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Dear Sir,

One more issue, I have read that Sun in 9th house in enemy house or

debiliated may harm father. In this case Karako bhava nasako theory

is right. What do you say? How Sun enhances 9th house please explain.

Regards,

kannan

vedic astrology, "monmuk111" <monmuk111>

wrote:

> Hello Chandraji:

>

> There is some confusion as to "Jupiter in 2nd, harms the 2nd." You

> may be making an error saying this.

>

> I clearly remember reading in one of Sanjay's books and also seen

> discussed here that "Karak Bhava Naso" dictum doesn't apply to

> Jupiter and Sun, i.e. Jupiter in 9th and Sun in 9th enhance the

> qualities of the 9th house rather than destroy it.

>

> Can you please enlighten us with further explanations. Thanks.

>

> Mukund

>

> vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> wrote:

> > Dear Sunil,

> > It would. A stronger Jupiter there would, likely, cause more harm

> than

> > weaker one. Only exception would be when he is in own house.

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > suniljohn_2002 wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Shri Chandrashekharji, and others,

> > >

> > > A wonderful topic indeed. It would be nice if the following

> queries

> > > are replied although I am deviating from the topic at hand.

> > >

> > > 1. If Jup is in the 2nd house, would it harm the significations

of

> > > the 2nd house e.g wealth.

> > > 2. What would be the effects of a 2nd house Debilitated Jup

> > > 3.What would be the effects of a 2nd house Exalted Jup.

> > >

> > > Kind regards,

> > >

> > > Sunil John

> > > Mumbai

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "poolaat" <poolaat>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Dear Mr Chandrashekhar,

> > > >

> > > > What is the validity of the statement -Jupiter harms the

house

> he

> > > > occupies, can you please explain this with examples ?

> > > >

> > > > Poolaat.

> > > >

> > > > -- In vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> <boxdel>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > Dear David,

> > > > > Jupiter harms the house he occupies. His Joining Moon who

> > > represents

> > > > > Manas (mind), would obviously give mental tension to the

> native.

> > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > >

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September 9, 2004

||Shri GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah||

Namaskar Chandrashekharji and Mukundji,

Mukundji, Sorry to butt in but I think sloka refered is sthana nasha where Jup

is located and not related to Karko karka bhavat principle.

Regarding Jup in 2nd house is very well explained by Shri Katwe in Guru Vichar

(mostly Nala Raja have such Jup) and may be Chandrashekharji, Prabodhji can

throw some light. (I'm not having his book with me)

Even though I'm an amature I'll give try using above ref. Here 2nd H is 11th to

4th and Jup will reduce native's domestic happiness , it's 4th to 11thH and

native will remain dissatified in life irrespective of whatever he gains. And

2nd is 2ndH to Asc hence direct bearings on Native.

Jup in 2nd will cause Dhana nasha around age of 48, if I remember correctly (Ps

cross check with Shri Katwe's Vicharmala) this will continue upto age of 60.

Requestings Gurus to correct me and throw some light here.

REgards,

Vinay Patwardhan

Thu, 09 Sep 2004 21:09:20 -0000 "monmuk111"

<monmuk111 >Re: 2nd house Jup in various roles--to

ChandrajiHello Chandraji:There is some confusion as to "Jupiter in 2nd, harms

the 2nd." You may be making an error saying this. I clearly remember reading in

one of Sanjay's books and also seen discussed here that "Karak Bhava Naso"

dictum doesn't apply to Jupiter and Sun, i.e. Jupiter in 9th and Sun in 9th

enhance the qualities of the 9th house rather than destroy it.Can you please

enlighten us with further explanations. Thanks.Mukund

September 9, 2004

||Shri GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah||

Namaskar Chandrashekharji and Mukundji,

Mukundji, Sorry to butt in but I think sloka refered is sthana nasha

where Jup is located and not related to Karko karka bhavat principle.

Regarding Jup in 2nd house is very well explained by Shri Katwe in

Guru Vichar (mostly Nala Raja have such Jup) and may be

Chandrashekharji, Prabodhji can throw some light. (I'm not having his

book with me)

Even though I'm an amature I'll give try using above ref. Here 2nd H

is 11th to 4th and Jup will reduce native's domestic happiness , it's

4th to 11thH and native will remain dissatified in life irrespective

of whatever he gains. And 2nd is 2ndH to Asc hence direct bearings on

Native.

Jup in 2nd will cause Dhana nasha around age of 48, if I remember

correctly (Ps cross check with Shri Katwe's Vicharmala) this will

continue upto age of 60.

Requestings Gurus to correct me and throw some light here.

REgards,

Vinay Patwardhan

vedic astrology, "monmuk111" <monmuk111>

wrote:

> Hello Chandraji:

>

> There is some confusion as to "Jupiter in 2nd, harms the 2nd." You

> may be making an error saying this.

>

> I clearly remember reading in one of Sanjay's books and also seen

> discussed here that "Karak Bhava Naso" dictum doesn't apply to

> Jupiter and Sun, i.e. Jupiter in 9th and Sun in 9th enhance the

> qualities of the 9th house rather than destroy it.

>

> Can you please enlighten us with further explanations. Thanks.

>

> Mukund

>

> vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> wrote:

> > Dear Sunil,

> > It would. A stronger Jupiter there would, likely, cause more harm

> than

> > weaker one. Only exception would be when he is in own house.

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > suniljohn_2002 wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Shri Chandrashekharji, and others,

> > >

> > > A wonderful topic indeed. It would be nice if the following

> queries

> > > are replied although I am deviating from the topic at hand.

> > >

> > > 1. If Jup is in the 2nd house, would it harm the significations

of

> > > the 2nd house e.g wealth.

> > > 2. What would be the effects of a 2nd house Debilitated Jup

> > > 3.What would be the effects of a 2nd house Exalted Jup.

> > >

> > > Kind regards,

> > >

> > > Sunil John

> > > Mumbai

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "poolaat" <poolaat>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Dear Mr Chandrashekhar,

> > > >

> > > > What is the validity of the statement -Jupiter harms the

house

> he

> > > > occupies, can you please explain this with examples ?

> > > >

> > > > Poolaat.

> > > >

> > > > -- In vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> <boxdel>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > Dear David,

> > > > > Jupiter harms the house he occupies. His Joining Moon who

> > > represents

> > > > > Manas (mind), would obviously give mental tension to the

> native.

> > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > >

> > > > > energonmusic wrote:

> > > > >

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September 10, 2004

If i remember correctly, Jupiter in the 5th causes karaka bhava naasa esp in

regards to children esp if jupiter is in his own house or exalted. There is a

dictum that states Jupiter being in the 5th in cancer causes childlessness.

Also, from what i remember, Sanjay-ji does in his book state Jupiter/Sun does

not always cause karaka bhava naasa and he cites this 9th house example, which

is correct.

Regards,

- Jaimonmuk111 <monmuk111 > wrote:

Hello Chandraji:There is some confusion as to "Jupiter in 2nd, harms the 2nd."

You may be making an error saying this. I clearly remember reading in one of

Sanjay's books and also seen discussed here that "Karak Bhava Naso" dictum

doesn't apply to Jupiter and Sun, i.e. Jupiter in 9th and Sun in 9th enhance

the qualities of the 9th house rather than destroy it.Can you please enlighten

us with further explanations. Thanks.Mukund

September 10, 2004

Dear Mukund,

If my memory serves me right that is only applicable if Jupiter

occupies own house in 2nd. Why not check horoscopes of persons with

Jupiter in 2nd to find out what is right?

