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September 15, 2004

Dear Sir,

Sorry for intervening in your session, but I am curious to know the logic behind

jupiter losing its strength in leo and hence this email.

Yes, your dictum worked in my brother's case also.

My brother has sun+jup in leo but in 8th, no doubt he is very intelligent but

did not do much well in academics and yes, he did fail once in his 10th class.

With my half knowledge I thought the reason to be the positioning of both the

planets in 8th, but now curious to know why jup losses strength in leo.

But though both planets are positioned in 8th, both father and son shares good

relation with each other.

Thanks,

Shubhangi

On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 Chandrashekhar wrote :

>Dear Dhira,

>There you see the dictum working. Is it not?

>Regards,

>Chandrashekhar.

>

>Dhira Krsna BCS wrote:

>

>>Dear Chandrashekhar,

>>

>>>In your case it is in Leo. Jupiter looses strength in Leo. Any problems

>>>in education?

>>>

>>

>>No, except for one year I didn't study and failed. That was in 1986-87, my

>>first year of university. Interesting, I get Vimshottari Ven-Rahu-Jup and

>>Sat for that year.

>>

>>Yours,

>>Dhira Krsna dasa,

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September 15, 2004

Dear Chandrashekhar ji

You have written about jupiter losing strength in Leo.Is Jupiters

movement out of its exaltation place the reason behind your

statement.Also similar to a case which you have explained sometime

back,will aspect of sun on this jupiter strengthen it.

Respect

Pradeep

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wrote:

> Dear Vishnu,

> The dictum rarely fails.

> Chandrashekhar.

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> Vishnu Jandhyala wrote:

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> > Dear Sri Chandrashekhar & Dhira,

> >

> > I have Jupiter in 2nd in moolatrikona. I would say I have seen

the ugly

> > side of it.

> >

> > warm regards,

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> >

> > --- Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Dhira,

> > > In your case it is in Leo. Jupiter looses strength in Leo. Any

> > > problems

> > > in education?

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > Dhira Krsna BCS wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > >

> > > > It's in COVA that when Jupiter occupies 2nd house, it will

not

> > > count for

> > > > karaka bhava nyasa. By the way, I have Jupiter in 2nd house.

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September 16, 2004

Dear Yogesh,

Your fourth house has Ketu and 12th Mars and Mercury, thus both the 4th

and 12th house are afflicted. Both Ketu and Mars have strength from

Navamsha, so it would not be impossible that you settle abroad. 12th

Lord from 12th house is no doubt well placed and strong, but we have to

consider the 12th house itself too.

Chandrashekhar.

Jitjag wrote:

Hi Chandrashekhar ji...

As I promised to post

my jupiter antardasa in Venus mahadasa exp...

Beginning of Jupiter dasa

changed job .. (01/Jun/2001) .

Elder brother got married

in same month... and started tragedy on family front, worst phase of

my life on family front. got promotion every year almost throughout my

career which continued even in this period.

During same time as i was

aware of some basics of astrology kept myself engaged in short trips to

diff. part of India for business purpose and

tried to keep myelf away from any foreign projects. But starting on

2003 because of project work came to USA for 45 days (09/Mar/2003) and due to my

work

client extended me for long term . went back to India during Feb 2004 . and

came back in same month . but still at family front there was great

chaos .. even during vacaion could get any rest...

Jupiter in Venus period

In short :

Family front :

Disaster... ( as posted by Trivedi ji)

Finance : was good ..

made enough money... ( As posted by you).

Travel : Came to USA .... (As posted by you)

Hope this will help you

all ...

I have one question ..

Many people told me that i have some combination in horoscope that will

make me to settle down here.. but i as per B.V. Ramans' book how to

judge horoscope if the 12th house from langa lord and it's lord is

placed fav. person earns his livehood in his own country .. in my case

12th lord from saturn is venus which is exalted .. what does it

indicate?

Bye,

Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear

Yogesh,

You should have had a good period as Jupiter is in own house. Now doubt

some problems could have been there as jupiter is also 11th lord ,

perhaps in second half of the Jup Antar. Some travel or even marriage,

if not already married in 2003 as Jupiter had joined the 7th in transit

then. Some problems regarding associates could have arisen in 2003.

Chandrashekhar.

Jitjag wrote:

hi Mukund and Chandrashekhar ji,

I have Venus and Jupiter in Second house ... My

birth details is as follow ...

Birth date : 5th March 1975

Time : 7.00 AM

Place Bombay , India ...

I have just passed thru the Jupiter in Venus Maha dasa...

Mukund and Chandreshkhar ji , Do you want to analyze it ? I

will post my exp. of same period. later sometime...

Bye ,

Yogesh Shah

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wrote:

Dear

Mukund,

If my memory serves me right that is only applicable if Jupiter

occupies own house in 2nd. Why not check horoscopes of persons with

Jupiter in 2nd to find out what is right?

Chandrashekhar.

monmuk111 wrote:

Hello

Chandraji:

There is some confusion as to "Jupiter in 2nd, harms the 2nd." You

may be making an error saying this.

I clearly remember reading in one of Sanjay's books and also seen

discussed here that "Karak Bhava Naso" dictum doesn't apply to

Jupiter and Sun, i.e. Jupiter in 9th and Sun in 9th enhance the

qualities of the 9th house rather than destroy it.

Can you please enlighten us with further explanations. Thanks.

Mukund

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> Dear Sunil,

> It would. A stronger Jupiter there would, likely, cause more harm

than

> weaker one. Only exception would be when he is in own house.

> Chandrashekhar.

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> suniljohn_2002 wrote:

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> > Dear Shri Chandrashekharji, and others,

> >

> > A wonderful topic indeed. It would be nice if the following

queries

> > are replied although I am deviating from the topic at hand.

> >

> > 1. If Jup is in the 2nd house, would it harm the

significations of

> > the 2nd house e.g wealth.

> > 2. What would be the effects of a 2nd house Debilitated Jup

> > 3.What would be the effects of a 2nd house Exalted Jup.

> >

> > Kind regards,

> >

> > Sunil John

> > Mumbai

> >

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> > > Dear Mr Chandrashekhar,

> > >

> > > What is the validity of the statement -Jupiter harms the

house

he

> > > occupies, can you please explain this with examples ?

> > >

> > > Poolaat.

> > >

> > > -- In vedic astrology,

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> > wrote:

> > > > Dear David,

> > > > Jupiter harms the house he occupies. His Joining

Moon who

> > represents

> > > > Manas (mind), would obviously give mental tension

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Dear Anuaradha,

Look at your second house to find out whether it is afflicted by a

malefic to connect the event. Jupiter in 11th would harm indications of

the 11th house and not the 2nd. So relations with elder sibling or

his/her sukha might suffer.

Chandrashekhar.

Anuradha Bansal wrote:

Dear Mr.Chandrashekhar and Mr.Dhira,

I also have Jupiter in Leo and I lost the year in 1986

- 87 due to a Calcutta University strike and my family

shifting, inspite of being a very good student. It is

a big coincidence and hence I am pointing it out.

I am Libra ascendent (29.1.68 - 00.33am - Calcutta)

How does Jupiter in Leo harm education?

Thanks

Regards

Anuradha

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>

> >In your case it is in Leo. Jupiter looses strength

> in Leo. Any problems

> >in education?

>

> No, except for one year I didn't study and failed.

> That was in 1986-87, my

> first year of university. Interesting, I get

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September 16, 2004

Dear Shubhangi,

Being an Indian you must know that Jupiter looses his strength in Leo

and that is why there are no Muhurtas for marriages when Jupiter

occupies Leo or what is called as Simhastha. That is due to the fact of

Guru lacking Bala. In your brother's case Sun being in own Rasi makes

him Shubha and therefore good relations with Father. But I would say he

would not follow father's profession.

Chandrashekhar.

Shubhangi Naik wrote:

Dear Sir,

Sorry for intervening in your session, but I am curious to know the logic behind

jupiter losing its strength in leo and hence this email.

Yes, your dictum worked in my brother's case also.

My brother has sun+jup in leo but in 8th, no doubt he is very intelligent but

did not do much well in academics and yes, he did fail once in his 10th class.

