A Prayer to Mahalakshmi

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Nisargadatta , " devianandi " <polansky@m...> wrote:

>

> > >

> > > if being liberated means that i am not aware of my external

> > > surrounding, then no i am not liberated...

> > >

> > > also, i still dream....so then again no....

> > >

> > > .see below...

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > In sahaja samadhi the activities, vital and mental, and the

> three

> > > states are destroyed, never to re-appear. However others notice

> the

> > > jnani active, e.g. eating, talking, moving, etc. He is not

> himself

> > > aware of these activities, whereas others are aware of his

> > > activities. They pertain to his body and not to his Real Self,

> > > swarupa. For himself, he is like the sleeping passenger --or

> like a

> > > child interrupted from sound sleep and fed, being unaware of it.

> The

> > > child says the next day that he did not take milk at all and

> that he

> > > went to sleep without it. Even when reminded he cannot be

> convinced.

> > > So also is sahaja samadhi. "

> > >

> > > 4. What is the state beyond bliss?

> > > It is the state of unceasing peace of mind which is found in the

> > > state of absolute quiescence, jagrat-sushupti (lit. sleep with

> > > awareness) which resembles inactive deep sleep. In this state,

> in

> > > spite of the activity of the body and the senses, there is no

> > > external awareness, like a child immersed in sleep* (who is not

> > > conscious of the food given to him by his mother). A yogi who is

> in

> > > this state is inactive even while engaged in activity. This is

> also

> > > called sahaja nirvikalpa samadhi (natural state of absorption in

> > > oneself without concepts).

> >

> >

> > Dear Devianandi:

> >

> > If you learn to meditate you can become mindless or whatever, if

> > that's what you want. It can also be done through hypnosis or

> sensory

> > deprivation. LSD and other chemicals can also induce mindlessness

> and

> > altered states. I used to be able to meditate and my body would

> > disappear and I would be like clear, transparent awareness. But,

> that

> > isn't where it's at. Yogis and sadhus and what not can train their

> > bodies to do all kinds of bizarre phenomena. So, what? You can

> analyze

> > all of this stuff and categorize it and divide it up into different

> > " stages " or " levels " , etc., as many " stages " as you like. Why stop

> at

> > seven stages? It can be divided up ad infinitum. All of this is

> > distraction. It does not lead to liberation or moksha or

> realization.

> > The only way to do that is to understand the self. The self is

> being

> > itself. It is pure awareness, nothing else. It always is and

> cannot be

> > lost or found. Once you realize it, there's no need to do anymore

> > sadhana or " spiritual " exercises or anything.

>

> >

> > fuzzie

>

> devi: you seem to be thinking that Self-realization and Liberation

> are the same....

> they are not....

> i was not asking for a lecture either..

> i was asking what you thought were the differences between self-

> realization and liberation...

> and i was hoping that you could clear up my (puzzlement) about the

> gnani (liberated one) who is unaware of the external world and has

> lost the activities, vital and mental, and the three states which

> are destroyed, never to re-appear even while appearing to be active

> to the onlooker?

>

> if you don't know the answer just say so....

 

OK, Devianandi. Don't get all huffy and puffy. I'm sorry. I was trying

to talk, that's all.

 

You say self-realization is not liberation. In order for you to make

that distinction, you must be liberated. So, since you are liberated,

tell me what is the difference between self-realization and liberation?

 

I eagerly await your response.

 

Thank you for your patience.

 

Yours,

 

fuzzie

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , Harsha wrote:

> fuzzie_wuz wrote:

>

> >

> > Dear Devianandi:

> >

> > Forget about Ramana and Nisargadatta and yogis and swamis and all

> > that. Find you. Be you.

>

> Yes, that is the essential teaching of Ramana!

>

> Love to all

> Harsha

 

 

 

Nope.

 

 

Ramana encouraged people to ask " Who am I "

 

He never encouraged anyone to " find themselves " or " be themelves " .

 

toombaru

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " devianandi " <polansky@m...> wrote:

>

> > >

> > > if being liberated means that i am not aware of my external

> > > surrounding, then no i am not liberated...

