The Situation with Consciosness

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Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

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> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

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> > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

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> > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

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> > > > > P: The absolute exist in language. It's the wording of a concept.

> > > > > Do you perceive any other absolute that is not a sensation, or

> > > > > a concept?

> > > > >

> > > > > geo> Existence is just in language....cool.

> > > > > The perceiver of an absolute...and the absolute, makes two of them.

Fine.

> > > >

> > > > P: I didn't mention existence. If you think

> > > > absolute and existence mean the same, your

> > > > problem with semantics is worse than I thought.

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> > > Absolute means essentially " ab-solute " , not in solution, not watered down,

" pure " -- without a second, if ya will.

> > >

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> > As this is ostensibly Nis's list, let's let him have his input ;-):

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> > Questioner: Shapes and names are all of one and the same God?

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> > Maharaj: Again, it all depends on how you look at it. On the verbal level

everything is relative. Absolutes should be experienced, not discussed.

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> " depends on how " you " look at " it " " ?????????????????????????????

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> it doesn't get more dual than that.

>

> Nizzy was talking through his nose.

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> and to think some kids think that's wise snot!

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> s'not!

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> sheesh!

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> .b b.b.

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Did you got tired after reading that first line... " wise snot " ?

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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> > > > > P: The absolute exist in language. It's the wording of a concept.

> > > > > Do you perceive any other absolute that is not a sensation, or

> > > > > a concept?

> > > > >

> > > > > geo> Existence is just in language....cool.

> > > > > The perceiver of an absolute...and the absolute, makes two of them.

> > > > > Fine.

> > > >

> > > > P: I didn't mention existence. If you think

> > > > absolute and existence mean the same, your

> > > > problem with semantics is worse than I thought.

> > > > >

> > >

> > > Absolute means essentially " ab-solute " , not in solution, not watered

> > > down, " pure " -- without a second, if ya will.

> > >

> >

> > As this is ostensibly Nis's list, let's let him have his input ;-):

> >

> > Questioner: Shapes and names are all of one and the same God?

> >

> > Maharaj: Again, it all depends on how you look at it. On the verbal level

> > everything is relative. Absolutes should be experienced, not discussed.

>

> geo> The term " I " has several connotations, including one - the most

> difficult and most obvious - that is immovable and absolute.

 

 

even one connotation is one too many.

 

not two.

 

if needed...repeat this again and again.

 

when " absolute " and " imovable " are imployed as qualifying terms..

 

then that which is other than " absolute " ..

 

othere than " imovable " ..

 

are at once brought into consideration.

 

thus it is that Truth is lost immediately.

 

don't try and sound enlightened.

 

" you " most certainly are not.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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> > > > > P: The absolute exist in language. It's the wording of a concept.

> > > > > Do you perceive any other absolute that is not a sensation, or

> > > > > a concept?

> > > > >

> > > > > geo> Existence is just in language....cool.

> > > > > The perceiver of an absolute...and the absolute, makes two of them.

> > > > > Fine.

> > > >

> > > > P: I didn't mention existence. If you think

> > > > absolute and existence mean the same, your

> > > > problem with semantics is worse than I thought.

> > > > >

> > >

> > > Absolute means essentially " ab-solute " , not in solution, not watered

> > > down, " pure " -- without a second, if ya will.

> > >

> >

> > As this is ostensibly Nis's list, let's let him have his input ;-):

> >

> > Questioner: Shapes and names are all of one and the same God?

> >

> > Maharaj: Again, it all depends on how you look at it. On the verbal level

> > everything is relative. Absolutes should be experienced, not discussed.

>

> " depends on how " you " look at " it " " ?????????????????????????????

>

> it doesn't get more dual than that.

>

> Nizzy was talking through his nose.

>

> and to think some kids think that's wise snot!

>

> s'not!

>

> sheesh!

>

> .b b.b.

>

> Very shallow this analysis of yours. " Depends on how you look at it " does

> not mean " sit and look at the absolute in this or that way " , but an

> idiomatic expression that implies in the possibility of understanding

> something in several different manners. C'mon.....you can do better then

> that.

> -geo-

 

 

this is not an analysis.

 

your shallowness makes it seem as though it is.

 

you cannot do better than that however.

 

i understand.

 

..b b.b.

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> > > > P: The absolute exist in language. It's the wording of a concept.

> > > > Do you perceive any other absolute that is not a sensation, or

> > > > a concept?

> > > >

> > > > geo> Existence is just in language....cool.

> > > > The perceiver of an absolute...and the absolute, makes two of them.

> > > > Fine.

> > >

> > > P: I didn't mention existence. If you think

> > > absolute and existence mean the same, your

> > > problem with semantics is worse than I thought.

> > > >

> >

> > Absolute means essentially " ab-solute " , not in solution, not watered

> > down, " pure " -- without a second, if ya will.

> >

>

> As this is ostensibly Nis's list, let's let him have his input ;-):

>

> Questioner: Shapes and names are all of one and the same God?

