The Situation with Consciosness

[Guest guest]

This is the situation, What Is has

only two positions: on, and off.

Consciousness is the on position,

the off position is the Unknown,

the unaware absolute. The on is

reality, the off is nothingness.

Those two are not separate, those

are the aspects of the One which

is as none.

 

Meditate on the above and the merging

point could appear shining like a sun.

 

Pete

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote:

>

> This is the situation, What Is has

> only two positions: on, and off.

> Consciousness is the on position,

> the off position is the Unknown,

> the unaware absolute. The on is

> reality, the off is nothingness.

> Those two are not separate, those

> are the aspects of the One which

> is as none.

>

> Meditate on the above and the merging

> point could appear shining like a sun.

>

> Pete

 

 

neither on nor off is the state of " hibernate " .

 

the old stand by: " standby " .

 

and don't screw this up by saying it's " on " standby..

 

or put it " in " hibernation mode " ...

 

or to disable " off " .

 

i mean..

 

who's to meditate?

 

if there's a sun shining..

 

or a darkness " seen " ..

 

there's a " someone-somewhat " smack dab in the middle... " in the way " .

 

that's no way to go..or to be..or to go mojo.

 

just another tabloid idea.

 

not that i'm saying that this is true.

 

that's like saying i don't believe in believing.

 

believing that there's no such thing as believing..

 

is just another over-belief.

 

and believing that one holds the truth..

 

(that there is no such thing as truth)..

 

can easily be countered with " is that true? " .

 

the only answer is no answer.

 

clamming up is the only openness there is.

 

i believe that's the truth.

 

and by now all can see how i'm a virtual paragon of this kinda thing.

 

i never say anything.

 

and i don't even know it.

 

this is not a misunderstanding.

 

meditate on the above and the merging point..

 

could appear shining like a sun.

 

:-)

 

now officially one of the gang..

 

..b b.b.

[Guest guest]

-

cerosoul

Nisargadatta

Tuesday, December 01, 2009 3:01 PM

The Situation with Consciosness

 

 

 

This is the situation, What Is has

only two positions: on, and off.

Consciousness is the on position,

the off position is the Unknown,

the unaware absolute. The on is

reality, the off is nothingness.

Those two are not separate, those

are the aspects of the One which

is as none.

 

Meditate on the above and the merging

point could appear shining like a sun.

 

Pete

 

What Is never moved. Upon the never moved, the never born appeared

consciousness that is nothing else but patterns filled with the unborn

awareness - the essence.

-geo-

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

>

> -

> cerosoul

> Nisargadatta

> Tuesday, December 01, 2009 3:01 PM

> The Situation with Consciosness

>

>

>

> This is the situation, What Is has

> only two positions: on, and off.

> Consciousness is the on position,

> the off position is the Unknown,

> the unaware absolute. The on is

> reality, the off is nothingness.

> Those two are not separate, those

> are the aspects of the One which

> is as none.

>

> Meditate on the above and the merging

> point could appear shining like a sun.

>

> Pete

>

> What Is never moved. Upon the never moved, the never born appeared

> consciousness that is nothing else but patterns filled with the unborn

> awareness - the essence.

> -geo-

 

P: How are appearances and patterns made without movement?

Learn how to discern spiritual gibberish.

>

[Guest guest]

-

cerosoul

Nisargadatta

Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:10 PM

Re: The Situation with Consciosness

 

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

>

> -

> cerosoul

> Nisargadatta

> Tuesday, December 01, 2009 3:01 PM

> The Situation with Consciosness

>

>

>

> This is the situation, What Is has

> only two positions: on, and off.

> Consciousness is the on position,

> the off position is the Unknown,

> the unaware absolute. The on is

> reality, the off is nothingness.

> Those two are not separate, those

> are the aspects of the One which

> is as none.

>

> Meditate on the above and the merging

> point could appear shining like a sun.

>

> Pete

>

> What Is never moved. Upon the never moved, the never born appeared

> consciousness that is nothing else but patterns filled with the unborn

> awareness - the essence.

> -geo-

 

P: How are appearances and patterns made without movement?

Learn how to discern spiritual gibberish.

 

geo> First tell me what " apiritual " is.

