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  1. Originally posted by krishnas:

     

    But they cannot both be the correct conclusion of the Vedas, since these philosophies are mutually incompatible. Many Vaishnava conclusions rest on rejecting contradictory conclusions of other schools such as Advaita. This isn't unreasonable. Even science requires that we reject incorrect hypotheses to get at the correct one.

     

     

    The elephant tusk is hard and sharp, the elephant ear is soft and the flopsy. Both are correct experience of elephant but both are the incomplete. Though incomplete, still true. Elephant tusk not cancel out elephant ear.


  2. Originally posted by jndas:

    In all cases the last 'a' is supposed to be pronounced when one is using sanskrit words.

     

    In Hindi many of the same words are also present, but without the final 'a'.

     

    Generally we are not refering to Hindi words, so we should not follow related conventions.

    This is right. But become beware that in the Sanskirtic pronounction of Rama the last "a' is not being the same as first "a". It is being shorter and first "a" is being longer. Prpoerly transcripted with dash above the 'a".

     

    One should also be knowing that sylabol with long vowl is getting more stress force when said than the other sylabols.

     

    Also I am hearing my PunditJi pronouciating Vedas and the last "a" is not said when end of recitation. Like if the group of mantras is end with "vidhema" the last of mantras will finish as "vidhem" with uttan or the upward sound for "m".

     

     


  3. Originally posted by krishnas:

    I'm just glad that this wasn't Srila Prabhupada's standard. How unfortunate that many of his followers have sunk to this.

     

     

     

    This is being Srila PrabhupadJi's STANDARD:-

     

    Originally posted by atma:

    Srila Prabhupada on Lord Jesus:

    "The Srimad Bhagavatam states that any bonafide preacher of God consciousness must have the qualities of titiksa (tolerance) and karuna (compassion). In the character of Lord Jesus Christ we find both these qualities. He was so tolerant that even while he was being crucified, he didn't condemn anyone. And he was so compassionate that he prayed to God to forgive the very persons who were trying to kill him. (of course, they could not actually kill him. But they were thinking that he could be killed, so they were commiting a great offense.). As Christ was being crucified he prayed "Father, forgive them. They know not what they are doing.".....

    A Vaisnava is unhappy to see the suffering of others. Therefore, Lord Jesus Christ agreed to be crucified - to free others from their suffering...

    Jesus Christ was such a great personality -the son of God, the representative of God. He had no fault. Still, he was crucified. He wanted to deliver God consciousness, but in return they crucified him - they were so thankless. They could not appreciate his preaching. But we appreciate him and give him all honor as the representative of God.

    Of course, the message that Christ preached was just according to his particular time, place and country, and just suited for a particular group of people. But certaintly he is the representative of God. Therefore we adore Lord Jesus Christ and offer our obeisances to him.

    Once, in Melbourne, a group of Christian ministers came to visit me. They asked,"What is your idea of Jesus Christ?". I told them, "He is our guru, he is preaching God consciousness, so he is our spiritual master." The ministers very much appreciated that.

    Actually, anyone who is preaching God's glories must be accepted as a guru. Jesus Christ in one such great personality. We should not think of him as an ordinary human being. The scriptures say that anyone who considers the spiritual master to be an ordinary man has a hellish mentality. If Jesus Christ were an ordinary man, then he could not have delivered God consciousness.'

     

     


  4. Originally posted by atma:

    Srila Prabhupada on Lord Jesus:

     

    "The Srimad Bhagavatam states that any bonafide preacher of God consciousness must have the qualities of titiksa (tolerance) and karuna (compassion). In the character of Lord Jesus Christ we find both these qualities. He was so tolerant that even while he was being crucified, he didn't condemn anyone. And he was so compassionate that he prayed to God to forgive the very persons who were trying to kill him. (of course, they could not actually kill him. But they were thinking that he could be killed, so they were commiting a great offense.). As Christ was being crucified he prayed "Father, forgive them. They know not what they are doing.".....

    A Vaisnava is unhappy to see the suffering of others. Therefore, Lord Jesus Christ agreed to be crucified - to free others from their suffering...

    Jesus Christ was such a great personality -the son of God, the representative of God. He had no fault. Still, he was crucified. He wanted to deliver God consciousness, but in return they crucified him - they were so thankless. They could not appreciate his preaching. But we appreciate him and give him all honor as the representative of God.

    Of course, the message that Christ preached was just according to his particular time, place and country, and just suited for a particular group of people. But certaintly he is the representative of God. Therefore we adore Lord Jesus Christ and offer our obeisances to him.

    Once, in Melbourne, a group of Christian ministers came to visit me. They asked,"What is your idea of Jesus Christ?". I told them, "He is our guru, he is preaching God consciousness, so he is our spiritual master." The ministers very much appreciated that.

