bhoot,pret,pesaach sadhana

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this is vikrant here...

i have a important seriouse question on bhoot,Pret,Pisaach sadhana...

one of my friend who does not himself practise much tantra sadhanas but has read a lot of books on tantra+sadhanas and is quite knowledgable in the flied of tantra+sadhanas told me some time back that a person who does bhoot/Pret/Pisaach sadhana and succeds in geting siddhi of that bhoot or Pret or Pisaach(depending on which sadhana he is doing),then this person does not get mukti after his death and after his death he will have to go with that particular bhoot or pret or Pisaach spirit(depending on which sadhana he has done) in its particular yoni and serve it...

so if a person has acquired bhoot siddhi thru bhoot sadhana and has then taken that bhoot's help for geting jobs done during his lifetime then this person after his death wil have to go with that bhoot in its yoni and serve that bhoot,and this person after his death wil not get mukti till the end of time or till someone gets him mukti...

similarly if a person has acquired Pret siddhi thru pret sadhana and has then taken that Pret's help for geting jobs done during his lifetime then this person after his death wil have to go with that Pret spirit in its yoni and serve that pret,and this person after his death wil not get mukti till the end of time or till someone gets him mukti..

similary for pisaach sadhana..

NOW HOW TRUE IS THIS ABOVE..if this is true then to what extent is this true?

also if a person has been initiated/guided into any 1 of the above sadhanas by a guru then wil that guru also be accountable in some way and would the guru would also not get mukti after his death..??

i do not completely trust what my friend has said however this is something very seriouse which my friend just brought up..

so i request all (tantra+mantra+sadhana)knowledgable people here to share thier honest thoughts on this and shed some light on this topic

 

 

 

Vikrant

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Jai Gurudev

Dear Guru bhais,

I should not be misunderstood when I say that we should not do Bhoot,Pret and Pishach Sadhna. I again read the account of Karna Pishachini Sadhna given in Book "Tantrik Sadhnayei". It did not fail me to fill with horror of doing such Sadhnas like it does everytime I read it. Gurudev has been quoted in the book as saying that he has stopped giving Vam Margi Sadhnas and he wants to give only Mantric and Dakshin Margi Sadhnas, as Vam Margi Sadhnas don't suit his temprament. He had denied accepting the person as his desciple for doing Vam Margi Sadhna of Karna Pishachini and instructed the person to do this Sadhna at his own place and never ask him for any other help/sadhna. This made the person doing the Pishach Sadhna wholly responsible Karmically for his acts which he is repenting heavily.

Our sole aim in this life is to raise ourselves spiritually than to degarde ourselves for petty short term gains. It is true that Vam Margi methods may be quick but there are very powerfull Dakshin Margi Sadhnas to get quick results and which raise us spiritually. If a Vam Margi Sadhna helps to lift spiritually then it is desirable, like Kundalini Jagran with Vam Margi method is easier for a Grahisth (married person).

It depends on the state of individual Sadhak which Sadhna he chooses. If diamonds, Pearls, Gold, silver and one banana are put before a small child, he will surely pick up banana as he does not know the value of diamonds, pearls, gold and silver. Similarly Pujya Gurudev has all kinds of priceless treasures to give but only an immature Sadhak will choose to do some lowly Sadhna instead of priceless jewels that he can give.

It is true thatGuru gives Vatsalya to Shishya like a mother gives to his children. If a child is very small (abodh) and spoils mothers clothes by pissing then a mother will nver mind it and will quietly clean his clothes. But when a child grows mother will expect the child to learn toilet manners. Pujya Nand Kishore Srimali had said a very important thing on New Year Sadhna Shivir at Delhi on 6 & 7 Jaunary 2007. He called upon all shishyas to grow up and stop behaving like children. Is this not a hint what Gurudev want from us?

Now it is on the Vivek of each Sadhak to choose his path as per his calling in life.

Puneet

Nikhilleshwareye Namah.