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

>

> -

> cerosoul

> Nisargadatta

> Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:10 PM

> Re: The Situation with Consciosness

>

>

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > -

> > cerosoul

> > Nisargadatta

> > Tuesday, December 01, 2009 3:01 PM

> > The Situation with Consciosness

> >

> >

> >

> > This is the situation, What Is has

> > only two positions: on, and off.

> > Consciousness is the on position,

> > the off position is the Unknown,

> > the unaware absolute. The on is

> > reality, the off is nothingness.

> > Those two are not separate, those

> > are the aspects of the One which

> > is as none.

> >

> > Meditate on the above and the merging

> > point could appear shining like a sun.

> >

> > Pete

> >

> > What Is never moved. Upon the never moved, the never born appeared

> > consciousness that is nothing else but patterns filled with the unborn

> > awareness - the essence.

> > -geo-

>

> P: How are appearances and patterns made without movement?

> Learn how to discern spiritual gibberish.

>

> geo> First tell me what " apiritual " is.

 

P: What you write about

>

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> >

> > This is the situation, What Is has

> > only two positions: on, and off.

> > Consciousness is the on position,

> > the off position is the Unknown,

> > the unaware absolute. The on is

> > reality, the off is nothingness.

> > Those two are not separate, those

> > are the aspects of the One which

> > is as none.

> >

> > Meditate on the above and the merging

> > point could appear shining like a sun.

> >

> > Pete

>

>

> neither on nor off is the state of " hibernate " .

>

> the old stand by: " standby " .

>

> and don't screw this up by saying it's " on " standby..

>

> or put it " in " hibernation mode " ...

>

> or to disable " off " .

>

> i mean..

>

> who's to meditate?

>

> if there's a sun shining..

>

> or a darkness " seen " ..

>

> there's a " someone-somewhat " smack dab in the middle... " in the way " .

>

> that's no way to go..or to be..or to go mojo.

>

> just another tabloid idea.

>

> not that i'm saying that this is true.

>

> that's like saying i don't believe in believing.

>

> believing that there's no such thing as believing..

>

> is just another over-belief.

>

> and believing that one holds the truth..

>

> (that there is no such thing as truth)..

>

> can easily be countered with " is that true? " .

>

> the only answer is no answer.

>

> clamming up is the only openness there is.

>

> i believe that's the truth.

>

> and by now all can see how i'm a virtual paragon of this kinda thing.

>

> i never say anything.

>

> and i don't even know it.

>

> this is not a misunderstanding.

>

> meditate on the above and the merging point..

>

> could appear shining like a sun.

>

> :-)

>

> now officially one of the gang..

>

> .b b.b.

 

P: You're still on moderation. I can

tell because your posts appear in clusters

approved by Hur within a minute or two. So

what does it mean, now officially one of the gang?

>

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote:

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> > >

> > > This is the situation, What Is has

> > > only two positions: on, and off.

> > > Consciousness is the on position,

> > > the off position is the Unknown,

> > > the unaware absolute. The on is

> > > reality, the off is nothingness.

> > > Those two are not separate, those

> > > are the aspects of the One which

> > > is as none.

> > >

> > > Meditate on the above and the merging

> > > point could appear shining like a sun.

> > >

> > > Pete

> >

> >

> > neither on nor off is the state of " hibernate " .

> >

> > the old stand by: " standby " .

> >

> > and don't screw this up by saying it's " on " standby..

> >

> > or put it " in " hibernation mode " ...

> >

> > or to disable " off " .

> >

> > i mean..

> >

> > who's to meditate?

> >

> > if there's a sun shining..

> >

> > or a darkness " seen " ..

> >

> > there's a " someone-somewhat " smack dab in the middle... " in the way " .

> >

> > that's no way to go..or to be..or to go mojo.

> >

> > just another tabloid idea.

> >

> > not that i'm saying that this is true.

> >

> > that's like saying i don't believe in believing.

> >

> > believing that there's no such thing as believing..

> >

> > is just another over-belief.

> >

> > and believing that one holds the truth..

> >

> > (that there is no such thing as truth)..

> >

> > can easily be countered with " is that true? " .

> >

> > the only answer is no answer.

> >

> > clamming up is the only openness there is.