>

> Maharaj: Again, it all depends on how you look at it. On the verbal level

> everything is relative. Absolutes should be experienced, not discussed.

 

geo> The term " I " has several connotations, including one - the most

difficult and most obvious - that is immovable and absolute.

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> > > > P: The absolute exist in language. It's the wording of a concept.

> > > > Do you perceive any other absolute that is not a sensation, or

> > > > a concept?

> > > >

> > > > geo> Existence is just in language....cool.

> > > > The perceiver of an absolute...and the absolute, makes two of them.

> > > > Fine.

> > >

> > > P: I didn't mention existence. If you think

> > > absolute and existence mean the same, your

> > > problem with semantics is worse than I thought.

> > > >

> >

> > Absolute means essentially " ab-solute " , not in solution, not watered

> > down, " pure " -- without a second, if ya will.

> >

>

> As this is ostensibly Nis's list, let's let him have his input ;-):

>

> Questioner: Shapes and names are all of one and the same God?

>

> Maharaj: Again, it all depends on how you look at it. On the verbal level

> everything is relative. Absolutes should be experienced, not discussed.

 

" depends on how " you " look at " it " " ?????????????????????????????

 

it doesn't get more dual than that.

 

Nizzy was talking through his nose.

 

and to think some kids think that's wise snot!

 

s'not!

 

sheesh!

 

..b b.b.

 

Very shallow this analysis of yours. " Depends on how you look at it " does

not mean " sit and look at the absolute in this or that way " , but an

idiomatic expression that implies in the possibility of understanding

something in several different manners. C'mon.....you can do better then

that.

-geo-

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Tim G.

Nisargadatta

Friday, December 04, 2009 4:17 PM

Re: The Situation with Consciosness

 

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > P: The absolute exist in language. It's the wording of a concept.

> > Do you perceive any other absolute that is not a sensation, or

> > a concept?

> >

> > geo> Existence is just in language....cool.

> > The perceiver of an absolute...and the absolute, makes two of them.

> > Fine.

>

> P: I didn't mention existence. If you think

> absolute and existence mean the same, your

> problem with semantics is worse than I thought.

> >

 

Absolute means essentially " ab-solute " , not in solution, not watered down,

" pure " -- without a second, if ya will.

-tim-

 

Like sub-atomic particles can not get soaking wet, dripping and cold, by the

very same water they " create " .

-geo-

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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> BobN

> Nisargadatta

> Friday, December 04, 2009 5:40 PM

> Re: The Situation with Consciosness

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> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

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> > > > > > P: The absolute exist in language. It's the wording of a concept.

> > > > > > Do you perceive any other absolute that is not a sensation, or

> > > > > > a concept?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > geo> Existence is just in language....cool.

> > > > > > The perceiver of an absolute...and the absolute, makes two of

> > > > > > them.

> > > > > > Fine.

> > > > >

> > > > > P: I didn't mention existence. If you think

> > > > > absolute and existence mean the same, your

> > > > > problem with semantics is worse than I thought.

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Absolute means essentially " ab-solute " , not in solution, not watered

> > > > down, " pure " -- without a second, if ya will.

> > > >

> > >

> > > As this is ostensibly Nis's list, let's let him have his input ;-):

> > >

> > > Questioner: Shapes and names are all of one and the same God?

> > >

> > > Maharaj: Again, it all depends on how you look at it. On the verbal

> > > level

> > > everything is relative. Absolutes should be experienced, not discussed.

> >

> > geo> The term " I " has several connotations, including one - the most

> > difficult and most obvious - that is immovable and absolute.

>

> even one connotation is one too many.

>

> not two.

>

> if needed...repeat this again and again.

>

> when " absolute " and " imovable " are imployed as qualifying terms..

>

> then that which is other than " absolute " ..

>

> othere than " imovable " ..

>

> are at once brought into consideration.

>

> thus it is that Truth is lost immediately.

>

> don't try and sound enlightened.

>

> " you " most certainly are not.

>

> .b b.b.

>

> AAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaahhhh........I thought I was

> -geo-

 

 

thinking is what your problem is.

 

you identify with it.

 

that's the first and foremost error.

 

and whatever it is that is thought..

 

thought is without Truth.

 

..b b.b.

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BobN

Nisargadatta

Friday, December 04, 2009 5:40 PM

Re: The Situation with Consciosness

 

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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> > > > > P: The absolute exist in language. It's the wording of a concept.

> > > > > Do you perceive any other absolute that is not a sensation, or

> > > > > a concept?

> > > > >

> > > > > geo> Existence is just in language....cool.

> > > > > The perceiver of an absolute...and the absolute, makes two of

> > > > > them.

> > > > > Fine.

> > > >

> > > > P: I didn't mention existence. If you think

> > > > absolute and existence mean the same, your

> > > > problem with semantics is worse than I thought.

> > > > >

> > >

> > > Absolute means essentially " ab-solute " , not in solution, not watered

> > > down, " pure " -- without a second, if ya will.