Chandrashekhar.

monmuk111 wrote:

Hello Chandraji:

There is some confusion as to "Jupiter in 2nd, harms the 2nd." You

may be making an error saying this.

I clearly remember reading in one of Sanjay's books and also seen

discussed here that "Karak Bhava Naso" dictum doesn't apply to

Jupiter and Sun, i.e. Jupiter in 9th and Sun in 9th enhance the

qualities of the 9th house rather than destroy it.

Can you please enlighten us with further explanations. Thanks.

Mukund

vedic astrology,

Chandrashekhar

wrote:

> Dear Sunil,

> It would. A stronger Jupiter there would, likely, cause more harm

than

> weaker one. Only exception would be when he is in own house.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> suniljohn_2002 wrote:

>

> > Dear Shri Chandrashekharji, and others,

> >

> > A wonderful topic indeed. It would be nice if the following

queries

> > are replied although I am deviating from the topic at hand.

> >

> > 1. If Jup is in the 2nd house, would it harm the

significations of

> > the 2nd house e.g wealth.

> > 2. What would be the effects of a 2nd house Debilitated Jup

> > 3.What would be the effects of a 2nd house Exalted Jup.

> >

> > Kind regards,

> >

> > Sunil John

> > Mumbai

> >

> > vedic astrology,

"poolaat"

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Mr Chandrashekhar,

> > >

> > > What is the validity of the statement -Jupiter harms the

house

he

> > > occupies, can you please explain this with examples ?

> > >

> > > Poolaat.

> > >

> > > -- In vedic astrology,

Chandrashekhar

> > wrote:

> > > > Dear David,

> > > > Jupiter harms the house he occupies. His Joining

Moon who

> > represents

> > > > Manas (mind), would obviously give mental tension

to the

native.

> > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > >

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September 10, 2004

I have Venus and Jupiter in Second house ... My birth details is as

follow ...

Birth date : 5th March 1975

Time : 7.00 AM

Place Bombay , India ...

I have just passed thru the Jupiter in Venus Maha dasa...

Mukund and Chandreshkhar ji , Do you want to analyze it ? I will post my exp. of

same period. later sometime...

Bye ,

Yogesh Shah

Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear Mukund,If my memory serves me right that is only applicable if Jupiter

occupies own house in 2nd. Why not check horoscopes of persons with Jupiter in

2nd to find out what is right?Chandrashekhar.monmuk111 wrote:

Hello Chandraji:There is some confusion as to "Jupiter in 2nd, harms the 2nd."

You may be making an error saying this. I clearly remember reading in one of

Sanjay's books and also seen discussed here that "Karak Bhava Naso" dictum

doesn't apply to Jupiter and Sun, i.e. Jupiter in 9th and Sun in 9th enhance

the qualities of the 9th house rather than destroy it.Can you please enlighten

us with further explanations. Thanks.Mukund--- In

vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote:> Dear

Sunil,> It would. A stronger Jupiter there would, likely, cause more harm than

> weaker one. Only exception would be when he is in own house.>

Chandrashekhar.> >

suniljohn_2002 wrote:> > > Dear Shri Chandrashekharji, and others,> >> > A

wonderful topic indeed. It would be nice if the following queries> > are

replied although I am deviating from the topic at hand.> >> > 1. If Jup is in

the 2nd house, would it harm the significations of> > the 2nd house e.g

wealth.> > 2. What would be the effects of a 2nd house Debilitated Jup> >

3.What would be the effects of a 2nd house Exalted Jup.> >> > Kind regards,> >>

> Sunil John> > Mumbai> >> >> > vedic astrology,

"poolaat" <poolaat>> > wrote:> > > Dear Mr Chandrashekhar,> > >> > > What

is the

validity of the statement -Jupiter harms the house he> > > occupies, can you

please explain this with examples ?> > >> > > Poolaat.> > >> > >> > > -- In

vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel>> > wrote:> > > >

Dear David,> > > > Jupiter harms the house he occupies. His Joining Moon who> >

represents> > > > Manas (mind), would obviously give mental tension to the

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September 10, 2004

||Shri GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah||

Namaskar Chandrashekharji ,

Thanks for the guidence.

REgarding the dictum provided in old texts , there is always a confusion and but

in this case I find it's showing correct results as per sloka even if we

consider parents ,relatives from native's chart, but within limits. After

observing this in real life , I'd tried to wrtie about it.So it's best to

depends on practical results, as stated by you.

Any way this is my personal opinion and I may be wrong also.

Learned ones and Gurus may rectify me.

REgards,

Vinay Patwardhan

-

Chandrashekhar

Vinay Patwardhan

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Saturday, September 11, 2004 2:39 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: 2nd house Jup in various roles--to Chandraji

Dear Vinay,Jupiter's harming the house he occupies is a principle which is

difficult to understand till one thinks of planets as benefic and Malefic only.

Astrologers have different views on this. I go by the dictum of Jupiter harms

the house he occupies and Saturn protects the house he occupies, even if he

might not help the house. This is stated in old texts and I have given the

shloka a number of times. I have always said that one must apply the principles

to real life charts and find out for one self.Chandrashekhar.Vinay Patwardhan

wrote:

||Shri GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah||

Namaskar Chandrashekharji and Mukundji,

Mukundji, Sorry to butt in but I think sloka refered is sthana nasha where Jup

is located and not related to Karko karka bhavat principle.

Regarding Jup in 2nd house is very well explained by Shri Katwe in Guru Vichar

(mostly Nala Raja have such Jup) and may be Chandrashekharji, Prabodhji can

throw some light. (I'm not having his book with me)

Even though I'm an amature I'll give try using above ref. Here 2nd H is 11th to

4th and Jup will reduce native's domestic happiness , it's 4th to 11thH and

native will remain dissatified in life irrespective of whatever he gains. And

2nd is 2ndH to Asc hence direct bearings on Native.

Jup in 2nd will cause Dhana nasha around age of 48, if I remember correctly (Ps

cross check with Shri Katwe's Vicharmala) this will continue upto age of 60.

Requestings Gurus to correct me and throw some light here.

REgards,

Vinay Patwardhan

Thu, 09 Sep 2004 21:09:20 -0000 "monmuk111"

<monmuk111 >Re: 2nd house Jup in various roles--to

ChandrajiHello Chandraji:There is some confusion as to "Jupiter in 2nd, harms

the 2nd." You may be making an error saying this. I clearly remember reading in

one of Sanjay's books and also seen discussed here that "Karak Bhava Naso"

dictum doesn't apply to Jupiter and Sun, i.e. Jupiter in 9th and Sun in 9th

enhance the qualities of the 9th house rather than destroy it.Can you please

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Dear Yogesh,

You should have had a good period as Jupiter is in own house. Now doubt

some problems could have been there as jupiter is also 11th lord ,

perhaps in second half of the Jup Antar. Some travel or even marriage,

if not already married in 2003 as Jupiter had joined the 7th in transit

then. Some problems regarding associates could have arisen in 2003.

Chandrashekhar.

Jitjag wrote:

hi Mukund and Chandrashekhar ji,

I have Venus and Jupiter in Second house ... My birth

details is as follow ...