> >

> > i believe that's the truth.

> >

> > and by now all can see how i'm a virtual paragon of this kinda thing.

> >

> > i never say anything.

> >

> > and i don't even know it.

> >

> > this is not a misunderstanding.

> >

> > meditate on the above and the merging point..

> >

> > could appear shining like a sun.

> >

> > :-)

> >

> > now officially one of the gang..

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> P: You're still on moderation. I can

> tell because your posts appear in clusters

> approved by Hur within a minute or two. So

> what does it mean, now officially one of the gang?

 

 

 

 

 

oh by gosh by golly you're a whiz of a detective Peter.

 

and this idea of moderation and membership states and such..

 

is so very important for you to be " in the know about " .

 

LOL!

 

as i recall you wear with as badge of honor:

 

the fact that you have never been banned or moderated.

 

i recall your boasting about same.

 

LOL!

 

whatever makes your life seem worthwhile i guess.

 

well Pete yes i'm on moderation.

 

damn good thing too.

 

but it's not " within a minute or two " that Hur doth give approval.

 

the posts are written at the time of the posts..

 

to which they are in response to are posted.

 

Hur lets those through which he lets through..

 

when and only when he has the time to read the list.

 

as to now officially being " one of the gang " ..

 

(i knew this one would eat at you)..

 

the answer is..

 

(drumroll)..

 

 

 

 

 

(N.B.)

 

[sorry this bit of Bob's reply is being cutout..

 

....a moderation of Bob himself..

 

to save Pete some grief]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

....and that's the entire story.

 

it's better you don't know.

 

now you can get some sleep old chum.

 

remember..it's not what you know that causes trouble Pete.

 

but it's rather that which you think you do know..

 

but really don't know..

 

that causes all all your problems.

 

you have proven this time and again.

 

think of me in this case as your Messiah of message understandings.

 

:-)

 

..b b.b.

[Guest guest]

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cerosoul

Nisargadatta

Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:41 PM

Re: The Situation with Consciosness

 

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

>

> -

> cerosoul

> Nisargadatta

> Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:10 PM

> Re: The Situation with Consciosness

>

>

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > -

> > cerosoul

> > Nisargadatta

> > Tuesday, December 01, 2009 3:01 PM

> > The Situation with Consciosness

> >

> >

> >

> > This is the situation, What Is has

> > only two positions: on, and off.

> > Consciousness is the on position,

> > the off position is the Unknown,

> > the unaware absolute. The on is

> > reality, the off is nothingness.

> > Those two are not separate, those

> > are the aspects of the One which

> > is as none.

> >

> > Meditate on the above and the merging

> > point could appear shining like a sun.

> >

> > Pete

> >

> > What Is never moved. Upon the never moved, the never born appeared

> > consciousness that is nothing else but patterns filled with the unborn

> > awareness - the essence.

> > -geo-

>

> P: How are appearances and patterns made without movement?

> Learn how to discern spiritual gibberish.

>

> geo> First tell me what " spiritual " is.

 

P: What you write about

 

geo>You write about what?

[Guest guest]

> > >

> > > What Is never moved. Upon the never moved, the never born appeared

> > > consciousness that is nothing else but patterns filled with the unborn

> > > awareness - the essence.

> > > -geo-

> >

> > P: How are appearances and patterns made without movement?

> > Learn how to discern spiritual gibberish.

> >

> > geo> First tell me what " spiritual " is.

>

> P: What you write about

>

> geo>You write about what?

 

P: I write about sensations and perceptions,

I don't project that words such as Awareness,

Absolute, etc are entities outside the brain.

Anything outside perception is unknown. To talk

about the unknown as if it were known is spirituality.

>

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

>

> -

> geo

> Nisargadatta

> Wednesday, December 02, 2009 2:35 PM

> Re: Re: The Situation with Consciosness

>

>

>

>

> -

> cerosoul

> Nisargadatta

> Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:13 PM

> Re: The Situation with Consciosness

>

> > > >

> > > > What Is never moved. Upon the never moved, the never born appeared

> > > > consciousness that is nothing else but patterns filled with the unborn

> > > > awareness - the essence.

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > > P: How are appearances and patterns made without movement?

> > > Learn how to discern spiritual gibberish.