> > >

> > > also, i still dream....so then again no....

> > >

> > > .see below...

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > In sahaja samadhi the activities, vital and mental, and the

> three

> > > states are destroyed, never to re-appear. However others notice

> the

> > > jnani active, e.g. eating, talking, moving, etc. He is not

> himself

> > > aware of these activities, whereas others are aware of his

> > > activities. They pertain to his body and not to his Real Self,

> > > swarupa. For himself, he is like the sleeping passenger --or

> like a

> > > child interrupted from sound sleep and fed, being unaware of it.

> The

> > > child says the next day that he did not take milk at all and

> that he

> > > went to sleep without it. Even when reminded he cannot be

> convinced.

> > > So also is sahaja samadhi. "

> > >

> > > 4. What is the state beyond bliss?

> > > It is the state of unceasing peace of mind which is found in the

> > > state of absolute quiescence, jagrat-sushupti (lit. sleep with

> > > awareness) which resembles inactive deep sleep. In this state,

> in

> > > spite of the activity of the body and the senses, there is no

> > > external awareness, like a child immersed in sleep* (who is not

> > > conscious of the food given to him by his mother). A yogi who is

> in

> > > this state is inactive even while engaged in activity. This is

> also

> > > called sahaja nirvikalpa samadhi (natural state of absorption in

> > > oneself without concepts).

> >

> >

> > Dear Devianandi:

> >

> > If you learn to meditate you can become mindless or whatever, if

> > that's what you want. It can also be done through hypnosis or

> sensory

> > deprivation. LSD and other chemicals can also induce mindlessness

> and

> > altered states. I used to be able to meditate and my body would

> > disappear and I would be like clear, transparent awareness. But,

> that

> > isn't where it's at. Yogis and sadhus and what not can train their

> > bodies to do all kinds of bizarre phenomena. So, what? You can

> analyze

> > all of this stuff and categorize it and divide it up into different

> > " stages " or " levels " , etc., as many " stages " as you like. Why stop

> at

> > seven stages? It can be divided up ad infinitum. All of this is

> > distraction. It does not lead to liberation or moksha or

> realization.

> > The only way to do that is to understand the self. The self is

> being

> > itself. It is pure awareness, nothing else. It always is and

> cannot be

> > lost or found. Once you realize it, there's no need to do anymore

> > sadhana or " spiritual " exercises or anything.

>

> >

> > fuzzie

>

> devi: you seem to be thinking that Self-realization and Liberation

> are the same....

> they are not....

> i was not asking for a lecture either..

> i was asking what you thought were the differences between self-

> realization and liberation...

> and i was hoping that you could clear up my (puzzlement) about the

> gnani (liberated one) who is unaware of the external world and has

> lost the activities, vital and mental, and the three states which

> are destroyed, never to re-appear even while appearing to be active

> to the onlooker?

>

> if you don't know the answer just say so....

 

 

 

 

There is no difference between things that do not exist.

 

 

 

 

toombaru

[Guest guest]

Thanks Harsha,

 

What Is -- Is the essential truth ?

Who Am I - Is the most essential question ?

Where Am i - Is the essential search ...

 

Regards,

murali.

 

 

Nisargadatta [Nisargadatta ]On

Behalf Of Harsha

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 4:27 AM

Nisargadatta ;

Re: Re: A Prayer to Mahalakshmi

 

 

fuzzie_wuz wrote:

 

>

> Dear Devianandi:

>

> Forget about Ramana and Nisargadatta and yogis and swamis and all

> that. Find you. Be you.

 

Yes, that is the essential teaching of Ramana!

 

Love to all

Harsha

 

 

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Nisargadatta , " Ramanath, Murali H \(GE Healthcare\) "

<Murali.Ramanath@g...> wrote:

> Thanks Harsha,

>

> What Is -- Is the essential truth ?

> Who Am I - Is the most essential question ?

> Where Am i - Is the essential search ...

>

> Regards,

> murali.

