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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

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> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

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> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Good morning! A toast with strawberry jam? Tea or coffee?

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > > Tea, please.

> > >

> > > The Darjeeling, just a bit of sugar and cream.

> > >

> > > - D -

> >

> >

> > boys!

> >

> > is it really morning where you fellas are?

> >

> > or are you eyes just wide shut?

> >

> > :-)

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> tea is good for you.

>

> anytime.

>

> - d -

 

 

what " you " ?

 

and there " you " go with this " good " thing.

 

leave it rest.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

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> >

> > -

> > Tim G.

> > Nisargadatta

> > Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:50 PM

> > Re: ^^^^~~~~^^^^

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > dan330033

> > > Nisargadatta

> > >

> > > So, when you said, " let us find out what Lene means by Mind, " you were

> > > saying you want to do something that you don't want to do.

> > >

> > > And you call this " communicating " ?

> > >

> > > All righty then...

> > >

> > > - D -

> > >

> > > No. You said " Hi, Lene... I'll be damned if I can find a " mind " . Where

> > > should I look -- up, toward the ceiling? Down toward the floor?

> > > To the north? To the south? To the east? To the west? Ain't no such

> > > thingie. Mind is a myth. " . Remember?

> >

> > Actually, I said that, not Dan.

> >

> > But Dan is me, and I'm Dan.

> >

> > So, never mind.

> >

> > What Tim says, is what Dan says. What Dan says, is what Tim says.

> > -tim-

> >

> > Shit.......I thought it was dan.... :>)

> > WHY DONT YOU PUT YOUR @#$%#%$% NAME BELLOW YOUR POSTS???

> > Not just for me - but anyone interestd in reading them.

> > -geo-

>

> true.

>

> but also, if you look at the top of the post, you'll see the order of the

posters.

>

> - d -

 

 

 

 

 

yes dabbo likes orders from above doesn't he?

 

LOL!

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

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> >

> > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Good morning! A toast with strawberry jam? Tea or coffee?

> > > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > > > Tea, please.

> > > >

> > > > The Darjeeling, just a bit of sugar and cream.

> > > >

> > > > - D -

> > >

> > >

> > > boys!

> > >

> > > is it really morning where you fellas are?

> > >

> > > or are you eyes just wide shut?

> > >

> > > :-)

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> > tea is good for you.

> >

> > anytime.

> >

> > - d -

>

>

> what " you " ?

>

> and there " you " go with this " good " thing.

>

> leave it rest.

>

> .b b.b.

 

 

where?

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Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

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> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > Tim G.

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:50 PM

> > > Re: ^^^^~~~~^^^^

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > dan330033

> > > > Nisargadatta

> > > >

> > > > So, when you said, " let us find out what Lene means by Mind, " you were

> > > > saying you want to do something that you don't want to do.

> > > >

> > > > And you call this " communicating " ?

> > > >

> > > > All righty then...

> > > >

> > > > - D -

> > > >

> > > > No. You said " Hi, Lene... I'll be damned if I can find a " mind " . Where

> > > > should I look -- up, toward the ceiling? Down toward the floor?

> > > > To the north? To the south? To the east? To the west? Ain't no such

> > > > thingie. Mind is a myth. " . Remember?

> > >

> > > Actually, I said that, not Dan.

> > >

> > > But Dan is me, and I'm Dan.

> > >

> > > So, never mind.

> > >

> > > What Tim says, is what Dan says. What Dan says, is what Tim says.

> > > -tim-

> > >

> > > Shit.......I thought it was dan.... :>)

> > > WHY DONT YOU PUT YOUR @#$%#%$% NAME BELLOW YOUR POSTS???

> > > Not just for me - but anyone interestd in reading them.

> > > -geo-

> >

> > true.

> >

> > but also, if you look at the top of the post, you'll see the order of the

posters.

> >

> > - d -

>

>

>

>

>

> yes dabbo likes orders from above doesn't he?

>

> LOL!

>

> .b b.b.

 

 

he likes posters above.

 

and orders of french fries from below.

 

- d -

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

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> > nothing is important dabbo.

> >

> > what ever gives you the impression...

> >

> > that you ever had ANYTHING important to say or to answer.

> >

> > i suppose you think the " important " stuff is the " good " stuff too.

> >

> > what am i ever going to do with you dabbo?

> >

> > oh right..

> >

> > there is no you to do anything with by anyone anyway.

> >

> > well anyhoo..i get my kicks from dabbo.

> >

> > no matter what you say.

> >

> > LOL!

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> there you go again.

>

> mischaracterizing me as usual.

 

 

there " i " go?

 

mischaracterizing " you " ?

 

how uncharacteristic dabbo.

 

you say we are all one.

 

now here you go again changing your story.