With my half knowledge I thought the reason to be the positioning of both the

planets in 8th, but now curious to know why jup losses strength in leo. But

though both planets are positioned in 8th, both father and son shares good

relation with each other.

Thanks,

Shubhangi

On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 Chandrashekhar wrote :

Dear Dhira,

There you see the dictum working. Is it not?

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

Dhira Krsna BCS wrote:

Dear Chandrashekhar,

In your case it is in Leo. Jupiter looses strength in Leo. Any problems

in education?

No, except for one year I didn't study and failed. That was in 1986-87, my

first year of university. Interesting, I get Vimshottari Ven-Rahu-Jup and

Sat for that year.

Yours,

Dhira Krsna dasa,

Jyotishi

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September 16, 2004

Dear Pradeep,

This has more to do with Guru being Simhastha when it is bereft of Bala

and that is the reason Marriage muhurtas for that period are not

considered. That he becomes Avarohi would be more relevant in dasha

results no doubt. These are well established dictums and I do not

usually try to analyze them. A reason could be that from that position

Sun becomes, in a way, temporary enemy of Guru if we consider his

houses being 5th and 8th from Leo.

Chandrashekhar.

vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

Dear Chandrashekhar ji

You have written about jupiter losing strength in Leo.Is Jupiters

movement out of its exaltation place the reason behind your

statement.Also similar to a case which you have explained sometime

back,will aspect of sun on this jupiter strengthen it.

Respect

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> Dear Vishnu,

> The dictum rarely fails.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> Vishnu Jandhyala wrote:

>

> > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> > Dear Sri Chandrashekhar & Dhira,

> >

> > I have Jupiter in 2nd in moolatrikona. I would say I have

seen

the ugly

> > side of it.

> >

> > warm regards,

> > Vishnu

> >

> > --- Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Dhira,

> > > In your case it is in Leo. Jupiter looses strength in

Leo. Any

> > > problems

> > > in education?

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > Dhira Krsna BCS wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > >

> > > > It's in COVA that when Jupiter occupies 2nd house,

it will

not

> > > count for

> > > > karaka bhava nyasa. By the way, I have Jupiter in

2nd house.

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Dear Chandrashekhar ji

In my humble view, (Jupiter may not be preferred in Leo for Muhurta,

I do not know much about muhurta related configurations),It may not

become weak in terms of Bala necessarily (generally speaking). In

fact, jupiter in 3rd house in Libra is considered bad.

Jupiter in 11th house (any sign) will have directional strength to

initiate for results.

There must be more than this reason, for jupiter to give negative

results.

regards/Prafulla Gang

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wrote:

> Dear Shubhangi,

> Being an Indian you must know that Jupiter looses his strength in

Leo

> and that is why there are no Muhurtas for marriages when Jupiter

> occupies Leo or what is called as Simhastha. That is due to the

fact of

> Guru lacking Bala. In your brother's case Sun being in own Rasi

makes

> him Shubha and therefore good relations with Father. But I would

say he

> would not follow father's profession.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> Shubhangi Naik wrote:

>

> >Dear Sir,

> >

> >Sorry for intervening in your session, but I am curious to know

the logic behind jupiter losing its strength in leo and hence this

email.

> >Yes, your dictum worked in my brother's case also.

> >My brother has sun+jup in leo but in 8th, no doubt he is very

intelligent but did not do much well in academics and yes, he did

fail once in his 10th class.

> >With my half knowledge I thought the reason to be the positioning

of both the planets in 8th, but now curious to know why jup losses

strength in leo.

> >But though both planets are positioned in 8th, both father and

son shares good relation with each other.

> >Thanks,

> >Shubhangi

> >

> >On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 Chandrashekhar wrote :

> >

> >>Dear Dhira,

> >>There you see the dictum working. Is it not?

> >>Regards,

> >>Chandrashekhar.

> >>

> >>Dhira Krsna BCS wrote:

> >>

> >>>Dear Chandrashekhar,

> >>>

> >>>>In your case it is in Leo. Jupiter looses strength in Leo. Any

problems

> >>>>in education?

> >>>>

> >>>No, except for one year I didn't study and failed. That was in

1986-87, my

> >>>first year of university. Interesting, I get Vimshottari Ven-

Rahu-Jup and

> >>>Sat for that year.

> >>>

> >>>Yours,

> >>>Dhira Krsna dasa,

> >>>Jyotishi

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> >

September 17, 2004

Dear Chandrashekhar ji

I remember seeing discussions regarding simhashta when jupiter was

crossing over to Leo,the previous year.Also as you have said Pisces

is 8th from leo while Dhanu is 5th.But is it only for muhurtas w.r

to transit or natal positions in charts as well?

Respect

Pradeep

vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel>

wrote:

> Dear Pradeep,

> This has more to do with Guru being Simhastha when it is bereft of

Bala

> and that is the reason Marriage muhurtas for that period are not

> considered. That he becomes Avarohi would be more relevant in

dasha

> results no doubt. These are well established dictums and I do not

> usually try to analyze them. A reason could be that from that

position

> Sun becomes, in a way, temporary enemy of Guru if we consider his

> houses being 5th and 8th from Leo.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

> > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> >

> > You have written about jupiter losing strength in Leo.Is Jupiters

> > movement out of its exaltation place the reason behind your

> > statement.Also similar to a case which you have explained

sometime

> > back,will aspect of sun on this jupiter strengthen it.

> >

> > Respect

> > Pradeep

> > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Vishnu,

> > > The dictum rarely fails.

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > Vishnu Jandhyala wrote:

> > >

> > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> > > > Dear Sri Chandrashekhar & Dhira,

> > > >

> > > > I have Jupiter in 2nd in moolatrikona. I would say I have

seen

> > the ugly

> > > > side of it.

> > > >

> > > > warm regards,

> > > > Vishnu

> > > >

> > > > --- Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Dear Dhira,

> > > > > In your case it is in Leo. Jupiter looses strength in Leo.

Any

> > > > > problems

> > > > > in education?

> > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > >

> > > > > Dhira Krsna BCS wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It's in COVA that when Jupiter occupies 2nd house, it

will

> > not

> > > > > count for

> > > > > > karaka bhava nyasa. By the way, I have Jupiter in 2nd

house.

> > Any

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> > > > > > Yours,

> > > > > > Dhira Krsna dasa,

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Dear Prafulla,

Reference to Leo was in connection with what Shubhangi had asked.

Jupiter harming the house he is placed in is a dictum given by sages

and there is no reason to try to find out the reason. If one wants to

find the reason about Leo, consider this in natural zodiac Leo is in

5th house whose occupation by Jupiter leads to Karaka Bhava Dasha. In

11th all planets are Shubha so it is not only Jupiter who is Shubha

there. Disha strength is one amongst many strengths considered but not

as strong as Digbala and Jupiter gets that in Lagna.

Chandrashekhar.

Prafulla Gang wrote:

Dear Chandrashekhar ji

In my humble view, (Jupiter may not be preferred in Leo for Muhurta,

I do not know much about muhurta related configurations),It may not

become weak in terms of Bala necessarily (generally speaking). In

fact, jupiter in 3rd house in Libra is considered bad.

Jupiter in 11th house (any sign) will have directional strength to

initiate for results.

There must be more than this reason, for jupiter to give negative

results.

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wrote:

> Dear Shubhangi,

> Being an Indian you must know that Jupiter looses his strength in

Leo

> and that is why there are no Muhurtas for marriages when Jupiter

> occupies Leo or what is called as Simhastha. That is due to the

fact of

> Guru lacking Bala. In your brother's case Sun being in own Rasi

makes

> him Shubha and therefore good relations with Father. But I would

say he

> would not follow father's profession.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> Shubhangi Naik wrote:

>

> >Dear Sir,

> >

> >Sorry for intervening in your session, but I am curious to

know

the logic behind jupiter losing its strength in leo and hence this

email.

> >Yes, your dictum worked in my brother's case also.

> >My brother has sun+jup in leo but in 8th, no doubt he is very

intelligent but did not do much well in academics and yes, he did

fail once in his 10th class.

> >With my half knowledge I thought the reason to be the

positioning

of both the planets in 8th, but now curious to know why jup losses

strength in leo.