Birth date : 5th March 1975

Time : 7.00 AM

Place Bombay , India ...

I have just passed thru the Jupiter in Venus Maha dasa...

Mukund and Chandreshkhar ji , Do you want to analyze it ? I will

post my exp. of same period. later sometime...

Bye ,

Yogesh Shah

Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear

Mukund,

If my memory serves me right that is only applicable if Jupiter

occupies own house in 2nd. Why not check horoscopes of persons with

Jupiter in 2nd to find out what is right?

Chandrashekhar.

monmuk111 wrote:

Hello

Chandraji:

There is some confusion as to "Jupiter in 2nd, harms the 2nd." You

may be making an error saying this.

I clearly remember reading in one of Sanjay's books and also seen

discussed here that "Karak Bhava Naso" dictum doesn't apply to

Jupiter and Sun, i.e. Jupiter in 9th and Sun in 9th enhance the

qualities of the 9th house rather than destroy it.

Can you please enlighten us with further explanations. Thanks.

Mukund

vedic astrology,

Chandrashekhar <boxdel>

wrote:

> Dear Sunil,

> It would. A stronger Jupiter there would, likely, cause more harm

than

> weaker one. Only exception would be when he is in own house.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> suniljohn_2002 wrote:

>

> > Dear Shri Chandrashekharji, and others,

> >

> > A wonderful topic indeed. It would be nice if the following

queries

> > are replied although I am deviating from the topic at hand.

> >

> > 1. If Jup is in the 2nd house, would it harm the

significations of

> > the 2nd house e.g wealth.

> > 2. What would be the effects of a 2nd house Debilitated Jup

> > 3.What would be the effects of a 2nd house Exalted Jup.

> >

> > Kind regards,

> >

> > Sunil John

> > Mumbai

> >

> > vedic astrology,

"poolaat" <poolaat>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Mr Chandrashekhar,

> > >

> > > What is the validity of the statement -Jupiter harms the

house

he

> > > occupies, can you please explain this with examples ?

> > >

> > > Poolaat.

> > >

> > > -- In vedic astrology,

Chandrashekhar

> > wrote:

> > > > Dear David,

> > > > Jupiter harms the house he occupies. His Joining

Moon who

> > represents

> > > > Manas (mind), would obviously give mental tension

to the

native.

> > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > >

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Hello Yogesh,

Self has always believed in dictum

"Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva Bhava Vriddhi karau Shani"

This dictum says that your family life must have been greatly got

affected and peace destroyed due to Guru in 2nd.

Also financial losses are indicated .

Tatvam-Asi

vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel>

wrote:

> Dear Yogesh,

> You should have had a good period as Jupiter is in own house. Now

doubt

> some problems could have been there as jupiter is also 11th lord ,

> perhaps in second half of the Jup Antar. Some travel or even

marriage,

> if not already married in 2003 as Jupiter had joined the 7th in

transit

> then. Some problems regarding associates could have arisen in 2003.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> Jitjag wrote:

>

> > hi Mukund and Chandrashekhar ji,

> >

> > I have Venus and Jupiter in Second house ... My birth

details

> > is as follow ...

> >

> > Birth date : 5th March 1975

> > Time : 7.00 AM

> > Place Bombay , India ...

> >

> > I have just passed thru the Jupiter in Venus Maha dasa...

> >

> > Mukund and Chandreshkhar ji , Do you want to analyze it ? I will

post

> > my exp. of same period. later sometime...

> >

> > Bye ,

> >

> > Yogesh Shah

> >

> > */Chandrashekhar <boxdel>/* wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mukund,

> > If my memory serves me right that is only applicable if

Jupiter

> > occupies own house in 2nd. Why not check horoscopes of

persons

> > with Jupiter in 2nd to find out what is right?

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > monmuk111 wrote:

> >

> >> Hello Chandraji:

> >>

> >> There is some confusion as to "Jupiter in 2nd, harms the

2nd." You

> >> may be making an error saying this.

> >>

> >> I clearly remember reading in one of Sanjay's books and also

seen

> >> discussed here that "Karak Bhava Naso" dictum doesn't apply

to

> >> Jupiter and Sun, i.e. Jupiter in 9th and Sun in 9th enhance

the

> >> qualities of the 9th house rather than destroy it.

> >>

> >> Can you please enlighten us with further explanations.

Thanks.

> >>

> >> Mukund

> >>

> >> vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> >> wrote:

> >> > Dear Sunil,

> >> > It would. A stronger Jupiter there would, likely, cause

more harm

> >> than

> >> > weaker one. Only exception would be when he is in own

house.

> >> > Chandrashekhar.

> >> >

> >> > suniljohn_2002 wrote:

> >> >

> >> > > Dear Shri Chandrashekharji, and others,

> >> > >

> >> > > A wonderful topic indeed. It would be nice if the

following

> >> queries

> >> > > are replied although I am deviating from the topic at

hand.

> >> > >

> >> > > 1. If Jup is in the 2nd house, would it harm the

> >> significations of

> >> > > the 2nd house e.g wealth.

> >> > > 2. What would be the effects of a 2nd house Debilitated

Jup

> >> > > 3.What would be the effects of a 2nd house Exalted Jup.

> >> > >

> >> > > Kind regards,

> >> > >

> >> > > Sunil John

> >> > > Mumbai

> >> > >

> >> > > vedic astrology, "poolaat"

> >> > > wrote:

> >> > > > Dear Mr Chandrashekhar,

> >> > > >

> >> > > > What is the validity of the statement -Jupiter harms

the house

> >> he

> >> > > > occupies, can you please explain this with examples ?

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Poolaat.

> >> > > >

> >> > > > -- In vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> >> <boxdel>

> >> > > wrote:

> >> > > > > Dear David,

> >> > > > > Jupiter harms the house he occupies. His Joining

Moon who

> >> > > represents

> >> > > > > Manas (mind), would obviously give mental tension to

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Dear Shri Yogesh

Though exalted,joining his shathru in 2nd wont be very good for

Venus.Thus definitely some difficulties would had been there.

Whenever jupiter and Venus are together in a bhava ,it will be like

a tug of war.Venus as a yogakaraka,would had given some benefits

during this jupiter antar.This benefit can be related to 7th

house,11th house and 2nd.(transit wise)

Moreover venus is in the navamsha of jupiter.If there was some - it

might have happened during Venus-Jupiter-Venus.Apart from this

benefit, difficulties could be possible w.r to 4th & 2nd houses

throughout this antara.

As Chandrashekhar ji has mentioned Jupiter being in own sign will

never spoil the second indications in total,though it will take you

through really tough phases.

Ashtama shani would had given some mental worries as well.I have

seen another chart where guru and venus are in 2nd house

(dhanu).Venus suffers from kendra dosha(7th ownership) and being

placed in 2nd boosting the same.

Thus jupiter antardasha in venus dasha was really bad,but jupiter

being the lord of 5th joining 7th lord venus ,there was rajayoga w.r

to husband during this period(Ladies chart).

Also in that case jupiter being a trinal lord helped Venus to a

great extent in diluting the kendra/maraka dosha.In your case there

are no such kendra doshas.Slight dosha out of 4th lordship will be

overcomed by a great extent due to 9th lordship,though will remain

in slight quantities, being in 2nd.