> > >

> > > geo> First tell me what " spiritual " is.

> >

> > P: What you write about

> >

> > geo>You write about what?

>

> P: I write about sensations and perceptions,

> I don't project that words such as Awareness,

> Absolute, etc are entities outside the brain.

> Anything outside perception is unknown. To talk

> about the unknown as if it were known is spirituality.

>

> geo> And a " brain " that is supposed to be where the world is assembled is

> assembled where in order to be a " known " ? So your talk is all about a

> contradiction that you dont see.

> So your taking the brain, something unknown, as if something known... is

> ignorance.

 

P: If your brain is unknown, meet your brain. Read

and learn. The brain can be known, but To talk

about the unknown as if it were known is spirituality. So

spiritual talk is ignorance.

[Guest guest]

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cerosoul

Nisargadatta

Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:13 PM

Re: The Situation with Consciosness

 

 

 

 

> > >

> > > What Is never moved. Upon the never moved, the never born appeared

> > > consciousness that is nothing else but patterns filled with the unborn

> > > awareness - the essence.

> > > -geo-

> >

> > P: How are appearances and patterns made without movement?

> > Learn how to discern spiritual gibberish.

> >

> > geo> First tell me what " spiritual " is.

>

> P: What you write about

>

> geo>You write about what?

 

P: I write about sensations and perceptions,

I don't project that words such as Awareness,

Absolute, etc are entities outside the brain.

Anything outside perception is unknown. To talk

about the unknown as if it were known is spirituality.

 

geo> And a " brain " that is supposed to be where the world is assembled is

assembled where in order to be a " known " ? So your talk is all about a

contradiction that you dont see.

[Guest guest]

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geo

Nisargadatta

Wednesday, December 02, 2009 2:35 PM

Re: Re: The Situation with Consciosness

 

 

 

 

-

cerosoul

Nisargadatta

Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:13 PM

Re: The Situation with Consciosness

 

> > >

> > > What Is never moved. Upon the never moved, the never born appeared

> > > consciousness that is nothing else but patterns filled with the unborn

> > > awareness - the essence.

> > > -geo-

> >

> > P: How are appearances and patterns made without movement?

> > Learn how to discern spiritual gibberish.

> >

> > geo> First tell me what " spiritual " is.

>

> P: What you write about

>

> geo>You write about what?

 

P: I write about sensations and perceptions,

I don't project that words such as Awareness,

Absolute, etc are entities outside the brain.

Anything outside perception is unknown. To talk

about the unknown as if it were known is spirituality.

 

geo> And a " brain " that is supposed to be where the world is assembled is

assembled where in order to be a " known " ? So your talk is all about a

contradiction that you dont see.

So your taking the brain, something unknown, as if something known... is

ignorance.

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

>

 

> P: If your brain is unknown, meet your brain. Read

> and learn. The brain can be known, but To talk

> about the unknown as if it were known is spirituality. So

> spiritual talk is ignorance.

>

> geo> So reading, the brain will be known.... OK

 

The brain is obviously just a concept about a brain. Don't waste any time, Geo

;-).

[Guest guest]

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cerosoul

Nisargadatta

Wednesday, December 02, 2009 2:12 PM

Re: The Situation with Consciosness

 

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

>

> -

> geo

> Nisargadatta

> Wednesday, December 02, 2009 2:35 PM

> Re: Re: The Situation with Consciosness

>

>

>

>

> -

> cerosoul

> Nisargadatta

> Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:13 PM

> Re: The Situation with Consciosness

>

> > > >

> > > > What Is never moved. Upon the never moved, the never born appeared

> > > > consciousness that is nothing else but patterns filled with the

> > > > unborn

> > > > awareness - the essence.

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > > P: How are appearances and patterns made without movement?

> > > Learn how to discern spiritual gibberish.

> > >

> > > geo> First tell me what " spiritual " is.

> >

> > P: What you write about

> >

> > geo>You write about what?

>

> P: I write about sensations and perceptions,

> I don't project that words such as Awareness,

> Absolute, etc are entities outside the brain.

> Anything outside perception is unknown. To talk

> about the unknown as if it were known is spirituality.