 

and placing blame.

 

and speaking self righteously...again!

 

you're acting stupid.

 

but then of course you are.

 

 

 

 

 

>

> typical character assassin.

 

 

 

 

you have a character?

 

well you do seem to have a persecution complex.

 

you think i'm out to " get you " .

 

hahahahahaha.

 

you're silly dabbo.

 

 

 

 

 

>

> don't worry, sly stallone will play you when they make the movie.

 

 

 

he's too short..and he's got too big a nose..

 

and he's too stupid.

 

but if you like fantasy..and it's obvious that you do..

 

this will be the pic for you kid.

 

 

 

 

> i think the important stuff is the useless stuff.

>

> and i think the useless stuff is important.

 

 

 

 

 

 

so you think you're important in a roundabout way huh?

 

way to go useless.

 

 

 

 

 

 

>

> the space between the words, i like as much as the words.

 

 

 

good for you.

 

too much information dabbo.

 

nobody cares.

 

and that's an old saw anyway.

 

don't you ever have anything of your own to use?

 

 

 

>

> it's better that you get your kicks from dabbo than cocaine.

>

> i'm glad you get no kick from cocaine.

>

> the rain in spain stays mainly down the drain.

>

> all the way down.

>

> know what I mean?

>

> jelly bean ...

 

 

no i don't swishy.

 

but i do know you are no poet.

 

i know you are no mystic.

 

i know you have no wit.

 

i know you act like a little boy.

 

i know there's no use talking to a two by four.

 

so i'll stop now.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

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> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > dan330033

> > > > Nisargadatta

> > > >

> > > > So, when you said, " let us find out what Lene means by Mind, " you were

> > > > saying you want to do something that you don't want to do.

> > > >

> > > > And you call this " communicating " ?

> > > >

> > > > All righty then...

> > > >

> > > > - D -

> > > >

> > > > No. You said " Hi, Lene... I'll be damned if I can find a " mind " . Where

> > > > should I look -- up, toward the ceiling? Down toward the floor?

> > > > To the north? To the south? To the east? To the west? Ain't no such

> > > > thingie. Mind is a myth. " . Remember?

> > >

> > > Actually, I said that, not Dan.

> > >

> > > But Dan is me, and I'm Dan.

> > >

> > > So, never mind.

> > >

> > > What Tim says, is what Dan says. What Dan says, is what Tim says.

> >

> >

> > i KNEW you two had a " thing " goin' on!

> >

> > LOL!

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

>

> no babbo, that's me and mrs. jones you're thinking of.

>

> we had a thing going on.

>

>

> but you wouldn't know about that.

>

> you don't know what it is, do you, mr. jones ...

>

>

> - d -

 

 

i don't know anything dabbo.

 

and neither do you.

 

but you sure do want people to think that you do.

 

that's funny.

 

that's what i like about you.

 

but give up the attempts at wit.

 

it's ok for you to pretend that you know something..

 

even though you don't..

 

but that bad stuff that you think witty..

 

that just plain stinks.

 

i know you don't read all my words..

 

so i know you won't feel pissed.

 

you can just go on blindly making a fool of yourself then.

 

i tried to tell you but you just didn't read my words.

 

but don't ever say no one told you how bad you were at funny.

 

you just don't have the ears to hear and you've even said so.

 

LOL!

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

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> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > True. But you said " there is only the unmanifest, the unborn. " ....so

there

> > > > was imparted a meaning to the terms.

> > >

> > > Agreed.

> > >

> > > > Let us not be deluded by the " is-there

> > > > is not " game.

> > >

> > > Agreed again.

> > >

> > > Understanding beyond the words, means that the duality involved in all

words and any position - is understood as not. The duality is just an aspect of

any word, and every word, and any and all ways words can be strung together.

Any position taken about anything - the same way.

> > >

> > > The duality implied by any words, ideas, memories, the play of opposites

through feelings - it all amounts to a " not there " once understood as is.

> > >

> > > > It is the only game bbb (for example) is able to play - unconsciously.

When

> > > > we say things are, we mean they are AS waves - it is true (why not,

after

> > > > all they have names?). When we say " things are not " we mean the real is

the

> > > > unchanging and all changing is just empty patterns. Both can be

contemplated

> > > > as correct.

> > >

> > > Each is the other.

> > >

> > > " Is " and " is not " " yes " and " no "

> > >

> > > Things being there.

> > >

> > > Things not there.

> > >

> > > It's just that it's impossible to convey through words or any other way.

> > >

> > > It's clear why that is so.

> > >

> > > So, the understanding, the realization of it, can't be through someone

else or something else.

> > >

> > > Not even through an experience, to whatever extent an experience comes and

goes.

