The Situation with Consciosness

December 3, 2009

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> BobN

> Nisargadatta

> Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:44 PM

> Re: The Situation with Consciosness

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > cerosoul

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > > > Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:13 PM

> > > > > > > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > What Is never moved. Upon the never moved, the never born

> > > > > > > > > > appeared

> > > > > > > > > > consciousness that is nothing else but patterns filled

> > > > > > > > > > with the unborn

> > > > > > > > > > awareness - the essence.

> > > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > P: How are appearances and patterns made without movement?

> > > > > > > > > Learn how to discern spiritual gibberish.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > geo> First tell me what " spiritual " is.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > P: What you write about

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > geo>You write about what?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > P: I write about sensations and perceptions,

> > > > > > > I don't project that words such as Awareness,

> > > > > > > Absolute, etc are entities outside the brain.

> > > > > > > Anything outside perception is unknown. To talk

> > > > > > > about the unknown as if it were known is spirituality.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > geo> And a " brain " that is supposed to be where the world is

> > > > > > > assembled is

> > > > > > > assembled where in order to be a " known " ? So your talk is all

> > > > > > > about a

> > > > > > > contradiction that you dont see.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yes.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In other words, " brain " is a constructed object and cannot be used

> > > > > > as any kind of final explanation or understanding for how or where

> > > > > > there are constructed objects.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - Dan -

> > > > >

> > > > > P: Explanation? Yes. Final? No. Do you have

> > > > > any final explanation for anything? Do you

> > > > > really know what you mean by cnstrctd object

> > > > > and what is not cnstrctd?

> > > >

> > > > Yes.

> > > >

> > > > And it doesn't depend on, nor is it, a verbalizable explanation.

> > > >

> > > > - D -

> > >

> > > P: OOOOOOH! Mysterious! )

> >

> > D: Just a fact.

>

> a fact that you are aware of?

>

> that is to say..

>

> you are aware of it as a fact then?

>

> careful now..

>

> don't trip yourself up now.

>

> LOL!

>

> .b b.b.

>

> You are not the world, consciousness, the manifest. Your real nature is that

> which upon those where born. Call this realization what the f...k you like.

> Pete talks of some unknown as if it was not himself he was talking about -

> which means a conceptual unknown.

> -geo-

now now geo settle down.

i don't know what the hell you're trying to say.

what you've written sounds like gobbledygook.

you're no ernest hemingway.

..b b.b.

December 3, 2009

-

BobN

Nisargadatta

Thursday, December 03, 2009 10:12 AM

Re: The Situation with Consciosness

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> BobN

> Nisargadatta

> Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:44 PM

> Re: The Situation with Consciosness

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > cerosoul

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > > > Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:13 PM

> > > > > > > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > What Is never moved. Upon the never moved, the never

> > > > > > > > > > born

> > > > > > > > > > appeared

> > > > > > > > > > consciousness that is nothing else but patterns filled

> > > > > > > > > > with the unborn

> > > > > > > > > > awareness - the essence.

> > > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > P: How are appearances and patterns made without movement?

> > > > > > > > > Learn how to discern spiritual gibberish.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > geo> First tell me what " spiritual " is.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > P: What you write about

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > geo>You write about what?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > P: I write about sensations and perceptions,

> > > > > > > I don't project that words such as Awareness,

> > > > > > > Absolute, etc are entities outside the brain.

> > > > > > > Anything outside perception is unknown. To talk

> > > > > > > about the unknown as if it were known is spirituality.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > geo> And a " brain " that is supposed to be where the world is

> > > > > > > assembled is

> > > > > > > assembled where in order to be a " known " ? So your talk is all

> > > > > > > about a

> > > > > > > contradiction that you dont see.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yes.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In other words, " brain " is a constructed object and cannot be

> > > > > > used

> > > > > > as any kind of final explanation or understanding for how or

> > > > > > where

> > > > > > there are constructed objects.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - Dan -

> > > > >

> > > > > P: Explanation? Yes. Final? No. Do you have

> > > > > any final explanation for anything? Do you

> > > > > really know what you mean by cnstrctd object

> > > > > and what is not cnstrctd?

> > > >

> > > > Yes.

> > > >

> > > > And it doesn't depend on, nor is it, a verbalizable explanation.

> > > >

> > > > - D -

> > >

> > > P: OOOOOOH! Mysterious! )

> >

> > D: Just a fact.

>

> a fact that you are aware of?

>

> that is to say..

>

> you are aware of it as a fact then?

>

> careful now..

>

> don't trip yourself up now.

>

> LOL!

>

> .b b.b.

>

> You are not the world, consciousness, the manifest. Your real nature is

> that

> which upon those where born. Call this realization what the f...k you

> like.

> Pete talks of some unknown as if it was not himself he was talking about -

> which means a conceptual unknown.

> -geo-

now now geo settle down.

i don't know what the hell you're trying to say.

what you've written sounds like gobbledygook.

you're no ernest hemingway.

..b b.b.

You don't understand.

I have two aspects.

One is moving, changeable, is born and dies.

It is manifested, timebound, in space...

The other never moves, it is non-manifested, it is unborn

Timeless, non-definable-dimension...

The former is enormous but just a small part of me...