> >But though both planets are positioned in 8th, both father and

son shares good relation with each other.

> >Thanks,

> >Shubhangi

> >

> >On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 Chandrashekhar wrote :

> >

> >>Dear Dhira,

> >>There you see the dictum working. Is it not?

> >>Regards,

> >>Chandrashekhar.

> >>

> >>Dhira Krsna BCS wrote:

> >>

> >>>Dear Chandrashekhar,

> >>>

> >>>>In your case it is in Leo. Jupiter looses strength

in Leo. Any

problems

> >>>>in education?

> >>>>

> >>>No, except for one year I didn't study and failed.

That was in

1986-87, my

> >>>first year of university. Interesting, I get

Vimshottari Ven-

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September 17, 2004

Dear Pradeep,

Leo being 5th house in Natural Zodiac, Jupiter there does cause harm to

that house indicating the Putra Bhava. He gets somewhat weak in Leo

even in natal chart but modification would be there depending his house

lordship no doubt.

Chandrashekhar.

vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

Dear Chandrashekhar ji

I remember seeing discussions regarding simhashta when jupiter was

crossing over to Leo,the previous year.Also as you have said Pisces

is 8th from leo while Dhanu is 5th.But is it only for muhurtas w.r

to transit or natal positions in charts as well?

Respect

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> Dear Pradeep,

> This has more to do with Guru being Simhastha when it is bereft of

Bala

> and that is the reason Marriage muhurtas for that period are not

> considered. That he becomes Avarohi would be more relevant in

dasha

> results no doubt. These are well established dictums and I do not

> usually try to analyze them. A reason could be that from that

position

> Sun becomes, in a way, temporary enemy of Guru if we consider his

> houses being 5th and 8th from Leo.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

> > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> >

> > You have written about jupiter losing strength in Leo.Is

Jupiters

> > movement out of its exaltation place the reason behind your

> > statement.Also similar to a case which you have explained

sometime

> > back,will aspect of sun on this jupiter strengthen it.

> >

> > Respect

> > Pradeep

> > vedic astrology,

Chandrashekhar

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Vishnu,

> > > The dictum rarely fails.

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > Vishnu Jandhyala wrote:

> > >

> > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> > > > Dear Sri Chandrashekhar & Dhira,

> > > >

> > > > I have Jupiter in 2nd in moolatrikona. I would say

I have

seen

> > the ugly

> > > > side of it.

> > > >

> > > > warm regards,

> > > > Vishnu

> > > >

> > > > --- Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Dear Dhira,

> > > > > In your case it is in Leo. Jupiter looses

strength in Leo.

Any

> > > > > problems

> > > > > in education?

> > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > >

> > > > > Dhira Krsna BCS wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It's in COVA that when Jupiter occupies

2nd house, it

will

> > not

> > > > > count for

> > > > > > karaka bhava nyasa. By the way, I have

Jupiter in 2nd

house.

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Dear Chandrashekarji,

If Jupiter is in Leo, and Leo being Lagna does it mean it will

cause harm to 1st house matters?

As Jupiter gets dig bala in Lagna, it may be strong here.

Regards

Neel

vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel>

wrote:

> Dear Pradeep,

> Leo being 5th house in Natural Zodiac, Jupiter there does cause

harm to

> that house indicating the Putra Bhava. He gets somewhat weak in Leo

even

> in natal chart but modification would be there depending his house

> lordship no doubt.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

> > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> >

> > I remember seeing discussions regarding simhashta when jupiter was

> > crossing over to Leo,the previous year.Also as you have said

Pisces

> > is 8th from leo while Dhanu is 5th.But is it only for muhurtas w.r

> > to transit or natal positions in charts as well?

> >

> > Respect

> > Pradeep

> >

> > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Pradeep,

> > > This has more to do with Guru being Simhastha when it is bereft

of

> > Bala

> > > and that is the reason Marriage muhurtas for that period are not

> > > considered. That he becomes Avarohi would be more relevant in

> > dasha

> > > results no doubt. These are well established dictums and I do

not

> > > usually try to analyze them. A reason could be that from that

> > position

> > > Sun becomes, in a way, temporary enemy of Guru if we consider

his

> > > houses being 5th and 8th from Leo.

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> > > >

> > > > You have written about jupiter losing strength in Leo.Is

Jupiters

> > > > movement out of its exaltation place the reason behind your

> > > > statement.Also similar to a case which you have explained

> > sometime

> > > > back,will aspect of sun on this jupiter strengthen it.

> > > >

> > > > Respect

> > > > Pradeep

> > > > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> > <boxdel>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Dear Vishnu,

> > > > > The dictum rarely fails.

> > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > >

> > > > > Vishnu Jandhyala wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> > > > > > Dear Sri Chandrashekhar & Dhira,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have Jupiter in 2nd in moolatrikona. I would say I have

> > seen

> > > > the ugly

> > > > > > side of it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > warm regards,

> > > > > > Vishnu

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Dhira,

> > > > > > > In your case it is in Leo. Jupiter looses strength in

Leo.

> > Any

> > > > > > > problems

> > > > > > > in education?

> > > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dhira Krsna BCS wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It's in COVA that when Jupiter occupies 2nd house, it

> > will

> > > > not

> > > > > > > count for

> > > > > > > > karaka bhava nyasa. By the way, I have Jupiter in 2nd

> > house.

> > > > Any

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> > > > > > > >

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Dear Chandrashekhar,

You seem to be extending your arguments against Jupiter still further.

Firstly you said that Jup is ashub in houses it is a designated as a

Karka like 2,5,9,10 and 11 based on the principle of "Karka Bhavo Nasa"

.. Now you say that it will harm every house it is placed in. Why this

animosity with Jup, the hope of millions believing in Vedic Astrology

(in lighter vein).

You refer to some dictum of a sage, source was not given by you. But

take out any basic book on ancient astrology. It always speaks of the

benefic qualities of Jupiter. Somewhere it is even said, that howsoever

bad it may be placed in, it will still try to help the subject. And

this has been amply proved by our experience.

I am afraid. you will have to do some more hardwork for convincing all

about your notions of Jupiter, the heavenly Brahiman. This would even

mean a paradigm shift in Vedic Astrology.

Pran Razdan

--- Chandrashekhar <boxdel wrote:

> Dear Prafulla,

> Reference to Leo was in connection with what Shubhangi had asked.

> Jupiter harming the house he is placed in is a dictum given by sages

> and

> there is no reason to try to find out the reason. If one wants to

> find

> the reason about Leo, consider this in natural zodiac Leo is in 5th

> house whose occupation by Jupiter leads to Karaka Bhava Dasha. In

> 11th

> all planets are Shubha so it is not only Jupiter who is Shubha there.

>

> Disha strength is one amongst many strengths considered but not as

> strong as Digbala and Jupiter gets that in Lagna.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> Prafulla Gang wrote:

>

> > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> >

> > In my humble view, (Jupiter may not be preferred in Leo for

> Muhurta,

> > I do not know much about muhurta related configurations),It may not

> > become weak in terms of Bala necessarily (generally speaking). In

> > fact, jupiter in 3rd house in Libra is considered bad.

> >

> > Jupiter in 11th house (any sign) will have directional strength to

> > initiate for results.

> >

> > There must be more than this reason, for jupiter to give negative

> > results.

> >

> > regards/Prafulla Gang

> >

> > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> <boxdel>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Shubhangi,

> > > Being an Indian you must know that Jupiter looses his strength in

> > Leo

> > > and that is why there are no Muhurtas for marriages when Jupiter

> > > occupies Leo or what is called as Simhastha. That is due to the

> > fact of

> > > Guru lacking Bala. In your brother's case Sun being in own Rasi

> > makes

> > > him Shubha and therefore good relations with Father. But I would

> > say he

> > > would not follow father's profession.

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > Shubhangi Naik wrote:

> > >

> > > >Dear Sir,

> > > >

> > > >Sorry for intervening in your session, but I am curious to know

> > the logic behind jupiter losing its strength in leo and hence this

> > email.

> > > >Yes, your dictum worked in my brother's case also.