> > >

> > >

> > > > First there is mountain, then there is not, then there is.

> > >

> > > > The " is-there is not " is a silly trap when not noticed.

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > > It's a version of the " it's there " " no, it's not there " " I want to be

there " " I can't be there " difficulty in terms of people's emotions and how a

movie can stir that up.

> > >

> > > It's ready to get stirred up, in various ways.

> > >

> > > It is the human experience, insofar as that experiencing is to have and

lose, to get close then distant.

> > >

> >

> >

> > to " to get close then distant. " with what?

>

>

> the imagined other.

>

>

> >

> > what's " ready to get stirred up " ?

> >

> > oh wait..

> >

> > it's " yes and no " and " black and white " and " up and down " ..

> >

> > and " nobody's home " and " i am you " and " it's all One{ " and " Now " .

> >

> > uh huh.

> >

> > so you say you've been experiencing some bad things lately huh?

> >

> > it's NOW clear as Day.

> >

> > Zowie!

> >

> > just like a Zen Master and everything!

> >

> > i just know all the readers are impressed with me...

> >

> > and you who is me of course of course.

> >

> > the me (and you) that's neither here and not there.

> >

> > the " not there " that is..

> >

> > " up and down " ...and all around the town that isn't.

> >

> > gosh this is terrific stuff.

> >

> > may i say...almost " stirring " what?

> >

> > as in the emotional upheaval gone through in a movie..

> >

> > like:

> >

> > " it's there " " no..it's not there " ..

> >

> > " I want to be there " ... " I can't be there " ...

> >

> > a definite difficulty in terms of people's emotions fer sure.

> >

> > i'm so glad (even though i'm not here)..

> >

> > that i'm above all that stuff.

> >

> > just like you dabbo.

> >

> > tell mne about it kid.

> >

> > ok i will.

> >

> > but i as dabbo don't read my stuff.

>

>

> when it gets too wordy and repetitive, babar.

>

>

> > ok so don't tell me about it.

> >

> > but i already did.

> >

> > no..nothing happened.

> >

> > but " one " just has to say..

> >

> > " it's just so beautiful and RIGHT and deep and all that there stuff. "

> >

> > LOL!

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> the emptiness is amazing.

 

 

amazing to who?

 

 

 

>

> amazingly empty and full.

 

 

sure dab.

 

 

> and all that stuff.

>

> blah, blah, blah.

 

 

 

 

that's the best you've come up with so far today.

 

 

 

>

> it's one of those things.

>

> you just gotta be there to appreciate.

 

 

 

 

you keep saying you aren't there.

 

now you say you gotta be there.

 

you change your story as needed..

 

in order to pretend that you know..

 

what the hell it is you're trying to say.

 

you're more of a fruitcake than is available at Christmas.

 

 

>

> not that talking about it matters one way or another.

>

>

> - dib dab -

 

 

there is another way?

 

ROFLMAO!

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

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> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Good morning! A toast with strawberry jam? Tea or coffee?

> > > > > > -geo-

> > > > >

> > > > > Tea, please.

> > > > >

> > > > > The Darjeeling, just a bit of sugar and cream.

> > > > >

> > > > > - D -

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > boys!

> > > >

> > > > is it really morning where you fellas are?

> > > >

> > > > or are you eyes just wide shut?

> > > >

> > > > :-)

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > tea is good for you.

> > >

> > > anytime.

> > >

> > > - d -

> >

> >

> > what " you " ?

> >

> > and there " you " go with this " good " thing.

> >

> > leave it rest.

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

>

> where?

 

 

if you can ask where..

 

you already know.

 

you're no zen dude dabbo.

 

you're just a little lost boy.

 

rest now.

 

and you do know where.

 

right inside your crib.

 

on top of your Thomas the Tank Engine matty.

 

rise that little engine that could to dreamland lad!

 

:-)

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> the emptiness is amazing.

>

> amazingly empty and full.

>

> and all that stuff.

>

> blah, blah, blah.

>

> it's one of those things.

>

> you just gotta be there to appreciate.

 

Naah... you gotta be 'here' to appreciate it.

 

Being 'there' don't cut it ;-).

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > the emptiness is amazing.

> >

> > amazingly empty and full.

> >

> > and all that stuff.

> >

> > blah, blah, blah.

> >

> > it's one of those things.

> >

> > you just gotta be there to appreciate.

>

> Naah... you gotta be 'here' to appreciate it.

>

> Being 'there' don't cut it ;-).

 

 

I know what you mean.

 

Although saying " here " doesn't really cut it, either.

 

For the same reason.

 

- D -

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > the emptiness is amazing.

> >

> > amazingly empty and full.

> >

> > and all that stuff.

> >

> > blah, blah, blah.