It is empty of any self or itself...

The later is my real nature, the essence of all there is.

-geo-

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December 3, 2009

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> BobN

> Nisargadatta

> Thursday, December 03, 2009 10:12 AM

> Re: The Situation with Consciosness

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > BobN

> > Nisargadatta

> > Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:44 PM

> > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > > cerosoul

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:13 PM

> > > > > > > > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > What Is never moved. Upon the never moved, the never

> > > > > > > > > > > born

> > > > > > > > > > > appeared

> > > > > > > > > > > consciousness that is nothing else but patterns filled

> > > > > > > > > > > with the unborn

> > > > > > > > > > > awareness - the essence.

> > > > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > P: How are appearances and patterns made without movement?

> > > > > > > > > > Learn how to discern spiritual gibberish.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > geo> First tell me what " spiritual " is.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > P: What you write about

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > geo>You write about what?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > P: I write about sensations and perceptions,

> > > > > > > > I don't project that words such as Awareness,

> > > > > > > > Absolute, etc are entities outside the brain.

> > > > > > > > Anything outside perception is unknown. To talk

> > > > > > > > about the unknown as if it were known is spirituality.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > geo> And a " brain " that is supposed to be where the world is

> > > > > > > > assembled is

> > > > > > > > assembled where in order to be a " known " ? So your talk is all

> > > > > > > > about a

> > > > > > > > contradiction that you dont see.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yes.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In other words, " brain " is a constructed object and cannot be

> > > > > > > used

> > > > > > > as any kind of final explanation or understanding for how or

> > > > > > > where

> > > > > > > there are constructed objects.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > - Dan -

> > > > > >

> > > > > > P: Explanation? Yes. Final? No. Do you have

> > > > > > any final explanation for anything? Do you

> > > > > > really know what you mean by cnstrctd object

> > > > > > and what is not cnstrctd?

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes.

> > > > >

> > > > > And it doesn't depend on, nor is it, a verbalizable explanation.

> > > > >

> > > > > - D -

> > > >

> > > > P: OOOOOOH! Mysterious! )

> > >

> > > D: Just a fact.

> >

> > a fact that you are aware of?

> >

> > that is to say..

> >

> > you are aware of it as a fact then?

> >

> > careful now..

> >

> > don't trip yourself up now.

> >

> > LOL!

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> > You are not the world, consciousness, the manifest. Your real nature is

> > that

> > which upon those where born. Call this realization what the f...k you

> > like.

> > Pete talks of some unknown as if it was not himself he was talking about -

> > which means a conceptual unknown.

> > -geo-

>

> now now geo settle down.

>

> i don't know what the hell you're trying to say.

>

> what you've written sounds like gobbledygook.

>

> you're no ernest hemingway.

>

> .b b.b.

>

> You don't understand.

>

> I have two aspects.

> One is moving, changeable, is born and dies.

> It is manifested, timebound, in space...

> The other never moves, it is non-manifested, it is unborn

> Timeless, non-definable-dimension...

> The former is enormous but just a small part of me...

> It is empty of any self or itself...

> The later is my real nature, the essence of all there is.

> -geo-

it's quite understood what you're saying.

it is wrong.

" you " do not have ANY aspects.

to suggest that there are two aspects..

is completely in error.

it's like Zoroastrianism...or worse yet..Christian Mysticism.

big/small..fire/ice..time-bound/timeless etc. etc.

this is mind error.

it doesn't matter though.

it's just incorrect discrimination.

now if you must..

defend your " self " and your " need to be right " .

it's ok and a little bit amusing.

let that " moving..changeable...born and dies...

manifested..timebound...in space " ...

little self of yours get on it's high haunches and squeal.

it's actions and pronouncements are droll...

and completely without meaning or substance.

:-)

..b b.b.

December 3, 2009

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> BobN

> Nisargadatta

> Thursday, December 03, 2009 10:12 AM

> Re: The Situation with Consciosness

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > BobN

> > Nisargadatta

> > Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:44 PM

> > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> >

> > You are not the world, consciousness, the manifest. Your real nature is

> > that

> > which upon those where born. Call this realization what the f...k you

> > like.

> > Pete talks of some unknown as if it was not himself he was talking about -

> > which means a conceptual unknown.

> > -geo-

>

> now now geo settle down.

>

> i don't know what the hell you're trying to say.

>

> what you've written sounds like gobbledygook.

>

> you're no ernest hemingway.

>

> .b b.b.

>

> You don't understand.

>

> I have two aspects.

> One is moving, changeable, is born and dies.

> It is manifested, timebound, in space...

> The other never moves, it is non-manifested, it is unborn

> Timeless, non-definable-dimension...

> The former is enormous but just a small part of me...

> It is empty of any self or itself...

> The later is my real nature, the essence of all there is.

> -geo-

>

Geo,

You meant something like this:

didn't you ?

Werner

December 3, 2009

Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > BobN

> > Nisargadatta

> > Thursday, December 03, 2009 10:12 AM

> > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > -

> > > BobN

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:44 PM

> > > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> > >

> > > You are not the world, consciousness, the manifest. Your real nature is

> > > that

> > > which upon those where born. Call this realization what the f...k you

> > > like.

