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I see myself as an organism and part of the greater Oganism (of mother nature). But not just material...spiritually active. Maybe in that sense under guidance of super-soul we hold some responsibility for healing...and a crystalization of goodness while still in this body (earth). From little things big things grow! ........ width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value=" "></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src=" " type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

I could imagine Suchandra...intergrating in a new culture is a huge thing. Years ago I lived in Latin America for maybe 6 months in total...these days being a more aware conscious person things may not be so simple. It is even difficult to integrate into our own societies and live spiritual...it would be awesome if we had facility close to our familiar home. I pray that if we ask God for such gift he may grant the way oneday:pray:. A nice little circle would be fine.

walking devotees reach Pandarpur to meet their favorite God, Krishna. walk on my friend!!!

http://www.sheridanhill.com/freeing.html Read this book a few years ago, very insightful about the nature of fear. One segment in particular was about the fear developed in our group consciousness after Hiroshima. And its lingering effect. Prabhupada made these quotes after experience of that world changing event - the potential capability for man to destroy itself (never before seen in our western history). I would love George Bush to read this book, and see the consequence of our action, which can last for generations. He may have his call from God then (universal responsibility) - otherwise its just self-delusion his divine call IMHO. If Big Mac (McCain) becomes the new US president (with his own war credential), I hope his Junior Burger (vice president) is more considerate of the consequence of action and how that effects future generations, than Mr Cheney was. (please forgive my dark humor its not really funny) <small>Freeing the Soul From Fear <small> <small> </small></small></small> © 1999 Sheridan Hill Freeing the Soul From Fear, Robert Sardello's third book, shines a relentless light on fear, but it is mainly about love. Sardello, whose perspective grows from a 20-year practice as a depth psychologist, maintains that the real power of fear lives in our wish to avoid it. He carefully explores the fragmenting effects of fear and describes how we might meet fear with its only antidote-- love. Freeing the Soul From Fear is based on Sardello's premise that soul is not an entity but a capacity, and freeing it involves "participating in fear, not naively, but with the greatest intensity of consciousness and attention we are able to muster." He recommends developing a more sensory awareness of the world, and becoming familiar with the "field" between us and others. He proposes that by awakening our senses to what occurs in the field, we can invite soul back into our living being and find the courage to face our fears. His previous book, Love and the Soul, asks, How can I love you in a way that frees you? Questions raised in this third book range from interesting (How do we love the unpleasant aspects of another person?), to difficult (What does consciousness consist of?), to those that are nearly impossible (Why are we here?). A chapter on artistic living reminds readers that bringing the arts into our lives integrates the physical with soul and spirit. Musicians, writers, and artists, who work toward truth in a bodily way, show us that our feelings are not our possessions: the colors and sounds of an average day are loaded with feeling. Poets show us how to "jump into the abyss of not knowing, and there let language come to us and speak through us." Included in the book are exercises designed to counter the constricting effects of fear. The main tools required of the reader are imagination and a willingness to re-imagine work life, relationships, our experience of the speed of time, and our perceptions of anxiety. If there is a problem with Freeing the Soul, it is that it asks so much of us. For instance, to abandon the idea that we should find new ways to speak to soul, and instead to make ourselves available for soul to speak to us. Then again, perhaps we are only asked to live out of our inherent spiritual nature. As the poet Antonio Machado wrote, “After living and dreaming comes what matters most: waking up." Sardello chaired the psychology department at the University of Dallas and co-founded the Dallas Institute of Humanities and Culture, where he worked closely with James Hillman and Thomas Moore in the 1980s. A book jacket quote from Thomas Moore reads: "Robert Sardello is one of the most creative thinkers I know. He writes from a combination of breathtaking originality with heartfelt compassion." Robert Sardello <small>co-founded the School of Spiritual Psychology, which offers courses throughout the U.S., Canada, and England and can be reached at 336- 279-8259.</small> Read more about Sardello's work: <small> Creating soulful relationships for the future of the world</small> <small> </small> Love and the World: A conscious guide to soul practice <small> Dying Awake the daily practice of dying is a profound act of soul-making. </small>

