impersonallity of enlightenment

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Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge

wrote:

>

> Good morning Marc, my dear!

>

> As I can see

> You like to keep the wheel turning

> It turns as long as it is turned

> To see this mechanism

> Is " spirituality " .

> All spirituality there is.

>

> Fighting against egos...

> What does one gain?

> Lets enjoy our egos

> as long as we still have them

> Lets watch their reflections

> In the others face

> Because this is all there is

> Out there... reflections...

>

> Or be silent

> A goat is mourning

> A bird is singing

> What a day!

>

> Stefan

>

>

.....

 

wish a nice day

 

 

Marc

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Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba "

> <Roberibus111@> wrote:

>

> >hahahaaaaaaaa!

>

> I am happy that someone here at least found his humor.

> It is on a pretty low level,

> But at least it sounds like laughter.

>

> It was amazing watching you guys falling

> Into your - so predictable - reactions

> (Only through simple mimic!)

>

> I just wonder, where are you all gone

> You grown ups?

>

> Stefan

>

 

 

Hi Stefan,

 

Those guys already are grown ups. But it seems that you own an ideal

how a grown up should act like and look like.

 

One's personal past aleady started started intrauterine and built up

more and more layers of stored experiences, hurts and their defenses,

humiliations and their compensations, self-defenses and their way of

fighting, likes and dislikes, the cunning survival strategies

reflected in greed, ambition and vanity, etc, etc. And many more ...

 

To demand to grow up from a person who's childhood at the moment got

active, is in vain. No one can decondition him or herself and to be

different than one actually is.

 

Btw, good that you are here, Stefan.

 

Werner

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Nisargadatta , " Bob " <rgcbob wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba "

> <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

> > >

> > > >i don't care at all....the reason....

> > > >whatever " you " are doing in life...

> > >

> > > Well, this is maybe wise, but it also makes me feel sorry. You dont

> > > care for others, you do not want to be cared... you must be lonely.

> > > Well, I also sometimes feel lonely, but not often. At least at the

> > > moment not. I am 52 years old, a composer / musician and I live

> > > Greece. We have terrible fires here, many people lost their lives,

> > > many more their homes. Where do you live? Since you are posting that

> > > time of the day I suppose you are not living in the US? What

else are

> > > you doing besides posting here?

> > >

> > > Stefan

> >

> >

> > gosh you are a sorry thing aren't you?

> >

> > what else do you do but sing the blues?

> >

> > " i've seen fire and i've seen rain.

> >

> > i've seen sunny days i thought would never end. "

> >

> > (thnx mr. j. taylor)

> >

> > and i see your compassion for the land and folks of greece..

> >

> > you mention them briefly then move on to unctuous questions.

> >

> > such a 'caring' guy!

> >

> > that's not wise nor sorrowful.

> >

> > that's just plain smarmy bullshit.

> >

> > is your music this phony?

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> Look at that!

> b.b.b. judging.

> What judges but ego?

> What critizes but ego?

> What beside egos must maintain superiority?

> What beside egos must attack to maintain superiority?

> Not surprising... the little self of b.b.b. is not integrous.

> His drivel reveals this.

> But not b.b.b.'s fault.

> Totality in the form of b.b.b.chose to be ignorant

> of his true Self. And his mind can't transcend itself to understand

> this.

> No accident. Everything Is at it Is and unfolds perfectly.

> While b.b.b.s caustic drivel is beyond his conscious awareness,

> it is nonetheless Totality acting through b.b.b. - including his

> so-called ego.

>

> In the phenomenal world of duality... b.b.b. is no less a sensory

> instrument of Totality than any other body/mind entity. And try as he

> might, the realization of his divinity cannot happen by his volition.

> Should b.b.b one moment see the light... it will only be by Divine

> Providence... even though ego will make every attempt to take credit.

>

> Let's all watch how b.b.b.'s intellect reacts to this post. It will be

> most revealing.

>

> Peace

> Bob C.

> Fillmore, CA, USA

 

 

LOL!

 

..b b.b. is nothing..

 

not ego..not persona..not anything.

 

baba didn't judge..

 

in two consecutive posts stephan claimed he 'felt sorry'.

 

that would indicate to anyone that he was a 'sorry thing'.

 

then he mentions tragedy in greece..

 

in one brief sentence..

 

squished between a slam on mark..and a commercial about himself:

 

" you must be lonely. Well, I also sometimes feel lonely, but not

often. At least at the moment not. I am 52 years old, a composer /

musician and I live Greece. "

 

then without missing a beat he went on to ask:

 

" Where do you live? Since you are posting that time of the day I

suppose you are not living in the US? What else are

you doing besides posting here? "

 

now bobby..if you DON't find that unctuous...you must be dense.

 

that too would not be judgement...it would be fact.

 

and bobji reveals All to All and Every..

 

all the time.

 

so he hopes this reveals to you how ridiculous you're above

 

judgemental posting is.

 

you're just a little ticked off.

 

you don't refer to baba's true reasons or postings..

 

you only reel on about baba himself.

 

that comes off as you acting bit invidious re .b b.b.

 

and this is of course understandable, unavoidable, stupid.

 

but as you have said things are as they are....

 

i'm .b bobji baba and you're not.

 

as pissed off as that seems to make you..it makes me laugh.

 

thanks for your piffle...

 

in Totality i totally love a morning smile..

