Guest guest Report post Posted May 28, 2009 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Thursday, May 28, 2009 4:37 PM Re: Perceiving Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > I would say it is what allows the body to feel pain, hot, cold, hunguer, > the > basic needs to sirvive. I dont feel the pain of other bodies neither their > hunguer.... so this localized something is the organic centre. > -geo- > It is only the memory of the experience of hunger that registered in a particular body-mind and not another body-mind. the body-mind is a conceptualization system. it registers memories and itself is remembered, conceptualized. the actuality of being is not registered in the body-mind. it is not localized in one place and not another place. -- D. geo> Memory, repetition, good, bad, need, no-need, survival. With evolution, society...all that stuff...man invented new needs and the inner entity became more complex in a psichological field. avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 Tested on: 28/5/2009 16:43:52 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 12:05:42 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > dan330033 writes: > > > > > ***It's just happening now. That's all. > > Where? > > -- D. > > > ***Here. Where is here? I don't see it. -- D. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 28, 2009 In a message dated 5/28/2009 3:44:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dan330033 writes: Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote:>> > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 1:13:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > dan330033 writes:> > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote:> >> > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 12:05:42 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > dan330033@ writes:> > > > > > > > ***It's just happening now. That's all. > > > > Where?> > > > -- D.> > > > > > ***Here. > > Where is here?> > I don't see it.> > -- D.If I don't see it, I don't need a label for it.-- D. ****You have used labels for many 'things' you don't see. We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 28, 2009 ***It's just happening now. That's all. geo> If you are referring to the dream...then it stoped happening now. The dream that is NOW is not a dream now. *****Although it reads like it, this isn't a contest to see how convoluted our language can get. The simpler, the better. geo> I am not bbb. I dont like to play with words. When there is the seeing in the present..there is no more dream. Then what was the dream is seen for what it is: just a set of conditionings and no entity inside. ****Okay, thanks for clarifying. The dream doesn't stop happening. Perhaps it is seen for what it is, but it just keeps right on happening regardless. Nothing goes into freeze frame. The universe doesn't disappear. geo> There are two things, two fields happening at the same time. One is the dream as ME and the periphery...the movement from and for the self. When the dream of the inner self is no more, then one is seeing the human world. This human world will only stop when the body kicks. We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/27/2009 6:22:23 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > dan330033@ writes: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Tim G. > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:18 PM > > > > Re: Perceiving > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Is the body, then, the result of a *mistake* ? > > > > > > > > > > No, not at all. > > > > > > > > > > What leads you to ask that? > > > > > > > > The whole notion of physical birth, which although not applicable to > > " now " > > > > is a matter of curiosity here. > > > > > > > > Why would reality turn inside out? > > > > > > > > geo> Many have asked this. There is no reason. There is no beguining > > to the > > > > dream - only the end. > > > > > > > > > > > > if there is no beginning..there is no end. > > > > > > if there were.. > > > > > > it could be turned around. > > > > > > the end would then be the beginning that's all. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > its end is in its beginning; its beginning is in its end. > > > > it ends as it begins. > > > > beginninglessly and endlessly. > > > > -- D. > > > > > > ***It's just happening now. That's all. > > Where? > > -- D. where?????? first...WHAT is happening. whatever it is it might not need a location. where's space? does it happen..or not? don't jump ahead in the lessons or you'll never learn. