Guest guest Report post Posted August 28, 2009 Acetylcholinesterase is an enzyme that gobbles up acetylcholine. Now you know. Go in peace. What? You want more words from Edg? Well if you're going to badger me I guess I will have to write more. Acetylcholinesterase is the chemical that processes acetylcholine into a couple of pieces and thus stops acetylcholine's activity in the synapse between neurons. So, there, proof that Shiva can be found. WTF? Back again? Can't you put two and two together? Acetylcholine is created by the nerve cell and spewed into the gap between nerve endings. This causes the other nerve to send a chemical-electrical signal down its length. This is the basis of thought, ya see? If one nerve wants to communicate with another, it spits at it. Spit words is how yer nerves talk. Now, you don't want to repeat yourself, so you have to have a way to remove the acetylcholine once it's activated the other nerve -- otherwise its presence will just keep triggering the other nerve, and that is very very bad. So, get this, one single molecule of acetylcholinesterase gobbles up to 5,000 molecules of acetylcholine per second. So Acetylcholinesterase is found EVERYWHERE in the body just in case some nerve spits -- BAM -- it gets in there and wipes up the lugey. See? Okay, I'm outta here, now that you know the truth. What? You don't see that Shiva's dance is happening immediately after each and every thought you have? Are you denying that you have thoughts once and only once and that they immediately shut up after they've spoken? The divine metric: one Shiva equals 5,000 Brahmas. Shiva sings to Brahma while He's dancing: " Anything you can do I can undo better. " There's no waiting for dissolution -- talk about being sated and not knowing it -- you're experiencing dissolution, blessed dissolution, after each thought. God's cleaning up your mental messes as soon as you create them -- just so you can keep on doing yer nervy spit thingy. Now, just when do you plan to give God's Maid Service a well deserved rest? Inquiring minds want to know. Edg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg wrote: > > Acetylcholinesterase is an enzyme that gobbles up acetylcholine. > > Now you know. > > Go in peace. > > What? You want more words from Edg? > > Well if you're going to badger me I guess I will have to write more. > > Acetylcholinesterase is the chemical that processes acetylcholine into a couple of pieces and thus stops acetylcholine's activity in the synapse between neurons. > > So, there, proof that Shiva can be found. > > WTF? Back again? Can't you put two and two together? > > Acetylcholine is created by the nerve cell and spewed into the gap between nerve endings. This causes the other nerve to send a chemical-electrical signal down its length. This is the basis of thought, ya see? If one nerve wants to communicate with another, it spits at it. Spit words is how yer nerves talk. > > Now, you don't want to repeat yourself, so you have to have a way to remove the acetylcholine once it's activated the other nerve -- otherwise its presence will just keep triggering the other nerve, and that is very very bad. So, get this, one single molecule of acetylcholinesterase gobbles up to 5,000 molecules of acetylcholine per second. So Acetylcholinesterase is found EVERYWHERE in the body just in case some nerve spits -- BAM -- it gets in there and wipes up the lugey. > > See? > > Okay, I'm outta here, now that you know the truth. > > What? You don't see that Shiva's dance is happening immediately after each and every thought you have? Are you denying that you have thoughts once and only once and that they immediately shut up after they've spoken? > > The divine metric: one Shiva equals 5,000 Brahmas. Shiva sings to Brahma while He's dancing: " Anything you can do I can undo better. " > > There's no waiting for dissolution -- talk about being sated and not knowing it -- you're experiencing dissolution, blessed dissolution, after each thought. God's cleaning up your mental messes as soon as you create them -- just so you can keep on doing yer nervy spit thingy. > > Now, just when do you plan to give God's Maid Service a well deserved rest? > > Inquiring minds want to know. > > Edg > This is a beautiful insight into the nature of thought. (as thought watches itself dissolving) But why is it necessary to attribute it to a creator god? And if there were such a creature......would his own thoughts be subject to the same process? (Now don't get mean on me..........just wait for awhile until all those aggressive thoughts dissolve.) :-) toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote: > > > > Acetylcholinesterase is an enzyme that gobbles up acetylcholine. > > > > Now you know. > > > > Go in peace. > > > > What? You want more words from Edg? > > > > Well if you're going to badger me I guess I will have to write more. > > > > Acetylcholinesterase is the chemical that processes acetylcholine into a couple of pieces and thus stops acetylcholine's activity in the synapse between neurons. > > > > So, there, proof that Shiva can be found. > > > > WTF? Back again? Can't you put two and two together? > > > > Acetylcholine is created by the nerve cell and spewed into the gap between nerve endings. This causes the other nerve to send a chemical-electrical signal down its length. This is the basis of thought, ya see? If one nerve wants to communicate with another, it spits at it. Spit words is how yer nerves talk. > > > > Now, you don't want to repeat yourself, so you have to have a way to remove the acetylcholine once it's activated the other nerve -- otherwise its presence will just keep triggering the other nerve, and that is very very bad. So, get this, one single molecule of acetylcholinesterase gobbles up to 5,000 molecules of acetylcholine per second. So Acetylcholinesterase is found EVERYWHERE in the body just in case some nerve spits -- BAM -- it gets in there and wipes up the lugey. > > > > See? > > > > Okay, I'm outta here, now that you know the truth. > > > > What? You don't see that Shiva's dance is happening immediately after each and every thought you have? Are you denying that you have thoughts once and only once and that they immediately shut up after they've spoken? > > > > The divine metric: one Shiva equals 5,000 Brahmas. Shiva sings to Brahma while He's dancing: " Anything you can do I can undo better. " > > > > There's no waiting for dissolution -- talk about being sated and not knowing it -- you're experiencing dissolution, blessed dissolution, after each thought. God's cleaning up your mental messes as soon as you create them -- just so you can keep on doing yer nervy spit thingy. > > > > Now, just when do you plan to give God's Maid Service a well deserved rest? > > > > Inquiring minds want to know. > > > > Edg > > > > > > This is a beautiful insight into the nature of thought. > > (as thought watches itself dissolving) > > But why is it necessary to attribute it to a creator god? > > And if there were such a creature......would his own thoughts be subject to the same process? > > (Now don't get mean on me..........just wait for awhile until all those aggressive thoughts dissolve.) > :-) > toombaru Edg: I do confess to an inordinate amount of pleasure whacking your moles. Thanks for the praise -- coming from you after I've been so dismissive of your posts, well, it's humbling to see someone able to put that aside and still offer interaction. But, say, now just a damned minute -- you're not enjoying my mighty smites are ya? Is we an S & M duo? And, yeah, I think God The Creator exists and can be experienced. Every thought you have is BAM a huge miracle, right? Miraculous on the basis of the sheer amount of transactions that are the foundation of thought -- 50 Trillion cells in the human body be a buzzin' at all times. Talk about your Cosmic Logistics! But miraculous too on the level of " beyond imagination " that physicists daily must groan under the weight of. Ask one of them what a graviton is or how many dimensions there are or what to make of the virtuality of paired opposites underlying the quantum foam, and you'll get a person in a white