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  1. The Bhagavatam says that Ravana was trying to build a stairway to heaven. I'm a little confused here. Indraloka is millions of light years away. If Ravana was such a greatly brilliant materialistic person with such an advanced civilization on Lanka, then how he could be so stupid as to think he could build a stairway to heaven millions of miles high? Who could even climb that stairway if they managed to build it? It just sounds really weird that even Ravana could possibly think he could build a stairway to heaven. Does anybody know anything that would make this claim of the Bhagavatam sound a little more realistic? did Ravana have some special rocket or something that he wanted to fly on the stairway to heaven. I mean, how could even Ravana possibly think that anybody could build a stairway that is millions of miles high or that anybody could climb that far if he did? I am having a problem trying to figure this out. It just sounds so ridiculous that we are supposed to believe that some big demon thought he could build a stairway millions of miles high to heaven. somebody help me................
  2. Thus, the dog attained it's spiritual body (siddha deha) simply by chanting Hare Krishna. siddha-deha pāñā kukkura vaikuṇṭhete gelā No other secret formula was necessary.
  3. Guruvani

    How Did you Discover Krishna?

    I saw the Nectar of Devotion by Srila Prabhupada and within one minute I knew the whole direction of my life had been discovered in that book. In a few days I was able to get a copy of that book from Karma Records in Broadripple Village near Purdue University and I read it several times while tripping on LSD. That changed the whole direction of my life.
  4. The Christian conception of Christ, God and the power of faith is indeed a very beautiful religious conception. The Christian theology represents centuries of human religious thought and refinement. Though, I find it to be very beautiful and inspiring, I do not accept the historical Jesus of Christianity. But, in the ultimate issue does it really matter if Jesus was a real person or not? Doesn't Paramatma understand that this beautiful religious conception is really aimed at him and thereby accepts this religious sentiment as sincere devotion to God?
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    Where is the fault in ISKCON?

    In his last days, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur made some statements and endorsements concerning his leading disciples. Concerning Srila Sridhar Maharaja he said "I am satisfied that after I am gone there is at least one disciple left behind who can represent my conceptions". So, those who would say that Srila Sridhar Maharaja advocated or preached some jnana-misra bhakti regarding the origin and the fall of the jiva are directly challenging the judgement of Srila Saraswati Thakur and the endorsement Srila Sridhar Maharaja by Srila Saraswati Thakur. As such, concerning the authenticity and the philosophical understanding of Srila Sridhar Maharaja, we cannot but conclude that anyone who challenges his statements and positions on philosophical issues is directly insulting the judgement of Srila Saraswati Thakur and challenging his prounouncements. No other disciple of Srila Saraswati Thakur enjoys the kind of endorsement and support that Srila Sridhar Maharaja received from Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur. As such, we can conclude, according to the statement and pronouncement of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur, that any philosophical issues, discrepancies or controversies that might arise in the Saraswati sampradaya after his passing are best put before Srila Sridhar Maharaja for clarification. Therefore, the accusation that Srila Sridhar Maharaja has espoused erroneous siddhanta in terms of the Gaudiya shastra is very much a insult to the authority and the intelligence of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur. Even Srila Prabhupada Bhaktivedanta Swami had full faith and confidence in the philosophical erudition of Srila Sridhar Maharaja and just before his passing advised some of his leading disciples to consult Srila Sridhar Maharaja on philosphical issues. So, considering the endorsement of both Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur and Srila Prabhupada Bhaktivedanta Swami, any philosphical discrepancies that have come up since the passing of Srila Prabhupada should be laid to rest by the conclusions of Srila Sridhar Maharaja. None else has received such authoritative endorsement from the founder of the Saraswati sampradaya or his great world preacher disciple Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada.
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    tatashta shakti - From my view

    This Gauragopal das from Australia does not speak for the majority of disciples of Srila Prabhupada, Srila Prabhupada or most of the ISKCON devotees. He is a renegade thinker with some serious misunderstandings that he has cultivated alone without good association or guidance from senior ISKCON devotees. He really isn't worth all the attention that he is getting on this forum, as he is just an ISKCON outsiders who enjoyes agitating and irritating people with his sleepervadi nonsense. The best thing to do at this point is just ignore Gauragopal das and let him have his fall-from-goloka fantasy if that is what floats his little boat.
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    Not vegans, cow protectors.

