Shashi

Originally posted by Jagat:

By the way, I have a beadbag problem. I have big size beads, but my beadbag is a bit small. This means the beads keep falling out. Can anybody help me out?

According to wisdoms stated in this thread you must be having such big personality not containable within the situations of your currant existance.

Originally posted by Jagat:

By the way, I have a beadbag problem. I have big size beads, but my beadbag is a bit small. This means the beads keep falling out. Can anybody help me out?

According to wisdoms stated in this thread you must be having such big personality not containable within the situations of your currant existance.

Other than the milk thistle, the globe artichoke which is also being somewhat thistle like plant is excellence for liver renaisance.

You may be trying to eat two or three per diem of these flowers steamed.

Also if you are not able to tolerate the oils well for the essaential fatty acids, please be trying apprpriate dozes of the spirulina and the bali greens powder.

Most importantly, please be accepting my warm well wishes!!

Originally posted by gHari:

And if it is my desire to be always a blade of grass to cushion one of the falls of Lord Caitanya - what then is the use of this silly moving bag of bones. How will I learn to turn the sunlight into green? Where next will my Lord fall?

Parbhuji, I am thinking your Lord has fallen on your tongue.

Originally posted by Bhaktavasya:

 

What if my external body is female and my guru has revealed my form as a gopa? Is there a form I can fill out to order my desired dress and turban decorations?

 

No needing for the request.Your internal form is being already in order.Always dressed.

Originally posted by raga:

Do you know why Lord Brahma has four arms? No, it's not because he's embracing someone. He has a lot of brainwork to do with his four heads, and he needs four hands to be able to scratch them all simultaneously when he's creating the universe again. Would you agree, Shiva?

Are you being morning or evening raga?

Originally posted by theist:

I like the focus on hearing guru everywhere.Although I am troubled at what I perceive as a dissolution of the relationship with the individual person that brought one to the dance.

I also.

Originally posted by raga:

Shiva, are you advanced or neophyte?

I am always wondering why the neophytes are asking the questions, the answers to which they are having the little chances of understanding.

Originally posted by sha:

Fun is in finding!

Let us see how many devotees are familiar with this famous verse including the research scholors.

I am thinking that Blessed Self would have being familiar with same but is not being here at these forum.

Originally posted by paul108:

Almost a year ago I hosted several devotees and their guru at my house for a home program. The guru insulted both my wife and I by commenting that a person who is not initiated should not cook for the Lord (we worship Gaura-Nitai and Jagannatha, Baladev, and Subhadra Deities in our home) and told his disciples that he would also chant mantras to offer the bhoga to Their Lordships along with me, implying that They would not accept the offering if it was just me doing the offering.

Do not be sad PaulJi. Just think Lordships got DOUBLE offerings that day. All in your own home!

Haribol!

Originally posted by Jagat:

For woman following sati-vrata,you understanding importance of marriage, I am thinking.Like bumblebee going woman flowertoflower not good thinking me. Like that.

Same thing like going one guru to another all the times all while Guru is at home starving or at the doors needing cloth or care. Lord is also waiting for scholars in the deepside of their humble ignorances.

Be the humble bee not the bumble bee JagatJi!

Originally posted by Jagat:

If I were Rebecca, Peter, Gary, George or Don, I would ---------

First try being yourself.It will be hurting little bit at first but will be hurting everyones less at the end.

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Originally posted by jndas:

Sri Chaitanya, whom most of us claim to follow, Himself did not give mantra diksha to any disciples. Yet He did have disciples. But most here will probably prefer to ignore this point as it strengthens the concept of a siksha parampara as opposed to a ritual parampara. As to whether divya-jnanam (transcendental knoweldge) actually means a ritual initiation with a mantra, thats left for people with common sense to decide. From the practical history, we see Arjuna did not receive a ritual mantra initiation, yet he became the shishya of Krishna simply by complete surrender (shishyas te 'ham shadhi mama tvam prapannam.

 

If we do prapatti to the guru, we become his disciple, it is that simple. When the guru accepts our surrender that is initiation, and his mere blessings plant the seed of transcendental knowledge (divya jnanam) in our heart.

 

Others may give more value to the metric distance between the guru and the disciple when he whispers in the ear of the shishya, but it is not the case in the scriptures or traditions.

 

Ramanuja received spontaneous initiation from Yamunacharya without having even spoken to him, after his guru had left his body. There was no chance for an external ritual, nor was there any need. Mantra diksha is distinct from this, as Ramanuja later received mantra diksha from Periya Nambi. Divya-jnanam is absolutely distinct from mantra diksha, though the mantra is sometimes given to the shishya to awaken the covered divya-jnanam (through sadhana).

 

The histories are full of stories of disciples who simply received the karuna of the guru, with out any formal mantra diksha.

