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Are you kidding me? The Guru of the Beatles deserved every bad name in the book by the media. I am glad he got exposed. He lived in a 200 room mansion and made millions under the guise of yoga and Hinduism. People like him deserve no respect. The news comments had nothing to do with Hinduism, they were just exposing this fake Guru. The only person from the Beattles that was really a true Hindu was George Harrison. He was a disciple of Swami Prabhupada and even though he still battled with addiction here and there, his spirituality really helped him become a better person and Swami Prabupada didn't take millions from him. I am sick of these fake gurus using Hinduism for their own benefits. These selfish people need to be ousted at any given chance. And you are comparing to Mother Theresa? Yea Mother Theresa might have been a Catholic but dare compare some fake Guru to her. I would say Amma is more like a Hindu Mother Theresa

what have you been reading? brit propaganda from the 19th century. there is no evidence what so ever that it was based on race or skin color. most modern scholars reject it.

really? well then its rather odd that you would make a statement like this to Arjuna Haridas: its funny how you accuse others of nieng non hindu when you are not a hindu yourself

well you're not really a hindu, i think you are a non hindu pretending to be a hindu

typical response from a hindu extremist

do you think so? i think vaishnavas focus heavily on puranas- vishnu and bahagavat purana etc...not as much on vedantic philosophy, if not hardly it all. vedantic philosophy it is also based on realization and yoga dont you agree?

this is not true. hindus have always regarded vishnu, shiva as one as it is written in the scriptures. i am sure there were hindus that saw vishnu, shiva as different gods but those were ones that did not read the scriptures or not well versed in them. vishnu is not fake, vishnu is mentioned in the vedas. hindus today are basing their beliefs off of vedic/vedantic aspect which believes god is one. while the hindus that worship many gods and believe in different gods are basing their belief off of puranic/mythology aspect which was very popular during the gupta era. so hindus today who believe god is one etc... are actually following the older version of hinduism then the puranic hindus. i feel that the puranas were meant to be for morals but people worship the gods in there. i do agree that vaishnavas have made vishnu/krishna very christian like but the bhagavad gita was written before the bible. krishna was a diety who was originally associated with the upanishadic philosophy (bhagavad gita) and later on he became very messiah like when the puranas were written focusing on his childhood, pastimes. many say that jesus is a copy cat of krishna. also there were a lot of other saviour types who had similar characteristics as jesus etc.... krishna and jesus are not the same though, there lives are very different from each other except for some similarities. jesus never came to india ether.there is no proof for this what so ever. there is not even any evidence that he existed according to many. plus krishna is mentioned in ancient writings that date back to 4bc before any supposed jesus which concludes that the two cannot be the same. just because vishnu is acciated with savior type qualities should not make vishnu fake. vishnu/krishna like i said were originally associated with upanishadic philosophy which sees them as infinite and formless. the idea of vishnu incarnating was meant to show how the formless comes to form to put human biengs into the right path but during the gupta era many many puranas were written which focus of human aspect of vishnu/krishna which is more of what hindus today follow then the philosophy. this is why vaishnavas are more fussy then shaivas because shaivas are closer to the original upanishadic philosophy ( but they also follow some puranas like shiva puranas) and vaishnavas today focus heavily on puranas (not so much upanishads), and half of these puranas claim vishnu is supreme and this and that. if they had followed the upanishads then they would understand that vishnu/shiva are one but because vaishnavas follow the puranas, whic claim vishnu is supreme they don't understand the oness of the two. and there is actually archeological evidence of vishnu, recently found ancient idols of vishnu in russia, but he was definitely not originally russian diety because the phenotype of the statues are not caucasian in any sense. so this probably means that there was some contact between hindus and russians. there are also vishnu idols found in cambodia etc... too.

this is not true. hindus have always regarded vishnu, shiva as one as it is written in the scriptures. i am sure there were hindus that saw vishnu, shiva as different gods but those were ones that did not read the scriptures or not well versed in them. vishnu is not fake, vishnu is mentioned in the vedas. hindus today are basing their beliefs off of vedic/vedantic aspect which beliefs god is one. while the hindus that worship many gods and believe in different gods are basing their belief off of puranic/mythology aspect which was very popular during the gupta era. so hindus today who believe god is one etc... are actually following the older version of hinduism then the puranic hindus. i feel that the puranas were meant to be for morals but people worship the gods in there. i do agree that vaishnavas have made vishnu/krishna very christian like but the bhagavad gita was written before the bible. krishna was a diety who was originally associated with the upanishadic philosophy and later on he became very messiah like. but many say that jesus is a copy cat of krishna. also there were a lot of other saviour types who had similar characteristics as jesus etc.... krishna and jesus are not the same though, there lies are very different from each other except for some similarities. jesus never came to india. there is not even any evidence that he existed according to many. plus krishna is mentioned in ancient writings that date back to 4bc before any supposed jesus.