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I have some friends who have experienced mania, and I have also encountered my own spiritual emergency crisis. From my own encounter this dysfunction was actually the shadow of something more latent, balanced and true of my personality. The key to that discovery is spiritual awakening on deeper levels. In the book below Srila BA Paramadvaiti Swami says: levels of consciousness are unlimited, and the human can enter new and newer levels of conscious awareness (paraphrased). I had the below section of Srila Paramadvaiti Swami's book 'Perennial Psychology - Oida Therapy' in mind when I made the above statement. Ancient it is a truly remarkable book, by a truly remarkable broadminded, visionary, Hare Krsna guru. He has guided his followers very well in Latin America - they have established fully functional 'natural' communities as Suchandra pointed to in his above post. I offer you my heart mate, please read the Oida Therapy book - it has blessed my life. I have met two of his disciples - one was a very balanced young lady, full of love and devotion, an amazing artist. The other was a colombian man, a doctor. The son of a shaman. A very lovely man who had found full actualization in love under the care and shelter of Srila Paramadvaiti. This gurus vision is very broad, and in that sense appeals to my own vision of Krsna consciousness beyond the limited vision. (I am not his disciple by the way - I just appreciate him as an exceptional teacher) download it here: http://www.oidatherapy.org/download.htm#oida_manual excerpt here: <!--[if gte mso 10]> .......> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:#0400; mso-fareast-language:#0400; mso-bidi-language:#0400;} ........> <![endif]-->

from Brahma-vaivarta-purana: bhasmi bhutani tanyeva, vaishnavalinganena ca; trinani shushka kasthani, dahanti pavako yatha. [6] “Just as dry grass or wood is consumed by fire, simply by the embrace of these Vaishnavas all sins of the living entities will be burnt. tathapi vaishnava loke, papani papinamapi; prithivyam yani tirthani, punyanyapi ca jahnavi. [7] "O Ganges (Jahnavi), the whole planet will become a most auspicious pilgrimage sight by the presence of these Vaishnavas, even though it had been very sinful in the past 5000 years. mad bhaktanam sharireshu, santi puteshu santatam; mad bhakta pada rajasa, sadah puta vasundhara. [8] “In the body of My devotees, there is extraordinary potency to purify everything. Thus even Mother Earth will become purified by the dust of the feet of My devotees. sadyah putani tirthani, sadyah putam jagat tatha; man mantropasaka vipra, ye mad ucchishta bhojinah. [9] “As My devotees will purify the whole world, they will purify even the pilgrimage sites. Those intelligent learned followers of the worshiper of My maha-mantra (Lord Gauranga), will only partake of My remnants (prasadam) and thus purify everything. mam eva nityam dhyayante, te mat pranadhikah priyah; tad upasparsha matrena, puto vayushca pavakah. [10]“Those who meditate on Me constantly by the chanting of the Hare Krishna maha-mantra, are more dear to Me than My very life. Even the air and fire (which are already purifiers) will become pure simply even by their indirect touch. kaler dasha-sahasrani, mad bhaktah santi bhutale; eka varna bhavishyanti, mad bhakteshu gateshu ca. [11]“For 10,000 years of Kali (which will be the Golden Age brought by the Lord in the form of Lord Gauranga Mahaprabhu), such devotees of Mine will fill the whole planet. After the departure of My devotees, all of those who will remain will be like outcastes. mad bhakta shunya prithivi, kali grasta bhavishyati; eta smin namtare tatra, krishna dehad vinirgatah. [12]“After these 10,000* years, completely devoid of My devotees, the earth will be shackled again by Kali’s strong influence (as described in the 12th Canto of the Bhagavata Purana).” Saying this, Lord Krishna departed. (*Kali-yuga total duration is 432,000 years. So after 5,000 years of sinful degradation and the next 10,000 years of the Golden Age (1486 AD to 11486 AD) of Lord Gauranga Mahaprabhu as described above, the balance 417,000 years of Kali-yuga will be the most sinful period for the earth planet due to the complete domination by the personality of Kali. At the end, i.e. 427,000 years from now, the Lord will appear on a white horse in his partial incarnation of Kalki to annihilate the demons and restablish the Satya-yuga. So we are extremely fortunate to have taken birth in this Golden Age and not waste this most rare opportunity.) click here for more