 

especially delivered by a nebbish like you.

 

i know you'll find this unreactive but courteous reply intersting...

 

baba knows all.

 

 

:-)

 

 

Pieces of Peace

 

..b bobji baba

 

Way Above You

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Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba "

> <Roberibus111@> wrote:

>

> >hahahaaaaaaaa!

>

> I am happy that someone here at least found his humor.

> It is on a pretty low level,

> But at least it sounds like laughter.

>

> It was amazing watching you guys falling

> Into your - so predictable - reactions

> (Only through simple mimic!)

>

> I just wonder, where are you all gone

> You grown ups?

>

> Stefan

 

 

 

:-)

 

stop whining.

 

you need discipline.

 

you will mature someday.

 

LOL!

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba "

> > <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > >hahahaaaaaaaa!

> >

> > I am happy that someone here at least found his humor.

> > It is on a pretty low level,

> > But at least it sounds like laughter.

> >

> > It was amazing watching you guys falling

> > Into your - so predictable - reactions

> > (Only through simple mimic!)

> >

> > I just wonder, where are you all gone

> > You grown ups?

> >

> > Stefan

> >

>

>

> Hi Stefan,

>

> Those guys already are grown ups. But it seems that you own an ideal

> how a grown up should act like and look like.

>

> One's personal past aleady started started intrauterine and built up

> more and more layers of stored experiences, hurts and their defenses,

> humiliations and their compensations, self-defenses and their way of

> fighting, likes and dislikes, the cunning survival strategies

> reflected in greed, ambition and vanity, etc, etc. And many more ...

>

> To demand to grow up from a person who's childhood at the moment got

> active, is in vain. No one can decondition him or herself and to be

> different than one actually is.

>

> Btw, good that you are here, Stefan.

>

> Werner

 

 

 

golly! thank you dr. phil..

 

but..

 

you two should connect your inner child.

 

you both are creeping and squeaking like old nuns.

 

i'm sure this must please you...

 

but gosh it's also demeaning for you no?

 

good luck on any attempt to quit taking yourselves so seriously.

 

there's nothing there to be so uptight about anyway.

 

 

cheerios and all that rot..

 

..b b.b.

 

(your Grand Obsession bobby)

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Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba "

<Roberibus111 wrote:

 

>good luck on any attempt to quit taking yourselves so seriously.

 

Thank you! Could you tell us a joke? Maybe this could help.

 

Greetings

Stefan

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Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba "

> <Roberibus111@> wrote:

>

> >good luck on any attempt to quit taking yourselves so seriously.

>

> Thank you! Could you tell us a joke? Maybe this could help.

>

> Greetings

> Stefan

 

 

i could..but you wouldn't 'get' it.

 

you boys don't seem to have much proficiency in laughing.

 

if you did have....you'd be howling at yourselves already.

 

seriously!

 

LOL!

 

..b b.b.

[Guest guest]

Very lame excuse for not being able to tell a good joke.

Not even a joke...

 

Stefan

 

 

Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba "

<Roberibus111 wrote:

 

> i could..but you wouldn't 'get' it.

>

> you boys don't seem to have much proficiency in laughing.

>

> if you did have....you'd be howling at yourselves already.

>

> seriously!

>

> LOL!

>

> .b b.b.

>

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Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge wrote:

>

> Very lame excuse for not being able to tell a good joke.

> Not even a joke...

>

> Stefan

 

 

 

why do you need to hear a joke?

 

you already ARE a joke.

 

a lame joke that's true.

 

but a joke all the same.

 

LOL!

 

..b b.b.

 

 

> Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba "

> <Roberibus111@> wrote:

>

> > i could..but you wouldn't 'get' it.

> >

> > you boys don't seem to have much proficiency in laughing.

> >

> > if you did have....you'd be howling at yourselves already.

> >

> > seriously!

> >

> > LOL!

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Not even one joke?

Is it so difficult for you?

Are you so much afraid

Not to be taken serious?

 

Stefan

 

 

Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba "

<Roberibus111 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@> wrote:

> >

> > Very lame excuse for not being able to tell a good joke.

> > Not even a joke...

> >

> > Stefan

>

>

>

> why do you need to hear a joke?

>

> you already ARE a joke.

>

> a lame joke that's true.

>

> but a joke all the same.

>

> LOL!

>

> .b b.b.

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge wrote:

>

> Not even one joke?

> Is it so difficult for you?

> Are you so much afraid

> Not to be taken serious?

>

> Stefan

 

 

 

 

LOL!

 

baba NEVER expects to be taken serious(ly).

 

who is there to 'take' ANYTHING..

 

especially since there are:

 

no 'things'..

 

no 'whos'.

 

no 'whats', 'wheres', 'whys', 'hows', 'whys'..

 

nojoke!

 

you will eventually become this understanding..

 

already ARE..

 

but poor little stefan's illusions and delusions bar the Realization.

 

this too shall pass my son....

 

funny as it seems

 

it's ALL a joke stevie...relax.

 

Smile!

 

..b b.b.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba "

> <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Very lame excuse for not being able to tell a good joke.

> > > Not even a joke...

> > >

> > > Stefan

> >

> >

> >

> > why do you need to hear a joke?

> >

> > you already ARE a joke.

> >

> > a lame joke that's true.

> >

> > but a joke all the same.

> >

> > LOL!

> >

> > .b b.b.

>