In general i feel ,apart from isolated gains the antara would had

been troublesome.Venus has low shadbala.

Thanks

Pradeep

vedic astrology, "nameisego" <nameisego>

wrote:

>

> Hello Yogesh,

> Self has always believed in dictum

> "Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva Bhava Vriddhi karau Shani"

> This dictum says that your family life must have been greatly got

> affected and peace destroyed due to Guru in 2nd.

> Also financial losses are indicated .

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> wrote:

> > Dear Yogesh,

> > You should have had a good period as Jupiter is in own house.

Now

> doubt

> > some problems could have been there as jupiter is also 11th

lord ,

> > perhaps in second half of the Jup Antar. Some travel or even

> marriage,

> > if not already married in 2003 as Jupiter had joined the 7th in

> transit

> > then. Some problems regarding associates could have arisen in

2003.

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > Jitjag wrote:

> >

> > > hi Mukund and Chandrashekhar ji,

> > >

> > > I have Venus and Jupiter in Second house ... My birth

> details

> > > is as follow ...

> > >

> > > Birth date : 5th March 1975

> > > Time : 7.00 AM

> > > Place Bombay , India ...

> > >

> > > I have just passed thru the Jupiter in Venus Maha dasa...

> > >

> > > Mukund and Chandreshkhar ji , Do you want to analyze it ? I

will

> post

> > > my exp. of same period. later sometime...

> > >

> > > Bye ,

> > >

> > > Yogesh Shah

> > >

> > > */Chandrashekhar <boxdel>/* wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mukund,

> > > If my memory serves me right that is only applicable if

> Jupiter

> > > occupies own house in 2nd. Why not check horoscopes of

> persons

> > > with Jupiter in 2nd to find out what is right?

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > monmuk111 wrote:

> > >

> > >> Hello Chandraji:

> > >>

> > >> There is some confusion as to "Jupiter in 2nd, harms the

> 2nd." You

> > >> may be making an error saying this.

> > >>

> > >> I clearly remember reading in one of Sanjay's books and

also

> seen

> > >> discussed here that "Karak Bhava Naso" dictum doesn't

apply

> to

> > >> Jupiter and Sun, i.e. Jupiter in 9th and Sun in 9th

enhance

> the

> > >> qualities of the 9th house rather than destroy it.

> > >>

> > >> Can you please enlighten us with further explanations.

> Thanks.

> > >>

> > >> Mukund

> > >>

> > >> vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> <boxdel>

> > >> wrote:

> > >> > Dear Sunil,

> > >> > It would. A stronger Jupiter there would, likely, cause

> more harm

> > >> than

> > >> > weaker one. Only exception would be when he is in own

> house.

> > >> > Chandrashekhar.

> > >> >

> > >> > suniljohn_2002 wrote:

> > >> >

> > >> > > Dear Shri Chandrashekharji, and others,

> > >> > >

> > >> > > A wonderful topic indeed. It would be nice if the

> following

> > >> queries

> > >> > > are replied although I am deviating from the topic at

> hand.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > 1. If Jup is in the 2nd house, would it harm the

> > >> significations of

> > >> > > the 2nd house e.g wealth.

> > >> > > 2. What would be the effects of a 2nd house

Debilitated

> Jup

> > >> > > 3.What would be the effects of a 2nd house Exalted

Jup.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Kind regards,

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Sunil John

> > >> > > Mumbai

> > >> > >

> > >> > > vedic astrology, "poolaat"

> <poolaat>

> > >> > > wrote:

> > >> > > > Dear Mr Chandrashekhar,

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > What is the validity of the statement -Jupiter

harms

> the house

> > >> he

> > >> > > > occupies, can you please explain this with

examples ?

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > Poolaat.

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > -- In vedic astrology,

Chandrashekhar

> > >> <boxdel>

> > >> > > wrote:

> > >> > > > > Dear David,

> > >> > > > > Jupiter harms the house he occupies. His Joining

> Moon who

> > >> > > represents

> > >> > > > > Manas (mind), would obviously give mental tension

to

> the

> > >> native.

> > >> > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >> > > > >

> > >> > > > > energonmusic wrote:

> > >> > > > >

> > >> > >

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> > >> vedic astrology/info.html

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Dear Mr. Trivedi:

Does this dictum about Jupiter apply to its placement in birth chart

or Jupiter in 2nd from Moon during transit?

The reason I ask is because all the classics say that Jupiter

transiting 2nd from Moon gives very good results. But, the dictum you

noted below says opposite.

I'm quite sure your dictum applies to birth chart rather than

transit, but please confirm.

Thanks.

Mukund

vedic astrology, "nameisego" <nameisego>

wrote:

>

> Hello Yogesh,

> Self has always believed in dictum

> "Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva Bhava Vriddhi karau Shani"

> This dictum says that your family life must have been greatly got

> affected and peace destroyed due to Guru in 2nd.

> Also financial losses are indicated .

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> wrote:

> > Dear Yogesh,

> > You should have had a good period as Jupiter is in own house. Now

> doubt

> > some problems could have been there as jupiter is also 11th

lord ,

> > perhaps in second half of the Jup Antar. Some travel or even

> marriage,

> > if not already married in 2003 as Jupiter had joined the 7th in

> transit

> > then. Some problems regarding associates could have arisen in

2003.

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > Jitjag wrote:

> >

> > > hi Mukund and Chandrashekhar ji,

> > >

> > > I have Venus and Jupiter in Second house ... My birth

> details

> > > is as follow ...

> > >

> > > Birth date : 5th March 1975

> > > Time : 7.00 AM

> > > Place Bombay , India ...

> > >

> > > I have just passed thru the Jupiter in Venus Maha dasa...

> > >

> > > Mukund and Chandreshkhar ji , Do you want to analyze it ? I

will

> post

> > > my exp. of same period. later sometime...

> > >

> > > Bye ,

> > >

> > > Yogesh Shah

> > >

> > > */Chandrashekhar <boxdel>/* wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mukund,

> > > If my memory serves me right that is only applicable if

> Jupiter

> > > occupies own house in 2nd. Why not check horoscopes of

> persons

> > > with Jupiter in 2nd to find out what is right?

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > monmuk111 wrote:

> > >

> > >> Hello Chandraji:

> > >>

> > >> There is some confusion as to "Jupiter in 2nd, harms the

> 2nd." You

> > >> may be making an error saying this.

> > >>

> > >> I clearly remember reading in one of Sanjay's books and

also

> seen

> > >> discussed here that "Karak Bhava Naso" dictum doesn't

apply

> to

> > >> Jupiter and Sun, i.e. Jupiter in 9th and Sun in 9th

enhance

> the

> > >> qualities of the 9th house rather than destroy it.

> > >>

> > >> Can you please enlighten us with further explanations.

> Thanks.

> > >>

> > >> Mukund

> > >>

> > >> vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> <boxdel>

> > >> wrote:

> > >> > Dear Sunil,

> > >> > It would. A stronger Jupiter there would, likely, cause

> more harm

> > >> than

> > >> > weaker one. Only exception would be when he is in own

> house.

> > >> > Chandrashekhar.

> > >> >

> > >> > suniljohn_2002 wrote:

> > >> >

> > >> > > Dear Shri Chandrashekharji, and others,

> > >> > >

> > >> > > A wonderful topic indeed. It would be nice if the

> following

> > >> queries

> > >> > > are replied although I am deviating from the topic at

> hand.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > 1. If Jup is in the 2nd house, would it harm the

> > >> significations of

> > >> > > the 2nd house e.g wealth.