>

 

 

 

Only for the searcher.

 

 

toombaru

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...> wrote:

> Nisargadatta , Harsha wrote:

> > fuzzie_wuz wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > Dear Devianandi:

> > >

> > > Forget about Ramana and Nisargadatta and yogis and swamis and

all

> > > that. Find you. Be you.

> >

> > Yes, that is the essential teaching of Ramana!

> >

> > Love to all

> > Harsha

>

>

>

> Nope.

>

>

> Ramana encouraged people to ask " Who am I "

>

> He never encouraged anyone to " find themselves " or " be themelves " .

>

> toombaru

 

 

**************

Yes indeed. The great mis-understanding. All these fools running

around trying to find themselves or be themselves, like they're

somehow " God " or something " Wonderful " , but do they ever once stop to

look into what they're doing, who they *are*, what that sickness,

that self-ishness is in the first place. Noooooo. Anything but THAT!

 

Judi

[Guest guest]

> >

> > devi: you seem to be thinking that Self-realization and

Liberation are the same.... they are not....

i was not asking for a lecture either..

i was asking what you thought were the differences between self-

realization and liberation...

and i was hoping that you could clear up my (puzzlement) about the

gnani (liberated one) who is unaware of the external world and has

lost the activities, vital and mental, and the three states which

are destroyed, never to re-appear even while appearing to be active

to the onlooker? if you don't know the answer just say so....

 

fuzzy: OK, Devianandi. Don't get all huffy and puffy. I'm sorry. I

was trying to talk, that's all. You say self-realization is not

liberation. In order for you to make that distinction, you must be

liberated. So, since you are liberated,tell me what is the

difference between self-realization and liberation?

I eagerly await your response.

 

Thank you for your patience.

 

Yours,

 

fuzzie

 

devi: i was sincerely asking if you knew the difference between self-

realization and liberation...since you say you are liberated..

 

i don't know if i'm liberated or not...i do know i'm self-realized..

 

are you aware of your bodily activites? do you dream and have deep

sleep experience...then according to ramana maharshi your not

liberated...

 

meher baba says that there is an experience when one sees the Self

and the person thinks that's self-realization..but thats actually

called the abode of delusion and that happens frequently....the

person has to go deeper...

 

i'm just checking you out, you seem to be open to that...

 

oh, i just remembered something...in liberation there are no

vasanas...in self-realiztion there are still vasanas but they don't

inhibit self-realization..

 

thanks for chatting

[Guest guest]

>

> Nope.

>

>

> Ramana encouraged people to ask " Who am I "

>

> He never encouraged anyone to " find themselves " or " be themelves " .

>

> toombaru

 

devi: he encouraged one of his disciples to go from kevela samadhi to

sahaj samadhi...both implying the realizing of the Self...

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " devianandi " <polansky@m...> wrote:

>

> >

> > Nope.

> >

> >

> > Ramana encouraged people to ask " Who am I "

> >

> > He never encouraged anyone to " find themselves " or " be themelves " .

> >

> > toombaru

>

> devi: he encouraged one of his disciples to go from kevela samadhi to

> sahaj samadhi...both implying the realizing of the Self...

 

 

 

Now you are speculating on what Ramana was implying....

 

When Nisargadatta was asked a question about all those convoluted sanskrit mumbp

jumbo....he would claim that he was an ignorant man that could hardly read and

refer

them to one of the " scholars " in the room.

 

 

 

You are searching for meaning ...where there is none.

 

 

 

toombaru

[Guest guest]

toom: Ramana encouraged people to ask " Who am I " He never encouraged

anyone to " find themselves " or " be themelves " .

 

devi: he encouraged one of his disciples to go from kevela samadhi

to sahaj samadhi...both implying the realizing of the Self...

 

toom..Now you are speculating on what Ramana was implying....

devi: i am not speculating....where do you see speculation?

this is speculation------>your not self-realized

 

 

toomy: When Nisargadatta was asked a question about all those

convoluted sanskrit mumbp jumbo....he would claim that he was an

ignorant man that could hardly read and refer them to one of

the " scholars " in the room. You are searching for meaning ...where

there is none.

