Guest guest Report post Posted June 12, 2009 Dear Max, Definately yes.if you want a satvic mind then Bhagavan stressed the need for a vegetarian diet. He also said that smoking was bad for meditation. He gave up taking snuff when he saw fish dying by a nicotania plant. He realised it was tamastic. All best wishes in your quest, Alan--- On Fri, 12/6/09, maxamehc <maxamehc wrote: maxamehc <maxamehc Food Date: Friday, 12 June, 2009, 7:51 AM Does it really matter what kinds of foods we take in if we are not truely touched by any of it?? smoking etc.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 12, 2009 Hi Alan, Thanks heaps, where can I find the story about the fish?? , Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs wrote: > > Dear Max, > > Definately yes.if you want a satvic mind then Bhagavan stressed the need for a vegetarian diet. He also said that smoking was bad for meditation. He gave up taking snuff when he saw fish dying by a nicotania plant. He realised it was tamastic. All best wishes in your quest, > Alan > > --- On Fri, 12/6/09, maxamehc <maxamehc wrote: > > > maxamehc <maxamehc > Food > > Friday, 12 June, 2009, 7:51 AM > > > Does it really matter what kinds of foods we take in if we are not truely touched by any of it?? smoking etc.... > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 12, 2009 Dear Max, I cannot remember, but Gabriel Ebert, on this site, one of his Biographers probably knows. Regards, Alan--- On Fri, 12/6/09, maxamehc <maxamehc wrote: maxamehc <maxamehcRe: Food Date: Friday, 12 June, 2009, 8:16 AM Hi Alan,Thanks heaps, where can I find the story about the fish??, Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Max,> > Definately yes.if you want a satvic mind then Bhagavan stressed the need for a vegetarian diet. He also said that smoking was bad for meditation. He gave up taking snuff when he saw fish dying by a nicotania plant. He realised it was tamastic. All best wishes in your quest,> Alan> > --- On Fri, 12/6/09, maxamehc <maxamehc@.. .> wrote:> > > maxamehc <maxamehc@.. .>> Food> > Friday, 12 June, 2009, 7:51 AM> > > > > > > > > > Does it really matter what kinds of foods we take in if we are not truely touched by any of it?? smoking etc....> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 12, 2009 Hi, What does the Maharaj say about the foods one should eat & drink? If the spirit is untouched by activity then would it matter what our intake is?? smoking etc.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 12, 2009 Nisargadatta , " maxamehc " <maxamehc wrote: > > Hi, > What does the Maharaj say about the foods one should eat & drink? If the spirit is untouched by activity then would it matter what our intake is?? smoking etc.... > You alreeady have answered your question. Werner Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 12, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " maxamehc " <maxamehc@> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > What does the Maharaj say about the foods one should eat & drink? If the spirit is untouched by activity then would it matter what our intake is?? smoking etc.... > > > > > You alreeady have answered your question. > > Werner yeah what's the matter with you? werner has a point. as he always does. it's on the top of what goes for his head. and what the hell does " alreeady " mean? oh these fucking geniuses have a way with words. ..b b.b. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 12, 2009 Yes but some would say that to have a satvic mind for awareness/realisation one would do well to keep the 'instrument' functioning smoothely. Your thoughts?? > You alreeady have answered your question. > > Werner > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 12, 2009 who's the one that's supposed to keep the works going smoothly? by who's judgment is the functioning deemed smooth running? who's asking the useless questions? what are you doing tomorrow? where are your kids right now? are your bills up to date? are you discovering your " self " ? is life worthwhile? what the fuck is going on. i need to shit. then let's take a walk. what's for dinner? ..b b.b. Nisargadatta , " maxamehc " <maxamehc wrote: > > Yes but some would say that to have a satvic mind for awareness/realisation one would do well to keep the 'instrument' functioning smoothely. > Your thoughts?? > > > > You alreeady have answered your question. > > > > Werner > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 12, 2009 ah, I see what you mean...... or do 'I' really?? hahaha lol so upon realising our pure spirit-state(that which we already are) we no longer have to strive for things, but wouldn't you agree that in order to realise the self-realised the active mind must first be coaxed or made to become still & then only can the seeker/questioner/judge abandon all mind activity? > who's the one that's supposed to keep the works going smoothly? > > by who's judgment is the