> >

> > it's one of those things.

> >

> > you just gotta be there to appreciate.

>

> Naah... you gotta be 'here' to appreciate it.

>

> Being 'there' don't cut it ;-).

 

 

 

 

and that " being here " don't cut it either.

 

nope.

 

if there's a " someone " or a " somewhat " anywhere..

 

whether " here " or " there " or even nowhere..

 

that doesn't " cut it " .

 

a " someone " or a " somewhat " ..

 

can only " be " in a " place " of " here " or " there " ..

 

if " it " or " they " are " cut off " from the elsewhere...

 

to " establish " a " presence " in a " here " or " there " .

 

separation supremo!

 

the only cut that's being made in what you speak..

 

is a brain-fart.

 

and that's not appreciated by anyone.

 

which also brings us to..

 

if there's a " someone " or a " somewhat " ..

 

that can " appreciate " as opposed to not " appreciate " ...

 

anything whatsoever..

 

there is not an undivided wholeness or Unity or Oneness.

 

we have a " something " which is " being appreciated " by a " someone " .

 

you seem to be so cut off from It timmy.

 

but you wouldn't understand.

 

you " re like a busy little bee..

 

buzzing around in your " be here now " honey like a rammed ass.

 

they may sound like a mixed metaphor..

 

but it ain't.

 

not if you've ever read Ram Das the queer guy for the zen guy...

 

or soo guy or gal guy or whatever it was he was about.

 

and whatever i can't remember i remember to not forget that i forgot.

 

so forget about it.

 

..b b.b.

:-)

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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>

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> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > the emptiness is amazing.

> > >

> > > amazingly empty and full.

> > >

> > > and all that stuff.

> > >

> > > blah, blah, blah.

> > >

> > > it's one of those things.

> > >

> > > you just gotta be there to appreciate.

> >

> > Naah... you gotta be 'here' to appreciate it.

> >

> > Being 'there' don't cut it ;-).

>

>

> I know what you mean.

>

> Although saying " here " doesn't really cut it, either.

>

> For the same reason.

>

> - D -

 

 

i know what you mean and it doesn't mean anything.

 

for no reason at all.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > the emptiness is amazing.

> > >

> > > amazingly empty and full.

> > >

> > > and all that stuff.

> > >

> > > blah, blah, blah.

> > >

> > > it's one of those things.

> > >

> > > you just gotta be there to appreciate.

> >

> > Naah... you gotta be 'here' to appreciate it.

> >

> > Being 'there' don't cut it ;-).

>

>

> I know what you mean.

>

> Although saying " here " doesn't really cut it, either.

>

> For the same reason.

>

> - D -

>

 

" Not imagining to be there, then " covers it OK.

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > the emptiness is amazing.

> > > >

> > > > amazingly empty and full.

> > > >

> > > > and all that stuff.

> > > >

> > > > blah, blah, blah.

> > > >

> > > > it's one of those things.

> > > >

> > > > you just gotta be there to appreciate.

> > >

> > > Naah... you gotta be 'here' to appreciate it.

> > >

> > > Being 'there' don't cut it ;-).

> >

> >

> > I know what you mean.

> >

> > Although saying " here " doesn't really cut it, either.

> >

> > For the same reason.

> >

> > - D -

> >

>

> " Not imagining to be there, then " covers it OK.

 

 

why is it important to you?

 

are you insecure about this?

 

would it be better if you had a leader to guide you?

 

would you like dabbo to be your " guiding light " ?

 

is it better in the summertime?

 

is it not as good on Easter Island?

 

are peculiar people after you?

 

do you believe in God? aliens? history? white castle hamburgers?

 

if you had a choice would you choose?

 

are you old enough to know that you're not sure if you know?

 

are you too young to notice that you're not so old?

 

does your chewing gum taste the same before or after?

 

if you could be only one thing when would you start questioning it?

 

is it alright to not be so alright about not being wrong?

 

is there a pocket in your pocket?

 

can you save money on car insurance?

 

can you lose money if you don't find any?

 

do you gamble too much?

 

wanna bet?

 

is your idea of a good time about not having enough time?

 

if you've answered one or more of these questions..

 

question why.

 

it's a better thing that you don't do..

 

than you have ever not done before.

 

do you remember lick-a-maids?

 

never?

 

sometimes?

 

always?

 

you don't remember if you remember or not?

 

is there a song that never ends?

 

how long have you been listening to it?

 

how about it anyway?

 

so that's it huh?

 

wanna fight?

 

don't be nasty.

 

i imagine this then covers it or at least delivers a ko.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > the emptiness is amazing.

> > > >

> > > > amazingly empty and full.

> > > >

> > > > and all that stuff.

> > > >

> > > > blah, blah, blah.