 

devi: now your specualting about me...i'll tell you..i am so glad

that i met nizargadatta after the fact because for me he would have

been no use.....now he is useful....but again, thats after the fact..

 

i was a born yogi...it is natural for me....so don't make fun...

 

searching for meaning...all is meaningless until you give it your

own meaning...don't make up stories about me in your head...thats

not reality....

 

:-) devi

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " devianandi " <polansky@m...> wrote:

>

> toom: Ramana encouraged people to ask " Who am I " He never encouraged

> anyone to " find themselves " or " be themelves " .

>

> devi: he encouraged one of his disciples to go from kevela samadhi

> to sahaj samadhi...both implying the realizing of the Self...

>

> toom..Now you are speculating on what Ramana was implying....

> devi: i am not speculating....where do you see speculation?

> this is speculation------>your not self-realized

>

>

> toomy: When Nisargadatta was asked a question about all those

> convoluted sanskrit mumbp jumbo....he would claim that he was an

> ignorant man that could hardly read and refer them to one of

> the " scholars " in the room. You are searching for meaning ...where

> there is none.

>

> devi: now your specualting about me...i'll tell you..i am so glad

> that i met nizargadatta after the fact because for me he would have

> been no use.....now he is useful....but again, thats after the fact..

>

> i was a born yogi...it is natural for me....so don't make fun...

>

> searching for meaning...all is meaningless until you give it your

> own meaning...don't make up stories about me in your head...thats

> not reality....

>

> :-) devi

 

 

 

A real yogi...wouldn't care of someone made fun of them.

 

 

Strrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiike Three.

 

 

You're out!

 

 

 

toombaru

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...>

wrote:

> Nisargadatta , " devianandi " <polansky@m...>

wrote:

> >

> > toom: Ramana encouraged people to ask " Who am I " He never

encouraged

> > anyone to " find themselves " or " be themelves " .

> >

> > devi: he encouraged one of his disciples to go from kevela

samadhi

> > to sahaj samadhi...both implying the realizing of the Self...

> >

> > toom..Now you are speculating on what Ramana was implying....

> > devi: i am not speculating....where do you see speculation?

> > this is speculation------>your not self-realized

> >

> >

> > toomy: When Nisargadatta was asked a question about all those

> > convoluted sanskrit mumbp jumbo....he would claim that he was an

> > ignorant man that could hardly read and refer them to one of

> > the " scholars " in the room. You are searching for

meaning ...where

> > there is none.

> >

> > devi: now your specualting about me...i'll tell you..i am so

glad

> > that i met nizargadatta after the fact because for me he would

have

> > been no use.....now he is useful....but again, thats after the

fact..

> >

> > i was a born yogi...it is natural for me....so don't make fun...

> >

> > searching for meaning...all is meaningless until you give it

your

> > own meaning...don't make up stories about me in your

head...thats

> > not reality....

> >

> > :-) devi

>

>

>

> A real yogi...wouldn't care of someone made fun of them.

>

>

> Strrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiike Three.

>

>

> You're out!

>

>

>

> toombaru

 

devi: my guru seems to care in certain instances and you don't get

more yogi then he...

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " devianandi " <polansky@m...> wrote:

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...>

> wrote:

> > Nisargadatta , " devianandi " <polansky@m...>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > toom: Ramana encouraged people to ask " Who am I " He never

> encouraged

> > > anyone to " find themselves " or " be themelves " .

> > >

> > > devi: he encouraged one of his disciples to go from kevela

> samadhi

> > > to sahaj samadhi...both implying the realizing of the Self...

> > >

> > > toom..Now you are speculating on what Ramana was implying....

> > > devi: i am not speculating....where do you see speculation?

> > > this is speculation------>your not self-realized

> > >

> > >

> > > toomy: When Nisargadatta was asked a question about all those

> > > convoluted sanskrit mumbp jumbo....he would claim that he was an

> > > ignorant man that could hardly read and refer them to one of

> > > the " scholars " in the room. You are searching for

> meaning ...where

> > > there is none.

