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  1. This Muslim Guy quote me on the Vedas and upanisads. Any answers on these: Holy Gita 12.3-4)......This Is God without attributes. The Unseen God." So you see, you cannot see God no matter what... no buts and ifs. I'm sure you are sincerely defending your faith while at the same time acquiring knowledge of Islam (I hope)... and its up to yiou to realize those words you said. I will further add these verses as well, and I'm sure you'll agree with me on them: "There is no likeness of Him." [svetasvatara Upanishad 4:19] "His form is not to be seen; no one sees Him with the eye." [svetasvatara Upanishad 4:20] "There is no image of Him." [Yajurveda 32:3] "He is bodyless and pure." [Yajurveda 40:8] Quote: ""Those who Fix their minds on My personl form(Krishna) and are always engaged in worshipping Me with great transcendental faith are considered by Me to be most perfect. (Holy Gita 12-2) " - Its already been agreed that God is beyond the perception of the senses. What people have added hence caused corruption in the scripture. the Quran is being protected by our Master, Our Creator and hence is being preserved word for word. Now, m question to you is: How are you always engaged in worshipping God? Any answers will be most grateful thanks.
  2. This Muslim Guy asked me these questions: Maccoy, answer this one, simple question. You claim that Hindus do not worship many gods, but just the one supreme God. Why would the supreme God then mainfest himself in human form? Would this not have the effect of allowing any human to claim that he was God, or for any human to worship another human as God? And that would then corrupt the belief that there is only one supreme God? Whereas in Islam, we believe that God will never appear in ANY visible form on earth, as this would open the gates for people to start worshipping the created rather than the creator. The proof is in Hinduism itself; as you said, many Hindus worship beings other than the supreme God. Would this confusion have occured if your supreme God had not manifested himself in the likeness of a man, a creation of His?
  3. Immediately seek refuge under the Lotous Feet of Lord Shri Krishna. The Superme Personality of Godhead. Your life will be peaceful.
  4. Maccoy wrote: The Bhagavad Gita is Also Uncorrupted Thanks to the Krishna sanction Disciple Succession. Starting from Brahma to Sirla Prabhupada. Hi Maccoy, Where are the originals? Can common people see them? And how can you prove they are the originals? What is the date of their origin? Munawar Any reply for this??
  5. Where is the Hellish Planets?? Where is Brahmaloka and Shivaloka? Where is the Ultimate Destination KrsnaLoka(Vrndavanam). Where is Vikduntha?? Sorry for the wrong spelling. From what i know. There are Thousands Of Universe in a Shape of a BUBBLE. And Maha-Vishnu Lying Inhales and Exhales. Thus moving the bubbles around. On each Bubble(Universe) Theres Lakshmi,Narayana with Brahma at the Top. Correct?? Than where are the Krnsaloka or BrahmaLoka???
  6. Allah throne is on a water and i've said take a look at Lord Vishnu the Superme also has his throne on the water. This is what he replied: The supreme God of Hinduism? Why is he the supreme god in your religion? There is only one God, and we are told to acknowledge only one God -- Allah (SWT). But, for curiosity's sake, where does it say that Vishnu's throne was over the water? And how old are these documents? I was reading about Hinduism online, and a lot of scholars (if not all) believe that Hinduism was originally monotheistic, but then evolved into a polytheistic faith. But what was very interesting was that people discovered that Muhammad (p) was prophesied in the Hindu scriptures. They even described Medinah to be his city, the meaning of his name, the teachings he will come with, the finality of his Prophethood, etc. I was REALLY amazed when I read that.
  7. """Srila Prabhupada has stated in the Bhagavatam, the moon planet is farther away from the sun.""" How can the moon be further away??? when its scientificly proven that moon is the nearest planet to us. A robot have already landed on Mars which is further than Moon, So man have landed on the moon. Photos are taken.