>

> geo> And a " brain " that is supposed to be where the world is assembled is

> assembled where in order to be a " known " ? So your talk is all about a

> contradiction that you dont see.

> So your taking the brain, something unknown, as if something known... is

> ignorance.

 

P: If your brain is unknown, meet your brain. Read

and learn. The brain can be known, but To talk

about the unknown as if it were known is spirituality. So

spiritual talk is ignorance.

 

geo> So reading, the brain will be known.... OK

[Guest guest]

> >

> > P: You're still on moderation. I can

> > tell because your posts appear in clusters

> > approved by Hur within a minute or two. So

> > what does it mean, now officially one of the gang?

>

>

>

>

>

> oh by gosh by golly you're a whiz of a detective Peter.

>

> and this idea of moderation and membership states and such..

>

> is so very important for you to be " in the know about " .

>

> LOL!

>

> as i recall you wear with as badge of honor:

>

> the fact that you have never been banned or moderated.

>

> i recall your boasting about same.

>

> LOL!

>

> whatever makes your life seem worthwhile i guess.

>

> well Pete yes i'm on moderation.

>

> damn good thing too.

>

> but it's not " within a minute or two " that Hur doth give approval.

>

> the posts are written at the time of the posts..

>

> to which they are in response to are posted.

>

> Hur lets those through which he lets through..

>

> when and only when he has the time to read the list.

>

> as to now officially being " one of the gang " ..

>

> (i knew this one would eat at you)..

>

> the answer is..

>

> (drumroll)..

>

>

>

>

>

> (N.B.)

>

> [sorry this bit of Bob's reply is being cutout..

>

> ...a moderation of Bob himself..

>

> to save Pete some grief]

>

...and that's the entire story.

>

> it's better you don't know.

>

> now you can get some sleep old chum.

>

> remember..it's not what you know that causes trouble Pete.

>

> but it's rather that which you think you do know..

>

> but really don't know..

>

> that causes all all your problems.

>

> you have proven this time and again.

>

> think of me in this case as your Messiah of message understandings.

>

> :-)

>

> .b b.b.

 

P: Thanks, Bob, for your kind reply.

I declare you officially tamed, and,

yes, one of the gang. Don't forget

our sign: The middle finger extended

upward but bended like a hook.

>

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

>

> -

> cerosoul

> Nisargadatta

> Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:13 PM

> Re: The Situation with Consciosness

>

>

>

>

> > > >

> > > > What Is never moved. Upon the never moved, the never born appeared

> > > > consciousness that is nothing else but patterns filled with the unborn

> > > > awareness - the essence.

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > > P: How are appearances and patterns made without movement?

> > > Learn how to discern spiritual gibberish.

> > >

> > > geo> First tell me what " spiritual " is.

> >

> > P: What you write about

> >

> > geo>You write about what?

>

> P: I write about sensations and perceptions,

> I don't project that words such as Awareness,

> Absolute, etc are entities outside the brain.

> Anything outside perception is unknown. To talk

> about the unknown as if it were known is spirituality.

>

> geo> And a " brain " that is supposed to be where the world is assembled is

> assembled where in order to be a " known " ? So your talk is all about a

> contradiction that you dont see.

 

 

Yes.

 

In other words, " brain " is a constructed object and cannot be used as any kind

of final explanation or understanding for how or where there are constructed

objects.

 

- Dan -

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote:

>

>

> > >

> > > P: You're still on moderation. I can

> > > tell because your posts appear in clusters

> > > approved by Hur within a minute or two. So

> > > what does it mean, now officially one of the gang?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > oh by gosh by golly you're a whiz of a detective Peter.

> >

> > and this idea of moderation and membership states and such..

> >

> > is so very important for you to be " in the know about " .

> >

> > LOL!

> >

> > as i recall you wear with as badge of honor:

> >

> > the fact that you have never been banned or moderated.

> >

> > i recall your boasting about same.

> >

> > LOL!

> >

> > whatever makes your life seem worthwhile i guess.

> >

> > well Pete yes i'm on moderation.

> >

> > damn good thing too.

> >

> > but it's not " within a minute or two " that Hur doth give approval.

> >

> > the posts are written at the time of the posts..

> >

> > to which they are in response to are posted.

> >

> > Hur lets those through which he lets through..

