beemasane

how do you get rid of all the fanatics? answer: give 'em all a light bulb.

any way to kinda hustle things up a little bit for "that" day to get here before the big black snake get sme?

absolutely fantastik i was going to ask about the atmarama verse today and here you did it WOW WOw WOW!

aaaaaaand heeeeere we go...you're real pistol. your honesty is a breath of fresh air, nothing worse than a phony huh? i am especially taken with your fierce loyalty to guru and gurun, an admirable quality. if within this forum i become overwhelmed by a superior opponent, may i call upon your obviously considerable talents? what i am about to say now is NOT to be misconstrued as a criticism, for as you have emphatically stated you cannot easily handle this. as a weary battle scarred veteran of many campaigns i offer this as a consideration: did you ever stop to think that when i praised you that i was naive enough to consider you anything more or less than you described yourself as...i didn't get the name beemasane for nothing...you as my nephew should should know this about me...right up front. lets fight the good fight, i think you will become invincible as you learn more about the art of war. all respects to all the Vaisnavas, even those we defeat.

please forgive me for taking a moment of your time here to apologize...i am very new to this computer sanga( i have never been on a chat forum before this ) and i really TREASURE all of your association so much... i am learning a lot from you all and i want to be friends. unfortunately i am not so expert with the buttons yet so please bear with me, i WILL get better. at least i can say i am trying to only say guru parampara things about trancedental things, not prajalpa.. please excuse my lame jokes to tarun...my last post in the" prove there is a soul" thread started by ram is a real hatchet job but it is right on straight sauce from Jaiva Dharma by Bhaktivinode Thakur. all glories to the expert Vaisnava cyberian Bhaktas and Bhaktins who are purifying these infernal contraptions from the kali yugites!

edit above reading ...They can realize only thru vedas which are manifested from the lords mouth.NOT "We have 4 imperfections which are manifested by lords mouth." please excuse my computer stuff , i really am a beginner, and i can get it right but i have to go so slow and i wanted tohurry and get this on the thread before it goes away, it seemed so appropriate because it came from a question someone asked if they can prove the existance of God...and i thought hmmm, this question is about his souls he creates.

1 dhirodatta: grave humble forgiving fixed in vow UNBOASTFUL extremely powerful thwarts pride of other heroes example Sri Rama 2 Dhira lalita expert in 64 arts also in amorous arts always fresh youth expert joker NO FEAR and controlled by preme of his beloveds examples are Krishna and kandarpa 3 dhira santa peaceful and tolerant of miseries JUDICIOUS AND HUMBLE example "my brother" your best of uncles, our dear expert javellin master, heroic YUDDISTHIRA KEEEE JAYA! and you have the 4th(dhirodDHata) already and remember prabhu if you are stronger than someone you dont fight them so hard...EVER..and be so kind and gentle to those people less than you and your guru will see this and give you all facility to be glorious for Krishna! all glories to the Hero Vaisnavas! Uncle beemaSANE here. Good Luck to you!

the self evident vedas which describe the existance of the vedas come down thru the disciplic chain by the mercy of sri hari as amnya vakya. reasoning that is based purely on logic is always crippled when evaluating inconceivable subjeact matters, since logic and argument have no asccessin the realm of the inconcievable. human beings cannot realise transcendental things thru their senses. they can realize only thru vedas. we have the four imperfections which are manifested by the lords mouth: illlusion error and cheating propensity and imperfect senses, but the Lord is beyond all these imp's, therefore the self evident vedas are original pure knowledge, always faultless , always dependable as evidence. Jaiva Dharma p.303 slightly paraphrsed with my error typing

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i've got a nice little morsel here from the Bhajan Rahasya by Bhaktivinode Thakur. Krishna nama svarupesu - tadiya cit kanesu ca - jneya budha ganair nityam - aparadhas catur vidham : offenses to the name, offences to the Lord, offenses to the devotees, offenses to the other living enteties, are the four kinds of offenses. so beemasane is is thinking if you MUST insist that you are outside the camp of Chaitanya's army of Vaisnavas (while i must wholly protest this self appointed whimsey of yours{tee-hee}) surely you must qualify as an "other living entity",as mentioned in the prayer above, thus providing you with a kind of a transcendental "get out of jail free card" you can present to me with great fanfare if i am ever offensive to you by not giving you my mercy(tee-hee)!