 

Personalities such as Parikshit received divya-jnanam simply by hearing Srimad Bhagavatam. there was no need for an external ritual or for mantra diksha.

 

One may argue that in Chaitanya's line, Chaitanya has given stress to the ritual, but it is not true, for He Himself never gave mantra diksha.

My panditJi who is being helping me to be finetuning my sayings for this forums as per translatery of philosophical meanings but not for day to day chatters is saying I may be expressing my reply to J N DasJi as such:-

<u>FAULTLESS ELUCIDATION !</U>

Originally posted by Bhaktavasya:

Initiation day for me was like being 'officially' married in my soul to Krishna. My diksha guru was the one who joined us together for better or worse never do we part. Of course common law marriages are considered just as valid these days.

There are being many deep meanings therewith.

BhaktavasyaJi you are banging the nail rite on the head.

Originally posted by jndas:

Everyone is free to have their own opinion. I may not agree with it, but that's not so relevant.

 

What I found amusing was the statement about learning from the "authorized disciplic succession". Except of course if it is a direct statement from Srila Prabhupada, who is just a recent teacher (refer "instead of plucking out references from the letters of a recent teacher...")

 

As far as Raga's multitude of quotes from Srila Prabhupada, yes, they tell us to approach a spiritual master, but do not say anything about undergoing an external ritual. Initiation is much more than the ritual.

 

I have nothing against rituals and initiations, but just for discussion I am making these points.

 

Now whether Mr. XYZ is "initiated" or not, and whether he was initiated in 1976 or 1975 really is meaningless. We should be able to address his statements directly and, if he is completely crazy, show the fallacies of his statements. The, "who is your guru" argument is really a childish answer, one that certainly won't carry any value outside of ritualist circles.

 

What is an initiation ritual and what is its weight? Just by having been initiated ritually, does that make us disciples of Swami ABC? Hypothetically, what if we change our minds later? Does the ritual override our state of mind? Or is it our conscious surrender to the guru that makes us disciples?

BILKUL 100% DasJi !!!

Shoossh ! Avinash Bubbee !

Behave yourself or I wiil be telling your auntyJi in Ahmedabad.

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This one I am not getting.

Originally posted by sha:

Maitreya

MaitreyaJi?

Originally posted by theist:

No. Mudha.

Why are you having spelt "Madhu" wrongly as "Mudha"?

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Originally posted by jndas:

Everything sent to our Los Angeles address gets sent to our ashram here. The only difference is it is tax deductable in U.S., and we will maintain separate accounts for it to report to the IRS. Personally I feel safer with things being sent there, as there is no doubt about the postal system.

 

 

OKAY. Thank you.

Whatever is being safer. US it is then!

Originally posted by JRdd:

 

I am heartened by the fact that the program is building up and planning to someday do this on a daily basis.

 

 

Haribol Jayaradhe Didi!!!

So you are well enough to be considering for the others with love and compassions?

This is being called perfect health.

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Originally posted by jndas:

India has foreign currency regulations. If people specifically make special checks payable in Rupees, we can cash them within India. If they make the checks out to their local currency, we cannot. To make such checks costs a lot of money in the U.S. and other countries (maybe $30), so unless they are large donations, it doesnt make sense.

 

If anyone is within India, they can donate by sending it directly to our Ashram in Orissa.

 

 

We are not having such problems in Australia. As one bank customer all charges whether local or foreign denominations for the international draft are being costing us only 12dollars.

So is it being alrite in some future times if we are sending draft check in rupees to this adrress:

Bhaktivedanta Ashram,

c/o Kamala Kanta Sahu

At - Kuansh,

P.O. - Bhadrak,

District - Bhadrak

Pin - 756 100

Orissa

?

JN DasJi

This are being some good pictures also the picture of you? is surprising me as I am thinking you will not be doing the hands on but more the administrations. That is nice to.

So how can anybody be making the IRREGULAR donations by the mail and not credit card.

Wiil you send receipt for donors satisfaction that moneys reached safely?

Also my husband is asking if donations are being tax exempt for Australia?

Originally posted by Jagat:

It's time for me to butter you up, Shashi.

Aw Ghee thanks!

Originally posted by Rati:

So what's your point?

 

 

On one hand you are demanding the improvements in speaking English BUT on the other you are saying "irregardless" which is being with double negative. The "ir" is being redumbent as it is being meaning the same as the "less".

Rati indeed!

Originally posted by Shashi:

"It never rains, but it pours."

 

 

That is being given in the Concise Oxford Dictionary of Current English to be illustrating one of the valid and variety uses of BUT.

JagatJi, you may please be contacting them directly and making your argumentations with their Board of professors?

I am being so sure they will be most welcoming the English speaking expert with the Indian names.

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