coat who starts to spout religion atcha on the spot. Thoughts are miracles on soooooo many levels, and, well, someOne's got to take the blame for creation, and I feel guilt free accusing God, cuz if He is convicted of the crime, He'll be able to do the time -- and the space that must go along with it. Consider that functionality of the human brain that is getting thoughts through the backdoor, trotting the thought out of the backroom and putting it on the counter top for retail sale and pretending that the thought was manufactured " on the premises. " There's yer God -- a com-link to the Absolute. Ya never see the Absolute's lips move, but there's God taking all the credit as he pretends to talk and hands your next thought to you at the back door. You and God -- what crew, eh? Such a headache these two. Edg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg wrote: P: Haha! That's the way. I like it! Aha! > > Acetylcholinesterase is an enzyme that gobbles up acetylcholine. > > Now you know. > > Go in peace. > > What? You want more words from Edg? > > Well if you're going to badger me I guess I will have to write more. > > Acetylcholinesterase is the chemical that processes acetylcholine into a couple of pieces and thus stops acetylcholine's activity in the synapse between neurons. > > So, there, proof that Shiva can be found. > > WTF? Back again? Can't you put two and two together? > > Acetylcholine is created by the nerve cell and spewed into the gap between nerve endings. This causes the other nerve to send a chemical-electrical signal down its length. This is the basis of thought, ya see? If one nerve wants to communicate with another, it spits at it. Spit words is how yer nerves talk. > > Now, you don't want to repeat yourself, so you have to have a way to remove the acetylcholine once it's activated the other nerve -- otherwise its presence will just keep triggering the other nerve, and that is very very bad. So, get this, one single molecule of acetylcholinesterase gobbles up to 5,000 molecules of acetylcholine per second. So Acetylcholinesterase is found EVERYWHERE in the body just in case some nerve spits -- BAM -- it gets in there and wipes up the lugey. > > See? > > Okay, I'm outta here, now that you know the truth. > > What? You don't see that Shiva's dance is happening immediately after each and every thought you have? Are you denying that you have thoughts once and only once and that they immediately shut up after they've spoken? > > The divine metric: one Shiva equals 5,000 Brahmas. Shiva sings to Brahma while He's dancing: " Anything you can do I can undo better. " > > There's no waiting for dissolution -- talk about being sated and not knowing it -- you're experiencing dissolution, blessed dissolution, after each thought. God's cleaning up your mental messes as soon as you create them -- just so you can keep on doing yer nervy spit thingy. > > Now, just when do you plan to give God's Maid Service a well deserved rest? > > Inquiring minds want to know. > > Edg > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 28, 2009 > >E: And, yeah, I think God The Creator exists and can be experienced. P: Anthropomorphism is such a good teaching tool. Micky Mouse, and talking rabbits make children understand obtuse concepts. It's so hard to give comforting teddy bears, though. I don't doubt that you feel your creator's pat on your little head. what a comfort, eh! ) > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote: > > > > > > Acetylcholinesterase is an enzyme that gobbles up acetylcholine. > > > > > > Now you know. > > > > > > Go in peace. > > > > > > What? You want more words from Edg? > > > > > > Well if you're going to badger me I guess I will have to write more. > > > > > > Acetylcholinesterase is the chemical that processes acetylcholine into a couple of pieces and thus stops acetylcholine's activity in the synapse between neurons. > > > > > > So, there, proof that Shiva can be found. > > > > > > WTF? Back again? Can't you put two and two together? > > > > > > Acetylcholine is created by the nerve cell and spewed into the gap between nerve endings. This causes the other nerve to send a chemical-electrical signal down its length. This is the basis of thought, ya see? If one nerve wants to communicate with another, it spits at it. Spit words is how yer nerves talk. > > > > > > Now, you don't want to repeat yourself, so you have to have a way to remove the acetylcholine once it's activated the other nerve -- otherwise its presence will just keep triggering the other nerve, and that is very very bad. So, get this, one single molecule of acetylcholinesterase gobbles up to 5,000 molecules of acetylcholine per second. So Acetylcholinesterase is found EVERYWHERE in the body just in case some nerve spits -- BAM -- it gets in there and wipes up the lugey. > > > > > > See? > > > > > > Okay, I'm outta here, now that you know the truth. > > > > > > What? You don't see that Shiva's dance is happening immediately after each and every thought you have? Are you denying that you have thoughts once and only once and that they immediately shut up after they've spoken? > > > > > > The divine metric: one Shiva equals 5,000 Brahmas. Shiva sings to Brahma while He's dancing: " Anything you can do I can undo better. " > > > > > > There's no waiting for dissolution -- talk about being sated and not knowing it -- you're experiencing dissolution, blessed dissolution, after each thought. God's cleaning up your mental messes as soon as you create them -- just so you can keep on doing yer nervy spit thingy. > > > > > > Now, just when do you plan to give God's Maid Service a well deserved rest? > > > > > > Inquiring minds want to know. > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > > > > > > This is a beautiful insight into the nature of thought. > > > > (as thought watches itself dissolving) > > > > But why is it necessary to attribute it to a creator god? > > > > And if there were such a creature......would his own thoughts be subject to the same process? > > > > (Now don't get mean on me..........just wait for awhile until all those aggressive thoughts dissolve.) > > > :-) > > > toombaru > > > Edg: I do confess to an inordinate amount of pleasure whacking your moles. Thanks for the praise -- coming from you after I've been so dismissive of your posts, well, it's humbling to see someone able to put that aside and still offer interaction. But, say, now just a damned minute -- you're not enjoying my mighty smites are ya? Is we an S & M duo? I see another serious seeker and honer that. > > And, yeah, I think God The Creator exists and can be experienced. Yes.......a lot of people do. But then not too long ago a lot of people believed in slavery. Something which the gods of the three major religions extant in the world today have endorsed. > > Every thought you have is BAM a huge miracle, right? No more miraculous than a hummingbird. In that sense....everything is a miracle. And if everything is a miracle the word is meaningless. Miraculous on the basis of the sheer amount of transactions that are the foundation of thought -- 50 Trillion cells in the human body be a buzzin' at all times. Talk about your Cosmic Logistics! Well then the mind that you assume had to design the machinery must be far more complex than anything it could create. How do you explain this exponential intelligence? The attempt to explain something that exceeds the mind's ability to grasp by attributing it to a far more complex entity explains nothing.....but I have to admit......it allows one to put into the assumed known file. > > But miraculous too on the level of " beyond imagination " that physicists daily must groan under the weight of. The vast majority of physicists are atheists. The belief in a creator god is inversely proportional to the level of education. Ask one of them what a graviton is or how many dimensions there are or what to make of the virtuality of paired opposites underlying the quantum foam, and you'll get a person in a white coat who starts to spout religion atcha on the spot. Baloney. Those few scientists that espouse a belief in a creator god are pariahs and an