> > >

> > > devi: now your specualting about me...i'll tell you..i am so

> glad

> > > that i met nizargadatta after the fact because for me he would

> have

> > > been no use.....now he is useful....but again, thats after the

> fact..

> > >

> > > i was a born yogi...it is natural for me....so don't make fun...

> > >

> > > searching for meaning...all is meaningless until you give it

> your

> > > own meaning...don't make up stories about me in your

> head...thats

> > > not reality....

> > >

> > > :-) devi

> >

> >

> >

> > A real yogi...wouldn't care of someone made fun of them.

> >

> >

> > Strrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiike Three.

> >

> >

> > You're out!

> >

> >

> >

> > toombaru

>

> devi: my guru seems to care in certain instances and you don't get

> more yogi then he...

 

 

 

 

 

If he (or she) is harmed by another's words........you might consider trading

up.

 

 

toombaru

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " devianandi " <polansky@m...> wrote:

>

> > >

> > > devi: you seem to be thinking that Self-realization and

> Liberation are the same.... they are not....

> i was not asking for a lecture either..

> i was asking what you thought were the differences between self-

> realization and liberation...

> and i was hoping that you could clear up my (puzzlement) about the

> gnani (liberated one) who is unaware of the external world and has

> lost the activities, vital and mental, and the three states which

> are destroyed, never to re-appear even while appearing to be active

> to the onlooker? if you don't know the answer just say so....

>

> fuzzy: OK, Devianandi. Don't get all huffy and puffy. I'm sorry. I

> was trying to talk, that's all. You say self-realization is not

> liberation. In order for you to make that distinction, you must be

> liberated. So, since you are liberated,tell me what is the

> difference between self-realization and liberation?

> I eagerly await your response.

>

> Thank you for your patience.

>

> Yours,

>

> fuzzie

>

> devi: i was sincerely asking if you knew the difference between self-

> realization and liberation...since you say you are liberated..

>

> i don't know if i'm liberated or not...i do know i'm self-realized..

>

> are you aware of your bodily activites? do you dream and have deep

> sleep experience...then according to ramana maharshi your not

> liberated...

>

> meher baba says that there is an experience when one sees the Self

> and the person thinks that's self-realization..but thats actually

> called the abode of delusion and that happens frequently....the

> person has to go deeper...

>

> i'm just checking you out, you seem to be open to that...

>

> oh, i just remembered something...in liberation there are no

> vasanas...in self-realiztion there are still vasanas but they don't

> inhibit self-realization..

>

> thanks for chatting

 

Hi, Devianandi:

 

I think your questions are for the meher and ramana, and, not for me.

You should go ask them.

 

There is no difference between self and liberation. Find the self and

you're done. Find the self and there is nothing left to be liberated.

 

All natural, conditional body/mind patterns continue (sleeping,

dreaming, waking, eating, excreting, etc.). Nothing changes. Except

that there is no more seeking. One is self-contained. That is, non-dual.

 

What you seem to be questioning are the various altered states due to

intensive meditation. I'm not into that. As I mentioned before, these

states can be reached through any number of various methods (hypnosis,

drugs, chanting, meditation, fasting, etc.). If that's your goal,

then, seek those things out. You may want to check into siddha yoga.

 

Have a good one.

 

Yours,

 

fuzzie

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Nisargadatta , " Judi Rhodes " <judirhodes@c...>

wrote:

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...>

wrote:

> > Nisargadatta , Harsha wrote:

> > > fuzzie_wuz wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Devianandi:

> > > >

> > > > Forget about Ramana and Nisargadatta and yogis and swamis

and

> all

> > > > that. Find you. Be you.

> > >

> > > Yes, that is the essential teaching of Ramana!

> > >

> > > Love to all

> > > Harsha

> >

> >

> >

> > Nope.

> >

> >

> > Ramana encouraged people to ask " Who am I "

> >

> > He never encouraged anyone to " find themselves " or " be

themelves " .