this is a follow up on how i assumed the name of beemasane. this is directed towards Abhithe great if he ever drops by again...i just want him to know i'm not so humble really. this comes from the Bhakti-rasamrita-sindhu-bindu by Srila Visvanatha Chakravarti Thakur: there are four kinds of heroes or Nyakas...the 4th ,Dhiroddhata One who is malicious, proud, decietful,angry,and boastful is known as a dhirodhata. Learned men have accepted Bhimasena as a dhiroddata nayaka...Although these characteristics appear to be faults, they are accepted as qualities of Krishna, because they are appropriate in specific pastimes, in which he chastises the wicked in order to protect his devotees...cool huh?

the proof is in the "pudding". any body here ever seen someone die right in front of you and see what was left over?...QED.

aren't these tasty little miracles a joy? when the Guru sees you doing so nicely he gives you these nice reciprocations..good for you... all glories to Gurudeva... hello from beemasane.

my dear avinash...i wanted to be JUNIOR MEMBER status again. i feel i am not qualified yet with siddhanta to be called MEMBER. i did not know that it was the number of posts that one makes. i hope i politely correct your misunderstanding. please accept my humble obeicanses.

all glories to the pandavas...actually i have made a mental note to seek you out here in cyberia...without even knowing you personally, i like YOUR spirit based on your writings, even without your co-incidentally same namesake you would reminding me of the undefeatable prowess of the wonderful son of Arjuna who only could be defeated by cheaters of the kshatric code of chivalry. i can just see you defeating not only all of the nirvesesa sunnyavadis with your expert siddhanta but nicely defeating even all Vaisnavas like me, who might not have such a soft heart, with sweet astra arrows of flowers just like Krishna does to the gopis. Prabhupada must be so proud of his fighter so aptly named abhi the great. i have been soundly reminded of an adjustment i have to make even tho' i am junior member to all of the qualified pandits here at Audarya Fellowship. all glories to all Vaisnavas!

oh i do not think you are a karmi dog, oh no, you can't fool an old ksatriya like me. even tho' i am at times fiercely loyal to my Guru(s)(i now will run almost every time i see imminent controversy boiling) i am very drawn to soft hearted devotees of any nice qualified lord because they are so unlike me and can help me even if outside my sampradaya. you will never know how good you made me feel when you responded about my father wearing tulasi...so i would feel embarrassed if i did not offer you full course of thank you, not leftover you do or don't do this or that or else. i will probably always be not so mellow but sometimes this can be very handy..so anyway this is the aspiring softie saying all glories to all Vaisnavas and all friends of the Vaisnavas too! beemaSANE.

yo. so far we have discussed what will henceforth be called the outside flap. don't think for a moment that a nice golden embossed buddhist-ey chakra will take the place of a picture of Lord Chaitanya imbued with all of the potency of an experienced senior devotee artist...even if it might be from a neighboring user friendly Rupanuga camp...don't get me wrong here, but you haven't lived until you've seen some of the absolutely sublime Lord Chaitanya's i have seen in His Grace Puri Maharaja's line(no official affiliation here, but remember my line: "all glories etc.") These are the crying type of Lord Chaitanyas that i just know would steal the heart from any sincere disciple of Jesus Christ...and rather than go on and on, what i am getting at here is not to sway you with any spiritual,and artistic sensibilities that i may (or may not) possess. what we're talkin' here Prabhu is good old market savvy..an analysis targeted at your 4 basic ashrams for your 4 card spread. this analysis is meant as a focus, complimented by your disciplic artisric purity and imbued with a powerful catchy slogan to completely confound and enchant the angst riddled psyche of even the most jaded of karmi dogs...oooooh, i can just see this card now..last point: not wallet size, i personally don't like the idea of the Lord or Srila Prabhupada encased in leather or being sat on! also, as i said before, if the cards are slightly larger than biz size, aformentioned lucky karmi dogs will do service by carrying them carefully for a while or having to treat them nicely because what we're talkin' here is Fine Art and i do mean FINE. please forgive me for any unintentional offenses and for taking up so much of your thread space and valuable time. this is beema-"art of the deal"-sane saying have your people call my people and we'll do prasad and... glorify all Vaisnavas.

sheesh, its like a freekin' er room here at the old greehaw...on the flip side tho' ironically, people are looking for ANY "surcease to their sorrows" too. personally i like the emblem route, ie chakra like stuff, tilak sign etc. and i'm not even above a little artistic "larceny", such as ripping off the impersonalists since they seem to be the vogue these Gere-ey days by applying a few Buddhist-ey brush strokes to the chakra for example...the hindoos seemed to fare pretty well with ol' akbar and the mugal style.as a side note i seem to remember that ol' akbar actually funded Ragunatha Goswami! these are a few ideas off the top of my head with no meditation and prayers to the Guru, which i will be doing to try to add to your thread, a head and a half is better than one in a gripe free braintrust. i am sorry if they may seem a bit materialistic or at best spiritually shallow...art work like every other thing has to be parampara-ed to be the most potent...until we meet again o' aryan brother of the quill...i remain poetically refrained but not restrained from wishing you and all those pesky Vaisnavas a grand sweeping pronouncement: roses are red Krishna is blue and i like you...sick call again for the beamerooo