> > > Pete talks of some unknown as if it was not himself he was talking about -

> > > which means a conceptual unknown.

> > > -geo-

> >

> > now now geo settle down.

> >

> > i don't know what the hell you're trying to say.

> >

> > what you've written sounds like gobbledygook.

> >

> > you're no ernest hemingway.

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> > You don't understand.

> >

> > I have two aspects.

> > One is moving, changeable, is born and dies.

> > It is manifested, timebound, in space...

> > The other never moves, it is non-manifested, it is unborn

> > Timeless, non-definable-dimension...

> > The former is enormous but just a small part of me...

> > It is empty of any self or itself...

> > The later is my real nature, the essence of all there is.

> > -geo-

> >

>

> Geo,

>

> You meant something like this:

>

> didn't you ?

>

> Werner

>

Wow! Nonduality strikes again!

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the death of a twin before life* edited by Althea Hayton (from the UK)

The forward was written by Louis C. Keith, MD. PHD. President, Center for the

Study of Multiple Birth, Chicago, USA.

From the back cover: " When a twin dies during pregnancy, this experience can

leave a vague but profound sense of loss in the mind of the survivor.

Here is are reflected current, ground-breaking research into the death of a

twin, both at birth and before, plus stories and poetry written by the survivors

themselves.

This extraordinary collection of twenty articles about the death of a twin from

a variety of persectives reveal the astonishing truth of how it can actually

feel to be the survivor when your twin died in the womb. "

There's a group: http://health.wombtwin/?yguid=192734117

And another book: http://www.altheahayton.com/wren/wombtwin.html

Who knew?

December 3, 2009

Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > BobN

> > Nisargadatta

> > Thursday, December 03, 2009 10:12 AM

> > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > -

> > > BobN

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:44 PM

> > > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> > >

> > > You are not the world, consciousness, the manifest. Your real nature is

> > > that

> > > which upon those where born. Call this realization what the f...k you

> > > like.

> > > Pete talks of some unknown as if it was not himself he was talking about -

> > > which means a conceptual unknown.

> > > -geo-

> >

> > now now geo settle down.

> >

> > i don't know what the hell you're trying to say.

> >

> > what you've written sounds like gobbledygook.

> >

> > you're no ernest hemingway.

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> > You don't understand.

> >

> > I have two aspects.

> > One is moving, changeable, is born and dies.

> > It is manifested, timebound, in space...

> > The other never moves, it is non-manifested, it is unborn

> > Timeless, non-definable-dimension...

> > The former is enormous but just a small part of me...

> > It is empty of any self or itself...

> > The later is my real nature, the essence of all there is.

> > -geo-

> >

>

P: You are not Timeless, nor unmoving, nor unborn

Geo. You are a beginner who takes metaphors for

his real self. You will never be any of those things,

no one is or will be. That that you talk about is

not you, and doesn't even know you exist. All you

can do is be still, so the unknown can use your brain.

December 3, 2009

Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > BobN

> > Nisargadatta

> > Thursday, December 03, 2009 10:12 AM

> > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > -

> > > BobN

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:44 PM

> > > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> > >

> > > You are not the world, consciousness, the manifest. Your real nature is

> > > that

> > > which upon those where born. Call this realization what the f...k you

> > > like.

> > > Pete talks of some unknown as if it was not himself he was talking about -

> > > which means a conceptual unknown.

> > > -geo-

> >

> > now now geo settle down.

> >

> > i don't know what the hell you're trying to say.

> >

> > what you've written sounds like gobbledygook.

> >

> > you're no ernest hemingway.

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> > You don't understand.

> >

> > I have two aspects.

> > One is moving, changeable, is born and dies.

> > It is manifested, timebound, in space...

> > The other never moves, it is non-manifested, it is unborn

> > Timeless, non-definable-dimension...

> > The former is enormous but just a small part of me...

> > It is empty of any self or itself...

> > The later is my real nature, the essence of all there is.

> > -geo-

> >

>

> Geo,

>

> You meant something like this:

>

> didn't you ?

>

> Werner

that's swell Curlylocks.

LOL!

..b b.b.

December 3, 2009

> >

>

> Geo,

>

> You meant something like this:

>

> didn't you ?

>

> Werner

Haha! No, he meant like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Inycarxt0a4 & NR=1

>

December 3, 2009

Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > -

> > > BobN

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Thursday, December 03, 2009 10:12 AM

> > > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > BobN

> > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:44 PM

> > > > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> > > >

> > > > You are not the world, consciousness, the manifest. Your real nature is

> > > > that

> > > > which upon those where born. Call this realization what the f...k you

> > > > like.

> > > > Pete talks of some unknown as if it was not himself he was talking about

-

> > > > which means a conceptual unknown.

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > > now now geo settle down.

> > >

> > > i don't know what the hell you're trying to say.

> > >

> > > what you've written sounds like gobbledygook.

> > >

> > > you're no ernest hemingway.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > You don't understand.

> > >

> > > I have two aspects.

> > > One is moving, changeable, is born and dies.

> > > It is manifested, timebound, in space...

> > > The other never moves, it is non-manifested, it is unborn

> > > Timeless, non-definable-dimension...

> > > The former is enormous but just a small part of me...