> > >

> >

> > As this is ostensibly Nis's list, let's let him have his input ;-):

> >

> > Questioner: Shapes and names are all of one and the same God?

> >

> > Maharaj: Again, it all depends on how you look at it. On the verbal

> > level

> > everything is relative. Absolutes should be experienced, not discussed.

>

> geo> The term " I " has several connotations, including one - the most

> difficult and most obvious - that is immovable and absolute.

 

even one connotation is one too many.

 

not two.

 

if needed...repeat this again and again.

 

when " absolute " and " imovable " are imployed as qualifying terms..

 

then that which is other than " absolute " ..

 

othere than " imovable " ..

 

are at once brought into consideration.

 

thus it is that Truth is lost immediately.

 

don't try and sound enlightened.

 

" you " most certainly are not.

 

..b b.b.

 

AAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaahhhh........I thought I was

-geo-

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Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

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> > -

> > BobN

> > Nisargadatta

> > Friday, December 04, 2009 5:40 PM

> > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > > > > > P: The absolute exist in language. It's the wording of a concept.

> > > > > > > Do you perceive any other absolute that is not a sensation, or

> > > > > > > a concept?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > geo> Existence is just in language....cool.

> > > > > > > The perceiver of an absolute...and the absolute, makes two of

> > > > > > > them.

> > > > > > > Fine.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > P: I didn't mention existence. If you think

> > > > > > absolute and existence mean the same, your

> > > > > > problem with semantics is worse than I thought.

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Absolute means essentially " ab-solute " , not in solution, not watered

> > > > > down, " pure " -- without a second, if ya will.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > As this is ostensibly Nis's list, let's let him have his input ;-):

> > > >

> > > > Questioner: Shapes and names are all of one and the same God?

> > > >

> > > > Maharaj: Again, it all depends on how you look at it. On the verbal

> > > > level

> > > > everything is relative. Absolutes should be experienced, not discussed.

> > >

> > > geo> The term " I " has several connotations, including one - the most

> > > difficult and most obvious - that is immovable and absolute.

> >

> > even one connotation is one too many.

> >

> > not two.

> >

> > if needed...repeat this again and again.

> >

> > when " absolute " and " imovable " are imployed as qualifying terms..

> >

> > then that which is other than " absolute " ..

> >

> > othere than " imovable " ..

> >

> > are at once brought into consideration.

> >

> > thus it is that Truth is lost immediately.

> >

> > don't try and sound enlightened.

> >

> > " you " most certainly are not.

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> > AAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaahhhh........I thought I was

> > -geo-

>

>

> thinking is what your problem is.

>

> you identify with it.

>

> that's the first and foremost error.

>

> and whatever it is that is thought..

>

> thought is without Truth.

>

> .b b.b.

>

 

 

 

True, at the moment of thought the thinker IS the thought,

however, there would be no *I* or *you* without it.

 

~A

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Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

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> >

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> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > BobN

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Friday, December 04, 2009 5:40 PM

> > > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > P: The absolute exist in language. It's the wording of a

concept.

> > > > > > > > Do you perceive any other absolute that is not a sensation, or

> > > > > > > > a concept?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > geo> Existence is just in language....cool.

> > > > > > > > The perceiver of an absolute...and the absolute, makes two of

> > > > > > > > them.

> > > > > > > > Fine.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > P: I didn't mention existence. If you think

> > > > > > > absolute and existence mean the same, your

> > > > > > > problem with semantics is worse than I thought.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Absolute means essentially " ab-solute " , not in solution, not watered

> > > > > > down, " pure " -- without a second, if ya will.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > As this is ostensibly Nis's list, let's let him have his input ;-):

> > > > >

> > > > > Questioner: Shapes and names are all of one and the same God?

> > > > >

> > > > > Maharaj: Again, it all depends on how you look at it. On the verbal

> > > > > level

> > > > > everything is relative. Absolutes should be experienced, not

discussed.

> > > >

> > > > geo> The term " I " has several connotations, including one - the most

> > > > difficult and most obvious - that is immovable and absolute.

> > >

> > > even one connotation is one too many.

> > >

> > > not two.

> > >

> > > if needed...repeat this again and again.

> > >

> > > when " absolute " and " imovable " are imployed as qualifying terms..

> > >

> > > then that which is other than " absolute " ..

> > >

> > > othere than " imovable " ..

> > >

> > > are at once brought into consideration.

> > >

> > > thus it is that Truth is lost immediately.

> > >

> > > don't try and sound enlightened.

> > >

> > > " you " most certainly are not.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > AAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaahhhh........I thought I was

> > > -geo-

> >

> >

> > thinking is what your problem is.

> >

> > you identify with it.

> >

> > that's the first and foremost error.

> >

> > and whatever it is that is thought..

> >

> > thought is without Truth.

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

>

>

>

> True, at the moment of thought the thinker IS the thought,

> however, there would be no *I* or *you* without it.

>

> ~A

 

 

it's best not to think about it.

 

than IT can just chill.

 

:-)

 

..b b.b.