> > > >

> > > > it's one of those things.

> > > >

> > > > you just gotta be there to appreciate.

> > >

> > > Naah... you gotta be 'here' to appreciate it.

> > >

> > > Being 'there' don't cut it ;-).

> >

> >

> > I know what you mean.

> >

> > Although saying " here " doesn't really cut it, either.

> >

> > For the same reason.

> >

> > - D -

> >

>

> " Not imagining to be there, then " covers it OK.

 

 

why is it important to you?

 

are you insecure about this?

 

would it be better if you had a leader to guide you?

 

would you like dabbo to be your " guiding light " ?

 

is it better in the summertime?

 

is it not as good on Easter Island?

 

are peculiar people after you?

 

do you believe in God? aliens? history? white castle hamburgers?

 

if you had a choice would you choose?

 

are you old enough to know that you're not sure if you know?

 

are you too young to notice that you're not so old?

 

does your chewing gum taste the same before or after?

 

if you could be only one thing when would you start questioning it?

 

is it alright to not be so alright about not being wrong?

 

is there a pocket in your pocket?

 

can you save money on car insurance?

 

can you lose money if you don't find any?

 

do you gamble too much?

 

wanna bet?

 

is your idea of a good time about not having enough time?

 

if you've answered one or more of these questions..

 

question why.

 

it's a better thing that you don't do..

 

than you have ever not done before.

 

do you remember lick-a-maids?

 

never?

 

sometimes?

 

always?

 

you don't remember if you remember or not?

 

is there a song that never ends?

 

how long have you been listening to it?

 

how about it anyway?

 

so that's it huh?

 

wanna fight?

 

don't be nasty.

 

i imagine this then covers it or at least delivers a ko.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > the emptiness is amazing.

> > > > >

> > > > > amazingly empty and full.

> > > > >

> > > > > and all that stuff.

> > > > >

> > > > > blah, blah, blah.

> > > > >

> > > > > it's one of those things.

> > > > >

> > > > > you just gotta be there to appreciate.

> > > >

> > > > Naah... you gotta be 'here' to appreciate it.

> > > >

> > > > Being 'there' don't cut it ;-).

> > >

> > >

> > > I know what you mean.

> > >

> > > Although saying " here " doesn't really cut it, either.

> > >

> > > For the same reason.

> > >

> > > - D -

> > >

> >

> > " Not imagining to be there, then " covers it OK.

>

>

> why is it important to you?

>

> are you insecure about this?

>

> would it be better if you had a leader to guide you?

>

> would you like dabbo to be your " guiding light " ?

>

> is it better in the summertime?

>

> is it not as good on Easter Island?

>

> are peculiar people after you?

>

> do you believe in God? aliens? history? white castle hamburgers?

>

> if you had a choice would you choose?

>

> are you old enough to know that you're not sure if you know?

>

> are you too young to notice that you're not so old?

>

> does your chewing gum taste the same before or after?

>

> if you could be only one thing when would you start questioning it?

>

> is it alright to not be so alright about not being wrong?

>

> is there a pocket in your pocket?

>

> can you save money on car insurance?

>

> can you lose money if you don't find any?

>

> do you gamble too much?

>

> wanna bet?

>

> is your idea of a good time about not having enough time?

>

> if you've answered one or more of these questions..

>

> question why.

>

> it's a better thing that you don't do..

>

> than you have ever not done before.

>

> do you remember lick-a-maids?

>

> never?

>

> sometimes?

>

> always?

>

> you don't remember if you remember or not?

>

> is there a song that never ends?

>

> how long have you been listening to it?

>

> how about it anyway?

>

> so that's it huh?

>

> wanna fight?

>

> don't be nasty.

>

> i imagine this then covers it or at least delivers a ko.

>

> .b b.b.

 

 

finally!

 

 

- D -

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

>

> the emptiness is amazing.

>

> amazingly empty and full.

>

> and all that stuff.

>

> blah, blah, blah.

 

The completeness of its aloneness is amazing, too.

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > the emptiness is amazing.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > amazingly empty and full.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > and all that stuff.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > blah, blah, blah.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > it's one of those things.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > you just gotta be there to appreciate.

> > > > >

> > > > > Naah... you gotta be 'here' to appreciate it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Being 'there' don't cut it ;-).

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I know what you mean.

> > > >

> > > > Although saying " here " doesn't really cut it, either.

> > > >

> > > > For the same reason.

> > > >

> > > > - D -

> > > >

> > >

> > > " Not imagining to be there, then " covers it OK.

> >

> >

> > why is it important to you?

> >

> > are you insecure about this?

> >

> > would it be better if you had a leader to guide you?

> >

> > would you like dabbo to be your " guiding light " ?