> > > >My brother has sun+jup in leo but in 8th, no doubt he is very

> > intelligent but did not do much well in academics and yes, he did

> > fail once in his 10th class.

> > > >With my half knowledge I thought the reason to be the

> positioning

> > of both the planets in 8th, but now curious to know why jup losses

> > strength in leo.

> > > >But though both planets are positioned in 8th, both father and

> > son shares good relation with each other.

> > > >Thanks,

> > > >Shubhangi

> > > >

> > > >On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 Chandrashekhar wrote :

> > > >

> > > >>Dear Dhira,

> > > >>There you see the dictum working. Is it not?

> > > >>Regards,

> > > >>Chandrashekhar.

> > > >>

> > > >>Dhira Krsna BCS wrote:

> > > >>

> > > >>>Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > >>>

> > > >>>>In your case it is in Leo. Jupiter looses strength in Leo.

> Any

> > problems

> > > >>>>in education?

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>No, except for one year I didn't study and failed. That was in

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Dear Neel,

There are different opinions about how to interpret Jupiter and Saturn.

My opinion is that stronger the Jupiter, greater the damage to the

house he tenants unless in own house.

Chandrashekhar.

Neel wrote:

Dear Chandrashekarji,

If Jupiter is in Leo, and Leo being Lagna does it mean it will

cause harm to 1st house matters?

As Jupiter gets dig bala in Lagna, it may be strong here.

Regards

Neel

vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

wrote:

> Dear Pradeep,

> Leo being 5th house in Natural Zodiac, Jupiter there does cause

harm to

> that house indicating the Putra Bhava. He gets somewhat weak in

Leo

even

> in natal chart but modification would be there depending his house

> lordship no doubt.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

> > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> >

> > I remember seeing discussions regarding simhashta when

jupiter was

> > crossing over to Leo,the previous year.Also as you have said

Pisces

> > is 8th from leo while Dhanu is 5th.But is it only for

muhurtas w.r

> > to transit or natal positions in charts as well?

> >

> > Respect

> > Pradeep

> >

> > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Pradeep,

> > > This has more to do with Guru being Simhastha when it is

bereft

of

> > Bala

> > > and that is the reason Marriage muhurtas for that period

are not

> > > considered. That he becomes Avarohi would be more

relevant in

> > dasha

> > > results no doubt. These are well established dictums and

I do

not

> > > usually try to analyze them. A reason could be that from

that

> > position

> > > Sun becomes, in a way, temporary enemy of Guru if we

consider

his

> > > houses being 5th and 8th from Leo.

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> > > >

> > > > You have written about jupiter losing strength in

Leo.Is

Jupiters

> > > > movement out of its exaltation place the reason

behind your

> > > > statement.Also similar to a case which you have

explained

> > sometime

> > > > back,will aspect of sun on this jupiter strengthen

it.

> > > >

> > > > Respect

> > > > Pradeep

> > > > vedic astrology,

Chandrashekhar

> > <boxdel>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Dear Vishnu,

> > > > > The dictum rarely fails.

> > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > >

> > > > > Vishnu Jandhyala wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> > > > > > Dear Sri Chandrashekhar & Dhira,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have Jupiter in 2nd in moolatrikona. I

would say I have

> > seen

> > > > the ugly

> > > > > > side of it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > warm regards,

> > > > > > Vishnu

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- Chandrashekhar <boxdel>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Dhira,

> > > > > > > In your case it is in Leo. Jupiter

looses strength in

Leo.

> > Any

> > > > > > > problems

> > > > > > > in education?

> > > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dhira Krsna BCS wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It's in COVA that when Jupiter

occupies 2nd house, it

> > will

> > > > not

> > > > > > > count for

> > > > > > > > karaka bhava nyasa. By the way,

I have Jupiter in 2nd

> > house.

> > > > Any

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Dear Razdan,

had you read through previous posting on the subject, i am certain you

would have come across the shloka that I had given. Go to the list and

read it. I do not know why you are confusing between two different sets

of principles. Karaka Bhava nasha is not limited to Jupiter, it is a

general principle with the exception being applied to Saturn.

I am certain you must have gone through many astrological books and

must be aware that Jupiter creates problems in having progeny in more

than 4 Rasis. Now would you explain why should it be stated by sages in

the texts, if your contention of all astrological texts giving only

beneficial results for placement of Jupiter be right. Think over it. If

the meaning is not clear refer to Parashara and see what the sage has

to say about Guru owning Kendra, whether he is extreme malefic or

benefic. I hope you will not attribute any prejudice to Parashara.

I have no animosity with anybody, much less towards Guru who is my

Lagnesh, unfortunately my generation is not in the habit of attributing

only virtues to those whom we respect and glossing over their problems

as is fashionable now a days.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

PNRazdan wrote:

Dear Chandrashekhar,

You seem to be extending your arguments against Jupiter still further.

Firstly you said that Jup is ashub in houses it is a designated as a

Karka like 2,5,9,10 and 11 based on the principle of "Karka Bhavo Nasa"

.. Now you say that it will harm every house it is placed in. Why this

animosity with Jup, the hope of millions believing in Vedic Astrology

(in lighter vein).

You refer to some dictum of a sage, source was not given by you. But

take out any basic book on ancient astrology. It always speaks of the

benefic qualities of Jupiter. Somewhere it is even said, that howsoever

bad it may be placed in, it will still try to help the subject. And

this has been amply proved by our experience. I am afraid. you will have to do

some more hardwork for convincing all

about your notions of Jupiter, the heavenly Brahiman. This would even

mean a paradigm shift in Vedic Astrology.

Pran Razdan

--- Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear Prafulla,

Reference to Leo was in connection with what Shubhangi had asked. Jupiter

harming the house he is placed in is a dictum given by sages

and there is no reason to try to find out the reason. If one wants to

find the reason about Leo, consider this in natural zodiac Leo is in 5th house

whose occupation by Jupiter leads to Karaka Bhava Dasha. In

11th all planets are Shubha so it is not only Jupiter who is Shubha there.

Disha strength is one amongst many strengths considered but not as strong as

Digbala and Jupiter gets that in Lagna.

Chandrashekhar.

Prafulla Gang wrote:

Dear Chandrashekhar ji

In my humble view, (Jupiter may not be preferred in Leo for

Muhurta,

I do not know much about muhurta related configurations),It may not

become weak in terms of Bala necessarily (generally speaking). In

fact, jupiter in 3rd house in Libra is considered bad.

Jupiter in 11th house (any sign) will have directional strength to

initiate for results.

There must be more than this reason, for jupiter to give negative

results.

regards/Prafulla Gang

vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

wrote:

Dear Shubhangi,

Being an Indian you must know that Jupiter looses his strength in

Leo

and that is why there are no Muhurtas for marriages when Jupiter

occupies Leo or what is called as Simhastha. That is due to the

fact of

Guru lacking Bala. In your brother's case Sun being in own Rasi

makes

him Shubha and therefore good relations with Father. But I would

say he

would not follow father's profession.

Chandrashekhar.

Shubhangi Naik wrote:

Dear Sir,

Sorry for intervening in your session, but I am curious to know

the logic behind jupiter losing its strength in leo and hence this

email.

Yes, your dictum worked in my brother's case also.

My brother has sun+jup in leo but in 8th, no doubt he is very

intelligent but did not do much well in academics and yes, he did

fail once in his 10th class.

With my half knowledge I thought the reason to be the

positioning

of both the planets in 8th, but now curious to know why jup losses

strength in leo.

But though both planets are positioned in 8th, both father and

son shares good relation with each other.

Thanks,

Shubhangi

On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 Chandrashekhar wrote :

Dear Dhira,

There you see the dictum working. Is it not?

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

Dhira Krsna BCS wrote:

Dear Chandrashekhar,

In your case it is in Leo. Jupiter looses strength in Leo.

Any

problems

in education?

No, except for one year I didn't study and failed. That was in

1986-87, my

first year of university. Interesting, I get Vimshottari Ven-

Rahu-Jup and

Sat for that year.

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Dear Chandrashekhar,

I have been reading your posts on this subject all along but failed to

get your source of conviction.

We all agree that Jup too has its unfavourable positions and traits.

