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Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Maharaja wrote a book on astrological compatibility which is somehow not available for download, has even mysterously disappeared?

 

 

According to the Vedic system, the parents would consider the horoscopes of the boy and girl who were to be married. If according to astrological calculations the boy and girl were compatible in every respect, the match was called yoṭaka and the marriage would be accepted. Even fifty years ago, this system was current in Hindu society. Regardless of the affluence of the boy or the personal beauty of the girl, without this astrological compatibility the marriage would not take place. A person is born in one of three categories, known as deva-gaṇa, manusya-gana and rakṣasa-gaṇa. In different parts of the universe there are demigods and demons, and in human society also some people resemble demigods whereas others resemble demons. If according to astrological calculations there was conflict between a godly and a demoniac nature, the marriage would not take place. Similarly, there were calculations of pratiloma and anuloma. The central idea is that if the boy and girl were on an equal level the marriage would be happy, whereas inequality would lead to unhappiness. Because care is no longer taken in marriage, we now find many divorces. Indeed, divorce has now become a common affair, although formerly one’s marriage would continue lifelong, and the affection between husband and wife was so great that the wife would voluntarily die when her husband died or would remain a faithful widow throughout her entire life. Now, of course, this is no longer possible, for human society has fallen to the level of animal society. Marriage now takes place simply by agreement. Dampatye ’bhirucir hetuḥ (Bhāg. 12.2.3). The word abhiruci means “agreement.” If the boy and girl simply agree to marry, the marriage takes place. But when the Vedic system is not rigidly observed, marriage frequently ends in divorce.

SB9.18.24

 

Present Vaishnava institutions more or less have banned Astrology, "Astrology doesnt say when we receive Krsna mercy".

 

Somehow Astrology never says of being for this purpose.

What is astrological compatibility anyway, do we need it also for efficient teamwork?

 

A horoscope has different fields, like in partnership the most important field is communication, the planet displaying your quality to communicate is Mercury.

Mercury displays the way you think and the way you talk.

Now there're four elements, Water, Fire, Air, Earth.

What we do now is to find out if the Mercury of your partner/teammate is in a compatible element of your Mercury. Let's say your Mercury is in Capricorn, element Earth, your partner's in Sattigarius element Fire. Element Earth and Fire are not compatible, communication will be easily prone to misunderstanding, "I didn't say that, you misunderstood."

 

For a married couple a fatal situation.

Moon, emotional requirements, living quarters are also attributed to Moon. Living with a person in the same household requires compatible Moons.

Let's say your partner has Moon in Lion, element Fire, your Moon is in element Water, Pisces, you cannot live together in the same household for a longer periode of time.

 

Element Water is not compatible to element Fire. Fire is compatible to element Air, Aquarius, Gemini, Libra is in element Air.

Then Venus, quality of how one relates to others, how you relate to others. Venus also stands for esthetics and fine art. Believe it or not there're people getting married with incompatible Venus. Reason is often Mars.

 

Mars stands for physical constitution, bodily ability to assert oneself and the quality how you quarrel. If there's a compatibility of Mars there's also sexual attraction and that's what many people consider as most important.

Incompatible Mars causes quarreling.

 

Sun stands for personality and Ascendant for the temperament. There're Lions with Ascendant Cancer what makes a Lion introverted, a Lion with Aquarius Ascendant, extroverted.

 

If for example Moon of husband and wife are incompatible but Moon of husband is in direct conjunction with a personal planet of wife, this incompatibility is balanced.

 

The capability of having a relationship is looked at in the individual horoscopes.

These are some basics from Steven Arroyo's books, Astrology, Karma, Transformation and Psychology of the Four Elements.

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I would experiment with this concept. But off the bat it doesn't sound promising, as it violates more basic rules. For example, water can be either 4 OR 12 houses away from fire. So in the example of Aries / Pisces your theory would be in line with more basic rules in that it would be a 2/12 relationship with is one of passive disharmony. But in the example of Aries / Cancer your theory would be out of line with basic rules because it would be a 4/10 relationship which is a "contrast" relationship which is always a significant or strong relationship, but which would depend upon other factors to determine the nature of the relationship.

 

ALL 4/10 relationships are formed by incompatible bhootas / elements - so your theory seems out of line with more accepted methods.