> > >> > > 2. What would be the effects of a 2nd house

Debilitated

> Jup

> > >> > > 3.What would be the effects of a 2nd house Exalted Jup.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Kind regards,

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Sunil John

> > >> > > Mumbai

> > >> > >

> > >> > > vedic astrology, "poolaat"

> <poolaat>

> > >> > > wrote:

> > >> > > > Dear Mr Chandrashekhar,

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > What is the validity of the statement -Jupiter harms

> the house

> > >> he

> > >> > > > occupies, can you please explain this with examples ?

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > Poolaat.

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > -- In vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> > >> <boxdel>

> > >> > > wrote:

> > >> > > > > Dear David,

> > >> > > > > Jupiter harms the house he occupies. His Joining

> Moon who

> > >> > > represents

> > >> > > > > Manas (mind), would obviously give mental tension

to

> the

> > >> native.

> > >> > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >> > > > >

> > >> > > > > energonmusic wrote:

> > >> > > > >

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Group info:

> > >> vedic astrology/info.html

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Dear Chandrashekhar,

It's in COVA that when Jupiter occupies 2nd house, it will not count for

karaka bhava nyasa. By the way, I have Jupiter in 2nd house. Any

questions?

Yours,

Dhira Krsna dasa,

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Hello Mukund ji,

Yes your understanding isright.

It pertains to Janma Kundali .

Just the day before, this was proved by an old client who has

Jupiter in 2nd house.

He not only incurred losses of Millions of rupees but also is on

verge of Bancruptcy.

He forced his mother to sell off premium properties and after selling

it she lives in a small flat in Bombay.

He sold off shop and is now at home.

Tatvam-Asi

vedic astrology, "monmuk111" <monmuk111>

wrote:

> Dear Mr. Trivedi:

>

> Does this dictum about Jupiter apply to its placement in birth

chart

> or Jupiter in 2nd from Moon during transit?

>

> The reason I ask is because all the classics say that Jupiter

> transiting 2nd from Moon gives very good results. But, the dictum

you

> noted below says opposite.

>

> I'm quite sure your dictum applies to birth chart rather than

> transit, but please confirm.

>

> Thanks.

> Mukund

>

> vedic astrology, "nameisego"

> wrote:

> >

> > Hello Yogesh,

> > Self has always believed in dictum

> > "Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva Bhava Vriddhi karau Shani"

> > This dictum says that your family life must have been greatly got

> > affected and peace destroyed due to Guru in 2nd.

> > Also financial losses are indicated .

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi

> >

> > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> <boxdel>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Yogesh,

> > > You should have had a good period as Jupiter is in own house.

Now

> > doubt

> > > some problems could have been there as jupiter is also 11th

> lord ,

> > > perhaps in second half of the Jup Antar. Some travel or even

> > marriage,

> > > if not already married in 2003 as Jupiter had joined the 7th in

> > transit

> > > then. Some problems regarding associates could have arisen in

> 2003.

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > Jitjag wrote:

> > >

> > > > hi Mukund and Chandrashekhar ji,

> > > >

> > > > I have Venus and Jupiter in Second house ... My birth

> > details

> > > > is as follow ...

> > > >

> > > > Birth date : 5th March 1975

> > > > Time : 7.00 AM

> > > > Place Bombay , India ...

> > > >

> > > > I have just passed thru the Jupiter in Venus Maha dasa...

> > > >

> > > > Mukund and Chandreshkhar ji , Do you want to analyze it ? I

> will

> > post

> > > > my exp. of same period. later sometime...

> > > >

> > > > Bye ,

> > > >

> > > > Yogesh Shah

> > > >

> > > > */Chandrashekhar <boxdel>/* wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mukund,

> > > > If my memory serves me right that is only applicable if

> > Jupiter

> > > > occupies own house in 2nd. Why not check horoscopes of

> > persons

> > > > with Jupiter in 2nd to find out what is right?

> > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > >

> > > > monmuk111 wrote:

> > > >

> > > >> Hello Chandraji:

> > > >>

> > > >> There is some confusion as to "Jupiter in 2nd, harms the

> > 2nd." You

> > > >> may be making an error saying this.

> > > >>

> > > >> I clearly remember reading in one of Sanjay's books and

> also

> > seen

> > > >> discussed here that "Karak Bhava Naso" dictum doesn't

> apply

> > to

> > > >> Jupiter and Sun, i.e. Jupiter in 9th and Sun in 9th

> enhance

> > the

> > > >> qualities of the 9th house rather than destroy it.

> > > >>

> > > >> Can you please enlighten us with further explanations.

> > Thanks.

> > > >>

> > > >> Mukund

> > > >>

> > > >> vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> > <boxdel>

> > > >> wrote:

> > > >> > Dear Sunil,

> > > >> > It would. A stronger Jupiter there would, likely,

cause

> > more harm

> > > >> than

> > > >> > weaker one. Only exception would be when he is in own

> > house.

> > > >> > Chandrashekhar.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > suniljohn_2002 wrote:

> > > >> >

> > > >> > > Dear Shri Chandrashekharji, and others,

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > A wonderful topic indeed. It would be nice if the

> > following

> > > >> queries

> > > >> > > are replied although I am deviating from the topic

at

> > hand.

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > 1. If Jup is in the 2nd house, would it harm the

> > > >> significations of

> > > >> > > the 2nd house e.g wealth.

> > > >> > > 2. What would be the effects of a 2nd house

> Debilitated

> > Jup

> > > >> > > 3.What would be the effects of a 2nd house Exalted

Jup.

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > Kind regards,

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > Sunil John

> > > >> > > Mumbai

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > vedic astrology, "poolaat"

> > <poolaat>

> > > >> > > wrote:

> > > >> > > > Dear Mr Chandrashekhar,

> > > >> > > >

> > > >> > > > What is the validity of the statement -Jupiter

harms

> > the house

> > > >> he

> > > >> > > > occupies, can you please explain this with

examples ?

> > > >> > > >

> > > >> > > > Poolaat.

> > > >> > > >

> > > >> > > > -- In vedic astrology,

Chandrashekhar

> > > >> <boxdel>

> > > >> > > wrote:

> > > >> > > > > Dear David,

> > > >> > > > > Jupiter harms the house he occupies. His Joining

> > Moon who

> > > >> > > represents

> > > >> > > > > Manas (mind), would obviously give mental

tension

> to

> > the

> > > >> native.

> > > >> > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > >> > > > >

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Hi,

I have Jupiter in 2nd House together with Sat and Moon. Jupiter is

transiting in the second house. How does that apply to this

condition. As per my understanding, the effect is good. I'd like to

know your view:

DOB: Jan 26, 1981

TOB: 19:55

Place: Manila, Philippines

Regards,

Kamlesh

vedic astrology, "monmuk111" <monmuk111>

wrote:

> Dear Mr. Trivedi:

>

> Does this dictum about Jupiter apply to its placement in birth

chart

> or Jupiter in 2nd from Moon during transit?

>

> The reason I ask is because all the classics say that Jupiter

> transiting 2nd from Moon gives very good results. But, the dictum

you

> noted below says opposite.

>

> I'm quite sure your dictum applies to birth chart rather than

> transit, but please confirm.