embarrassment to their departments. > > Thoughts are miracles on soooooo many levels, and, well, someOne's got to take the blame for creation, and I feel guilt free accusing God, cuz if He is convicted of the crime, He'll be able to do the time -- and the space that must go along with it. The belief in God is the fundamental block that stops the search the understanding of self in its tracks. Everything that it can't understand it files in the " God Dune It " bucket and believes that it has a handle on reality. The self uses its imaginary gods to support its illusion of specialness. If there is no such thing as self........what does that say about the god that created it? > > Consider that functionality of the human brain that is getting thoughts through the backdoor, trotting the thought out of the backroom and putting it on the counter top for retail sale and pretending that the thought was manufactured " on the premises. " There's yer God -- a com-link to the Absolute. Ya never see the Absolute's lips move, but there's God taking all the credit as he pretends to talk and hands your next thought to you at the back door. There are many reasons that I don't believe in God. Not the least of which is his refusal to show himself. Explain the suffering in the world. Either God can do something about it or he won't. > > You and God -- what crew, eh? Such a headache these two. > > Edg > Life can be a great joy without a big guy in your head watching your every thought. God is merely a by-product of the fear-based function out of which the sense of personal identity emerged. If there were a God (which there is not a shred of evidence to support).......he is doing a worse job than Obama. I can only hope that he can do a better job in heaven than he has on earth. toombsru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > What motivates one to believe in God ? Belief in oneself. One needs a counterpoint 'you, out there', in order to have 'me, in here'. That simple. To believe in God, is to believe in " me " . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > I see another serious seeker and honer that. Eek! " serious seekers " ... I shun them like the plague ;-). To be serious is issue enough, without being a seeker as well. Well, I suppose if one's life has to suck, might as well double-up on the suckage ;-). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 29, 2009 - toombaru2006 Nisargadatta Friday, August 28, 2009 10:30 PM Re: Acetylcholinesterase is Shiva Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote: > > > > > > Acetylcholinesterase is an enzyme that gobbles up acetylcholine. > > > > > > Now you know. > > > > > > Go in peace. > > > > > > What? You want more words from Edg? > > > > > > Well if you're going to badger me I guess I will have to write more. > > > > > > Acetylcholinesterase is the chemical that processes acetylcholine into > > > a couple of pieces and thus stops acetylcholine's activity in the > > > synapse between neurons. > > > > > > So, there, proof that Shiva can be found. > > > > > > WTF? Back again? Can't you put two and two together? > > > > > > Acetylcholine is created by the nerve cell and spewed into the gap > > > between nerve endings. This causes the other nerve to send a > > > chemical-electrical signal down its length. This is the basis of > > > thought, ya see? If one nerve wants to communicate with another, it > > > spits at it. Spit words is how yer nerves talk. > > > > > > Now, you don't want to repeat yourself, so you have to have a way to > > > remove the acetylcholine once it's activated the other nerve -- > > > otherwise its presence will just keep triggering the other nerve, and > > > that is very very bad. So, get this, one single molecule of > > > acetylcholinesterase gobbles up to 5,000 molecules of acetylcholine > > > per second. So Acetylcholinesterase is found EVERYWHERE in the body > > > just in case some nerve spits -- BAM -- it gets in there and wipes up > > > the lugey. > > > > > > See? > > > > > > Okay, I'm outta here, now that you know the truth. > > > > > > What? You don't see that Shiva's dance is happening immediately after > > > each and every thought you have? Are you denying that you have > > > thoughts once and only once and that they immediately shut up after > > > they've spoken? > > > > > > The divine metric: one Shiva equals 5,000 Brahmas. Shiva sings to > > > Brahma while He's dancing: " Anything you can do I can undo better. " > > > > > > There's no waiting for dissolution -- talk about being sated and not > > > knowing it -- you're experiencing dissolution, blessed dissolution, > > > after each thought. God's cleaning up your mental messes as soon as > > > you create them -- just so you can keep on doing yer nervy spit > > > thingy. > > > > > > Now, just when do you plan to give God's Maid Service a well deserved > > > rest? > > > > > > Inquiring minds want to know. > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > > > > > > This is a beautiful insight into the nature of thought. > > > > (as thought watches itself dissolving) > > > > But why is it necessary to attribute it to a creator god? > > > > And if there were such a creature......would his own thoughts be subject > > to the same process? > > > > (Now don't get mean on me..........just wait for awhile until all those > > aggressive thoughts dissolve.) > > > :-) > > > toombaru > > > Edg: I do confess to an inordinate amount of pleasure whacking your moles. > Thanks for the praise -- coming from you after I've been so dismissive of > your posts, well, it's humbling to see someone able to put that aside and > still offer interaction. But, say, now just a damned minute -- you're not > enjoying my mighty smites are ya? Is we an S & M duo? I see another serious seeker and honer that. > > And, yeah, I think God The Creator exists and can be experienced. Yes.......a lot of people do. But then not too long ago a lot of people believed in slavery. Something which the gods of the three major religions extant in the world today have endorsed. > > Every thought you have is BAM a huge miracle, right? No more miraculous than a hummingbird. In that sense....everything is a miracle. And if everything is a miracle the word is meaningless. Miraculous on the basis of the sheer amount of transactions that are the foundation of thought -- 50 Trillion cells in the human body be a buzzin' at all times. Talk about your Cosmic Logistics! Well then the mind that you assume had to design the machinery must be far more complex than anything it could create. How do you explain this exponential intelligence? The attempt to explain something that exceeds the mind's ability to grasp by attributing it to a far more complex entity explains nothing.....but I have to admit......it allows one to put into the assumed known file. > > But miraculous too on the level of " beyond imagination " that physicists > daily must groan under the weight of. The vast majority of physicists are atheists. The belief in a creator god is inversely proportional to the level of education. Ask one of them what a graviton is or how many dimensions there are or what to make of the virtuality of paired opposites underlying the quantum foam, and you'll get a person in a white coat who starts to spout religion atcha on the spot. Baloney. Those few scientists that espouse a belief in a creator god are pariahs and an embarrassment to their departments. > > Thoughts are miracles on soooooo many levels, and, well, someOne's got to > take the blame for creation, and I feel guilt free accusing God, cuz if He > is convicted of the crime, He'll be able to do the time -- and the space > that must go along with it. The belief in God is the fundamental block that stops the search the understanding of self in its tracks. Everything that it can't understand it files in the " God Dune It " bucket and believes that it has a handle on reality. The self uses its imaginary gods to support its illusion of specialness. If there is no such thing as self........what does that say about the god that created it? > > Consider that functionality of the human brain that is getting thoughts > through the