belief rules that a bunch of old men made up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg wrote: > > > > > yeah it hurts when the imaginary state lines of iowa can penalize in the name of some make belief rules that a bunch of old men made up. > Almost anything perceived 'external' can hurt like that, and honestly I think 'ego' searches for such things. It can be anything, a million things, a billion things, a trillion. Or, it can all be dropped... it's just happening in the mind, and isn't really external. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 4, 2010 - Hur Guler Nisargadatta Saturday, April 03, 2010 7:19 PM Re: today's Nisargadatta Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > geo > Nisargadatta > Saturday, April 03, 2010 6:53 PM > Re: Re: today's Nisargadatta > > > > > - > Hur Guler > Nisargadatta > Saturday, April 03, 2010 4:56 PM > Re: today's Nisargadatta > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > " I simply followed (my teacher's) instruction, which was to focus the > > mind on pure being, 'I am', and stay in it. I used to sit for hours > > together, with nothing but the 'I am' in my mind, and soon peace and > > joy and a deep all-embracing love became my normal state. In it all > > disappeared -- myself, my Guru, the life I lived, the world around > > me. Only peace remained, and unfathomable silence. " > > > > there's often a debate in neo-advaita circles whether there's meditation > or > not but this seems to be as close to a medidation practice as possible. > -hur- > > Yes. Exactly. > The honest and persistent inquiry into the nature of the " I am " brings > about > the silence, the emptiness, of the true essential nature of existence. > -geo- > you're now nondualling with the best of them. -hur- Whatever that may mean its OK by me... LOL -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > yeah it hurts when the imaginary state lines of iowa can penalize in the name of some make belief rules that a bunch of old men made up. > > > > Almost anything perceived 'external' can hurt like that, and honestly I think 'ego' searches for such things. > > It can be anything, a million things, a billion things, a trillion. > > Or, it can all be dropped... it's just happening in the mind, and isn't really external. > as ramana said if a thief is beating you with a stick you can't say there's no pain. along the similar lines you can't say it's just happening in the mind and there's no corresponding external reality. it's the mind's job to reconstruct the external reality so we can interpret it and save our butts. if bob is just happening in the mind and isn't really external, why even complain about him and wish him to remove from the list? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > Hur Guler > Nisargadatta > Saturday, April 03, 2010 7:19 PM > Re: today's Nisargadatta > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > geo > > Nisargadatta > > Saturday, April 03, 2010 6:53 PM > > Re: Re: today's Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > - > > Hur Guler > > Nisargadatta > > Saturday, April 03, 2010 4:56 PM > > Re: today's Nisargadatta > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > " I simply followed (my teacher's) instruction, which was to focus the > > > mind on pure being, 'I am', and stay in it. I used to sit for hours > > > together, with nothing but the 'I am' in my mind, and soon peace and > > > joy and a deep all-embracing love became my normal state. In it all > > > disappeared -- myself, my Guru, the life I lived, the world around > > > me. Only peace remained, and unfathomable silence. " > > > > > > > there's often a debate in neo-advaita circles whether there's meditation > > or > > not but this seems to be as close to a medidation practice as possible. > > -hur- > > > > Yes. Exactly. > > The honest and persistent inquiry into the nature of the " I am " brings > > about > > the silence, the emptiness, of the true essential nature of existence. > > -geo- > > > you're now nondualling with the best of them. > -hur- > > Whatever that may mean its OK by me... > LOL > -geo- > it means you're getting the hang of it. sooner or later the advaitin borg will assimilate. resistance is futile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > geo > > > Nisargadatta > > > Saturday, April 03, 2010 4:00 PM > > > Re: Re: today's Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > BobN > > > Nisargadatta > > > Saturday, April 03, 2010 3:49 PM > > > Re: today's Nisargadatta > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > BobN > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Saturday, April 03, 2010 2:50 PM > > > > Re: today's Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > geo > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Saturday, April 03, 2010 11:32 AM > > > > > Re: Re: today's Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > BobN > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Saturday, April 03, 2010 11:22 AM > > > > > Re: today's Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > " I simply followed (my teacher's) instruction, which was to focus the > > > > > > mind on pure being, 'I am', and stay in it. I used to sit for hours > > > > > > together, with nothing but the 'I am' in my mind, and soon peace and > > > > > > joy and a deep all-embracing love became my normal state. In it all > > > > > > disappeared -- myself, my Guru, the life I lived, the world around > > > > > > me. Only peace remained, and unfathomable silence. " > > > > > > > > > > you believe the damndest things timmy. > > > > > > > > > > hahahahahaha! > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > " I am " is the door. > > > > > Either one is looking at and eventually understanding the " I " that is > > > > > just > > > > > a > > > > > story, the false, or else, > > > > > one is knocking at the " I " that is a pointer to the " being " that is ones > > > > > real nature. > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > if there is a one looking.. > > > > > > > > one will find absolutely nothing more than one's fantasies. > > > > -bbb- > > > > Depends on what " one " you are reffering to. There is a one that is alone. > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > no self has a real nature. > > > > > > > > lose that sick sucker. > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > I have not mentioned any self > > > > -geo- > > > > > > oh cut the crap! > > > > > > you sure as hell did and do right now. > > > > > > don't try to pull that spacey shit.. > > > > > > about you being Awareness and Free and Enlightened. > > > > > > are you trying out for a dabbo and tim impersonation? > > > > > > come down from your stupid tower of delusion kiddo. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > No. I died in 14 of march of 1973 at 14:13 But I dont claim to be > > > enlightened. > > > LOL! > > > I want all of you to know that I am not enlightened... just dead!! > > > That is waaaaay much more elegant! > > > LOL! > > > .ge.o. > > > > > > no it's just more and stinkier bullshit. > > > > to talk like that is not elegant at all. > > > > it's as inelegant and unrefined as it gets. > > > > actually to talk like that is just plain stupid. > > > > there is no surprise that you don't understand that either. > > > > you obviously don't understand much at all. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Hi, Bob -- > > Have you ever felt a sense of peace, and an easing of all the negativity? > > Just wondering... hey timmy... do you think there is a difference between peace and unrest..REALLY? do you think there really are positive and negative " poles " .. outside of a deluded and relative distinction? do you feel abused? do you think maybe you put too much stock in your " self " .. and all it's woes and tribulations.. joys and laughter(s)? do you think anyone REALLY cares? what good does it do even if they do? does that make you feel good..about yourself? do you think that that is a " good thing " ? maybe if the self WHICH FEELS SO DISTRAUGHT.. were just to " go through " it's supposed sense of hurt.. ....and dissolve.. just maybe all that would be left is laughter. when it just doesn't matter anymore.. when there is no one for it to matter about for.. well timmy.. you just wouldn't..and could not possibly..believe it. because as long as that sufferin' succotash self is around.. it lives in it's self created world of self-importance and suffering. and it's a phony that cannot and will not last. get over it..get over yourself. the only problem is.. you really CAN'T. but IT WILL HAPPEN. sooner or later and indeed IT actually IS THE CASE. you can't help yourself.. i can't help your self.. dabbo can't help you here.. Niz can't help you.. Jesus nor Buddha nor Mohamed nor any guru nor poet nor mysic.. no zen no Lao Tzu no Nothing.. not heaven nor hell nor your Aunt Jemima can help you. there is no you to help. and after as before.. as above and below.. everything and every All and every Nothing at All.. is exactly the same. and that's funny as all get out. even though there's nothing to get out of... no words can help you either. so baba's sure this hasn't helped you. and THAT.. makes this boy laugh. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg wrote: > > > > Whatever that may mean its OK by me... > > LOL > > -geo- > > > it means you're getting the hang of it. sooner or later the advaitin borg will assimilate. resistance is futile. > The actuality of 'the nondual' is not the words (re)presented as pointers. The pointing finger is not what is being pointed to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > yeah it hurts when the imaginary state lines of iowa can penalize in the name of some make belief rules that a bunch of old men made up. > > > > > > > Almost anything perceived 'external' can hurt like that, and honestly I think 'ego' searches for such things. > > > > It can be anything, a million things, a billion things, a trillion. > > > > Or, it can all be dropped... it's just happening in the mind, and isn't really external. > > > > as ramana said if a thief is beating you with a stick you can't say > there's no