 

 

 

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Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram

 

 

Karan Pishachini sadhna has been published in MTYV also,

describing the procedure suitable for every person. There also a

sadhak

describes his meeting with Gurudev, when Gurudev suggested

him "karan Pishachini"

sadhna. That sadhak had some fears and doubts about that because he

was a brahamin and gayatri upaasak. Gurudev told him this method is

suitable for every one and it does not require to perform

nauseating rituals while doing this sadhna.

If some sadhaks in this group remember the issue year and month of

that MTYV issue, they may tell you.

The sadhna given in the book "Tantrik Siddhiyan " is also revealed

by Gurudev to a sadhak. In this book it also mentioned that these

sadhnas should be performed only after consulting Gurudev. No one of

us in this group is saying that a person should straightaway start

any sadhna, without caring for the fact that blessings of Guru in

central for any progress.

 

There is no point in comparing between these to sadhnas because both

are

authentic, for sadhaks of different temperaments.

Similarly the same principle applies to "Bhoot siddhi" sadhna,

which is published time to time in MTYV issues.

Literature provided by Gurudham about sadhna is not substitute for

Guru but an effort to disseminate knowledge to more sadhaks and

people in general. In this way the burden on Gurudham is reduced so

that they may use their time in their own productive activities

instead of telling sadhaks about various things again and again.

Every person is different in his thoughts, emotions, strengths &

weaknesses. Therefore if a person is not able to make up his mind

then he should take advice of Gurudev in choosing sadhna.

 

We should accept the fact that we do not have the caliber to

understand various complex aspects of sadhnas that is the reason why

Gurudev tell a person only about what sadhna to do or what diksha to

take. They do not waste any time in discussion of any other topics.

Questions and counter questions about the secret aspects of sadhna

require a sadhak to attain some minimum level of proficiency in

sadhnas. When we will reach that level we will surely get

opportunity to get answers to our secret queries. The sooner we

accept this fact the better it is for us as sadhkas.

 

We even do not know what "Vaam Margi sadhna" means. If you have any

doubts then take up February 2005 issue of MTYV. In it vaam margi

sadhnas have been published. They are completely different from the

Vaam Margi sadhnas whose image we have in our minds.

If someone does not consider those sadhnas as vaam margi sadhnas,

then as a sadhak

it is his loss only

 

Therefore there is no point in comparing sadhnas from the same

source i.e. our

Gurudham. A sadhak doing "kundalini Jaagran" sadhna should not

consider himself superior to a sadhak doing "apsara sadhna". You

find these words written in Gurudev's literature. All sadhnas are

important and have definite purpose. There is nothing childish in

doing any sadhna if we follow instructions given about that sadhna.

Being childish means to willfully ignore the instructions and put

oneself in unnecessary danger.

 

 

Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, Puneet Vasishta <pkv_vash

wrote:

>

> Jai Gurudev

> Dear Guru bhais,

> I should not be misunderstood when I say that we should not do

Bhoot,Pret and Pishach Sadhna. I again read the account of Karna

Pishachini Sadhna given in Book "Tantrik Sadhnayei". It did not fail

me to fill with horror of doing such Sadhnas like it does everytime

I read it. Gurudev has been quoted in the book as saying that he has

stopped giving Vam Margi Sadhnas and he wants to give only Mantric

and Dakshin Margi Sadhnas, as Vam Margi Sadhnas don't suit his

temprament. He had denied accepting the person as his desciple for

doing Vam Margi Sadhna of Karna Pishachini and instructed the person

to do this Sadhna at his own place and never ask him for any other

help/sadhna. This made the person doing the Pishach Sadhna wholly

responsible Karmically for his acts which he is repenting heavily.

> Our sole aim in this life is to raise ourselves spiritually than

to degarde ourselves for petty short term gains. It is true that Vam

Margi methods may be quick but there are very powerfull Dakshin

Margi Sadhnas to get quick results and which raise us spiritually.

If a Vam Margi Sadhna helps to lift spiritually then it is

desirable, like Kundalini Jagran with Vam Margi method is easier for

a Grahisth (married person).