> >

> > toombaru

>

>

> **************

> Yes indeed. The great mis-understanding. All these fools running

> around trying to find themselves or be themselves, like they're

> somehow " God " or something " Wonderful " , but do they ever once stop

to

> look into what they're doing, who they *are*, what that sickness,

> that self-ishness is in the first place. Noooooo. Anything but

THAT!

>

> Judi

 

 

sam: wait, judi now you've just dang well gone and confused me,

admittedly that isn't a big leap =)

Now you're not thrilled with people trying to find themselves or be

themselves however just the other day you said that it was doubtful

if people could even get into the nature of who there self really is

because that was really where it was at (or however the heck you

phrased it.) This sounds highly contradictory.

Now you suggest they should stop and **look into** what they're

doing, who they *are*, what that sickness is, etc. I do recall

however that when you frequently troll for new members on a Ranch

membership drive one of the prerequisites is that they can't be

interested in psycologically trying for improvement etc., etc. which

happens to be a part of this " looking into " what they're donig, who

they *are* what that sickness is and why, etc.

This too sounds highly contradictory to your above message.

Do you just like to fight against advaidta board posters or do you

like to fight against western christian religion, moslems et.al?

Or, do you just like to fight?

oh happy days indeed!

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...>

wrote:

> Nisargadatta , Harsha wrote:

> > fuzzie_wuz wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > Dear Devianandi:

> > >

> > > Forget about Ramana and Nisargadatta and yogis and swamis and

all

> > > that. Find you. Be you.

> >

> > Yes, that is the essential teaching of Ramana!

> >

> > Love to all

> > Harsha

>

>

>

> Nope.

>

>

> Ramana encouraged people to ask " Who am I "

>

> He never encouraged anyone to " find themselves " or " be themelves " .

>

> toombaru

 

Sri Ramana never encouraged people to do ANYTHING!

It was just that people wouldn't leave him alone,

just to get some peace he " invented " his Koan

Of course he knew,that " Who am I? " is an absolutely

meaningless question

Only,Ramana was smarter than most..............

Vibes,

Flemming

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Nisargadatta , " yogidahl2000 " <Dahl_flemming@h...> wrote:

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...>

> wrote:

> > Nisargadatta , Harsha wrote:

> > > fuzzie_wuz wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Devianandi:

> > > >

> > > > Forget about Ramana and Nisargadatta and yogis and swamis and

> all

> > > > that. Find you. Be you.

> > >

> > > Yes, that is the essential teaching of Ramana!

> > >

> > > Love to all

> > > Harsha

> >

> >

> >

> > Nope.

> >

> >

> > Ramana encouraged people to ask " Who am I "

> >

> > He never encouraged anyone to " find themselves " or " be themelves " .

> >

> > toombaru

>

> Sri Ramana never encouraged people to do ANYTHING!

> It was just that people wouldn't leave him alone,

> just to get some peace he " invented " his Koan

> Of course he knew,that " Who am I? " is an absolutely

> meaningless question

> Only,Ramana was smarter than most..............

> Vibes,

> Flemming

 

 

Actually Ramana was only another little meat monkey....through whom what is

sparkled.

 

 

 

toombaru

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " yogidahl2000 "

<Dahl_flemming@h...> wrote:

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2004 " <cptc@w...>

> wrote:

> > Nisargadatta , Harsha wrote:

> > > fuzzie_wuz wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Devianandi:

> > > >

> > > > Forget about Ramana and Nisargadatta and yogis and swamis and

> all

> > > > that. Find you. Be you.

> > >

> > > Yes, that is the essential teaching of Ramana!

> > >

> > > Love to all

> > > Harsha

> >

> >

> >

> > Nope.

> >

> >

> > Ramana encouraged people to ask " Who am I "

> >

> > He never encouraged anyone to " find themselves " or " be themelves " .

> >

> > toombaru

>

> Sri Ramana never encouraged people to do ANYTHING!

> It was just that people wouldn't leave him alone,

> just to get some peace he " invented " his Koan

> Of course he knew,that " Who am I? " is an absolutely

> meaningless question

> Only,Ramana was smarter than most..............