backdoor, trotting the thought out of the backroom and putting > it on the counter top for retail sale and pretending that the thought was > manufactured " on the premises. " There's yer God -- a com-link to the > Absolute. Ya never see the Absolute's lips move, but there's God taking > all the credit as he pretends to talk and hands your next thought to you > at the back door. There are many reasons that I don't believe in God. Not the least of which is his refusal to show himself. Explain the suffering in the world. Either God can do something about it or he won't. > > You and God -- what crew, eh? Such a headache these two. > > Edg > Life can be a great joy without a big guy in your head watching your every thought. God is merely a by-product of the fear-based function out of which the sense of personal identity emerged. If there were a God (which there is not a shred of evidence to support).......he is doing a worse job than Obama. I can only hope that he can do a better job in heaven than he has on earth. toombsru No doubt. You still question the existence of a god. You are an pseudo-religious freak.... only half repented. Its like an 5 years old half questioning Santa. -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > toombaru2006 > Nisargadatta > Friday, August 28, 2009 10:30 PM > Re: Acetylcholinesterase is Shiva > > > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Acetylcholinesterase is an enzyme that gobbles up acetylcholine. > > > > > > > > Now you know. > > > > > > > > Go in peace. > > > > > > > > What? You want more words from Edg? > > > > > > > > Well if you're going to badger me I guess I will have to write more. > > > > > > > > Acetylcholinesterase is the chemical that processes acetylcholine into > > > > a couple of pieces and thus stops acetylcholine's activity in the > > > > synapse between neurons. > > > > > > > > So, there, proof that Shiva can be found. > > > > > > > > WTF? Back again? Can't you put two and two together? > > > > > > > > Acetylcholine is created by the nerve cell and spewed into the gap > > > > between nerve endings. This causes the other nerve to send a > > > > chemical-electrical signal down its length. This is the basis of > > > > thought, ya see? If one nerve wants to communicate with another, it > > > > spits at it. Spit words is how yer nerves talk. > > > > > > > > Now, you don't want to repeat yourself, so you have to have a way to > > > > remove the acetylcholine once it's activated the other nerve -- > > > > otherwise its presence will just keep triggering the other nerve, and > > > > that is very very bad. So, get this, one single molecule of > > > > acetylcholinesterase gobbles up to 5,000 molecules of acetylcholine > > > > per second. So Acetylcholinesterase is found EVERYWHERE in the body > > > > just in case some nerve spits -- BAM -- it gets in there and wipes up > > > > the lugey. > > > > > > > > See? > > > > > > > > Okay, I'm outta here, now that you know the truth. > > > > > > > > What? You don't see that Shiva's dance is happening immediately after > > > > each and every thought you have? Are you denying that you have > > > > thoughts once and only once and that they immediately shut up after > > > > they've spoken? > > > > > > > > The divine metric: one Shiva equals 5,000 Brahmas. Shiva sings to > > > > Brahma while He's dancing: " Anything you can do I can undo better. " > > > > > > > > There's no waiting for dissolution -- talk about being sated and not > > > > knowing it -- you're experiencing dissolution, blessed dissolution, > > > > after each thought. God's cleaning up your mental messes as soon as > > > > you create them -- just so you can keep on doing yer nervy spit > > > > thingy. > > > > > > > > Now, just when do you plan to give God's Maid Service a well deserved > > > > rest? > > > > > > > > Inquiring minds want to know. > > > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a beautiful insight into the nature of thought. > > > > > > (as thought watches itself dissolving) > > > > > > But why is it necessary to attribute it to a creator god? > > > > > > And if there were such a creature......would his own thoughts be subject > > > to the same process? > > > > > > (Now don't get mean on me..........just wait for awhile until all those > > > aggressive thoughts dissolve.) > > > > > :-) > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > Edg: I do confess to an inordinate amount of pleasure whacking your moles. > > Thanks for the praise -- coming from you after I've been so dismissive of > > your posts, well, it's humbling to see someone able to put that aside and > > still offer interaction. But, say, now just a damned minute -- you're not > > enjoying my mighty smites are ya? Is we an S & M duo? > > I see another serious seeker and honer that. > > > > > And, yeah, I think God The Creator exists and can be experienced. > > Yes.......a lot of people do. > > But then not too long ago a lot of people believed in slavery. > > Something which the gods of the three major religions extant in the world > today have endorsed. > > > > > Every thought you have is BAM a huge miracle, right? > > No more miraculous than a hummingbird. > In that sense....everything is a miracle. > And if everything is a miracle the word is meaningless. > > Miraculous on the basis of the sheer amount of transactions that are the > foundation of thought -- 50 Trillion cells in the human body be a buzzin' at > all times. Talk about your Cosmic Logistics! > > Well then the mind that you assume had to design the machinery must be far > more complex than anything it could create. > > How do you explain this exponential intelligence? > > The attempt to explain something that exceeds the mind's ability to grasp by > attributing it to a far more complex entity explains nothing.....but I have > to admit......it allows one to put into the assumed known file. > > > > > But miraculous too on the level of " beyond imagination " that physicists > > daily must groan under the weight of. > > The vast majority of physicists are atheists. > The belief in a creator god is inversely proportional to the level of > education. > > Ask one of them what a graviton is or how many dimensions there are or what > to make of the virtuality of paired opposites underlying the quantum foam, > and you'll get a person in a white coat who starts to spout religion atcha > on the spot. > > Baloney. > > Those few scientists that espouse a belief in a creator god are pariahs and > an embarrassment to their departments. > > > > > Thoughts are miracles on soooooo many levels, and, well, someOne's got to > > take the blame for creation, and I feel guilt free accusing God, cuz if He > > is convicted of the crime, He'll be able to do the time -- and the space > > that must go along with it. > > The belief in God is the fundamental block that stops the search the > understanding of self in its tracks. > > Everything that it can't understand it files in the " God Dune It " bucket and > believes that it has a handle on reality. > > The self uses its imaginary gods to support its illusion of specialness. > > If there is no such thing as self........what does that say about the god > that created it? > > > > > Consider that functionality of the human brain that is getting thoughts > > through the backdoor, trotting the thought out of the backroom and putting > > it on the counter top for retail sale and pretending that the thought was > > manufactured " on the premises. " There's yer God -- a com-link to the > > Absolute. Ya never see the Absolute's lips move, but there's God taking > > all the credit as he pretends to talk and hands your next thought to you > > at the back door. > > There are many reasons that I don't believe in God. > Not the least of which is his refusal to show himself. > > Explain the suffering in the world. > > Either God can do something about it or he won't. > > > > > You and God -- what crew, eh? Such a headache these two. > > > > Edg > > > > Life can be a great joy without a big guy in your head watching your every > thought. > > God is merely a by-product of the fear-based function out of which the sense > of personal identity