    Oh, so the nuclear energy that you are using to surf the net is just fine and dandy? As long as you have a computer and posting on forums you are part of the "great sinister movement". Do you know how many poisons were released into the environment to create the computer you are using now? Silicon Valley from where most of these computers come from has some of the most toxic water in the world. You aren't aloof from the "great sinister movement". You are bought into it just like everyone else.
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    Not vegans, cow protectors.

    The fact is that most ISKCON temples around the world used commercial cows milk in large quantity since day one in ISKCON and with the knowledge and approval of Srila Prabhupada. I worked in several ISKCON temples I can remember well the many gallons of milk in plastic jugs from the grocery store that went through ISKCON temples. Srila Prabhupada never ever made an issue out of using commercial cows milk or it would not have been practiced in ISKCON during the time of Srila Prabhupada. The big stink about commercial cows milk is simply a pseudo-vegan on this forum trying to brag about his milkless diet as if that makes him some special holy person. Srila Prabhupada didn't object to using commercial cows milk. So, I don't have a problem with it even though a few hypotcrites around here think they are holier-than-thou because they don't use commerical dairy milk products. Who is protecting the carrots and celery from the juicers of these Vegans? See, carrots and celery and many vegetables have to be killed in order to eat them. It is not like taking a nut or a fruit off a tree. These vegans think that killing vegetables is karma free. It is NOT. the cow is not killed to get the milk. The carrot is killed to get it's juice.
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    Not vegans, cow protectors.

    As he drives off into the sunset in his car fueled by the blood of an unprotected mother Earth.
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    Basic Teachings - Too Difficult?

    so, the idea is that Krishna creates the material just as a place for renegade jivas to come and enjoy their senses without any reformation or evolution in consciousness? If there is no evolution of the soul then how is it that the jiva evolves from lower species of life to higher species? Is that just a material thing, or is the consciousness of the jiva evolving, expanding and growing? The material world is just a place with no higher purpose than lettings jivas run wild and do anything they want? No plan for growth, improvement and advancement of consciousness?
  12. Guruvani

    Purification according to Chaitanya...?

    Well, if we are going to promote recordings, then listen to this. http://krishna.org/RealAudio/2000/07/HareKrishnaMantra.ram
  13. Guruvani

    Not vegans, cow protectors.

    You aren't doing anything to protect cows. You don't keep cows or protect cows. You are just laying your hackneyed Vegan holier-than-thou trip on everyone and being a false protector of cows. Let me know when you get some cows to protect. I will send you a bail of hay. Talking Vegan nonsense on a forum and putting down people who use dairy products has nothing to do with cow protection. You are just as guilty as anyone. You aren't doing anything really to protect cows except blowing hot air.
  14. Guruvani

    Not vegans, cow protectors.

    Commercial dairy cow. (see how beautiful she is) Please don't deprive her of the chance to offer her milk to Krishna!! Don't support cow slaughter - support cows!!
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    Purification according to Chaitanya...?

    Chanting the Maha-mantra is most recommeded. Please try to find a Vaishnava in the Gaudiya sampradaya for hearing this mantra directly from his mouth. If you have already heard the mantra from devotees in the Gaudiya sampradaya, then you just need to practice this chanting on beads. At least, find a personal siksha guru in the Gaudiya sampradaya. On this forum, I would recommend Babhru prabhu as one very nice devotee to take guidance from. Get personal with a Vaishnava. Don't try to find all the answers on the forum.
  16. Guruvani

    Did NASA land men on the Moon?

    Maybe it was just an old VW and your friend is confused. Mahak has become the man of conspiracy theories lately. I thought Mahak dealt with reality, not hair-brained conspiracy theories? Why do you waste your thinking faculties on such speculation and paranoid theories?
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    Not vegans, cow protectors.