We know it is a stronger Maraka, we also know that it is a functional

malefic in Taurus, Libra, Capri etc laganas. We also know that it gets

KP dosh in quadrant lordship, although KPdosh means only holding

beneficial/malefic qualities, nothing more, but we extend the argument

further by making them good or bad. These are well established advices

of our sages.

What is being objected is your sweeping remark that Jup in any house

will ruin that house. This is not borne out by any authoritative book

or saloka. At least you have not given the source so far.

This is also not borne out by experience. Lakshmi has in a separate

post given some examples of charts that have Jup in some houses and

have done well. This can be multiplied so many times. I have done a

little bit of research and seen the charts of 30 eminent people.who

have Jupiter in the mentioned house. One can easily relate the

contribution of this planet in the house with the fame of the subject:-

1. Atal Bihari Vajpayee- in 2nd house

2. Bill Clinton- in 2nd

3. Bill Gates- 3rd

4. Britney Spears- 4th

5. Elizabeth Taylor- 11th

6. Hillary Clinton-11th

7. Indira Gandhi-11th

8. Adolf Hitler-3rd

9. Albert Einstein- 9th

10. Joseph Stalin- 3rd

11. Lady Diana- 3rd

12. Lal Bahadur Shastri- 5th

13. LKAdvani-5th

14. John Kennedy-9th

15. Lata Mangeshkar-1st

16. Lord Mountbatten-5th

17. Monica Lewinsky-5th

18. Mother Teresa-2nd

19. Napolean Bonaparte- 1st

20. Pablo Picasso-10th

21. Pope John I- 5th

22. Queen Elizabeth- 5th

23. Rabindra Nath Tagore- 5th

24. Rajiv Gandhi- 1st

25. Raman Maharishi- 5th

26. Sachin Tendulkar- 4th

27. Sanjay Rath-1st

28. Satya Sai Baba-2nd

29. Sonia Gandhi-4th

30. Sardar Patel- 7th

While their fame came also due to other planetary combinations but the

role of Jupiter is obviously prominent in their birth charts.

I agree at our age, we should not be fashionable to only heap praise

but at the same time we should not be radicals too.

Pran Razdan

--- Chandrashekhar <boxdel wrote:

> Dear Razdan,

> had you read through previous posting on the subject, i am certain

> you

> would have come across the shloka that I had given. Go to the list

> and

> read it. I do not know why you are confusing between two different

> sets

> of principles. Karaka Bhava nasha is not limited to Jupiter, it is a

> general principle with the exception being applied to Saturn.

> I am certain you must have gone through many astrological books and

> must

> be aware that Jupiter creates problems in having progeny in more than

> 4

> Rasis. Now would you explain why should it be stated by sages in the

> texts, if your contention of all astrological texts giving only

> beneficial results for placement of Jupiter be right. Think over it.

> If

> the meaning is not clear refer to Parashara and see what the sage has

> to

> say about Guru owning Kendra, whether he is extreme malefic or

> benefic.

> I hope you will not attribute any prejudice to Parashara.

> I have no animosity with anybody, much less towards Guru who is my

> Lagnesh, unfortunately my generation is not in the habit of

> attributing

> only virtues to those whom we respect and glossing over their

> problems

> as is fashionable now a days.

> Regards,

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> PNRazdan wrote:

>

> >Dear Chandrashekhar,

> >You seem to be extending your arguments against Jupiter still

> further.

> >Firstly you said that Jup is ashub in houses it is a designated as a

> >Karka like 2,5,9,10 and 11 based on the principle of "Karka Bhavo

> Nasa"

> >. Now you say that it will harm every house it is placed in. Why

> this

> >animosity with Jup, the hope of millions believing in Vedic

> Astrology

> >(in lighter vein).

> >

> >You refer to some dictum of a sage, source was not given by you. But

> >take out any basic book on ancient astrology. It always speaks of

> the

> >benefic qualities of Jupiter. Somewhere it is even said, that

> howsoever

> >bad it may be placed in, it will still try to help the subject. And

> >this has been amply proved by our experience.

> >I am afraid. you will have to do some more hardwork for convincing

> all

> >about your notions of Jupiter, the heavenly Brahiman. This would

> even

> >mean a paradigm shift in Vedic Astrology.

> >Pran Razdan

> >

> >--- Chandrashekhar <boxdel wrote:

> >

> >>Dear Prafulla,

> >>Reference to Leo was in connection with what Shubhangi had asked.

> >>Jupiter harming the house he is placed in is a dictum given by

> sages

> >>and

> >>there is no reason to try to find out the reason. If one wants to

> >>find

> >>the reason about Leo, consider this in natural zodiac Leo is in 5th

>

> >>house whose occupation by Jupiter leads to Karaka Bhava Dasha. In

> >>11th

> >>all planets are Shubha so it is not only Jupiter who is Shubha

> there.

> >>

> >>Disha strength is one amongst many strengths considered but not as

> >>strong as Digbala and Jupiter gets that in Lagna.

> >>Chandrashekhar.

> >>

> >>Prafulla Gang wrote:

> >>

> >>>Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> >>>

> >>>In my humble view, (Jupiter may not be preferred in Leo for

> >>>

> >>Muhurta,

> >>

> >>>I do not know much about muhurta related configurations),It may

> not

> >>>become weak in terms of Bala necessarily (generally speaking). In

> >>>fact, jupiter in 3rd house in Libra is considered bad.

> >>>

> >>>Jupiter in 11th house (any sign) will have directional strength to

> >>>initiate for results.

> >>>

> >>>There must be more than this reason, for jupiter to give negative

> >>>results.

> >>>

> >>>regards/Prafulla Gang

> >>>

> >>>vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> >>>

> >><boxdel>

> >>

> >>>wrote:

> >>>

> >>>>Dear Shubhangi,

> >>>>Being an Indian you must know that Jupiter looses his strength in

> >>>>

> >>>Leo

> >>>

> >>>>and that is why there are no Muhurtas for marriages when Jupiter

> >>>>occupies Leo or what is called as Simhastha. That is due to the

> >>>>

> >>>fact of

> >>>

> >>>>Guru lacking Bala. In your brother's case Sun being in own Rasi

> >>>>

> >>>makes

> >>>

> >>>>him Shubha and therefore good relations with Father. But I would

> >>>>

> >>>say he

> >>>

> >>>>would not follow father's profession.

> >>>>Chandrashekhar.

> >>>>

> >>>>Shubhangi Naik wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>>>Dear Sir,

> >>>>>

> >>>>>Sorry for intervening in your session, but I am curious to know

> >>>>>

> >>>the logic behind jupiter losing its strength in leo and hence this

> >>>email.

> >>>

> >>>>>Yes, your dictum worked in my brother's case also.

> >>>>>My brother has sun+jup in leo but in 8th, no doubt he is very

> >>>>>

> >>>intelligent but did not do much well in academics and yes, he did

> >>>fail once in his 10th class.

> >>>

> >>>>>With my half knowledge I thought the reason to be the

> >>>>>

> >>positioning

> >>

> >>>of both the planets in 8th, but now curious to know why jup losses

> >>>strength in leo.

> >>>

> >>>>>But though both planets are positioned in 8th, both father and

> >>>>>

> >>>son shares good relation with each other.

> >>>

> >>>>>Thanks,

> >>>>>Shubhangi

> >>>>>

> >>>>>On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 Chandrashekhar wrote :

> >>>>>

> >>>>>>Dear Dhira,

> >>>>>>There you see the dictum working. Is it not?

> >>>>>>Regards,

> >>>>>>Chandrashekhar.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>Dhira Krsna BCS wrote:

>

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September 19, 2004

Namaste Razdan ji,

Thanks for your mail, which exactly reflects my sentiments. Like you have very

correctly pointed out, all planets have their positive and negative traits and

their good and bad placements. All have a purpose to serve in our lives and

charts. The horoscope has to be looked at and judged on the whole, without

coming to conclusions based on particular placements of a single planet. Each

chart is unique in itself, like each individual, and each reading is a

revelation...

I am sure Chandrasekharji has his own reasons and research supporting this

dictum about 2nd house placement of Jupiter, but it is certainly not supported

either by Sage Parasara or by Shri BV Raman, who, I am sure had put in more

research than all of us put together. Infact they were exactly contrary!