This is really interesting subject matter worth considering. The western course of history has been presented to modern thinkers with an 'ethnocentric' bias by the western academies and intellectuals for many years. A bias of superiority. This trend is slowly passing thank god. One example of this is indigenous practice of shamanism in the Americas. The western ethno-centric bias discarded these shamanic practices as primitive. Only until the last decade has the western scientific field again began to research the deep healing modalities hidden within these ancient traditions. It is very interesting to note, as the western academia has began to move beyond its ethno-centric bias and misplaced superiority, the so-called primitive knowledge is beginning to reveal many beneficial secrets (even backed by modern western scientific fields). One example is new research into entheo-botanicals for new types of psychiatric medicine. I am intuiting that the new strains of psychiatric drugs will be very effective for the treatment of depression and schizophrenia. The ancient botanicals work in a vastly different way to modern tranquilizers and inhibitors. What to say of the broad field of human experience, and the depth and treasure concealed within the vedic tradition. I feel as modern man can move beyond his ethno-centric bias, many treasures of the ancients may be re-applied as a panacea for todays ills. Those who discard the treasure hidden within ancient culture and its relevance for today are either narrow minded or ill informed. And may be missing a real treasure. If the modern world takes its current course and holds the 'capitalist ideal' as the pinnacle of man's achievement it will slowly degrade. The vedic tradition is far superior than this misplaced ideal...and can bring us back to a more natural way of life...even up to the point of full realization of the absolute as a living Personality. The consequence of a mass awakening of this kind on planet earth is almost to profound to explain in words...Srila Prabhupada knew (as does our disciplic succession). What I find most beneficial for my own spiritual journey, coming in contact with eastern thought, is that life and evolution is continous for the individual soul (taking the course of its transmigration). This opens the door for firm committment to gradually choose growth as a spiritual being - eventually evolving and fully actualizing in one birth as servant to humanity. If each of us could actualize this vision and spread this way, then a 10,000 year golden age becomes not just a hope or pipedream, but instead a very achievable reality. Their is alot of hope Ancient Mariner, if we have the vision to take the call of destiny! Personally I would choose life at every crossroads and choice...and not hopelessness, degradation, and death. All great souls have taken that course.

In short what I am trying to say is what I learnt from my master: 'Faith in the Holy Name is the key!' That will ensue God's will. (End material vision.) This name will bring about all desired outcome - I have faith in that. If cow can be the central nerve system of nature to the mystic...just imagine what the Name can be, and Is! I am of the opinion we dont need to enforce rules....instead simply encourage others to vibrate Naam (even beginning with half an hour a day of jaap or kirtan). The rest will be spontaneous if we take up a small vow to vibrate Naam each day - it is that potent. Jaya Nitaai-Gauranga! Hare Krsna!

That is such a nice (mystic) realization Prabhu thx...I am sure the rational materialist would have a hard time grasping that vision of life. There has been great scientific thinkers who would grasp it...Jung, Fromm, Grof, just to name a few...but they are rare. Only if we were intellegent enough to dialogue with such quality people. Fromm dilaogued much with Suzuki (buddhist) - our philosophy (Krsna consciousness) is as good! Our disciplic succession has a great gift to offer. Fulfillment of human life as a person/Person. I am not a strict follower of Srila Prabhupada, but I perceive this in his vision: He hoped to set up a society that could set an example. And within that society have high quality (realized) brahminical leadership that could sway great minds and leaders of society, by their pure example. Gita says the general public follow great leaders - great leaders set example so others may follow. He knew this would be possible due to his strong faith in Krsna and His Holy Name. I have hope Suchandra!!! But unfortunately power took charge, sectarianism took foot....and the rest is history. To the simple seeker division is unappealing, and the idea of surrender to these structures is not desired. Maybe now the only hope is if good leaders appear within the Hare Krsna societies and take up Srila Prabhupada's vision again (with a 10,000 year long goal plan - starting now)...and let Krsna be the supreme power. But who am I to speak out Suchandra...I cant even focus on my own baggage and clear it except by God's grace! Back to your point... If we can hold a simple creature like a cow as a sacred nerve centre, maybe then we will come close to the mystery of the way of life of the ancient (vedic) culture. Infact this natural culture was existent in many cultures...until the rational man took charge and saw faith as hogwash. But times are changing and people are seeking truth still. Use of force? Why use the taliban as the example? Because we live now...and frustrated people can be swayed to fundamentalism easy. We as a Vedic society have a better option (we can set an example as a diverse krsna conscious society) and sway the intelligent and frustrated our way...instead of the counter-feit(fundamentalist extreme). The extremists call out 'in the name of allah we take the sword'. Kalki will come in his own name and do the job, he will not employ some misfit minion (shoe bomber)! You can probably tell how much I dislike fundamentalism. Sorry about that:pray:.

http://www.360darshan.com/ http://www.360darshan.com/index.php/the-panoramas/navadwip way cool....thx visnujana!