> >

> > is it better in the summertime?

> >

> > is it not as good on Easter Island?

> >

> > are peculiar people after you?

> >

> > do you believe in God? aliens? history? white castle hamburgers?

> >

> > if you had a choice would you choose?

> >

> > are you old enough to know that you're not sure if you know?

> >

> > are you too young to notice that you're not so old?

> >

> > does your chewing gum taste the same before or after?

> >

> > if you could be only one thing when would you start questioning it?

> >

> > is it alright to not be so alright about not being wrong?

> >

> > is there a pocket in your pocket?

> >

> > can you save money on car insurance?

> >

> > can you lose money if you don't find any?

> >

> > do you gamble too much?

> >

> > wanna bet?

> >

> > is your idea of a good time about not having enough time?

> >

> > if you've answered one or more of these questions..

> >

> > question why.

> >

> > it's a better thing that you don't do..

> >

> > than you have ever not done before.

> >

> > do you remember lick-a-maids?

> >

> > never?

> >

> > sometimes?

> >

> > always?

> >

> > you don't remember if you remember or not?

> >

> > is there a song that never ends?

> >

> > how long have you been listening to it?

> >

> > how about it anyway?

> >

> > so that's it huh?

> >

> > wanna fight?

> >

> > don't be nasty.

> >

> > i imagine this then covers it or at least delivers a ko.

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

>

> finally!

>

>

> - D -

 

 

is anything ever " final " dabbo?

 

are horses just horses or are they something else?

 

if it's all really nothing...does that " include " those horses?

 

is that " nothing " stuff a bunch of bull?

 

if it is all bull can it still include horses?

 

is any of this really necessary?

 

whether it is or isn't..for whom is it or isn't it?

 

can so on and so forth be beforehand?

 

does ...

 

no..no more..

 

this is more (or less) getting to up front and personal..

 

what's behind it all impersonally anyway?

 

anyway in every way let's today leave off and move on.

 

looking back...right up front..baba stands behind moving forward.

 

i love you dabbo.

 

so move ahead and get behind baba..get down and back him up.

 

that makes two of us.

 

Wherever two or more are gathered in My Name..

 

My Name is There which is left Here as your Helper.

 

Where baba is so is baba.

 

LO! " It " IS..

 

and so " HE " remains among the remains Pure and Simple.....

 

even unto AND after death which cannot happen to the Unborn..

 

baba rocks on.

 

Wonderfulness!

 

does that answer your unasked question..finally?

 

is anything really " final " ..

 

......

 

....

 

...

 

..

 

 

maybe...most certainly huh?

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > the emptiness is amazing.

> >

> > amazingly empty and full.

> >

> > and all that stuff.

> >

> > blah, blah, blah.

>

> The completeness of its aloneness is amazing, too.

 

 

the empty headed tell thee so?

 

LOL!

 

..b b.b.

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The fact that there is not two of us, is a truly stunning miracle.-tim-

 

Funny, "stunning miracle" does not seem that much different from "marvelous".

-geo-

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--- On Thu, 1/14/10, BobN <Roberibus111 wrote:

 

> BobN <Roberibus111

> Re: ^^^^~~~~^^^^

> Nisargadatta

> Thursday, January 14, 2010, 10:21 AM

>

Nisargadatta ,

> " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta ,

> " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta ,

> " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta ,

> " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta ,

> " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta ,

> " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > the emptiness is amazing.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > amazingly empty and full.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > and all that stuff.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > blah, blah, blah.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > it's one of those things.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > you just gotta be there to

> appreciate.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Naah... you gotta be 'here' to

> appreciate it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Being 'there' don't cut it ;-).

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I know what you mean.

> > > > >

> > > > > Although saying " here " doesn't really

> cut it, either.

> > > > >

> > > > > For the same reason.

> > > > >

> > > > > - D -

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > " Not imagining to be there, then " covers it

> OK.

> > >

> > >

> > > why is it important to you?

> > >

> > > are you insecure about this?

> > >

> > > would it be  better if you had a leader to

> guide you?

> > >

> > > would you like dabbo to be your " guiding light " ?

> > >

> > > is it better in the summertime?

> > >

> > > is it not as good on Easter Island?

> > >

> > > are peculiar people after you?

> > >

> > > do you believe in God? aliens? history? white

> castle hamburgers?

> > >

> > > if you had a choice would you choose?

> > >

> > > are you old enough to know that you're not sure

> if you know?

> > >

> > > are you too young to notice that you're not so

> old?

> > >

> > > does your chewing gum taste the same before or

> after?

> > >

> > > if you could be only one thing when would you

> start questioning it?

> > >

> > > is it alright to not be so alright about not

> being wrong?

> > >

> > > is there a pocket in your pocket?