emerged. > > If there were a God (which there is not a shred of evidence to > support).......he is doing a worse job than Obama. > > I can only hope that he can do a better job in heaven than he has on earth. > > toombsru > > No doubt. You still question the existence of a god. You are an > pseudo-religious freak.... only half repented. Its like an 5 years old half > questioning Santa. > -geo- A god that makes things happen is a projection of the volitional entity. Stressing the importance of not believing in god demonstrates a volitional entity that is able to hold onto beliefs or get rid of beliefs. Only when there is no volitional entity experienced anywhere, is psychological conflict ended (because any sense of personal psychology ends). This is not a matter of holding or getting rid of a belief. It is kind of death that is not done by or to a person. It is as if the universe cleared itself of all entities at once, everywhere, and timelessly so. As if the universe rebooted, and was antecedent to its own invention of time and located experiencing. Not by an act of will, but simply by pure being/awareness, spacious, unimpeded. - D - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 29, 2009 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Saturday, August 29, 2009 11:06 AM Re: Acetylcholinesterase is Shiva Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > toombaru2006 > Nisargadatta > Friday, August 28, 2009 10:30 PM > Re: Acetylcholinesterase is Shiva > > > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Acetylcholinesterase is an enzyme that gobbles up acetylcholine. > > > > > > > > Now you know. > > > > > > > > Go in peace. > > > > > > > > What? You want more words from Edg? > > > > > > > > Well if you're going to badger me I guess I will have to write more. > > > > > > > > Acetylcholinesterase is the chemical that processes acetylcholine > > > > into > > > > a couple of pieces and thus stops acetylcholine's activity in the > > > > synapse between neurons. > > > > > > > > So, there, proof that Shiva can be found. > > > > > > > > WTF? Back again? Can't you put two and two together? > > > > > > > > Acetylcholine is created by the nerve cell and spewed into the gap > > > > between nerve endings. This causes the other nerve to send a > > > > chemical-electrical signal down its length. This is the basis of > > > > thought, ya see? If one nerve wants to communicate with another, it > > > > spits at it. Spit words is how yer nerves talk. > > > > > > > > Now, you don't want to repeat yourself, so you have to have a way to > > > > remove the acetylcholine once it's activated the other nerve -- > > > > otherwise its presence will just keep triggering the other nerve, > > > > and > > > > that is very very bad. So, get this, one single molecule of > > > > acetylcholinesterase gobbles up to 5,000 molecules of acetylcholine > > > > per second. So Acetylcholinesterase is found EVERYWHERE in the body > > > > just in case some nerve spits -- BAM -- it gets in there and wipes > > > > up > > > > the lugey. > > > > > > > > See? > > > > > > > > Okay, I'm outta here, now that you know the truth. > > > > > > > > What? You don't see that Shiva's dance is happening immediately > > > > after > > > > each and every thought you have? Are you denying that you have > > > > thoughts once and only once and that they immediately shut up after > > > > they've spoken? > > > > > > > > The divine metric: one Shiva equals 5,000 Brahmas. Shiva sings to > > > > Brahma while He's dancing: " Anything you can do I can undo better. " > > > > > > > > There's no waiting for dissolution -- talk about being sated and not > > > > knowing it -- you're experiencing dissolution, blessed dissolution, > > > > after each thought. God's cleaning up your mental messes as soon as > > > > you create them -- just so you can keep on doing yer nervy spit > > > > thingy. > > > > > > > > Now, just when do you plan to give God's Maid Service a well > > > > deserved > > > > rest? > > > > > > > > Inquiring minds want to know. > > > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a beautiful insight into the nature of thought. > > > > > > (as thought watches itself dissolving) > > > > > > But why is it necessary to attribute it to a creator god? > > > > > > And if there were such a creature......would his own thoughts be > > > subject > > > to the same process? > > > > > > (Now don't get mean on me..........just wait for awhile until all > > > those > > > aggressive thoughts dissolve.) > > > > > :-) > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > Edg: I do confess to an inordinate amount of pleasure whacking your > > moles. > > Thanks for the praise -- coming from you after I've been so dismissive > > of > > your posts, well, it's humbling to see someone able to put that aside > > and > > still offer interaction. But, say, now just a damned minute -- you're > > not > > enjoying my mighty smites are ya? Is we an S & M duo? > > I see another serious seeker and honer that. > > > > > And, yeah, I think God The Creator exists and can be experienced. > > Yes.......a lot of people do. > > But then not too long ago a lot of people believed in slavery. > > Something which the gods of the three major religions extant in the world > today have endorsed. > > > > > Every thought you have is BAM a huge miracle, right? > > No more miraculous than a hummingbird. > In that sense....everything is a miracle. > And if everything is a miracle the word is meaningless. > > Miraculous on the basis of the sheer amount of transactions that are the > foundation of thought -- 50 Trillion cells in the human body be a buzzin' > at > all times. Talk about your Cosmic Logistics! > > Well then the mind that you assume had to design the machinery must be far > more complex than anything it could create. > > How do you explain this exponential intelligence? > > The attempt to explain something that exceeds the mind's ability to grasp > by > attributing it to a far more complex entity explains nothing.....but I > have > to admit......it allows one to put into the assumed known file. > > > > > But miraculous too on the level of " beyond imagination " that physicists > > daily must groan under the weight of. > > The vast majority of physicists are atheists. > The belief in a creator god is inversely proportional to the level of > education. > > Ask one of them what a graviton is or how many dimensions there are or > what > to make of the virtuality of paired opposites underlying the quantum foam, > and you'll get a person in a white coat who starts to spout religion atcha > on the spot. > > Baloney. > > Those few scientists that espouse a belief in a creator god are pariahs > and > an embarrassment to their departments. > > > > > Thoughts are miracles on soooooo many levels, and, well, someOne's got > > to > > take the blame for creation, and I feel guilt free accusing God, cuz if > > He > > is convicted of the crime, He'll be able to do the time -- and the space > > that must go along with it. > > The belief in God is the fundamental block that stops the search the > understanding of self in its tracks. > > Everything that it can't understand it files in the " God Dune It " bucket > and > believes that it has a handle on reality. > > The self uses its imaginary gods to support its illusion of specialness. > > If there is no such thing as self........what does that say about the god > that created it? > > > > > Consider that functionality of the human brain that is getting thoughts > > through the backdoor, trotting the thought out of the backroom and > > putting > > it on the counter top for retail sale and pretending that the thought > > was > > manufactured " on the premises. " There's yer God -- a com-link to the > > Absolute. Ya never see the Absolute's lips move, but there's God taking > > all the credit as he pretends to talk and hands your next thought to you > > at the back door. > > There are many reasons that I don't believe in God. > Not the least of which is his refusal to show himself. > > Explain the suffering in the world. > > Either God can do something about it or he won't. > > > > > You and God -- what crew, eh? Such