Regards,

Lakshmi

PNRazdan <pnrazdan > wrote:

Dear Chandrashekhar, I have been reading your posts on this subject all along

but failed toget your source of conviction.We all agree that Jup too has its

unfavourable positions and traits.We know it is a stronger Maraka, we also know

that it is a functionalmalefic in Taurus, Libra, Capri etc laganas. We also know

that it getsKP dosh in quadrant lordship, although KPdosh means only holding

beneficial/malefic qualities, nothing more, but we extend the argumentfurther

by making them good or bad. These are well established advicesof our sages.What

is being objected is your sweeping remark that Jup in any housewill ruin that

house. This is not borne out by any authoritative bookor saloka. At least you

have not given the source so far.This is also not borne out by experience.

Lakshmi has in a separatepost given

some examples of charts that have Jup in some houses andhave done well. This can

be multiplied so many times. I have done alittle bit of research and seen the

charts of 30 eminent people.whohave Jupiter in the mentioned house. One can

easily relate thecontribution of this planet in the house with the fame of the

subject:-1. Atal Bihari Vajpayee- in 2nd house2. Bill Clinton- in

2nd3. Bill Gates- 3rd4. Britney Spears- 4th5. Elizabeth Taylor-

11th6. Hillary Clinton-11th7. Indira Gandhi-11th8. Adolf

Hitler-3rd9. Albert Einstein- 9th10. Joseph Stalin- 3rd11. Lady

Diana-

3rd12. Lal Bahadur Shastri- 5th13. LKAdvani-5th 14. John

Kennedy-9th15. Lata Mangeshkar-1st16. Lord Mountbatten-5th17.

Monica Lewinsky-5th 18. Mother Teresa-2nd19. Napolean Bonaparte-

1st20. Pablo Picasso-10th 21. Pope John I- 5th22. Queen

Elizabeth- 5th23. Rabindra Nath Tagore- 5th24. Rajiv Gandhi- 1st25.

Raman Maharishi- 5th26. Sachin Tendulkar- 4th27. Sanjay Rath-1st28.

Satya Sai

Baba-2nd29. Sonia Gandhi-4th30. Sardar Patel- 7thWhile their fame came

also due to other planetary combinations but therole of Jupiter is obviously

prominent in their birth charts.I agree at our age, we should not be

fashionable to only heap praisebut at the same time we should not be radicals

too.Pran Razdan--- Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:> Dear Razdan,>

had you read through previous posting on the subject, i am certain> you > would

have come across the shloka that I had given. Go to the list> and > read it. I

do not know why you are confusing between two different> sets > of principles.

Karaka Bhava nasha is not limited to Jupiter, it is a > general principle with

the exception being applied to Saturn.> I am certain you must have gone through

many astrological books and>

must > be aware that Jupiter creates problems in having progeny in more than> 4

> Rasis. Now would you explain why should it be stated by sages in the > texts,

if your contention of all astrological texts giving only > beneficial results

for placement of Jupiter be right. Think over it.> If > the meaning is not

clear refer to Parashara and see what the sage has> to > say about Guru owning

Kendra, whether he is extreme malefic or> benefic. > I hope you will not

attribute any prejudice to Parashara.> I have no animosity with anybody, much

less towards Guru who is my > Lagnesh, unfortunately my generation is not in

the habit of> attributing > only virtues to those whom we respect and glossing

over their> problems > as is fashionable now a days.> Regards,>

Chandrashekhar.> > PNRazdan wrote:> > >Dear Chandrashekhar,>

>You seem to be extending your arguments against Jupiter still> further.>

>Firstly you said that Jup is ashub in houses it is a designated as a> >Karka

like 2,5,9,10 and 11 based on the principle of "Karka Bhavo> Nasa"> >. Now you

say that it will harm every house it is placed in. Why> this> >animosity with

Jup, the hope of millions believing in Vedic> Astrology> >(in lighter vein).>

>> >You refer to some dictum of a sage, source was not given by you. But> >take

out any basic book on ancient astrology. It always speaks of> the> >benefic

qualities of Jupiter. Somewhere it is even said, that> howsoever> >bad it may

be placed in, it will still try to help the subject. And> >this has been amply

proved by our experience. > >I am afraid. you will have to do some more

hardwork for convincing> all> >about your

notions of Jupiter, the heavenly Brahiman. This would> even> >mean a paradigm

shift in Vedic Astrology.> >Pran Razdan> >> >--- Chandrashekhar

<boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:> >> > > >> >>Dear Prafulla,> >>Reference to Leo

was in connection with what Shubhangi had asked. > >>Jupiter harming the house

he is placed in is a dictum given by> sages> >>and > >>there is no reason to

try to find out the reason. If one wants to> >>find > >>the reason about Leo,

consider this in natural zodiac Leo is in 5th> > >>house whose occupation by

Jupiter leads to Karaka Bhava Dasha. In> >>11th > >>all planets are Shubha so

it is not only Jupiter who is Shubha> there.> >>> >>Disha strength is one

amongst many strengths considered but not as

> >>strong as Digbala and Jupiter gets that in Lagna.> >>Chandrashekhar.> >>>

>>Prafulla Gang wrote:> >>> >> > >>> >>>Dear Chandrashekhar ji> >>>> >>>In

my humble view, (Jupiter may not be preferred in Leo for> >>> > >>>>

>>Muhurta,> >> > >>> >>>I do not know much about muhurta related

configurations),It may> not> >>>become weak in terms of Bala necessarily

(generally speaking). In> >>>fact, jupiter in 3rd house in Libra is considered

bad.> >>>> >>>Jupiter in 11th house (any sign) will have directional strength

to> >>>initiate for results.> >>>> >>>There must be more than this

reason, for jupiter to give negative> >>>results.> >>>> >>>regards/Prafulla

Gang> >>>> >>>> >>>vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar> >>>

> >>>> >><boxdel>> >> > >>> >>>wrote:> >>> > >>>> >>>>Dear

Shubhangi,> >>>>Being an Indian you must know that Jupiter looses his strength

in> >>>> > >>>>> >>>Leo> >>> > >>>> >>>>and that is why there are

no Muhurtas for marriages when Jupiter> >>>>occupies Leo or what is called as

Simhastha. That is due

to the> >>>> > >>>>> >>>fact of> >>> > >>>> >>>>Guru lacking Bala.

In your brother's case Sun being in own Rasi> >>>> > >>>>> >>>makes> >>>

> >>>> >>>>him Shubha and therefore good relations with Father. But I

would> >>>> > >>>>> >>>say he> >>> > >>>> >>>>would not follow

father's profession.> >>>>Chandrashekhar.> >>>>> >>>>Shubhangi Naik wrote:>

>>>>>

>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>Dear Sir,> >>>>>> >>>>>Sorry for intervening in your

session, but I am curious to know> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>the logic behind

jupiter losing its strength in leo and hence this> >>>email.> >>> > >>>>

>>>>>Yes, your dictum worked in my brother's case also.> >>>>>My brother has

sun+jup in leo but in 8th, no doubt he is very> >>>>> > >>>>>>

>>>intelligent but did not do much well in academics and yes, he did> >>>fail

once in his 10th class.>

>>> > >>>> >>>>>With my half knowledge I thought the reason to be the>

>>>>> > >>>>>> >>positioning> >> > >>> >>>of both the planets in

8th, but now curious to know why jup losses> >>>strength in leo.> >>> >

>>>> >>>>>But though both planets are positioned in 8th, both father and> >>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>son shares good relation with each other.> >>> > >>>>

>>>>>Thanks,> >>>>>Shubhangi> >>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 Chandrashekhar wrote

:> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>Dear Dhira,> >>>>>>There you see

the dictum working. Is it not?> >>>>>>Regards,> >>>>>>Chandrashekhar.> >>>>>>>

>>>>>>Dhira Krsna BCS wrote:> === message truncated ===

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Dear Razdan,

I have already given the relevant shloka and others have given other

shlokas too. I have already advised you to go through the archives but

it appears you have not done so. Have you found shloka about Jupiter's

position in certain Rasis giving problems in progeny at least?

