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  1. Originally posted by Avinash:

    You are being bilkul 100% correct Mr AtmaJi.

     

    You have used the word 'Mr' though Atma ji is a female.

     

     

    You are being 100% correct AvinashJi. I am the guilty. There is absolutely being no reason for me to be doing that. So why must we be trying to find REASON for the Hare Nama? It is being self effulgent

    I am meaning to say if nonsense can be without reason cannot the highest also not be needing the justifications for existence?

     

     


  2. Originally posted by jijaji:

    Some quotes from "On the Road"

    by Jack Kerouac..

     

    "....don't you know that God is Pooh Bear?"

     

     

    JijaJi I am not knowing who is this Kerouac fellow but I am thinking he must be wrong. I am being told that the highest a bear can becoming is Yogi.

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  3. Originally posted by Bhaktavasya:

    Sometimes more than one person will tune into the same program.

    Sometimes Lord is chatting with more than one person into the same time and later we are fighting as to what He said at that one time because he was saying different thing to each one of us as He is being the personal.

     

    [This message has been edited by Shashi (edited 05-02-2002).]


  4. Originally posted by Bhaktavasya:

    hmmm. Maybe we are on a same wave length after all!

     

     

    Are you maybe thinking you are the radio station wave length? If I am hearing something I think is sounding a little bit like the mayavadi song I can switch you off simply by calling out "MasterJi". Posted Image

     

     


  5. Originally posted by jijaji:

    The Kalamas of Kesaputta go to see the Buddha

    1. I heard thus. Once the Blessed One, while wandering in the Kosala country with a large community of bhikkhus, entered a town

    of the Kalama people called Kesaputta.

     

    2. Then the Kalamas who were inhabitants of Kesaputta went to where the Blessed One was. On arriving there some paid homage to

    him and sat down on one side; some exchanged greetings with him and after the ending of cordial memorable talk, sat down on one side; some saluted him raising their joined palms and sat down on one side; some announced their name and family and sat down on one side; some without speaking, sat down on one side.

    The Kalamas of Kesaputta ask for guidance from the Buddha

    3. The Kalamas who were inhabitants of Kesaputta sitting on one side said to the Blessed One: "There are some monks and brahmins, venerable sir, who visit Kesaputta. They expound and explain only

    their own doctrines; the doctrines of others they despise, revile, and pull to pieces. Some other monks and brahmins too, venerable sir, come to Kesaputta. They also expound and explain only their own doctrines; the doctrines of others they despise, revile, and pull to pieces. Venerable sir, there is doubt, there is

    uncertainty in us concerning them. Which of these reverend monks and brahmins spoke the truth and which falsehood?"

    The criterion for rejection

    4. "It is proper for you, Kalamas, to doubt, to be uncertain; uncertainty has arisen in you about what is doubtful. Come,

    Kalamas. Do not go upon what has been acquired by repeated hearing; nor upon tradition; nor upon rumor; nor upon what is in a scripture; nor upon surmise; nor upon an axiom; nor upon specious reasoning; nor upon a bias towards a notion that has been pondered over; nor upon another's seeming ability; nor upon the consideration, 'The monk is our teacher.' Kalamas, when you

    yourselves know: 'These things are bad; these things are blamable; these things are censured by the wise; undertaken and observed, these things lead to harm and ill,' abandon them.

     

     

    One must be relying on the inner conviction of one's own self and one's own intuition.

    The Buddha is having said so! Posted Image

     

     

     

    [This message has been edited by Shashi (edited 05-02-2002).]


  6. Originally posted by Jagat:

     

    There are a lot of dilettantes around, all worthy human beings no doubt, picking up a little bit here and a little bit there. This is like going to University and taking nothing but electives.

     

     

    Ohh JagatJi is not the going to the Univarsity an elective in itself or is it being compulsory in your country?

     

     

     

    [This message has been edited by Shashi (edited 05-01-2002).]


  7. Originally posted by jijaji:

    The Baul is not in any way controlled and disciplined. Bauls knows no rituals. They are against rituals because....

    "A ritualized person is a dead person."

    He cannot be spontaneous.

     

     

    Jijaji I am wandering is not the avoidance of the rituals itself a discipline also?

     

     


  8. Originally posted by theist:

    Any vegan bhaktas out there?Or even 99% like me.

    TheistJi I am not being the bhakta but I am 100% with you on this one issue. I am not being the veganism either as I am taking the honeys and am having the leather on the mirdanga and the woolen clothing for the wintery times.

    I am thinking that the cows must be the worshipable creatures in their own rights and not simply being so for the utilitaRanism purpoise for the supply of foodstuffs. I am not agreeing with the other one who is saying humanities must have the animal fats somehow. Even the modern western nutrition jnanis are not saying same.

     

    Thanking you for the concern for MataJi.

     

    [This message has been edited by Shashi (edited 05-01-2002).]


  9. Originally posted by atma:

    I still think that Harer Nama is the answer. I like the easy way and who doesn't like music and dancing?

    With so much fighting going on in the world, everybody afraid of war we can present a united front chanting the holy name of the Lord, the peace formula that Srila Prabhupada gave to us is what the world need.

    Because sounds simple it doesn't mean it is less important. Are you chanting prabhuji?

    You are being bilkul 100% correct Mr AtmaJi.