> It depends on the state of individual Sadhak which Sadhna he

chooses. If diamonds, Pearls, Gold, silver and one banana are put

before a small child, he will surely pick up banana as he does not

know the value of diamonds, pearls, gold and silver. Similarly Pujya

Gurudev has all kinds of priceless treasures to give but only an

immature Sadhak will choose to do some lowly Sadhna instead of

priceless jewels that he can give.

> It is true thatGuru gives Vatsalya to Shishya like a mother

gives to his children. If a child is very small (abodh) and spoils

mothers clothes by pissing then a mother will nver mind it and will

quietly clean his clothes. But when a child grows mother will expect

the child to learn toilet manners. Pujya Nand Kishore Srimali had

said a very important thing on New Year Sadhna Shivir at Delhi on 6

& 7 Jaunary 2007. He called upon all shishyas to grow up and stop

behaving like children. Is this not a hint what Gurudev want from us?

> Now it is on the Vivek of each Sadhak to choose his path as per

his calling in life.

>

> Puneet

> Nikhilleshwareye Namah.

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Dear member of this group,

Please, help me with the questions below:

a)Is it absolutely necessary to receive diksha for sadhana success?

b)I notice that many sadhana materials are very expensive.So, what about these with financial problems?Do you know what is advised in these occasions?

Regards,

Sahaja

[ronin 0]

 

this is vikrant here...

a person who does bhoot/Pret/Pisaach sadhana and succeds in geting siddhi of that bhoot or Pret or Pisaach(depending on which sadhana he is doing),then this person does not get mukti after his death and after his death he will have to go with that particular bhoot or pret or Pisaach spirit(depending on which sadhana he has done) in its particular yoni and serve it...

 

 

Bhoot, prets & pisach are nothing but spirits who have not got next birth. So if you get their siddhi & make them work for you, you also have to nourish them with whatever they desire. There is no such thing as free lunch in this world. You give for what you take. If you do not give those spirits next birth before you die then they drag you to their loks & you will not get moksha unless someone who is living makes arrangements for your tarpans or does kriyas for your moksha.

[rashmipittsburgh 0]

Hi Ronin...but do u agree the dharmmarg is the best ? i mean sadhana via right ppl is better..as ultimately evil doesnt stay for long...

[TarunSharma 0]

CAN SOMEONE --- PLZZZ HELP ME LEARN - BHOOT SIDDHI / PRET SIDDHI ----- I HAVE BEEN MANY TIMES IN THE SAMSHAN / KABRISTAN TO LEARN ALL THIS - BUT DIDNT FIND A PROPER ROUTE - PLZZ HELP ME LEARING ALL THIS -

[rahul shrivastav 0]

Jai Gurudev

 

First of all...

Its totally nonsense that any person who have bhoot siddhi, does not get mukti after his death and he will have to go with that particular bhoot in that yoni and serve it...

What if we have more that 1 ghosts as our servent??

or one bhoot and one pishaach??

 

Both of them will take a house on rent and i will be their servent after my death?... just think before jumping on any conclusion.. totally nonsense..

 

Any person interested in Bhoot sadhna can have all procedure by Nov-2005 addition of MTYV (Mantra-Tantra-Yantra-Vigyaan).. A very nice sadhna was published on that addition.

 

@Puneet ..

Gurudev called upon all shishyas to grow up and stop behaving like children.. Its simply means to behave like a sadhak...Not like a bhakt, pujaari or sometimes mad person.

 

I have experienced many sadhna camps and along with great knowledge, i found a lot of disappoints there also. I found most of peoples interested in only singing, dancing, cheering.

They don't have to do anything with what guruji says on camps. They always use to shouting "Jai-gurudev, Jai-gurudev" with their blank minds. These all is childish.

Magazine has a name.."Mantra-Tantra-Yantra-Vigyaan" ... not "Bhajan-pujan-thumka-Vigyaan"

 

So that is what gurudev called upon us. Grow up..Be a Sadhak.

 

For any quarry about any kind of Sadhna, any one can call me.. any time..

 

 

Regards,

Rahul Shrivastav

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