a headache these two. > > > > Edg > > > > Life can be a great joy without a big guy in your head watching your every > thought. > > God is merely a by-product of the fear-based function out of which the > sense > of personal identity emerged. > > If there were a God (which there is not a shred of evidence to > support).......he is doing a worse job than Obama. > > I can only hope that he can do a better job in heaven than he has on > earth. > > toombsru > > No doubt. You still question the existence of a god. You are an > pseudo-religious freak.... only half repented. Its like an 5 years old > half > questioning Santa. > -geo- A god that makes things happen is a projection of the volitional entity. Stressing the importance of not believing in god demonstrates a volitional entity that is able to hold onto beliefs or get rid of beliefs. Only when there is no volitional entity experienced anywhere, is psychological conflict ended (because any sense of personal psychology ends). This is not a matter of holding or getting rid of a belief. It is kind of death that is not done by or to a person. It is as if the universe cleared itself of all entities at once, everywhere, and timelessly so. As if the universe rebooted, and was antecedent to its own invention of time and located experiencing. Not by an act of will, but simply by pure being/awareness, spacious, unimpeded. - D - To know ones face before birth... or.... to have witnessed ones birth....is death. (how is that? that was funny..) -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 29, 2009 - fewtch Nisargadatta Saturday, August 29, 2009 11:28 AM Re: Acetylcholinesterase is Shiva Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > It is kind of death that is not done by or to a person. > > It is as if the universe cleared itself of all entities at once, > everywhere, and timelessly so. > > As if the universe rebooted, and was antecedent to its own > invention of time and located experiencing. > > Not by an act of will, but simply by pure being/awareness, spacious, > > unimpeded. > > - D - The whole deal was very weird here. Everything got much, much quieter, and the 'rhythm of things' changed utterly. There was a fear for awhile of having died and gone into 'limbo', awaiting final uptake to wherever. Much more was involved, but that's enough story telling. I don't usually talk about this stuff, but since ya brought it up, why not? -t- Nothing dramatic here, no big shocks or events. More like a sequence of deepening quantum steps understanding. The core seems to be the unquenchable thirst to understand the nature of the " I " . After all those " events " are mostly descriptions from the centered perspective....quite meaningless. -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > fewtch > Nisargadatta > Saturday, August 29, 2009 11:28 AM > Re: Acetylcholinesterase is Shiva > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > It is kind of death that is not done by or to a person. > > > > It is as if the universe cleared itself of all entities at once, > > everywhere, and timelessly so. > > > > As if the universe rebooted, and was antecedent to its own > > invention of time and located experiencing. > > > > Not by an act of will, but simply by pure being/awareness, spacious, > > > unimpeded. > > > > - D - > > The whole deal was very weird here. Everything got much, much quieter, and > the 'rhythm of things' changed utterly. There was a fear for awhile of > having died and gone into 'limbo', awaiting final uptake to wherever. > > Much more was involved, but that's enough story telling. I don't usually > talk about this stuff, but since ya brought it up, why not? > -t- > > Nothing dramatic here, no big shocks or events. More like a sequence of > deepening quantum steps understanding. The core seems to be the unquenchable > thirst to understand the nature of the " I " . After all those " events " are > mostly descriptions from the centered perspective....quite meaningless. > -geo- Yes, it's all story-telling, based on memory. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 29, 2009 - fewtch Nisargadatta Saturday, August 29, 2009 11:42 AM Re: Acetylcholinesterase is Shiva Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > fewtch > Nisargadatta > Saturday, August 29, 2009 11:28 AM > Re: Acetylcholinesterase is Shiva > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > It is kind of death that is not done by or to a person. > > > > It is as if the universe cleared itself of all entities at once, > > everywhere, and timelessly so. > > > > As if the universe rebooted, and was antecedent to its own > > invention of time and located experiencing. > > > > Not by an act of will, but simply by pure being/awareness, spacious, > > > unimpeded. > > > > - D - > > The whole deal was very weird here. Everything got much, much quieter, and > the 'rhythm of things' changed utterly. There was a fear for awhile of > having died and gone into 'limbo', awaiting final uptake to wherever. > > Much more was involved, but that's enough story telling. I don't usually > talk about this stuff, but since ya brought it up, why not? > -t- > > Nothing dramatic here, no big shocks or events. More like a sequence of > deepening quantum steps understanding. The core seems to be the > unquenchable > thirst to understand the nature of the " I " . After all those " events " are > mostly descriptions from the centered perspective....quite meaningless. > -geo- Yes, it's all story-telling, based on memory. -t- Yes, just like any other activity in ones day to day life. The dramaticity is an interpretation from the time-bound perspective. It is more important for one to understand the non-importance of those " dramatic " events then the other way around. When one is attaching importance to them is a sign of delusion....holding the stick from the wrong side. -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 29, 2009 - fewtch Nisargadatta Saturday, August 29, 2009 11:57 AM Re: Acetylcholinesterase is Shiva Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > fewtch > Nisargadatta > Saturday, August 29, 2009 11:42 AM > Re: Acetylcholinesterase is Shiva > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > fewtch > > Nisargadatta > > Saturday, August 29, 2009 11:28 AM > > Re: Acetylcholinesterase is Shiva > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > It is kind of death that is not done by or to a person. > > > > > > It is as if the universe cleared itself of all entities at once, > > > everywhere, and timelessly so. > > > > > > As if the universe rebooted, and was antecedent to its own > > > invention of time and located experiencing. > > > > > > Not by an act of will, but simply by pure being/awareness, spacious, > > > > unimpeded. > > > > > > - D - > > > > The whole deal was very weird here. Everything got much, much quieter, > > and > > the 'rhythm of things' changed utterly. There was a fear for awhile of > > having died and gone into 'limbo', awaiting final uptake to wherever. > > > > Much more was involved, but that's enough story telling. I don't usually > > talk about this stuff, but since ya brought it up, why not? > > -t- > > > > Nothing dramatic here, no big shocks or events. More like a sequence of > > deepening quantum steps understanding. The core seems to be the > > unquenchable > > thirst to understand the nature of the " I " . After all those " events " are > > mostly descriptions from the centered perspective....quite meaningless. > > -geo- > > Yes, it's all story-telling, based on memory. > -t- > > Yes, just like any other activity in ones day to day life. The dramaticity > is an interpretation from the time-bound perspective. It is more important > for one to understand the non-importance of those " dramatic " events then > the > other way around. When one is attaching importance to them is a sign of > delusion....holding the stick from the wrong side. > -geo- Talking about it will always tend to look like some sort of bragging, like an entity did something or achieved something -- when the opposite is the case. An entity failed. It is a failure, not an achievement ;-). -t- Two sides to this. For