functioning deemed smooth running? > > who's asking the useless questions? > > what are you doing tomorrow? > > where are your kids right now? > > are your bills up to date? > > are you discovering your " self " ? > > is life worthwhile? > > what the fuck is going on. > > i need to shit. > > then let's take a walk. > > what's for dinner? > > .b b.b. Nisargadatta , " maxamehc " <maxamehc@> wrote: > > > > Yes but some would say that to have a satvic mind for awareness/realisation one would do well to keep the 'instrument' functioning smoothely. > > Your thoughts?? > > > > > > > You alreeady have answered your question. > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 12, 2009 it can't be coaxed nor " made " to stand still. there is nothing to abandon. there is no one to " do " abandoning " . what it is? right now? what comes naturally without question is the deal.. the ONLY deal. ..b b.b. >Nisargadatta , " maxamehc " <maxamehc wrote: > > > ah, I see what you mean...... or do 'I' really?? hahaha lol > > so upon realising our pure spirit-state(that which we already are) we no longer have to strive for things, but wouldn't you agree that in order to realise the self-realised the active mind must first be coaxed or made to become still & then only can the seeker/questioner/judge abandon all mind activity? > > > > who's the one that's supposed to keep the works going smoothly? > > > > by who's judgment is the functioning deemed smooth running? > > > > who's asking the useless questions? > > > > what are you doing tomorrow? > > > > where are your kids right now? > > > > are your bills up to date? > > > > are you discovering your " self " ? > > > > is life worthwhile? > > > > what the fuck is going on. > > > > i need to shit. > > > > then let's take a walk. > > > > what's for dinner? > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " maxamehc " <maxamehc@> wrote: > > > > > > Yes but some would say that to have a satvic mind for awareness/realisation one would do well to keep the 'instrument' functioning smoothely. > > > Your thoughts?? > > > > > > > > > > You alreeady have answered your question. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 12, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > it can't be coaxed nor " made " to stand still. > > there is nothing to abandon. > > there is no one to " do " abandoning " . > > what it is? > > right now? " It " ... hehehe ;-). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 12, 2009 Nisargadatta , " maxamehc " <maxamehc wrote: > > Yes but some would say that to have a satvic mind for awareness/realisation one would do well to keep the 'instrument' functioning smoothely. > Your thoughts?? > > > > You alreeady have answered your question. > > > > Werner > > > Max, Maybe the whole idea of awareness/realization itself is just a hoax as well as the belief that in a healthy body there also must be a healthy mind which the Greeks believed in and which was the origin of the Olympic idea. Do you think that a sportive vegetarian has a better chance to reach realization (whatever that means) than a lifelong smoker like Maharaj ? Werner And how would you know if Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 12, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > > Maybe the whole idea of awareness/realization itself is just a hoax It's ignorance/un-realization that's the hoax ;-). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 12, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " maxamehc " <maxamehc@> wrote: > > > > Yes but some would say that to have a satvic mind for awareness/realisation one would do well to keep the 'instrument' functioning smoothely. > > Your thoughts?? > > > > > > > You alreeady have answered your question. > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > Max, > > Maybe the whole idea of awareness/realization itself is just a hoax as well as the belief that in a healthy body there also must be a healthy mind which the Greeks believed in and which was the origin of the Olympic idea. > > Do you think that a sportive vegetarian has a better chance to reach realization (whatever that means) than a lifelong smoker like Maharaj ? > > Werner > > And how would you know if well second things first here. i know if from way back. that's how i would know if. everything's a hoax. nobody has a chance of realizing diddly squat. and nobody's the only nobody which can not realize.. by not doing so that it doesn't " see " . it's a hot pepper for sure. inhale deep and hold it tight. Poof! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 13, 2009 > yeah what's the matter with you? > > werner has a point. > > as he always does. > > it's on the top of what goes for his head. > > and what the hell does " alreeady " mean? > > oh these fucking geniuses have a way with words. > > .b b.b. > > .b b.b. yeah but one can go around all day repeating " I am the Self " & " who is asking the useless questions? " but without having that total awareness of that 'being-ness' how can he 'leave' himself off illusion & come to understand & know THAT he is?? your above question supports this when you ask ->> What's the matter with me?