> >

> > when and only when he has the time to read the list.

> >

> > as to now officially being " one of the gang " ..

> >

> > (i knew this one would eat at you)..

> >

> > the answer is..

> >

> > (drumroll)..

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > (N.B.)

> >

> > [sorry this bit of Bob's reply is being cutout..

> >

> > ...a moderation of Bob himself..

> >

> > to save Pete some grief]

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ...and that's the entire story.

> >

> > it's better you don't know.

> >

> > now you can get some sleep old chum.

> >

> > remember..it's not what you know that causes trouble Pete.

> >

> > but it's rather that which you think you do know..

> >

> > but really don't know..

> >

> > that causes all all your problems.

> >

> > you have proven this time and again.

> >

> > think of me in this case as your Messiah of message understandings.

> >

> > :-)

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> P: Thanks, Bob, for your kind reply.

> I declare you officially tamed, and,

> yes, one of the gang. Don't forget

> our sign: The middle finger extended

> upward but bended like a hook.

 

 

alrighty then.

 

but it sort of puts in mind..

 

a mental picture of Freddy Krueger..

 

making a come hither gesture.

 

some gang!

 

..b b.b.

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > -

> > cerosoul

> > Nisargadatta

> > Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:13 PM

> > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > > >

> > > > > What Is never moved. Upon the never moved, the never born appeared

> > > > > consciousness that is nothing else but patterns filled with the unborn

> > > > > awareness - the essence.

> > > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > > > P: How are appearances and patterns made without movement?

> > > > Learn how to discern spiritual gibberish.

> > > >

> > > > geo> First tell me what " spiritual " is.

> > >

> > > P: What you write about

> > >

> > > geo>You write about what?

> >

> > P: I write about sensations and perceptions,

> > I don't project that words such as Awareness,

> > Absolute, etc are entities outside the brain.

> > Anything outside perception is unknown. To talk

> > about the unknown as if it were known is spirituality.

> >

> > geo> And a " brain " that is supposed to be where the world is assembled is

> > assembled where in order to be a " known " ? So your talk is all about a

> > contradiction that you dont see.

>

>

> Yes.

>

> In other words, " brain " is a constructed object and cannot be used as any kind

of final explanation or understanding for how or where there are constructed

objects.

>

> - Dan -

 

P: Explanation? Yes. Final? No. Do you have

any final explanation for anything? Do you

really know what you mean by cnstrctd object

and what is not cnstrctd?

>

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote:

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > cerosoul

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:13 PM

> > > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What Is never moved. Upon the never moved, the never born appeared

> > > > > > consciousness that is nothing else but patterns filled with the

unborn

> > > > > > awareness - the essence.

> > > > > > -geo-

> > > > >

> > > > > P: How are appearances and patterns made without movement?

> > > > > Learn how to discern spiritual gibberish.

> > > > >

> > > > > geo> First tell me what " spiritual " is.

> > > >

> > > > P: What you write about

> > > >

> > > > geo>You write about what?

> > >

> > > P: I write about sensations and perceptions,

> > > I don't project that words such as Awareness,

> > > Absolute, etc are entities outside the brain.

> > > Anything outside perception is unknown. To talk

> > > about the unknown as if it were known is spirituality.

> > >

> > > geo> And a " brain " that is supposed to be where the world is assembled is

> > > assembled where in order to be a " known " ? So your talk is all about a

> > > contradiction that you dont see.

> >

> >

> > Yes.

> >

> > In other words, " brain " is a constructed object and cannot be used as any

kind of final explanation or understanding for how or where there are

constructed objects.

> >

> > - Dan -

>

> P: Explanation? Yes. Final? No. Do you have

> any final explanation for anything? Do you

> really know what you mean by cnstrctd object

> and what is not cnstrctd?

 

Yes.

 

And it doesn't depend on, nor is it, a verbalizable explanation.

 

- D -

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > cerosoul

> > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:13 PM

> > > > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What Is never moved. Upon the never moved, the never born appeared

> > > > > > > consciousness that is nothing else but patterns filled with the

unborn

> > > > > > > awareness - the essence.

> > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > P: How are appearances and patterns made without movement?