> > > It is empty of any self or itself...

> > > The later is my real nature, the essence of all there is.

> > > -geo-

> > >

> >

> > Geo,

> >

> > You meant something like this:

> >

> > didn't you ?

> >

> > Werner

>

> that's swell Curlylocks.

>

> LOL!

>

> .b b.b.

>

OMG, a thought for a new paradigm: curlylocks and the three .b.'s.

Love U2,

~A

December 3, 2009

Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > BobN

> > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > Thursday, December 03, 2009 10:12 AM

> > > > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > BobN

> > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:44 PM

> > > > > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> > > > >

> > > > > You are not the world, consciousness, the manifest. Your real nature

is

> > > > > that

> > > > > which upon those where born. Call this realization what the f...k you

> > > > > like.

> > > > > Pete talks of some unknown as if it was not himself he was talking

about -

> > > > > which means a conceptual unknown.

> > > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > > > now now geo settle down.

> > > >

> > > > i don't know what the hell you're trying to say.

> > > >

> > > > what you've written sounds like gobbledygook.

> > > >

> > > > you're no ernest hemingway.

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > > > You don't understand.

> > > >

> > > > I have two aspects.

> > > > One is moving, changeable, is born and dies.

> > > > It is manifested, timebound, in space...

> > > > The other never moves, it is non-manifested, it is unborn

> > > > Timeless, non-definable-dimension...

> > > > The former is enormous but just a small part of me...

> > > > It is empty of any self or itself...

> > > > The later is my real nature, the essence of all there is.

> > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > >

> > > Geo,

> > >

> > > You meant something like this:

> > >

> > > didn't you ?

> > >

> > > Werner

> >

> > that's swell Curlylocks.

> >

> > LOL!

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

>

> OMG, a thought for a new paradigm: curlylocks and the three .b.'s.

>

> Love U2,

>

> ~A

:-)

..b b.b.

December 3, 2009

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> cerosoul

> Nisargadatta

> Thursday, December 03, 2009 1:25 PM

> Re: The Situation with Consciosness

>

> Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > -

> > > BobN

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Thursday, December 03, 2009 10:12 AM

> > > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > BobN

> > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:44 PM

> > > > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> > > >

> > > > You are not the world, consciousness, the manifest. Your real nature

> > > > is

> > > > that

> > > > which upon those where born. Call this realization what the f...k you

> > > > like.

> > > > Pete talks of some unknown as if it was not himself he was talking

> > > > about -

> > > > which means a conceptual unknown.

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > > now now geo settle down.

> > >

> > > i don't know what the hell you're trying to say.

> > >

> > > what you've written sounds like gobbledygook.

> > >

> > > you're no ernest hemingway.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > You don't understand.

> > >

> > > I have two aspects.

> > > One is moving, changeable, is born and dies.

> > > It is manifested, timebound, in space...

> > > The other never moves, it is non-manifested, it is unborn

> > > Timeless, non-definable-dimension...

> > > The former is enormous but just a small part of me...

> > > It is empty of any self or itself...

> > > The later is my real nature, the essence of all there is.

> > > -geo-

> > >

> >

> P: You are not Timeless, nor unmoving, nor unborn

> Geo. You are a beginner who takes metaphors for

> his real self. You will never be any of those things,

> no one is or will be. That that you talk about is

> not you, and doesn't even know you exist. All you

> can do is be still, so the unknown can use your brain.

>

> geo> LOL And this unknown of yours is other then you?

P: There is no Pete, and no other, whatsoever, anywhere.

What happens, happens by itself, of itself, and for itself.

>

December 3, 2009

-

cerosoul

Nisargadatta

Thursday, December 03, 2009 1:25 PM

Re: The Situation with Consciosness

Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > BobN

> > Nisargadatta

> > Thursday, December 03, 2009 10:12 AM

> > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > -

> > > BobN

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:44 PM

> > > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> > >

> > > You are not the world, consciousness, the manifest. Your real nature

> > > is

> > > that

> > > which upon those where born. Call this realization what the f...k you

> > > like.

> > > Pete talks of some unknown as if it was not himself he was talking

> > > about -

> > > which means a conceptual unknown.

> > > -geo-

> >

> > now now geo settle down.

> >

> > i don't know what the hell you're trying to say.

> >

> > what you've written sounds like gobbledygook.

> >

> > you're no ernest hemingway.

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> > You don't understand.

> >

> > I have two aspects.

> > One is moving, changeable, is born and dies.

> > It is manifested, timebound, in space...

> > The other never moves, it is non-manifested, it is unborn

> > Timeless, non-definable-dimension...

> > The former is enormous but just a small part of me...

> > It is empty of any self or itself...

> > The later is my real nature, the essence of all there is.

> > -geo-

> >

>

P: You are not Timeless, nor unmoving, nor unborn

Geo. You are a beginner who takes metaphors for

his real self. You will never be any of those things,

no one is or will be. That that you talk about is

not you, and doesn't even know you exist. All you

can do is be still, so the unknown can use your brain.

geo> LOL And this unknown of yours is other then you?