> > >

> > > can you save money on car insurance?

> > >

> > > can you lose money if you don't find any?

> > >

> > > do you gamble too much?

> > >

> > > wanna bet?

> > >

> > > is your idea of a good time about not having

> enough time?

> > >

> > > if you've answered one or more of these

> questions..

> > >

> > > question why.

> > >

> > > it's a better thing that you don't do..

> > >

> > > than you have ever not done before.

> > >

> > > do you remember lick-a-maids?

> > >

> > > never?

> > >

> > > sometimes?

> > >

> > > always?

> > >

> > > you don't remember if you remember or not?

> > >

> > > is there a song that never ends?

> > >

> > > how long have you been listening to it?

> > >

> > > how about it anyway?

> > >

> > > so that's it huh?

> > >

> > > wanna fight?

> > >

> > > don't be nasty.

> > >

> > > i imagine this then covers it or at least

> delivers a ko.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> >

> > finally!

> >

> >

> > - D -

>

>

> is anything ever " final " dabbo?

>

> are horses just horses or are they something else?

>

> if it's all really nothing...does that " include " those

> horses?

>

A horse is a horse, of course, of course,

 

And no one can talk of a horse with force.

 

That is, of course, because the word does divorce

 

That thing that in itself was said.

 

-meth

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Nisargadatta , john <methusalum wrote:

>

>

>

> --- On Thu, 1/14/10, BobN <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> > BobN <Roberibus111

> > Re: ^^^^~~~~^^^^

> > Nisargadatta

> > Thursday, January 14, 2010, 10:21 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta ,

> > " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta ,

> > " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta ,

> > " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta ,

> > " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta ,

> > " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta ,

> > " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the emptiness is amazing.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > amazingly empty and full.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > and all that stuff.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > blah, blah, blah.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > it's one of those things.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > you just gotta be there to

> > appreciate.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Naah... you gotta be 'here' to

> > appreciate it.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Being 'there' don't cut it ;-).

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I know what you mean.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Although saying " here " doesn't really

> > cut it, either.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For the same reason.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - D -

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > " Not imagining to be there, then " covers it

> > OK.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > why is it important to you?

> > > >

> > > > are you insecure about this?

> > > >

> > > > would it be  better if you had a leader to

> > guide you?

> > > >

> > > > would you like dabbo to be your " guiding light " ?

> > > >

> > > > is it better in the summertime?

> > > >

> > > > is it not as good on Easter Island?

> > > >

> > > > are peculiar people after you?

> > > >

> > > > do you believe in God? aliens? history? white

> > castle hamburgers?

> > > >

> > > > if you had a choice would you choose?

> > > >

> > > > are you old enough to know that you're not sure

> > if you know?

> > > >

> > > > are you too young to notice that you're not so

> > old?

> > > >

> > > > does your chewing gum taste the same before or

> > after?

> > > >

> > > > if you could be only one thing when would you

> > start questioning it?

> > > >

> > > > is it alright to not be so alright about not

> > being wrong?

> > > >

> > > > is there a pocket in your pocket?

> > > >

> > > > can you save money on car insurance?

> > > >

> > > > can you lose money if you don't find any?

> > > >

> > > > do you gamble too much?

> > > >

> > > > wanna bet?

> > > >

> > > > is your idea of a good time about not having

> > enough time?

> > > >

> > > > if you've answered one or more of these

> > questions..

> > > >

> > > > question why.

> > > >

> > > > it's a better thing that you don't do..

> > > >

> > > > than you have ever not done before.

> > > >

> > > > do you remember lick-a-maids?

> > > >

> > > > never?

> > > >

> > > > sometimes?

> > > >

> > > > always?

> > > >

> > > > you don't remember if you remember or not?

> > > >

> > > > is there a song that never ends?

> > > >

> > > > how long have you been listening to it?

> > > >

> > > > how about it anyway?

> > > >

> > > > so that's it huh?

> > > >

> > > > wanna fight?

> > > >

> > > > don't be nasty.

> > > >

> > > > i imagine this then covers it or at least

> > delivers a ko.

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > >

> > > finally!

> > >

> > >

> > > - D -

> >

> >

> > is anything ever " final " dabbo?

> >

> > are horses just horses or are they something else?

> >

> > if it's all really nothing...does that " include " those

> > horses?

> >

> A horse is a horse, of course, of course,

>

> And no one can talk of a horse with force.

>

> That is, of course, because the word does divorce

>

> That thing that in itself was said.

>

> -meth

 

 

you don't say.

 

well neigh hey hey.

 

:-)

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > the emptiness is amazing.

> >

> > amazingly empty and full.

> >

> > and all that stuff.

> >

> > blah, blah, blah.