> > > > > > Learn how to discern spiritual gibberish.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > geo> First tell me what " spiritual " is.

> > > > >

> > > > > P: What you write about

> > > > >

> > > > > geo>You write about what?

> > > >

> > > > P: I write about sensations and perceptions,

> > > > I don't project that words such as Awareness,

> > > > Absolute, etc are entities outside the brain.

> > > > Anything outside perception is unknown. To talk

> > > > about the unknown as if it were known is spirituality.

> > > >

> > > > geo> And a " brain " that is supposed to be where the world is assembled

is

> > > > assembled where in order to be a " known " ? So your talk is all about a

> > > > contradiction that you dont see.

> > >

> > >

> > > Yes.

> > >

> > > In other words, " brain " is a constructed object and cannot be used as any

kind of final explanation or understanding for how or where there are

constructed objects.

> > >

> > > - Dan -

> >

> > P: Explanation? Yes. Final? No. Do you have

> > any final explanation for anything? Do you

> > really know what you mean by cnstrctd object

> > and what is not cnstrctd?

>

> Yes.

>

> And it doesn't depend on, nor is it, a verbalizable explanation.

>

> - D -

 

P: OOOOOOH! Mysterious! )

>

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote:

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > cerosoul

> > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:13 PM

> > > > > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What Is never moved. Upon the never moved, the never born

appeared

> > > > > > > > consciousness that is nothing else but patterns filled with the

unborn

> > > > > > > > awareness - the essence.

> > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > P: How are appearances and patterns made without movement?

> > > > > > > Learn how to discern spiritual gibberish.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > geo> First tell me what " spiritual " is.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > P: What you write about

> > > > > >

> > > > > > geo>You write about what?

> > > > >

> > > > > P: I write about sensations and perceptions,

> > > > > I don't project that words such as Awareness,

> > > > > Absolute, etc are entities outside the brain.

> > > > > Anything outside perception is unknown. To talk

> > > > > about the unknown as if it were known is spirituality.

> > > > >

> > > > > geo> And a " brain " that is supposed to be where the world is

assembled is

> > > > > assembled where in order to be a " known " ? So your talk is all about a

> > > > > contradiction that you dont see.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Yes.

> > > >

> > > > In other words, " brain " is a constructed object and cannot be used as

any kind of final explanation or understanding for how or where there are

constructed objects.

> > > >

> > > > - Dan -

> > >

> > > P: Explanation? Yes. Final? No. Do you have

> > > any final explanation for anything? Do you

> > > really know what you mean by cnstrctd object

> > > and what is not cnstrctd?

> >

> > Yes.

> >

> > And it doesn't depend on, nor is it, a verbalizable explanation.

> >

> > - D -

>

> P: OOOOOOH! Mysterious! )

 

D: Just a fact.

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > cerosoul

> > > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > > Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:13 PM

> > > > > > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What Is never moved. Upon the never moved, the never born

appeared

> > > > > > > > > consciousness that is nothing else but patterns filled with

the unborn

> > > > > > > > > awareness - the essence.

> > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > P: How are appearances and patterns made without movement?

> > > > > > > > Learn how to discern spiritual gibberish.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > geo> First tell me what " spiritual " is.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > P: What you write about

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > geo>You write about what?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > P: I write about sensations and perceptions,

> > > > > > I don't project that words such as Awareness,

> > > > > > Absolute, etc are entities outside the brain.

> > > > > > Anything outside perception is unknown. To talk

> > > > > > about the unknown as if it were known is spirituality.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > geo> And a " brain " that is supposed to be where the world is

assembled is

> > > > > > assembled where in order to be a " known " ? So your talk is all about

a

> > > > > > contradiction that you dont see.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes.

> > > > >

> > > > > In other words, " brain " is a constructed object and cannot be used as

any kind of final explanation or understanding for how or where there are

constructed objects.

> > > > >

> > > > > - Dan -

> > > >

> > > > P: Explanation? Yes. Final? No. Do you have

> > > > any final explanation for anything? Do you

> > > > really know what you mean by cnstrctd object

> > > > and what is not cnstrctd?

> > >

> > > Yes.

> > >

> > > And it doesn't depend on, nor is it, a verbalizable explanation.