You have mentioned many personalities, how much do you know about their

personal lives to say that Jupiter has not harmed the house that

occupies? Does A.B. Vajpayee has his own family? Check up. Also check

up what lata Mangeshkar did to her sister to understand what Guru in

Lagna can do.

I have not made any sweeping statement. If you read the list, many have

agreed to what I have said from their own experience. I have also said

that one has to apply the dictum in proper perspective to get correct

results. For this one has to know all the dictums, like all planets

give good results in own house and all planets are capable of giving

good results in 11th house. I think I have written umpteen times that

no principle can be applied on standalone basis but has to be applied

after taking into consideration all variables.

The case mentioned by dear Lakshmi have Jupiter in own house or Saturn

who protects the house is also conjunct Jupiter, if I remember right.

The dictum being Sthana Bhrashta karoti JeevaH , sthana rakshati

mandaH, the results that are stated to be obtained are in keeping with

the dictum.

Chandrashekhar.

PNRazdan wrote:

Dear Chandrashekhar, I have been reading your posts on this subject all along but failed to

get your source of conviction.

We all agree that Jup too has its unfavourable positions and traits.

We know it is a stronger Maraka, we also know that it is a functional

malefic in Taurus, Libra, Capri etc laganas. We also know that it gets

KP dosh in quadrant lordship, although KPdosh means only holding

beneficial/malefic qualities, nothing more, but we extend the argument

further by making them good or bad. These are well established advices

of our sages.

What is being objected is your sweeping remark that Jup in any house

will ruin that house. This is not borne out by any authoritative book

or saloka. At least you have not given the source so far.

This is also not borne out by experience. Lakshmi has in a separate

post given some examples of charts that have Jup in some houses and

have done well. This can be multiplied so many times. I have done a

little bit of research and seen the charts of 30 eminent people.who

have Jupiter in the mentioned house. One can easily relate the

contribution of this planet in the house with the fame of the subject:-

1. Atal Bihari Vajpayee- in 2nd house

2. Bill Clinton- in 2nd

3. Bill Gates- 3rd

4. Britney Spears- 4th

5. Elizabeth Taylor- 11th

6. Hillary Clinton-11th

7. Indira Gandhi-11th

8. Adolf Hitler-3rd

9. Albert Einstein- 9th

10. Joseph Stalin- 3rd

11. Lady Diana- 3rd

12. Lal Bahadur Shastri- 5th

13. LKAdvani-5th 14. John Kennedy-9th

15. Lata Mangeshkar-1st

16. Lord Mountbatten-5th

17. Monica Lewinsky-5th 18. Mother Teresa-2nd

19. Napolean Bonaparte- 1st

20. Pablo Picasso-10th 21. Pope John I- 5th

22. Queen Elizabeth- 5th

23. Rabindra Nath Tagore- 5th

24. Rajiv Gandhi- 1st

25. Raman Maharishi- 5th

26. Sachin Tendulkar- 4th

27. Sanjay Rath-1st

28. Satya Sai Baba-2nd

29. Sonia Gandhi-4th

30. Sardar Patel- 7th

While their fame came also due to other planetary combinations but the

role of Jupiter is obviously prominent in their birth charts.

I agree at our age, we should not be fashionable to only heap praise

but at the same time we should not be radicals too.

Pran Razdan

--- Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear Razdan,

had you read through previous posting on the subject, i am certain

you would have come across the shloka that I had given. Go to the list

and read it. I do not know why you are confusing between two different

sets of principles. Karaka Bhava nasha is not limited to Jupiter, it is a

general principle with the exception being applied to Saturn.

I am certain you must have gone through many astrological books and

must be aware that Jupiter creates problems in having progeny in more than

4 Rasis. Now would you explain why should it be stated by sages in the texts, if

your contention of all astrological texts giving only beneficial results for

placement of Jupiter be right. Think over it.

If the meaning is not clear refer to Parashara and see what the sage has

to say about Guru owning Kendra, whether he is extreme malefic or

benefic. I hope you will not attribute any prejudice to Parashara.

I have no animosity with anybody, much less towards Guru who is my Lagnesh,

unfortunately my generation is not in the habit of

attributing only virtues to those whom we respect and glossing over their

problems as is fashionable now a days.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

PNRazdan wrote:

Dear Chandrashekhar,

You seem to be extending your arguments against Jupiter still

further.

Firstly you said that Jup is ashub in houses it is a designated as a

Karka like 2,5,9,10 and 11 based on the principle of "Karka Bhavo

Nasa"

.. Now you say that it will harm every house it is placed in. Why

this

animosity with Jup, the hope of millions believing in Vedic

Astrology

(in lighter vein).

You refer to some dictum of a sage, source was not given by you. But

take out any basic book on ancient astrology. It always speaks of

the

benefic qualities of Jupiter. Somewhere it is even said, that

howsoever

bad it may be placed in, it will still try to help the subject. And

this has been amply proved by our experience. I am afraid. you will have to do

some more hardwork for convincing

all

about your notions of Jupiter, the heavenly Brahiman. This would

even

mean a paradigm shift in Vedic Astrology.

Pran Razdan

--- Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear Prafulla,

Reference to Leo was in connection with what Shubhangi had asked. Jupiter

harming the house he is placed in is a dictum given by

sages

and there is no reason to try to find out the reason. If one wants to

find the reason about Leo, consider this in natural zodiac Leo is in 5th

house whose occupation by Jupiter leads to Karaka Bhava Dasha. In

11th all planets are Shubha so it is not only Jupiter who is Shubha

there.

Disha strength is one amongst many strengths considered but not as strong as

Digbala and Jupiter gets that in Lagna.

Chandrashekhar.

Prafulla Gang wrote:

Dear Chandrashekhar ji

In my humble view, (Jupiter may not be preferred in Leo for

Muhurta,

I do not know much about muhurta related configurations),It may

not

become weak in terms of Bala necessarily (generally speaking). In

fact, jupiter in 3rd house in Libra is considered bad.

Jupiter in 11th house (any sign) will have directional strength to

initiate for results.

There must be more than this reason, for jupiter to give negative

results.

regards/Prafulla Gang

vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

wrote:

Dear Shubhangi,

Being an Indian you must know that Jupiter looses his strength in

Leo

and that is why there are no Muhurtas for marriages when Jupiter

occupies Leo or what is called as Simhastha. That is due to the

fact of

Guru lacking Bala. In your brother's case Sun being in own Rasi

makes

him Shubha and therefore good relations with Father. But I would

say he

would not follow father's profession.

Chandrashekhar.

Shubhangi Naik wrote:

Dear Sir,

Sorry for intervening in your session, but I am curious to know

the logic behind jupiter losing its strength in leo and hence this

email.

Yes, your dictum worked in my brother's case also.

My brother has sun+jup in leo but in 8th, no doubt he is very

intelligent but did not do much well in academics and yes, he did

fail once in his 10th class.

With my half knowledge I thought the reason to be the

positioning

of both the planets in 8th, but now curious to know why jup losses

strength in leo.

But though both planets are positioned in 8th, both father and

son shares good relation with each other.

Thanks,

Shubhangi

On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 Chandrashekhar wrote :

Dear Dhira,

There you see the dictum working. Is it not?

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

Dhira Krsna BCS wrote:

=== message truncated ===

September 19, 2004

Dear Razdan,

In continuation of last mail, if you are interested about the source of

the shlokas, read the numerous commentaries on Astrological texts by

Pt. Gopeshkumar Oza and Pt. Kedardatt Joshi.

Chandrashekhar.

PNRazdan wrote:

Dear Chandrashekhar,

I have been reading your posts on this subject all along but failed to

get your source of conviction.

We all agree that Jup too has its unfavourable positions and traits.

We know it is a stronger Maraka, we also know that it is a functional

malefic in Taurus, Libra, Capri etc laganas. We also know that it gets

KP dosh in quadrant lordship, although KPdosh means only holding

beneficial/malefic qualities, nothing more, but we extend the argument

further by making them good or bad. These are well established advices

of our sages.

What is being objected is your sweeping remark that Jup in any house

will ruin that house. This is not borne out by any authoritative book

or saloka. At least you have not given the source so far.

