Guest guest Report post Posted August 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > wwoehr > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:54 AM > > > > Re: The Absolute > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > what is " groking of the ground of being " ?.... > > > > > -dt- > > > > > > > > > > Being the unchanging ground of the changing. > > > > > -geo > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no unchanging ground. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > OK > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Being is the unchanging ground of dissolution. > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > this one is nice....realy..... > > > > thanks > > > > > > Marc > > > > > It's a *keeper* then? > > ~A > a " keeper " ? Marc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > dennis_travis33 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, August 26, 2009 3:53 AM > > > Re: The Absolute > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Tuesday, August 25, 2009 5:01 PM > > > > Re: The Absolute > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I put all the states and all the capitols on the list. > > > > > > > > > > I put all the countries and all the cities that I can remember. > > > > > > > > > > I include the rives and the oceans. > > > > > > > > > > I list all the animals that science has named. > > > > > > > > > > I try to remember everything that I learned in school and everything > > > > > that > > > > > my teachers and parents told me. > > > > > > > > > > My list is over five thousand pages long. > > > > > > > > > > I think that once I get the other things listed that it won't be long > > > > > before I will be able to see the Absolute. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > the absolute will never allow you to know all this things.... > > > > > > > > the whole list is shown daily....during deep sleep at night.... > > > > > > > > and, ....of course, to the united enlightented great non-dualists, > > > > constantly.....lol > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > I dont think that consciousness must be seen sequentially, but spread out > > > > flat as a whole instead. Not flat at all of course, but this > > > > non-dimensional > > > > luminous conditioned manifestation in the infinite unlimited dark saloon. > > > > :>)) > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > some take " the absolute " for " the consciousness " ..... > > > > > > how could the absolute have a moving and restless consciousness....?.... > > > > > > ridiculous > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > It was from nis. that I first read the possibility of the two situations. > > > First, I am all, I am consciousness. In this situation, indeed, consciusness > > > is all movement and I am it. I think the majority of the non-dualists belong > > > to this group. The second situation is the groking of the ground of being. > > > -geo- > > > > > > > what is " groking of the ground of being " ?.... > > > > ... > > > > consciousness is related to whatever identity.....looking/being at whatever world..... > > > > everything/everybody is related and connected to each by such consciousness > > > > it's a very simple relation/conncetion...and explanation of Oneness.... > > > > ... > > > > indeed, for some non-dual freaks....that's It...already. > > > > ... > > > > they are simply running after their more or less deep intiution/inspirations they get ....as being a part of the whole.....acting/reacting.... " just like that " ....without any reasons etc....and, of course, without having any " ego " etc......bla bla bla > > > > .... > > > > easy...and indeed, a very simple way and path...in order to remain ignorant....for infinite times. > > > > ... > > > > > > Marc > > > Marc - > > There is no " they " who can remain ignorant. Nor will there ever be. > > > > There is only Marc's construction of " they. " > > For whatever purpose that serves for Marc. > > > If Marc is not being constructed, " they " are not there. > > > If Dan is not being constructed, there is no " they " for Dan. > > > If Dan is constructed, there is automatically a " they " - because for Dan to be Dan, there is a relation to " they " who are not Dan, and a world that is not Dan. > > > So, to construct Dan is for " them " to appear, and " the world " to appear, and " the experiences through which Dan is constructed " to appear. > > It's funny, because " Dan " is never really constructed. > > Dan is referenced as someone who was constructed, but Dan never actually is present. > > > That is really funny - because I can't find Dan, his world, or his " they " anywhere. > > They are always in an imaginary " there, " and never " here. " > > You may call " here " the absolute. > > I know Nisargadatta did. > > > But that is silly. > > Here has no name for itself, not even " here " let alone " absolute. " > > > Here never constructed itself, and thus never had a " they " to talk to. > > > So, another thing that's funny is conversing. > > > We're having all these conversations back and forth, from me to you and you to me. > > > But even though it's fun, it's not convincing me that there is any you or me. > > > > > - Dan - > you talk like having nightmares....with each words, statements, messages etc.....the construction of " Dan " is reading.... cool down, " Dan " .... you aren't this your construction " Dan " ... just like i'm not this construction of " Marc " .... cool, Dan.... .... and hey.... the word " ignorance " wouldn't exist....if there weren't any relation to It.... just the word " elefant " ..... " pride " ..... " happiness " ... .... be cool, Dan... " you " and " me " never have been for real... except on some appearent screens....for a while.... .... Marc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