this is not true. hindus have always regarded vishnu, shiva as one as it is written in the scriptures. i am sure there were hindus that saw vishnu, shiva as different gods but those were ones that did not read the scriptures or not well versed in them. vishnu is not fake, vishnu is mentioned in the vedas. hindus today are basing their beliefs off of vedic/vedantic aspect which believes god is one. while the hindus that worship many gods and believe in different gods are basing their belief off of puranic/mythology aspect which was very popular during the gupta era. so hindus today who believe god is one etc... are actually following the older version of hinduism then the puranic hindus. i feel that the puranas were meant to be for morals but people worship the gods in there literally.

padma purana is not authentic though

again another crock of bs vishnu and shiva (rudra) are both mentioned in the vedas.

another bs. ved vyasa did not call shiva purana tamasic.

you are right on it!

this is what i meant when i said its a shame that people havent grasped vedism. they are one the vedic text say all a part of supreme reality. they are just different forms.vishnu is infinite and so is shiva. it doesnt take a scientist to grasp this concept.

vmsunder your claims are a load of bs. the dravidian aryan theory has no basis. they are language groups not races. the aryan theory was a british theory so you might as well just stop promoting your non sense here. plus according to the so called aryan theorists, vishnu and krishna are "non aryan" gods which would refute your entire claim.plus vaishnava theology has had much popularity among the tamils and they along with vedic gods are mentioned in sacred tamil epics which date to 200 bc. vaishnavas and shaivas form a complete whole with their roots from the same culture in india.there is no racial difference between the two sects.

unfortunately, majority of these people have failed the entire teaching of vedic religion. thank you for confirming maybe they can learn from you or maybe they wont and will be too busy debating rather then following vedic religion it is absolutely a shame that all of these debaters since historical times have never grasped what the Vedic religion taught- there is no difference between shiva and vishnu. they are one.and you have their very incarnations here on this board who dont understand their own scriptures and religion either and spend hours of their time debating like little babies.

actually I was guest and i had a lot of anger by reading many things that were written by anti-hindu sites. it wasn't until i did proper research did i find that the truth. you are right the vedas were from God and caste was flexible society back then. i have apologized earlier for my remarks. and i want to come out in the open for showing what an idiot I was. I hope those who had my views can learn that Hinduism is not what the anti-hindus make it seem. the caste system is not a part of hinduism it is a malfunction by greedy people. all religions have problems. I have realizing that blaming Hinduism is wrong as it does not support this.

ohh ok well that makes sense

I still dont get it. So they just use the names Rama and Krishna but dont consider it a name for God? Why would you use those names? Also, most Hindus I know believe Rama and Krishna to be God incarnates but also the eternal supreme Truth that is omnipresent and resided within you.

but dont hindus do the same thing?

so hindus use the name Rama Krishna for who they are and the supreme whole Sikhs only use it for thr supreme?

hindus believe the same thing though, rama and krishna are names for God who is omnipresent and can you give me more insight on the name Rama existing before Ramachandra

I had some questions about Sikhism if anyone here can answer would be great. I had read some where that Hindu concepts and Hindu God's appear in the Guru Granth Sahib over 15,000 times. When I go to Sikh sites and read some of what they talk about in reference to Hindu terms and God's the Sikhs say that they are not the same thing as in Hinduism. But how can someone use the term Krishna, Shiv, Durga but not actually mean Krishna, Shiv, or Durga? Like for example, how can a religion say they believe in Jesus, Moses as names for the divine but not actually mean Jesus, Moses but something else. It sounds a bit strange. Some of them also say that books like Ramayana and Mahabharata are fiction and myth and Sikhism is a practical religion but then why do Sikh Gurus use stories from these books? The Sikhs are saying that Gurus did not mean the same thing as in Hinduism but I don't get what's the difference? Some are even saying that the name for Hindu Gods like Ram and Shiva existed before Rama and Shiva and that Rama means Moon and Shiva means power and are completely different from Hinduism. So I guess now Sikhs chant Rama for moon God and not Rama. Can some one confirm from scholars that Rama existed before Ramachandra? and that Shiva only means power. They also say Hari only means God and is not accosiated with Vishnu and never was but I have found no reference in the history of India that the name Hari was ever seperate from Vishnu. If someone here can give me scholarly reference would be nice thanks.

The biggest problem is our soceity is the fact that everyne calls these people Brahmins. Even those that hate them still call them Brahmins. Thje more you people continue to call these people Brahmins you are only giving them what they want which is to carry a name so they can continue to have power, ego and brag. The first step is to completely stop calling these poeple Brahmins. Then they will realize that they no longer desrve the respect they demand from society under the guise of their caste. So i urge you not to refer to him or any birth Brahmin as Brahmin, and if they call themselves Brahmin and Hindu you can just laugh in their face, let them have their little dreams inside their head. Sooner or later they will realize that no one cares about their so called caste and this is how you will create true Vedic culture and all the leeches who call themselves Brahmins will no longer do so in the name of the their filthy caste system, which is shows no support in Hindu scripture.