> > >

> > > - D -

> >

> > P: OOOOOOH! Mysterious! )

>

> D: Just a fact.

 

 

 

a fact that you are aware of?

 

that is to say..

 

you are aware of it as a fact then?

 

careful now..

 

don't trip yourself up now.

 

LOL!

 

..b b.b.

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote:

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > cerosoul

> > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:13 PM

> > > > > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What Is never moved. Upon the never moved, the never born

appeared

> > > > > > > > consciousness that is nothing else but patterns filled with the

unborn

> > > > > > > > awareness - the essence.

> > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > P: How are appearances and patterns made without movement?

> > > > > > > Learn how to discern spiritual gibberish.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > geo> First tell me what " spiritual " is.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > P: What you write about

> > > > > >

> > > > > > geo>You write about what?

> > > > >

> > > > > P: I write about sensations and perceptions,

> > > > > I don't project that words such as Awareness,

> > > > > Absolute, etc are entities outside the brain.

> > > > > Anything outside perception is unknown. To talk

> > > > > about the unknown as if it were known is spirituality.

> > > > >

> > > > > geo> And a " brain " that is supposed to be where the world is

assembled is

> > > > > assembled where in order to be a " known " ? So your talk is all about a

> > > > > contradiction that you dont see.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Yes.

> > > >

> > > > In other words, " brain " is a constructed object and cannot be used as

any kind of final explanation or understanding for how or where there are

constructed objects.

> > > >

> > > > - Dan -

> > >

> > > P: Explanation? Yes. Final? No. Do you have

> > > any final explanation for anything? Do you

> > > really know what you mean by cnstrctd object

> > > and what is not cnstrctd?

> >

> > Yes.

> >

> > And it doesn't depend on, nor is it, a verbalizable explanation.

> >

> > - D -

>

> P: OOOOOOH! Mysterious! )

> >

 

Let the Silence in, brain-man, and find out for yourself ;-). All that can be

offered here are constructed objects called words, lego-ed together into

constructed objects called sentences. What isn't constructed is obvious, if one

isn't clinging to constructs.

[Guest guest]

-

BobN

Nisargadatta

Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:44 PM

Re: The Situation with Consciosness

 

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > cerosoul

> > > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > > Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:13 PM

> > > > > > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What Is never moved. Upon the never moved, the never born

> > > > > > > > > appeared

> > > > > > > > > consciousness that is nothing else but patterns filled

> > > > > > > > > with the unborn

> > > > > > > > > awareness - the essence.

> > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > P: How are appearances and patterns made without movement?

> > > > > > > > Learn how to discern spiritual gibberish.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > geo> First tell me what " spiritual " is.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > P: What you write about

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > geo>You write about what?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > P: I write about sensations and perceptions,

> > > > > > I don't project that words such as Awareness,

> > > > > > Absolute, etc are entities outside the brain.

> > > > > > Anything outside perception is unknown. To talk

> > > > > > about the unknown as if it were known is spirituality.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > geo> And a " brain " that is supposed to be where the world is

> > > > > > assembled is

> > > > > > assembled where in order to be a " known " ? So your talk is all

> > > > > > about a

> > > > > > contradiction that you dont see.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes.

> > > > >

> > > > > In other words, " brain " is a constructed object and cannot be used

> > > > > as any kind of final explanation or understanding for how or where

> > > > > there are constructed objects.

> > > > >

> > > > > - Dan -

> > > >

> > > > P: Explanation? Yes. Final? No. Do you have

> > > > any final explanation for anything? Do you

> > > > really know what you mean by cnstrctd object

> > > > and what is not cnstrctd?

> > >

> > > Yes.

> > >

> > > And it doesn't depend on, nor is it, a verbalizable explanation.

> > >

> > > - D -

> >

> > P: OOOOOOH! Mysterious! )

>

> D: Just a fact.

 

a fact that you are aware of?

 

that is to say..

 

you are aware of it as a fact then?

 

careful now..

 

don't trip yourself up now.

 

LOL!

 

..b b.b.

 

You are not the world, consciousness, the manifest. Your real nature is that

which upon those where born. Call this realization what the f...k you like.

Pete talks of some unknown as if it was not himself he was talking about -

which means a conceptual unknown.

-geo-