pain. Yes -- but a thief isn't beating either of us with a stick. > along the similar lines you can't say it's just happening in the > mind and there's no corresponding external reality. If the external reality is actually happening, it's actually happening -- I agree. But probably 99.9% of what troubles us, isn't happening now. And that's the point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > " I simply followed (my teacher's) instruction, which was to focus the > > > mind on pure being, 'I am', and stay in it. I used to sit for hours > > > together, with nothing but the 'I am' in my mind, and soon peace and > > > joy and a deep all-embracing love became my normal state. In it all > > > disappeared -- myself, my Guru, the life I lived, the world around > > > me. Only peace remained, and unfathomable silence. " > > > > > > > there's often a debate in neo-advaita circles whether there's meditation or not but this seems to be as close to a medidation practice as possible. > > > > From here, there's certainly nothing wrong with meditation. > > Particularly if it isn't practiced with a goal in mind, but because one has learned to appreciate peace and silence. but if the " you " is enjoying the " peace and silence " .. it's a stillborn event. it's an ultimate and immediate failure. it actually props up and perpetuates the ONE and ONLY problem. what this " you " experiences is not peace..nor silence. it's what it imagines those to be. it experiences the same " thing " that it itself is.. a simulacrum of X. and that is it's goal. it keeps it alive and proud and buried in the morass of it's pride. it's bullshit. and you won't believe this. you can't. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Have you ever felt a sense of peace, and an easing of all the negativity? > > > > > > Just wondering... > > > > > > > i think bob is like the incarnation of kali. with the sword in his hand he is always swinging to chop some heads off. > > > > The others he's swinging at, he doesn't even know. he doesn't know himself. neither do you. your head just fell off. but you can't see it because your eyes went with it. you think it's important. it can't be explained to you actually. you don't have the ears to hear. they're with that fallen head. so " you " will keep pretending.. and feeling hurt and abused.. or proud in your " seeking without a goal " .. you know.. all that phony shit that makes you think you know something.. that stuff you go on about in order to impress others and your " self " . life's a bitch and then you die..and you die and you die. at last....there is nothing to die. because there is nothing that was ever born. night night timmy. :-) ..b b.b. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yeah it hurts when the imaginary state lines of iowa can penalize in the name of some make belief rules that a bunch of old men made up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Almost anything perceived 'external' can hurt like that, and honestly I think 'ego' searches for such things. > > > > > > > > It can be anything, a million things, a billion things, a trillion. > > > > > > > > Or, it can all be dropped... it's just happening in the mind, and isn't really external. > > > > > > > > > > as ramana said if a thief is beating you with a stick you can't say > there's no pain. > > > > Yes -- but a thief isn't beating either of us with a stick. > > > > > > > along the similar lines you can't say it's just happening in the > > > mind and there's no corresponding external reality. > > > > If the external reality is actually happening, it's actually happening -- I agree. > > > > But probably 99.9% of what troubles us, isn't happening now. > > > > And that's the point. > > > > i think i understand what you mean. now only if bob would give you a break. > Bob can say what he likes -- I don't mind. Flaming seems to satisfy some need for him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you ever felt a sense of peace, and an easing of all the negativity? > > > > > > > > Just wondering... > > > > > > > > > > i think bob is like the incarnation of kali. with the sword in his hand he is always swinging to chop some heads off. > > > > > > > The others he's swinging at, he doesn't even know. > > > > P.S. it seems something like one walking into a glass/china shop with their arms swinging everywhere, pinwheeling around blindly, knocking dishes and glasses off shelves, etc. > > All the china and glass being one's own, unknowingly. > > It's self-destructive behaviour, if one realizes that both self and other arise from the same Source. > > And of course, at the same time, just words -- nothing real ever being touched at all. you see timmy.. if that was real to you.. you'd cut the whining and crying. only eternal laughter would..would... well actually it wouldn't do anything. and that's something that you just can't fathom. and that's just not going to do it for you. wonder why? of course you do. and that's the very nub of the rub. this is a gas! LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > BobN > Nisargadatta > Saturday, April 03, 2010 4:34 PM > Re: today's Nisargadatta > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > BobN > > Nisargadatta > > Saturday, April 03, 2010 3:49 PM > > Re: today's Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > BobN > > > Nisargadatta > > > Saturday, April 03, 2010 2:50 PM > > > Re: today's Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > geo > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Saturday, April 03, 2010 11:32 AM > > > > Re: Re: today's Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > BobN > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Saturday, April 03, 2010 11:22 AM > > > > Re: today's Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > " I simply followed (my teacher's) instruction, which was to focus > > > > > the > > > > > mind on pure being, 'I am', and stay in it. I used to sit for hours > > > > > together, with nothing but the 'I am' in my mind, and soon peace and > > > > > joy and a deep all-embracing love became my normal state. In it all > > > > > disappeared -- myself, my Guru, the life I lived, the world around > > > > > me. Only peace remained, and unfathomable silence. " > > > > > > > > you believe the damndest things timmy. > > > > > > > > hahahahahaha! > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > " I am " is the door. > > > > Either one is looking at and eventually understanding the " I " that is > > > > just > > > > a > > > > story, the false, or else, > > > > one is knocking at the " I " that is a pointer to the " being " that is > > > > ones > > > > real nature. > > > > -geo- > > > > > > if there is a one looking.. > > > > > > one will find absolutely nothing more than one's fantasies. > > > -bbb- > > > Depends on what " one " you are reffering to. There is a one that is > > > alone. > > > -geo- > > > > > > no self has a real nature. > > > > > > lose that sick sucker. > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > I have not mentioned any self > > > -geo- > > > > oh cut the crap! > > > > you sure as hell did and do right now. > > > > don't try to pull that spacey shit.. > > > > about you being Awareness and Free and Enlightened. > > > > are you trying out for a dabbo and tim impersonation? > > > > come down from your stupid tower of delusion kiddo. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > No. I died in 14 of march of 1973 at 14:13 But I dont claim to be > > enlightened. > > LOL! > > .ge.o. > > good thing because: > > a). you didn't die. > > b). you most certainly aren't enlightened. > > c). you are speaking from and as self. > > and further proof that you are deluded.. > > as if anymore was needed.. > > is in your use of time markers like month and clock time. > > you aren't even close to getting what IT IS. > > too bad. > > LOL! > > .b b.b. > > Good try!! Very good but not effective. You are the only one here (besides > lene, but that is something else) who > claim to have died in 1973. None else. > LOL! > -geo- you think baba is trying to be " effective " ? hahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa! OMG! you're a lost little lamb. baa baa black sheep. ROFLMAO! geo you are more obtuse than i thought. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > BobN > Nisargadatta > Saturday, April 03, 2010 4:38 PM > Re: today's Nisargadatta > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > geo > > Nisargadatta > > Saturday, April 03, 2010 4:00 PM > > Re: Re: today's Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > - > > BobN > > Nisargadatta > > Saturday, April 03, 2010 3:49 PM > > Re: today's Nisargadatta > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > BobN > > > Nisargadatta > > > Saturday, April 03, 2010 2:50 PM > > > Re: today's Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > geo > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Saturday, April 03, 2010 11:32 AM > > > > Re: Re: today's Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > BobN > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Saturday, April 03, 2010 11:22 AM > > > > Re: today's Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > " I simply followed (my teacher's) instruction, which was to focus > > > > > the > > > > > mind on pure being, 'I am', and stay in it. I used to sit for hours > > > > > together, with nothing but the 'I am' in my mind, and soon peace and > > > > > joy and a deep all-embracing love became my normal state. In it all > > > > > disappeared -- myself, my Guru, the life I lived, the world around > > > > > me. Only peace remained, and unfathomable silence. " > > > > > > > > you believe the damndest things timmy. > > > > > > > > hahahahahaha! > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > " I am " is the door. > > > > Either one is looking at and eventually understanding the " I " that is > > > > just > > > > a > > > > story, the false, or else, > > > > one is knocking at the " I " that is a pointer to the " being " that is > > > > ones > > > > real nature. > > > > -geo- > > > > > > if there is a one looking.. > > > > > > one will find absolutely nothing more than one's fantasies. > > > -bbb- > > > Depends on what " one " you are reffering to. There is a one that is > > > alone. > > > -geo- > > > > > > no self has a real nature. > > > > > > lose that sick sucker. > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > I have not mentioned any self > > > -geo- > > > > oh cut the crap! > > > > you sure as hell did and do right now. > > > > don't try to pull that spacey shit.. > > > > about you being Awareness and Free and Enlightened. > > > > are you trying out for a dabbo and tim impersonation? > > > > come down from your stupid tower of delusion kiddo. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > No. I died in 14 of march of 1973 at 14:13 But I dont claim to be > > enlightened. > > LOL! > > I want all of you to know that I am not enlightened... just dead!! > > That is waaaaay much more elegant! > > LOL! > > .ge.o. > > no it's just more and stinkier bullshit. > > to talk like that is not elegant at all. > > it's as inelegant and unrefined as it gets. > > actually to talk like that is just plain stupid. > > there is no surprise that you don't understand that either. > > you obviously don't understand much at all. > > .b b.b. > > Bad acting again!! > You are the only one here who ever said was dead since 1975. > LOL! > .ge.o. and you obviously took it seriously. you're a jerk. you seem obsessed with what was said or done long ago. no wonder you have a hard time getting over your trite opinions. you relish holding onto your recapitulations and personal history. that's really a joke. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you ever felt a sense of peace, and an easing of all the negativity? > > > > > > > > > > Just wondering... > > > > > > > > > > > > > i think bob is like the incarnation of kali. with the sword in his hand he is always swinging to chop some heads off. > > > > > > > > > > The others he's swinging at, he doesn't even know. > > > > > > > P.S. it seems something like one walking into a glass/china shop with their arms swinging everywhere, pinwheeling around blindly, knocking dishes and glasses off shelves, etc. > > > > All the china and glass being one's own, unknowingly. > > > > It's self-destructive behaviour, if one realizes that both self and other arise from the same Source. > > > > And of course, at the same time, just words -- nothing real ever being touched at all. > > > you see timmy.. > > if that was real to you.. > > you'd cut the whining and crying. Funny -- it seems here I've been speaking quite sanely/rationally, and haven't complained about a thing. I guess it depends what " I " is *really* involved, eh? ;-). Go ahead and whine/cry about whining/crying that isn't even happening with the other. It's interesting to watch the projector throw pictures onto a screen, while the screen is taken as reality instead of the projector. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > geo > Nisargadatta > Saturday, April 03, 2010 6:53 PM > Re: Re: today's Nisargadatta > > > > > - > Hur Guler > Nisargadatta > Saturday, April 03, 2010 4:56 PM > Re: today's Nisargadatta > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > " I simply followed (my teacher's) instruction, which was to focus the > > mind on pure being, 'I am', and stay in it. I used to sit for hours > > together, with nothing but the 'I am' in my mind, and soon peace and > > joy and a deep all-embracing love became my normal state. In it all > > disappeared -- myself, my Guru, the life I lived, the world around > > me. Only peace remained, and unfathomable silence. " > > > > there's often a debate in neo-advaita circles whether there's meditation or > not but this seems to be as close to a medidation practice as possible. > -hur- > > Yes. Exactly. > The honest and persistent inquiry into the nature of the " I am " brings about > the silence, the emptiness, of the true essential nature of existence. > -geo- bullshit. it maintains and perpetuates the self. it runs from TRUE NAURE with ever increasing speed. and makes that phony " you " say things like you did above. and that makes you feel Proud and Enlightened. and that is folly of the First Order. it is the foundation of your arising into and as this world. now defend that self with all your might! tell me how RIGHT you are. tell me all about your Wisdom..and Search..and what you " Found " . it's midnight in the Garden of Allah. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > yeah it hurts when the imaginary state lines of iowa can penalize in the name of some make belief rules that a bunch of old men made up. > > > > Almost anything perceived 'external' can hurt like that, and honestly I think 'ego' searches for such things. > > It can be anything, a million things, a billion things, a trillion. > > Or, it can all be dropped... it's just happening in the mind, and isn't really external. the mind is external. it's not eternal. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > yeah it hurts when the imaginary state lines of iowa can penalize in the name of some make belief rules that a bunch of old men made up. > > > > > > > Almost anything perceived 'external' can hurt like that, and honestly I think 'ego' searches for such things. > > > > It can be anything, a million things, a billion things, a trillion. > > > > Or, it can all be dropped... it's just happening in the mind, and isn't really external. > > > > as ramana said if a thief is beating you with a stick you can't say there's no pain. along the similar lines you can't say it's just happening in the mind and there's no corresponding external reality. > it's the mind's job to reconstruct the external reality so we can interpret it and save our butts. > > if bob is just happening in the mind and isn't really external, why even complain about him and wish him to remove from the list? that's what i can't understand. i don't know the man. why would anyone want him taken to the road to Golgotha? anyway.. i hear the lashes and abusive words about his abusive words. i don't know him. i've never been with the guy. (and that was some nasty stuff up on the hill there i hear) some say they'll try to find him this Sunday. Good Luck! LOL! ..b b.b. p,s, remember friends.. i don't know the guy. OK that's three times. i hear the cock crowing. now i got to get back to business. i'm planning on starting up a Firm. we'll publish some books on that bastard. and the Company will grow and grow. and someday a CEO who stands in my place at that future time. will say he doesn't know.. about some nasty things going on with the crew running the franchises. funny how things never change.. throughout the many changes throughout the ages. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yeah it hurts when the imaginary state lines of iowa can penalize in the name of some make belief rules that a bunch of old men made up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Almost anything perceived 'external' can hurt like that, and honestly I think 'ego' searches for such things. > > > > > > > > > > It can be anything, a million things, a billion things, a trillion. > > > > > > > > > > Or, it can all be dropped... it's just happening in the mind, and isn't really external. > > > > > > > > > > > > > as ramana said if a thief is beating you with a stick you can't say > there's no pain. > > > > > > Yes -- but a thief isn't beating either of us with a stick. > > > > > > > > > > along the similar lines you can't say it's just happening in the > > > > mind and there's no corresponding external reality. > > > > > > If the external reality is actually happening, it's actually happening -- I agree. > > > > > > But probably 99.9% of what troubles us, isn't happening now. > > > > > > And that's the point. > > > > > > > i think i understand what you mean. now only if bob would give you a break. > > > > Bob can say what he likes -- I don't mind. > > Flaming seems to satisfy some need for him. probably it satisfies the same need that whining does for you. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you ever felt a sense of peace, and an easing of all the negativity? > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wondering... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i think bob is like the incarnation of kali. with the sword in his hand he is always swinging to chop some heads off. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The others he's swinging at, he doesn't even know. > > > > > > > > > > P.S. it seems something like one walking into a glass/china shop with their arms swinging everywhere, pinwheeling around blindly, knocking dishes and glasses off shelves, etc. > > > > > > All the china and glass being one's own, unknowingly. > > > > > > It's self-destructive behaviour, if one realizes that both self and other arise from the same Source. > > > > > > And of course, at the same time, just words -- nothing real ever being touched at all. > > > > > > you see timmy.. > > > > if that was real to you.. > > > > you'd cut the whining and crying. > > Funny -- it seems here I've been speaking quite sanely/rationally, and haven't complained about a thing. > > I guess it depends what " I " is *really* involved, eh? ;-). > > Go ahead and whine/cry about whining/crying that isn't even happening with the other. > > It's interesting to watch the projector throw pictures onto a screen, while the screen is taken as reality instead of the projector. what projector? you do so love your fantasies. enjoy your Mickey Mouse Movie timmy. i love kids like you. you're so cute. and you believe and say the darndest things. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you ever felt a sense of peace, and an easing of all the negativity? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wondering... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i think bob is like the incarnation of kali. with the sword in his hand he is always swinging to chop some heads off. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The others he's swinging at, he doesn't even know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S. it seems something like one walking into a glass/china shop with their arms swinging everywhere, pinwheeling around blindly, knocking dishes and glasses off shelves, etc. > > > > > > > > All the china and glass being one's own, unknowingly. > > > > > > > > It's self-destructive behaviour, if one realizes that both self and other arise from the same Source. > > > > > > > > And of course, at the same time, just words -- nothing real ever being touched at all. > > > > > > > > > you see timmy.. > > > > > > if that was real to you.. > > > > > > you'd cut the whining and crying. > > > > Funny -- it seems here I've been speaking quite sanely/rationally, and haven't complained about a thing. > > > > I guess it depends what " I " is *really* involved, eh? ;-). > > > > Go ahead and whine/cry about whining/crying that isn't even happening with the other. > > > > It's interesting to watch the projector throw pictures onto a screen, while the screen is taken as reality instead of the projector. > > > what projector? The one making Bob see things that aren't there, and miss things that are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you ever felt a sense of peace, and an easing of all the negativity? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wondering... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i think bob is like the incarnation of kali. with the sword in his hand he is always swinging to chop some heads off. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The others he's swinging at, he doesn't even know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S. it seems something like one walking into a glass/china shop with their arms swinging everywhere, pinwheeling around blindly, knocking dishes and glasses off shelves, etc. > > > > > > > > > > All the china and glass being one's own, unknowingly. > > > > > > > > > > It's self-destructive behaviour, if one realizes that both self and other arise from the same Source. > > > > > > > > > > And of course, at the same time, just words -- nothing real ever being touched at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > you see timmy.. > > > > > > > > if that was real to you.. > > > > > > > > you'd cut the whining and crying. > > > > > > Funny -- it seems here I've been speaking quite sanely/rationally, and haven't complained about a thing. > > > > > > I guess it depends what " I " is *really* involved, eh? ;-). > > > > > > Go ahead and whine/cry about whining/crying that isn't even happening with the other. > > > > > > It's interesting to watch the projector throw pictures onto a screen, while the screen is taken as reality instead of the projector. > > > > > > what projector? > > The one making Bob see things that aren't there, and miss things that are. there's nothing to see. there's no one to see anything. what do you think is being missed? you kids are a real joy! especially because as things i see you're things that aren't there... (from what you say) i'd say baba has no need of anything more. who could possibly want more than the hilarity.. of reading your inept and illogical posts? LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you ever felt a sense of peace, and an easing of all the negativity? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wondering... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i think bob is like the incarnation of kali. with the sword in his hand he is always swinging to chop some heads off. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The others he's swinging at, he doesn't even know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S. it seems something like one walking into a glass/china shop with their arms swinging everywhere, pinwheeling around blindly, knocking dishes and glasses off shelves, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > All the china and glass being one's own, unknowingly. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's self-destructive behaviour, if one realizes that both self and other arise from the same Source. > > > > > > > > > > > > And of course, at the same time, just words -- nothing real ever being touched at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you see timmy.. > > > > > > > > > > if that was real to you.. > > > > > > > > > > you'd cut the whining and crying. > > > > > > > > Funny -- it seems here I've been speaking quite sanely/rationally, and haven't complained about a thing. > > > > > > > > I guess it depends what " I " is *really* involved, eh? ;-). > > > > > > > > Go ahead and whine/cry about whining/crying that isn't even happening with the other. > > > > > > > > It's interesting to watch the projector throw pictures onto a screen, while the screen is taken as reality instead of the projector. > > > > > > > > > what projector? > > > > The one making Bob see things that aren't there, and miss things that are. > > > there's nothing to see. > > there's no one to see anything. > > what do you think is being missed? For starters, the fact that Bob has never seen anything that isn't " himself " . Every word Bob has ever thought or uttered about others is self-referent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