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > souldreamone > Nisargadatta > Thursday, May 28, 2009 3:50 PM > Re: Re: Perceiving > In a message dated 5/28/2009 3:37:57 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > inandor writes: > In a message dated 5/27/2009 6:22:23 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > dan330033 writes: > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > Tim G. > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:18 PM > > > Re: Perceiving > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Is the body, then, the result of a *mistake* ? > > > > > > > > No, not at all. > > > > > > > > What leads you to ask that? > > > > > > The whole notion of physical birth, which although not applicable to > > > " now " > > > is a matter of curiosity here. > > > > > > Why would reality turn inside out? > > > > > > geo> Many have asked this. There is no reason. There is no beguining to > > > the > > > dream - only the end. > > > > > > > > if there is no beginning..there is no end. > > > > if there were.. > > > > it could be turned around. > > > > the end would then be the beginning that's all. > > > > .b b.b. > > its end is in its beginning; its beginning is in its end. > > it ends as it begins. > > beginninglessly and endlessly. > > -- D. > ***It's just happening now. That's all. > > geo> If you are referring to the dream...then it stoped happening now. > The dream that is NOW is not a dream now. > > > *****Although it reads like it, this isn't a contest to see how convoluted > our language can get. The simpler, the better. > > geo> I am not bbb. I dont like to play with words. When there is the seeing > in the present..there is no more dream. Then what was the dream is seen for > what it is: just a set of conditionings and no entity inside. no one is .b b.b. unconditionally. ..b b.b. does like to play though. you're playing too but you take yourself too seriously. that must be depressing at times. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dan330033 > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:54 PM > > Re: Perceiving > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > dan330033 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:13 PM > > > Re: Perceiving > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is the body, then, the result of a *mistake* ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, not at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What leads you to ask that? > > > > > > > > > > > > The whole notion of physical birth, which although not applicable to > > > > > > " now " is a matter of curiosity here. > > > > > > > > > > > > Why would reality turn inside out? > > > > > > > > > > In Tibet, they refer to it as a " magical display. " > > > > > > > > > > For some reason, I like that term. > > > > > > > > When one body dies, are all affected? Just curious to see your response > > > > to > > > > this question. > > > > > > The body is an event through awareness. > > > > > > Does any event occur in separation? > > > > > > Every event is affecting and affected by every other event. > > > > > > Dividing one event from another is conceptual only. > > > > > > The outside of one event is the inside of another event. > > > > > > The ending of one movement begins another. > > > > > > This is multidimensional and transpatial. > > > > > > -- D. > > > > > > geo> He is asking: if the world is a projection of this > > > body/consciousness, > > > then wiht the end of this body where are the others? > > > > The body-consciousness never had its own center in the first place, from > > which to project anything. > > > > The internalization of a center, of a self, was fictional the whole time. > > > > The others who were imagined as projections weren't there, ever. > > > > When the body dies, awareness isn't gone. > > > > What is gone is an imaginary projected world from an imagined center, used > > to collect memories. > > > > Nothing actual is gone. > > > > All movements of body-minds are " synchronized " through awareness. > > > > The ending of one movement begins another, ad infinitum, on all sides, > > beginninglessly and endlessly. > > > > -- D. > > > > The center is jsut an organic center needed for survival of the species. For > > some reason we invested all in that center. > > It thought that it had a life of its own. > > -geo- > > Yes. > > That is the dream. > > And included in the dream is a species trying to survive. > > There are no objects. > > Objects are formulated. > > Dreamed, in other words. > > Objects that try to make themselves survive by having a center, are a contradictory kind of imagined object. > > They involve trying to introject awareness into an object so they can have themselves as something that they will try to continue. > > What a crazy dream that is. > > -- D. not as crazy as thinking that's what is. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dan330033 > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 11:03 PM > > Re: Perceiving > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > dan330033 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:21 PM > > > Re: Perceiving > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > Tim G. > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:18 PM > > > > > Re: Perceiving > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is the body, then, the result of a *mistake* ? > > > > > > > > > > > > No, not at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > What leads you to ask that? > > > > > > > > > > The whole notion of physical birth, which although not applicable to > > > > > " now " > > > > > is a matter of curiosity here. > > > > > > > > > > Why would reality turn inside out? > > > > > > > > > > geo> Many have asked this. There is no reason. There is no beguining > > > > > to > > > > > the > > > > > dream - only the end. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if there is no beginning..there is no end. > > > > > > > > if there were.. > > > > > > > > it could be turned around. > > > > > > > > the end would then be the beginning that's all. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > its end is in its beginning; its beginning is in its end. > > > > > > it ends as it begins. > > > > > > beginninglessly and endlessly. > > > > > > -- D. > > > > > > Are you also referring to the dream? > > > -geo- > > > > Conceptuality is the dream. > > > > Conceptuality is beginnings in endings, beginninglessly and endlessly. > > > > Conceptuality arises through the nonconceptual and is never separate from > > it. > > > > -- D. > > > > Yes. The map has been lais out. > > -geo- > > And now, it isn't needed and can be dissolved. > > -- D. that's a dream. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > I would say it is what allows the body to feel pain, hot, cold, hunguer, the > > basic needs to sirvive. I dont feel the pain of other bodies neither their > > hunguer.... so this localized something is the organic centre. > > -geo- > > > > It is only the memory of the experience of hunger that registered in a particular body-mind and not another body-mind. > > the body-mind is a conceptualization system. > > it registers memories and itself is remembered, conceptualized. > > the actuality of being is not registered in the body-mind. > > it is not localized in one place and not another place. > > -- D. nothing is. nothing special here. the most common of the common actually. the universe is non-local. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 28, 2009 - roberibus111 Nisargadatta Thursday, May 28, 2009 6:11 PM Re: Perceiving Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > souldreamone > Nisargadatta > Thursday, May 28, 2009 3:50 PM > Re: Re: Perceiving > In a message dated 5/28/2009 3:37:57 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > inandor writes: > In a message dated 5/27/2009 6:22:23 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > dan330033 writes: > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > Tim G. > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:18 PM > > > Re: Perceiving > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Is the body, then, the result of a *mistake* ? > > > > > > > > No, not at all. > > > > > > > > What leads you to ask that? > > > > > > The whole notion of physical birth, which although not applicable to > > > " now " > > > is a matter of curiosity here. > > > > > > Why would reality turn inside out? > > > > > > geo> Many have asked this. There is no reason. There is no beguining > > > to > > > the > > > dream - only the end. > > > > > > > > if there is no beginning..there is no end. > > > > if there were.. > > > > it could be turned around. > > > > the end would then be the beginning that's all. > > > > .b b.b. > > its end is in its beginning; its beginning is in its end. > > it ends as it begins. > > beginninglessly and endlessly. > > -- D. > ***It's just happening now. That's all. > > geo> If you are referring to the dream...then it stoped happening now. > The dream that is NOW is not a dream now. > > > *****Although it reads like it, this isn't a contest to see how convoluted > our language can get. The simpler, the better. > > geo> I am not bbb. I dont like to play with words. When there is the > seeing > in the present..there is no more dream. Then what was the dream is seen > for > what it is: just a set of conditionings and no entity inside. no one is .b b.b. unconditionally. ..b b.b. does like to play though. you're playing too but you take yourself too seriously. that must be depressing at times. ..b b.b. I hope I did not hurt your delicate feelings by saying you like to play with words. Next time i will add some perfume to it - roses form my astral body... -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 3:37:57 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > inandor@ writes: > > > > In a message dated 5/27/2009 6:22:23 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > dan330033@ writes: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Tim G. > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:18 PM > > > > Re: Perceiving > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Is the body, then, the result of a *mistake* ? > > > > > > > > > > No, not at all. > > > > > > > > > > What leads you to ask that? > > > > > > > > The whole notion of physical birth, which although not applicable to > > > > " now " > > > > is a matter of curiosity here. > > > > > > > > Why would reality turn inside out? > > > > > > > > geo> Many have asked this. There is no reason. There is no beguining > > to > > > > the > > > > dream - only the end. > > > > > > > > > > > > if there is no beginning..there is no end. > > > > > > if there were.. > > > > > > it could be turned around. > > > > > > the end would then be the beginning that's all. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > its end is in its beginning; its beginning is in its end. > > > > it ends as it begins. > > > > beginninglessly and endlessly. > > > > -- D. > > ***It's just happening now. That's all. > > > > geo> If you are referring to the dream...then it stoped happening now. > > The dream that is NOW is not a dream now. > > > > > > *****Although it reads like it, this isn't a contest to see how convoluted > > our language can get. The simpler, the better. > > Nah. > > Language isn't simple. > > What is simple is no language. give it a try dan. ..b b.b. > > -- D. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 12:05:42 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > dan330033@ writes: > > > > > > > > ***It's just happening now. That's all. > > > > Where? > > > > -- D. > > > > > > ***Here. > > Where is here? > > I don't see it. > > -- D. and you never will. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 12:20:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > inandor writes: > > ***It's just happening now. That's all. > > geo> If you are referring to the dream...then it stoped happening now. > The dream that is NOW is not a dream now. > > > *****Although it reads like it, this isn't a contest to see how convoluted > our language can get. The simpler, the better. > > geo> I am not bbb. I dont like to play with words. When there is the > seeing > in the present..there is no more dream. Then what was the dream is seen > for > what it is: just a set of conditionings and no entity inside. > > > ****Okay, thanks for clarifying. The dream doesn't stop happening. Perhaps > it is seen for what it is, but it just keeps right on happening > regardless. Nothing goes into freeze frame. The universe doesn't disappear. oh yes it does. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > geo> Memory, repetition, good, bad, need, no-need, survival. > With evolution, society...all that stuff...man invented new needs and the > inner entity became more complex in a psichological field. Except that it still has never been able to be there. How complex can something become, that has never had a way to be there in the first place? The illusion of " becoming " for an imagined self has become more complex. There are more ways for a self-image to develop in a more complex society. -- D. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 28, 2009 - roberibus111 Nisargadatta Thursday, May 28, 2009 6:39 PM Re: Perceiving Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 12:20:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > inandor writes: > > ***It's just happening now. That's all. > > geo> If you are referring to the dream...then it stoped happening now. > The dream that is NOW is not a dream now. > > > *****Although it reads like it, this isn't a contest to see how convoluted > our language can get. The simpler, the better. > > geo> I am not bbb. I dont like to play with words. When there is the > seeing > in the present..there is no more dream. Then what was the dream is seen > for > what it is: just a set of conditionings and no entity inside. > > > ****Okay, thanks for clarifying. The dream doesn't stop happening. Perhaps > it is seen for what it is, but it just keeps right on happening > regardless. Nothing goes into freeze frame. The universe doesn't > disappear. oh yes it does. ..b b.b. What do you mean? -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Thursday, May 28, 2009 6:11 PM > Re: Perceiving > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > souldreamone@ > > Nisargadatta > > Thursday, May 28, 2009 3:50 PM > > Re: Re: Perceiving > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 3:37:57 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > inandor@ writes: > > In a message dated 5/27/2009 6:22:23 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > dan330033@ writes: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Tim G. > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:18 PM > > > > Re: Perceiving > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Is the body, then, the result of a *mistake* ? > > > > > > > > > > No, not at all. > > > > > > > > > > What leads you to ask that? > > > > > > > > The whole notion of physical birth, which although not applicable to > > > > " now " > > > > is a matter of curiosity here. > > > > > > > > Why would reality turn inside out? > > > > > > > > geo> Many have asked this. There is no reason. There is no beguining > > > > to > > > > the > > > > dream - only the end. > > > > > > > > > > > > if there is no beginning..there is no end. > > > > > > if there were.. > > > > > > it could be turned around. > > > > > > the end would then be the beginning that's all. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > its end is in its beginning; its beginning is in its end. > > > > it ends as it begins. > > > > beginninglessly and endlessly. > > > > -- D. > > ***It's just happening now. That's all. > > > > geo> If you are referring to the dream...then it stoped happening now. > > The dream that is NOW is not a dream now. > > > > > > *****Although it reads like it, this isn't a contest to see how convoluted > > our language can get. The simpler, the better. > > > > geo> I am not bbb. I dont like to play with words. When there is the > > seeing > > in the present..there is no more dream. Then what was the dream is seen > > for > > what it is: just a set of conditionings and no entity inside. > > no one is .b b.b. > > unconditionally. > > .b b.b. does like to play though. > > you're playing too but you take yourself too seriously. > > that must be depressing at times. > > .b b.b. > > I hope I did not hurt your delicate feelings by saying you like to play with > words. > Next time i will add some perfume to it - roses form my astral body... > -geo- LOL! by now you should be aware that .b b.b. has no feelings. add all you want but know i don't give a shit. it's all fun and games. baba takes nothing seriously. nothing is the ONLY such that is " taken " seriously.. or more precisely.. nothing takes .b b.b. seriously. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Thursday, May 28, 2009 6:39 PM > Re: Perceiving > > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 12:20:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > inandor@ writes: > > > > ***It's just happening now. That's all. > > > > geo> If you are referring to the dream...then it stoped happening now. > > The dream that is NOW is not a dream now. > > > > > > *****Although it reads like it, this isn't a contest to see how convoluted > > our language can get. The simpler, the better. > > > > geo> I am not bbb. I dont like to play with words. When there is the > > seeing > > in the present..there is no more dream. Then what was the dream is seen > > for > > what it is: just a set of conditionings and no entity inside. > > > > > > ****Okay, thanks for clarifying. The dream doesn't stop happening. Perhaps > > it is seen for what it is, but it just keeps right on happening > > regardless. Nothing goes into freeze frame. The universe doesn't > > disappear. > > oh yes it does. > > .b b.b. > > What do you mean? > -geo- i don't mean anything. nothing means anything. the universe is just for appearances. when appearances are no longer needed.. those appearances not only disappear from view. they disappear as never having been. some however believe that their beliefs are real. they " see " things. that's not a forever however. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 1:13:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > dan330033 writes: > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 12:05:42 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > dan330033@ writes: > > > > > > > > ***It's just happening now. That's all. > > > > Where? > > > > -- D. > > > > > > ***Here. > > Where is here? > > I don't see it. > > -- D. If I don't see it, I don't need a label for it. -- D. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2009 In a message dated 5/28/2009 5:53:24 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dan330033 writes: Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote:>> > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 3:44:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > dan330033 writes:> > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote:> >> > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 1:13:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > dan330033@ writes:> > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote:> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 12:05:42 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > dan330033@ writes:> > > > > > > > > > > ***It's just happening now. That's all. > > > > > > Where?> > > > > > -- D.> > > > > > > > > ***Here. > > > > Where is here?> > > > I don't see it.> > > > -- D.> > > If I don't see it, I don't need a label for it.> > -- D.> > > > ****You have used labels for many 'things' you don't see.Are you sure?Where are they?-- D. ***I'm with Geo, I don't like to play word games either. We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > nothing is. > > nothing special here. > > the most common of the common actually. > > the universe is non-local. > > .b b.b. it's on a cat's collar. just make sure the men in black don't get it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 3:37:57 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > inandor@ writes: > > > > > > In a message dated 5/27/2009 6:22:23 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > dan330033@ writes: > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > Tim G. > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:18 PM > > > > > Re: Perceiving > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is the body, then, the result of a *mistake* ? > > > > > > > > > > > > No, not at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > What leads you to ask that? > > > > > > > > > > The whole notion of physical birth, which although not applicable to > > > > > " now " > > > > > is a matter of curiosity here. > > > > > > > > > > Why would reality turn inside out? > > > > > > > > > > geo> Many have asked this. There is no reason. There is no beguining > > > to > > > > > the > > > > > dream - only the end. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if there is no beginning..there is no end. > > > > > > > > if there were.. > > > > > > > > it could be turned around. > > > > > > > > the end would then be the beginning that's all. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > its end is in its beginning; its beginning is in its end. > > > > > > it ends as it begins. > > > > > > beginninglessly and endlessly. > > > > > > -- D. > > > ***It's just happening now. That's all. > > > > > > geo> If you are referring to the dream...then it stoped happening now. > > > The dream that is NOW is not a dream now. > > > > > > > > > *****Although it reads like it, this isn't a contest to see how convoluted > > > our language can get. The simpler, the better. > > > > Nah. > > > > Language isn't simple. > > > > What is simple is no language. > > > give it a try dan. > > .b b.b. > Oh, you thought this was language ... No wonder you got confused. Dd. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2009 In a message dated 5/28/2009 8:06:27 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dan330033 writes: Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote:>> > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 5:53:24 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > dan330033 writes:> > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote:> >> > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 3:44:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > dan330033@ writes:> > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote:> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 1:13:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > dan330033@ writes:> > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 12:05:42 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > > > dan330033@ writes:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***It's just happening now. That's all. > > > > > > > > Where?> > > > > > > > -- D.> > > > > > > > > > > > ***Here. > > > > > > Where is here?> > > > > > I don't see it.> > > > > > -- D.> > > > > > If I don't see it, I don't need a label for it.> > > > -- D.> > > > > > > > ****You have used labels for many 'things' you don't see.> > > Are you sure?> > Where are they?> > -- D.> > > > ***I'm with Geo, I don't like to play word games either.It's not a word game.It's an invitation.To perception unlabeled.Can you sit a label in a chair?Labels: only there as much as you believe them to be there, only there as much as you react to them..D. ****Well, now, Dan, it seems pretty obvious from here that no label is gonna steal my lunch or smother me with a pillow in the middle of the night. It's pretty clear that words are symbols used to contemplate and communicate things, and don't need to be sent to school or have their teeth checked on a regular basis. Howsoever, communicating is one of those things we pretend to be doing here, and so if you look anywhere on this post, you'll be shocked to find a breath taking plethora of labels (OMG!). And why are they here and are they likely to take over my puter or are they more affable labels. That all remains to be seen, but what's of interest at the moment is, is where you're coming from. Oops! retract that. The question is, is this what you were non-volitionally attempting to convey to me with the above labels? We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2009 In a message dated 5/28/2009 8:15:03 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, lastrain writes: Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote:>> > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 5:53:24 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > dan330033 writes:> > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote:> >> > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 3:44:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > dan330033@ writes:> > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote:> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 1:13:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > dan330033@ writes:> > > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 12:05:42 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > > > dan330033@ writes:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***It's just happening now. That's all. > > > > > > > > Where?> > > > > > > > -- D.> > > > > > > > > > > > ***Here. > > > > > > Where is here?> > > > > > I don't see it.> > > > > > -- D.> > > > > > If I don't see it, I don't need a label for it.> > > > -- D.> > > > > > > > ****You have used labels for many 'things' you don't see.> > > Are you sure?> > Where are they?> > -- D.> > > > ***I'm with Geo, I don't like to play word games either.> > > You ARE a word game.toombaru ****Are you even aware of what you type or does it just kinda happen somehow? We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 1:13:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > dan330033@ writes: > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/28/2009 12:05:42 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > dan330033@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > ***It's just happening now. That's all. > > > > > > Where? > > > > > > -- D. > > > > > > > > > ***Here. > > > > Where is here? > > > > I don't see it. > > > > -- D. > > > If I don't see it, I don't need a label for it. > > -- D. then there's no reason for the labels: atom...quark...black hole...mind... fucking unneeded labeling! hahahahahahahaa. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2009 In a message dated 5/28/2009 8:44:26 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, lastrain writes: > ****Are you even aware of what you type or does it just kinda happen > somehow? > > > Someone says something......the neurons in this synaptic complex begin to sizzle........the fingers begin to type and as I read what comes through........sometimes........I am left breathless.I search for words to articulate the clarity that is ever-present and.......you know.......by golly......they always fall short by a mile.But I have fun shooting arrows at the moon.It is known that the attempt is futile........but every once in a while.....one makes the most beautiful arch before it returns to the earth.toombaru ***What self serving nonsense..... We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