The pinnacle of real knowledge is infact...'deep realization of the Personal'. But such deep 'realization' is so rare...that a gradual process is necessary it seems. Personal should still be taught as the ideal for humanity...for in that perfection humanity will reach its destiny (fully conscious awareness of service to super-soul - Sri Krsna). That service is what distinguishes us from the animal/spirit soul. It is our potential.

...in reference to my above post...leaders need to teach 'real knowledge' to the masses...for gradual upliftment and enlightenment of society at large...culminating in fully realized God (Krsna) consciousness. (Far different from moralistic religious fundamentalism and force.) SB6.1.10 TEXT 10 kvacin nivartate ’bhadrāt kvacic carati tat punaḥ prāyaścittam atho ’pārthaṁ manye kuñjara-śaucavat SYNONYMS kvacit—sometimes; nivartate—ceases; abhadrāt—from sinful activity; kvacit—sometimes; carati—commits; tat—that (sinful activity); punaḥ—again; prāyaścittam—the process of atonement; atho—therefore; apārtham—useless; manye—I consider; kuñjara-śaucavat—exactly like the bathing of an elephant. TRANSLATION Sometimes one who is very alert so as not to commit sinful acts is victimized by sinful life again. I therefore consider this process of repeated sinning and atoning to be useless. It is like the bathing of an elephant, for an elephant cleanses itself by taking a full bath, but then throws dust over its head and body as soon as it returns to the land. PURPORT When Parīkṣit Mahārāja inquired how a human being could free himself from sinful activities so as not to be forced to go to hellish planetary systems after death, Śukadeva Gosvāmī answered that the process of counteracting sinful life is atonement. In this way Śukadeva Gosvāmī tested the intelligence of Mahārāja Parīkṣit, who passed the examination by refusing to accept this process as genuine. Now Parīkṣit Mahārāja is expecting another answer from his spiritual master, Śukadeva Gosvāmī. SB6.1.11 TEXT 11 śrī-bādarāyaṇir uvāca karmaṇā karma-nirhāro na hy ātyantika iṣyate avidvad-adhikāritvāt prāyaścittaṁ vimarśanam SYNONYMS śrī-bādarāyaṇiḥ uvāca—Śukadeva Gosvāmī, the son of Vyāsadeva, replied; karmaṇā—by fruitive activities; karma-nirhāraḥ—counteraction of fruitive activities; na—not; hi—indeed; ātyantikaḥ—final; iṣyate—becomes possible; avidvat-adhikāritvāt—from being without knowledge; prāyaścittam—real atonement; vimarśanam—full knowledge of Vedānta. TRANSLATION Śukadeva Gosvāmī, the son of Vedavyāsa, answered: My dear King, since acts meant to neutralize impious actions are also fruitive, they will not release one from the tendency to act fruitively. Persons who subject themselves to the rules and regulations of atonement are not at all intelligent. Indeed, they are in the mode of darkness. Unless one is freed from the mode of ignorance, trying to counteract one action through another is useless because this will not uproot one’s desires. Thus even though one may superficially seem pious, he will undoubtedly be prone to act impiously. Therefore real atonement is enlightenment in perfect knowledge, Vedānta, by which one understands the Supreme Absolute Truth. PURPORT The guru, Śukadeva Gosvāmī, has examined Parīkṣit Mahārāja, and it appears that the King has passed one phase of the examination by rejecting the process of atonement because it involves fruitive activities. Now Śukadeva Gosvāmī is suggesting the platform of speculative knowledge. Progressing from karma-kāṇḍa to jñāna-kāṇḍa, he is proposing, prāyaścittaṁ vimarśanam: “Real atonement is full knowledge.” Vimarśana refers to the cultivation of speculative knowledge. In Bhagavad-gītā, karmīs, who are lacking in knowledge, are compared to asses. Kṛṣṇa says in Bhagavad-gītā (7.15): na māṁ duṣkṛtino mūḍhāḥ prapadyante narādhamāḥ māyayāpahṛta-jñānā āsuraṁ bhāvam āśritāḥ “Those miscreants who are grossly foolish, lowest among mankind, whose knowledge is stolen by illusion, and who partake of the atheistic nature of demons, do not surrender unto Me.” Thus karmīs who engage in sinful acts and who do not know the true objective of life are called mūḍhas, asses. Vimarśana, however, is also explained in Bhagavad-gītā (15.15), where Kṛṣṇa says, vedaiś ca sarvair aham eva vedyaḥ: the purpose of Vedic study is to understand the Supreme Personality of Godhead. If one studies Vedānta but merely advances somewhat in speculative knowledge and does not understand the Supreme Lord, one remains the same mūḍha. As stated in Bhagavad-gītā (7.19), one attains real knowledge when he understands Kṛṣṇa and surrenders unto Him (bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate). To become learned and free from material contamination, therefore, one should try to understand Kṛṣṇa, for thus one is immediately liberated from all pious and impious activities and their reactions.