> Vibes,

> Flemming

 

 

Hey, Yogidahl:

 

How ya doing?

 

I tell you the truth, I don't think Ramana ever even existed. I think

he's a myth. Everybody's got their own idea of who he was. Which one's

real? Who knows? Who am Ramana? Who am you? Who am anybody?

 

 

Yours,

 

fuzzie

[Guest guest]

>

> Hey, Yogidahl:

>

> How ya doing?

>

> I tell you the truth, I don't think Ramana ever even existed. I think

> he's a myth. Everybody's got their own idea of who he was. Which one's

> real? Who knows? Who am Ramana? Who am you? Who am anybody?

>

>

>

> Yours,

>

> fuzzie

 

Hey Fuzzie!

HaHa,well,yes,it may be that Sri Ramana has never existed!

Anyway,his ashram in Tiruvannamalai does exist (I've been there

myself),with its stone-hard meditation floor and great noisy

proud peacocks just a few steps away

- and that's Good Enough!!

 

But,then,Jesus Christ,perhaps he too never existed??

Well,at least the POPE does exist!

-- It's hardly Good Enough.................

Hope You're Doing Fine!

Vibes,

Flemming

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " yogidahl2000 "

<Dahl_flemming@h...> wrote:

>

> >

> > Hey, Yogidahl:

> >

> > How ya doing?

> >

> > I tell you the truth, I don't think Ramana ever even existed. I think

> > he's a myth. Everybody's got their own idea of who he was. Which one's

> > real? Who knows? Who am Ramana? Who am you? Who am anybody?

> >

> >

> >

> > Yours,

> >

> > fuzzie

>

> Hey Fuzzie!

> HaHa,well,yes,it may be that Sri Ramana has never existed!

> Anyway,his ashram in Tiruvannamalai does exist (I've been there

> myself),with its stone-hard meditation floor and great noisy

> proud peacocks just a few steps away

> - and that's Good Enough!!

>

> But,then,Jesus Christ,perhaps he too never existed??

> Well,at least the POPE does exist!

> -- It's hardly Good Enough.................

> Hope You're Doing Fine!

> Vibes,

> Flemming

 

 

That body was not Ramana. He told everyone that. Nobody got it.

 

fuzzie

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " <fuzzie_wuz>

wrote:

> Nisargadatta , " yogidahl2000 "

> <Dahl_flemming@h...> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > Hey, Yogidahl:

> > >

> > > How ya doing?

> > >

> > > I tell you the truth, I don't think Ramana ever even existed.

I think

> > > he's a myth. Everybody's got their own idea of who he was.

Which one's

> > > real? Who knows? Who am Ramana? Who am you? Who am anybody?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Yours,

> > >

> > > fuzzie

> >

> > Hey Fuzzie!

> > HaHa,well,yes,it may be that Sri Ramana has never existed!

> > Anyway,his ashram in Tiruvannamalai does exist (I've been there

> > myself),with its stone-hard meditation floor and great noisy

> > proud peacocks just a few steps away

> > - and that's Good Enough!!

> >

> > But,then,Jesus Christ,perhaps he too never existed??

> > Well,at least the POPE does exist!

> > -- It's hardly Good Enough.................

> > Hope You're Doing Fine!

> > Vibes,

> > Flemming

>

>

> That body was not Ramana. He told everyone that. Nobody got it.

>

> fuzzie

 

devi: what did nobody do with it?

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " devianandi " <polansky@m...>

wrote:

> Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz "

<fuzzie_wuz>

 

> >

> >

> > That body was not Ramana. He told everyone that. Nobody got it.

> >

> > fuzzie

>

> devi: what did nobody do with it?

 

Glad to see that Nobody finally appeared on a different forum.

 

Nobody was bored when s/he appeared on another list.

 

Nobody is either highly over, or under valued, depending on one's

POV. Everyone argues about Nobody, and Nobody says nothing at all.

And the great thing is that Nobody really cares what anyone says.