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I would experiment with this concept. But off the bat it doesn't sound promising, as it violates more basic rules. For example, water can be either 4 OR 12 houses away from fire. So in the example of Aries / Pisces your theory would be in line with more basic rules in that it would be a 2/12 relationship with is one of passive disharmony. But in the example of Aries / Cancer your theory would be out of line with basic rules because it would be a 4/10 relationship which is a "contrast" relationship which is always a significant or strong relationship, but which would depend upon other factors to determine the nature of the relationship.

 

ALL 4/10 relationships are formed by incompatible bhootas / elements - so your theory seems out of line with more accepted methods.

 

Didn't see your post since this forum is daily filled up with dozens cries for help and distress calls.

 

Don't understand what you're saying. I'm not talking about houses but the elements. In what element a planet is situated, either in Earth, Water, Fire, Air.

 

Let's say you make a Fire and someone else pours Water on it, your Fire is gone. Let's say your Fire doesnt burn properly and someone blows Air in your Fire, it starts to gain power.

 

Lets say you have a piece of Earth and you want to grow something. Someone comes and pours Water on it - the Earth becomes even more fertile and things grow. Earth and Water are compatible.

 

In the same way, Air and Water is not compatible, Air dries out Water. Go to any dessert, lots of winds, Air, but no Water.

 

So these are not "my theories, or speculations" as you suggest, but basic common sense about compatibility of the Elements, even a child can understand, like when someone needs Air he can't get it when diving into Water.

 

Someone having Moon in element Water, he/she won't get emotional feedback from someone having Moon in Air or Fire.

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Prabhupada mentioning some basics about the elements water and fire.

 

"Just like fire and fire, there is no reaction, but in fire and water there is reaction. Between fire and fire there is no reaction, but fire and water there is reaction. Similarly, sattva-guṇa-sattva-guṇa, there is no reaction. Tamo- guṇa-tamo-guṇa there is no reaction. It is… In English it is called incompatible."

 

Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 7.9.26

by His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda

Māyāpur, March 4, 1976

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Didn't see your post since this forum is daily filled up with dozens cries for help and distress calls.

 

Don't understand what you're saying. I'm not talking about houses but the elements. In what element a planet is situated, either in Earth, Water, Fire, Air.

 

Let's say you make a Fire and someone else pours Water on it, your Fire is gone. Let's say your Fire doesnt burn properly and someone blows Air in your Fire, it starts to gain power.

 

Lets say you have a piece of Earth and you want to grow something. Someone comes and pours Water on it - the Earth becomes even more fertile and things grow. Earth and Water are compatible.

 

In the same way, Air and Water is not compatible, Air dries out Water. Go to any dessert, lots of winds, Air, but no Water.

 

So these are not "my theories, or speculations" as you suggest, but basic common sense about compatibility of the Elements, even a child can understand, like when someone needs Air he can't get it when diving into Water.

 

Someone having Moon in element Water, he/she won't get emotional feedback from someone having Moon in Air or Fire.

 

Ah then perhaps you are not aware that the 1st Bhava/Rashi is fire, 2nd is earth, 3rd is air, 4th is water?

 

see: http://www.vedicastrologer.net/article.astrology_basics_signs.php

 

Your common sense theory is incorrect, because the person with moon in fire would be, let's say Sagittarius (there are 3 fire signs to choose from, Aries, Leo and Sag). Now if the water moon is Scorpio (there are 3, Cancer, Scorpio and Pisces), you are correct there will be difficulty in relating because Scorpio is 2/12 from Sag. But if the water moon is Pisces there will not be this difficulty.

 

Thus I don't believe your common sense theory would hold up in practice.

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Ah then perhaps you are not aware that the 1st Bhava/Rashi is fire, 2nd is earth, 3rd is air, 4th is water?

 

 

"Ah then perhaps you are not aware that the 1st Bhava/Rashi is fire, 2nd is earth, 3rd is air, 4th is water?"

 

To say "1st Bhava/Rashi is fire" is not correct. The Bhava is fire, but the Rashi might be something else. It is through the Rashis (signs) that the planets express their nature, not through the bhavas, houses.

 

Yes, you're right 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th are assigned to fire, earth, air and water.

But, the quality of planets is immediately changed when these houses/bhavas have different signs/rashis.

 

Why do you interpret let's say Moon in 4th house to be in water element when the sign says, Moon in Aries? When Moon is in the sign Aries it is in fiery element, although 4th house is assigned to water element.

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