>

> Thanks.

> Mukund

>

> vedic astrology, "nameisego"

> wrote:

> >

> > Hello Yogesh,

> > Self has always believed in dictum

> > "Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva Bhava Vriddhi karau Shani"

> > This dictum says that your family life must have been greatly

got

> > affected and peace destroyed due to Guru in 2nd.

> > Also financial losses are indicated .

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi

> >

> > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> <boxdel>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Yogesh,

> > > You should have had a good period as Jupiter is in own house.

Now

> > doubt

> > > some problems could have been there as jupiter is also 11th

> lord ,

> > > perhaps in second half of the Jup Antar. Some travel or even

> > marriage,

> > > if not already married in 2003 as Jupiter had joined the 7th

in

> > transit

> > > then. Some problems regarding associates could have arisen in

> 2003.

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > Jitjag wrote:

> > >

> > > > hi Mukund and Chandrashekhar ji,

> > > >

> > > > I have Venus and Jupiter in Second house ... My

birth

> > details

> > > > is as follow ...

> > > >

> > > > Birth date : 5th March 1975

> > > > Time : 7.00 AM

> > > > Place Bombay , India ...

> > > >

> > > > I have just passed thru the Jupiter in Venus Maha dasa...

> > > >

> > > > Mukund and Chandreshkhar ji , Do you want to analyze it ? I

> will

> > post

> > > > my exp. of same period. later sometime...

> > > >

> > > > Bye ,

> > > >

> > > > Yogesh Shah

> > > >

> > > > */Chandrashekhar <boxdel>/* wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mukund,

> > > > If my memory serves me right that is only applicable if

> > Jupiter

> > > > occupies own house in 2nd. Why not check horoscopes of

> > persons

> > > > with Jupiter in 2nd to find out what is right?

> > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > >

> > > > monmuk111 wrote:

> > > >

> > > >> Hello Chandraji:

> > > >>

> > > >> There is some confusion as to "Jupiter in 2nd, harms

the

> > 2nd." You

> > > >> may be making an error saying this.

> > > >>

> > > >> I clearly remember reading in one of Sanjay's books and

> also

> > seen

> > > >> discussed here that "Karak Bhava Naso" dictum doesn't

> apply

> > to

> > > >> Jupiter and Sun, i.e. Jupiter in 9th and Sun in 9th

> enhance

> > the

> > > >> qualities of the 9th house rather than destroy it.

> > > >>

> > > >> Can you please enlighten us with further explanations.

> > Thanks.

> > > >>

> > > >> Mukund

> > > >>

> > > >> vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> > <boxdel>

> > > >> wrote:

> > > >> > Dear Sunil,

> > > >> > It would. A stronger Jupiter there would, likely,

cause

> > more harm

> > > >> than

> > > >> > weaker one. Only exception would be when he is in own

> > house.

> > > >> > Chandrashekhar.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > suniljohn_2002 wrote:

> > > >> >

> > > >> > > Dear Shri Chandrashekharji, and others,

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > A wonderful topic indeed. It would be nice if the

> > following

> > > >> queries

> > > >> > > are replied although I am deviating from the topic

at

> > hand.

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > 1. If Jup is in the 2nd house, would it harm the

> > > >> significations of

> > > >> > > the 2nd house e.g wealth.

> > > >> > > 2. What would be the effects of a 2nd house

> Debilitated

> > Jup

> > > >> > > 3.What would be the effects of a 2nd house Exalted

Jup.

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > Kind regards,

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > Sunil John

> > > >> > > Mumbai

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > vedic astrology, "poolaat"

> > <poolaat>

> > > >> > > wrote:

> > > >> > > > Dear Mr Chandrashekhar,

> > > >> > > >

> > > >> > > > What is the validity of the statement -Jupiter

harms

> > the house

> > > >> he

> > > >> > > > occupies, can you please explain this with

examples ?

> > > >> > > >

> > > >> > > > Poolaat.

> > > >> > > >

> > > >> > > > -- In vedic astrology,

Chandrashekhar

> > > >> <boxdel>

> > > >> > > wrote:

> > > >> > > > > Dear David,

> > > >> > > > > Jupiter harms the house he occupies. His

Joining

> > Moon who

> > > >> > > represents

> > > >> > > > > Manas (mind), would obviously give mental

tension

> to

> > the

> > > >> native.

> > > >> > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > >> > > > >

> > > >> > > > > energonmusic wrote:

> > > >> > > > >

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > Archives: vedic-

astrology

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> > > >> > > Group info:

> > > >> vedic astrology/info.html

> > > >> > >

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> > > >>

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> > > >> > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri

Krishnaarpanamastu

> ||

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--- nameisego <nameisego wrote:

>Dear Mr Trivedi,

Could you please give the Kundali specs of your old client. This is an

important observation we are discussing about Jup in 2nd house giving

poverty and the overall picture of the chart would greatly help in

ruling out any other caus..

Pran Razdan

>

> Hello Mukund ji,

> Yes your understanding isright.

> It pertains to Janma Kundali .

> Just the day before, this was proved by an old client who has

> Jupiter in 2nd house.

> He not only incurred losses of Millions of rupees but also is on

> verge of Bancruptcy.

> He forced his mother to sell off premium properties and after selling

>

> it she lives in a small flat in Bombay.

> He sold off shop and is now at home.

> Tatvam-Asi

vedic astrology, "monmuk111" <monmuk111>

> wrote:

> > Dear Mr. Trivedi:

> >

> > Does this dictum about Jupiter apply to its placement in birth

> chart

> > or Jupiter in 2nd from Moon during transit?

> >

> > The reason I ask is because all the classics say that Jupiter

> > transiting 2nd from Moon gives very good results. But, the dictum

> you

> > noted below says opposite.

> >

> > I'm quite sure your dictum applies to birth chart rather than

> > transit, but please confirm.

> >

> > Thanks.

> > Mukund

> >

> > vedic astrology, "nameisego"

> <nameisego>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello Yogesh,

> > > Self has always believed in dictum

> > > "Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva Bhava Vriddhi karau Shani"

> > > This dictum says that your family life must have been greatly got

>

> > > affected and peace destroyed due to Guru in 2nd.

> > > Also financial losses are indicated .

> > >

> > > Tatvam-Asi

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> > <boxdel>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Dear Yogesh,

> > > > You should have had a good period as Jupiter is in own house.

> Now

> > > doubt

> > > > some problems could have been there as jupiter is also 11th

> > lord ,

> > > > perhaps in second half of the Jup Antar. Some travel or even

> > > marriage,

> > > > if not already married in 2003 as Jupiter had joined the 7th in

>

> > > transit

> > > > then. Some problems regarding associates could have arisen in

> > 2003.

> > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > >

> > > > Jitjag wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > hi Mukund and Chandrashekhar ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I have Venus and Jupiter in Second house ... My birth

>

> > > details

> > > > > is as follow ...

> > > > >

> > > > > Birth date : 5th March 1975

> > > > > Time : 7.00 AM

> > > > > Place Bombay , India ...

> > > > >

> > > > > I have just passed thru the Jupiter in Venus Maha dasa...

> > > > >

> > > > > Mukund and Chandreshkhar ji , Do you want to analyze it ? I

> > will

> > > post

> > > > > my exp. of same period. later sometime...