>

> The completeness of its aloneness is amazing, too.

 

I've seen Chinese screen paintings that show a single pine on a mountain side.

 

This is what those paintings convey, pictorially.

 

- D -

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Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

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> > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

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> > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

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> > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

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> > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

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> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > the emptiness is amazing.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > amazingly empty and full.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > and all that stuff.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > blah, blah, blah.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > it's one of those things.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > you just gotta be there to appreciate.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Naah... you gotta be 'here' to appreciate it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Being 'there' don't cut it ;-).

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I know what you mean.

> > > > >

> > > > > Although saying " here " doesn't really cut it, either.

> > > > >

> > > > > For the same reason.

> > > > >

> > > > > - D -

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > " Not imagining to be there, then " covers it OK.

> > >

> > >

> > > why is it important to you?

> > >

> > > are you insecure about this?

> > >

> > > would it be better if you had a leader to guide you?

> > >

> > > would you like dabbo to be your " guiding light " ?

> > >

> > > is it better in the summertime?

> > >

> > > is it not as good on Easter Island?

> > >

> > > are peculiar people after you?

> > >

> > > do you believe in God? aliens? history? white castle hamburgers?

> > >

> > > if you had a choice would you choose?

> > >

> > > are you old enough to know that you're not sure if you know?

> > >

> > > are you too young to notice that you're not so old?

> > >

> > > does your chewing gum taste the same before or after?

> > >

> > > if you could be only one thing when would you start questioning it?

> > >

> > > is it alright to not be so alright about not being wrong?

> > >

> > > is there a pocket in your pocket?

> > >

> > > can you save money on car insurance?

> > >

> > > can you lose money if you don't find any?

> > >

> > > do you gamble too much?

> > >

> > > wanna bet?

> > >

> > > is your idea of a good time about not having enough time?

> > >

> > > if you've answered one or more of these questions..

> > >

> > > question why.

> > >

> > > it's a better thing that you don't do..

> > >

> > > than you have ever not done before.

> > >

> > > do you remember lick-a-maids?

> > >

> > > never?

> > >

> > > sometimes?

> > >

> > > always?

> > >

> > > you don't remember if you remember or not?

> > >

> > > is there a song that never ends?

> > >

> > > how long have you been listening to it?

> > >

> > > how about it anyway?

> > >

> > > so that's it huh?

> > >

> > > wanna fight?

> > >

> > > don't be nasty.

> > >

> > > i imagine this then covers it or at least delivers a ko.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> >

> > finally!

> >

> >

> > - D -

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>

> is anything ever " final " dabbo?

>

> are horses just horses or are they something else?

>

> if it's all really nothing...does that " include " those horses?

>

> is that " nothing " stuff a bunch of bull?

>

> if it is all bull can it still include horses?

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> is any of this really necessary?

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> whether it is or isn't..for whom is it or isn't it?

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> can so on and so forth be beforehand?

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> does ...

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> no..no more..

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> this is more (or less) getting to up front and personal..

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> what's behind it all impersonally anyway?

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> anyway in every way let's today leave off and move on.

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> looking back...right up front..baba stands behind moving forward.

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> i love you dabbo.

>

> so move ahead and get behind baba..get down and back him up.

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> that makes two of us.

>

> Wherever two or more are gathered in My Name..

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> My Name is There which is left Here as your Helper.

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> Where baba is so is baba.

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> LO! " It " IS..

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> and so " HE " remains among the remains Pure and Simple.....

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> even unto AND after death which cannot happen to the Unborn..

>

> baba rocks on.

>

> Wonderfulness!

>

> does that answer your unasked question..finally?

>

> is anything really " final " ..

>

> .....

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> ...

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> ..

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> .

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> maybe...most certainly huh?

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> .b b.b.

 

 

Yes, definitely certainly absolutely final.

 

Or not, as the case may be.

 

Or not be.

 

 

Baba loves dabbo.

 

Dabbo loves baba.

 

One for all, and all for none.

 

 

 

The infintesimal finitude of the nothing, is nothing to sneeze at.

 

 

Hark, it's a dwarf.

 

 

Yours,

 

Sneezy

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

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> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > the emptiness is amazing.

> > >

> > > amazingly empty and full.

> > >

> > > and all that stuff.

> > >

> > > blah, blah, blah.

> >

> > The completeness of its aloneness is amazing, too.

>

> I've seen Chinese screen paintings that show a single pine on a mountain side.

>

> This is what those paintings convey, pictorially.

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> - D -

 

 

i've got a Japanese room divider painting that shows nothing at all.

 

it conveys this verbally.

 

but you have to listen real hard...

 

from the other side of the room it divides...

 

when you aren't there.

 

..b b.b.

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