 

Nobody, Nobody, s/he's my wo/man

If Nobody doesn't get it,

Nobody can.

 

Durga

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " devianandi " <polansky@m...> wrote:

> Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " <fuzzie_wuz>

> wrote:

> > Nisargadatta , " yogidahl2000 "

> > <Dahl_flemming@h...> wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Hey, Yogidahl:

> > > >

> > > > How ya doing?

> > > >

> > > > I tell you the truth, I don't think Ramana ever even existed.

> I think

> > > > he's a myth. Everybody's got their own idea of who he was.

> Which one's

> > > > real? Who knows? Who am Ramana? Who am you? Who am anybody?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Yours,

> > > >

> > > > fuzzie

> > >

> > > Hey Fuzzie!

> > > HaHa,well,yes,it may be that Sri Ramana has never existed!

> > > Anyway,his ashram in Tiruvannamalai does exist (I've been there

> > > myself),with its stone-hard meditation floor and great noisy

> > > proud peacocks just a few steps away

> > > - and that's Good Enough!!

> > >

> > > But,then,Jesus Christ,perhaps he too never existed??

> > > Well,at least the POPE does exist!

> > > -- It's hardly Good Enough.................

> > > Hope You're Doing Fine!

> > > Vibes,

> > > Flemming

> >

> >

> > That body was not Ramana. He told everyone that. Nobody got it.

> >

> > fuzzie

>

> devi: what did nobody do with it?

 

Nobody knows.

 

fuzzie

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " Durga " <durgaji108> wrote:

> Nisargadatta , " devianandi " <polansky@m...>

> wrote:

> > Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz "

> <fuzzie_wuz>

>

> > >

> > >

> > > That body was not Ramana. He told everyone that. Nobody got it.

> > >

> > > fuzzie

> >

> > devi: what did nobody do with it?

>

> Glad to see that Nobody finally appeared on a different forum.

>

> Nobody was bored when s/he appeared on another list.

>

> Nobody is either highly over, or under valued, depending on one's

> POV. Everyone argues about Nobody, and Nobody says nothing at all.

> And the great thing is that Nobody really cares what anyone says.

>

> Nobody, Nobody, s/he's my wo/man

> If Nobody doesn't get it,

> Nobody can.

>

> Durga

 

 

What's up, Durga? How ya doing?

 

What can I say? Nobody can say anything.

 

I surrender.

 

fuzzie

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz " <fuzzie_wuz>

wrote:

> Nisargadatta , " devianandi " <polansky@m...>

wrote:

> > Nisargadatta , " fuzzie_wuz "

<fuzzie_wuz>

> > wrote:

> > > Nisargadatta , " yogidahl2000 "

> > > <Dahl_flemming@h...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hey, Yogidahl:

> > > > >

> > > > > How ya doing?

> > > > >

> > > > > I tell you the truth, I don't think Ramana ever even

existed.

> > I think

> > > > > he's a myth. Everybody's got their own idea of who he was.

> > Which one's

> > > > > real? Who knows? Who am Ramana? Who am you? Who am

anybody?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Yours,

> > > > >

> > > > > fuzzie

> > > >

> > > > Hey Fuzzie!

> > > > HaHa,well,yes,it may be that Sri Ramana has never existed!

> > > > Anyway,his ashram in Tiruvannamalai does exist (I've been

there

> > > > myself),with its stone-hard meditation floor and great noisy

> > > > proud peacocks just a few steps away

> > > > - and that's Good Enough!!

> > > >

> > > > But,then,Jesus Christ,perhaps he too never existed??

> > > > Well,at least the POPE does exist!

> > > > -- It's hardly Good Enough.................

> > > > Hope You're Doing Fine!

> > > > Vibes,

> > > > Flemming

> > >

> > >

> > > That body was not Ramana. He told everyone that. Nobody got

it.

> > >

> > > fuzzie

> >

> > devi: what did nobody do with it?

>

> Nobody knows.

>

> fuzzie

 

devi: nobody doesn't know that he doesn't know?