  8. The question i asked were answered: Islam isn't corrupted. The proof is simple, the Quran and the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad from 600AD are still intact, unchanged. We have a Science on chains of transmission and the validity of books. This is the proof of Islam. No other religion can provide proof even close to this. Most religions are forced to rely on double speak, mysticism, blind faith and deep analysis of their texts to show their proofs. In Islam, our proofs are simple. Here is the original Quran, here are the original saysing of the Prophet, hereis the scientific reasoning on how we establish correct Hadith. Done. We know that all religions are not accepted because it says so in the Quran. Here's a question for you: How can you follow a religion based on origins unknown. You don't have the original scripture anymore. Who knows what changes were added in copies? The Quran is a miracle on its own. The challenge is simple, if you can create one verse like it, then you know it to be false. Christians, Jews and others have tried, but no one has other come close. The fact that the Quran is uncorrupt after 1400 years, even though the primary method of transmission was oral! Meaning the Quran was taught without the book form. Yes, what was memorized over generations is still exact to the original Qurans. Here's a simpler proof. The Quran speaks of ideas/concepts that were unknown at the time of revelation. Here is a verse that speaks of a growing fetus, and explaining the stages of growth in order. We didn't know this till the 16th century: "We created man from a quintessence (of clay); Then We placed him as (a drop of) sperm in a place of rest, firmly fixed; Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (fetus) lump; then We made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then We developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, the noblest of Creators!? (Al-Mumenoon, 12-14)
  9. This is what the Muslim Question me: Here's a simple test. Can your prove that your scripture is from God? What is the source of its origin? Can you show miracles from your book? The Quran can do all of the above, and thus we know this is From God. Munawar Can anybody give their opinions.
  10. Here is a Muslim rebuttle on my questions. I'm Maccoy and this Musilm is answering my questions, anybody with a opinion on these answers Maccoy wrote: But if you?re born in an atheistic or unenlightened family?well, tough luck. It leaves no sensible way to explain why people (or, for that matter, any living beings) are born in different circumstances. Hello Maccoy, Different circumstances means different tests in Islam. The poor are tested with poverty, and they must raise themselves to stand over their rage. The rich are tested with oppulence and arrogance, and they must humble themselves due to it. EVeryone is tested and measured based on what they were given. For those born in Non-Muslim houses, it is the duty of the Muslims to teach them about Islam. It is why there are websites like this one. Maccoy wrote: I kindly need a explantion on these verses: 2:191 kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from wherever they drove you out Verses like the one you quoted are used by anti-Muslim websites to defame Islam. Is it not true I can pull many verses from the Bible that speak of raping women and killing animals? We need to keep things in context. For example, the verse you noted above is only the partial verse. Here is the full verse: "Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors. And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith. But if they cease, Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful." Does this verse really seem like an open clause to kill everyone? It plainly states to only fight those that fight you (in this case those that "suppress faith"), and it tells the Muslims no to transgress limits. That seems like a very fair way to wage war. Maccoy wrote: 9:123 Oh ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers and let them find harshness in you. I'm not sure where you got that translation from, but here is Yusuf Ali's translation: 9.123. O ye who believe! fight the unbelievers who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you: and know that Allah is with those who fear Him. Maccoy wrote: 9:5 Slay the idolaters wherever you find them Maccoy, the verse you quote is regarding Pagans that broke a treaty with the Muslims. The rules of engagement were spelled out for this event (Quran 9:3-6) "9.3. And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage,- that Allah and His Messenger dissolve (treaty) obligations with the Pagans. If then, ye repent, it were best for you; but if ye turn away, know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah. And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject Faith. 9.4. (But the treaties are) not dissolved with those Pagans with whom ye have entered into alliance and who have not subsequently failed you in aught, nor aided any one against you. So fulfil your engagements with them to the end of their term: for Allah loveth the righteous. 9.5. But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. 9.6. If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah. and then escort him to where he can be secure. That is because they are men without knowledge. " Again, you'll notice that the methods of war demand that Muslims be just in their dealings, and that they sue for peace if given the oppurtunity. AFter reading the 4 verses above, do you still have issues with the Quran? The rest of the verses you quoted are along the same vein. I would urge you to read the full verses. If you need more explanation on any specific verse, I'd be happy to provide more details.
  11. I'm moving into a new house. I wanna get a Krishna alone image. But some people say Radha/Krishna image is better. Is there any difference??? will the hare-krishna advice on this thanks.
  12. i don't understand sansricpt only english
  13. I'm confused here, Most hindus says Lord Krishna is just a Avatar of Vishnu. While the Hare Krishna says Krishna is the Superme Lord who directly came down from Krishnaloka. Vishnu and Krishna is the same, But my hare-Krishna friend told me that the avatars of vishnu is false and that Krishna is independent. Can anybody explain on this thanks.