This is also not borne out by experience. Lakshmi has in a separate

post given some examples of charts that have Jup in some houses and

have done well. This can be multiplied so many times. I have done a

little bit of research and seen the charts of 30 eminent people.who

have Jupiter in the mentioned house. One can easily relate the

contribution of this planet in the house with the fame of the subject:-

1. Atal Bihari Vajpayee- in 2nd house

2. Bill Clinton- in 2nd

3. Bill Gates- 3rd

4. Britney Spears- 4th

5. Elizabeth Taylor- 11th

6. Hillary Clinton-11th

7. Indira Gandhi-11th

8. Adolf Hitler-3rd

9. Albert Einstein- 9th

10. Joseph Stalin- 3rd

11. Lady Diana- 3rd

12. Lal Bahadur Shastri- 5th

13. LKAdvani-5th

14. John Kennedy-9th

15. Lata Mangeshkar-1st

16. Lord Mountbatten-5th

17. Monica Lewinsky-5th

18. Mother Teresa-2nd

19. Napolean Bonaparte- 1st

20. Pablo Picasso-10th

21. Pope John I- 5th

22. Queen Elizabeth- 5th

23. Rabindra Nath Tagore- 5th

24. Rajiv Gandhi- 1st

25. Raman Maharishi- 5th

26. Sachin Tendulkar- 4th

27. Sanjay Rath-1st

28. Satya Sai Baba-2nd

29. Sonia Gandhi-4th

30. Sardar Patel- 7th

While their fame came also due to other planetary combinations but the

role of Jupiter is obviously prominent in their birth charts.

I agree at our age, we should not be fashionable to only heap praise

but at the same time we should not be radicals too.

Pran Razdan

--- Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

> Dear Razdan,

> had you read through previous posting on the subject, i am certain

> you

> would have come across the shloka that I had given. Go to the list

> and

> read it. I do not know why you are confusing between two different

> sets

> of principles. Karaka Bhava nasha is not limited to Jupiter, it is

a

> general principle with the exception being applied to Saturn.

> I am certain you must have gone through many astrological books and

> must

> be aware that Jupiter creates problems in having progeny in more

than

> 4

> Rasis. Now would you explain why should it be stated by sages in

the

> texts, if your contention of all astrological texts giving only

> beneficial results for placement of Jupiter be right. Think over

it.

> If

> the meaning is not clear refer to Parashara and see what the sage

has

> to

> say about Guru owning Kendra, whether he is extreme malefic or

> benefic.

> I hope you will not attribute any prejudice to Parashara.

> I have no animosity with anybody, much less towards Guru who is my

> Lagnesh, unfortunately my generation is not in the habit of

> attributing

> only virtues to those whom we respect and glossing over their

> problems

> as is fashionable now a days.

> Regards,

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> PNRazdan wrote:

>

> >Dear Chandrashekhar,

> >You seem to be extending your arguments against Jupiter still

> further.

> >Firstly you said that Jup is ashub in houses it is a

designated as a

> >Karka like 2,5,9,10 and 11 based on the principle of "Karka

Bhavo

> Nasa"

> >. Now you say that it will harm every house it is placed in.

Why

> this

> >animosity with Jup, the hope of millions believing in Vedic

> Astrology

> >(in lighter vein).

> >

> >You refer to some dictum of a sage, source was not given by

you. But

> >take out any basic book on ancient astrology. It always speaks

of

> the

> >benefic qualities of Jupiter. Somewhere it is even said, that

> howsoever

> >bad it may be placed in, it will still try to help the

subject. And

> >this has been amply proved by our experience.

> >I am afraid. you will have to do some more hardwork for

convincing

> all

> >about your notions of Jupiter, the heavenly Brahiman. This

would

> even

> >mean a paradigm shift in Vedic Astrology.

> >Pran Razdan

> >

> >--- Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

> >

> >>Dear Prafulla,

> >>Reference to Leo was in connection with what Shubhangi had

asked.

> >>Jupiter harming the house he is placed in is a dictum

given by

> sages

> >>and

> >>there is no reason to try to find out the reason. If one

wants to

> >>find

> >>the reason about Leo, consider this in natural zodiac Leo

is in 5th

>

> >>house whose occupation by Jupiter leads to Karaka Bhava

Dasha. In

> >>11th

> >>all planets are Shubha so it is not only Jupiter who is

Shubha

> there.

> >>

> >>Disha strength is one amongst many strengths considered

but not as

> >>strong as Digbala and Jupiter gets that in Lagna.

> >>Chandrashekhar.

> >>

> >>Prafulla Gang wrote:

> >>

> >>>Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> >>>

> >>>In my humble view, (Jupiter may not be preferred in

Leo for

> >>>

> >>Muhurta,

> >>

> >>>I do not know much about muhurta related

configurations),It may

> not

> >>>become weak in terms of Bala necessarily (generally

speaking). In

> >>>fact, jupiter in 3rd house in Libra is considered bad.

> >>>

> >>>Jupiter in 11th house (any sign) will have directional

strength to

> >>>initiate for results.

> >>>

> >>>There must be more than this reason, for jupiter to

give negative

> >>>results.

> >>>

> >>>regards/Prafulla Gang

> >>>

> >>>vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> >>>

> >><boxdel>

> >>

> >>>wrote:

> >>>

> >>>>Dear Shubhangi,

> >>>>Being an Indian you must know that Jupiter looses

his strength in

> >>>>

> >>>Leo

> >>>

> >>>>and that is why there are no Muhurtas for

marriages when Jupiter

> >>>>occupies Leo or what is called as Simhastha. That

is due to the

> >>>>

> >>>fact of

> >>>

> >>>>Guru lacking Bala. In your brother's case Sun

being in own Rasi

> >>>>

> >>>makes

> >>>

> >>>>him Shubha and therefore good relations with

Father. But I would

> >>>>

> >>>say he

> >>>

> >>>>would not follow father's profession.

> >>>>Chandrashekhar.

> >>>>

> >>>>Shubhangi Naik wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>>>Dear Sir,

> >>>>>

> >>>>>Sorry for intervening in your session, but I

am curious to know

> >>>>>

> >>>the logic behind jupiter losing its strength in leo

and hence this

> >>>email.

> >>>

> >>>>>Yes, your dictum worked in my brother's case

also.

> >>>>>My brother has sun+jup in leo but in 8th, no

doubt he is very

> >>>>>

> >>>intelligent but did not do much well in academics and

yes, he did

> >>>fail once in his 10th class.

> >>>

> >>>>>With my half knowledge I thought the reason to

be the

> >>>>>

> >>positioning

> >>

> >>>of both the planets in 8th, but now curious to know

why jup losses

> >>>strength in leo.

> >>>

> >>>>>But though both planets are positioned in 8th,

both father and

> >>>>>

> >>>son shares good relation with each other.

> >>>

> >>>>>Thanks,

> >>>>>Shubhangi

> >>>>>

> >>>>>On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 Chandrashekhar wrote :

> >>>>>

> >>>>>>Dear Dhira,

> >>>>>>There you see the dictum working. Is it

not?

> >>>>>>Regards,

> >>>>>>Chandrashekhar.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>Dhira Krsna BCS wrote:

>

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September 19, 2004

Hare Rama Krishna

Dear Vishnu,

Can you please elaborate on " i have seen the ugly side of it". What

exactly happened?

i am Scorpio Lagna with Jup & Sat in the 2nd. It becomes difficult

for me to judge, which of them gave which results.

regards

viswanadham

vedic astrology, Vishnu Jandhyala

<jvk1305> wrote:

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> Dear Sri Chandrashekhar & Dhira,

>

> I have Jupiter in 2nd in moolatrikona. I would say I have seen the

ugly

> side of it.

>

> warm regards,

> Vishnu

>

> --- Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote:

>

> > Dear Dhira,

> > In your case it is in Leo. Jupiter looses strength in Leo. Any

> > problems

> > in education?

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > Dhira Krsna BCS wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > >

> > > It's in COVA that when Jupiter occupies 2nd house, it will not

> > count for

> > > karaka bhava nyasa. By the way, I have Jupiter in 2nd house. Any

> > > questions?

> > >

> > > Yours,

> > > Dhira Krsna dasa,

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