> > > > >

> > > > > Bye ,

> > > > >

> > > > > Yogesh Shah

> > > > >

> > > > > */Chandrashekhar <boxdel>/* wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Mukund,

> > > > > If my memory serves me right that is only applicable if

> > > Jupiter

> > > > > occupies own house in 2nd. Why not check horoscopes of

> > > persons

> > > > > with Jupiter in 2nd to find out what is right?

> > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > >

> > > > > monmuk111 wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >> Hello Chandraji:

> > > > >>

> > > > >> There is some confusion as to "Jupiter in 2nd, harms the

>

> > > 2nd." You

> > > > >> may be making an error saying this.

> > > > >>

> > > > >> I clearly remember reading in one of Sanjay's books and

> > also

> > > seen

> > > > >> discussed here that "Karak Bhava Naso" dictum doesn't

> > apply

> > > to

> > > > >> Jupiter and Sun, i.e. Jupiter in 9th and Sun in 9th

> > enhance

> > > the

> > > > >> qualities of the 9th house rather than destroy it.

> > > > >>

> > > > >> Can you please enlighten us with further explanations.

> > > Thanks.

> > > > >>

> > > > >> Mukund

> > > > >>

> > > > >> vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> > > <boxdel>

> > > > >> wrote:

> > > > >> > Dear Sunil,

> > > > >> > It would. A stronger Jupiter there would, likely,

> cause

> > > more harm

> > > > >> than

> > > > >> > weaker one. Only exception would be when he is in own

> > > house.

> > > > >> > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > suniljohn_2002 wrote:

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > > Dear Shri Chandrashekharji, and others,

> > > > >> > >

> > > > >> > > A wonderful topic indeed. It would be nice if the

> > > following

> > > > >> queries

> > > > >> > > are replied although I am deviating from the topic

> at

> > > hand.

> > > > >> > >

> > > > >> > > 1. If Jup is in the 2nd house, would it harm the

> > > > >> significations of

> > > > >> > > the 2nd house e.g wealth.

> > > > >> > > 2. What would be the effects of a 2nd house

> > Debilitated

> > > Jup

> > > > >> > > 3.What would be the effects of a 2nd house Exalted

> Jup.

> > > > >> > >

> > > > >> > > Kind regards,

> > > > >> > >

> > > > >> > > Sunil John

> > > > >> > > Mumbai

> > > > >> > >

> > > > >> > > vedic astrology, "poolaat"

> > > <poolaat>

> > > > >> > > wrote:

> > > > >> > > > Dear Mr Chandrashekhar,

> > > > >> > > >

> > > > >> > > > What is the validity of the statement -Jupiter

> harms

> > > the house

> > > > >> he

> > > > >> > > > occupies, can you please explain this with

> examples ?

> > > > >> > > >

> > > > >> > > > Poolaat.

> > > > >> > > >

> > > > >> > > > -- In vedic astrology,

> Chandrashekhar

> > > > >> <boxdel>

> > > > >> > > wrote:

> > > > >> > > > > Dear David,

> > > > >> > > > > Jupiter harms the house he occupies. His Joining

>

> > > Moon who

> > > > >> > > represents

> > > > >> > > > > Manas (mind), would obviously give mental

> tension

>

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September 13, 2004

Dear Dhira,

In your case it is in Leo. Jupiter looses strength in Leo. Any problems

in education?

Chandrashekhar.

Dhira Krsna BCS wrote:

Dear Chandrashekhar,

It's in COVA that when Jupiter occupies 2nd house, it will not count for

karaka bhava nyasa. By the way, I have Jupiter in 2nd house. Any

questions?

Yours,

Dhira Krsna dasa,

Jyotishi

> > http://www.geocities.com/dvdd1008/Jyotisha.html

September 13, 2004

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

Dear Sri Chandrashekhar & Dhira,

I have Jupiter in 2nd in moolatrikona. I would say I have seen the ugly

side of it.

warm regards,

Vishnu

--- Chandrashekhar <boxdel wrote:

> Dear Dhira,

> In your case it is in Leo. Jupiter looses strength in Leo. Any

> problems

> in education?

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> Dhira Krsna BCS wrote:

>

> > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> >

> > It's in COVA that when Jupiter occupies 2nd house, it will not

> count for

> > karaka bhava nyasa. By the way, I have Jupiter in 2nd house. Any

> > questions?

> >

> > Yours,

> > Dhira Krsna dasa,

> > Jyotishi

> > http://www.radhadesh.com

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Can you please give me the source of the dictum.

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Sunday, September 12, 2004 8:06 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: 2nd house Jup in various roles--to Chandraji

Hello Yogesh,Self has always believed in dictum "Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva Bhava

Vriddhi karau Shani"This dictum says that your family life must have been

greatly got affected and peace destroyed due to Guru in 2nd.Also financial

losses are indicated .Tatvam-Asivedic astrology,

Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote:> Dear Yogesh,> You should have had a good

period as Jupiter is in own house. Now doubt > some problems could have been

there as jupiter is also 11th lord , > perhaps in second half of the Jup Antar.

Some travel or even marriage, > if not already married in 2003 as Jupiter had

joined the 7th in transit > then. Some problems regarding associates could have

arisen in 2003.> Chandrashekhar.> > Jitjag wrote:> > > hi Mukund and

Chandrashekhar ji,> > > > I have Venus and Jupiter in Second house ...

My birth details > > is as follow ...> > > > Birth date : 5th March 1975> >

Time : 7.00 AM> > Place Bombay , India ...> > > > I have just passed thru the

Jupiter in Venus Maha dasa... > > > > Mukund and Chandreshkhar ji , Do you

want to analyze it ? I will post > > my exp. of same period. later sometime...>

> > > > > Bye ,> > > > Yogesh Shah> > > >> > */Chandrashekhar

<boxdel>/* wrote:> >> > Dear Mukund,> > If my memory serves me

right that is only applicable if Jupiter> > occupies own house in 2nd. Why

not check horoscopes of persons> > with Jupiter in 2nd to find out what is

right?> > Chandrashekhar.> >> > monmuk111 wrote:> >> >> Hello

Chandraji:> >>> >> There is some confusion as to "Jupiter in 2nd, harms the

2nd." You> >> may be making an error saying this.> >>> >> I clearly

remember reading in one of Sanjay's books and also seen> >> discussed here

that "Karak Bhava Naso" dictum doesn't apply to> >> Jupiter and Sun, i.e.

Jupiter in 9th and Sun in 9th enhance the> >> qualities of the 9th house

rather than destroy it.> >>> >> Can you please enlighten us with further

explanations. Thanks.> >>> >> Mukund> >>> >> --- In

vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel>> >> wrote:>

>> > Dear Sunil,> >> > It would. A stronger Jupiter there would,

likely, cause more harm> >> than> >> > weaker one. Only exception would

be when he is in own house.> >> > Chandrashekhar.> >> >> >> >

suniljohn_2002 wrote:> >> >> >> > > Dear Shri Chandrashekharji, and

others,> >> > >> >> > > A wonderful topic indeed. It would be nice if

the following> >> queries> >> > > are replied although I am deviating

from the topic at hand.> >> > >> >> > > 1. If Jup is in the 2nd house,

would it harm the> >> significations of> >> > > the 2nd house e.g

wealth.> >> > > 2. What would be the effects of a 2nd house Debilitated

Jup> >> > > 3.What would be the effects of a 2nd house Exalted Jup.> >>

> >> >> > > Kind regards,> >> > >> >> > > Sunil John> >> > >

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September 14, 2004

Dear Vishnu,

The dictum rarely fails.