    Actually, anyone who is preaching God's glories must be accepted as a guru. Jesus Christ in one such great personality. We should not think of him as an ordinary human being. The scriptures say that anyone who considers the spiritual master to be an ordinary man has a hellish mentality. If Jesus Christ were an ordinary man, then he could not have delivered God consciousness.'

    This is good beginnings for the page 2 in discussions. Thank you too much AtmaJi. Cryings.

     

     


  5. Originally posted by karthik_v:

    Did you note in that quote from Exodus 21:28-32, Jesus assigning a value of 30 shekels to the life of a slave?

     

     

     

    Karthik uyou are very embarassing me as you have one indian names also.

    You are showing nothing.

    Jesus is not being found in Exodus which is being the ages before Jesus. For Jesus you must be looking Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.

     

    You must now be apologizing.


  6. Originally posted by karthik_v:

    What we call the Bible today has conflicting versions of the same incident, within the same book. For example, the versions of Matthew, John, Mark etc., contradict each other even on critical events like his crucification. So, why should I take the miracles described above seriously?

     

    All are mentioning the crucifying. Versions may be differ but theme is same same. Like different versions about Lord Chaitanya. Are you rejecting Lord's Lila simply because different versions. Core is same same.

     

    Like many peoples seeing one elephant from the different angles each. Versions will be differing. YOur thinking is that if many versions therefore you will not take elephant seriously. Posted Image This is being miraclous logic!!!

     

     


  7. Originally posted by karthik_v:

    I must thank you for presenting that interpretation of Jesus's crying during crucification. It doesn't sound out of place for sure. Yet, my recent readings [which have been only a few months] on Christianity suggest that they assigned only literal meanings - nothing more.

    The literal meaning is being the direct meaning. Lord Jesus is literally feeling separations like Lord Chaitanya is literally feeling same. Are you have some problem with the separation being as spiritual reality? Mayavadis having same problem.

     

     


  8. If you are liking Lord Jesus, please be praying to MIRIAM Mater for the nine days while avoiding the womens.

     

    Taking only the flat breads, grape juices and little parsley with little bit curds for nine dyas pray to Mater offering her the blue flowers. Wear the brown colours.

     

    Best locations: the desolate chappel in the Rockie Mounts.

     

    Please be leaving astrology to the stars. They can afford same.

     

     

    [This message has been edited by Shashi (edited 07-11-2002).]


  9. Originally posted by radharani:

    I'm sorry, I didnt mean to offend anyone. I just have a much more casual type of relationship with Krsna.

    If the relationship is being casual, why mention?

     

    Even topmost eternal relationships is the unmentionable. Radhika is too quite about same with her family. Secret devotions.

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  10. Originally posted by radharani:

    i'm not 100% sure, but i think i saw on little house on the prairie the other day, that the sign language for eternity, or forever, is the same as what one of krsna's hands/arms does in a lot of his pictures. this was new info. to me. had anyone else heard of this before?

    Where is the liitle house please?

     

     


  11. My meanings is that if intuition is leading to Lord it will be verified as the real. But when intuitions is leading to the other points and the conclusions not related to Lord there will be always some doubting about that intuitions.

    If we are focus on Lord our intuitions will be finding their fulfillments.

    Think you not Avinash Ji?


  12. JRdd's story is show us that Lord's pain beckons the new way of loving devotions. Without headache who could have thought that putting foot dust on Lords head would be the devotion?

    Like this also the pains in our life. They are Lords blessing to beckon us to the new ways of devotion.

    Same same Jesus on the Cross. What pain and what new forms of compassion followed same.

    Are you getting me Cow Ji?


  13. Originally posted by Avinash:

    The word theist is not his name but his username. A username can start with lowercase letter which is the case with the username that theist ji has chosen for himself.

    Yes you are being quite right.

    My intuition told me not to crtisize you but I was ignoring same. What a shame!

     

     


  14. Originally posted by Avinash:

    Why has theist ji decided to become a cow? Posted Image

    AvinashJi, why you not making the capital T for ThesitJi? Posted Image

    Nobody decided he become the cow. We had the group intuitions that is his eternal ID. Such was our agreement.

    If we are wrong it is ahrmless jokings. On the subject of jokings are anyone aware how much intuition is being involved in getting the joke? We are all seem to be discuss intuition in light of high wisdom, but what about the laughings?

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  15. Originally posted by Yashoda_dd:

    I heard a story in Vrindavan in one class - Srimati Radhika was asked by Sri Krishna to write a letter to Him - about Her feeling of love. She spent all night with pen and paper, but all what she wrote was some marks with no sense (she was crying, her heart full of love, but could not put any words in written form).

     

    So, she gave to Krishna what she made. He was happy, happy, happy - her tears were seen. No need for anything else.

     

     

    This is beautiful.I am cry too.

    There is the dried ink of the written but the tears of the smitten are never drying. Always making moist Lord's heart.

    Thank you Yashoda dd.

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