Is mother earth considered cow suchandra (I am not sure of scripture)? We really need to get to the point of sacred as a human race. Mass exploitation of mother nature is showing now. Although we are spirit we are also brothers and sisters of mother nature....she will force us in due course by her wisdom to walk in gentleness (ahimsa). I do not think religious force is the way of God...that is evident by the fundamentalist vision and its violence. Its a counterfeit in my opinion and opposed to divine will of love and freedom of spirit. If we can awaken to a deeper sense of God consciousness, care for cow and care for our fellow beings will be natural and spontaneous. How to bring that expanded, developed, conscious awareness on a mass scale....is something the leaders need to contemplate and implement! Srila Prabhupada strongly suggested education needs to teach such things...he was a great pioneer and fine empowered acaraya. Time will prove that and his books will be the legacy. The violent leaders will choose force...the intelligent leaders may take a different course. Srila Prabhupada gave a perfect example. We surely need to tread gently upon our mother (both cow and earth)...and tread gently in our dealings one with another. Only a radical shift in conscious awareness will bring that shift about in each of us. Just some thoughts...still trying to find my way with my own violence (on a subtle level). Anyhow off to make offering...take care mate!

Hope must remain. All I know Suchandra, is that the diseased entity is in great need of a real spiritual encounter - to awaken and heal itself, and the environment. Maybe suffering will be the catalyst to begin the search for that 'real encounter'. Blessed are those great souls who awaken out of free will.

Nityananda! Gauranga! Hare Krsna! Below is a link to an exceptional book by Srila BA Paramadvaiti Swami. Many who come seeking spiritual life may have experience of suffering (according to the Gita). Suffering by nature can be a catalyst to full awakening and eventual God consciousness. Infact I am of the opinion that full God consciousness is the only 'pure disease free state' for the spirit soul. By the process of Naam kirtana the soul will eventually enter a clearing stage, where unwanted states of conditioning begin to fall away. For those who have had some deep psychological neurosis (deeply conditioned life), this clearing stage can possibly be most diffcult. At this stage of spiritual development in Naam bhajan, sadhu sangha is crucial. The sangha becomes the healing support network. Unfortunately many religious leaders may not be able to offer the necessary support, experience, or time, to the sadhaka in need. The variety of sadhakas and their individual needs, considering the conditions of disease (false ego), can be vast in this world. The below book is an invaluable work, for the devotee who needs such support, during the time of clearing of offences. And from it will glean knowledge of the process during the 'healing' stage. The potential of full actualization (self realization) for the soul is its actual destiny. I am of the opinion that in this 21st century we must utilize all means to assist the suffering soul to reach its full destiny - an eternal servant of the Summum Bonum (Sri Krsna).God consciousness. Some (advanced souls) living entities may encounter 'peak experiences' on their journey, others may encounter 'spiritual emergence crisis', and these encounters may be very personal realization of the nature of God while on the path. The compassionate nature of the vaisnava is to assist the seeker in his/her sincere search for harmony and peace. The need for harmony and peace is inherent in all souls, and must be supported. In time, faith and science will harmonize (in this golden age)....and the Holy Name will be the call for all souls. The message of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu will be spread in all its simplicity...without out demeaning all the healing modalities that are manifest in this world by a kind and merciful God. The realized soul will understand the mystery of God's grace in this regard - which is beyond the pitfall of sectarianism and other false religious delusion. We are in good standing under the guidance of Sri Guru, who gives the example of simple devotion (suddha-naam-bhakti). By appilication of good intelligence he gives us the freedom to serve in our own unique capacity. The book below is a wonderful compliment to the simplicity of Naam bhajan and its fruit, for those in need of healing during health crisis and search for freedom in Sri Krsna. Krsna consciousness is the compassionate gift of our disciplic succession. http://www.oidatherapy.org/download.htm#oida_manual y.s bija.

