Is Guru Really Omniscient?

[Murali_Mohan_das 0]

When we are swept away by that current of Divinity, there will be no roots and branches of logic and reason to which to cling.

 

When we willingly breathe it into our lungs, all air of mundanity will be expelled.

 

When we are submerged in it, there will be no other consideration.

 

 

But is this true? How many recognize the real thing even when right before our eyes? It is said that many who saw Krsna thought of Him as an ordinary person or a demigod but rare was the person who recognized Him as the Supreme Lord.

 

I think it all depends on the desire of the individual and krsna in the heart who is fulfilling that desire. Most don't want to the real devotee and prefer to be cheated. Some of us only want a little peek now and then. Rare is the soul who is willing to see and acknowledge the devotee for who he actually is.

[Guest guest]

 

you obviously don't know anything about the fundamental principles of the Saraswata parampara.

 

your "traditionalism" is just a pipe dream and a fantasy.

 

there is nothing traditional about the Saraswata parampara.

 

 

Srila Bhaktisiddhanta worked very hard to bring solid vedic principles back into Gaudiya Vaishnavism. The "guru can do anything" crowd works very hard to undo all his work. Saraswata sampradaya is a lot more traditional than most Iskcon people like to admit. They just like making up stuff as they go along.

[Guruvani 0]

 

Srila Bhaktisiddhanta worked very hard to bring solid vedic principles back into Gaudiya Vaishnavism. The "guru can do anything" crowd works very hard to undo all his work. Saraswata sampradaya is a lot more traditional than most Iskcon people like to admit. They just like making up stuff as they go along.

 

oh, yeah sure.

 

find "Bhagavat Parampara" anywhere in traditional lines.

 

he took sannyasa from a picture.

 

If we follow the "tradition" then Bhaktivinode Thakur is not even in the Saraswata parampara.

 

The disciplic succession that Saraswati Thakur gave follows the siksha line.

He didn't even recognize the diksha guru of Bhaktivindode.

 

real traditional..................... only in a pipe dream.

 

fine any Bhagavat parampara in the "tradition".

 

you are obviously in denial about "tradition".

 

the Saraswata tradition started with Saraswati Thakur.

he broke from tradition with his "Bhagavat parampara".

 

But, I am not disagreeing.

I fully agree with the Bhagavat parampara.

 

Tradition is for jati-goswamis and professional gurus of other sorts.

 

you need to do your homework on the Saraswata "tradition".

 

It is based on leaving "tradition" for something more dynamic.

 

vedic?

 

karma-yoga is Vedic.

Jnana-yoga is Vedic.

 

Vedic?

That is another myth.

[Guest guest]

 

The disciplic succession that Saraswati Thakur gave follows the siksha line.

He didn't even recognize the diksha guru of Bhaktivindode.

 

real traditional..................... only in a pipe dream.

 

fine any Bhagavat parampara in the "tradition".

 

you are obviously in denial about "tradition".

 

 

you mean Brahma took diksa from Krsna? How about Narada? or Vyasa? Sukadeva? These are real situations from VEDIC tradition. Vedic tradition is very much siksa based. our Saraswata tradition is both Pancaratric and Vedic, combining the best and most practical elements of both traditions.

 

the Gaudiya parivars are traditional too, and deserve much more respect than you give them, as our line up to Bhaktivinoda comes from them.

[Guruvani 0]

 

you mean Brahma took diksa from Krsna? How about Narada? or Vyasa? Sukadeva? These are real situations from VEDIC tradition. Vedic tradition is very much siksa based. our Saraswata tradition is both Pancaratric and Vedic, combining the best and most practical elements of both traditions.

 

the Gaudiya parivars are traditional too, and deserve much more respect than you give them, as our line up to Bhaktivinoda comes from them.

 

it is a spiritual current of spiritual thought.

the formal diksha monopoly that goes around today is cheating and lies.

 

cheap formal diksha is not what Saraswata Gaudiya is about.

it is about the spiritual thought and spiritual conception.

 

cheating gurus and their cheap formal diksha has nothing to do with Saraswata Gaudiya.

 

cheap formal diksha is the cheating process of cheaters.

 

Saraswata Gaudiya is not about cheap formal diksha and these cheaters.