December 3, 2009

-

geo

Nisargadatta

Thursday, December 03, 2009 3:22 PM

Re: Re: The Situation with Consciosness

-

cerosoul

Nisargadatta

Thursday, December 03, 2009 1:25 PM

Re: The Situation with Consciosness

Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > BobN

> > Nisargadatta

> > Thursday, December 03, 2009 10:12 AM

> > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > -

> > > BobN

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:44 PM

> > > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> > >

> > > You are not the world, consciousness, the manifest. Your real nature

> > > is

> > > that

> > > which upon those where born. Call this realization what the f...k you

> > > like.

> > > Pete talks of some unknown as if it was not himself he was talking

> > > about -

> > > which means a conceptual unknown.

> > > -geo-

> >

> > now now geo settle down.

> >

> > i don't know what the hell you're trying to say.

> >

> > what you've written sounds like gobbledygook.

> >

> > you're no ernest hemingway.

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> > You don't understand.

> >

> > I have two aspects.

> > One is moving, changeable, is born and dies.

> > It is manifested, timebound, in space...

> > The other never moves, it is non-manifested, it is unborn

> > Timeless, non-definable-dimension...

> > The former is enormous but just a small part of me...

> > It is empty of any self or itself...

> > The later is my real nature, the essence of all there is.

> > -geo-

> >

>

P: You are not Timeless, nor unmoving, nor unborn

Geo. You are a beginner who takes metaphors for

his real self. You will never be any of those things,

no one is or will be. That that you talk about is

not you, and doesn't even know you exist. All you

can do is be still, so the unknown can use your brain.

geo> LOL And this unknown of yours is other then you?

Wait a minute...this is really good: " That that you talk about is not you,

and doesn't even know you exist "

So there is a THAT high above the sky that does not know you, but will use

your brains if you stay quiet. It is a an alien stuff...it is somewhere

else...It belongs to an alternate existence, not this one....but pete knows

it is there and even talks about it. Hmmmm....

December 3, 2009

-

cerosoul

Nisargadatta

Thursday, December 03, 2009 3:39 PM

Re: The Situation with Consciosness

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> cerosoul

> Nisargadatta

> Thursday, December 03, 2009 1:25 PM

> Re: The Situation with Consciosness

>

> Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > -

> > > BobN

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Thursday, December 03, 2009 10:12 AM

> > > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > BobN

> > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:44 PM

> > > > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> > > >

> > > > You are not the world, consciousness, the manifest. Your real nature

> > > > is

> > > > that

> > > > which upon those where born. Call this realization what the f...k

> > > > you

> > > > like.

> > > > Pete talks of some unknown as if it was not himself he was talking

> > > > about -

> > > > which means a conceptual unknown.

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > > now now geo settle down.

> > >

> > > i don't know what the hell you're trying to say.

> > >

> > > what you've written sounds like gobbledygook.

> > >

> > > you're no ernest hemingway.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > You don't understand.

> > >

> > > I have two aspects.

> > > One is moving, changeable, is born and dies.

> > > It is manifested, timebound, in space...

> > > The other never moves, it is non-manifested, it is unborn

> > > Timeless, non-definable-dimension...

> > > The former is enormous but just a small part of me...

> > > It is empty of any self or itself...

> > > The later is my real nature, the essence of all there is.

> > > -geo-

> > >

> >

> P: You are not Timeless, nor unmoving, nor unborn

> Geo. You are a beginner who takes metaphors for

> his real self. You will never be any of those things,

> no one is or will be. That that you talk about is

> not you, and doesn't even know you exist. All you

> can do is be still, so the unknown can use your brain.

>

> geo> LOL And this unknown of yours is other then you?

P: There is no Pete, and no other, whatsoever, anywhere.

What happens, happens by itself, of itself, and for itself.

geo> Yes. And what makes you think I feel there is some geo anywhere? Just

because I used the term " I " ?

Well, one must use something otherwise language becomes weird.

December 3, 2009

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> cerosoul

> Nisargadatta

> Thursday, December 03, 2009 3:39 PM

> Re: The Situation with Consciosness

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > cerosoul

> > Nisargadatta

> > Thursday, December 03, 2009 1:25 PM

> > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > BobN

> > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > Thursday, December 03, 2009 10:12 AM

> > > > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > BobN

> > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:44 PM

> > > > > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> > > > >

> > > > > You are not the world, consciousness, the manifest. Your real nature

> > > > > is

> > > > > that

> > > > > which upon those where born. Call this realization what the f...k

> > > > > you

> > > > > like.

> > > > > Pete talks of some unknown as if it was not himself he was talking

> > > > > about -

> > > > > which means a conceptual unknown.

> > > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > > > now now geo settle down.

> > > >

> > > > i don't know what the hell you're trying to say.

> > > >

> > > > what you've written sounds like gobbledygook.

> > > >

> > > > you're no ernest hemingway.

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > > > You don't understand.

> > > >

> > > > I have two aspects.

> > > > One is moving, changeable, is born and dies.

> > > > It is manifested, timebound, in space...

> > > > The other never moves, it is non-manifested, it is unborn

> > > > Timeless, non-definable-dimension...

> > > > The former is enormous but just a small part of me...

> > > > It is empty of any self or itself...

> > > > The later is my real nature, the essence of all there is.

> > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > >

> > P: You are not Timeless, nor unmoving, nor unborn

> > Geo. You are a beginner who takes metaphors for

> > his real self. You will never be any of those things,

> > no one is or will be. That that you talk about is

> > not you, and doesn't even know you exist. All you

> > can do is be still, so the unknown can use your brain.

> >

> > geo> LOL And this unknown of yours is other then you?

>

> P: There is no Pete, and no other, whatsoever, anywhere.

> What happens, happens by itself, of itself, and for itself.

>

> geo> Yes. And what makes you think I feel there is some geo anywhere? Just

> because I used the term " I " ?

> Well, one must use something otherwise language becomes weird.

>

P: Saying geo or saying I refers to the same mirage. You

could have said:

The absolute has two aspects.

> > > > One is moving, changeable, is born and dies.

> > > > It is manifested, timebound, in space...

> > > > The other never moves, it is non-manifested, it is unborn

> > > > Timeless, non-definable-dimension...

> > > > The former is enormous but just a small part of me...

> > > > It is empty of any self or itself...

> > > > The later is the real nature, the essence of all there is.

P: But you spoke as if the absolute wrote the above,

and in that way, the mirage boasted of being the landscape.

I can recognize spiritual pride when I see it.

December 3, 2009

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> You are not the world, consciousness, the manifest. Your real nature is that

> which upon those where born. Call this realization what the f...k you like.

> Pete talks of some unknown as if it was not himself he was talking about -

> which means a conceptual unknown.

> -geo-

Yes, I know nothing of who I am.

I know of things, of constructs, of I's and selves imagined.

The selves existing, are known, are experienced - actually are a series of

experiences imaginarily connected by thought, memory and emotion.

- D -

December 3, 2009

-

cerosoul

Nisargadatta

Thursday, December 03, 2009 5:49 PM

Re: The Situation with Consciosness

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> cerosoul

> Nisargadatta

> Thursday, December 03, 2009 3:39 PM

> Re: The Situation with Consciosness

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > cerosoul

> > Nisargadatta

> > Thursday, December 03, 2009 1:25 PM

> > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > BobN

> > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > Thursday, December 03, 2009 10:12 AM

> > > > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > BobN

> > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:44 PM

> > > > > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> > > > >

> > > > > You are not the world, consciousness, the manifest. Your real

> > > > > nature

> > > > > is

> > > > > that

> > > > > which upon those where born. Call this realization what the f...k

> > > > > you

> > > > > like.

> > > > > Pete talks of some unknown as if it was not himself he was talking

> > > > > about -

> > > > > which means a conceptual unknown.

> > > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > > > now now geo settle down.

> > > >

> > > > i don't know what the hell you're trying to say.

> > > >

> > > > what you've written sounds like gobbledygook.

> > > >

> > > > you're no ernest hemingway.

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > > > You don't understand.

> > > >

> > > > I have two aspects.

> > > > One is moving, changeable, is born and dies.

> > > > It is manifested, timebound, in space...

> > > > The other never moves, it is non-manifested, it is unborn

> > > > Timeless, non-definable-dimension...

> > > > The former is enormous but just a small part of me...

> > > > It is empty of any self or itself...

> > > > The later is my real nature, the essence of all there is.

> > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > >

> > P: You are not Timeless, nor unmoving, nor unborn

> > Geo. You are a beginner who takes metaphors for

> > his real self. You will never be any of those things,

> > no one is or will be. That that you talk about is

> > not you, and doesn't even know you exist. All you

> > can do is be still, so the unknown can use your brain.

> >

> > geo> LOL And this unknown of yours is other then you?

>

> P: There is no Pete, and no other, whatsoever, anywhere.

> What happens, happens by itself, of itself, and for itself.

>

> geo> Yes. And what makes you think I feel there is some geo anywhere? Just

> because I used the term " I " ?

> Well, one must use something otherwise language becomes weird.

>

P: Saying geo or saying I refers to the same mirage. You

could have said:

The absolute has two aspects.

> > > > One is moving, changeable, is born and dies.

> > > > It is manifested, timebound, in space...

> > > > The other never moves, it is non-manifested, it is unborn

> > > > Timeless, non-definable-dimension...

> > > > The former is enormous but just a small part of me...

> > > > It is empty of any self or itself...

> > > > The later is the real nature, the essence of all there is.

P: But you spoke as if the absolute wrote the above,

and in that way, the mirage boasted of being the landscape.

I can recognize spiritual pride when I see it.

geo> Prey tell me: if there is an absolute as you correctly seem to

suggest...where is it? Somewhere else?

December 3, 2009

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

>

> >

> > You are not the world, consciousness, the manifest. Your real nature is that

> > which upon those where born. Call this realization what the f...k you like.

> > Pete talks of some unknown as if it was not himself he was talking about -

> > which means a conceptual unknown.

> > -geo-

>

> Yes, I know nothing of who I am.

>

> I know of things, of constructs, of I's and selves imagined.

>

> The selves existing, are known, are experienced - actually are a series of

experiences imaginarily connected by thought, memory and emotion.

>

> - D -

it's good that you're aware of this imaginary stuff.

even more so that you are aware that you are aware.

..b b.b.