  14. Heres what he replied to me. He says all these, Any opinions on these. """My dear friend, we Muslims are given the freedom to think whatever is best for us. We chose our faith, I agree we have the freedom to think but THINK RATIONALLY. That is where you are lacking, you reason with facts of what you had seen but not facts from our books. Quote me just a verse in the Qur'an where violence is encouraged ?""" """I'm not saying I'm the best Muslim and a good role model but each and every Muslim is required in striving to be the best in character, personality and a role model to the society. Examples of good Muslims; pls read the history of Prophet Muhammad pbuh until the Golden Age of Islam.""" """The accusations you made on the spread of Islam bears no proof and evidence but by assumptions.""" """The time will come when all Muslims of the world will unite and restore the world to eternal peace. """ """About your opinion, that is yours, you can always share them with me but don't force them on me. I respected your ideas, I would not mind any criticism you made on us because I always believe one day you will understand what I had been trying to tell you. """
  15. if God is Al-Mighty, why didn't he changed the course of events rather than confronting the people. Sorry, I'm not trying to be funny or ridiculing you, I just wanted you to see that being God, you need not be a human; you can send messengers. Being Al-Mighty, he can do whatever he pleases. He need not bother emotionally or personally or interact with human. Why must The Al-Mighty forces people to believe His existence by personally showing Himself. Where does faith comes about ? Answer to these questions will be helpful......thanks
  16. if God is Al-Mighty, why didn't he changed the course of events rather than confronting the people. Sorry, I'm not trying to be funny or ridiculing you, I just wanted you to see that being God, you need not be a human; you can send messengers. Being Al-Mighty, he can do whatever he pleases. He need not bother emotionally or personally or interact with human. Why must The Al-Mighty forces people to believe His existence by personally showing Himself. Where does faith comes about ? Answer to these questions will be helpful......thanks
  17. Can anybody help me more, i need more help.........on the questions
  18. Congrats, you've learnt a lot form your readings. One question : if God is Al-Mighty, why didn't he changed the course of events rather than confronting the people. Sorry, I'm not trying to be funny or ridiculing you, I just wanted you to see that being God, you need not be a human; you can send messengers. Being Al-Mighty, he can do whatever he pleases. He need not bother emotionally or personally or interact with human. Why must The Al-Mighty forces people to believe His existence by personally showing Himself. Where does faith comes about ? Any answers for this thank you?? And more questions from him, my muslim friend. Let me ask you few questions personally. Since you had read your Holy Book, these are the questions : (a) Where were you before you were born ? (b) Why were you born in this world and what for ? © If you had stick to a certain faith or idealogy, justify it under what grounds ? (d) Wat is the meaning of life and what is the purpose of life itself ? (e) Why must we die and what will happen after death ? (f) Why can't a person choose to be evil throughout his whole life; who is he answerable to ? (g) Why can't a baby be born unguided ? Why must parents intefere in his developments ? (h) What does he deserve for all the things that he had done and can't just he die and that is the end of the story ? (i) Who will be the panel to judge the deeds of humankind ? Sorry guys i'm not very well versed in The Gita or Vedas can anybody explain on this thank you.
  19. Hey Barney. Krishna and Vishnu is the same person.
  20. The last teacher was Swami Sirla Prabhupada, Who will be next?? any mention in the Scriptures???
  21. But Hitler was a known tyrant. He waged war. The Gita never spoke about waging war against the people. Only when dialoge never materialised Krishna had no choice but war is demanded for the sake for good over evil. Correct me if i'm wrong on this.
  22. I was seening this doucumentry on Unsloved History German Nazi era. It was said that one of Hitler's to Comrade based his works on the Gita. The Bhagavat Gita and The great War was mention in this documentry. Could not understand it as my house was noisey. Can anybody explain if the nazi's have anything to do with the gita
  23. Lord Krishna has Spoken the truth in the Gita. But he also said that All those who Worship the Demi-Gods thinking Krishna's as the Superme also Pleases Krishna. But i Don't think many are Doing this. The Superme have already said that not many of them will think him as a Superme. But Those who worship the Demi-Gods also takes birth at the Planets on the Demi-Gods. My Mother still prays to Sakhti and the lesser-Demigods. I told her once and twice to REad the Gita but she refuse. But then i still respect her beliefs. I urged all Vasinavas and HKrishna to respect other faiths. Hindusim is alive today cos its united.
  24. Sirla Prabhupada said an Avatar must be mention in the Vedas. But Lord Shri Krishna could take birth anytime he wants without himself being named in the Holy Scriptures. Whenever theres a decline in Religion/Moral i take birth to guide man-kind. Lord Krishna said these words. So its up to him where he wants to take birth and when. He dosen't have to follow the vedas on the avatars predictions as he is the superme and he is so powerful. So could Sai Baba be Krishna as he claims. How can a man predict his own future 2020 leaving is body and taking birth again. Vibuthi came out of the PhotoFrame in My house in Malaysia when doing Bhajans. A Sai Baba frame. He is in India and how come it reaches here. He always insisted i am Krishna, i am Rama, I am the father in the Bible and so on. I'm confused on him. Is Sai baba really the Superme.
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