Chandrashekhar.

Vishnu Jandhyala wrote:

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

Dear Sri Chandrashekhar & Dhira,

I have Jupiter in 2nd in moolatrikona. I would say I have seen the ugly

side of it.

warm regards,

Vishnu

--- Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

> Dear Dhira,

> In your case it is in Leo. Jupiter looses strength in Leo. Any

> problems

> in education?

> Chandrashekhar.

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> Dhira Krsna BCS wrote:

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> >

> > It's in COVA that when Jupiter occupies 2nd house, it will not

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Dear Chandrashekhar ji ,Vishnu Ji & Trivedi Ji

My mother has Jupiter in 2nd(Dhanu) along with Venus.Venus being a

maraka/Kendradhipathi has brought difficulties by itself.

But such were reduced to a great extent due to 5th lordship of

jupiter.Similar to your observation, dhana indications were severely

affected as she lost lot of properties.But as jupiter being in own

sign and by Gods grace, the bhava was never spoiled.Moreover Jupiter

& Venus brought rajayoga results for husband due to 7th&5th

ownerships, during Venus dasha/Jupiter antar,though this

antara was worse otherwise.

Thanks

Pradeep

vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel>

wrote:

> Dear Vishnu,

> The dictum rarely fails.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> Vishnu Jandhyala wrote:

>

> > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> > Dear Sri Chandrashekhar & Dhira,

> >

> > I have Jupiter in 2nd in moolatrikona. I would say I have seen

the ugly

> > side of it.

> >

> > warm regards,

> > Vishnu

> >

> > --- Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Dhira,

> > > In your case it is in Leo. Jupiter looses strength in Leo. Any

> > > problems

> > > in education?

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > Dhira Krsna BCS wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > >

> > > > It's in COVA that when Jupiter occupies 2nd house, it will

not

> > > count for

> > > > karaka bhava nyasa. By the way, I have Jupiter in 2nd house.

Any

> > > > questions?

> > > >

> > > > Yours,

> > > > Dhira Krsna dasa,

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Dear Sri Pradeep,

In my case neither was dhana nor was education affected but family was

destroyed. Interestingly, my Jupiter dasa is to start in 2009 with it

being in Mrityu Shashtiamsa and in 3rd(marana karaka sthana) in D-60.

In my D-1 its lord of GL(ghatika lagna) and in D-10 its with GL. It

could mean rise in profession but probable destruction of family life!

who knows!

warm regards,

Vishnu

--- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> Dear Chandrashekhar ji ,Vishnu Ji & Trivedi Ji

>

> My mother has Jupiter in 2nd(Dhanu) along with Venus.Venus being a

> maraka/Kendradhipathi has brought difficulties by itself.

> But such were reduced to a great extent due to 5th lordship of

> jupiter.Similar to your observation, dhana indications were severely

> affected as she lost lot of properties.But as jupiter being in own

> sign and by Gods grace, the bhava was never spoiled.Moreover Jupiter

> & Venus brought rajayoga results for husband due to 7th&5th

> ownerships, during Venus dasha/Jupiter antar,though this

> antara was worse otherwise.

>

> Thanks

> Pradeep

>

> vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel>

> wrote:

> > Dear Vishnu,

> > The dictum rarely fails.

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > Vishnu Jandhyala wrote:

> >

> > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> > > Dear Sri Chandrashekhar & Dhira,

> > >

> > > I have Jupiter in 2nd in moolatrikona. I would say I have seen

> the ugly

> > > side of it.

> > >

> > > warm regards,

> > > Vishnu

> > >

> > > --- Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Dhira,

> > > > In your case it is in Leo. Jupiter looses strength in Leo. Any

> > > > problems

> > > > in education?

> > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > >

> > > > Dhira Krsna BCS wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > > >

> > > > > It's in COVA that when Jupiter occupies 2nd house, it will

> not

> > > > count for

> > > > > karaka bhava nyasa. By the way, I have Jupiter in 2nd house.

> Any

> > > > > questions?

> > > > >

> > > > > Yours,

> > > > > Dhira Krsna dasa,

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Dear Vishnu ji

Kindly send your chart details if you dont mind.

All indications may not fructify is my humble view.Our prayers are

accounted to a great extent.

Thanks

Pradeep

vedic astrology, Vishnu Jandhyala

<jvk1305> wrote:

> Dear Sri Pradeep,

>

> In my case neither was dhana nor was education affected but family

was

> destroyed. Interestingly, my Jupiter dasa is to start in 2009 with

it

> being in Mrityu Shashtiamsa and in 3rd(marana karaka sthana) in D-

60.

>

> In my D-1 its lord of GL(ghatika lagna) and in D-10 its with GL. It

> could mean rise in profession but probable destruction of family

life!

> who knows!

>

> warm regards,

> Vishnu

>

> --- vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

>

> > Dear Chandrashekhar ji ,Vishnu Ji & Trivedi Ji

> >

> > My mother has Jupiter in 2nd(Dhanu) along with Venus.Venus being

a

> > maraka/Kendradhipathi has brought difficulties by itself.

> > But such were reduced to a great extent due to 5th lordship of

> > jupiter.Similar to your observation, dhana indications were

severely

> > affected as she lost lot of properties.But as jupiter being in

own

> > sign and by Gods grace, the bhava was never spoiled.Moreover

Jupiter

> > & Venus brought rajayoga results for husband due to 7th&5th

> > ownerships, during Venus dasha/Jupiter antar,though this

> > antara was worse otherwise.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Pradeep

> >

> > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Vishnu,

> > > The dictum rarely fails.

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > Vishnu Jandhyala wrote:

> > >

> > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> > > > Dear Sri Chandrashekhar & Dhira,

> > > >

> > > > I have Jupiter in 2nd in moolatrikona. I would say I have

seen

> > the ugly

> > > > side of it.

> > > >

> > > > warm regards,

> > > > Vishnu

> > > >

> > > > --- Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Dear Dhira,

> > > > > In your case it is in Leo. Jupiter looses strength in Leo.

Any

> > > > > problems

> > > > > in education?

> > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > >

> > > > > Dhira Krsna BCS wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It's in COVA that when Jupiter occupies 2nd house, it

will

> > not

> > > > > count for

> > > > > > karaka bhava nyasa. By the way, I have Jupiter in 2nd

house.

> > Any

> > > > > > questions?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yours,

> > > > > > Dhira Krsna dasa,

> > > > > > Jyotishi

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Dear Vishnu,

Probably because Jupiter is retrograde....

>I have Jupiter in 2nd in moolatrikona. I would say I have seen the ugly

>side of it.

Yours,

Dhira Krsna dasa,

Jyotishi

September 14, 2004

Dear Dhira,

There you see the dictum working. Is it not?

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

Dhira Krsna BCS wrote:

Dear Chandrashekhar,

In your case it is in Leo. Jupiter looses strength in Leo. Any problems

in education?

No, except for one year I didn't study and failed. That was in 1986-87, my

first year of university. Interesting, I get Vimshottari Ven-Rahu-Jup and

Sat for that year.

Yours,

Dhira Krsna dasa,

Jyotishi