December 4, 2009

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> cerosoul

> Nisargadatta

> Thursday, December 03, 2009 5:49 PM

> Re: The Situation with Consciosness

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > cerosoul

> > Nisargadatta

> > Thursday, December 03, 2009 3:39 PM

> > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > -

> > > cerosoul

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Thursday, December 03, 2009 1:25 PM

> > > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > BobN

> > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > Thursday, December 03, 2009 10:12 AM

> > > > > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > BobN

> > > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > > Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:44 PM

> > > > > > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You are not the world, consciousness, the manifest. Your real

> > > > > > nature

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > which upon those where born. Call this realization what the f...k

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > like.

> > > > > > Pete talks of some unknown as if it was not himself he was talking

> > > > > > about -

> > > > > > which means a conceptual unknown.

> > > > > > -geo-

> > > > >

> > > > > now now geo settle down.

> > > > >

> > > > > i don't know what the hell you're trying to say.

> > > > >

> > > > > what you've written sounds like gobbledygook.

> > > > >

> > > > > you're no ernest hemingway.

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > >

> > > > > You don't understand.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have two aspects.

> > > > > One is moving, changeable, is born and dies.

> > > > > It is manifested, timebound, in space...

> > > > > The other never moves, it is non-manifested, it is unborn

> > > > > Timeless, non-definable-dimension...

> > > > > The former is enormous but just a small part of me...

> > > > > It is empty of any self or itself...

> > > > > The later is my real nature, the essence of all there is.

> > > > > -geo-

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > P: You are not Timeless, nor unmoving, nor unborn

> > > Geo. You are a beginner who takes metaphors for

> > > his real self. You will never be any of those things,

> > > no one is or will be. That that you talk about is

> > > not you, and doesn't even know you exist. All you

> > > can do is be still, so the unknown can use your brain.

> > >

> > > geo> LOL And this unknown of yours is other then you?

> >

> > P: There is no Pete, and no other, whatsoever, anywhere.

> > What happens, happens by itself, of itself, and for itself.

> >

> > geo> Yes. And what makes you think I feel there is some geo anywhere? Just

> > because I used the term " I " ?

> > Well, one must use something otherwise language becomes weird.

> >

>

> P: Saying geo or saying I refers to the same mirage. You

> could have said:

>

> The absolute has two aspects.

> > > > > One is moving, changeable, is born and dies.

> > > > > It is manifested, timebound, in space...

> > > > > The other never moves, it is non-manifested, it is unborn

> > > > > Timeless, non-definable-dimension...

> > > > > The former is enormous but just a small part of me...

> > > > > It is empty of any self or itself...

> > > > > The later is the real nature, the essence of all there is.

>

> P: But you spoke as if the absolute wrote the above,

> and in that way, the mirage boasted of being the landscape.

> I can recognize spiritual pride when I see it.

>

> geo> Prey tell me: if there is an absolute as you correctly seem to

> suggest...where is it? Somewhere else?

P: The absolute exist in language. It's the wording of a concept.

Do you perceive any other absolute that is not a sensation, or

a concept?

>

December 4, 2009

-

cerosoul

Nisargadatta

Thursday, December 03, 2009 9:52 PM

Re: The Situation with Consciosness

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> cerosoul

> Nisargadatta

> Thursday, December 03, 2009 5:49 PM

> Re: The Situation with Consciosness

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > cerosoul

> > Nisargadatta

> > Thursday, December 03, 2009 3:39 PM

> > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > -

> > > cerosoul

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Thursday, December 03, 2009 1:25 PM

> > > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > BobN

> > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > Thursday, December 03, 2009 10:12 AM

> > > > > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > BobN

> > > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > > Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:44 PM

> > > > > > Re: The Situation with Consciosness

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You are not the world, consciousness, the manifest. Your real

> > > > > > nature

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > which upon those where born. Call this realization what the

> > > > > > f...k

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > like.

> > > > > > Pete talks of some unknown as if it was not himself he was

> > > > > > talking

> > > > > > about -

> > > > > > which means a conceptual unknown.

> > > > > > -geo-

> > > > >

> > > > > now now geo settle down.

> > > > >

> > > > > i don't know what the hell you're trying to say.

> > > > >

> > > > > what you've written sounds like gobbledygook.

> > > > >

> > > > > you're no ernest hemingway.

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > >

> > > > > You don't understand.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have two aspects.

> > > > > One is moving, changeable, is born and dies.

> > > > > It is manifested, timebound, in space...

> > > > > The other never moves, it is non-manifested, it is unborn

> > > > > Timeless, non-definable-dimension...

> > > > > The former is enormous but just a small part of me...

> > > > > It is empty of any self or itself...

> > > > > The later is my real nature, the essence of all there is.

> > > > > -geo-

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > P: You are not Timeless, nor unmoving, nor unborn

> > > Geo. You are a beginner who takes metaphors for

> > > his real self. You will never be any of those things,

> > > no one is or will be. That that you talk about is

> > > not you, and doesn't even know you exist. All you

> > > can do is be still, so the unknown can use your brain.

> > >

> > > geo> LOL And this unknown of yours is other then you?

> >

> > P: There is no Pete, and no other, whatsoever, anywhere.

> > What happens, happens by itself, of itself, and for itself.