    With all this talk about cow slaughter maybe we could take a moment to think about all the human babies that get slaughtered everyday around the world in abortion clinics? The world is full of injustice. Refusing to offer the milk of commerical dairy cows is a very lame idea because it prevents those cows from doing the greatest thing they could do which is have their milk offered to Krishna. If any cows needs that mercy and that opportunity it is the commercial dairy cows who are Krishna's cows that have been kidnapped by some demon dairy farmer. Let's stand up for the commercial dairy cows and offer their milk to Krishna so that Krishna and the cows will all be happy. It is not supporting cow slaughter. It is trying to help the cows acquire some sukriti so that in their next life they can have a better situation.
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    Not vegans, cow protectors.

    Has anybody stopped to think that maybe the cows in commercial dairies get some benefit if the milk they produce is bought and offered to Krishna. After all, they are Krishna's cows. Why shouldn't milk from Krishna's cows be offered to Krishna so that they can get some benefit? Anyone who thinks they have it all figured out and that offering milk from commercial dairies offends Krishna has no proof that Krishna does not accept the milk from cows that get slaughtered. It is really up to Krishna which milk he accepts and which milk he doesn't. I find it hard to believe that Krishna doesn't accept milk from any of his cows even if some demon dairy farmer kills them when they aren't good producers anymore. Krishna loves cows - Govinda. Is he prejudiced against the poor cows that are slaughtered by some demon? I wouldn't think so. Such cows need love and affection and a chance to offer their milk to Krishna.
  19. Guruvani

    Not vegans, cow protectors.

    I know for sure that for many years Sivarama Swami consumed dairy products that came from commercial dairies. I was with him in Chicago and also on Tamal's farm in Oklahoma. Maybe he finally got in a situation where he can only take dairy products from protected cows and that is fine and good. But, not everybody has that option.
  20. Guruvani

    Basic Teachings - Too Difficult?

    No, that is not what it means. Like Bhaktivinode explains in Jaiva Dharma the jiva soul is incomplete and lacking in sandhini and hladini shakti. The soul is not dependent on the material world for completion but rather on the ambassadors of Vaikuntha who come to the material world and give knowledge and devotion through their association and instructions.
  21. No, I did 6 years ISKCON and 2 years at the San Jose Mandira with the fellows involved with Srila Sridhar Maharaja. Then, I moved out of the temple and have never lived in a temple since then. I lived several years in Badger in that devotee community and have since lived in Florida near the devotee community here, though I certainly haven't taken advantage of that for the last few years. I have always stayed near and around devotees since leaving the movement. But, I don't qualify as a Hare Krishna anymore. I am just a pious karmi. ( I hope)
  22. Guruvani

    Not vegans, cow protectors.

    Yes, soybean eating contributes to global warming. Soybeans have digestive inhibitors and cause flatulence. These Vegans are causing global warming with their indigestion and bad gas passing. Without the calcium in milk the digestive system doesn't work right and thus greenhouse gasses are emitted in huge quantity by Vegans.
  23. Guruvani

    Not vegans, cow protectors.

    I don't know of any Vedic injunction that says that the person who buys milk from a farmer who eventually kills the cows is also a party to the cow killing. I think the accusation that it is so is an unsubstantiated claim that cannot be supported with Vedic shastric authority. Ideally, milk should be bought from farmers who do not kill cows, but if that is not possible then the poor cows should not be prohibited from giving milk just because she will be killed at some later date. Milk has been described as "liquid religion". It doesn't become evil because the cow gets killed later. The Vegan religion feels all warm and fuzzy about themselves because they don't drink milk, but they will suck the blood of mother Earth and drive cars. They engage in violence to mother Earth and all mankind by driving gas powered vehicles, but they want to be all self-righteous and arrogant about the fact they don't use dairy products. Big deal. whooopeeee! Vegans are hypocrites and bigots. They drink carrot juice till they turn orange like a carrot. Maybe they are working on becoming a carrot in their next life?
  24. Guruvani

    Not vegans, cow protectors.

    Well, I don't know about all that, but people do change and show different aspects of their personality under different situations that sometimes turn out to be different than we thought. Many of my old Gobrothers have gone in directions that I can no longer appreciate. I guess it could happen to Sivarama Swami as well. At any rate, I remember him as a very serious devotee, even if he doesn't share some of my personal viewpoints on some issues.
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