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 13, 2009 Nisargadatta , " maxamehc " <maxamehc wrote: > > > > yeah what's the matter with you? > > > > werner has a point. > > > > as he always does. > > > > it's on the top of what goes for his head. > > > > and what the hell does " alreeady " mean? > > > > oh these fucking geniuses have a way with words. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > .b b.b. > > yeah but one can go around all day repeating " I am the Self " & " who is asking the useless questions? " but without having that total awareness of that 'being-ness' how can he 'leave' himself off illusion & come to understand & know THAT he is?? your above question supports this when you ask ->> What's the matter with me?? what's the matter with you? what the fuck is a self? it's not wanted nor needed nor actual. it has no " beingness " . one can go around all day because.. what the fuck else is there to do? you're going around in circles asking shit like that. so fuck off and remember the Alamo. it's a losin' battle Gillis. it's over done kaput. it never started. piss on it. love.. ..b b.b. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 13, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " maxamehc " <maxamehc@> wrote: > > > > > > > yeah what's the matter with you? > > > > > > werner has a point. > > > > > > as he always does. > > > > > > it's on the top of what goes for his head. > > > > > > and what the hell does " alreeady " mean? > > > > > > oh these fucking geniuses have a way with words. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > yeah but one can go around all day repeating " I am the Self " & " who is asking the useless questions? " but without having that total awareness of that 'being-ness' how can he 'leave' himself off illusion & come to understand & know THAT he is?? your above question supports this when you ask ->> What's the matter with me?? > > > > what's the matter with you? > > what the fuck is a self? > > it's not wanted nor needed nor actual. > > it has no " beingness " . > > one can go around all day because.. > > what the fuck else is there to do? > > you're going around in circles asking shit like that. > > so fuck off and remember the Alamo. > > it's a losin' battle Gillis. > > it's over done kaput. > > it never started. > > piss on it. > > love.. > > .b b.b. > > .b b.b. > To get to the love, you have to wade through all the bullshit. And think not *You* (collectively) haven't doled it out in spades. *You* haven't always been a nice guy, a pretty boy. That's the self *I'm* talking about. ~A Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 13, 2009 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " maxamehc " <maxamehc@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > yeah what's the matter with you? > > > > > > > > werner has a point. > > > > > > > > as he always does. > > > > > > > > it's on the top of what goes for his head. > > > > > > > > and what the hell does " alreeady " mean? > > > > > > > > oh these fucking geniuses have a way with words. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > yeah but one can go around all day repeating " I am the Self " & " who is asking the useless questions? " but without having that total awareness of that 'being-ness' how can he 'leave' himself off illusion & come to understand & know THAT he is?? your above question supports this when you ask ->> What's the matter with me?? > > > > > > > > what's the matter with you? > > > > what the fuck is a self? > > > > it's not wanted nor needed nor actual. > > > > it has no " beingness " . > > > > one can go around all day because.. > > > > what the fuck else is there to do? > > > > you're going around in circles asking shit like that. > > > > so fuck off and remember the Alamo. > > > > it's a losin' battle Gillis. > > > > it's over done kaput. > > > > it never started. > > > > piss on it. > > > > love.. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > To get to the love, you have to wade through all the bullshit. > > And think not *You* (collectively) haven't doled it out in spades. > > *You* haven't always been a nice guy, a pretty boy. That's the self *I'm* talking about. > > ~A no problem. don't give it a thought. don't even think about not thinking about it. i don't... and what better non-role model for nobody? ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 13, 2009 > > > yeah what's the matter with you? > > > > > > werner has a point. > > > > > > as he always does. > > > > > > it's on the top of what goes for his head. > > > > > > and what the hell does " alreeady " mean? > > > > > > oh these fucking geniuses have a way with words. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > yeah but one can go around all day repeating " I am the Self " & " who is asking the useless questions? " but without having that total awareness of that 'being-ness' how can he 'leave' himself off illusion & come to understand & know THAT he is?? your above question supports this when you ask ->> What's the matter with me?? > > > > what's the matter with you? > > what the fuck is a self? > > it's not wanted nor needed nor actual. > > it has no " beingness " . > > one can go around all day because.. > > what the fuck else is there to do? > > you're going around in circles asking shit like that. > > so fuck off and remember the Alamo. > > it's a losin' battle Gillis. > > it's over done kaput. > > it never started. > > piss on it. > > love.. > > .b b.b. > > .b b.b. > my point exactly! the self I'm talking about is that which knows THAT IT IS & not that which thinks & creates a concept of what it thinks it is... sheesh, didn't mean to put a hassle in your Hasslehoff! never heard of the alamo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 13, 2009 - maxamehc Nisargadatta Saturday, June 13, 2009 8:47 AM Re: Food > > > yeah what's the matter with you? > > > > > > werner has a point. > > > > > > as he always does. > > > > > > it's on the top of what goes for his head. > > > > > > and what the hell does " alreeady " mean? > > > > > > oh these fucking geniuses have a way with words. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > yeah but one can go around all day repeating " I am the Self " & " who is > > asking the useless questions? " but without having that total awareness > > of that 'being-ness' how can he 'leave' himself off illusion & come to > > understand & know THAT he is?? your above question supports this when > > you ask ->> What's the matter with me?? > > > > what's the matter with you? > > what the fuck is a self? > > it's not wanted nor needed nor actual. > > it has no " beingness " . > > one can go around all day because.. > > what the fuck else is there to do? > > you're going around in circles asking shit like that. > > so fuck off and remember the Alamo. > > it's a losin' battle Gillis. > > it's over done kaput. > > it never started. > > piss on it. > > love.. > > .b b.b. > > .b b.b. > my point exactly! the self I'm talking about is that which knows THAT IT IS & not that which thinks & creates a concept of what it thinks it is... sheesh, didn't mean to put a hassle in your Hasslehoff! never heard of the alamo geo> The problem becomes subtle. Some will say 'all is that'... but there is conceptualization. I think from this point onwards you will have to be honest and check wether you are objectivating a " ground - or Self as you call it " in any away. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 13, 2009 > > > yeah what's the matter with you? > > > > > > werner has a point. > > > > > > as he always does. > > > > > > it's on the top of what goes for his head. > > > > > > and what the hell does " alreeady " mean? > > > > > > oh these fucking geniuses have a way with words. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > yeah but one can go around all day repeating " I am the Self " & " who is > > asking the useless questions? " but without having that total awareness > > of that 'being-ness' how can he 'leave' himself off illusion & come to > > understand & know THAT he is?? your above question supports this when > > you ask ->> What's the matter with me?? > > > > what's the matter with you? > > what the fuck is a self? > > it's not wanted nor needed nor actual. > > it has no " beingness " . > > one can go around all day because.. > > what the fuck else is there to do? > > you're going around in circles asking shit like that. > > so fuck off and remember the Alamo. > > it's a losin' battle Gillis. > > it's over done kaput. > > it never started. > > piss on it. > > love.. > > .b b.b. > > .b b.b. > my point exactly! the self I'm talking about is that which knows THAT IT IS & not that which thinks & creates a concept of what it thinks it is... sheesh, didn't mean to put a hassle in your Hasslehoff! never heard of the alamo geo> The problem becomes subtle. Some will say 'all is that'... but there is conceptualization. I think from this point onwards you will have to be honest and check wether you are objectivating a " ground - or Self as you call it " in any away. The same with the " continuity " problem. Although I am aware that this question is form a temporal point of wiew, I cant avoid perceiving that people will say " of course it is always there, because, or after all, or tink about it.... but the bugg may be there: the honest but inocent dive into the conceptual world, an attempt to justify, to convince oneself that IT is alway there BECAUSE.... This becomes more difficult to overcome AS A DIALOGUE because we are all very skilled, very smart with these words, with these fractal concepts and the difference between conceptual and non-conceptual is quite easy to hide. Not always though. I am talking here about DIALOGUES. In othere words - any bottom line, if any - is always here and here and here..... " otheres " is just a game we play. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 13, 2009 Nisargadatta , " maxamehc " <maxamehc wrote: > > > > > > yeah what's the matter with you? > > > > > > > > werner has a point. > > > > > > > > as he always does. > > > > > > > > it's on the top of what goes for his head. > > > > > > > > and what the hell does " alreeady " mean? > > > > > > > > oh these fucking geniuses have a way with words. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > yeah but one can go around all day repeating " I am the Self " & " who is asking the useless questions? " but without having that total awareness of that 'being-ness' how can he 'leave' himself off illusion & come to understand & know THAT he is?? your above question supports this when you ask ->> What's the matter with me?? > > > > > > > > what's the matter with you? > > > > what the fuck is a self? > > > > it's not wanted nor needed nor actual. > > > > it has no " beingness " . > > > > one can go around all day because.. > > > > what the fuck else is there to do? > > > > you're going around in circles asking shit like that. > > > > so fuck off and remember the Alamo. > > > > it's a losin' battle Gillis. > > > > it's over done kaput. > > > > it never started. > > > > piss on it. > > > > love.. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > my point exactly! the self I'm talking about is that which knows THAT IT IS & not that which thinks & creates a concept of what it thinks it is... sheesh, didn't mean to put a hassle in your Hasslehoff! > > never heard of the alamo it's not my hassle. you asked what the matter with you was. THAT was your point. it's at the end of that pathetic posting. what the fuck did you ask for if not for an answer? when werner asked that same thing.. the answers were to numerous to write out. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 13, 2009 > > > > > > > yeah what's the matter with you? > > > > > > > > werner has a point. > > > > > > > > as he always does. > > > > > > > > it's on the top of what goes for his head. > > > > > > > > and what the hell does " alreeady " mean? > > > > > > > > oh these fucking geniuses have a way with words. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > yeah but one can go around all day repeating " I am the Self " & " who is > > > asking the useless questions? " but without having that total awareness > > > of that 'being-ness' how can he 'leave' himself off illusion & come to > > > understand & know THAT he is?? your above question supports this when > > > you ask ->> What's the matter with me?? > > > > > > > > what's the matter with you? > > > > what the fuck is a self? > > > > it's not wanted nor needed nor actual. > > > > it has no " beingness " . > > > > one can go around all day because.. > > > > what the fuck else is there to do? > > > > you're going around in circles asking shit like that. > > > > so fuck off and remember the Alamo. > > > > it's a losin' battle Gillis. > > > > it's over done kaput. > > > > it never started. > > > > piss on it. > > > > love.. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > my point exactly! the self I'm talking about is that which knows THAT IT IS > & not that which thinks & creates a concept of what it thinks it is... > sheesh, didn't mean to put a hassle in your Hasslehoff! > > never heard of the alamo > > geo> The problem becomes subtle. Some will say 'all is that'... but there is > conceptualization. I think from this point onwards you will have to be > honest and check wether you are objectivating a " ground - or Self as you > call it " in any away. > It's not possible for anybody not to 'objectivate' when talking or attempting to write about the inexplicable no-thing. some, too would say that the mind can't be stilled & then say to think nothing, which to me is saying the same thing. Even pissing on it is an act which involves mental co-ordination. True that this thing/self cannot be given a label, name, stamp, Lao Tzu, Jesus etc all new this, we know this but what do you suggest I type in it's place geo? You'll probably say 'nothing' which would be the most accurate approach, but then again we all like engage for whatever reason, otherwise we wouldn't all be here. If we were all being honest with ourselves none of us would give a rats 'you know what' about being here & all of us would be silent - so......... a BIG shout out to all the dishonest people here who preach honesty & truth to all!!!! auee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 13, 2009 > > > > > > > yeah what's the matter with you? > > > > > > > > > > werner has a point. > > > > > > > > > > as he always does. > > > > > > > > > > it's on the top of what goes for his head. > > > > > > > > > > and what the hell does " alreeady " mean? > > > > > > > > > > oh these fucking geniuses have a way with words. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > yeah but one can go around all day repeating " I am the Self " & " who is asking the useless questions? " but without having that total awareness of that 'being-ness' how can he 'leave' himself off illusion & come to understand & know THAT he is?? your above question supports this when you ask ->> What's the matter with me?? > > > > > > > > > > > > what's the matter with you? > > > > > > what the fuck is a self? > > > > > > it's not wanted nor needed nor actual. > > > > > > it has no " beingness " . > > > > > > one can go around all day because.. > > > > > > what the fuck else is there to do? > > > > > > you're going around in circles asking shit like that. > > > > > > so fuck off and remember the Alamo. > > > > > > it's a losin' battle Gillis. > > > > > > it's over done kaput. > > > > > > it never started. > > > > > > piss on it. > > > > > > love.. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > my point exactly! the self I'm talking about is that which knows THAT IT IS & not that which thinks & creates a concept of what it thinks it is... sheesh, didn't mean to put a hassle in your Hasslehoff! > > > > never heard of the alamo > > > it's not my hassle. > > you asked what the matter with you was. > > THAT was your point. > > it's at the end of that pathetic posting. > > what the fuck did you ask for if not for an answer? > > when werner asked that same thing.. > > the answers were to numerous to write out. > Hold on Nelly, go back further. You asked me in your first post addressed to me. So numerous that you forgot what you had written Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 13, 2009 - maxamehc Nisargadatta Saturday, June 13, 2009 9:33 AM Re: Food > > > > > > > yeah what's the matter with you? > > > > > > > > werner has a point. > > > > > > > > as he always does. > > > > > > > > it's on the top of what goes for his head. > > > > > > > > and what the hell does " alreeady " mean? > > > > > > > > oh these fucking geniuses have a way with words. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > yeah but one can go around all day repeating " I am the Self " & " who is > > > asking the useless questions? " but without having that total awareness > > > of that 'being-ness' how can he 'leave' himself off illusion & come to > > > understand & know THAT he is?? your above question supports this when > > > you ask ->> What's the matter with me?? > > > > > > > > what's the matter with you? > > > > what the fuck is a self? > > > > it's not wanted nor needed nor actual. > > > > it has no " beingness " . > > > > one can go around all day because.. > > > > what the fuck else is there to do? > > > > you're going around in circles asking shit like that. > > > > so fuck off and remember the Alamo. > > > > it's a losin' battle Gillis. > > > > it's over done kaput. > > > > it never started. > > > > piss on it. > > > > love.. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > my point exactly! the self I'm talking about is that which knows THAT IT > IS > & not that which thinks & creates a concept of what it thinks it is... > sheesh, didn't mean to put a hassle in your Hasslehoff! > > never heard of the alamo > > geo> The problem becomes subtle. Some will say 'all is that'... but there > is > conceptualization. I think from this point onwards you will have to be > honest and check wether you are objectivating a " ground - or Self as you > call it " in any away. > It's not possible for anybody not to 'objectivate' when talking or attempting to write about the inexplicable no-thing. g> Words may come from THAT - then it depends on the reader. ... some, too would say that the mind can't be stilled & then say to think nothing, which to me is saying the same thing. Even pissing on it is an act which involves mental co-ordination. g> Now this is a mystake, a miss-conception. Mental co-ordination is a natural function of the organism. In fact it works much better without the inner imagined center. The problem is not mental work but the feeling of inner entity. ....True that this thing/self cannot be given a label, name, stamp, Lao Tzu, Jesus etc all new this, we know this but what do you suggest I type in it's place geo? You'll probably say 'nothing' which would be the most accurate approach, but then again we all like engage for whatever reason, otherwise we wouldn't all be here. If we were all being honest with ourselves none of us would give a rats 'you know what' about being here & all of us would be silent - so......... a BIG shout out to all the dishonest people here who preach honesty & truth to all!!!! auee g> You can be here in order to look at yourself. Dont be fooled....if there is an ego...it will probably come out here. A BIG shout to MY disonesty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