re. art work. unfortunately in the land of nirvesea sunnyavadi and sky blue waters, artwork should be very carefully selected. as i keep an i eye out on the pulse of humanity, it sadly seems impersonalism is just as entrenched in the public psyche as ever, maybe more since 9/11. blotto seems to be the name of the game: booze'n'Buddhism both have risen in popularity as a plausible means of sticking you head in the sand..sick call again, i'll be back

hi-dee-ho notebook buddy, i too have kept notebooks for years...i do indeed find them, for myself these days, invaluable tools of sadhana...my name could easily be beemasane muni as i am almost always on the mental platform. and because i am always coming up with an alarming number of questions of an even more alarmingly obscure nature that has always driven my senior Godbrothers to distraction...it behooves me to sift thru' the detritus with great care... on the serious side tho', i have just a smidgeon of experience in this type of seva you are involved with..there is a certain validity to the old adage "when in rome, do as the romans do". a professional, toned down card that has elegance in simplicity without sacrificing the potency. also, rep.s of many great men of the past have been very successful with long term repetition of a succint yet potent rejoinder, ie. "i have a dream". and the art work should be selected very carefully so as to avoid the naivte of the Jehovah Witnesses which even children seem to scoff at...we could talk, perish the thought about about a reduction of the cartoonish nature of some of our art. i must add here that i am not trying to be offensive... to be honest i am very discriminating with art, yet actually PREFER some of the more cartoony art...it is veeeery sweet...but i have to beg off here for a few hours to attend to a little sick prabhu of mine...i will get back to you tho'. i actually am very keen on this sort of thing, all zaniness aside when i am presenting my Gurus message to the public at large. all beamed out for now but still a little flickering light left to see the sign ahead...Honor All Vaisnavas

i have just noticed that my "junior member" status has been upgraded to "member" status...there must be a glitch in the sisya-stem...i demand my junior rating back again...with all respects, i remain, unsurrendered, bummersane.

dear leyh, i am laughing good right now at a NON-mundane occurance...everytime i dial up Audarya your 2/17/02 thread pops up as the first image of Audarya, beginning with "i think that many apparently mundane incidents..." and ends in a discussion of KRODHA. i am not mellow. my motto used to be: "beemasane is the enemy of the karmi dog." i must admit there were many times my services have been needed, but these, days when i am reading a drop of the ocean of nectar of the Goswamis and see just how little siddhanta i know, i am just more inclined to give the old karmi dogs a sweetball, a kind pat on the head and a corner of my sleeping mat because, much to my amazement it seems that they too are servants of Krishna, and i also have done a little whoop-dee-doo and they have it over on me in the long run anyway, how doggie loyal am i to Guru and Gauranga? i feel that this is a VERY valuable thread because all too often we miss these little lessons that are far more important than they sometimes apparantly seem. i love hearing tales of fellow devotees life lessons..."i,ll be back"...in the meantime lets let sleeping karmi dogs lie for now and get real busy glorifying all those wonderful Vaisnavas..yep...mmm-hmmm!

his name is Peter Burwash. (the tennis player)

wooooooooooo now we're cookin' just THINK! you can go to a place where "where you can hang out with people who are actually controlling GOD in a playful mood, forever! with love ... whoa...who thinks up stuff like this anyway? i think i'd like to find out more about this, sounds like this might be one of those "win-win" situations...tra-la-la i'm off to see the Guru, the most wonderful Guru of alllll. al glories to each and every one of the very valuable Vaisnavas...

i am laying here on my back this morning and i cannot even move my head to the left without just about passing out...but you know when i chant japa i swing my head back and forth and i am simply laughing in spite of the pain at just how you are tested at every moment " even if you handle me roughly in your embrace...and i am also not caring about my pain because i have discovered a whole new realm of association and i am knowing that all of you are waaaaaaaay more advanced than you are letting on and you are trying to cheat me by not revealing more of the nectar...but one thing you are not counting on is that i am very tricky too and i am veeeeery greedy. (heh-heh) we were on the stage in hyderabad with Prabhupada(oh yeah, oh yeah,uh-huh, uh huh, uh-huh! oh YESSSSS i was!) in front of thousands of people and he stopped for a moment and PICKED his nose in front of those thousands of people and very gracefully held his arm out and flicked and simply resumed talking like without skipping a beat...this is beemasane rollin" on down (h)i-5 with a full load, come on back now good buddy, not over.