> >

> > geo> Yes. And what makes you think I feel there is some geo anywhere?

> > Just

> > because I used the term " I " ?

> > Well, one must use something otherwise language becomes weird.

> >

>

> P: Saying geo or saying I refers to the same mirage. You

> could have said:

>

> The absolute has two aspects.

> > > > > One is moving, changeable, is born and dies.

> > > > > It is manifested, timebound, in space...

> > > > > The other never moves, it is non-manifested, it is unborn

> > > > > Timeless, non-definable-dimension...

> > > > > The former is enormous but just a small part of me...

> > > > > It is empty of any self or itself...

> > > > > The later is the real nature, the essence of all there is.

>

> P: But you spoke as if the absolute wrote the above,

> and in that way, the mirage boasted of being the landscape.

> I can recognize spiritual pride when I see it.

>

> geo> Prey tell me: if there is an absolute as you correctly seem to

> suggest...where is it? Somewhere else?

P: The absolute exist in language. It's the wording of a concept.

Do you perceive any other absolute that is not a sensation, or

a concept?

geo> Existence is just in language....cool.

The perceiver of an absolute...and the absolute, makes two of them. Fine.

December 4, 2009

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> P: The absolute exist in language. It's the wording of a concept.

> Do you perceive any other absolute that is not a sensation, or

> a concept?

>

> geo> Existence is just in language....cool.

> The perceiver of an absolute...and the absolute, makes two of them. Fine.

P: I didn't mention existence. If you think

absolute and existence mean the same, your

problem with semantics is worse than I thought.

>

December 4, 2009

Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > P: The absolute exist in language. It's the wording of a concept.

> > Do you perceive any other absolute that is not a sensation, or

> > a concept?

> >

> > geo> Existence is just in language....cool.

> > The perceiver of an absolute...and the absolute, makes two of them. Fine.

>

> P: I didn't mention existence. If you think

> absolute and existence mean the same, your

> problem with semantics is worse than I thought.

> >

Absolute means essentially " ab-solute " , not in solution, not watered down,

" pure " -- without a second, if ya will.

December 4, 2009

Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > P: The absolute exist in language. It's the wording of a concept.

> > > Do you perceive any other absolute that is not a sensation, or

> > > a concept?

> > >

> > > geo> Existence is just in language....cool.

> > > The perceiver of an absolute...and the absolute, makes two of them. Fine.

> >

> > P: I didn't mention existence. If you think

> > absolute and existence mean the same, your

> > problem with semantics is worse than I thought.

> > >

>

> Absolute means essentially " ab-solute " , not in solution, not watered down,

" pure " -- without a second, if ya will.

>

As this is ostensibly Nis's list, let's let him have his input ;-):

Questioner: Shapes and names are all of one and the same God?

Maharaj: Again, it all depends on how you look at it. On the verbal level

everything is relative. Absolutes should be experienced, not discussed.

December 4, 2009

Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > P: The absolute exist in language. It's the wording of a concept.

> > > > Do you perceive any other absolute that is not a sensation, or

> > > > a concept?

> > > >

> > > > geo> Existence is just in language....cool.

> > > > The perceiver of an absolute...and the absolute, makes two of them.

Fine.

> > >

> > > P: I didn't mention existence. If you think

> > > absolute and existence mean the same, your

> > > problem with semantics is worse than I thought.

> > > >

> >

> > Absolute means essentially " ab-solute " , not in solution, not watered down,

" pure " -- without a second, if ya will.

> >

>

> As this is ostensibly Nis's list, let's let him have his input ;-):

>

> Questioner: Shapes and names are all of one and the same God?

>

> Maharaj: Again, it all depends on how you look at it. On the verbal level

everything is relative. Absolutes should be experienced, not discussed.

" depends on how " you " look at " it " " ?????????????????????????????

it doesn't get more dual than that.

Nizzy was talking through his nose.

and to think some kids think that's wise snot!

s'not!

sheesh!

..b b.b.

December 4, 2009

Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > P: The absolute exist in language. It's the wording of a concept.

> > > > > Do you perceive any other absolute that is not a sensation, or

> > > > > a concept?

> > > > >

> > > > > geo> Existence is just in language....cool.

> > > > > The perceiver of an absolute...and the absolute, makes two of them.

Fine.

> > > >

> > > > P: I didn't mention existence. If you think

> > > > absolute and existence mean the same, your

> > > > problem with semantics is worse than I thought.

> > > > >

> > >

> > > Absolute means essentially " ab-solute " , not in solution, not watered down,

" pure " -- without a second, if ya will.

> > >

> >

> > As this is ostensibly Nis's list, let's let him have his input ;-):

> >

> > Questioner: Shapes and names are all of one and the same God?

> >

> > Maharaj: Again, it all depends on how you look at it. On the verbal level

everything is relative. Absolutes should be experienced, not discussed.

>

> " depends on how " you " look at " it " " ?????????????????????????????

>

> it doesn't get more dual than that.

>

> Nizzy was talking through his nose.

>

> and to think some kids think that's wise snot!

>

> s'not!

>

> sheesh!

>

> .b b.b.

>

Maharaj: Again, it all depends on how you look at it.

Did you get tired after reading that first line?

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