the others - like this forum members - could sound a bit ridiculous, phony, achievement. And to oneslf can be a sign of dellusion, of " getting there " . It is not important. -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 29, 2009 > God is merely a by-product of the fear-based function out of which the sense > of personal identity emerged. > > If there were a God (which there is not a shred of evidence to > support).......he is doing a worse job than Obama. > > I can only hope that he can do a better job in heaven than he has on earth. > > toombaru > > No doubt. You still question the existence of a god. In the same sens that I have serious questions about purple angels on the moon. You are an > pseudo-religious freak.... only half repented. Its like an 5 years old half > questioning Santa. > -geo- > And you don't think that a five year old.....or anyone else......should question a ridiculous belief structure? Do you believe in a creator god geo? toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 29, 2009 - toombaru2006 Nisargadatta Saturday, August 29, 2009 1:17 PM Re: Acetylcholinesterase is Shiva > God is merely a by-product of the fear-based function out of which the > sense > of personal identity emerged. > > If there were a God (which there is not a shred of evidence to > support).......he is doing a worse job than Obama. > > I can only hope that he can do a better job in heaven than he has on > earth. > > toombaru > > No doubt. You still question the existence of a god. In the same sens that I have serious questions about purple angels on the moon. You are an > pseudo-religious freak.... only half repented. Its like an 5 years old > half > questioning Santa. > -geo- > And you don't think that a five year old.....or anyone else......should question a ridiculous belief structure? Do you believe in a creator god geo? toombaru I dont believe in anything at all. Everthing is or is not. What is the need for a belief? But regarding your questionings about god - that is what I meant - like that 5 years old...there are still doubts concerning the issue there. -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 29, 2009 - geo Nisargadatta Saturday, August 29, 2009 1:37 PM Re: Re: Acetylcholinesterase is Shiva - toombaru2006 Nisargadatta Saturday, August 29, 2009 1:17 PM Re: Acetylcholinesterase is Shiva > God is merely a by-product of the fear-based function out of which the > sense > of personal identity emerged. > > If there were a God (which there is not a shred of evidence to > support).......he is doing a worse job than Obama. > > I can only hope that he can do a better job in heaven than he has on > earth. > > toombaru > > No doubt. You still question the existence of a god. In the same sens that I have serious questions about purple angels on the moon. You are an > pseudo-religious freak.... only half repented. Its like an 5 years old > half > questioning Santa. > -geo- > And you don't think that a five year old.....or anyone else......should question a ridiculous belief structure? Do you believe in a creator god geo? toombaru I dont believe in anything at all. Everthing is or is not. What is the need for a belief? But regarding your questionings about god - that is what I meant - like that 5 years old...there are still doubts concerning the issue there. -geo- Toomba, I am regarding this issue in the way you put it. Some god sitting in clouds and rulling our affairs. That is the way you are questining it. Now...one could look at this isue in a more serius tone. That will bring us back to the questions: -Is there an atemporal, spaceless, adimensional, un-thinkable-nothingness? -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > toombaru2006 > Nisargadatta > Saturday, August 29, 2009 1:17 PM > Re: Acetylcholinesterase is Shiva > > > > > God is merely a by-product of the fear-based function out of which the > > sense > > of personal identity emerged. > > > > If there were a God (which there is not a shred of evidence to > > support).......he is doing a worse job than Obama. > > > > I can only hope that he can do a better job in heaven than he has on > > earth. > > > > toombaru > > > > No doubt. You still question the existence of a god. > > In the same sens that I have serious questions about purple angels on the > moon. > > You are an > > pseudo-religious freak.... only half repented. Its like an 5 years old > > half > > questioning Santa. > > -geo- > > > > And you don't think that a five year old.....or anyone else......should > question a ridiculous belief structure? > > Do you believe in a creator god geo? > > toombaru > > I dont believe in anything at all. Is that what you believe? toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 29, 2009 - geo Nisargadatta Saturday, August 29, 2009 1:55 PM Re: Re: Acetylcholinesterase is Shiva - geo Nisargadatta Saturday, August 29, 2009 1:37 PM Re: Re: Acetylcholinesterase is Shiva - toombaru2006 Nisargadatta Saturday, August 29, 2009 1:17 PM Re: Acetylcholinesterase is Shiva > God is merely a by-product of the fear-based function out of which the > sense > of personal identity emerged. > > If there were a God (which there is not a shred of evidence to > support).......he is doing a worse job than Obama. > > I can only hope that he can do a better job in heaven than he has on > earth. > > toombaru > > No doubt. You still question the existence of a god. In the same sens that I have serious questions about purple angels on the moon. You are an > pseudo-religious freak.... only half repented. Its like an 5 years old > half > questioning Santa. > -geo- > And you don't think that a five year old.....or anyone else......should question a ridiculous belief structure? Do you believe in a creator god geo? toombaru I dont believe in anything at all. Everthing is or is not. What is the need for a belief? But regarding your questionings about god - that is what I meant - like that 5 years old...there are still doubts concerning the issue there. -geo- Toomba, I am regarding this issue in the way you put it. Some god sitting in clouds and rulling our affairs. That is the way you are questining it. Now...one could look at this isue in a more serius tone. That will bring us back to the questions: -Is there an atemporal, spaceless, adimensional, un-thinkable-nothingness? And more...questioning at the level youare doing it means that your selfless-state is imagination otherwise you could not put your questionings at that basic level of understanding: the organized religious god as a separate entity. -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 29, 2009 - toombaru2006 Nisargadatta Saturday, August 29, 2009 1:56 PM Re: Acetylcholinesterase is Shiva Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > toombaru2006 > Nisargadatta > Saturday, August 29, 2009 1:17 PM > Re: Acetylcholinesterase is Shiva > > > > > God is merely a by-product of the fear-based function out of which the > > sense > > of personal identity emerged. > > > > If there were a God (which there is not a shred of evidence to > > support).......he is doing a worse job than Obama. > > > > I can only hope that he can do a better job in heaven than he has on > > earth. > > > > toombaru > > > > No doubt. You still question the existence of a god. > > In the same sens that I have serious questions about purple angels on the > moon. > > You are an > > pseudo-religious freak.... only half repented. Its like an 5 years old > > half > > questioning Santa. > > -geo- > > > > And you don't think that a five year old.....or anyone else......should > question a ridiculous belief structure? > > Do you believe in a creator god geo? > > toombaru > > I dont believe in anything at all. Is that what you believe? toombaru I believe that your questioning of a separate god from what you are means that your selflessness is conceptual. How could you question the existence of a god that is not part of the one movement that is? -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > geo > Nisargadatta > Saturday, August 29, 2009 1:55 PM > Re: Re: Acetylcholinesterase is Shiva > > > > - > geo > Nisargadatta > Saturday, August 29, 2009 1:37 PM > Re: Re: Acetylcholinesterase is Shiva > > - > toombaru2006 > Nisargadatta > Saturday, August 29, 2009 1:17 PM > Re: Acetylcholinesterase is Shiva > > > God is merely a by-product of the fear-based function out of which the > > sense > > of personal identity emerged. > > > > If there were a God (which there is not a shred of evidence to > > support).......he is doing a worse job than Obama. > > > > I can only hope that he can do a better job in heaven than he has on > > earth. > > > > toombaru > > > > No doubt. You still question the existence of a god. > > In the same sens that I have serious questions about purple angels on the > moon. > > You are an > > pseudo-religious freak.... only half repented. Its like an 5 years old > > half > > questioning Santa. > > -geo- > > > > And you don't think that a five year old.....or anyone else......should > question a ridiculous belief structure? > > Do you believe in a creator god geo? > > toombaru > > I dont believe in anything at all. Everthing is or is not. What is the need > for a belief? > But regarding your questionings about god - that is what I meant - like that > 5 years old...there are still doubts concerning the issue there. > -geo- > > Toomba, I am regarding this issue in the way you put it. Some god sitting in > clouds and rulling our affairs. That is the way you are questining it. > Now...one could look at this isue in a more serius tone. That will bring us > back to the questions: > -Is there an atemporal, spaceless, adimensional, un-thinkable-nothingness? > > And more...questioning at the level youare doing it means that your > selfless-state is imagination otherwise you could not put your questionings > at that basic level of understanding: the organized religious god as a > separate entity. > -geo- > So.....you not only understand your own imaginary self.....you also understand mine. Impressive. toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > toombaru2006 > Nisargadatta > Saturday, August 29, 2009 1:56 PM > Re: Acetylcholinesterase is Shiva > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > toombaru2006 > > Nisargadatta > > Saturday, August 29, 2009 1:17 PM > > Re: Acetylcholinesterase is Shiva > > > > > > > > > God is merely a by-product of the fear-based function out of which the > > > sense > > > of personal identity emerged. > > > > > > If there were a God (which there is not a shred of evidence to > > > support).......he is doing a worse job than Obama. > > > > > > I can only hope that he can do a better job in heaven than he has on > > > earth. > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > No doubt. You still question the existence of a god. > > > > In the same sens that I have serious questions about purple angels on the > > moon. > > > > You are an > > > pseudo-religious freak.... only half repented. Its like an 5 years old > > > half > > > questioning Santa. > > > -geo- > > > > > > > And you don't think that a five year old.....or anyone else......should > > question a ridiculous belief structure? > > > > Do you believe in a creator god geo? > > > > toombaru > > > > I dont believe in anything at all. > > Is that what you believe? > > toombaru > > I believe that your questioning of a separate god from what you are means > that your selflessness is conceptual. How could you question the existence > of a god that is not part of the one movement that is? > -geo- > So now its pictured as " one movement that is " eh? Well...that's a nice picture to hang in your prison cell. toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 29, 2009 - toombaru2006 Nisargadatta Saturday, August 29, 2009 2:02 PM Re: Acetylcholinesterase is Shiva Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > geo > Nisargadatta > Saturday, August 29, 2009 1:37 PM > Re: Re: Acetylcholinesterase is Shiva > > > > - > toombaru2006 > Nisargadatta > Saturday, August 29, 2009 1:17 PM > Re: Acetylcholinesterase is Shiva > > > God is merely a by-product of the fear-based function out of which the > > sense > > of personal identity emerged. > > > > If there were a God (which there is not a shred of evidence to > > support).......he is doing a worse job than Obama. > > > > I can only hope that he can do a better job in heaven than he has on > > earth. > > > > toombaru > > > > No doubt. You still question the existence of a god. > > In the same sens that I have serious questions about purple angels on the > moon. > > You are an > > pseudo-religious freak.... only half repented. Its like an 5 years old > > half > > questioning Santa. > > -geo- > > > > And you don't think that a five year old.....or anyone else......should > question a ridiculous belief structure? > > Do you believe in a creator god geo? > > toombaru > > I dont believe in anything at all. Everthing is or is not. What is the > need > for a belief? > But regarding your questionings about god - that is what I meant - like > that > 5 years old...there are still doubts concerning the issue there. > -geo- > > Toomba, I am regarding this issue in the way you put it. Some god sitting > in > clouds and rulling our affairs. That is the way you are questining it. > Now...one could look at this isue in a more serius tone. That will bring > us > back to the questions: > -Is there an atemporal, spaceless, adimensional, un-thinkable-nothingness? > -geo- > Actually there isn't. Mind needs to convert its perceptual input into objects in order to " picture " reality. It them mistakes the named objects for reality. Its only reality is its own map. No wonder if feels a little lost and invents a god to help it out. toombaru Yes that happens indeed. But how could I invent a god that is not part of what is here. Would that god be somewhere out there? But...so...there is not the timeless? -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 29, 2009 - toombaru2006 Nisargadatta Saturday, August 29, 2009 2:03 PM Re: Acetylcholinesterase is Shiva Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > geo > Nisargadatta > Saturday, August 29, 2009 1:55 PM > Re: Re: Acetylcholinesterase is Shiva > > > > - > geo > Nisargadatta > Saturday, August 29, 2009 1:37 PM > Re: Re: Acetylcholinesterase is Shiva > > - > toombaru2006 > Nisargadatta > Saturday, August 29, 2009 1:17 PM > Re: Acetylcholinesterase is Shiva > > > God is merely a by-product of the fear-based function out of which the > > sense > > of personal identity emerged. > > > > If there were a God (which there is not a shred of evidence to > > support).......he is doing a worse job than Obama. > > > > I can only hope that he can do a better job in heaven than he has on > > earth. > > > > toombaru > > > > No doubt. You still question the existence of a god. > > In the same sens that I have serious questions about purple angels on the > moon. > > You are an > > pseudo-religious freak.... only half repented. Its like an 5 years old > > half > > questioning Santa. > > -geo- > > > > And you don't think that a five year old.....or anyone else......should > question a ridiculous belief structure? > > Do you believe in a creator god geo? > > toombaru > > I dont believe in anything at all. Everthing is or is not. What is the > need > for a belief? > But regarding your questionings about god - that is what I meant - like > that > 5 years old...there are still doubts concerning the issue there. > -geo- > > Toomba, I am regarding this issue in the way you put it. Some god sitting > in > clouds and rulling our affairs. That is the way you are questining it. > Now...one could look at this isue in a more serius tone. That will bring > us > back to the questions: > -Is there an atemporal, spaceless, adimensional, un-thinkable-nothingness? > > And more...questioning at the level youare doing it means that your > selfless-state is imagination otherwise you could not put your > questionings > at that basic level of understanding: the organized religious god as a > separate entity. > -geo- > So.....you not only understand your own imaginary self.....you also understand mine. Impressive. toombaru Nothing mystic. All imaginary selfs are very similar. Wordsspoken/writen implicitly gives us a picture -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