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click here for audio Shri Nama-Mahatmya: The Glories of the Holy Name Last and Final Song of Shrila Sacchidananda Bhaktivinoda Thakura's Sharanagati (1) krishna-nama dhare koto bal vishaya-vasananale, mora citta sada jwale, ravi-tapta maru-bhumi-sam karna-randhra-patha diya, hridi majhe praveshiya, varishoya sudha anupam 1) What power does the name of Krishna possess? My heart constantly burns in the fire of worldly desires, just like a desert scorched by the rays of the sun. The holy name, entering the core of my heart through the holes of my ears, showers unparalleled nectar upon my soul. (2) hridoya hoite bole, jihvara agrete cale, shabda-rupe nace anukshan kanthe mora bhange swara, anga kanpe thara thara, sthira hoite na pare caran 2) The holy name speaks from within my heart, moves onto the tip of my tongue, and constantly dances on it in the form of transcendental sound. My throat becomes choked up, my body shivers again and again, and my feet cannot remain still. (3) cakshe dhara, dehe gharma, pulakita saba carma, vivarna hoilo kalevara murchita hoilo man, pralayera agaman, bhave sarva-deha jara jara 3) Rivers of tears flow from my eyes, perspiration completely soaks my body, all my skin thrills with rapture, my hairs stand on end, and my complexion turns pale and discolored. My mind grows faint, I begin to experience devastation, and my entire body is shattered in a flood of ecstatic emotions. (4) kori' eto upadrava, citte varshe sudha-drava, more dare premera sagare kichu na bujhite dilo, more to' batula koilo, mora citta-vitta saba hare 4) While causing such an ecstatic disturbance, the holy name showers liquid nectar on my heart and drowns me in the ocean of divine love of Godhead. He does not allow me to understand anything, for He has made me truly mad by having stolen away my mind and all my resources. (5) loinu ashroya ja'r, heno vyavahara ta'r, varnite na pari e sakal krishna-nama iccha-moy, jahe jahe sukhé hoy, sei mora sukhera sambal 5) Such is the behavior of Him in whom I have taken shelter. I am not capable of describing all this. The holy name of Krishna is independent and thus acts on His own sweet will. In whatever way He becomes happy, that is also my way of happiness. (6) premera kalika nam, adbhuta rasera dham, heno bala karaye prakash éshat vikashi' punah, dekhay nija-rupa-guna, citta hari' loya krishna-pash 6) The holy name is the bud of the flower of divine love, and is the very abode of astonishing mellows. Such is the power He manifests that when His holy name starts to blossom a little further, it then reveals His own divine form and qualities. Thus my heart is abducted and taken directly to Krishna. (7) purna vikashita hoiya, braje more jaya loiya, dekhay more swarupa-vilas more siddha-deha diya, krishna-pashe rakhe giya, e dehera kore sarva-nash 7) Blossoming fully, the flower of the holy name takes me to Vraja and reveals to me His own love-dalliance. This name gives to me my own eternal spiritual body, keeps me right by Krishna's side, and completely destroys everything related to this mortal frame of mine. (8) krishna-nama-cintamani, akhila rasera khani, nitya-mukta shuddha-rasa-moy namera balai jata, saba lo'ye hoi hata, tabe mora sukhera udoy 8) The name of Krishna is a transcendental touchstone, a mine of all devotional mellows. It is eternally liberated, and the embodiment of pure rasa. When all impediments to the pure chanting of the holy name are taken away and destroyed, then my happiness will know its true awakening. Thus ends Sharanagati by Thakura Bhaktivinoda.

Good santana prabhu... I am realizing on this path of healing that surrender becomes very relevant (the more we awaken to the depth of conscious awareness). It is the way..... my friends who have kept drinking are beginning to suffer greatly missing that soul gift (of the human spirit soul). The vision does not develop it seems (that is what I have found with intoxicant abuse). This gift of consciousness and awareness of the environment is the greatest gift, and we can only pray that we all realize that. In fact all that we perceive outwardly is our healer and teacher...drawing us to love of God...on the way home... enjoy life (force)-krsna caitanya... my friend... http://www.oidatherapy.org/download.htm#oida_manual 'How to Advance in Spiritual Conciousness' posted by krsna dasa

I truly hope that you can purchase these and relish them....

http://www.oidatherapy.org/introduction.htm presented by Srila Paramadvaiti Swami. Perennial psychology from the Vedic viewpoint. Self healing and wholeness through deepening of faith. y.s.

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