     


  10. Originally posted by Bhaktavasya:

    Sorry, Shashi. I don't think we're on the same wave length. I'm not trying to reach an object, just engage in some light bantering and theosophical speculation mostly on what the sound of Krishna's voice is like. And the last thing I want to do is argue or defend myself from accusations of Mayavadism. As Jijaji is fond of saying; 'Lighten Up!'

     

     

    I am thinking you are being right we are not on one wave. Your idea of the light in the light banter must be having the narrower spectrums than the spectrums of my light in my idea of the light banter.

    It is yourself who is become the heavy and you are telling the others to be lightening up?

     

     


  11. Originally posted by Bhaktavasya:

    All pervasive separation later; first can we go back to your original premise that no-one would believe it, if Krishna spoke in my ear, and my reply that it wouldn't make any difference to me. Each person's mystical communion with God is unique and oh so personal, don't you agree? Someone believing or disbelieving another's testimonial doesn't validate or invalidate it.

    MasterJi i was never saying that the disbelifs would be invalidating you but only that it would be putting you in the sadness. I am thinking when Lord comes to us the Grace is suchlike that there is arising somewhat the compassion for the others and the spirit desire to share with them. but the people are such they must demand your authority in minus of which they reject you. Your meeting with Lord is still valid as will be the sadness.

     

    Originally posted by Bhaktavasya:

    As for eternal separation, no way am I in favor of that!

     

    Masterji you are having yourself said that Lord is all pervading so it must be that the pervading is eternal. The devottee of Lord is always being connected with Lord despite the different situations. Always in connection with the Lord in a pond the devottee is wet and in the desert sand the devotte is dry. Suchlike in the separation the devottee is being sad and in the meeting various things are happening also.

    Therefore why are concerning yourself fearfully with the prospective of the separation? Lord is pervading that also.

     

     

    Originally posted by Bhaktavasya:

    Aloneness helps to grow the spirit body, so we aren't needy desperate and too clingy when that day comes and the meeting is a reality.

     

     

    This is sounding like the mayavadi positions which is viewing the different bhakti sitautions as the procedure. Like the mayavadis are telling that we only will worship Lord until we are reaching the brhamajyoti and then we must dispense with Lord. So you are telling that alone must be dispense when object is reached.

    Are you knot knowing that the One Supreme is sbeing supremely alone and as the sparks from Lord we too are alone?

     

     

     


  12. Originally posted by Bhaktavasya:

    If in my imagination Krishna is whispering sweet somethings into my ear, then why should I care if no-one knows or believes that I could be so fortunate.

    It is being said that Lord's Grace is filling us so completely that our selfishness is being drownded and so the Grace is then impelling us to to selflessly share. If nobody believes you you will be in rejection by them and unabled from sharing.

    Such will be your fortune.

     

     

     

     

    Originally posted by Bhaktavasya:

    ---- separation is only an illusion because He is all-pervading.

     

    MataJi then He must be pervading the separation also and therefore this is making the separation the reality also.

     

     

     

    [This message has been edited by Shashi (edited 04-30-2002).]


  13. Originally posted by Bhaktavasya:

    I would ask Him to say something in my ear, anything, just to hear what His voice sounds like. I imagine He would start talking about Radharani or how much He loves His devotees, or not to worry about anything. He would understand my innermost desires, and allow me to massage His feet, or pretend He has a sore neck so I can lift His hair and give Him a neck-rub. Then He would be gone, maybe never to be visible again in this one lifetime and every time I looked at my hands (which would be quite often) I'd always remember those soft, reddish feet, the markings etched in my brain, and His beautiful contoured neck and relive the experience over and over again.

    I am thinking that he may be gently suggestion to you to come with him upstream tugging at your heart which is his way but I am thinking you will be in so much of the shock at his presents that you will not toke the suggestion.

    When he is gone you will be cursing yourself for the clumsy response and after that nobody will ever be believing that you saw him and this will make you more the lonely than ever before you saw him.

    You might be then spending your days listening to the trickling streams and judging the concert parformances as being the banal because their toning is not being anything like the voice you were hearing when you saw him.

    Mataji I am feeling very sad for you.

     


  14. Originally posted by Jagat:

    Krishna would not understand about all those fallen people. He would probably twirl his peacock feather, roll his eyes and look bored. Then he would give a couple of chews to his tambul and say, "Go talk it over with Vishnu." Or he give Radharani a look and say something to make her laugh.

     

     

    You are having such a pompous view of Lord. I am being told that even the ar5rogant scoolars are vainly trying for His attention. These very same scoolars are not thinking themselves fallen. One day He will be looking at same. Wiil He be looking upward?

     

     


  15. Originally posted by Bhaktavasya:

    If you could sit and stroll casually and have a chat with Krishna, which we are apparently supposed to be able to do or will have the opportunity to do in the future, what would you envision as a satisfactory scenerio? This question is based on the premise that Krishna is the best Friend of the bhaktas and really does want to please and satisfy the bhaktas more than they could ever imagine. Would you want to ask Him for a blessing, for answers to the current world problems, or to just be in His presence? The lively or silent or other situations would be unique for each person.

    I would be chatting with Him about all the so called fallen devotees who are now some of them on the drugs and suchlikes, many adultrous relations and some being into blasphemies and so on. I would be kindly telling that they are still great devotees but only that they were being desparate for His personal attention and when they could not be bearing the separatness from Him any more longer that is when they are taking up their bad habits in last efforts to attract His attention by their courageful mischif. I would be kindly explaining that the love spurned does the strange effects on people.

     

     

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